If you are dating someone and you break up and he immediately starts sleeping with your mother, moves in, essentially becoming your step-daddy it's a pretty good indicator that you shouldn't leave your child in the care of that person or your mother. So gross. The entire thing.
The mother is a grown adult and she decided to have the relationship and betray her daughter, the daughter only concern was to her child and that’s where she failed.
So the grandmother dated her daughter's creepy ex who is totally unsuitable to her, allowed him to move in without having a job, knowing anything about his history, with a kid in the house?? what are these people doing to their children??
Who knows the daughter and the killer were still having sexual relationship and it was alright with the mother or grandmother or vice versa. And the only way to keep him is to allow him to have Tia. I know this is insane but both adult ladies are twisted. The mother involving herself with her daughter's ex, and Tia's mother allowing her to live in that house. 3 of them sick!
They did look once actually, however they "didn't want to break anything" so they half-assed the search. I heard in another documentary that the dogs they brought in to search the house were also sniffing/signaling up towards the ceiling, but the police, I guess, decided that it would have been too much of an inconvenience to bring the dogs up on the attic to sniff around there as well.. Plus it was a big dog which apparently made it even more inconvenient.. Ridiculous.
@@HoshiMiddayDelusion Yeah, even if you didn’t mean it like that w/ regard to Tia, you might want to just rephrase ur statement. It just sounds so wrong. We all know she didn’t have a say in who her family surrounded & “shared” her with.
I heard in another documentary that the dogs actually sniffed up towards the ceiling during the searches but for whatever reason, the police decided that there probably wasn't anything up there so they never took the dogs up to sniff the attic as well.. Plus, apparently it was a large dog so taking it up to the attic would have been too much of an inconvenience, I guess..
The profile picture y’all see with my screen name is just a little over a year old & I’m less than a month away from turning 40 ( next month ) & I’m NOT trying to toot my own horn BUT I SHOULD look older because I am older YET I KNOW I DEFINITELY look younger than he does. What’s the point in my saying this??! I mentioned this because guilt of your bad deeds will age the living heck out of you!!!!! 😡🤬😓😢💔😭
@@somethingaboutbeauty8245 ok but you do mean to toot your own horn bc if wasnt trying to toot your own horn than you would have used something or someone else for a example.....then your user name is something about beauty which tells me that you probably toot your own horn more than a normal person would. And you using your profile pic as a example also tells me that you are wanting someone else to toot your horn also ..maybe you want someone else to say that yes for 40 you do look better than this guy...which isnt saying much bc anyone can look better this giy. But if thats what your going for then im sure theres someone out there that will tell you that you for sure look better than this guy here.
@@harleyhendrix9636 dude it's not that deep.....I was just pointing something out and please don't act like you've never said anything that someone else took out of context.....like what you did here. Again, NOT that deep. Have a great weekend. *=0)*
Why was this felon so trusted when he literally jumped from dating Tai’s mother to dating her grandmother. The man clearly has no boundaries and The granddaughter wasn’t off limits either.
Clearly Hazel was infatuated with Tai when he was living with her mother and he decided that he wanted to stay close to Tai so he ingratiated himself into grandmother's life. It's unfortunate that mother's and grandmother's radars were defective but I cannot fault them for that. This Hazel guy is either a sociopath or psychopath and it is well documented that they are able to manipulate and pretend to have feelings when they have none. How do you think Ted Bundy et al were able to murder so many people? There is only one person to blame here: Hazel.
My daughter is just turning twenty and maybe I would consider dating, but my perception is definitely affected by most of my mother's boyfriends would make passes towards me, and she wouldn't believe me.
When I was around 10 my mom left me with her sisters husbands dad for a few hours. I was trying to fall asleep when I felt him sit down on the bed and was trying to touch me. I yelled at him to leave me alone (I guess his wife wasn’t aware or even hear me??) and went downstairs to where my 11 year old brother was sleeping the couch. I never told anyone about it because I was afraid of the reaction of my mom & aunt and especially my uncle whose dad it was. Years later I found out he had been doing this to my cousin who lived in the same city and saw him way more often 😞.
Nicole, I understand what you're saying and your children are blessed to have you as their mother but please remember this: not everyone is evil, not everyone wants to harm you or your children. One day you might need their help and if you cast them aside because you don't trust them around your children, that might do more harm than good because you'll not have anyone helping you. Do be careful about who you surround yourself with but don't cast everyone aside.
@@whosaidthat4299 That's messed up. I trust my child over anyone. FREE ADVICE! When you have kids, I wouldn't trust them with your mother. Just a sugestion.
The family didnt think he was a predator when he went from daughter to mother? is that the norm? Then for the grandmom even allowing that to happen? They are all predators if u ask me. just sick!
@josh hopper She knew he was a felon?! I assumed she was in a relationship with him and let him move on he basis that she had no idea of his criminal past.. this is just horrible
The fact is he dated the mum, didn't work out but he still wanted access to Tia, so he dated her grandmother and subtly barges his way into the family. It's sickening. Tia trusted and loved him, and he betrayed her, in the worst possible way.
I'd rather stay alone all my life than live with a man like that. Why do women have to be so desperate as to settle with any criminal? Granny dating daughter's ex? And they didn't seem to wonder why he wants to spend alone time with a 12 years old girl who was not related to him? Those two women should take responsibility for Tia's demise as well. No sane person leaves their young child with a career criminal!
The only thing to say is the fact he was a granny grabber maybe te family thought he couldn't possibly be interested in kids. Just goes to show how manipulative this evil man was.
I heard the grandmother say “what happened in Stuart’s past, that’s none of my business” and I always think “it WAS Tia’s business though!” For the love of God. 💔💔💔
Apparently the body was incredibly well wrapped in plastic, extensive amounts of tape and fabric, and it wasn't until a week later in the stifling heat that the smell was apparent. I can't blame the dog. For the police to do a house search in the case of a missing child and not check the loft? Yet they found a tiny memory card behind a door frame downstairs which held the horrific photos of Tia after death. I know nothing about policing, but I believe there was an awful lot of man power in this case, and they couldn't get their heads together and say we must check the loft.
It could have been an honest mistake. Maybe he saw Tai leaving another day and mixed the days up, it happens. It's unfortunate that the authorities put so much faith in what the neighbour said. Once they saw all the cctv footage and they did not see Tai anywhere on camera, they just ignored the neighbour's claim. It happens all the time when horrible crimes are committed, people want to help and sometimes they get their signals crossed - it's up to the authorities to be able to discern fact from fiction which is why some murders are so difficult to solve if they ever get solved.
Sadly they are typical of the underclass we have in the UK. Social services should have been more involved, Tia never stood a chance in a dysfunctional set up like that.
To hear one of my grandchildren call me grandad is the sweetest gift a man can receive. It is an honour and a privilege to have a child call you Grandad, an honour and a privilege this monster (for he is not worthy of being labelled a man) neither earned nor deserved and if there is such a thing as eternal damnation I hope this monster gets to experience it.
One in 3 little girls is sexually abused. Some of them were called grand dad too because in 84 out of grandparent 95 cases it is grandpa and a grand daughter, and she wasn't living at his house but an overnight guest. I looked it up.
38 Years ? Another Woke sentence from a Uk 🇬🇧 court..BRING BACK HANGING NOW ..AS THE BRITISH TAXPAYERS WILL NOT PAY FOR SCUM LIKE HIM AND OTHERS TO SURVIVE AND MURDER AGAIN ..EVER
@Gary Hill thank u for sure being a great grandad unlike this predator. I also caught my ex husband molesting my 5 year old grandson which was is stepgrandson..so thus is disqusting.
what a dirty evil bastard, i ee the police was doing a thorugh search. even i would, look everywhere especially the loft, the police involved should all be sacked , they searched the house 4 times, my god probably too long going after hate speech and even stupider things
@@williamwhitcombe6487 Because that same Lord never said planet earth is paradise, TRY READING AN ACTUAL BIBLE. Again and again God warns us of sin, That same God gave you the option of believing in Him or not, we are not puppets..it's amazing how people like you blame a God you don't believe in.
38 Years ? Another Woke sentence from a Uk 🇬🇧 court..BRING BACK HANGING NOW ..AS THE BRITISH TAXPAYERS WILL NOT PAY FOR SCUM LIKE HIM AND OTHERS TO SURVIVE AND MURDER AGAIN ..EVER
Tia's mom and grandmother are sick. How could they leave Tia in the "care" of this criminal?! They are also responsible for Tia's death. The poor sweet girl, may her soul rest in peace.
@Kim Choo - This guy was a psychopath or sociopath. How do you think all these guys get away with murdering women, children, etc.? They pretend to be normal people. I know for a fact because I lived with a psychopath for over 13 years and they definitely can pull the wool over anyone's eyes. You cannot blame the parents or grandmother of this poor child, the man was a fake and never let his guard down. So how could they even possibly think that he had anything to do with it? Please refrain from blaming the family, the true monster here is Hazel and no one else.
@@therealmccoy9687 uh no they still didn’t know him well. He had shown MANY signs of being a person with questionable character. They should have never left that child with him so yes they should be blamed.
Did he say he was born in 1975!? He looks like he could have had a child born that year. Severe alcoholism ages people to a shocking degree, but this is an extraordinarily bad case!
right?! i swear i’m having a Mandela effect right now because i’ve heard this case many times before, but i remember them saying he was in his 50’s when retelling it, not his mid 30s!
He was only with the mum 2 weeks, I guarantee he started dating the grandmother to continue to have access to poor Tia til he could make his move....diabolical.
I think that she found out that he was filming her... She was disgusted by it, perhaps told him she will tell on him... So he murdered her to keep everything in his own. I don't think that he planned on murdering her, because he would have a plan to get rid of everything that could link him to her murder. That's just a sociopath... Those people never need a huge reason for doing something wrong.
Yeah, the typical caothic person. Quite impulsedriven and that he hid her body in the house where most with average intellect would realise it would start to smell and be discovered also display a lack of ability of planning for forseable consequences.
@@campar1043 THEY DID ULTIMATELY . HOWEVER , WHEN THE CHILD WAS MISSING AT THE ONSET OR BEGINNING OF THE INVESTIGATION , THE POLICE DID NOT SEARCH WITH DOGS 🐕 INSIDE THE GRANDMOTHER’S HOUSE WHERE THE CHILD LIVED . THEY ONLY INTERVIEWED THE “KILLER” WHO WAS KNOWN AS THE GRANDFATHER (BUT NOT BLOOD RELATED ) AND THE LITTLE GIRLS GRANDMOTHER.
I was really really really picky of who I left my child with. My mother my father my brother. That's it. And was lucky enough to have the advantage to be a stay-at-home mother.
Yeah but you have those small percent who are put away because someone in the system doesn't like them or false confession. That is the only reason why I am against it. Mostly. I do think it is possible to prove some without a doubt and they should be drawn and quartered.
@UpNorth I honestly do not understand why we do not have a lot of homeless serial killers considering life in prison is way better than the streets. Hell let one of your homies die and say you did it even. Just a thought that popped in my head when you said what you said.
@UpNorth I don't know about cushy, but besides wrongful convictions, the main issue is those on death row have nothing to lose and therefore no reason not to hurt or kill others in prison. A death sentence creates desperation and punishes not only the individual, but those around them.
The child's mother dated him first, then her grandmother. But you're correct when you stated, and I quote, yuck. I wouldn't get with anyone who had been with my offspring, or someone their age. Simply eww-resistable.
@jacqueline alicea - It's very easy to make snap judgements when you're not directly involved in the incident, it's a human response. However, blaming the family is wrong in every sense of the word. People want to believe in the goodness of others and if they are good people, it is very difficult for them to recognize evil when they are constantly manipulated. How do you think Ted Bundy and all of those other serial killers were able to kill so many? Because they are not human and they are masters at pretending to be human. Please refrain from blaming the family, the only person to blame is the Hazel and only Hazel.
Disgusting not discussing and even tho u are right about dating anyone that’s with your mother the situation here was different she dated someone that was with her child 1st
What's the point of your comment? Do you disagree with what I wrote or agree? Please clarify. To answer your question: Yes this struck a nerve with me because my own child was diagnosed with psychopathic tendencies at 4 years of age and I found out the hard way about how psychopaths are pure evil, they pretend to have human feelings when their condition prevents them from having any feelings for anyone but themselves. So yes, it struck a nerve because my child was born this way and we did nothing to create it, we just had to find ways to cope and deal with it and we got blamed by people who did not know the specifics of our child's history and I'm tired of parents being blamed.
I'm horrified, with many others, how a police force can go into the home of missing young girl once much less THREE times and not look in the attic. That is inexcusable. How in the Hell weren't they tailing him from day one? Wow. This should be used as a how NOT to investigate.
Right. If you’re doing a house search, why tf would you look everywhere but not the attic. I mean why would a murderer hide a dead body in the bedroom or the bathroom? Thats just stupid.
don't be so demanding: this is England. After all, they searched the correct house 3 times. And getting into the Attic is a bit of a hassle and might turn into work. Do you want the cops to break a sweat?
Welcome to the corrupt and incompetent world of British policing, our police resources seem to be funnelled into the police now crossing over into civil work and making sure people are paying …. Fines 🤷🏼🥴
@@jodifoster9820 yes anyone could have done better, if you search a house you search the loft, obvious, not obvious to the woke police though, mostly they are to busy arresting someone for saying assoles
from what I've seen of Tias mother, she seemed very vulnerable. i do not understand why her grandmother would date her daughters ex partner though. that is kind of fucked up. Rest in peace, Tia. we would be the same age today.
Many mothers struggle to understand what is and is not appropriate in relations with their daughters’ partners. My own mother betrayed me with my ex-husband. Not physically/sexually, but emotionally. She attempted to become his roommate after I moved out of our home during our separation. I have forgiven her and moved on for my own sake but I will never forget that her boundaries are not where they should be when it comes to men, and they never have been.
TIA was the target from the beginning. How naive do you have to be to not suspect his intentions when he started to date gramma. No excuses from the two women involved will ever be enough. Ladies stop bringing these creepy men into your children's lives and making them bait for perverts.
I agree. However, women who are willing to date these creeps themselves, don't exactly have the discernment that they should, in relation to proper parenting!
I cannot understand how someone allows a child to stay with someone involved in drugs, alcohol and with an extensive criminal record. That said, for these perverted criminals it is not only wrong that they are given the possibility of a minimum sentence to be served, but the death penalty should be applied.
Never say that, you might think you are the smartest but the reality is , it had to happen that way.worst scenarios can befall on you my dear, so never say that, you are not smart enough to talk like that.
@@johnydyson I know that there is no death penalty in the UK and that it is very difficult for them to pass a sentence for natural life, the same happens where I live, but it is my belief that it should be considered in such serious crimes.
Three searches of the home.....WITH DOGS? And we had to wait a week 'til the August heat and being stored in an attic finally gave Tia's whereabouts away? It's a good thing no one had the sniffles. A big FAIL on Police work.
I’m really wondering if he killed her in another location and after the home had been checked 3x that he then moved her to the attic believing he was in the clear.
So he knew the baby since she was 3.. watched her grow up, helped take care of her. And then did this. I’m going to throw up for like 24 hours straight. That baby girl is happy now and safe is all I can comfort myself with after hearing this.
So it took the police 4 searches before they thought to look in the loft , and even the forensics doing a thorough search didn’t bother to look in the loft. Great work 👏🏻
The grandmother took her daughter is ex into her house. And decided to leave her grandchild with this guy. The grandmother needs to serve time as well.
The US wouldn’t and doesn’t even charge them for lying and making false statements so I’m shocked the UK did. Who knows if the man did see her and he killed her after and took her back to the house after it was searched.
the most sickening scene is him walking with his head down wearing the missing persons shirt like you have to be a real psycho to even do some shit like that, he has his head down because he knows he’s the reason she is missing, you can’t trust people seriously
From the daughter, then to the mother, with the aim finally getting to the grandaughter. How or why we may never know. But he does. Blaming it on his early life is no excuse. He was accountable about what he did, not what happened to him in his early life...
Exactly 💯 No morals,no principles, no self respect, no nothing with this family. Absolutely disgraceful. Poor child had no chance ,especially if these are what was ment to teach and nurture this child. These women are just as much to blame . This guy is disgusting... Evil sick ,no excuse ever to justify any of what he did. Whole thing is just shocking!
Very light, if i made laws that sentence would be hard labour for life, and torture authorized on a daily basis, so for me even death is to light a sentence
So do I get this right? He was involved with Tias mother then switched to the Grandma then eventually developes a twisted fetish for the Granddaughter and the only one who could not give him consensual sex?
Yes, I had to go back and check because I thought maybe I hadn't underestood.... where were Child Protection Services in all this? And the neighbours and her schoolfriends.... surely someone thought it was abnormal and should be reported?
It's fucking weird but it was 2 weeks guys not months or years...it wasn't much of a relationship. Don't exaggerate. I can see how after a bit the mom would be like k whatever...you have to realize, these predators are MASTER MANIPULATORS it's a fucking craft!
So grandma's in prison and mom thinks it would be a good idea to send her daughter to her ex boyfriend (grandma's current boyfriend) for the night...this poor little girl never had a chance.
Sick of those who commit horrific crimes justifying those crimes because of their past. They need to be eliminated. In the worst way. Crimes like this would greatly decrease. The sick and guilty have more rights than the innocent.
WTF were these people thinking letting such a weirdo creep into their lives and to be alone with a 12 year old girl, how could neither of them have picked up bad vibes from this sick person.
I "Loved" her to pieces like my own daughter. Umm he is speaking about her in the past tense. They do these interviews so well that they just keep talking and yep they end up messing up and you can just tell they are guilty.
IT IS SCARRY TO HAVE CLOSE RELATIVES COMMIT A CRIME. THAT IS WHY THE POLICE 👮♀️ ALWAYS INTERROGATE THE FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS FIRST WHEN THERE IS A CRIME
The morning of the day they found the body was the first time the grandmother noticed the smell :'( she apparently tried cleaning the whole kitchen looking for what smelled. Just awful beyond comprehension, knowing by that evening she would have realized she was smelling the corpse of her grandbaby.
It's no way i would've trusted my mother's judgement after she slept with my ex... My child ain't going many places, definitely wouldn't go there.. If he's willing to sleep with your mother, he's willing to sleep with your daughter... Rip baby...
Tia hadn't been found yet, but in one interview, me and my sister and parents were watching it and we all immediately picked up on his use of the word "was". I don't know about the rest of the country but we knew
How in the world did the police search 4 times and never find her body?! Now even the dogs detected?? Why wouldn’t they have searched the attic before?! This is absolutely ridiculous and it seems that the whole police department was incompetent
They wouldn't have searched the attic at first. When someone is initially missing (she wasn't suspected to have been dead at first) it's normal to check the whole house but only really places you'd expect a child to be, so not necessarily places like the attic or behind Bath panels etc. The police obviously don't go to every missing person report expecting them to have been murdered and concealed somewhere in the property
@@damianstages442 thy should have been strung up , maybe if they spent more time doing police work instead of sitting in front of computers, looking to find anyone who has offended someone, they might solve a case one day
It's certainly not the worst murder case I've heard of, not even the worst case of child abuse... but for some reason this one just shook me to my core. Maybe because he's just such a putrid, evil, cowardly bastard. And Tia seemed like a particularly lovely human.
Listen,my mom and I don't have the best relationship but my mother would never date anyone I was in a relationship with...it just would never happen. This whole situation is just sick. This poor child. My Thoughts are with this sweet Angel in Heaven. Prayers for her family
Thank goodness these killers are not aware of the fact that micro expressions and body language will bury you. I’ve studied this and I am always happy that the egos of killers get them caught.
Ayoo. The level of incompetence is staggering. I was thinking , "how are the dogs incompetent as well" but they signaled a cadaver so it goes right back to the humans in control
Why are so many men pervs for young children? Why is it always the uncle? And why aren't the other adults ever aware of their inclinations? The only real remorse Hazell has is that he got caught.
Ya know I wonder the same thing... I can understand some crimes (not that I want to commit but they make sense) murder out of passion, bank robbing, stuff like that... but crimes against children really, truly don't make any sense to me at any level.
I think that to myself ALL THE TIME!! it makes me sad/angry everytime!!! I am scared for my children.. I dont care that I am a helicopter mom! Thats the only way I feel like they will be safe
Statistically there are way more sexual deviants and predators among males than females. Don’t ask me why...And they are very good in hiding their true intentions. Many are married, have biological children and are considered to be good fathers. It took investigators 12 years to figure out Chikatilo.
There are a ton of female predators out there as well preying on young children. Put yourself in the shoes of someone like Stuart though. Why would you ever make it obvious about your desires? You wouldn't act up in front of other people, you would clearly wear your "mask" to pretend to be normal among others. That's what these people do. They would never make others aware of their true intentions because it would interfere with their actions.
38 years will drag by. Haunted by his evil deeds and 3 times they searched the house with the loft hatch In plain sight is beyond ridiculous. Shame on the police.
So...they're just gonna ignore the memory card evidence? I believe he has done this before and got away with it. Hopefully there is still jailhouse justice and he won't have to wait to die naturally.
DO YOU MEAN TO STATE THE MURDERER WAS TEN YEARS YOUNGER THAN TIAS GRANDMOTHER? Hazell looks 65 years of age. DRUGS AND ALCOHOL 🍺 TAKE S TOLL ON SOMEONE’S APPEARANCE .
@@yoliecuatorianaporvida3040 Yeah, the narrator says he's 10 years younger than Tia's grandma - he was 37 when he was arrested, making Tia's grandma 47. Tia was 12, so her mom had to have been...18?
Ya they do that a lot in the UK be a it means they get a house and get child support from the government for them and the kids they have. I lived there for 6 years. It was quite common to see young girls with kids especially the poor ones.
The part about adding stuff in to sound truthful scares the f out of me as an anxious person I go way into too much detail about stuff. If I was ever in this guy's situation I would be screwed
What horrified me the most was the family having to look at that photo in the courtroom and trying to imagine how that must have felt. Such a sickening story, i have no words. Rest in peace Tia
From watching many crime shows, some people like to inject themselves into the investigation. It’s either attention seeking behaviour or they’re trying to get information from the police about the case because they’re getting the info for the killer or they themselves are the killer. And sometimes it could be police pressure - police are desperate to find the killer or have a suspect and get tunnel vision. This is when they’re so focused on one suspect they fit the evidence to him to get a conviction.
Some people imagine stuff when under pressure or question their own judgment specially that it has been circulating around the media and the neighbourhood that she went off on that street, so probably he saw another kid and he was like yes that was her.
Been thinking bout this alittle. I'm convinced he was doing her thing w/her as well + she was n his house while they were questioning him. After he sent them off n the wrong direction on a wild goose chase. Thats when he went next door & hid the body n the attic.
I wonder if Stuart Hazel had a word with the neighbour,saying something like,’ you know me mate,you know I love Tia like my own,you know I’d never hurt her,but the media are starting to say I’m a suspect. I can’t prove I didn’t do it,but you know me,you know I’d never touch her,I love her like my own. Look do me a favour and help me out,say you saw her,it will get these bastards off my back and make em concentrate on the real killer etc So maybe the neighbour did it out of a misplaced sense of loyalty,thinking that he was 100000% innocent and it was wrong of the media to suspect him
In my opinion, an innocent person's first inclination would be to immediately call for help, if someone was injured or had died by accident, not where they should hide the body...
If you are dating someone and you break up and he immediately starts sleeping with your mother, moves in, essentially becoming your step-daddy it's a pretty good indicator that you shouldn't leave your child in the care of that person or your mother.
So gross. The entire thing.
So true. My god!!
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Oh, my...I was about to post the same sentiment. You nailed it. He was only interested in Tia, not her mother or grandmother.
The mother is a grown adult and she decided to have the relationship and betray her daughter, the daughter only concern was to her child and that’s where she failed.
Agree ! Creepy and sleezy from the beginning...I can't imagine what she ( grandmother _mother) was thinking 😝🤤
So the grandmother dated her daughter's creepy ex who is totally unsuitable to her, allowed him to move in without having a job, knowing anything about his history, with a kid in the house?? what are these people doing to their children??
Damage
Exactly, the little girl was left alone with this career criminal creep.
Ew...just, ew.
Slags .... both of them.
Who knows the daughter and the killer were still having sexual relationship and it was alright with the mother or grandmother or vice versa. And the only way to keep him is to allow him to have Tia. I know this is insane but both adult ladies are twisted. The mother involving herself with her daughter's ex, and Tia's mother allowing her to live in that house. 3 of them sick!
Searching the house three times and not even looking in the attic?? WTF
They did look once actually, however they "didn't want to break anything" so they half-assed the search. I heard in another documentary that the dogs they brought in to search the house were also sniffing/signaling up towards the ceiling, but the police, I guess, decided that it would have been too much of an inconvenience to bring the dogs up on the attic to sniff around there as well.. Plus it was a big dog which apparently made it even more inconvenient.. Ridiculous.
I was just going to post that same damn question. Wtffffff
what about the smell?
i know ,right!!!! like WTF
There had to be a smell in that attic. Obviously they didn't do a thorough search. Doesn't make any sense.
Something was wrong with her family too, especially the grandmother!
Especially ALL of them really. Weren’t there enuf men 2 go around that 3 generations of these women had to share the same low life?!
Desperate
@@jayesimond9301 did you just include Tia in the "sharing"?
@Zsuzsanna Varga Tia didn't have any say in the matter.
@@HoshiMiddayDelusion Yeah, even if you didn’t mean it like that w/ regard to Tia, you might want to just rephrase ur statement. It just sounds so wrong. We all know she didn’t have a say in who her family surrounded & “shared” her with.
They searched the house 3 times and never checked the attic.. horrible investigation work
Cops did check the attic however it was small and cops didn’t want to break anything - they literally walked over her
@@mysticdragonwolf89: But couldn't smell a decaying body.....hmm...
@@joywilkins64 They probably had a spot of tea upon arriving at the residence, the aroma could have masked the smell.
I heard in another documentary that the dogs actually sniffed up towards the ceiling during the searches but for whatever reason, the police decided that there probably wasn't anything up there so they never took the dogs up to sniff the attic as well.. Plus, apparently it was a large dog so taking it up to the attic would have been too much of an inconvenience, I guess..
Right on!!
Dude is the oldest looking 37 year old man I've ever seen.
That’s what drug and alcohol does to man’s body . He looks 30 years older .
I thought he was 65
The profile picture y’all see with my screen name is just a little over a year old & I’m less than a month away from turning 40 ( next month ) & I’m NOT trying to toot my own horn BUT I SHOULD look older because I am older YET I KNOW I DEFINITELY look younger than he does.
What’s the point in my saying this??! I mentioned this because guilt of your bad deeds will age the living heck out of you!!!!! 😡🤬😓😢💔😭
@@somethingaboutbeauty8245 ok but you do mean to toot your own horn bc if wasnt trying to toot your own horn than you would have used something or someone else for a example.....then your user name is something about beauty which tells me that you probably toot your own horn more than a normal person would. And you using your profile pic as a example also tells me that you are wanting someone else to toot your horn also ..maybe you want someone else to say that yes for 40 you do look better than this guy...which isnt saying much bc anyone can look better this giy. But if thats what your going for then im sure theres someone out there that will tell you that you for sure look better than this guy here.
@@harleyhendrix9636 dude it's not that deep.....I was just pointing something out and please don't act like you've never said anything that someone else took out of context.....like what you did here. Again, NOT that deep. Have a great weekend. *=0)*
Why was this felon so trusted when he literally jumped from dating Tai’s mother to dating her grandmother. The man clearly has no boundaries and The granddaughter wasn’t off limits either.
SO DOISFTIURBing
Clearly Hazel was infatuated with Tai when he was living with her mother and he decided that he wanted to stay close to Tai so he ingratiated himself into grandmother's life. It's unfortunate that mother's and grandmother's radars were defective but I cannot fault them for that. This Hazel guy is either a sociopath or psychopath and it is well documented that they are able to manipulate and pretend to have feelings when they have none. How do you think Ted Bundy et al were able to murder so many people? There is only one person to blame here: Hazel.
So wierd
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plus he's obviously just some shifty tweaker.
yuck, they show his piece of shit face way too much in this
This is why I don't trust anyone with my children. This is SICK.
My daughter is just turning twenty and maybe I would consider dating, but my perception is definitely affected by most of my mother's boyfriends would make passes towards me, and she wouldn't believe me.
When I was around 10 my mom left me with her sisters husbands dad for a few hours. I was trying to fall asleep when I felt him sit down on the bed and was trying to touch me. I yelled at him to leave me alone (I guess his wife wasn’t aware or even hear me??) and went downstairs to where my 11 year old brother was sleeping the couch. I never told anyone about it because I was afraid of the reaction of my mom & aunt and especially my uncle whose dad it was. Years later I found out he had been doing this to my cousin who lived in the same city and saw him way more often 😞.
Nicole, I understand what you're saying and your children are blessed to have you as their mother but please remember this: not everyone is evil, not everyone wants to harm you or your children.
One day you might need their help and if you cast them aside because you don't trust them around your children, that might do more harm than good because you'll not have anyone helping you.
Do be careful about who you surround yourself with but don't cast everyone aside.
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@@whosaidthat4299 That's messed up. I trust my child over anyone. FREE ADVICE! When you have kids, I wouldn't trust them with your mother. Just a sugestion.
The family didnt think he was a predator when he went from daughter to mother? is that the norm? Then for the grandmom even allowing that to happen? They are all predators if u ask me. just sick!
Same question, they failed her.
Right on!!
@josh hopper She knew he was a felon?! I assumed she was in a relationship with him and let him move on he basis that she had no idea of his criminal past.. this is just horrible
@josh hopper this was a weird situation from the beginning.. what have they done to this poor child?!
That’s exactly what my thoughts were!!
The fact is he dated the mum, didn't work out but he still wanted access to Tia, so he dated her grandmother and subtly barges his way into the family. It's sickening. Tia trusted and loved him, and he betrayed her, in the worst possible way.
Yes, that's probably the only reason he dated the grandmother...the get close to Tia.
I'd rather stay alone all my life than live with a man like that. Why do women have to be so desperate as to settle with any criminal? Granny dating daughter's ex? And they didn't seem to wonder why he wants to spend alone time with a 12 years old girl who was not related to him? Those two women should take responsibility for Tia's demise as well. No sane person leaves their young child with a career criminal!
The only thing to say is the fact he was a granny grabber maybe te family thought he couldn't possibly be interested in kids. Just goes to show how manipulative this evil man was.
sounds like the whole family is messed up...that girl didn't stand a chance...I feel so sad for her
37? Dude looks about 60...
Wait...what? He is 37? Yikes.
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@@Itried20takennames That's what a lifetime of drugs and alcohol will to ya.
You've offended 60 year olds!
Im 33 and he looks fourty years older then me
I heard the grandmother say “what happened in Stuart’s past, that’s none of my business” and I always think “it WAS Tia’s business though!” For the love of God. 💔💔💔
Any women like this shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.
What a stupid statement of her grandmother. Really stupid 😢
Her grandmother's home was the safest place she had and yet it became her scariest. MAY her soul rest in peace
Her grandmother place was not the safest place
The safest place for Tia was to be taken into care
Her mum and grandmother are trash
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37? He’s not aging well.
Clearly a drug addict
Looks like a meth addict
Hard life will do that to ya
He looks older than my husband, and he is 54....👀
How could those cops check 3 times, once with a dog, and not find anything?!?! Grandmother comes home and noticed bad smell immediately! Geez
Remind me of the jon bennet Ramsey case
What was up with the dog’s nose? 👀
Because they are scum and aren’t really interested
@@laquitagilmer5656 Lazy search.
Apparently the body was incredibly well wrapped in plastic, extensive amounts of tape and fabric, and it wasn't until a week later in the stifling heat that the smell was apparent. I can't blame the dog. For the police to do a house search in the case of a missing child and not check the loft? Yet they found a tiny memory card behind a door frame downstairs which held the horrific photos of Tia after death. I know nothing about policing, but I believe there was an awful lot of man power in this case, and they couldn't get their heads together and say we must check the loft.
You mean they didnt check the attic initially?? Search the Whole House.
Why did the neighbour lie to the police? I would never cover for anyone for something like this.
I'm wondering if the neighbor might also have something to hide.
Some people like the attention of being involved
@@producerlinda7109 You are soooo right love.
Maybe he just saw a girl and assumed It was her.
It could have been an honest mistake. Maybe he saw Tai leaving another day and mixed the days up, it happens. It's unfortunate that the authorities put so much faith in what the neighbour said. Once they saw all the cctv footage and they did not see Tai anywhere on camera, they just ignored the neighbour's claim. It happens all the time when horrible crimes are committed, people want to help and sometimes they get their signals crossed - it's up to the authorities to be able to discern fact from fiction which is why some murders are so difficult to solve if they ever get solved.
He is a creepy human being and the fact that the grandma takes in someone who had been with your daughter is even more disturbing. What a family!
Takes in is the nice version. The mother slept with a man who'd slept with her daughter. YUCK
Its disgusting that what that is .
It never ceases to amaze me how desperate some women are for male company
Sadly they are typical of the underclass we have in the UK. Social services should have been more involved, Tia never stood a chance in a dysfunctional set up like that.
poor girl had no hope
Damn they interrogated him on live tv that’s smart
To hear one of my grandchildren call me grandad is the sweetest gift a man can receive. It is an honour and a privilege to have a child call you Grandad, an honour and a privilege this monster (for he is not worthy of being labelled a man) neither earned nor deserved and if there is such a thing as eternal damnation I hope this monster gets to experience it.
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I totally agree with you
One in 3 little girls is sexually abused. Some of them were called grand dad too because in 84 out of grandparent 95 cases it is grandpa and a grand daughter, and she wasn't living at his house but an overnight guest. I looked it up.
38 Years ? Another Woke sentence from a Uk 🇬🇧 court..BRING BACK HANGING NOW ..AS THE BRITISH TAXPAYERS WILL NOT PAY FOR SCUM LIKE HIM AND OTHERS TO SURVIVE AND MURDER AGAIN ..EVER
@Gary Hill thank u for sure being a great grandad unlike this predator. I also caught my ex husband molesting my 5 year old grandson which was is stepgrandson..so thus is disqusting.
That poor child. Lord only knows what nightmares she lived though in her short life. Heartbreaking .R.I.P Tia
But that same Lord, as usual, did NOTHING to prevent her from suffering
what a dirty evil bastard, i ee the police was doing a thorugh search. even i would, look everywhere especially the loft, the police involved should all be sacked
, they searched the house 4 times, my god
probably too long going after hate speech and even stupider things
@@williamwhitcombe6487 Because that same Lord never said planet earth is paradise, TRY READING AN ACTUAL BIBLE. Again and again God warns us of sin, That same God gave you the option of believing in Him or not, we are not puppets..it's amazing how people like you blame a God you don't believe in.
38 Years ? Another Woke sentence from a Uk 🇬🇧 court..BRING BACK HANGING NOW ..AS THE BRITISH TAXPAYERS WILL NOT PAY FOR SCUM LIKE HIM AND OTHERS TO SURVIVE AND MURDER AGAIN ..EVER
@@williamwhitcombe6487 because God doesn't exist.
Tia's mom and grandmother are sick. How could they leave Tia in the "care" of this criminal?! They are also responsible for Tia's death. The poor sweet girl, may her soul rest in peace.
They will regret it the rest of their lives..
It's called selfish ignorance.
@Kim Choo - This guy was a psychopath or sociopath. How do you think all these guys get away with murdering women, children, etc.? They pretend to be normal people. I know for a fact because I lived with a psychopath for over 13 years and they definitely can pull the wool over anyone's eyes. You cannot blame the parents or grandmother of this poor child, the man was a fake and never let his guard down. So how could they even possibly think that he had anything to do with it? Please refrain from blaming the family, the true monster here is Hazel and no one else.
Sad
@@therealmccoy9687 uh no they still didn’t know him well. He had shown MANY signs of being a person with questionable character. They should have never left that child with him so yes they should be blamed.
If he'd done that to a child in my family he'd be hoping they hurried and locked him up
I would find a way to get to him anyway, the cops couldn't save him.
What if he was using the mother and grandmother all along just to be with Tia? What if being with them was about her all along 🤢
Id say thats obviously the situation
Uh....he was. Isn’t that self evident?
That is for sure!! It happens a Lot!
He was using the mother and grandmother to freeload off of them. The daughter was just the cheery on top of his manipulation.
I Agree with You👍👍👍
Did he say he was born in 1975!? He looks like he could have had a child born that year. Severe alcoholism ages people to a shocking degree, but this is an extraordinarily bad case!
He was a heroin addict,hence the appearance!
right?! i swear i’m having a Mandela effect right now because i’ve heard this case many times before, but i remember them saying he was in his 50’s when retelling it, not his mid 30s!
He was only with the mum 2 weeks, I guarantee he started dating the grandmother to continue to have access to poor Tia til he could make his move....diabolical.
37????? Looks like 77
i was just about to write that
Drug addict obviously
@@j.sony. exactly. Drugs and alcohol.
I think they meant 73
I think that she found out that he was filming her... She was disgusted by it, perhaps told him she will tell on him... So he murdered her to keep everything in his own. I don't think that he planned on murdering her, because he would have a plan to get rid of everything that could link him to her murder. That's just a sociopath... Those people never need a huge reason for doing something wrong.
Yeah, the typical caothic person. Quite impulsedriven and that he hid her body in the house where most with average intellect would realise it would start to smell and be discovered also display a lack of ability of planning for forseable consequences.
i reckon it was sexual he tried it on with her and she threatened to tell her gran.
The police should have looked in the attic during the first search. Hopefully they learned a lesson.
I doubt it
I. AGREE, CADAVER DOGS SHOULD ALWAYS BE TAKEN TO THE MISSING PERSONS ‘ HOME 🏡 BECAUSE SOME CRIMES ARE COMMITTED IN THE HOME.
@@yoliecuatorianaporvida3040 18:40 they did take dogs
@@campar1043 THEY DID ULTIMATELY . HOWEVER , WHEN THE CHILD WAS MISSING AT THE ONSET OR BEGINNING OF THE INVESTIGATION , THE POLICE DID NOT SEARCH WITH DOGS 🐕 INSIDE THE GRANDMOTHER’S HOUSE WHERE THE CHILD LIVED . THEY ONLY INTERVIEWED THE “KILLER” WHO WAS KNOWN AS THE GRANDFATHER (BUT NOT BLOOD RELATED ) AND THE LITTLE GIRLS GRANDMOTHER.
Exactly its a part of the house. Idiots
So, wait a minute. The grandmother was in prison the day her grand-daughter went missing? This is one effed-up family. Poor little girl.
Millions of young girls stay with family members all the time they just don’t turn up dead.
I was really really really picky of who I left my child with. My mother my father my brother. That's it. And was lucky enough to have the advantage to be a stay-at-home mother.
I thought she worked in care and was out for a double duty?
Bunch of freaks, that poor little girl.
@@archimedes2261 Do "millions of girls" stay with ex convicts that are dating grandma after dating the daughter?
wake up
Yet another crime that would more than justify capital punishment in my view.
Yeah but you have those small percent who are put away because someone in the system doesn't like them or false confession. That is the only reason why I am against it. Mostly. I do think it is possible to prove some without a doubt and they should be drawn and quartered.
@@Grimeaper agreed but there is the issue of deterrent as well to be considered.
@UpNorth I honestly do not understand why we do not have a lot of homeless serial killers considering life in prison is way better than the streets. Hell let one of your homies die and say you did it even. Just a thought that popped in my head when you said what you said.
@UpNorth I don't know about cushy, but besides wrongful convictions, the main issue is those on death row have nothing to lose and therefore no reason not to hurt or kill others in prison. A death sentence creates desperation and punishes not only the individual, but those around them.
Socrates:
1 tortured child is worse than 1000 innocent men drinking the poison beaker like I shall do now
Why hadn’t they searched the attic before?! Like top to bottom?? That’s disgraceful and so sad.
That's discussing I would never date any one who was with my mother.
I would be sick to my stomach. This is the family fault. I want to throw up Yuck.
The child's mother dated him first, then her grandmother.
But you're correct when you stated, and I quote, yuck. I wouldn't get with anyone who had been with my offspring, or someone their age.
Simply eww-resistable.
@jacqueline alicea - It's very easy to make snap judgements when you're not directly involved in the incident, it's a human response. However, blaming the family is wrong in every sense of the word. People want to believe in the goodness of others and if they are good people, it is very difficult for them to recognize evil when they are constantly manipulated. How do you think Ted Bundy and all of those other serial killers were able to kill so many? Because they are not human and they are masters at pretending to be human. Please refrain from blaming the family, the only person to blame is the Hazel and only Hazel.
Disgusting not discussing and even tho u are right about dating anyone that’s with your mother the situation here was different she dated someone that was with her child 1st
@@therealmccoy9687 dang that struck a never huh
What's the point of your comment? Do you disagree with what I wrote or agree? Please clarify. To answer your question: Yes this struck a nerve with me because my own child was diagnosed with psychopathic tendencies at 4 years of age and I found out the hard way about how psychopaths are pure evil, they pretend to have human feelings when their condition prevents them from having any feelings for anyone but themselves. So yes, it struck a nerve because my child was born this way and we did nothing to create it, we just had to find ways to cope and deal with it and we got blamed by people who did not know the specifics of our child's history and I'm tired of parents being blamed.
Who else felt the sudden urge to blink and awareness of blinking when the forensic body language guy talked about how often we blink?
🤣🤣🤣👀 Blink blink
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I'm horrified, with many others, how a police force can go into the home of missing young girl once much less THREE times and not look in the attic. That is inexcusable.
How in the Hell weren't they tailing him from day one? Wow. This should be used as a how NOT to investigate.
Right. If you’re doing a house search, why tf would you look everywhere but not the attic. I mean why would a murderer hide a dead body in the bedroom or the bathroom? Thats just stupid.
don't be so demanding: this is England. After all, they searched the correct house 3 times. And getting into the Attic is a bit of a hassle and might turn into work. Do you want the cops to break a sweat?
Welcome to the corrupt and incompetent world of British policing, our police resources seem to be funnelled into the police now crossing over into civil work and making sure people are paying …. Fines 🤷🏼🥴
@Maxbps exactly the worse investigation in history and that's how all these predators get away
@@alestbest yes they're police so what got do job they need be busted in ass
He was preying on that baby girl since he set eyes on her and took every opportunity he could to take advantage of her. RIP ANGEL BABY!
I actually have a gut feeling that somethings waz going on with him and the little girl before this murded. That video at the grocery store...
That the police searched the house 3 times and didn’t look in the loft is beyond belief. What the hell were they thinking? Totally inept.
So you think you could of done better?
i noticed they found the memory drive hidden in the door quick enough.
@@jodifoster9820 yes anyone could have done better, if you search a house you search the loft, obvious, not obvious to the woke police though, mostly they are to busy arresting someone for saying assoles
@@jodifoster9820 yes
@@jodifoster9820 simpleton
from what I've seen of Tias mother, she seemed very vulnerable. i do not understand why her grandmother would date her daughters ex partner though. that is kind of fucked up. Rest in peace, Tia. we would be the same age today.
Agreed
Many mothers struggle to understand what is and is not appropriate in relations with their daughters’ partners. My own mother betrayed me with my ex-husband. Not physically/sexually, but emotionally. She attempted to become his roommate after I moved out of our home during our separation. I have forgiven her and moved on for my own sake but I will never forget that her boundaries are not where they should be when it comes to men, and they never have been.
what i found most interesting is the 5 month sentence given to the false witness, you dont see that happen, ever.
They do that in the UK. I have seen it in other cases.
It's a pretty light sentence, 5 years is a short sentence for that in my opinion
TIA was the target from the beginning. How naive do you have to be to not suspect his intentions when he started to date gramma. No excuses from the two women involved will ever be enough. Ladies stop bringing these creepy men into your children's lives and making them bait for perverts.
I agree. However, women who are willing to date these creeps themselves, don't exactly have the discernment that they should, in relation to proper parenting!
I cannot understand how someone allows a child to stay with someone involved in drugs, alcohol and with an extensive criminal record. That said, for these perverted criminals it is not only wrong that they are given the possibility of a minimum sentence to be served, but the death penalty should be applied.
You dont understand council estate Britain then.
That's what happens when a person thinks they know someone better than what their actions are saying
Never say that, you might think you are the smartest but the reality is , it had to happen that way.worst scenarios can befall on you my dear, so never say that, you are not smart enough to talk like that.
@@johnydyson I know that there is no death penalty in the UK and that it is very difficult for them to pass a sentence for natural life, the same happens where I live, but it is my belief that it should be considered in such serious crimes.
@@Dalailama3674 I'm probably not, and maybe that's why I can't understand situations like this.
I'm a single mom but I have never bring strangers around my children no matter how trustworthy they may look.... Rest in peace little angel 🙏
Sure you haven’t. This man lived as her grandfather for 9 years so hardly a stranger.
He wasn't a stranger, he had been part of their family for years, which makes it even more sick.
@@SteveMHN No never part of the family, not married to anyone just living off them, you do not leave little girls with men.
@@marilynwillett804 I look after my neighbours daughter and I'm a 37 year old man, dont tar us all with the same brush we are not all monsters
Three searches of the home.....WITH DOGS? And we had to wait a week 'til the August heat and being stored in an attic finally gave Tia's whereabouts away?
It's a good thing no one had the sniffles. A big FAIL on Police work.
I’m really wondering if he killed her in another location and after the home had been checked 3x that he then moved her to the attic believing he was in the clear.
@@pamelamorris3148 same
@@pamelamorris3148 I doubt it. It appeared that they were watching him way too closely for him to move a whole body without anyone noticing.
So he knew the baby since she was 3.. watched her grow up, helped take care of her. And then did this. I’m going to throw up for like 24 hours straight. That baby girl is happy now and safe is all I can comfort myself with after hearing this.
My guess is he molested her growing up as well! 🤬
She is dead ,and that monster killed her ,she is not happy ,she no longer exists because of that monster ,she was robbed of her precious life
He probably dated the women in Tia's family to still be around her and to keep them trusting in him
That's weird to date someone who dated your daughter. Weird family.....poor Tia....RIP Angel 💗
@netsirenful yeah he’s a straight creep I’m sure the grandma isn’t too sane herself dating her daughters ex
That was my first thought. So sad.
@@Alienspecies635 she seems desperate.
That's why the investigator made it a point to say predatory behavior
Promoting a stranger to the role of "step granddad" was so irresponsible.
How can I search the house three times and no one bothered to look in the Attic🤷♀️
Why did the neighbour lie about seeing Tia on that morning? What a terrible case, such a lovely girl with her whole life ahead of her 😞
So it took the police 4 searches before they thought to look in the loft , and even the forensics doing a thorough search didn’t bother to look in the loft. Great work 👏🏻
The grandmother took her daughter is ex into her house. And decided to leave her grandchild with this guy. The grandmother needs to serve time as well.
He planned this since the day he met her mother. Sick!!
Barbarian is to kind a word
Evil. Not sick. Evil
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something is really wrong with Tia's grandmother!
The neighbour got only 5 months? Again, UK justice fails society.
The US justice system is just as bad sometimes.
@@joewas2225 not as bad as UK innit bruv
@@concerts9597 The us is backwards they have put innocent people to death and have inprisioned innocent for 20 + years.
Communists
The US wouldn’t and doesn’t even charge them for lying and making false statements so I’m shocked the UK did. Who knows if the man did see her and he killed her after and took her back to the house after it was searched.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is just ONE reason why you don't knowingly allow CRIMINALS around the ppl that you love..especially children
Child killers need to be put in general population, tell all the other prisoners what they did, and send all the guards on a 30 minute break.
the most sickening scene is him walking with his head down wearing the missing persons shirt like you have to be a real psycho to even do some shit like that, he has his head down because he knows he’s the reason she is missing, you can’t trust people seriously
Wow..what a dysfunctional family…Can’t wrap my head around the grandmother being with her daughter’s old boyfriend…whoa…
From the daughter, then to the mother, with the aim finally getting to the grandaughter.
How or why we may never know. But he does.
Blaming it on his early life is no excuse. He was accountable about what he did, not what happened to him in his early life...
Exactly 💯
No morals,no principles, no self respect, no nothing with this family.
Absolutely disgraceful.
Poor child had no chance ,especially if these are what was ment to teach and nurture this child.
These women are just as much to blame .
This guy is disgusting...
Evil sick ,no excuse ever to justify any of what he did.
Whole thing is just shocking!
38 years?? I think that's too light of a sentence.
I’m surprised it’s actually that long in the UK. They normally only give 10 to 12 year’s for any murder case.
Very light, if i made laws that sentence would be hard labour for life, and torture authorized on a daily basis, so for me even death is to light a sentence
he would have got life with no possibilty of parole in the usa, so weve probably got more nancy judges here than there
Hate when kids have nobody smart enough to take care of them.
So do I get this right? He was involved with Tias mother then switched to the Grandma then eventually developes a twisted fetish for the Granddaughter and the only one who could not give him consensual sex?
Agreed.....weird..
Yes, I had to go back and check because I thought maybe I hadn't underestood.... where were Child Protection Services in all this? And the neighbours and her schoolfriends.... surely someone thought it was abnormal and should be reported?
That is what I just asked before reading your post? Did I really understand what I heard or did I mishear??
Wow you putting it point blank like that, is pretty devastating 😔
It's fucking weird but it was 2 weeks guys not months or years...it wasn't much of a relationship. Don't exaggerate. I can see how after a bit the mom would be like k whatever...you have to realize, these predators are MASTER MANIPULATORS it's a fucking craft!
In 2022 Hazell was stabbed 10 times by a fellow inmate and was left nearly dead.
I Can not feel sorry for this monster.
Really? Hadn't heard
I have watched a lot of creepy crime documentaries but this seriously gives me the spooks. That poor little babe. 😥
So grandma's in prison and mom thinks it would be a good idea to send her daughter to her ex boyfriend (grandma's current boyfriend) for the night...this poor little girl never had a chance.
Sick of those who commit horrific crimes justifying those crimes because of their past. They need to be eliminated. In the worst way. Crimes like this would greatly decrease. The sick and guilty have more rights than the innocent.
This a good video! But IMO there is no need for an actor when you have film enough of the real guy.
WTF were these people thinking letting such a weirdo creep into their lives and to be alone
with a 12 year old girl, how could neither of them have picked up bad vibes from this sick
person.
That is the oldest looking 37 year old guy ever
I "Loved" her to pieces like my own daughter. Umm he is speaking about her in the past tense. They do these interviews so well that they just keep talking and yep they end up messing up and you can just tell they are guilty.
That's so scary. To have someone close to you turn on you like that.
IT IS SCARRY TO HAVE CLOSE RELATIVES COMMIT A CRIME. THAT IS WHY THE POLICE 👮♀️ ALWAYS INTERROGATE THE FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS FIRST WHEN THERE IS A CRIME
The morning of the day they found the body was the first time the grandmother noticed the smell :'( she apparently tried cleaning the whole kitchen looking for what smelled. Just awful beyond comprehension, knowing by that evening she would have realized she was smelling the corpse of her grandbaby.
@@lizc6393 Do you think she knew what he'd done?
It's no way i would've trusted my mother's judgement after she slept with my ex... My child ain't going many places, definitely wouldn't go there.. If he's willing to sleep with your mother, he's willing to sleep with your daughter... Rip baby...
Tia hadn't been found yet, but in one interview, me and my sister and parents were watching it and we all immediately picked up on his use of the word "was". I don't know about the rest of the country but we knew
How in the world did the police search 4 times and never find her body?! Now even the dogs detected?? Why wouldn’t they have searched the attic before?! This is absolutely ridiculous and it seems that the whole police department was incompetent
They wouldn't have searched the attic at first. When someone is initially missing (she wasn't suspected to have been dead at first) it's normal to check the whole house but only really places you'd expect a child to be, so not necessarily places like the attic or behind Bath panels etc. The police obviously don't go to every missing person report expecting them to have been murdered and concealed somewhere in the property
I’d rather want to know why none of the officers in charge who searched the house 3 times, were not fired. I’d like to see an investigation into that.
They were disciplined,to what extent i don't know though?
@@damianstages442 thy should have been strung up , maybe if they spent more time doing police work instead of sitting in front of computers, looking to find anyone who has offended someone, they might solve a case one day
Grandma so desperate for a man - ANY man, obviously - that she dates her own daughter's cast-off? And a career convict at THAT?
Pathetic.
It's certainly not the worst murder case I've heard of, not even the worst case of child abuse... but for some reason this one just shook me to my core. Maybe because he's just such a putrid, evil, cowardly bastard. And Tia seemed like a particularly lovely human.
Why won’t you write it the way it is: a child murder case? That’s what it truly is. 😢
Very insensitive comment.
Three house searches with a bunch of forensic experts and not one of em decided to do a full search of the attic!? That's a massive fuck up!
If evil was a look, he exuded everything evil.
how? Didn't see that at all. Confirmation bias?
I TOTALLY AGREE
@@Jamie-js3qw really?? He looks off
Only in hindsight.
He looks fucking ancient and was 37!
Listen,my mom and I don't have the best relationship but my mother would never date anyone I was in a relationship with...it just would never happen. This whole situation is just sick. This poor child. My Thoughts are with this sweet Angel in Heaven. Prayers for her family
Search the house means the attic too. Also the neighbour was involved
That poor girl, her mother and grandmother should feel utter shame.
Did I hear that correctly, daughter, Mother and then Grandmother?😳
@Tundra Swan Smfh, that dude should never have been trusted....period
Well, in true British tradition, it IS reminiscent of the aristocracy.
@@brianpedersen4714 roflmao!😂😂😂😂😂
@@shainaharp3606 OMG
@@justiceusa3267 what? It was twisted but funny!
Poor TIA didn’t stand a chance with these lot. Poor kid
How many times THREE? Not once the attic was checked WTF! That killer looks over 60!!!
Thank goodness these killers are not aware of the fact that micro expressions and body language will bury you.
I’ve studied this and I am always happy that the egos of killers get them caught.
very sad story... how can people not see when someone has bad intentions?
Ayoo. The level of incompetence is staggering. I was thinking , "how are the dogs incompetent as well" but they signaled a cadaver so it goes right back to the humans in control
Why are so many men pervs for young children? Why is it always the uncle? And why aren't the other adults ever aware of their inclinations? The only real remorse Hazell has is that he got caught.
Ya know I wonder the same thing... I can understand some crimes (not that I want to commit but they make sense) murder out of passion, bank robbing, stuff like that... but crimes against children really, truly don't make any sense to me at any level.
I think that to myself ALL THE TIME!! it makes me sad/angry everytime!!! I am scared for my children.. I dont care that I am a helicopter mom! Thats the only way I feel like they will be safe
Statistically there are way more sexual deviants and predators among males than females. Don’t ask me why...And they are very good in hiding their true intentions. Many are married, have biological children and are considered to be good fathers. It took investigators 12 years to figure out Chikatilo.
There are a ton of female predators out there as well preying on young children.
Put yourself in the shoes of someone like Stuart though. Why would you ever make it obvious about your desires? You wouldn't act up in front of other people, you would clearly wear your "mask" to pretend to be normal among others. That's what these people do. They would never make others aware of their true intentions because it would interfere with their actions.
@@alinalindt4676 because its evolutionary good thing????
38 years will drag by. Haunted by his evil deeds and 3 times they searched the house with the loft hatch In plain sight is beyond ridiculous. Shame on the police.
So...they're just gonna ignore the memory card evidence? I believe he has done this before and got away with it. Hopefully there is still jailhouse justice and he won't have to wait to die naturally.
When I watched that tv interview with friends, not one of us felt he was telling the truth. Everything about his demeanor rang alarm bells.
Wait. He was 10 younger than Tia's...grandmother?? Basically all these women had children as very young teenagers...?
He also previously dated Tia's mother before dating her grandmother.
@@MT-sy6hv words fail.
DO YOU MEAN TO STATE THE MURDERER WAS TEN YEARS YOUNGER THAN TIAS GRANDMOTHER? Hazell looks 65 years of age. DRUGS AND ALCOHOL 🍺 TAKE S TOLL ON SOMEONE’S APPEARANCE .
@@yoliecuatorianaporvida3040 Yeah, the narrator says he's 10 years younger than Tia's grandma - he was 37 when he was arrested, making Tia's grandma 47. Tia was 12, so her mom had to have been...18?
Ya they do that a lot in the UK be a it means they get a house and get child support from the government for them and the kids they have. I lived there for 6 years. It was quite common to see young girls with kids especially the poor ones.
I’m a step grandma! I love my grand babies like they were my own! This is horrible! I would die for my grand babies!
The part about adding stuff in to sound truthful scares the f out of me as an anxious person I go way into too much detail about stuff. If I was ever in this guy's situation I would be screwed
What horrified me the most was the family having to look at that photo in the courtroom and trying to imagine how that must have felt. Such a sickening story, i have no words. Rest in peace Tia
Sick SOB!!
That poor girl, Love to her family.
I would be interested in the false witness, what was that about and why
From watching many crime shows, some people like to inject themselves into the investigation. It’s either attention seeking behaviour or they’re trying to get information from the police about the case because they’re getting the info for the killer or they themselves are the killer. And sometimes it could be police pressure - police are desperate to find the killer or have a suspect and get tunnel vision. This is when they’re so focused on one suspect they fit the evidence to him to get a conviction.
Some people imagine stuff when under pressure or question their own judgment specially that it has been circulating around the media and the neighbourhood that she went off on that street, so probably he saw another kid and he was like yes that was her.
Been thinking bout this alittle. I'm convinced he was doing her thing w/her as well + she was n his house while they were questioning him. After he sent them off n the wrong direction on a wild goose chase. Thats when he went next door & hid the body n the attic.
Bad judgement on grandmother
I wonder if Stuart Hazel had a word with the neighbour,saying something like,’ you know me mate,you know I love Tia like my own,you know I’d never hurt her,but the media are starting to say I’m a suspect. I can’t prove I didn’t do it,but you know me,you know I’d never touch her,I love her like my own. Look do me a favour and help me out,say you saw her,it will get these bastards off my back and make em concentrate on the real killer etc
So maybe the neighbour did it out of a misplaced sense of loyalty,thinking that he was 100000% innocent and it was wrong of the media to suspect him
In my opinion, an innocent person's first inclination would be to immediately call for help, if someone was injured or had died by accident, not where they should hide the body...