Right! Why would they ever let such a sexual deviant go knowing full well that he would strike again. I understand that he was sixteen, but it was premeditated. I can't imagine what that poor girl suffered, and the pain her family myst have gone through with such a horrible and senseless loss.
This was in the 1970s. There was not a lot of research that had been done on sexual offenders. Some of the modern research by folks like David Wilson and Adrian Raine point to the fact that sexually deviant offenders aren't capable of "rehabilitation" and should be receiving more appropriate sentences these days.
@@NaturalBeauty0195 proverbial "nail on the HEAD " {hittin } there are exceptions to the rule but SHOULD NOT be cases of VIOLENCE esp SEXUAL ! was mentioned on another site about island prisons used nowadays , YES for folks like this guy ,its about TIME equalizing the CRIME !
Absolutely Im not sure about the laws on minor sex offenders but I 100% think sex offending minors i put it in that order purposely, should have their names on the sex offender registers & no sealed records. I have this opinion for a reason & for they later victims. I can only wish that they had been warned
Sorry but the blame falls squarely on the law and the courts in this case. Police can only work with what they have. His juvenile record was probably sealed and they didn’t equate robberies with sexual molestation and murder. The criminal courts in Scotland were deeply flawed and that judge should’ve been flogged.
How many times have they connected the dots? Far more cases have been solved than unsolved. I'm not in law enforcement and neither is anyone I know, not everything is so black and white and people might think. Hindsight is 20/20.
I think if its laid out on a show we can forget that so many other crimes are going on we see it clearly laid out neatly explained. Remember most ppl r killed especially children by ppl that are related or close to them But I get what ur saying its frustrating.
They need to change the legal system of child offenders as they act more like adults.. they're not so innocent anymore. If they act like vile creatures, treat them as such.
Though that could make the system arbitrary. The age tresholds in criminal responsibility and sentencing are typically set by the scientific facts about what level of itent an legally underage are capable of.The frontal cortex which influences impulsecontrol ability, delayed gratifications and such is developing up until around age 21. It's even visible physically in the brain in that area. While people who are psychopaths often display disturbing behaviour at a really early age psychopathy as such is diagnosed by the lack of an ability that generally only start to develop around the age of 12 and takes some years to be complete with some variation of +/- perhaps two years.
That’s what’s wrong with the justice system. When someone does something so evil at an early age, they’re are broken from birth. They have no remorse, no empathy, no nothing towards human life. What makes them think these ppl are gonna change when they get older. He got a slap on the hand when he rapped and killed a child as if he had just robbed a store 🤦🏽♀️… I feel so bad for the child’s parents. They probably felt like they got no justice for their daughter.
Well I agree, but we live in a society that is obsessed with mental health issues and trying to help those people, every time anyone does anything they cry mental health issues, and locking them up is punishing them for being crazy instead of trying to help them.. The drug addict that slits an old ladies throat whilst stealing her handbag, claims drugs messed his mind up, it's the suppliers fault, it's his parents fault, it's societies fault, but it's not his fault, he has mental health issues, the victim is just a by product of not treating mental illness... Personally I think people should be responsible for their actions regardless of whether they're crazy or depressed or whatever, they need to be introduced to the long drop
This was the 70s. In Scotland. Its only been over the past twenty or so years that psychiatric studies have shown these predators are unlikely to change. Its believed children or teens can change. Even in the U.S. predators were given the benefit..
They were 17 years old. They were not “women”. I get a little pissed when men constantly call these minor girls “women”. It’s as though they want them to be considered “women” so that they can justify their fantasies about lusting after them. It sickens me.
Children or adults they’re interchangeable now A teen tortured & murdered got death, but 30 yrs later they changed it to life. She smiled, never apologize & showed no remorse, laughed, smiled through the interview. She sure learned her lesson.I was a teen,now I’m in m 30s but the people were tortured & are still dead.
But they are not children either. In my personal opinion a 17-year old is closer to an adult than to a child. It of course depands on a person but I wouldn't infantilize 17-year olds. In one year they would be considered legally adults so it is expected of them to be like one to some degree.
@@SwayTree I Agree, I would think they percieved themselves as young women. It would sound awful to say, "witnesses saw the children at a pub with two men". These victims, perhaps in a bit too hurried theselves as adults. But they were working, just as many from the workingclass did. Going to a pub may not imply partying as such. It's a social thing where people meet up.
@@johannas.l.brushane2518 Exactly! In 70' life milestones were going faster than they are now. A 23-year old married person was normal. Also in some countries drinking age for low-alcohol beverages is 16 (I don't know how it was in Scotlannd at that time).
I agree completely. Once they have a certain mark they seldom change it or stop it. They should never be set free, high percentage repeat until caught again.
Paedophilia is not a mental illness. It's no different than a psychopath or a sociopath. There is no cure. They should stop trying to "rehabilitate" them. They should never be let back out to reoffend. 🤷🏻♀️
I believe it goes from “we can’t ruin this young man’s future” to “we can’t judge him based on his past” - they’re simply given the benefit of the doubt and women die because of it
No. It means they are heartless and even moreso, have no BALLS. Here in America, they'd either be put to death, or get life in prison without the possibility of parole and other prisoners don't take kindly to child killers, so they usually take out the trash for us so our taxes don't continue to pay for these monster's oxygen. You all in the UK are cowards and pedophilia doesn't bother y'all at all, or you'd fight to have your laws changed . Yet you don't you just sit around and complain, but do nothing to make a change Look at prince Andrew. How long are you going to continue to cover up for that pedophile?
It feels like in the past, before technological advances and psychological profiling, as long as you committed a murder that had nothing to do with anyone you knew, or was a fair enough distance away, you were pretty much home free.
Just knowing that she spent her first check on a nice designer coat, was probably really excited about wearing it that night, and someone decided to murder her. The story shouldn’t have ended like that. 😔
There is a point in time when someone who commits a horrific crime is beyond the point where rehabilitation is possible. Not only does capital punishment create a deserved punishment that I equal to the crime committed, it provides a safety net for the rest of the society. A sentence of death prevents that person from committing another horrific crime. It also reduces the influence that person would have on prison populations, which may influence behaviors and choices of non-violent offenders upon their release.
It's definitely appropriate for violent psychopaths, including sexual murderers, because they're known to be impossible to change via punishment or therapy.
Love the fact that all these cold cases are finally being solved w/ DNA & genetic genealogy, and bringing as much tranquility & closure as can ever really be achieved… to the victims, their families & loved ones. More importantly, it’s enabling the capture of those whom would otherwise be potential, future, serial killers… stopping them in their tracks, after the first crimes, never getting the chance to repeat them. Hopefully, preventing their reign of terror & murder career from growing or reaching the number & degree of deviance they would have in decades prior. Prayers for the victims & their families. Glad we could learn from each and every crime and the victims were never forgotten.
Angus died in 2019. That's bittersweet, because the longer he lived, the longer he would be languishing in prison with no hope of ever getting out. Now he just ceases to exist, which is also nice.
I don't agree Angus should have been dealt the same horror he spewed .languishing in prison is still being alive.i think he and others like him should be put through a shredder.if you don't have the stomach for it ,I will gladly do it.in prison you are still active while the people or person that is destroyed is not.lanquish in prison you make a good point if you mean being hung upside down with their head in a bucket of shit .I wonder if you are aware of what you write.
It's up to the citizens to go after judges and lawyers that allow this to happen. Don't punish them in the courts, punish them in the streets. They will stop this behavior of allowing obvious killers to walk free.
Judges and lawyers DON'T make the laws alone. You are a citizen? You are a voter? If yes, it's up to YOU to change the law to something more fitting. It's up to citizens to change what's wrong.
That's not how you solve the problem. Lawyers and Judges are bound to the laws, not the authors of the law. The laws have to be changed. If anyone is to seek justice on child molesters, it should be voters advocating to have those laws changed. However, let me add that many of these offenders are killed in the prison system. All child molesters should be castrated as a matter of standard practice.
If you're advocating vigilante action judges and lawyers (who don't make laws) then you've got a problem too. Mob rule is ugly, stupid and criminal. Its not up to the public to be judge and jury. Mob rule inevitably leads to innocents being harmed, because mobs act without proof or evidence.
He only served seven years! He should have gotten life. Scotland allows 17 yo kids to go into bars and drink, wow. Not here in America, the drinking age is 21.
“…But they had not yet been proven to be the Worlds End Murderers…It would take intelligent police work…”🤔 So I gather that they never were proved to be the Murderers. 😆
Released after seven years for killing an Eight years old kid? Are you serious? WT(F) is that? Now, after he killed more and more, you want to see his old Assssss in pension till he dies? What is the point?
Shows no remorse for raping and killing a seven year old child, gets ten years and released after seven. I don't care if it WAS the 60s, that is pathetic!!!
Why the hell are 17 and 18 year olds having a night out partying at the fucking pub anyway?..... Where the hell were their parents? Legal drinking age doesn't mean shit when all adults are fully aware of just how young 17 and 18 really is......
Back in the 70's in England, we all used to go to pubs, have a drink, go dancing. We never thought about rapes and murder, never entered our heads. We would have been horrified to be called a child.
If you put addblocker on your phone you can listen without the adverts on RUclips. I've got the one that looks like a red and blue street sign. I use it with earphones while I go to sleep. Obviously the data used if not on WiFi can be a bugger
It astonishes me that he was released early after his first crime. I'm in the US. We release people early as well, but not people who commit a crime like that. Also, in the US, he almost certainly would have been convicted as an adult and gotten an adult sentence.
I would have been waiting for him outside the prison,he wouldn't have got very far...I'd rather do time myself than see a murderer of my family walk free. Same old justice system paying little attention to the future,nothing changes they're still at it......
Imagine knowing that these men did violent sexual crimes and not having vigilante justice served. Sometimes I think every aspect of our society, even the good people, are all evil deep down. We should never have evolved past monkeys. The Earth would be better off for it.
I don't believe in the death penalty ,However we're children are concerned they need either the death penalty or never see the light of day again I also think the sentence of life is far to short if you kill you need to pay life should mean life they've taken a life
39:25-39:40 I thought 'Double Jeopardy' laws only applied to countries with Common-Law/Adversarial legal systems?. Scotland has the Inqusitorial/Civil Law legal system.
They didn't like the outcome they got the first time although it was the fault of the prosecution for being lazy and assuming the judge would automatically agree with them. So they decided to repeal an entire law, although it was probably put in place for good reason. Sounds about right.
The thing the I don’t understand is why it have to wait soooooooooooooooo much and he comiteted so many killings over the years to catch a killer???!!!!! I just don’t get it!!
"He is cruel wicked noting will stop him doing that stuff 10 years he would get in adult prison" but he sould of gotten life in prison without parole and would would of bean feeling better
"The World's End" is a Reference to the Common belief of Mariners that Mankind had for Centuries thought was the end of the Ocean and that the World was Flat and that because many Ships that set to Sea never returned because at some point Flat Earth ends and anyone too close Falls off. There be Monsters here. . . -Me
I found this to be well done until that narcissistic American started talking. The documentary was not about him(Julian Beaver). It was about the inappropriate sexual acts by Sinclair.
Life for a life if that was the case then the other victims would have lived. My blood went cold waching this one I work up the royal mile I played in the gosford estate near Aberlady as a boy
I remember when the girls went missing, passed the pub many times when up in Edinburgh. The name always stuck with me. I didn't know his wife was a Nurse. A paedophile prison, really. Is it in Glasgow ? Thanks for your open comment. Really interesting.
The characters began very interestingly , but the NARRATOR can't seem to find his consistent legitimate ACCENT ? Find a Scotsman or a Brit but this guy is annoying.
“Nothing would stop him from reoffending and he showed no remorse.” And he gets 10 years? I don’t care if he was 16. That’s messed up.
Right! Why would they ever let such a sexual deviant go knowing full well that he would strike again. I understand that he was sixteen, but it was premeditated. I can't imagine what that poor girl suffered, and the pain her family myst have gone through with such a horrible and senseless loss.
@@NaturalBeauty0195 Totally strange. Maybe his parents had some connections to “higher echelon”?
@@MothaLuva could be. Greasing the right palms can get anyone off, the greed is disgusting.
This was in the 1970s. There was not a lot of research that had been done on sexual offenders. Some of the modern research by folks like David Wilson and Adrian Raine point to the fact that sexually deviant offenders aren't capable of "rehabilitation" and should be receiving more appropriate sentences these days.
@@NaturalBeauty0195 proverbial "nail on the HEAD " {hittin } there are exceptions to the rule but SHOULD NOT be cases of VIOLENCE esp SEXUAL ! was mentioned on another site about island prisons used nowadays , YES for folks like this guy ,its about TIME equalizing the CRIME !
How does someone rape & murder a child & ever get out of jail????? WTH ???????????
Is 17 a child?
His first victim was 7.
@@sophiejameson4064 Oh ok fair enough
I agree with you and the inmates should of killed him
@@hopefliers1507 you got that right
Something very wrong with the British judicial system to only have a child rapist/murderer serve 7 years.
Perverts in high places I’m afraid
@@David-uf8ex Bingo. That's the key. Once you realise that the whole messed up pattern makes sense.
Why pedophiles & "minor" offenders don't get locked away appropriately blows my mind.
Absolutely Im not sure about the laws on minor sex offenders but I 100% think sex offending minors i put it in that order purposely, should have their names on the sex offender registers & no sealed records. I have this opinion for a reason & for they later victims. I can only wish that they had been warned
And he also KILLED the seven-year-old! And got ten years and let out after seven!
“The police didn’t connect the dots”…how many times has this been said in how many cases?? 🤦♂️
Sorry but the blame falls squarely on the law and the courts in this case. Police can only work with what they have. His juvenile record was probably sealed and they didn’t equate robberies with sexual molestation and murder. The criminal courts in Scotland were deeply flawed and that judge should’ve been flogged.
How many times have they connected the dots? Far more cases have been solved than unsolved. I'm not in law enforcement and neither is anyone I know, not everything is so black and white and people might think. Hindsight is 20/20.
I think if its laid out on a show we can forget that so many other crimes are going on we see it clearly laid out neatly explained. Remember most ppl r killed especially children by ppl that are related or close to them But I get what ur saying its frustrating.
But when they had the tools they did and also didn't give up.
His dirty wife kept giving him alibis. Well documented.
The things these people do to young children never fails to sicken me to the core
And the courts allow ut to keep happening.
That's the scary part
They need to change the legal system of child offenders as they act more like adults.. they're not so innocent anymore. If they act like vile creatures, treat them as such.
Though that could make the system arbitrary. The age tresholds in criminal responsibility and sentencing are typically set by the scientific facts about what level of itent an legally underage are capable of.The frontal cortex which influences impulsecontrol ability, delayed gratifications and such is developing up until around age 21. It's even visible physically in the brain in that area. While people who are psychopaths often display disturbing behaviour at a really early age psychopathy as such is diagnosed by the lack of an ability that generally only start to develop around the age of 12 and takes some years to be complete with some variation of +/- perhaps two years.
70s. Scottland. Not much research done back then.
@@tessaducek5601 yea :/
That’s what’s wrong with the justice system. When someone does something so evil at an early age, they’re are broken from birth. They have no remorse, no empathy, no nothing towards human life. What makes them think these ppl are gonna change when they get older. He got a slap on the hand when he rapped and killed a child as if he had just robbed a store 🤦🏽♀️… I feel so bad for the child’s parents. They probably felt like they got no justice for their daughter.
Well I agree, but we live in a society that is obsessed with mental health issues and trying to help those people, every time anyone does anything they cry mental health issues, and locking them up is punishing them for being crazy instead of trying to help them..
The drug addict that slits an old ladies throat whilst stealing her handbag, claims drugs messed his mind up, it's the suppliers fault, it's his parents fault, it's societies fault, but it's not his fault, he has mental health issues, the victim is just a by product of not treating mental illness...
Personally I think people should be responsible for their actions regardless of whether they're crazy or depressed or whatever, they need to be introduced to the long drop
WHHHY, DO THEY LET ( CHILD MOLESTERS OUT ??? ) WHHHY ??? YOU had him and LET HIM GO... LAW'S are as SICK as these people !!! 😣😣😣😣😣😣😣
Exactly! They don't change.
This was the 70s. In Scotland. Its only been over the past twenty or so years that psychiatric studies have shown these predators are unlikely to change. Its believed children or teens can change. Even in the U.S. predators were given the benefit..
They were 17 years old. They were not “women”. I get a little pissed when men constantly call these minor girls “women”. It’s as though they want them to be considered “women” so that they can justify their fantasies about lusting after them. It sickens me.
Children or adults they’re interchangeable now A teen tortured & murdered got death, but 30 yrs later they changed it to life. She smiled, never apologize & showed no remorse, laughed, smiled through the interview. She sure learned her lesson.I was a teen,now I’m in m 30s but the people were tortured & are still dead.
But they are not children either. In my personal opinion a 17-year old is closer to an adult than to a child. It of course depands on a person but I wouldn't infantilize 17-year olds. In one year they would be considered legally adults so it is expected of them to be like one to some degree.
@@SwayTree I Agree, I would think they percieved themselves as young women. It would sound awful to say, "witnesses saw the children at a pub with two men". These victims, perhaps in a bit too hurried theselves as adults. But they were working, just as many from the workingclass did. Going to a pub may not imply partying as such. It's a social thing where people meet up.
@@johannas.l.brushane2518 Exactly! In 70' life milestones were going faster than they are now. A 23-year old married person was normal. Also in some countries drinking age for low-alcohol beverages is 16 (I don't know how it was in Scotlannd at that time).
Absolutely agree. Seventeen is a girl, not a woman.
The fact that child killers constantly released from prison proves this society has a serious mental issue.
I agree completely. Once they have a certain mark they seldom change it or stop it. They should never be set free, high percentage repeat until caught again.
Paedophilia is not a mental illness. It's no different than a psychopath or a sociopath. There is no cure. They should stop trying to "rehabilitate" them. They should never be let back out to reoffend. 🤷🏻♀️
I believe it goes from “we can’t ruin this young man’s future” to “we can’t judge him based on his past” - they’re simply given the benefit of the doubt and women die because of it
No. It means they are heartless and even moreso, have no BALLS. Here in America, they'd either be put to death, or get life in prison without the possibility of parole and other prisoners don't take kindly to child killers, so they usually take out the trash for us so our taxes don't continue to pay for these monster's oxygen. You all in the UK are cowards and pedophilia doesn't bother y'all at all, or you'd fight to have your laws changed . Yet you don't you just sit around and complain, but do nothing to make a change Look at prince Andrew. How long are you going to continue to cover up for that pedophile?
@@weirdloverwilde just dreadful.
Fun Fact - Angus Sinclair died in his cell alone in 2019.
It feels like in the past, before technological advances and psychological profiling, as long as you committed a murder that had nothing to do with anyone you knew, or was a fair enough distance away, you were pretty much home free.
"He was the runt of the litter and he was also small" wow what an expert hahaha
what a nice man christines brother is,a family of values and dignity,im so sorry for them,the pain will never go awasy,RIP Helen and Christine
The judges who don't sentence criminals appropriately should be jailed too for utter negligence
Let out for his first murder in 7 yrs. Another example of British “justice”. A sick joke.
Yup! 👍👍👍
Just knowing that she spent her first check on a nice designer coat, was probably really excited about wearing it that night, and someone decided to murder her.
The story shouldn’t have ended like that. 😔
If a minor kills, they must be tried as adults, otherwise they'll be released to kill again.
They'll also be RELEASED AS ADULTS... STUPID LAWS, STUPID LAWYERS, STUPID JUDGES, STUPID PAROLE BOARDS !!! 😣😣😣
@@dinahjackson8146 You're right 👍
the fact he was interrupted had time to come to his senses and he legit went back n got himself all ready again and still did it
Some people don't deserve to suck air. There is a place for the death penalty.
It was abolished for good reason.
“Nothing would stop him from reoffending and he showed no remorse.” Sounds much more like a politician.
Except this guy is a killer
@@joaquimrodriguez8961 Where is the difference.
That they don't get punished for their actions
Excellent! 😂🤣😅🤣😂
@@tehArgento 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😂
I'll say it again love the narrator's voice! ☺️
Fred Dinage
I live in NY and we have harsh sentences but there has to be a middle ground between USA sentences and UK weak sentences
They are harsh in America bc criminals don´t deserve less.
must have won their police and justice licence in an Easter egg back then
This is why the death penalty for sex offenders should be enacted
37 years is the longest sentence in Scottish history? Coming from the US it just boggles the mind!
Almost a million subs. Nice!!!
There is a point in time when someone who commits a horrific crime is beyond the point where rehabilitation is possible. Not only does capital punishment create a deserved punishment that I equal to the crime committed, it provides a safety net for the rest of the society. A sentence of death prevents that person from committing another horrific crime. It also reduces the influence that person would have on prison populations, which may influence behaviors and choices of non-violent offenders upon their release.
Colin that is a very lucid comment.
It's definitely appropriate for violent psychopaths, including sexual murderers, because they're known to be impossible to change via punishment or therapy.
Love the fact that all these cold cases are finally being solved w/ DNA & genetic genealogy, and bringing as much tranquility & closure as can ever really be achieved… to the victims, their families & loved ones. More importantly, it’s enabling the capture of those whom would otherwise be potential, future, serial killers… stopping them in their tracks, after the first crimes, never getting the chance to repeat them. Hopefully, preventing their reign of terror & murder career from growing or reaching the number & degree of deviance they would have in decades prior.
Prayers for the victims & their families. Glad we could learn from each and every crime and the victims were never forgotten.
Can’t believe the other inmates did kill him back than in 1961
That’s all a little girls life was worth? Seven years? Sentences in Europe are shockingly and shamefully light
11 kids and they did nothing about it. That's crazy!!!
Angus died in 2019.
That's bittersweet, because the longer he lived, the longer he would be languishing in prison with no hope of ever getting out.
Now he just ceases to exist, which is also nice.
I don't agree Angus should have been dealt the same horror he spewed .languishing in prison is still being alive.i think he and others like him should be put through a shredder.if you don't have the stomach for it ,I will gladly do it.in prison you are still active while the people or person that is destroyed is not.lanquish in prison you make a good point if you mean being hung upside down with their head in a bucket of shit .I wonder if you are aware of what you write.
My heart goes out to the families for their desperately 💔 😢 sad loss.
Forensic science is my favourite field of humanitarian research campaigning.
Why spend so much effort investigating if the sentences are so fucking ridiculous
Geoffrey wansell is the man, really intelligent man. Mrs. Yardley is “significant to me”
It's up to the citizens to go after judges and lawyers that allow this to happen. Don't punish them in the courts, punish them in the streets. They will stop this behavior of allowing obvious killers to walk free.
Judges and lawyers DON'T make the laws alone. You are a citizen? You are a voter? If yes, it's up to YOU to change the law to something more fitting. It's up to citizens to change what's wrong.
That's not how you solve the problem. Lawyers and Judges are bound to the laws, not the authors of the law. The laws have to be changed. If anyone is to seek justice on child molesters, it should be voters advocating to have those laws changed. However, let me add that many of these offenders are killed in the prison system. All child molesters should be castrated as a matter of standard practice.
If you're advocating vigilante action judges and lawyers (who don't make laws) then you've got a problem too. Mob rule is ugly, stupid and criminal. Its not up to the public to be judge and jury. Mob rule inevitably leads to innocents being harmed, because mobs act without proof or evidence.
The narrator voice 👍
To me sounded like he was being sand buried by the sea. He carried on narrating till the end though. Raspy throat, *riccola* 😝🤢
Fred Dineage is his name
We just don't take violent sexual offenders seriously until they kill, and sometimes not even then.
Another case where the police "didn't connect the dots".
37 years is the longest sentence in Scottish history?? They have a fundamental problem with juris prudence!
He only served seven years! He should have gotten life. Scotland allows 17 yo kids to go into bars and drink, wow. Not here in America, the drinking age is 21.
Some bars and nite club in Scotland you have to be 21 years old …but most pub are 18 in UK 🇬🇧
“…But they had not yet been proven to be the Worlds End Murderers…It would take intelligent police work…”🤔
So I gather that they never were proved to be the Murderers. 😆
The age of being served alcohol in a pub in the UK is 18?
back then, most of us were in pubs from around 14 !
Law is stupid how can he get 10 years for killing a poor 7 year old kid
Released after seven years for killing an Eight years old kid? Are you serious? WT(F) is that? Now, after he killed more and more, you want to see his old Assssss in pension till he dies? What is the point?
Seems like they'd never find anybody if it wasn't for "dog walkers." Seriously.
Can you make one about anatoly moskvin?
9:35 is probably the creepiest photo of a child that I have ever seen because of the way his smile looks.
That's little Catherine Reehill, his first murder victim.
Shows no remorse for raping and killing a seven year old child, gets ten years and released after seven. I don't care if it WAS the 60s, that is pathetic!!!
Seems to me, there's a shit-ton of "World's Most Evil Killers". Shockingly so.
Why the hell are 17 and 18 year olds having a night out partying at the fucking pub anyway?..... Where the hell were their parents? Legal drinking age doesn't mean shit when all adults are fully aware of just how young 17 and 18 really is......
How did Gordon die??
It didn’t usually happen here! Swear half these criminal psychologists are broken records, murder has to start somewhere…
What were they thinking after just 7 years?
Key words "Street Justice"
Edinburrow, Scotland
WHHHY, was these CHILDREN ALLOWED TO BE IN A BAR DRINKING ??? They are IMMATURE at that AGE... GOOD GRIEF, SMELL THE COFFEE !!!!! 😣😣😣😣😣
Back in the 70's in England, we all used to go to pubs, have a drink, go dancing. We never thought about rapes and murder, never entered our heads. We would have been horrified to be called a child.
That's what you take from this story?
@@nicolerains991 That's ( ONE ) thing I take from this story... 😔
I was relieved to hear this wan't the work of Angus Podgorney.
Hahahahahahahahahaha!!! 🤣😆
Is there a podcast for this? Would be awesome to listen while at work
If you put addblocker on your phone you can listen without the adverts on RUclips. I've got the one that looks like a red and blue street sign. I use it with earphones while I go to sleep. Obviously the data used if not on WiFi can be a bugger
If you pay for premium you can turn off your phone screen and just listen, also you can download the videos and watch/listen while not using data/wifi
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@@justintime1307 I didn’t see your reply but thank you!
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It astonishes me that he was released early after his first crime. I'm in the US. We release people early as well, but not people who commit a crime like that. Also, in the US, he almost certainly would have been convicted as an adult and gotten an adult sentence.
Could Sinclair be linked to the barrowlands murders ?
Some of these accents are thick damn
I would have been waiting for him outside the prison,he wouldn't have got very far...I'd rather do time myself than see a murderer of my family walk free. Same old justice system paying little attention to the future,nothing changes they're still at it......
No serial killer has been released in last 20 years
Imagine knowing that these men did violent sexual crimes and not having vigilante justice served. Sometimes I think every aspect of our society, even the good people, are all evil deep down. We should never have evolved past monkeys. The Earth would be better off for it.
I don't believe in the death penalty ,However we're children are concerned they need either the death penalty or never see the light of day again I also think the sentence of life is far to short if you kill you need to pay life should mean life they've taken a life
why do the captions work and then stop after commercial. Please fix
Interesting case
39:25-39:40 I thought 'Double Jeopardy' laws only applied to countries with Common-Law/Adversarial legal systems?. Scotland has the Inqusitorial/Civil Law legal system.
thank u sir
DNA material from a old decorating job? What's that?
They didn't like the outcome they got the first time although it was the fault of the prosecution for being lazy and assuming the judge would automatically agree with them. So they decided to repeal an entire law, although it was probably put in place for good reason. Sounds about right.
So the take away double jeopardy and apply the change so as to use the changed law ex post facto to get the guy. Justice?
Why go to all the effort to prove someone was one of the perpetrators when he’s already dead AF? 🙃
The thing the I don’t understand is why it have to wait soooooooooooooooo much and he comiteted so many killings over the years to catch a killer???!!!!!
I just don’t get it!!
"He is cruel wicked noting will stop him doing that stuff 10 years he would get in adult prison" but he sould of gotten life in prison without parole and would would of bean feeling better
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I am sorry!
Once again, police 's bad job.These monsters should never be out!
I found this to be well done until that narcissistic American started talking. The documentary was not about him(Julian Beaver). It was about the inappropriate sexual acts by Sinclair.
THE JUDGE WAS LAZY. TIME FOR HIM TO RETIRE... SHOULD NOT BE THERE...
10 years for murder pfft
Life for a life if that was the case then the other victims would have lived. My blood went cold waching this one I work up the royal mile I played in the gosford estate near Aberlady as a boy
Don’t keep him in jail let him out and be friend with the victims families
17 yr olds that can hang in a bar though?
I'm not sure if the dates work at all. But, just in case, have these 2 ever been looked at for the Bible John murders?
What about Sinclair's wife and family ,
I remember when the girls went missing, passed the pub many times when up in Edinburgh. The name always stuck with me. I didn't know his wife was a Nurse. A paedophile prison, really. Is it in Glasgow ? Thanks for your open comment. Really interesting.
50 commercials. Nope
The should start giving the death penalty wtf do u mean justice has been served
It amaze me that a f 6 year old could pin a killer by smell!
I used to go to the boys social club there..
The characters began very interestingly , but the NARRATOR can't seem to find his consistent legitimate ACCENT ? Find a Scotsman or a Brit but this guy is annoying.
Fuckin’ Scotland straight away. No surprise 💀. Rip to the victims.
They had him after the first child.
this show always goes back to find an excuse for the killers it was not easy for most people in this world growing up yet we are no killers ect.
Probably so we can see the psychology on why a specific individual chose to kill
Do they serve under age girls in a pub
Whats the drinking age in Scottland?
18
What did the wife think ??
She loves the attention.
They are NOT women, THEY ARE TEENS!!!