The Dangers Of Modern Dating | Murder On the Internet (Part 1) | Real Crime
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- A look at some of the most shocking and tragic incidents that have occurred from online dating and why we need greater public awareness of the risks of using online apps to meet people.
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I went out on a date with this guy who seemed quite charming. The date had went well. But during the time we were about to leave the guy kept saying "after this were going to a hotel" i was like "um, no i'm going home." But he kept insisting cause he said "i'm paying for the date" i pulled out cash threw it at him and walked my ass right out that restaurant and called a cab. Not today satan...Not....TODAY!
👏👏👏
What a low life
Nice!
👏👏👏👏 For real!!!
I had a first date say to me over drinks and apps, “I’ve heard if the man pays the bill, the woman feels like she owes him something”. I was like, “no, most women don’t feel that way” 😝 🙃.
Another guy texted me ten minutes before we met at a bar and said, “I go dutch on the first date, is that okay?” 🙄.
Protect your wallet men, keep the first date to a $2 coffee or tea - and pay for it. Problem solved.
As an edit, I’m including another story about a guy who I met for a first date and the first words out of his mouth were, “I forgot my wallet” and he lived a 20 minute drive away. I’m like, “I guess pints are on me 😬”. And they were.
As an older and wiser lady who feels she wasted way too much time dating her youth away, I beg young folks to use their time enjoying improving their interests, talents, & self improvement efforts.
Dating and developing your interests aren't mutually exclusive. What a strange thing to say. I'm so glad I dated plenty of people in my twenties. If you use some common sense, you can weed out the weirdos, psychos and losers. An inner voice always tells you when something weird starts going down. You just pay attention instead of ignoring it.
Can't imagine forgoing meeting people at the height of youth and beauty. You can both work hard and enjoy life.
I agree, Pj Lewis. And in the process, there's a strong possibility of meeting someone with the same interests, talents, and aspirations that you hold. What a concept!
@@ampa4989 When you are older and wiser you may realize that dating random strangers is not the same thing as enjoying life.
@@lynnsmith4
Who dates random strangers? I'm not talking casual sex but actually dating people.
I don't know how you guys enjoyed life in your twenties, but being courted and pursued is one of life's great thrills. It's the basis of our existence, really. After all, we first and foremost evolved as a species to reproduce.
A day will come when men stop looking at us with desire. And there's an innocence about young men (and women) that's lost after youth. So you have to relish the compliments, the adoration and the intensity of feelings while you can get them.
I don't really understand why that's contradictory to growing and developing yourself as a person. And I'm not sure what would be a better way to enjoy youth that would exclude being pursued.
@@grassrootsgardener
But then you'd just be right back to square one "wasting time dating youth away" as the OP states.
The sentiment must be the regret of women who just frittered life away always trying to change and accommodate themselves to attract and hold onto men. That's a waste of time and life and not a necessary part of dating.
Had a first date that between drinks and dinner was pleasant. However 1st alarm bell, him admitting that he lied about his age (by 10 years!), 2nd was that during the nightcap drink he claimed he suddenly can't find the his house keys and therefore can he stay at mine. Hmm became quite insistent whilst I said that my place is not an option and suggested he should call a friend. I left and recieved 20+ abusive messages during my taxi ride home. Blocked on the spot!!! Ladies, anyone forcing their presence for an overnight stay should sound in your head like a fire engine!!!!
You wouldn't want to accidently bump into him on a dark night then 🥺
He must use that same tactic on pratically every date he has. 😂😂 i really wonder how many woman, if any, have fallen for it.
Fortunately, and this may come as a surprise to most women, that especially on a first date after drinks most men dont recognise the women again after intoxication which is a good thing!!😂🙏👌
Holy shit, that was SCARY! That guy was clearly unhinged.
You might want to report that. 🤔
@@saveriosalemme5366 Being an asshole is not an event the police take reports on, and she didn't say he touched her in an inappropriate way... clearly he was unhinged because he didn't get to do what he wanted - whatever that may have been.
Wow glad you're ok
Why is dating so freaking difficult?!? Is it a wild idea that I’d want to go out with a guy and you know...not die. My prayers for the victim and the family.
We allways have to be scary this days to be raped, killed, abused, kidnapped, stalked..., used and so on...
It is a sad scary world.
KNOW who you're dating. Do your homework. Starting with a back ground check.
Tajar Orr I ask myself this daily 😔
Maybe chaperones should be a thing again??
Well date the real way...
I'm 60 and it was bad enough in my day. Now there is a whole new level of deception and danger. My condolences to the family and friends of these young victims.
T S - I´m 64 and I feel the same. I use to say - I´m glad I´m not 17 today.
I'm 63 have been on and off match.com for many years. Had some interesting relationships...some lasted a few years, others were just a few dates then ended as they were just too weird. I finally found someone worthy earlier this year. A sweet man, decent, honest, loving, attentive. Never met any psychos or murderers.
@tina rmeileh Don't give up. Somewhere out there there is someone out there who's looking for the same thing you are. Go to a paying site and not a free one as there are less freaks on the paying ones. I learned to read between the lines and sniff out the weirdos.
@tina rmeileh And Merry Christmas and God bless you Tina! You Matter.
I've seen you on Dr. Grande videos! :D
My former father in-law invited me for supper. He toke me to the area that most restaurant are Italian owned. As we were sitting at the table, I also noticed that a very pretty girl was at the restaurant sitting with a guy few feet's away from us. At some point, the girl got up and assumed that he was going to the lady's room. While she was gone, the guy pulled something out of his pocket and looked around and poor that substance into the glass of wine that was the girl's glass. I looked at my father on-law and said, Joe did you see what I saw. He said yes. Just to mention that Joe is an Italian man 6. 7 tall and build like a gorilla. He got up and walked to the couples table and literally left that guy off the ground and he was squeezing him. Suddenly the girl came back and said... Sir. Why are you manhandling my date? Joe said. This guy poor some white substance into your glass of wine. So Joe picked up the other glass, and throw it at the guys face and empty the other glass in to his glass. When she saw that there was a white substance in the bottom of the glass, she turned and smacked her date in the face. By then, the police were called by the restaurant staff. When the police arrived at the restaurant, they immediately recognized the guy. One of the Cop. You again. Obviously Cops knew this guy and he must've done it to other female person. He was being arrested and were taken to prison. At the same time, my father in-law said to the girl. Sweetheart. Why don't you come and dine with us. I'll pay. Joe said. So, to all those ladies, beware of predators. They have so many different faces.
thank goodness you were there and saved her. it's good to hear about good people - especially when you're a true crime junkie, like me!!
Bravo Joe!!!! Wish there were more like him! God bless you!
Damn....you're an angel regardless
You have a great father in law! God bless you both!
I was being pursued quite regularly by a gentleman. He kept coming into the bar I worked at. Constantly asking me out. Directly there was nothing “wrong” or obviously troubling about him. I just got a terrible feeling whenever he was talking to me. I would physically feel Sick. All my female coworkers kept egging me on to go on a date with him. I kept saying “no. Something about him makes me sick.” I don’t know how but one of my friends convinced me to go on a double date with her and her boyfriend and the man. I agreed if they would go I’d give him a chance. Only lasted about two hours before I said I wasn’t feeling well, told my friend not to pressure me to spend any more time with the man, and got a cab home. I didn’t see him for a couple of weeks so I thought maybe he had gotten the hint. No. My same friend who pressured me calling me hysterically yelling how she’d never doubt my judgement again and forwarded a news story about how that same man was just arrested a couple days before for the murder of a woman he was dating. So the entire time he was trying to convince me to date him, he had already strangled and killed another woman, and set her house on fire to try to cover it up. He must have thought he got away with it. Supposedly the police were just building a case against him and now he’s in prison. I’ve been a victim of sexual assault and domestic violence so sometimes I have tendencies to see the worst in people but in this scenario my instincts were spot on and to this day I think my intuition probably kept me out of danger this time.
You've got great intuition. Always listen to it.
Wow
Holy shit! I'm happy you were with friends when you actually did go out with him.
Always listen to your gut! Thank you for not doubting yourself. Glad you are here today and safe. It's brave to share your situation and hopefully it encourages others to do the same!
Wow. So glad you are ok. That intuition you have is a gift.
Online dating is a disaster. Everyone lies. I met men who looked nothing liked t their pictures, married men.
@Delroy Williams my cousin met her bf in church. He killed her.
@Winter Sun I've had that issue many times with women, they sure do love the hell out of those snapchat filters, I like it when they say i'm 30 but look 50 lmao.
@Delroy Williams I am SO totally with you on that, Hon.!!
@Delroy Williams So true! I agree! :)
I met my current boyfriend online. We have been together for four years, he is amazing. He was 100% honest.
Online dating is a cesspool for narcissists and psychopaths. A guy who wants to woo you over text is a red flag too. I speak from experience.
I now tell them, no matter how much we talk on text, the day we interact in real life is day 1. And all day 1 protocol applies.
Exactly I dealt with men playing games that just texted, they don’t talk on the phone because they are probably being sneaky. Best to only meet in public, going somewhere alone with a stranger that you only texted can be dangerous for anyone. I used online dating years ago and while there is nice people on there you could also meet people that are dangerous, never rush into anything and always take time to get to know someone a few months atleast.
I dont think he just decided to start killing at the later age of 41. He has most likely been killing all his adult life he just never got caught.
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True
Not always the case.. He may have had preconceived ideas of killing in his mind, but actually carried them out at the age of 41..
Caroline👍
He wasn’t 41.
At the end of the day realize one is never truly safe with another individual regardless of how you meet. Expect the unexpected.
Amen !
That’s not true, no way to live
@Red Mage Agree! Social events, party-gatherings, restaurants (never go behind closed doors) simple as that! Get to know them...
Even after you have known them for years!
@Red Mage 😆
that poor dog walker finding two boys in exactly the same way I'm sure the lady thought "this can't be a coincidence" but no, the police didn't connect the dots
There are whole documentaries on this particular case, you should watch them. The place the men were found was a notorious junkie hangout, regularly used for hook-ups. To find dead people there was not out of the ordinary.
I had no idea Nicole Kidman was a psychologist. *Pro tip*: When meeting people online, assume everyone is a serial killer until they prove they're not.
So true. Assume anyone online is a criminal untill proven otherwise
Dating in general always has been and always will be dangerous - online, offline, locally, or internationally.
True. There are no guarantees in dating; it's ALWAYS a crap shoot.
online dating only can turn deadly when it becomes offline dating
Wrong. I've 'dated' (euphemism) a LOYT and never a problem. Difference being I always had met/sensed them IN PERSON. These 'apps' are the problem. Sad bloody Technocratic world you're all stumbling into.
Getting married can also be dangerous.
keep your dating very, very public. Meet at an event, restaurant, park. I've evn had my friends show up and sit a couple tables away, but not alert the guy we knew each other. Don't forget u can always order 'an angel shot' at the bar to signal u need someone to call a cab and get u into that cab safely.
I met 4 guys on dating apps. All four had some sort of character flaw, and my gut kept telling me something was not right with each one. Without a long drawn out story, my gut was right. I now live happily ever after with my dog! No more dating for me.
I love my dog too
I tried dating after a long relationshiop ended..my sister gave this guy my phone cause a friend of her husband knew him...anyway on the first date..he tried to force himself..I was like no...but stupid me ..I went out with him..after he apologized..I tried..but it was obvious..he just wanted the benefits not interested in a relationship!! Lasted 5 months and I had enough!! I have been happily single ever since.
I am with you. I love being with my dog than dating. No worries no drama.
It's called instinct, I call it my little birdies, they've helped me a lot. Online dating 💕 can work but like you, I no longer use it, its full of lies and deception. Fake or dated pics abound, as if you weren't going to notice and that's just for starters, it gets worst from there. Good luck nonetheless Janette, be happy 😊
only losers and men/women with issues search for company in dating sites. That's the best way to hide their darkest side....
I'm an old woman now but took a lot of risks throughout my life . I really am fortunate that I never got killed... Travelling around the world alone...
Seems creepy to me now
It's not the apps that cause problems, it's the high risk behaviour. Don't go into private homes or hotel rooms with a stranger. Does that really need to be stated?
Pretty much. There was a story not long ago, maybe a year ish? Of a young 20 year old girl who met a man online and she moved into his house after talking to him for a few months 👀
Deeply judgemental and unhelpful
I dont think that's the problem. I think that's like blaming women who are raped by saying "well they shouldn't have allowed themselves to be raped" when actually, the rapists are the problem. Obviously some people are different. I personally would not meet a stranger at his home. However, lots of people do and generally, you're not murdered for it. The murderers and rapists are the problem. Not the people being murdered and raped.
And you’re perfect!
without a doubt dating apps facilitate violence. and not everybody uses common sense 🤷♂️
There is risk in all dating. I’ve personally known people been in relationships for 10 years with someone and they suddenly become outrageously abusive. Unfortunately we all just have to watch out for ourselves all the time.
Absolutely! 🙏🏼
Right look at Barry Morphew
They shows signs tho. Like being too good to be true or rushing you to commit. Or being a bit irresponsible during dating
@@hiefia8568 Not everybody can recognize the signs
@@meganh4011 true so you educate yourself. RUclips, google etc, a trusted more experienced secure adult or friend. And start with verifying if odd behavior is bad or not. And your instincts will point out bad behavior if you don't brush it off.
Anyone getting so drunk (the 1st time you meet them on a 1st date) to the point of being violently ill and completely out of it...is the biggest "red flag" for you to run for your life away from that person. Nothing good can come out of that, and it definitely shows you that the person is out of control.
I went on a date with a guy from POF and he followed me to my car after the date when I had already said nice to meet you and left and paid for my own meal - insisted on giving me a hug which I half hugged with my car door between us and kept saying ok bye and he says that’s all no kiss? Um no! And then I left and he keeps messaging on the site - it was the last time I met anyone from there again. People are weird and nuts and no matter where you meet them, true crime watching has taught me that anyone is capable of murder or awful evil acts so you have to always be vigilant and aware of everything around you. Even when you do everything right you still can end up killed. Sad world we live in.
Basically online delivery for serial killers...I never understood this realm of dating
That's no lie😂😂😂 the amount of married men lying their asses off on those dating apps is beyond ridiculous 😅😅😅😅😅
Yes, it is just and they lie, lie, Lie.
YES my ex brother in law cheated on my sister with girls from computer!! Disgusting
Easy baby i wouldn't lie to you
Never trust onlign intentions . just because it sounds legit doesn't mean it is .
Your playing with your life . heed my warning
@@tasmaniandevil7610 "Your playing with your life . heed my warning" says the serial killer lol just kidding man. Nice name :)
When you get older (I'm 65 now) all that dating drama appears ridiculous.
I've been married over ten years, seems ridiculous to me, too
Oh yes but it is very real the people out there in the real world it doesn't matter your age on 75 and I deal with it all the time it is ridiculous it's disgusting it's sickening
All that dating looked ridiculous to me even as a teenager. I’m 38 years old now. And barely ran into problems!
Lol...very true. I'm only 50 and already see that, Not that I'm not attractive but I'm just over it. I chose a single life and very independent. I dont need a man to pay my bills. No headache needed
So true 🙂
if on my first date with a random person, they ended up drunk and puking everywhere, i'd just text my friend to pick me up, and I'd leave them there alone. sorry not sorry. cause that just tells me that they're irresponsible. call me insensitive or whatever, but i'd still leave you there puking by yourself 🤷🏻♀️
Definitely not a good first impression and view into the future. Ummm bye 👋 🏃
Exactly tho, they know what they are doing when they get that drunk. You aren't a babysitter 😅
Exactly i would be like boy bye..TF
Exactly or if you eat too much that you end up sick.
Naa
Absolutely there's nothing wrong with it.
Are British police just incompetent or extremely lenient?
They get paid either way, so what incentive do they have to actually do work? That's what happens when people care more about a paycheck than actually doing their jobs.
Both
I assumed homophobic, but incompetent still works.
Both, I'd say.
Agree that it's both + they're homophobes.
Always meet first in a very public place. Tell someone you’re going there + when. Never go back to a hotel room alone w/a stranger. If they get drunk, call them a cab. So scary! Be extra careful w/ online dating.
Well said! 👍🏼
Or just don’t do it!
My rules
1. Daylight
2. Public place
3. 2 hours limit
4. I don't get in ur vehicle nor u in mine
5. I am Armed (they don't know that)
6. U don't get my address, work place
7. I don't go to ur house
8. My adult son gets a pic of u and ur name as well as our date plans
9. I have an out....text a code so a friend or family call with emergency
I married my best friend from high school. We courted for 10 years before getting married. I feel so blessed and lucky to have a good man as my soul mate. These stories are so scary. You just never know what could happen and I hope these kind of stories are more rare than common.
Good for you!
He’s probably on apps talking to girls lol
When I first met my boyfriend 10 years ago, we "met" on plenty of fish. For the first four or five months I only met him at a coffee shop, he didn't have my phone number, and we only communicated to arrange dates over the dating site. The upside of it though, was that we actually ended up knowing mutual people, so I was able to do a bit of sleuthing to make sure he wasn't, in fact, a psycho. Still it took months before I we actually exchanged phone numbers and a few months after that before I allowed him to come over. You really have to be smart when you choose to online date.
I did too and he was actually my neighbor well 10 mins away and we were friends in fb for months before and had plenty mutual friends ...we were together 3 years and he wasn’t psycho but he wasn’t the one either lol
When he is still your boyfriend and not your husband after 10 years...He is not really into you. He wants his options open. Not a good sign.
He waits probably for his 'dreamgirl' and marries her after a few months.
This kind if men are also dangerous. Because they waste your life, beauty, youth, time...
You are convenient to him.
See youtube video's on this topic.
Tony Gaskins...
R.C.Blakes...
This men know men and women into scary detail. They guide you, how you are never been guided before!
Bless you.
Heide-Raquel Fuss facts. My dad married my mom within two months
@@heide-raquelfuss5580 interesting but not everyone believes in the idea of marriage..you know not everyone grew up dreaming of a wedding 😎 Did they teach that too?
@@shila8379 That was a different Era.🕰️ Don't compare oranges 🍊 with apples 🍎 .
I meet this guy on a free dating website in the US who posted as a medical doctor. We started communicating one day I asked him just out of curiosity “ why are you on a free dating site as a Medical Dr?” He was like I like being simple ok fast forward I looked him up on medical board his name was not there I told him to stop lying and ended the communication. If something is off run away
I dated enough when I was younger, married, divorced... yada yada. Now...I am 40 and happy asf to know I am destined to become an old single crazy cat lady.
🤭💐
Same here and dame happy about it am content and u should be too no drama
Online dating is not what it used to be. Scammers and killers have taken over. It’s best to just try and find someone in person. Don’t get desperate ate. Even in person you can get scammed or be in danger. But at least in the beginning you can meet the person publicly and you can see their behaviour etc. In online they hide behind the net
I suggest that people spend time travelling and getting to on with their life. Online has too many evil people lurking 👀. Be careful.
Me too, exactly :D!
@je suis moi, I say that constantly. Always joked that once I turn 40 I’m just gonna get like 20 cats and become a crazy cat lady. Well I turn 39 next month so I have a year left 😂😂
Unbelievable the cops didn't even try to connect the dots until one of the families put pressure on them to do their job.
It's like a candy store for sexual predators!
People looking for companionship and love...and find theft, rape and/or murder.
So before I go on a date, I have to call 2 friends, drop the location of where we are going, pass by the police station and take a mugshot, walk in areas with CCTV , dial the emergency number and leave it on standby, call my mother and tell her and have my GPS on? If somebody intends to hurt you however, they will no matter how safe you are.
Carry a gun, practice with it, become as one with it, and IF your in danger, use it. You need to have the mentality of a soldier, maybe female soldiers should be teaching self defense classes for women who have accepted the fact they are victims. Your not a victim.
@@JamesSmith-jq2jc the last person who raped me , I stabbed in the neck and made sure they are in prison for over 20 years. Trust me Mr Smith, I do not accept being a victim because I loath pain.
Just don't take ridiculous risks. Don't meet someone "blind." Have safeguards in place always.
@Frank Skoda-Simmons exactly
@@francescawilliams8177 Wow... I am glad that you got justice ❤ You are indeed strong.
This is why I don’t go on dating apps. It’s so convenient for all serial monsters to kill people, or rapist, etc. THESE apps should implement a system, for safety, that who ever sign up, must upload State Id’s or Drivers license (clean record purposes) for the safety of everyone who uses them. Many may argue freedom rights, but what about victims?
There’s a flaw with that too. Unfortunately, we can NEVER really truly know a person. It does not matter where you meet. We hear stories in the news all the time of people that are killed by their spouses of mulitple years and decades that had a clean background and eventually they just snap
Yep...I want to know if they had dv records or have killed anyone.
Some of the killers had a clean records, I think it should be related to their mental health confirmation
@@karentucker2161 you wouldn't know the killing cus some of them haven't been caught on killing yet but you might know bout dv
I don't go on blind dates either. Meeting people through mutual friends or someone playing matchmaker in your life is just weird to me.
People are so desperate for love, that they throw common sense to the wind, and take risks, because they just hope that maybe this one will work out.
Yes...
Let's go ahead and NOT blame this poor woman. She NEVER deserved this and it is HIS FAULT!!!!! NOT HERS!!!
When you blame the victim, you also normalize the action of the perpetrator.
Yep
@@tinmendez4121 You always have your part in it, the choices you make. You can't blame everything on other people.
Why did they let him out in the world after he confessed to his psychiatrist that he’s fantasizing about raping & killing ????????
Because the first weirdos are the psychiatrist. With very few exceptions, most of the people attracted to these fields are very traumatized and abnormal men and women. How on earth someone says that and be let out in the world as you said.
They say they can´t do anything based on thoughts and words, I beg to differ. Anyone who states things of this nature should be jaile, at least as warning tolet them know jail will be their home if ...............lives could have been saved 100´s,if not 1000´s of timesif this were done.
@@j.erickson8571 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Legally, you cannot lock someone up based on their fantasies, think about it. They are laws of the land that must be followed.
Yeah, you can’t alert anyone about a patient who has fantasies about rape and murder. Patient privacy and all that. You can only break that confidentiality if they have a very specific and detailed plan to harm themself or harm someone else. That demonstrates intent to harm.
I'm a dog walker....can't imagine what that lady was thinking who kept finding dead bodies on the walk! I may start taking a different route.
Indeed. But I couldn't stop wondering, why on earth did she walked her dog around tombstones?
I'm sure even the dog was traumatised. : P
you should never take the same route, good for the dog too to get to know all areas. Never ever take the same route unless you have no choice just do it at different times.
Dating online is like Russian Roulette....One never knows, when game over!
She did everything right and one thing WRONG! She went to his Hotel. Never be ALONE. Always stay in Public Places. Strangers are Danger.
Never date someone on the internet, you have no idea who the person is and never go back to their home or hotel
This is why I don't use any dating websites.... it could cost you your life !!!!!
Baby I'll take care u
My cousin met her boyfriend at church. He killed her. The common denominator is men.
How do you know people you meet in person is not the same person who is online?
Actually I have some friends married to people they met online. And happy. It's nor the dating app, it's the evil human. and evils are everywhere, you can meet them anywhere.
EVIL IS EVERYWHERE A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING CAN COME FROM ANYWHERE
The dating sites shouldn’t be responsible for people’s stupidity!! Stop going to a hotel or home with someone you don’t know!!!
Instead of blaming her for "stupidity," how about this: Stop luring women from online dating sites, attacking and strangling them to death after they helped your sad, drunk ass back to the hotel, having sex with her dead body and then taking pictures of the whole mess... **That sounds a bit more realistic I think...
Exactly.
@@doggieworld3652 How many times have you been “lured” from a dating site (use your brains) stop being so trusting!! When your date (stranger) gets drunk.... call him a cab (sorry you’re such an idiot!).
@@elainevankat5353 People should absolutely be safe when online. Frankly however, she did her due diligence letting friends know who she was with and where she went. Unfortunately, all of the precautions in the world can protect you from everyone, 100% of the time. Dating sites should be required to implement background checks for users. It may not help everybody, but it could help some people avoid folks like this.
@@fineandmellow6359 Agree! She did very well... up to a certain point! Going to his hotel room... was her fatal mistake (no one was able to help her at that point). I wouldn’t want to be in a hotel room... with a drunk man!
How in God's name did that police dept not link all of those deaths..what an incredibly incompetent dept
I am sure it’s because of victim blaming.
It's how they keep the murder rate down. They're too quick to accept the drug overdose explanation bc it'll close the case. The second victim with the same link as the first would have alerted anyone with interest in finding out what happened. the first victim was posed in what it was accepted to be a drug overdose, the second is found similarly posed and could be linked to the first. It's not that hard if you're looking or cared.
High risk population are often ignored
Online or not , take everything with a grain of salt 🧂
Looking at him made me sick ta my stomach...truth!!!
Yeah, it was bad. I literally had to look away. Creepy AF
His mask was completely off in that mug shot! Chilling!!!
I thought it was just me!!! I could tell he was a creep from his eyes!
Which him
I am so glad that there was no internet when I was a young adult. I’d probably have never survived.
Father God Thank you for your protection seen and unseen when I explored online dating in the early 2000s. I'm saying Wow as I reflect back to the handful of men I've spoken to and met. I'm reminded of a man that came to see me from New York and me traveling to Washington DC to meet another man. I'm grateful I'm still alive with no story of abuse or near death experiences. I'm glad I've been over online dating for over a decade now.
This case is proof positive why capital punishment should not only be tolerated but expected.
It doesn’t prevent murder
Yep. People who say the death penalty doesn’t prevent crime?
Sure it does. Not one person has killed another after they’ve been given the death penalty. Dead people can’t kill others.
Also there are killers who cross state lines to murder in a state without the death penalty. So the odds of murder are increased.
I personally believe in an island of no return for major crimes but the death penalty will work too.
Unfortunately, the trend in most of the world is to make laws and sentences more flexible, in many cases almost granting more benefits to prisoners than to other citizens (citizens who must also pay for all those benefits). For the victims and their families it is a permanent state of aggression.
@@klarahvar566 This is Canada's 'justice' system. The criminal has MORE rights than the victim does. Mostly because of soft-hearted lawmakers like PM Trudeau who believe criminals are victims and vice versa.
WHY IN THE WORLD WAS HE ALLOWED OUT ON BAIL AFTER THE 1ST MURDER.. AND WHY THE HELL DID THAT NEIGHBOR NOT TURN HIM IN !?!
@YouTubin' I appreciate the clarification, sir or madam
Clearly you did not comprehend the video. Watch it again.
One time I met this man online, and what Surprised me was that He wanted to meet me in Person for the first time in my Place late at Night, like at 10:30 or 11:30 at night. I Said NO, and never communicated with him again. And another one from India, Never Showed his face on the photo, More like his hair and a Side of his face, but never Showed the front of his face and his eyes, He wanted to Meet me for Coffee, but I never did.
"he took a photo with Borris Johnson" well, if that in itself doesn't say psycho murder all over it.......birds of a feather
LMAO.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏
Flock together
8 months for killing 3 men. If that's not a joke, I don't know what is! And he doesn't even serve that! I'm speechless!
Rajesh Adya no he will never get out of prison
Watch it again. He wasn't charged with murder for the first one until later.
Yeah. We can't blame Plenty Of Fish for THAT lack of justice! I'm disgusted he wasn't caught and hung for the first murder.
That is friggin INSANE
Good thing you're speechless so that now you can rewatch the video and recognize he wasn't sentenced to a 8 months for the murders. You're nearly as inept as the police who investigated the first three deaths.
Breaking News: Terrible people, murderers, and serial killers existed well before the internet.
But internet has made the monsters more dangerous because vicinity and direct encounter limits are much diminished!
@@thinkmackay8954 Nah. It's just as dangerous as ever to do dangerous things. Meeting a person in a bar or online makes no difference, you don't know the person either way.
Think Mackay, So what if the internet makes things easier to meet! People still need to use their brains (evil has been around since... the beginning of time!)
What is your point?
they did, indeed. But the internet has far extended their hunting grounds.
His prior friend put it accurately, he really looked like a "creepy old man". In fact, he IS a creepy old man!
This documentary really focused on individuals instead of focusing more in the online dating and the risks derived from it
Ok
That's true, but it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that what happened to those people could happen to anyone on those apps.... but in saying that. Oof... maybe it should have a giant label DONT SO THIS.
I don’t think that them focusing on him having a hotel room ahead of time is relevant to him being a psycho. People get hotels all the time in preparation of what may or may not becoming a sexual encounter. I think they need to focus more on safety when dating strangers.
True
This kind of stuff is why I’m too scared to try online dating.
It seems to me that we, as a society, need to take a long, hard look at how we are conducting ourselves. Our lack of morales are getting us killed.
Exactly!
Precisely my thought👍
It's statistically safer now than ever. You can have strong morals and still be murdered.
@@sarcasticallyrearranged yes, but in that case the possibility is a bit less, however 😅
So is our lack of correct spelling
I am 75 and married my boyfriend at age 18...he was 19....married 56 years, and he is still my boyfriend! I ask this question sincerely.....what is wrong with a person that they can’t get a partner from people they come in contact with in their social circles? Why does someone want to take a chance with someone they never met? I wonder why they can’t find someone that actually knows them. I am not being critical...I truly want to know! Met my husband in April if 65 and married in October 65....as I said 56 years later we are still having fun! Thanks for listening!
It's a result of social media. People stopped doing in-person social circles and shifted to online social circles. They are around people less. After being conditioned into virtual social circles like Facebook and Instagram, the pandemic came and made the American people
shelter in place which eliminated nearly all in-person groups and gatherings.
I came to comment basically what Joanna Ferry did and add to it. The internet has completely changed the way that most people socialize. And then COVID happened in 2020 and that made things even more difficult. The other issue is the realization that the internet aka social media and dating sites have made it so that people can catfish. And so much worse by concealing who they really are. Which is a predators hunting ground.
These days some people dont have friends, family, community, social life
@@dr.mishra8264 So sad! I belonged a youth group, and my now hubby just happened to visit that day! It wasn’t love at first sight, but he intrigued me! So glad I took a chance, and went out with him. What fun getting to know him!
Tools for online dating: 1) background checks 2) Discernment & prayer from God & Jesus Christ. It’s so dangerous & I narrowly escaped being raped from a guy on Tinder that I had been talking to for several months before we met in person. Rip to the lives gone ❤️
I don’t think there’s too much a dating website can do to prevent these things from happening. I think people who use these websites have to be more careful. If you look at the vast majority of cases where someone meets up with a person they meet on this kind of website and is killed by that person... It’s because they went back to the persons house or hotel room. You have to be more responsible and take more caution when meeting someone who ultimately is a stranger. No matter how sick this guy was (he did it to himself by drinking more than he should have) she should not have gone with him to the hotel. She could have waited with him for the taxi and helped him get in and buckled up if she wanted...but that’s as far as she should have gone. Not to his hotel room. Once someone has you either in their vehicle or in their home/hotel, you’re completely at their mercy. And that’s never where you want to end up.
They could be kidnap outside of an establishment as well.....
She did everything someone meeting online safely do, NO SHE DIDNT, what about not meeting at night, not making first date a presumably drinking one, going out with a few friends and the date etc
Go for COFFEE during day and see if you click in a public place
Or how about don't go back to his hotel?
Not getting drunk and going back to the rich mans hotel thinking u would get something out of it would probably help the situation next time
Probably not a good sign of things to come when the person gets shit faced, fall down drunk on the first date. Drop their ass off at the ER and delete their number. Umm gotta go, bye 👋 🏃
Iv dated online from diffrent countries as I travel quiet a bit however I only speak on video call before texting a girl I wish to date. I only meet them after we have known each other for at least 2 weeks over video calls. This actually works great as you can tell if your personalities fit along with the physical attraction. As a rule of thumb, never ever meet anyone you haven't significantly video called with and known. Make sure to have plenty of text messages as a record that anything sexual is consensual before you meet the person in real life or in a different country. In the end nothing is fail proof but at least it can give you a decent idea of who the woman is or if you are a woman a better idea of the man you are getting to know. Also while this may sound sexist if a man doesn't offer to pay on your date or is broke just dont go forward. Real men tend to be established and confident, granted they can still be scummy but at least they have something to loose. People who have something to loose be it reputation or job wise are usually safer to meet up with.
I believe that the first murder has nothing to do with the dating app. He didn't lure her in with a false profile or anything like that, he would have just as well killed his date if he'd met her in a bar, or via a friend. He was a depraved killer and would have killed whether he had a dating app profile or not.
It's not like the second case where the killer used wigs and stuff to lure victims in
Absolutely true!
His profile was false... he presented himself as someone he was not to appear trusting.
Online dating is taking a huge chance of meeting the wrong person. Catfishing happens way too much, and people straight up lie. Old fashioned dating can go wrong too but. If you can get the real info on someone you can do a back ground check. Life is scary as hell.
How safe is dating online? Same as jumping out of a plane without a parachute 🤣
What do you expect POF or other apps to do? It is up to each individual to be safe and make wise decisions. Don't go to private areas with people you don't know.
Very true. Met my boyfriend 9 months ago on POF. We are still dating and I’m still alive.
My 1st date ever turned into a stalker. I'm greatful coz that guy made me cautious.
It happened to me I saw red flags very fast !!!
The girl im dating now has a child with another man, and that man will just sit outside the house in his car. She will leave to come to my house and he randomly texts her asking where she is going and what is she doing. Dude is batshit insane and reminds me of the murderers off these shows😂😂😂
@@staywokecuhh Here's what you do... put some poop in balloons just like you would make a water bombs and throw them at his car the next time he comes to stalk there.
@@louisbloom567 lmao. Thats a great idea, but the prospect of trying to shit in the small hole of a balloon sounds exceptionally messy.
@@staywokecuhh Don't worry! There is a neat trick for that. Have two cups of coffee with a medium bowlful of cheap, spicy instant noodles for breakfast after a night of heavy drinking. Then it should be easier to fill the balloons, i also suggest you use a funnel. Best of luck!:)
I tried one of the dating websites, i met about 12 guys for coffee and i can tell half of them were so weird or controlling and i could have been killed or raped if i continue with one of them!! PS: 4 of them were cops!!
WTF?? It is amazing that Port got caught! The police must have graduated from Acme Academy. Who knows how long it would have took them to catch this guy. Probably Never.
Police doesn’t care about drug addicts, so a lot of times their deaths are brushed under the rug. The psycho might have known that and that’s why he picked that method. I agree though, they were airheads!
I am on a dating app and had started talking to someone who told me they loved me and wanted to marry me within days of talking to me.. I got rid of him and now running across this makes me glad I did.
Never, in a million years, would I get involved with online dating. Ever!!!
Never trust onlign promises . your playing with your life
Your ex is available again in some dating app. Would you date him now?
People should take a photo of their date and say “this is just for my safety, just going to text it to a friend”... if your date is offended by this completely reasonable action, cancel the date.
That’s a good idea....
Smart
Great idea!
As a woman, I would feel offended if a dude asked me to have my picture taken “for safety.” In fact, make or female, that would be the end of the date for me. Sorry, not sorry, but I do feel it’s more than strange to hate a stranger take a picture of me to send to another stranger.
If the workplace isn't safe today...What would make a person believe that online dating is? Is it a "candy coated" new way of human trafficking? They tell you how they perceive themselves to be or look but is it truth? It could mean life or death for some people. Choose your friends wisely.
She should have just dropped him off at the hotel, and left. He drank too much and became ill. Better yet send him into a taxi to the hospital. She entrusted him with a level of trust a stranger does not deserve and took on responsibility that was not hers. This could have been prevented!
I was thinking the same
It’s just way, way, way too easy for predators to find victims online. They’ll always be able to find someone who will take the bait.
As my grandmother advised me! Stay on your path and you will meet someone walking that path!
Sadly, I didn’t remember that until I was divorced twice. I’m walking my path now, no diversions
There is no expectation of privacy, nor truth, online. Personal responsibility? Of course not.
Most psychologists are insane, but, have a believable degree
This is what I said when you do the things that you're supposed to do in your life and fulfill your life you are eventually going to meet someone that should be in your life
Good God. That's scary. My husband and I met on Plenty of Fish (US). We've been married 5 years. This wholeheartedly freaked me out.
I just subscribed to this channel just now..i enjoy watching all kinds of crime shows and solving cases..I hope im not the only one watching this..
Dateing apps are dangerous ..so it doesnt matter ware you meet people...you have to be very careful .never ever go anyware with some one you just meet, never exchange number nor tell them ware you live..never give to much information about yourself or family ..watch your surroundings. And be safe ..
I was on dating sites 9 years ago after my really turbulent divorce. I did want to have a companion , someone to share my free time with . What I saw in there blew my mind . I was 54 at the time . I had young man wanting to have sex with older woman , tons of scammers so easy to recognize that it wasn't even funny , and lots of man who sent pictures of their private parts , older man who had wives, adult kids or grandkids . This made me sick and I was questioning what world we are living in ? What this people teach their kids? How can they teach their kids moral values when they don't have it themselves???
And than the pandemia came and all this dirt and stupidity came to surface. What's not normal became normal .
All I can say I do not envy young people who are in the dating scene. Be smart , be vigilant and plz , no sex on the first date . Give yourself a time and you'll find the person you want to share your life with. Love to all of you ❤.
Love to you too
Remember the old days when they said '' Be careful who you meet in Bars'' Today is a hole new bag of danger.
Wtf is wrong with this Sam Meadows guy telling the most horrific things about what happened to Katie, all the while smiling like a psychopath? It's sickening.
Same thing I said
There's no guarantee that the person you meet at the pub, the disco, or the store, is normal and safe, either!
People need to use common sense no matter where they meet people.
If you go home with someone you don't know, obviously you are putting yourself at risk!
I wouldn't even go to those places to even meet people....
Must be traumatic for that woman who found a dead person twice on the same spot.
I have been on so many dates with men I met online. I stopped after the last one, which was almost 3 years ago. I think I was drugged. I woke up on this stranger's couch and I had no idea where I was. I had to call an Uber to get back to the last place I was to get my car. I was over 20 miles away from my car and didn't remember leaving the restaurant. It was pretty scary!
That is actually horrifying!
Don't be a doormat. Have standards and don't settle. When I wasn't looking for anyone, that's when I founded a relationship..
My heart goes out to these families and the dog walker.
Wow this is so sad, truly heartbreaking. May she RIP.
What is wrong with these police? Shameful really. God rest these poor young men 😕
My thoughts Exactly
A very good reason to why one should never date online. One never really knows who a person is. Very sad for this you g woman and her family.
If a man drank so much to the point of vomiting on the first date...I’d leave I’m in the bar. People be smart when you go on ANY date !! Meet in day light where there’s lots if people na d give yourself a rule.....NEVER kiss on the first date. That’s my number one rule. It shows the mans demeanour when you don’t. If he’s an ass. NO 2nd date.... end of story.
Agree with this totally
Dog walker talking to her dog,,,,,,,,,,,"Ok Fluffy lets go on our dead man walk"
😂😂 "NIIICCe fluffy.."
Horrible ... really
LoL.
😂🤣😫😫😫😫 too soon🤦🏾♀️
@@darkcontinentschild2962 Too soon ? I hate when i do that
Sorry in advance for the long comment. I'm an American and met an East Yorkshire Englishman through Facebook. We both were part of an online group. He friend requested me and after doing some "vetting" of my own, I found him to be an alright guy... so I thought. We messaged, talked on the phone, and videoed chatted.
He "love-bombed" the shit out of me, and of course, me being an American, fell for his "English gentleman ways". He then decided to fly over to meet me in America (red flag #1. knowing for 5 weeks and him wanting to meet me so fast) I had to drive to pick him up at the airport, and I told my family and friends where I'd be and what hotel we were staying at for the night before coming back to my place. Might I add, he also met my family and friends.
It was a whirlwind "romance" that quickly changed in a matter of four months. (Red flag #2) Once he said he would come to America to live with me, then it was, "Well, I can't because I have a criminal record for fighting back in Uni. So, getting a visa would be too hard." (Red flag #3) He had a few scars on his forehead that he kept covering with bangs/fringe. I asked him about it and he said it was from fighting and he didn't want to talk about it. He rarely talked about his family and had ZERO desire to ever living in England again. One thing that turned me off, was that he said he wasn't proud to be English. With me being American, we are very prideful people. So, it took me aback. I also noticed whilst he was here he left me to walk to a pub down the street. He always had to have a couple of beers every night or at least every other. I would question him about it (I rarely drank) and his response was "I'm English, haha!"
He left and we met up again in Boston before Covid hit hard, and he was the same way. Always had to go out and I asked him "we have four days together, can't we just stay in and enjoy each other?" He went to go work in AUS on a working visa and "fell in love with it" and dropped me like a hot potato.
I see all of the red flags now and feel so stupid for not being seeing them, but I guess love is truly blind. We are obviously no longer together (I finally pulled the plug this September) after being long-distance, him treating me like an option rather than a priority, and avoiding me. Looking back now, I'm glad he was only a narcissist and not a serial killer. If it's too good to be true, it usually is.
If they don't talk about their friends or family, being so secretive...WALK AWAY Huge Red Flag! Thankful you are SAFE Now! It is scary out there on these dating sites...
I'm happy you ended up dumping his ass. You honestly did nothing wrong for trusting a person that seemed trustworthy. It only shows you're a nice human being and you projected your niceness to him. Usually, people who are too suspicious of others are a) either deeply traumatised by people exploiting or abusing them, or b) the assholes themselves, and because of that, they expect others to be as backstabbing as they themselves are.
Red flags can only be properly seen in hindsight, when a level of distance has been achieved. The important thing is to learn from those red flags for the future.
I hope you are safe and healthy :)
@@hypatiaserena5695
It is so true!
I don't get the point of your story. Guy wasn't dangerous.
@@annettegenovesi4012 define dangerous - cluster Bs will take you down on every level if allowed. Getting unhooked is literally more difficult than. Getting off heroine - many don’t make it because of the souk crushing pain. So again , define dangerous
Thinking about the times i went on dates through apps made me scared.
This why I stay divorced, after leaving my abusive ex spouse. I did try online dating too many scammers, liars,gold diggers,pompous,narcissistic, and talk about freaks. Nah, I'm good. Better to be alone, then trying to be a constant detective. Did that with the ex. This way I know my finances,what I have,and how I'll spend it, where my car is at,and whose in it,me 😊. I lean to God, to give me peace and comfort a man can't give. Technology today, makes to easy to pump and dump,if women allow it.
I've met a fee platonic friends on dating sites but no relationship
Poor dog walker, finding 2 bodies in the cemetery. The cops should have investigated this much sooner.
If a person goes on a first time date with a stranger and that unknown stranger tells his date he is sick can you please take me back home I would tell that person you'll call them a taxi and wait in public for their transportation. You can't really trust people
Online and not online is the same. You can also meet a murderer at work, at groups by friends, on restaurants and so on
Safe dating sites should have background checks, check for criminal, verify employment, check social media
Why doesn't this exist!?
@Red Mage just meet for coffee. And if you get killed, well hell, we gotta lower the overpopulation! Of course rich singles can afford to pay extra to get a dating site where people have been vetted. So at least the rich will be ok.
Exactly ..
Things have changed .✨
@vicky a great business idea
Carl set that up from the start. Dam poor Katie
Exactly! I believe he did...
Yep he disarmed her by drinking to excess. Most decent people would try to help first, they’ll push away the blaring red flags in that situation. The fact that he booked the hotel beforehand is some proof too of premeditation...
Moral of the story is don't ever go back to someone's hotel room or house on a first date if they get drunk.
Don’t trust anyone until you really get to know a person, which takes time. If you get a bad vibe about anything about a person or situation you need to TRUST it.
First date performances like that don’t deserve any help. Run hard in the other direction. Never, never go to a guys hotel room when you are strangers. What the hell!? She was way too trusting, to the point of stupidity and she paid the ultimate price. Truly sorry for her and her family.❤️🙁