I am in Chiropractic school right now. I absolutely love gaming and one of my passions is helping people live a healthier lifestyle. I appreciate you making this video because people need to be aware of what is happening to their body on a daily basis.
That is great that you are either knowingly or unknowingly deceiving people into thinking Chiropractic does anything to help people, other than the placebo effect and therapeutic massage.
@@danielwood6743 It is way more helpful than reactive healthcare such as drugs and surgery which is all that the US healthcare system offers, zero preventative because there is no financial incentive. My spine would be drastically different had I had a chiropractor back in the late 80s and early 90s while my spine was developing.
I stand during my livestreams, and my viewers think I’m stupid and say I should rather sit. But I find that standing gives you better engagement with viewers since you can move around a bit more easily.
Careful putting too much stress on your feet tho. I’m assuming you use a fatigue mat of some sort to stand on? If not you should invest in one cause standing for long periods of time is stressful for your feet.
Im an ergonomist/occupational therapist and I have seen and treated the kinds of injuries prolonged incorrect computer use can cause. This video was clear and extremely informative. I will be sharing it to patients who are having a hard time understanding the extent of injury to which lack of ergonomics can lead to. Thanks for this!!
Thanks so much for this mate. Absolutely critical advice that I'm taking to heart. I started noticing discomfort when I'm playing. Sometimes during long grinds I'd just play through the pain and then take a break a long time later. Those bad habits will lead to serious health problems later. I've learned a lot from these tips, and something that I hope other gamers will really benefit from.
Wow, I had heard about the eye level needing to reach the top of the screen but never thought much of it, I just chucked a few books under my screen and immediately felt my neck relax. Thanks!
Appreciate this dude, started getting hand cramps recently so I've thought twice about my posture. Went ahead and bought an ergonomic desk as well as I feel height adjustment is a must for me.
Great video bro, it'll help a lot of people. A few years ago I bought a cheap gaming chair from Amazon for $100 because I wanted a cool looking chair, but I also didn't want to spend like over $300 for a legit gaming chair. After using it for a while, I found myself with a lot of back problems and needing to crack my back constantly and whatnot and it wasn't great. Eventually I bought a chair from IKEA like he showed and it's soooo much better. My back feels so much better and I don't have any back pain or problems anymore. So to people out there I would suggest buying an office chair from IKEA if you can't afford to buy an expensive gaming chair.
The biggest factor other than $$$ in switching from console to PC gaming has been the ergonomics, which killed the experience for me in my past attempts to play things like an FPS with KB+M. I really appreciate this video and your intentions and content within it. The one *major* thing I have to question is your comments about wrist position on the mouse and keyboard. You go over three positions for holding the mouse and state that "the claw and fingertip grip do use more muscles and therefore have a slightly higher risk for injury." Every methodology of bodywork I've encountered states the opposite conclusion of this if->then statement. The optimal position for typing and gripping a mouse is with a straight line from the forearm all the way to the first knuckles, hence wristpads for keyboards and mousepads to encourage this. Any upward bend of the wrist/hand from the forearm is what puts a significantly higher chance of longterm breakdown on these vital body parts. ... Whether this comment benefits anyone, I can't know. But I will be continuing my search for a better ergonomic setup for my PC gaming that encourages *active engagement* of muscles that support their surrounding bone and ligament structures' well-being. ;tldr Engaging more muscles that we as animals naturally evolved to use *prolongs and supports* the unnatural positions of sitting at a computer for hours on end. Microadjustments of positioning are everything! I wish this video had expressed this better, but I appreciate it nonetheless.
I'm a gamer, but also work from my home office, so I can often be in my chair for 12-16 hours a day. While "gaming chairs" are extremely popular, I think many gamers aren't researching options that are common in the professional market, which can be even more beneficial for posture and injury prevention, and are often far more comfortable. For the price of a new Noblechair for instance, you can find a second-hand Humanscale Freedom Chair, or a Herman Miller Aeron. Or for a bit more my favorite chair, the Herman Miller Embody, will last many, many years and is one of the most functional chairs I've ever used.
Or a Brand New Autonomous ErgoChair 2 it's really nice, where I live a used Aeron is still $800 dollars, a d brand new one (here in Mexico) is $1400, the base model
I'd say stay away from gaming chairs the design was meant for a car while something like a herman miller Aeron is designed for computer use and designed by those who know ergonomics vs someone who slapped a car seat on some legs.
elitemav racing seats are mad for you to sit in for hours on end without hurting the body. Why shouldn’t it work as a desk chair which we will also be sitting in for hours?
@@Coltontutt they really aren't, they are made for driving to be easier, so they make it easier to reach the pedals and the steering wheel. Have you never sat on a car for 3 hours Straight, it's uncomfortable AF
@@daarksideyt *FINALLY!* Here's someone that gets the point. While racing chairs look cool, they do not belong in an indoor setting. Certainly not in an office or other places where you spend 8+ hours sitting every day. It's nothing more than a marketing gimmick and the people that advertise these chairs are doing so with no regard for their fans long-term health. They only do it for the money.
TriHard Well maybe in your car ut gets uncomfortable after 3hours+ my 2018 BMW M3 got Like racing seats. They are ultra comfortable, you can easily Drive Like 5-6hours+ without Any pains
Finally a video that actually teaches good ergonomics. To many people say to rest you entire arm on the desk when that can hurt your shoulders and forearm.
Physical health is important no matter what, but probably one of the main issues in gaming is mental health. There are gamers like me who will just get too mad at anything. It almost feels impossible to not get mad. Especially when the games you play have a lot of bugs, glitches, etc that annoying you. It is something that I'm am trying to improve myself. A video on this topic would be awesome.
Thank you for this, My chair was placed way to high since I work from home and now I see the consequences on my health but I had not realized this could be an issue. Thanks for this video.
Excellent advice! I know “gaming” chairs get a pretty bad rep and a lot of them are awful but honestly the higher end ones are worth it. I was using a crap gaming chair for a while and was constantly suffering from back pain. I have back pain anyway but the chair really wasn’t doing any favours. Upgraded to a SecretLab chair and it’s been the best decision so far. Comfortable and supportive. Not going to say it’s perfect but it’s a vast improvement. Next thing I need to change is my desk. There’s a bar going across where my shins are so I can’t stretch my legs out.
Awesome video mate very interesting & informative 😁 I'll definitely be keeping all of this in mind when configuring my setup when live-streaming and content/video editing.
My tip for gaming chairs is, first go to a store and sit in it. Let someone else look at your posture and tell you if your posture is good. You also need to feel if the chair fits you well. I myself tested many chairs out and most of them give me back pain or make me have a croocked back. The only chairs that seem to fit ME personally are Speed Seats Comfort chairs. You should do this as every brand and chair is different and you don't want to spend a couple hundred bucks on smth you don't know if it even suits you well.
I would like to thank you for giving me this information to help me improve the way I sit at my desk. I will try some of your ideas and if I do get pain then I will see a GP/Doctor about it. Thanks again.
my main issue with the mouse is one of two things, i either, get the "gamer mark" the right hand side of my wrist from contact with the mousepad, OR if i rest more of my arm on the desk, The edge of the desk digs into my arm before my elbow. Ive tried everything to combat both of these but with little success. Chair height, desk height, none seem to matter!!
Looking on this problem from sports and as personal trainer perspective long term this doesnt work, also Im a gamer for 20years, never had any problems and was doing desk job for 8h, gaming for 4-6h a day which lasted more than 14years and zero problems ever. Number 1: Monitor position should be in center with your eyes, so you dont look up or down. Monitor arm is a plus. Neck muscles get weak by looking down too much equalling headaches, neck problems ect. Tip: also putting taskbar on top of the screen makes wonders for this since it is definitively healthier to look up then down. Number 2. Wrist: full arm from elbow to mouse should be on the table to eliminate any arm strain (also picking a good mouse as you mentioned) Number 3. All keyboards should actually have height adjustment from the front so that palm drops down which immediatelly destresses arm extensors which in long term can lead to carpal tunnel with too much extension on the wrist. Number 4. Chair comments are ok, but every 45-60min you should squat or walk or hang or stretch for at least 2minutes also as you mentioned. Whhen im not standing, at least you can do this trick: sit on the edge on of a chair. Spread your legs making at least 90degreese or more if you can. Hang down to the floor from that position for 30-120sec whenever you are in between games or drinkinig water or whatever. Good luck, have fun :)
I was already following most of this advice but the monitor height is maybe something I should change. Thank you! I've missed quite a few weeks of gaming/streaming because i've thrown my back out to the point of not being able to walk.
Gaming chairs are really needed in my life cause its ergonomics are very good for my body posture, but I do find gaming chairs too expensive and couldn't afford one, even the cheap one are expensive for me 😅
Hell yeah those north bayou mounts are great!! I buy them in bulk since I use them when setting up clients all the time. I've got 5 of them installed throughout my house right now and another 3 of them in the office in my bins of computer parts I keep on hand that I use routinely for customers. I seem to order as many mounts as I do replacement hdds and power supplies lol.
I actually put my arm on top of my table 'cause my chair won't go high enough to align the arm rest and the table, is that alright? For now it's worked well for me and I've noticed many gamers do the same.
Thanks! I'm 5'6" or about 168cm and I can never find a desk and chair combo. My hands are always reaching up to use keyboard and mouse. All the desks seem to be at 29 or 30 inches high and chairs for my height always fall short of that. I like the idea of a foot rest to help with the 90 leg position. Great video man!
Thank you for this. I've been PC gaming for 20+ years and no one told me about this. I now suffer with constant hand pain and am unable to PC game anymore. I find console controllers easier to use, but even those will hurt after some time.
I was in the same case as you, just get an adjustable sit standing desk if you can afford it. Make sure your mouse and keyboard are close to you, like 1 inch from the edge of your desk, take pause, do not raid in Wow for 4 hours without any stretches, also make sure you keep yourself hydrated, exercise to strengthen those forearms, play different games to change the motion of your mouse hand. Baby steps, I'm getting back to gaming on PC. Wish you the best luck! :)
controllers make my hands hurt even more tbh, my thumb after a while hurts from holding down sprint. also surprised i don't have anything wrong with my right hand from playing claw for 6 years now
Working in IT then spending "most" ;) evenings in front of the PC for 20+years now it goes without saying that you should take this advice seriously. Have struggled over the years mainly down to the fact I'm left handed which massively limits the ergonomic mice, as a gaming mouse currently there's only one the razer deathadder (if you know of any other please let me know) which comes in a left handed model. All others I'd have to look at are ambidextrous so where they give all the extra buttons aren't the most comfortable in the hand. Tip for a chair if you don't want to spend £200+ on something that doesn't look overly sturdy you can buy a car seat and build a frame for it, the Honda Civic Type R seat are really comfy and will most likely be the next chair I "buy". Got this idea from my brother who's built one and it's amazing compared to any "gaming" chair I've sat in.
Hey Pete, Fantastic video as always and top quality as expected from you and your channel, in regards to information and production quality. I bought my first PC Around 4 years ago and never took any of this information into consideration. As of last year, I started my journey as a Twitch broadcaster, so I will definitely be looking at improving the ergonomics of my setup. I definitely look forward to the next videos, but specifically the next video you have planned for this series. A quick question if I may though, are there any tips/advice for controller users that we need to look out for? Thank you for the content you deliver and the hard work you do. :)
Why am I just now finding this NOOOOOOOOOO! 😭😭😭😭 I got alot to change tomorrow!! Thanks for the vid brother.! Gonna sub and check out more of your vids dang it's all PC I've never been so disappointed lol we need more ppl like you running around but helping console gamers/streamers!
Best Idea EVER, dude even if you are not a nutritional doctor or fitness guy doesn't matter, with sharing this important tips to improve our health and get some nice habits it's awesome! I noticed some bad habits while gaming thanks to your video, I hope you continue with there series, I've always wanted other opinions of gamer themselves about exercises and nutritions, i don't wanna be that typical dude streaming and eating junk food, that's gonna kill us! What if you talk about those supplements that claims to be 'good' for gaming? like eAdvantage i'm very curious.
I’ve played over a year with no issues, then it finally hit me. Bad neck pain and right arm shoulder pain right on the shoulder blade. Hoping the pain goes away someday! I’ve fixed my posture, arm position and I still have pain
Great Video, Also Just a TIP : Eye Strain. I recommend the 20/20/20 Rule. Every 20 Minutes, Look at something approx 20 FT Away for 20 Seconds. Wish their was Some Good Less expensive Gaming Chairs. Iam 6'7 and bad back lower and upper Lumbar. I need one of those Neat Tall Back Chairs.
My problem with ergonomics is that my elbow and neck comfort always contradicts with each other. At the highest seat lift, my elbows are too low for the desk that I have to raise my shoulders or not having my wrist at a neutral position which is uncomfortable while my back is fully flushed to the back rest. When I put some cushions on the chair, the elbow is fine, but then my neck starts to hurt because the chair's back rest is too low that my upper back - neck - shoulders just kind of floats. I'm getting a new chair soon, hope the problem is not my desk being too high lol. People here focus too much on gimmicks that ergonomic chair is basically hard to find or just plain expensive.
nice video but unfortunately you left the most important part for last. The foundation of the ergonomics will start from the desk and then build from there. If your desk is a bit higher in height and the height is static, like it is for most people, you will have to compensate by adjusting the height of the monitor and chair and then use a foot stool if necessary Also, the use of a V or L shaped desk, to me is much better than a standard desk because i can rest my arms on the desk and not have to rely on the chair arms. Another very important health concern is eye strain. Investing in a monitor with a higher refresh rate, anti-glare, etc will help a ton. 32 inch monitors should probably be placed further away than say a standard 21 inch. Having a small light shine behind the monitor, facing the wall, can also assist with having adequate lighting in the room, w/o affecting what you are seeing on your screen
Really great video! I almost got all of the points checked! and i'll check them when i'm moving at the end of next month, since changing my deskhight requires me to disasemble my whole setup which is quite obnoxious with 4 monitors mounted to it :D
I just wanna say that sitting on a chair for long sessions (I'm talking about 8+ hours) could lead to coccyx pain which I got from 2 summers ago, all I did was play 3 months straight pretty much all day every day and now my tailbone is screwed so i would advise getting a donut-shaped pillow or a tailbone pillow to reduce pressure on ur tailbone
I love this video. This is a very important topic. However I do disagree on the chair. I couldn't afford a real good chair of the more expensive variety so I went to IKEA and bought the Markus chair. Didn't take long until the underside cover broke. It's been increasingly uncomfortable. Unfortunately for me, it's more difficult for me to get the right type of chair without spending a lot of money due to my height and weight. Most chairs can take 210lb /100 kg and are made for people around 6ft/180cm. I am 6 ft 5 in / 196 cm and weigh about 135 kg. I could really use some advice or examples of what chairs to look at.
I highly recomend the GT Omega Raching Chairs ,good price Range and very good Materials from a small manufatcutry in England .Also they sell Heavy Weight People Chairs , they really Last , no broken Pistons and very durebale cusions.I Love mine and i sit all Day.One Con you have be at least 1.75 cm ,theyonly good for bigger People .And i have have some Issues with my armrests they cant be put up high enough when you have short arms.
I'm around 5'3'' so if I level my arm rest with the desk then my feet don't fully touch the floor. The arm rests are a part of the chair. I also slouch slightly even if I try sitting straight since it feels better to relax my back instead of forcing that stiffness all the time. Oh well.
Thanx for the neutral wrist position tip. I was about to buy vertical mouse but none of market options are really good. If anyone is interested in verticals, give it some time... trust me.
Subbed been watching some movies from you lately, i have learned alot! New streamer here just got affiliated so im very excited. Thanks for all the tips! U seem like a stand up guy!! Keep up the good work m8 :)
Would you recommend a padded mousepad and a pad that goes with your keyboard hand? I'm wondering if resting a part of the wrist on these would help, I have had surgery on both of them haha. Thanks for all the information sir awesome stuff
Are you still using the HERO chair from Noble chairs? If so, it is still holding up and working as it should? Wanting to make a purchase of a gaming chair today because of this video. Thanks!
choose your chair carefully one time i went to google some chairs and this one JYSK chair had a bad rating, but looked okay, i checked the review, guy said "shit chair, the arm holder broke very fast, don't buy" literally same day i went for a walk, looked at my neighbours yard and there it was, the same exact chair model from jysk with the arm holder broken lmao i shit you not real story bought a secretlab titan, good ergonomics, but bad price, not really comfortable like a good office chair i think, feels too hard, but i have a bad posture i'm trying to correct so maybe i'm wrong anyways i regret it and feel like getting an entry level herman miller would be dope
Another brilliant video Pete, wish I'd have watched this video half hour earlier as I've just bought the predator package and could have used your link, but the video in general was good, after streaming for 4-5 hours I do sometimes get a weird pain in the very bottom of my neck, think I'll adjust my monitor height 🙂
Great video Pete. Thank you for that. I was glad to see that my body positioning seems to be ok. But I took some of your advice and will use it definitely. I'm looking forward to you next videos in this area. As always, very usefeul video. Cheers!
I want a good quality chair as I am spending many hours at my setup doing schoolwork, gaming etc, but my parents don't really see the importance, any suggestions? Thanks btw that noble chair is so nice holy
I am in Chiropractic school right now. I absolutely love gaming and one of my passions is helping people live a healthier lifestyle. I appreciate you making this video because people need to be aware of what is happening to their body on a daily basis.
Is 600ish dpi still safe for the wrist?
@@kevinbeltran4091 i play on 1000 dpi bruh
@ChiroNate that's awesome! You should please make a video on this. There's not enough content. Just bought the hero chair because this video.
That is great that you are either knowingly or unknowingly deceiving people into thinking Chiropractic does anything to help people, other than the placebo effect and therapeutic massage.
@@danielwood6743 It is way more helpful than reactive healthcare such as drugs and surgery which is all that the US healthcare system offers, zero preventative because there is no financial incentive. My spine would be drastically different had I had a chiropractor back in the late 80s and early 90s while my spine was developing.
I stand during my livestreams, and my viewers think I’m stupid and say I should rather sit.
But I find that standing gives you better engagement with viewers since you can move around a bit more easily.
Careful putting too much stress on your feet tho. I’m assuming you use a fatigue mat of some sort to stand on? If not you should invest in one cause standing for long periods of time is stressful for your feet.
S6X Stringz Thanks, ill look into buying one!
:D
I'm also thinking about buying a desk for sitting and standing
@@AtTheEnd1000 do you mean an adjustible desk?
I always wondered why we dont see many streamers using standing desks
This is the video that I didn’t know I needed
Im an ergonomist/occupational therapist and I have seen and treated the kinds of injuries prolonged incorrect computer use can cause. This video was clear and extremely informative. I will be sharing it to patients who are having a hard time understanding the extent of injury to which lack of ergonomics can lead to. Thanks for this!!
Thanks so much for this mate. Absolutely critical advice that I'm taking to heart. I started noticing discomfort when I'm playing. Sometimes during long grinds I'd just play through the pain and then take a break a long time later. Those bad habits will lead to serious health problems later. I've learned a lot from these tips, and something that I hope other gamers will really benefit from.
Wow, I had heard about the eye level needing to reach the top of the screen but never thought much of it, I just chucked a few books under my screen and immediately felt my neck relax. Thanks!
Excellent video. Office ergonomics is often overlooked and completely ignored in most cases. Reminders, such as this video, are greatly appreciated.
Appreciate this dude, started getting hand cramps recently so I've thought twice about my posture. Went ahead and bought an ergonomic desk as well as I feel height adjustment is a must for me.
thanks man. You helped my neck and back. I never realized it was due to something so easily fixable as proper gaming setup. thanks a bunch!!!!
Thanks bro it's the perfect timing for this video as I am going to have a setup thanks a lot🙏🙏
Don't forget to flip the despacito
@@baiomarlaye3165 ok bro
Show us how it looks
@@Coltwhyte bro I am going to make it I have not made it till😅😅
Being new to pc gaming, I NEEDED this video!
9:08 I use the FLINTAN chair without the arm rest and I can say that it feels very great
Great video bro, it'll help a lot of people. A few years ago I bought a cheap gaming chair from Amazon for $100 because I wanted a cool looking chair, but I also didn't want to spend like over $300 for a legit gaming chair. After using it for a while, I found myself with a lot of back problems and needing to crack my back constantly and whatnot and it wasn't great. Eventually I bought a chair from IKEA like he showed and it's soooo much better. My back feels so much better and I don't have any back pain or problems anymore. So to people out there I would suggest buying an office chair from IKEA if you can't afford to buy an expensive gaming chair.
Good video im 19 and had surgery on both hands due to carpal tunnel wish i would've come across this video in 2019
As someone suffering from RSI, I thank you for this video and recommend for anyone using the PC for more than 2 hours a day.
8:43 THATS MY CHAIR!!!
Upgraded to a SecretLabs chair a week ago, thank god lol
3:43
ah yes, nothing like being reminded about school while rushing b
First vid of yours that I've watched. Very helpful, cheers.
The biggest factor other than $$$ in switching from console to PC gaming has been the ergonomics, which killed the experience for me in my past attempts to play things like an FPS with KB+M. I really appreciate this video and your intentions and content within it. The one *major* thing I have to question is your comments about wrist position on the mouse and keyboard. You go over three positions for holding the mouse and state that "the claw and fingertip grip do use more muscles and therefore have a slightly higher risk for injury." Every methodology of bodywork I've encountered states the opposite conclusion of this if->then statement. The optimal position for typing and gripping a mouse is with a straight line from the forearm all the way to the first knuckles, hence wristpads for keyboards and mousepads to encourage this. Any upward bend of the wrist/hand from the forearm is what puts a significantly higher chance of longterm breakdown on these vital body parts. ... Whether this comment benefits anyone, I can't know. But I will be continuing my search for a better ergonomic setup for my PC gaming that encourages *active engagement* of muscles that support their surrounding bone and ligament structures' well-being. ;tldr Engaging more muscles that we as animals naturally evolved to use *prolongs and supports* the unnatural positions of sitting at a computer for hours on end. Microadjustments of positioning are everything! I wish this video had expressed this better, but I appreciate it nonetheless.
I love everything about this video - well done!! Alot of the descriptions about ergonomics sounds familiar ;)
I'm a gamer, but also work from my home office, so I can often be in my chair for 12-16 hours a day. While "gaming chairs" are extremely popular, I think many gamers aren't researching options that are common in the professional market, which can be even more beneficial for posture and injury prevention, and are often far more comfortable. For the price of a new Noblechair for instance, you can find a second-hand Humanscale Freedom Chair, or a Herman Miller Aeron. Or for a bit more my favorite chair, the Herman Miller Embody, will last many, many years and is one of the most functional chairs I've ever used.
Or a Brand New Autonomous ErgoChair 2 it's really nice, where I live a used Aeron is still $800 dollars, a d brand new one (here in Mexico) is $1400, the base model
My favorite part!
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Tofu, that wasn’t very nice.
I'd say stay away from gaming chairs the design was meant for a car while something like a herman miller Aeron is designed for computer use and designed by those who know ergonomics vs someone who slapped a car seat on some legs.
elitemav racing seats are mad for you to sit in for hours on end without hurting the body. Why shouldn’t it work as a desk chair which we will also be sitting in for hours?
@@Coltontutt they really aren't, they are made for driving to be easier, so they make it easier to reach the pedals and the steering wheel.
Have you never sat on a car for 3 hours Straight, it's uncomfortable AF
@Vishnu Kalluri I feel bad for you if you think Secret Labs are comfortable, cuz you've clearly never felt actual comfort
@@daarksideyt *FINALLY!* Here's someone that gets the point. While racing chairs look cool, they do not belong in an indoor setting. Certainly not in an office or other places where you spend 8+ hours sitting every day. It's nothing more than a marketing gimmick and the people that advertise these chairs are doing so with no regard for their fans long-term health. They only do it for the money.
TriHard Well maybe in your car ut gets uncomfortable after 3hours+ my 2018 BMW M3 got Like racing seats. They are ultra comfortable, you can easily Drive Like 5-6hours+ without Any pains
Finally a video that actually teaches good ergonomics. To many people say to rest you entire arm on the desk when that can hurt your shoulders and forearm.
Oh, so what would be a better position?
Physical health is important no matter what, but probably one of the main issues in gaming is mental health. There are gamers like me who will just get too mad at anything. It almost feels impossible to not get mad. Especially when the games you play have a lot of bugs, glitches, etc that annoying you. It is something that I'm am trying to improve myself. A video on this topic would be awesome.
Thank you for this, My chair was placed way to high since I work from home and now I see the consequences on my health but I had not realized this could be an issue. Thanks for this video.
Thank You for this excellent video, desk ergonomics are not only for work but also gaming FOR WORK! Hehe, Great video!
Excellent advice! I know “gaming” chairs get a pretty bad rep and a lot of them are awful but honestly the higher end ones are worth it. I was using a crap gaming chair for a while and was constantly suffering from back pain. I have back pain anyway but the chair really wasn’t doing any favours. Upgraded to a SecretLab chair and it’s been the best decision so far. Comfortable and supportive. Not going to say it’s perfect but it’s a vast improvement. Next thing I need to change is my desk. There’s a bar going across where my shins are so I can’t stretch my legs out.
Proper Office chairs are much better thought as have more ergonomics with their design but do cost a lot of money sadly :(
Awesome that you cover topics like this. A lot of people aren't interested in preventing injury.
ALSO! Who you callin' a small person!
Awesome video mate very interesting & informative 😁 I'll definitely be keeping all of this in mind when configuring my setup when live-streaming and content/video editing.
Great video, like you said may not be the most popular topic but I found it very informative and I thank you for that 😀👍
My tip for gaming chairs is, first go to a store and sit in it. Let someone else look at your posture and tell you if your posture is good. You also need to feel if the chair fits you well.
I myself tested many chairs out and most of them give me back pain or make me have a croocked back.
The only chairs that seem to fit ME personally are Speed Seats Comfort chairs.
You should do this as every brand and chair is different and you don't want to spend a couple hundred bucks on smth you don't know if it even suits you well.
Without your channel I'd have absolutely no idea what I'm doing, thanks for all the videos.
I would like to thank you for giving me this information to help me improve the way I sit at my desk. I will try some of your ideas and if I do get pain then I will see a GP/Doctor about it. Thanks again.
my main issue with the mouse is one of two things, i either, get the "gamer mark" the right hand side of my wrist from contact with the mousepad, OR if i rest more of my arm on the desk, The edge of the desk digs into my arm before my elbow. Ive tried everything to combat both of these but with little success. Chair height, desk height, none seem to matter!!
Looking on this problem from sports and as personal trainer perspective long term this doesnt work, also Im a gamer for 20years, never had any problems and was doing desk job for 8h, gaming for 4-6h a day which lasted more than 14years and zero problems ever.
Number 1:
Monitor position should be in center with your eyes, so you dont look up or down. Monitor arm is a plus.
Neck muscles get weak by looking down too much equalling headaches, neck problems ect.
Tip: also putting taskbar on top of the screen makes wonders for this since it is definitively healthier to look up then down.
Number 2.
Wrist: full arm from elbow to mouse should be on the table to eliminate any arm strain (also picking a good mouse as you mentioned)
Number 3.
All keyboards should actually have height adjustment from the front so that palm drops down which immediatelly destresses arm extensors which in long term can lead to carpal tunnel with too much extension on the wrist.
Number 4.
Chair comments are ok, but every 45-60min you should squat or walk or hang or stretch for at least 2minutes also as you mentioned.
Whhen im not standing, at least you can do this trick: sit on the edge on of a chair. Spread your legs making at least 90degreese or more if you can. Hang down to the floor from that position for 30-120sec whenever you are in between games or drinkinig water or whatever.
Good luck, have fun :)
I was already following most of this advice but the monitor height is maybe something I should change. Thank you! I've missed quite a few weeks of gaming/streaming because i've thrown my back out to the point of not being able to walk.
This was actually surprisingly helpful
Gaming chairs are really needed in my life cause its ergonomics are very good for my body posture, but I do find gaming chairs too expensive and couldn't afford one, even the cheap one are expensive for me 😅
Hell yeah those north bayou mounts are great!! I buy them in bulk since I use them when setting up clients all the time. I've got 5 of them installed throughout my house right now and another 3 of them in the office in my bins of computer parts I keep on hand that I use routinely for customers. I seem to order as many mounts as I do replacement hdds and power supplies lol.
I actually put my arm on top of my table 'cause my chair won't go high enough to align the arm rest and the table, is that alright? For now it's worked well for me and I've noticed many gamers do the same.
Same here how u been ?
Thanks! I'm 5'6" or about 168cm and I can never find a desk and chair combo. My hands are always reaching up to use keyboard and mouse. All the desks seem to be at 29 or 30 inches high and chairs for my height always fall short of that. I like the idea of a foot rest to help with the 90 leg position. Great video man!
Get an adjustable table then. Just the manual adjust as the automated one is very expensive
Thank you for this. I've been PC gaming for 20+ years and no one told me about this. I now suffer with constant hand pain and am unable to PC game anymore. I find console controllers easier to use, but even those will hurt after some time.
I was in the same case as you, just get an adjustable sit standing desk if you can afford it. Make sure your mouse and keyboard are close to you, like 1 inch from the edge of your desk, take pause, do not raid in Wow for 4 hours without any stretches, also make sure you keep yourself hydrated, exercise to strengthen those forearms, play different games to change the motion of your mouse hand. Baby steps, I'm getting back to gaming on PC. Wish you the best luck! :)
controllers make my hands hurt even more tbh, my thumb after a while hurts from holding down sprint. also surprised i don't have anything wrong with my right hand from playing claw for 6 years now
Excited to apply these to my setup and seeing if it enhances my stream and vids
You deserve more views. Watching your videos helped me a lot as a beginner streamer keep it going 👍🏼
How about a pad for the mouse? Like keyboards has?
Emfez like a wrist rest for a mouse? Don’t get one.
Working in IT then spending "most" ;) evenings in front of the PC for 20+years now it goes without saying that you should take this advice seriously. Have struggled over the years mainly down to the fact I'm left handed which massively limits the ergonomic mice, as a gaming mouse currently there's only one the razer deathadder (if you know of any other please let me know) which comes in a left handed model. All others I'd have to look at are ambidextrous so where they give all the extra buttons aren't the most comfortable in the hand.
Tip for a chair if you don't want to spend £200+ on something that doesn't look overly sturdy you can buy a car seat and build a frame for it, the Honda Civic Type R seat are really comfy and will most likely be the next chair I "buy". Got this idea from my brother who's built one and it's amazing compared to any "gaming" chair I've sat in.
Hey Pete,
Fantastic video as always and top quality as expected from you and your channel, in regards to information and production quality. I bought my first PC Around 4 years ago and never took any of this information into consideration.
As of last year, I started my journey as a Twitch broadcaster, so I will definitely be looking at improving the ergonomics of my setup. I definitely look forward to the next videos, but specifically the next video you have planned for this series.
A quick question if I may though, are there any tips/advice for controller users that we need to look out for?
Thank you for the content you deliver and the hard work you do. :)
Great video !! Gaming is actually a very dangerous sport .Make sure to watch your posture .
You know... this is something that a lot of people really don’t think about so thanks for the content and I’ll consider it
Why am I just now finding this NOOOOOOOOOO! 😭😭😭😭 I got alot to change tomorrow!! Thanks for the vid brother.! Gonna sub and check out more of your vids dang it's all PC I've never been so disappointed lol we need more ppl like you running around but helping console gamers/streamers!
Great video, keep up the good work!
Best Idea EVER, dude even if you are not a nutritional doctor or fitness guy doesn't matter, with sharing this important tips to improve our health and get some nice habits it's awesome! I noticed some bad habits while gaming thanks to your video, I hope you continue with there series, I've always wanted other opinions of gamer themselves about exercises and nutritions, i don't wanna be that typical dude streaming and eating junk food, that's gonna kill us! What if you talk about those supplements that claims to be 'good' for gaming? like eAdvantage i'm very curious.
3:45 CS major! CLRS is a must have!
good quality content ! makes you re-center on the essentials and that's the way it should be.
Amazing. which chair you using and model plz?
noblechairs HERO Series. :)
I’ve played over a year with no issues, then it finally hit me. Bad neck pain and right arm shoulder pain right on the shoulder blade. Hoping the pain goes away someday! I’ve fixed my posture, arm position and I still have pain
this is what I'm looking for! very informative thanks very much!
Amazing video. Please make more content like this :)
Hey nice video bro keep up the great work!
Great vid, great info. Love the RJN shout-out 😁
Thanks bro this really helped me!
Great video man regards from spain
Great Video, Also Just a TIP : Eye Strain. I recommend the 20/20/20 Rule. Every 20 Minutes, Look at something approx 20 FT Away for 20 Seconds. Wish their was Some Good Less expensive Gaming Chairs. Iam 6'7 and bad back lower and upper Lumbar. I need one of those Neat Tall Back Chairs.
This is great! Can’t wait to see the others you mentioned!
Another fantastic video!!👌👍 Keep the awsome work
I think this a really good and informative video, going to make a few adjustments for sure 👍
Tnx you as a streamer for that info :) And i could listen to you all day man keep up the good work :)
Glad seeing all of these ergonomic videos.
Wow this is very helpful! Thanks..Newbie Streamer here and want to learn more.. Looking forward to being a full time streamer and quit my job..lol
The best video about this topic...
Nice PG279(?) setup
I got the PG279Q two months ago & wow is it something else!
My problem with ergonomics is that my elbow and neck comfort always contradicts with each other.
At the highest seat lift, my elbows are too low for the desk that I have to raise my shoulders or not having my wrist at a neutral position which is uncomfortable while my back is fully flushed to the back rest. When I put some cushions on the chair, the elbow is fine, but then my neck starts to hurt because the chair's back rest is too low that my upper back - neck - shoulders just kind of floats.
I'm getting a new chair soon, hope the problem is not my desk being too high lol. People here focus too much on gimmicks that ergonomic chair is basically hard to find or just plain expensive.
nice video but unfortunately you left the most important part for last.
The foundation of the ergonomics will start from the desk and then build from there.
If your desk is a bit higher in height and the height is static, like it is for most people, you will have to compensate by adjusting the height of the monitor and chair and then use a foot stool if necessary
Also, the use of a V or L shaped desk, to me is much better than a standard desk because i can rest my arms on the desk and not have to rely on the chair arms.
Another very important health concern is eye strain.
Investing in a monitor with a higher refresh rate, anti-glare, etc will help a ton.
32 inch monitors should probably be placed further away than say a standard 21 inch.
Having a small light shine behind the monitor, facing the wall, can also assist with having adequate lighting in the room, w/o affecting what you are seeing on your screen
thank you for this! I've been having pain in the heel of my palm and this video made me realize my chair arms are too high.
Great video. Looking foward for the caffeine topic :)
Really great video!
I almost got all of the points checked!
and i'll check them when i'm moving at the end of next month, since changing my deskhight requires me to disasemble my whole setup which is quite obnoxious with 4 monitors mounted to it :D
What should you do if your desk is too high?
Very informative, thanks!
Thanks, Mr. Merchant. This video really helped, hows Ricky?
I just wanna say that sitting on a chair for long sessions (I'm talking about 8+ hours) could lead to coccyx pain which I got from 2 summers ago, all I did was play 3 months straight pretty much all day every day and now my tailbone is screwed so i would advise getting a donut-shaped pillow or a tailbone pillow to reduce pressure on ur tailbone
I love this video. This is a very important topic. However I do disagree on the chair. I couldn't afford a real good chair of the more expensive variety so I went to IKEA and bought the Markus chair. Didn't take long until the underside cover broke. It's been increasingly uncomfortable. Unfortunately for me, it's more difficult for me to get the right type of chair without spending a lot of money due to my height and weight. Most chairs can take 210lb /100 kg and are made for people around 6ft/180cm. I am 6 ft 5 in / 196 cm and weigh about 135 kg. I could really use some advice or examples of what chairs to look at.
I highly recomend the GT Omega Raching Chairs ,good price Range and very good Materials from a small manufatcutry in England .Also they sell Heavy Weight People Chairs , they really Last , no broken Pistons and very durebale cusions.I Love mine and i sit all Day.One Con you have be at least 1.75 cm ,theyonly good for bigger People .And i have have some Issues with my armrests they cant be put up high enough when you have short arms.
I'm around 5'3'' so if I level my arm rest with the desk then my feet don't fully touch the floor. The arm rests are a part of the chair. I also slouch slightly even if I try sitting straight since it feels better to relax my back instead of forcing that stiffness all the time. Oh well.
Thanx for the neutral wrist position tip. I was about to buy vertical mouse but none of market options are really good. If anyone is interested in verticals, give it some time... trust me.
Subbed been watching some movies from you lately, i have learned alot! New streamer here just got affiliated so im very excited. Thanks for all the tips! U seem like a stand up guy!! Keep up the good work m8 :)
Thank you , I really like your video, very helpful 👍👍👍👍
Great video brother thank you
Very good video, good tips 👍
Thnx this was very helpful!
Would you recommend a padded mousepad and a pad that goes with your keyboard hand? I'm wondering if resting a part of the wrist on these would help, I have had surgery on both of them haha. Thanks for all the information sir awesome stuff
Are you still using the HERO chair from Noble chairs? If so, it is still holding up and working as it should? Wanting to make a purchase of a gaming chair today because of this video. Thanks!
choose your chair carefully
one time i went to google some chairs and this one JYSK chair had a bad rating, but looked okay, i checked the review, guy said "shit chair, the arm holder broke very fast, don't buy"
literally same day i went for a walk, looked at my neighbours yard and there it was, the same exact chair model from jysk with the arm holder broken lmao i shit you not real story
bought a secretlab titan, good ergonomics, but bad price, not really comfortable like a good office chair i think, feels too hard, but i have a bad posture i'm trying to correct so maybe i'm wrong
anyways i regret it and feel like getting an entry level herman miller would be dope
Another brilliant video Pete, wish I'd have watched this video half hour earlier as I've just bought the predator package and could have used your link, but the video in general was good, after streaming for 4-5 hours I do sometimes get a weird pain in the very bottom of my neck, think I'll adjust my monitor height 🙂
Much needed video
Great video Pete. Thank you for that. I was glad to see that my body positioning seems to be ok. But I took some of your advice and will use it definitely. I'm looking forward to you next videos in this area. As always, very usefeul video. Cheers!
you broke you hand while playing sking on pc :D
Yeah STEEP
what desktop do you have? love the wood color!
Been a PC gamer for years - I just tilted my main monitor back slightly.... I like!
I want a good quality chair as I am spending many hours at my setup doing schoolwork, gaming etc, but my parents don't really see the importance, any suggestions? Thanks
btw that noble chair is so nice holy
Carsonaitor that chair looks great, will definitely consider getting it, thank you!