Parallel LANDINGS!!! PRM and SOIA approaches! Explained by CAPTAIN JOE

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    Dear friends and followers, welcome back to my channel and to a great video about, "How can it be that airplanes fly so close to each other and then land on parallel runways?" The procedure/technique I´ll be showing you today are the PRM and SOIA approaches. I admit the are fairly rare and only a few airport around the world have such approaches but they are definitely worth explaining as the videos some passengers have recorded from their seat look pretty daunting.
    A PRM approach is more or less the same as a normal ILS approach, except that the landing runway has an adjacent parallel runway spaced only 3000-4300 feet apart. If you approach such an airport, you would listen to the ATIS beforehand and the ATIS will mention if PRM approaches are in operation. You as a pilot have to have special training within the simulator to be certified to fly such an approach. Then you read the "Attention to all users of PRM approach" chart. There is some key information listed on that chart, briefing you with the differences and facts about the PRM approach.
    The most important item, in my opinion, is the dual VHF requirement. You aircraft has to have two functioning VHF radios. On set number one you dial in the tower frequency and on the second set you monitor/listen to the approach controller, and set the volume level accordingly.
    But see more in the video!
    Thank you very much for your time! I hope you enjoy this basic introduction video about PRM approaches!
    Wishing you all the best!
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  • @KenGrimm1949
    @KenGrimm1949 4 года назад +337

    Great explanation, Joe. I am a software engineer; I helped to design the PRM system. Some interesting notes: The FAA never wanted PRM; it was driven by demand from airports and airlines. At SFO, the airport authority didn't want it, but one airline did want it, so that airline volunteered to pay for the entire installation. It was that airline whose senior pilots invented the SOIA procedure. It turns out that while it is very difficult for most pilots to learn to reliably fly PRM without forcing breakouts, most pilots master the SOIA procedure quickly and easily.

    • @krakenmetzger
      @krakenmetzger 4 года назад +4

      It sounds like the SOIA procedure contains PRM as a sub-procedure, am I wrong?

    • @KenGrimm1949
      @KenGrimm1949 4 года назад +38

      The way terminology evolves is convoluted. "PRM" is the name of the hardware that makes both procedures possible. That name stuck to the first procedure developed with it. SOIA is a different procedure using the same hardware. The computer modeling for both is basically the same, however, the size and shape of the NTZ is different, and the procedure rules are different. This results in SOIA having a lower probability of predicted intersecting flight paths, hence fewer breakout orders, which is why it is easier to learn.

    • @KenGrimm1949
      @KenGrimm1949 4 года назад +3

      @@krakenmetzger see ruclips.net/video/78V66AbPGj4/видео.html

    • @audigex
      @audigex 4 года назад +7

      @captain samuel aviator737 The FAA is concerned first and foremost with safety, not traffic density: therefore anything which reduces separation below the usual horizontal separation is going to cause at least some hesitation... the FAA would rather have fewer flights into the airport, maintaining standard separation requirements

    • @KenGrimm1949
      @KenGrimm1949 4 года назад +1

      @Michael Keller Actually I have begun to make those videos, on several of my other channels. For example, ruclips.net/video/PvPcAhHN23U/видео.html documents my encounter with Osama bin Laden, and in ruclips.net/video/5LDgQP_hahU/видео.html I recall some of the most significant events in my spiritual journey. I haven't gotten to videos about aviation and engineering yet, perhaps someday in "Threescore and Ten" ruclips.net/channel/UCH1MoL058SGnDPgsPcu3fgA

  • @echorogue3113
    @echorogue3113 5 лет назад +1342

    *break out manuever occurs
    RUclipsrs:
    I almost DIED in a PLANE CRASH!!! (Storytime)

    • @holypotat0
      @holypotat0 5 лет назад +152

      Reverse thrust deploys:
      RUclipsrs: OMG MY PLANE'S ENGINE GOT CUT IN HALF

    • @jaymicakes
      @jaymicakes 5 лет назад +61

      Planes- *exist*
      RUclipsrs:
      OH MY GOD I ALMOST DIED *STORY*

    • @MasterCR
      @MasterCR 5 лет назад +7

      @@holypotat0 LOL

    • @froherfinger7456
      @froherfinger7456 5 лет назад +2

      Fake

    • @TheBranbranbrian36
      @TheBranbranbrian36 5 лет назад +35

      (NOT CLICKBAIT)

  • @Bobo-bw1uc
    @Bobo-bw1uc 4 года назад +174

    Flying 750 feet close to each other
    Person: that’s dangerous
    Blue angels: flys 18inch close

    • @dylanlam6745
      @dylanlam6745 4 года назад +5

      Me in GTA V: tries to land stolen hydra on the 747s :)))

    • @audigex
      @audigex 4 года назад +14

      To be fair, a lightly-fuelled F-18 is just a LITTLE more agile than a 747 at MLW...

    • @johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555
      @johnjacobjinglehimerschmid3555 4 года назад +5

      Yeah but the blue angels don't have 100 passengers in that plane with them.

  • @spencercolgan
    @spencercolgan 4 года назад +753

    Captain Joe, why don’t you do a video on your scariest flight.

    • @rawpicsfpv3516
      @rawpicsfpv3516 4 года назад +13

      Good Idea!

    • @dailydaywithgames1192
      @dailydaywithgames1192 4 года назад +89

      You wanna know mine? I was on Ryan air

    • @furkancecen9695
      @furkancecen9695 4 года назад +6

      @@dailydaywithgames1192 LOL

    • @Peanut3169.2
      @Peanut3169.2 4 года назад +6

      @@dailydaywithgames1192 i can top that i was on a train

    • @jasonparry9541
      @jasonparry9541 4 года назад +8

      Mine was on British airways I landed my
      plane and you know them crossed runways one through a nother runways and yeah a Ryan air was ready for take off they went full speed
      cut there speed then ducted there take of went to taxi as possible so we could land and I landed my plane smooth and fine condition

  • @gouravdey2856
    @gouravdey2856 5 лет назад +1000

    I must follow these guidelines while flying in the GTA V

    • @kiasoul4lyfe552
      @kiasoul4lyfe552 5 лет назад +58

      Gourav Dey I tried but a guy in a hydra got mad and blew me up.

    • @gouravdey2856
      @gouravdey2856 5 лет назад +23

      Okay bro, then you should ask Captain Joe how to beat a Hydra !

    • @yasinomidi7525
      @yasinomidi7525 5 лет назад +35

      @@kiasoul4lyfe552 i got rekt by a flying motorbike.

    • @aquaticllamas28
      @aquaticllamas28 5 лет назад +4

      Gourav Dey You can if you do an Airport RP. I have a group that does it.

    • @kleinfeicht
      @kleinfeicht 5 лет назад +2

      @@kiasoul4lyfe552 you mean a KD warrior
      Most times noobs

  • @coreyhamura3092
    @coreyhamura3092 5 лет назад +549

    Hey Captain Joe, Ive only experienced this approach once. At the San Francisco Airport I was a passenger on the LDA Approach and I was sitting on the left side of the plane. It was such an exhilarating moment. The pilot let us know what was happening and you could hear the excitement in his voice. Best landing Experience I’ve ever had

    • @NovemberAJacks
      @NovemberAJacks 5 лет назад +1

      if you were not a passenger what were you

    • @powxll7633
      @powxll7633 5 лет назад +5

      November A.Jacks pilot maybe?

    • @powxll7633
      @powxll7633 5 лет назад +6

      November A.Jacks cabin crew. Idk

    • @intyente9824
      @intyente9824 5 лет назад +22

      November A.Jacks learn to read

    • @NovemberAJacks
      @NovemberAJacks 5 лет назад

      @@powxll7633 hmmm maybe

  • @billnelson3732
    @billnelson3732 4 года назад +3

    Fantastic video! I'm a retired controller from SFO, at the 8:00 point on the video, the breakout is actually a Boeing 737 being pulled off the approach to runway 28L. We never allowed heavy aircraft to fly the approach using side-bys (ie, Heavy Boeing 747 along side of a Heavy Boeing 767 etc). What has happened in the video is the Cathay "heavy" (Boeing 747) was overtaking a "large" (B-737) which is not allowed in wake turbulence separation rules. The safest thing to do when the 747 advises they cannot stay behind the 737 and will pass it, is to cancel the 737's approach clearance and bring them back for another try. We typically avoided pulling the widebody off the approach due to the fact they'll create additional wake turbulence issues and have typically already flown for 10-12 hours - we'd like to get them on the ground. Earlier in the video you'll see the Boeing 777 rolling out on 28R overtaking the regional jet on 28L... that's about as close at its ever allowed without someone being taken off the approach. Great video production, really enjoyed it!

  • @orbitalpotato9940
    @orbitalpotato9940 5 лет назад +356

    Olympics new event announced:
    *Synchronized landing*

    • @HE4Tgames
      @HE4Tgames 4 года назад +10

      And Ireland -- a team of RyanAir pilots -- come last!

    • @adamp.3739
      @adamp.3739 4 года назад +2

      That'll be interesting, honestly

    • @jann326
      @jann326 4 года назад +3

      I would definitely watch that

    • @Atleast37ninjas
      @Atleast37ninjas 3 года назад

      Well we just need the red arrows and we are fine

  • @krokodil191
    @krokodil191 5 лет назад +1600

    I did experience brake up procedure...with my ex wife...

  • @HFamilyDad
    @HFamilyDad 5 лет назад +158

    I'm 51 and have been into aircraft all my life but never heard of this - thank you so much, you're never too old to learn something new!

  • @adamant59
    @adamant59 4 года назад +73

    I am a current ATC at Northern California TRACON and I actually work SFO arrivals. SOIA approaches are run less than 1% of the year at SFO. In the video with the 747 going around you are watching "Side By visuals" that are done in VMC conditions. The reason that the 747 is going around is because heavy jets cannot overtake other aircraft during these operations. All heavy jets are required to be on the ILS PRM to runway 28L during SOIA procedures as wake turbulence does not exist until the visual segment when it is then the pilot's responsibility to provide their own wake turbulence mitigation. If you have any other questions please let me know.

    • @JostVanWair
      @JostVanWair 4 года назад +1

      Lol ok, so, why do rear mounted twinjets, like the MD-80, and first gen 737s with the JT8Ds have literal folding thrust reversers? (they fold upwards out of the engine)

    • @adamant59
      @adamant59 4 года назад +5

      I was referring to any other Air Traffic questions. I am not an expert on engine design.

    • @JostVanWair
      @JostVanWair 4 года назад +1

      @@adamant59 sry

    • @nikosmanganiotis3519
      @nikosmanganiotis3519 4 года назад +1

      Are PRM procedures run most of the year or are regular ILS approaches?

    • @WIRRUZZZ
      @WIRRUZZZ 4 года назад +2

      @@JostVanWair To reverse thrust, you obviously need to change the direction of the gas coming out of the engine. For a turbojet or low bypass turbofan you cannot use reversers that just redirect the bypass air, as is done in high bypass engines, as that would (probably) leave you with a net forward thrust. To achive this, you need to place something behind the engines.
      The Bombardier CRJs have tail mounted high bypass turbofans and use cascade reversers.
      Some discussion here: www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=733649

  • @pelleschwarzberg8848
    @pelleschwarzberg8848 5 лет назад +135

    I was flying from Schiphol to Rome and I had a PRM approach. I saw that the A320 next to us was coming really close and seconds later we had a brake up procedure!

    • @gobah
      @gobah 4 года назад +8

      Break up procedure? Is that where you break up with your girlfriend when you think you're about to die?

    • @jamesburleson1916
      @jamesburleson1916 4 года назад +12

      @@gobah no, it's when you correctly follow the breakup checklist at the behest of relationship traffic control, and successfully abort to a single status holding pattern

    • @gobah
      @gobah 4 года назад +2

      @@jamesburleson1916 lmfaoo I can't believe this is a real conversation 😂

    • @audigex
      @audigex 4 года назад

      Umm, this is awkward: because Rome don't use PRM approaches... only 5 airports in the world use PRM approaches, and the only airport outside the US that does is Sydney, Australia. (San Francisco, Detroit, Atlanta, and Chicago being the other 4).
      Rome does have parallel approaches, but you just had a good old fashioned loss of separation, not a PRM approach and breakout.

    • @KenGrimm1949
      @KenGrimm1949 4 года назад +1

      @@audigex That list is not quite complete; in addition to my involvement with the San Francisco SOIA/PRM, I participated in the design and initial testing of the first two PRM systems, which were at Raleigh-Durham and Minneapolis, and the first PRM outside of the USA, at Hong Kong's then-new Chek Lap Kok airport.

  • @TheCreditShifu
    @TheCreditShifu 5 лет назад +84

    Cool info. But it is scary knowing how complicated and possibly risky it is, would prefer to sit in my seat as a passenger in ignorance!

    • @TheCreditShifu
      @TheCreditShifu 3 года назад +1

      @@ericolens3 haha yeah you’re right, maybe I should unsubscribe

    • @MBS.SA6
      @MBS.SA6 3 года назад +2

      Its not that risky actually, in a bad weather especially cross wind the PRM is not operational.

  • @typografiti
    @typografiti 5 лет назад +83

    Hi Captain Joe, I'm not a pilot, but I am an aviation enthusiast. I love the way you speak and explain stuff. Watched all of your videos. Keep up the great work 👍

  • @kingjamesg357
    @kingjamesg357 4 года назад +153

    Something tells me that Captain Joe might have had more than one girlfriend. At the same time

    • @liamorourke7613
      @liamorourke7613 4 года назад +21

      It's easy when your a pilot, one in San Francisco and one is Sydney 😉 perfect excuse to be away for days at a time due to work requirements 😂

    • @kingjamesg357
      @kingjamesg357 4 года назад +8

      @Michael Keller wow seems like somebody doesn't have a sense of humor

    • @kingjamesg357
      @kingjamesg357 4 года назад +5

      @Michael Keller wow seems like you doesn't follow his videos because and a lot of his videos he mentioned other women in other states

    • @thabangmonnakgotla
      @thabangmonnakgotla 4 года назад +2

      that's exactly what I thought 😂

    • @hayabusa1556
      @hayabusa1556 3 года назад +1

      Ya his girlfriend is dutch pilot girl

  • @joek5882
    @joek5882 5 лет назад +6

    SFO...my "Home Field" and I experience it all the time when coming home. It never gets old!

  • @yannickgeudens5192
    @yannickgeudens5192 5 лет назад +249

    Hi Joe, great video again. Can you
    make a video about cargo pilot VS passenger pilot or long haul pilot VS short and mid rage.

    • @mytech6779
      @mytech6779 5 лет назад +34

      Freight flys at night and has substantially less passenger complaints.

    • @thischannelisdead4808
      @thischannelisdead4808 5 лет назад +1

      Yannick Geudens yesssssss! Good idea!

    • @Jet2Guy
      @Jet2Guy 5 лет назад +3

      Yes please!!

    • @SkynetDrone12
      @SkynetDrone12 5 лет назад +1

      Yes please do this subject!

    • @xy-pl7gg
      @xy-pl7gg 5 лет назад

      freight pilots can make more money than compared with non legacy carrier passenger ops.

  • @annasstorybox7906
    @annasstorybox7906 5 лет назад +76

    Passengers: OMG this is so close!
    Fighter pilot about to do mid-air refuling: Hold my near beer

    • @audigex
      @audigex 4 года назад +1

      A fighter (particularly a fighter with a low fuel load) is just a little bit more agile than a widebody...

    • @ObamaoZedong
      @ObamaoZedong 3 года назад +4

      Blue Angels flying in diamond formation: hold my non-alcoholic hydration formula

    • @opwave79
      @opwave79 3 года назад +2

      I was a military brat and I’ve seen F-16s refueling mid flight from inside a C-135. I was 12 at the time and waved to the fighter pilot, who waved back. Coolest memory of my life.

  • @jordank1404
    @jordank1404 5 лет назад +64

    I'm super late, but my local airport (5 minutes from my house) KMSP has been doing PRM approaches since 1997!

    • @danieldevadas6481
      @danieldevadas6481 4 года назад +1

      I'm also late, but did KMSP discontinue PRM? I didn't see any info about that on AirNav.

    • @zvj
      @zvj 4 года назад +1

      I live 15 mins away from KMSP

    • @midwestsirens
      @midwestsirens 4 года назад +1

      I live in Savage! I go spotting at MSP all the time

    • @midwestsirens
      @midwestsirens 4 года назад +1

      @@zvj I live in Savage and go spotting at MSP often

    • @KenGrimm1949
      @KenGrimm1949 4 года назад

      In reply to Daniel Devadas, I would says "Quite likely, yes"; the local FAA office in Minneapolis always hated PRM, and tried their best to get it de-certified when we first installed it. The kept blaming other system faults, such as FRUIT from an out-of-calibration radio on a general aviation aircraft at the hanger, on the new PRM system.

  • @triple7marc
    @triple7marc 3 года назад +2

    I’ve flown into SFO countless times!! It’s so cool how you’re flying over the San Francisco Bay just seconds before landing.

  • @MehulP30
    @MehulP30 5 лет назад +150

    Hope all is going well with your switch to Boeing!

    • @airwipe1639
      @airwipe1639 5 лет назад +8

      Mehul Patel why wouldn’t it be! #BoeingMasterRace

  • @BrianJOlds
    @BrianJOlds 5 лет назад +9

    Captain Joe is a true pilot at his core. It's cool to see how excited he got about his SOIA approach experience 😊

  • @mcthyyab
    @mcthyyab 5 лет назад +2

    I’m from San Francisco. I see this all the time I land in SFO it’s so great to watch. Hope I land as a pilot in SFO one day. Love your videos. You keep me motivated thank you for all the lessons.

  • @molly_1250
    @molly_1250 5 лет назад +32

    We coming in land in Sydney on a Qantas flight when an some American plane came into the no transgression zone and we had to do a breakout (it was a PRM approach)

  • @binorobin
    @binorobin 5 лет назад +30

    3:06 I thought he's going to say "If you get into the transgression zone, you will be shot down". 😂😂
    Well this is a joke, please don't take it seriously. 🙏

  • @rocketdyneF1
    @rocketdyneF1 5 лет назад +4

    The more I watch these videos the more respect I have for airline pilots.

    • @gregoryjunker3914
      @gregoryjunker3914 5 лет назад +2

      And controllers. Pilots only have to deal with their aircraft and those near them, and see-and-avoid is always in effect (assuming VMC). Controllers have to deal with dozens at a time (including coordinating handoffs between sectors), especially in an airspace as dense as the SFO bravo. There are also two very busy Class C airports under the bravo, as well as numerous Class D. It's really impressive and amazing that there as few incidents (and potential incidents) as there are in that space. The only other airspace I've had experience with, that comes close to the complexity of the SFO Class B is the LA basin (I've not flown on the east coast, I'm sure that NYC area and the DC metro are nightmares to navigate and control).

  • @joe2mercs
    @joe2mercs 5 лет назад +2

    Years ago I flew into LAX from the East and I was captivated by the view of square after square of residential housing stretching to the horizon. After counting swimming pools for about ten minutes I looked up and just off the left wing there was another jet. It was a surreal experience, like a scene from a science fiction movie, two jets in the afternoon sun flying in close formation over an infinite city.

  • @KCFlyer2
    @KCFlyer2 5 лет назад +16

    Glad I watched to the end...seeing the planes at 0:40, I was wondering about wake turbulence. Explained at the end. Love your videos and subscribed.

  • @Aurril
    @Aurril 5 лет назад +4

    Just wow, I didn't even know that there is something like this. You enlightened and made my day! Thanks for this great video.

  • @pjdhunt
    @pjdhunt 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks for the explanation. As a passenger coming in to SFO I had one of these. However the pattern was weird. On downwind instead of turning left on to base near san mateo bridge we turned right out to sea(westward). We then did a broad circle around to the left and were joined by what looked like a jet fighter on the right as we did what turned out to be a wide, circular base leg. Eventually both planes did the approach you described. On landing I noticed the other plane was a nasa plane. I trained as a glider pilot and am used to formation flying(while soaring). Seeing a dual landing was new to me. Thanks for the explanation!

  • @monkeman966
    @monkeman966 5 лет назад +2

    Captain Joe... I just want to say thank you. Because of this glorious channel I discovered to become an airline pilot. I thought about this before a couple times but then I said to myself that it's not what I want to do.
    BUT
    When I discovered this channel I thought about the whole thing. Now I see: It is just wonderful to fly and to sit in the cockpit while flying a whole plane! I think this will be my dream job.
    Thank you for this channel and your videos.
    Good luck and keep going!
    Greetings from Germany

    • @monkeman966
      @monkeman966 5 лет назад +1

      Lol mir ist gerade aufgefallen, dass er ja auch deutsch spricht 😁

  • @zimasandibi6176
    @zimasandibi6176 5 лет назад

    Im a school teacher in village in south africa. Captain Joe i dont understand why I'm watching these videos but for some reason I've been glued to your channel for over an hour

  • @windowssonic5953
    @windowssonic5953 5 лет назад +5

    My first flight EVER ended in Dallas, we dropped ~200 feet in turbulence. The VERY NEXT FLIGHT we had a parallel landing at Phoenix with a Southwest 7(3/6)7. Give me the chances.

    • @brandoncaldwell95
      @brandoncaldwell95 5 лет назад +1

      Ya, i hate Dallas Love Field. Worst design. I swear between the wait, trams, and taxi we could have drove home. Take off made us taxi clear across the airport to take off.

  • @samerhaddad280
    @samerhaddad280 5 лет назад +6

    one of your most interesting videos yet captain joe!

  • @kierann9986
    @kierann9986 3 года назад

    I love it, how his answers can be like 10 words long but no, it’s like 10 mins! I love you vids. 🙂

  • @mrvelocity9613
    @mrvelocity9613 3 года назад +2

    This explains why I always saw another plane on our left at landing (I live in the San Fransico Bay Area).

  • @panagiotiskouk6965
    @panagiotiskouk6965 5 лет назад +5

    The intro with that WOO that was funny great video Joe well done!!!

  • @robertslydell6990
    @robertslydell6990 5 лет назад +144

    LOL at the old/new girlfriend comparison. I guess I'm easily entertained in my old age.

  • @endeavor8
    @endeavor8 5 лет назад +2

    Being SFO based, i experienced parallel landing multiple times and its always fun and exciting each time. I never knew it was a SOIA approach until today. Thanks for the explanation. Hope you had the opportunity to fly into SFO.

  • @jupiter3067
    @jupiter3067 5 лет назад

    What a sympatic and smart captain !

  • @lukasz.szyper
    @lukasz.szyper 5 лет назад +6

    The breakout described around 8:05 comes from what You described before. Since the plane on LDA approach has to have the preceding on ILS in sight all the time after the LDA point, they are not allowed to overtake them. When they are about to, a breakout is necessary.

  • @maxon1672
    @maxon1672 5 лет назад +5

    This is one of your coolest videos yet! I’ll have to watch for this next time I fly commercial into SFO

  • @dc5723
    @dc5723 5 лет назад +1

    I've experienced a breakout approach at San Francisco Intl Airport (KSFO) where we were approaching 28L in a United 767 and a Asiana 777 encroached into the No Transgression zone and we broke out of the approach, circled the bay area and landed safely this time on 28R. Thanks for the video!

  • @ritvikvaishnav3472
    @ritvikvaishnav3472 5 лет назад

    we love you joe!! keep doing what you are doing!!

  • @hikarusugiyama4460
    @hikarusugiyama4460 4 года назад +41

    Captain Joe: woo thats 2 planes flying way too close to eachother
    Blue angles: am i a joke to you?

  • @mabsalom1
    @mabsalom1 5 лет назад +4

    Great video and, as usual, wonderfully concise.
    The more I learn, the more I realise just how much I don't know. (paraphrasing Einstein here).

  • @michaelconradt8575
    @michaelconradt8575 2 года назад

    I experienced a breakout on a Lufthansa A340 flight to SFO once. It was a really awesome experience to feel how much power there is in the plane when needed. And it's really awesome to understand the details of that maneuver now, as the pilot only explained that another plane was flying too slow and we would have gotten too close. Thanks for the great explanation!

  • @easymac79
    @easymac79 5 лет назад +2

    5:40 A TCAS alert during a break-out maneuver, oh man, that would be scary, to say the least.
    -In crowded airport airspace.

  • @TheMissendenFlyer
    @TheMissendenFlyer 5 лет назад +16

    Fascinating Captain....think I'll stick to VFR in my PA28!

  • @rohittved
    @rohittved 5 лет назад +10

    Just DutchPilotGirl uploaded her video & now you uploaded 😁❤️ BTW I love both.

  • @SierraGolfNiner
    @SierraGolfNiner 5 лет назад +1

    Live in the SF region and am savvy enough to understand safe separation distances, etc etc. That being said I always wondered about the SUPER close approaches at SFO. So this was super fascinating to learn and explains so much, especially why the right hand aircraft always seems to be the one slightly behind.

  • @kenansamedov
    @kenansamedov 4 года назад +4

    Parallel landing I have seen in Frankfurt am Main (FRA) airport.
    Just amazing scene!!!
    Thanks for explanation!

  • @thomaslown4353
    @thomaslown4353 5 лет назад +21

    When will you show us a “day in a life”

  • @shaunpierce4174
    @shaunpierce4174 5 лет назад +9

    I love the girlfriend analogy, I bet you never had this situation with Michelle :)

  • @azmike1956
    @azmike1956 4 года назад

    More good stuff Joe! Thanks!
    I was returning from John Wayne/Orange County to PHX & saw another 737 turning to pick up the north runway as we were going for the south runway. (approaching from the west)
    It's amazing how close we were to the other approaching flight. We had heavy crosswinds & I thought to myself that we'll be ok but not without undue stress.
    I was so wrong! Our America West pilot touched down as he corrected for the crosswind as he made contact. So perfect!
    Some history: I worked on/ OH'd APU's for America West, Southwest, Frontier, Air Cal, US Air, Piedmont, Wien Air Alaska, USN, Braniff, USAF, Project Orbis & so many others. I also performed on wing engine checks & hydraulic repairs & troubleshooting for UPS, FEDEX, Casino Air, CF & Capital.
    Such a rich & fulfilling career & this doesn't include my work for the D.O.D. (USMC)
    I just wanted to say that even working in a support position for an MRO shop, you can help ensure a high quality flight product & safety measure for the flying public.
    Support our troops!🇺🇸😉👍
    Please help support Project Orbis so that they can continue to prevent undue blindness! Check out their website to understand their mission & success rate!
    They, like our military, do an amazing job that no-one hears about.
    Thanks for letting me ramble.

  • @johno9507
    @johno9507 4 года назад +1

    4:08 Oscar Juliet Alpha or VH-OJA Was Qantas's first 747-400 and set the record by flying from London to Sydney non stop in 1989, and a aircraft that I've worked on many times.
    Great to see my home city of Sydney used here.

  • @maximeluprano2331
    @maximeluprano2331 5 лет назад +10

    Beautiful video, can you make a video about a fraighter pilot career pls? All the best one of your folowers

  • @trishaadsharma8563
    @trishaadsharma8563 5 лет назад +12

    Love from india sir.....u r true fan...thanks to u for all the concepts that u made clear..love to watch u

    • @maanyavgangaraj8624
      @maanyavgangaraj8624 5 лет назад +1

      Surya Deepak as an Indian you should be ashamed of yourself. Don’t ever say that

    • @generalrodcocker1018
      @generalrodcocker1018 5 лет назад

      heheh, and scamming everybody, including indians

  • @samiahmad8333
    @samiahmad8333 5 лет назад +1

    Love your videos Cap! Thanks for sharing this cool information

  • @EinjelNoelTena
    @EinjelNoelTena 5 лет назад

    This one is my favorite. Thanks captain joe

  • @thatmofuka556
    @thatmofuka556 5 лет назад +7

    Every since I saw an airplane then heard that it was a job It’s now my dream job

  • @MrManultra
    @MrManultra 5 лет назад +113

    Dad, are we going to crash in that plane ?
    Don't worry boy, the pilot is having fun
    Never thought these things are actually fun for the pilots :D

    • @Jet-Pack
      @Jet-Pack 5 лет назад +12

      It's like flying in formation. Every pilot I know loves that.

    • @waynekerr966
      @waynekerr966 5 лет назад +1

      Every pilot loves formation

    • @worldcomander
      @worldcomander 5 лет назад

      Pilots lobe what they do the harder the approach is the more fun it is. For example most east coast pilots love DCA river visual approach because they have to actually fly and because it’s tricky

  • @faisalabdulghafoor4349
    @faisalabdulghafoor4349 5 лет назад

    Got my confusion cleared on Wake Turbulence on LDA Point. Thanks and appreciate that.

  • @annemcquade7185
    @annemcquade7185 2 года назад

    Thank you Captain Joe!
    😘

  • @samu_cornia9991
    @samu_cornia9991 5 лет назад +8

    0:05 this can became a meme

  • @LongHaulPilot
    @LongHaulPilot 5 лет назад +3

    When I fly Infinite Flight I click the waypoint closest to the runway, or the runway waypoint, makes it much easier

  • @kashemalam
    @kashemalam 5 лет назад

    Thank you Captain Joe for this and other amazing videos.

  • @albert3801
    @albert3801 5 лет назад

    Having just seen a PRM landing at YSSY Sydney Australia this video came out just in time and answered all my questions.

  • @jays9572
    @jays9572 5 лет назад +4

    I love outside SFO and it’s always stressful when they’re so close 💀

  • @konraarthursson7217
    @konraarthursson7217 5 лет назад +3

    WOOOOO Sydney Airport; thats my hub y'all!!!!

  • @chintuxsaif
    @chintuxsaif 4 года назад

    You're the real pilot we want.
    thanks

  • @D0539
    @D0539 5 лет назад

    Great video! Being based in Melbourne I often fly into Sydney for work and have been a passenger on lots of PRM approaches. The departures are also usually quite fun by the way.
    Same for KSFO, been on the Qantas 747 lots of times coming in on runway 28. The parallel departures on runways 01R and 01L at KSFO are also super fun.

  • @yannis7815
    @yannis7815 5 лет назад +3

    Do a video on : if electronics really interfere with cockpit instruments and if you really have to turn airplane mode ON. Great vid btw :)

  • @playerinuse0
    @playerinuse0 4 года назад +9

    That actually that happen to me when I was landing in JFK 2 same planes parallel landed and I was in it

  • @kassemkhalil826
    @kassemkhalil826 5 лет назад

    You’re explanations are extremely useful thanks cap👍👍👍

  • @ulrichstraehle8129
    @ulrichstraehle8129 4 года назад

    Your Videos are so Interest and Professional made , I appreciate it very much .
    Even with my pidgin English understand you 95 percent , thanks again , Captain JOE

  • @soremakes645
    @soremakes645 5 лет назад +4

    I would love to get you as my instructor Joe!

  • @ChristopherBourke
    @ChristopherBourke 5 лет назад +3

    0:04 for the best "Wooh!" you'll ever hear.

  • @johnnykaercher5358
    @johnnykaercher5358 5 лет назад

    That was really awesome Joe! I have always been aware of tandem approaches but did not know the details of what they entailed! Great info as always...

  • @kelisep_1547
    @kelisep_1547 4 года назад +2

    When I was leaving sfo (San Francisco) there were two planes that looked exactly like 0:46. I saw it two times!! The size comparison of different planes are very cool.

  • @lauriuusi-illikainen8245
    @lauriuusi-illikainen8245 5 лет назад +8

    In finland Tikkakoski where i live there is Flying shows and they fly with Hornets only 2meters away from each other hornet thats Crazy i have seen that shiet happen live

  • @Nilguiri
    @Nilguiri 5 лет назад +42

    Hopefully when giving the breakout alert, the ATC don't get their left and right mixed up!

    • @ashishpradhan636
      @ashishpradhan636 5 лет назад +2

      Nilguiri they cant... they know there shit coz theyve been doin it for years

    • @ralfbaechle
      @ralfbaechle 5 лет назад +6

      ATC are just humans. Maybe not exactly about left and right but not far from KSFO, not a mile east from the Golden Gate Bridge a controller once repeatedly warned me about traffic but for my life of it I couldn't spot it. After minutes the controller then said "ooops, it's from the other direction" ... Welcome to Norcal Approach :)
      That said, up to that point ATC was very friendly and competent, allowed me to cross the KSFO class B airspace while a jet started its takeoff run right below me on RWY 01R, pushed me even further down north of KSFO so I could basically watch people in the Transamerica building from the side before a quick 1 minute visit to Alcatraz
      You know the difference between a controller and a pilot?
      There is none.
      Pilot makes a mistake - pilot dead.
      Controller makes a mistake - pilot dead.
      ;-)

    • @snow86241
      @snow86241 5 лет назад +7

      No not that left! The other left!!! XD

    • @daveg1701
      @daveg1701 5 лет назад

      Ralf Baechle l

    • @generalrodcocker1018
      @generalrodcocker1018 5 лет назад +3

      i think the pilots would intervene and ignore a false advise. left rwy -> left breakout, right -> right.

  • @crimsonknight5575
    @crimsonknight5575 5 лет назад

    Thank you Captain Joe; you know how to simplify things.

  • @pervert_patel
    @pervert_patel 4 года назад

    I don't know why I started watching your videos, Joe. But have been watching for three years! I have nothing to do with aviation either. But I enjoy learning about it, which I discovered after I started watching your videos!
    Just by luck, I might run into you in München. 🤞

  • @pryxisjr3536
    @pryxisjr3536 4 года назад +7

    I’ve seen a LOT of those in area 51

  • @sgt.megashi4984
    @sgt.megashi4984 5 лет назад +15

    You should vlog live inside a cockpit boeing 747

    • @chuun2784
      @chuun2784 5 лет назад +4

      i think they are not allowed

  • @Gryflir
    @Gryflir 5 лет назад +1

    Looks like an awesome experience for pilots.

  • @aflyingchapati4395
    @aflyingchapati4395 5 лет назад

    I was wondering about these approaches and you answered my question thank you

  • @rahultiwari7325
    @rahultiwari7325 5 лет назад +135

    Joe tell us YOUR FAVOURITE AIRPORTS AND WHY .......=??? We wait for it😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

  • @MCPilot1201
    @MCPilot1201 5 лет назад +31

    Did the audio go static about a minute in for anyone else?

    • @johannereago935
      @johannereago935 5 лет назад +5

      Oh good, I thought it was just me so I came looking for other comments about this

    • @k30ngamer28
      @k30ngamer28 5 лет назад +1

      Yea for me too

    • @flywithcaptainjoe
      @flywithcaptainjoe  5 лет назад +15

      Yes, my mircophone battery was low and I didn´t realize it. Sorry for that :(

    • @MCPilot1201
      @MCPilot1201 5 лет назад

      OMG first time a RUclipsr has done anything to my comment!

    • @ianbarker3710
      @ianbarker3710 5 лет назад

      I also he.....insi….bre….to......74......insid….five...papa delt…. What.

  • @xy-pl7gg
    @xy-pl7gg 5 лет назад

    Capt. Joe, really like your videos. Great for pilots and non pilots alike.

  • @mervynmorel4419
    @mervynmorel4419 5 лет назад

    Wow, captain Joe, you are just amazing man. I love watching your video. Keep it coming, man.

  • @Foxychik40
    @Foxychik40 5 лет назад +3

    OyOyOy Cast Iron Cojones needed for that SOIA approach?! :O

  • @christainmarks106
    @christainmarks106 5 лет назад +23

    Cap😮. Would that make the TCAS go off in the approaching planes? Would u have to turn it off?

    • @pranzgamingxd6781
      @pranzgamingxd6781 5 лет назад +2

      Maybe you switch it over to standby. I didn't hear the TCAS go off in the high alert video.

    • @MyraArcadia
      @MyraArcadia 5 лет назад +2

      @@pranzgamingxd6781 if u switch it off, then atc wont get detailed data

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 5 лет назад +1

      If TCAS goes off, you follow the divert instructions. You don't turn TCAS off.

    • @seraphina985
      @seraphina985 5 лет назад +5

      No because TCAS isn't only based on proximity, TCAS is designed to resolve conflicts for one purpose only and that is to avoid collisions. As such the only conflicts it will issue an RA for are those where the plane is both close enough and also is actually on a predicted collision path since parallel lines do not intersect by definition TCAS is not concerned by a plane on a parallel course. Not sure how it works with the other kind as the two paths are not parallel but I would guess that it has something to do with the fact that with both planes descending the expected collision point would actually be at a negative altitude and thus it assumes that you are landing before that, TCAS is built to avoid mid air collisions not ground collisions so that would rather make sense if altitudes bellow some minimum value are outside it's scope.

    • @christainmarks106
      @christainmarks106 5 лет назад

      @@seraphina985 but whether it's above or below or across... That's still proximity... Right... I mean I'm asking🤷....lol

  • @SPXNO
    @SPXNO 5 лет назад

    Really exciting your explanation. I never heard sth. about these procedures. Thks a lot !

  • @skycrew867
    @skycrew867 5 лет назад

    Thx Captain....another awesome video!!

  • @speakintothemic3891
    @speakintothemic3891 5 лет назад +9

    Soya approaches at ksfo are easier if you land on the taxiway (if you know what i mean)

    • @ToBeDahlia
      @ToBeDahlia 5 лет назад +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ralfbaechle
      @ralfbaechle 5 лет назад +1

      Only TOFU airways flies soya approaches.

    • @tjhess2
      @tjhess2 5 лет назад

      Only if you're an Air Canada pilot.

  • @retrograde7156
    @retrograde7156 5 лет назад +39

    You know just before I got the notification for this video I just finished watching a wendover production video around this topic. Coincidence I think not!
    *Edit: My apology the video was made by Real Engineering, I just had a watching spree of both channels

    • @abdoulsene2793
      @abdoulsene2793 5 лет назад +3

      Wait wendover posted a new vid❤❤❤

    • @eysank
      @eysank 5 лет назад

      Wendover is bae

    • @sirBrouwer
      @sirBrouwer 5 лет назад +2

      @@abdoulsene2793 yes and no. He posted a video on his Half as intresting chanel (about cheating in LasVegas)

    • @jhdiscgolfer
      @jhdiscgolfer 5 лет назад +1

      Wendover is love, Wendover is life

    • @AliAhmed-ez2zy
      @AliAhmed-ez2zy 5 лет назад +1

      Real Engineering posted a video about runways a couple of days ago on this topic. I recommend you guys watch it! ruclips.net/video/5QZ3eozyQfU/видео.html

  • @jerrymullen9661
    @jerrymullen9661 5 лет назад

    Great explanation. I work on the peninsula and drive the 101 and makes perfect sense for SFO.

  • @michaelcrossley5661
    @michaelcrossley5661 4 года назад

    I’ve flown into San Francisco and the pilot got on and announced the SOIA approach so we wouldn’t freak out. I hangout on the peninsula a lot and spot them all the time now. I’ve always wondered about wake turbulence though. Good video!