Yes, absolutely. There were even entire fanzines dedicated to Spock, often edited by female fans. Many of them were fantasy erotica with female protagonists having intimate relationships with Spock. "Kraith" comes to mind. There were also several BDSM Star Trek fanzines about similar relationships between Kirk and Spock!
His buried feelings, but also, they saw the compassion in his low-emotion ways. I can't quite call them emotion-free or purely logical, because peel back enough layers and you end up with some irrational (though solid) precepts, such as the diversity of the universe is a wonderful thing, and people should be free to live their lives. And the sheer confidence of this guy: he's smarter and stronger than any human, but he's got nothing to prove. Why would he need to prove anything? It would serve no worthwhile ends.
12:58 Mark! Hehe! The writer perhaps didn't know that during World War 2, because males were off doing the fighting, it was up to the single girls and married women to do a lot of jobs, both old and new alike! One of the then new jobs was being a "Computer"! Yep, it was a job title before it was a machine term! 😅 They manually did the calculations that machine computers do now. These females were one of the early demographics that learned and experienced what it was like to lose a job, trade, profession, or career to machines when mechanical analog computers were upgraded into, or replaced by, electronic analog computers! 😮
20:23 Mark! 1,034 Views + Mine! 🎉 Thumb Up #124! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊 Notes: Hmm. With "Computer Landru" people got "Absorbed"! With the Borg people get "Assimilated"! In this episode the Spores "Influence" people I guess. 🤔 I was going to make a list of ways to be forced to not be yourself, and if you could chose one option out of all of them, which one would it be and why, but that would take awhile! 😮 Kirk is the only one forced to switch bodies with a woman! The actress, not counting Carol Burnett skits, is the only one to play him! While for William Shatner it was just one more alternative character! 😎
11:13 Mark! Hmm. Doctor McCoy, if he was allowed to do so by writers, could use those spores as a medical alternative to that mind beam chair from a previous episode! 🤔
Loved your reaction to this as well as empathizing with Spock. That's why Spock is such a great character, his internal conflict between emotions and intellect is a very human metaphor for the internal conflicts we can all go through in life. What we want to do and what's the right thing to do can be two different things. Any good episode for Spock is a good Star Trek episode! :D
Several years ago IDW Comics published a set of all-new, original Star Trek photonovels. Leila Kalomi made a surprise return in one of them. When you read the book, the right-page lower right corner panel teased the next page. Then you turned the page and Leila was there, smiling (with her word balloon) on the next page, top left corner of the book. As soon as I turned that page and saw Leila there, I heard the "Leila" theme (which was originally the "Ruth" theme from "Shore Leave") strike up in my mind!
The Annotated Star Trek: * This episode was inspired by the story of the Lotus Eaters in Homer's "The Odyssey." * F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote a classic novel titled, "This Side of Paradise." * For the first time, we learned details about Spock's parents: His mother was a teacher and his father was an ambassador. We will take a deep dive into these characters and learn much more about Vulcan in Season Two. Also, Spock just experienced the love of his life in this episode. Very soon, Jim Kirk will experience the love of his life, too. His love will have the potential to change history forever, at great personal cost to himself. And he will experience it all in ...The City on the Edge of Forever.
12:40 Mark! I'm seemingly always conflating the two sexy "Ireland" actresses that were famous before Supermodel Kathy Ireland! One is a ginger/redhead, and the other is this blonde, and one of them became the wife of actor Charles Bronson! 😎 Sadly, though, he became a widower. 😢
Martin Sloane's father, yes!!! That's my favorite "Twilight Zone" episode. Not "It's a cookbook!" Not "I had time--time enough at last!" Not, "You're a BAD man!" Not "Room for one more, honey!" And not, "My name is 'Talking Tina."" It's "Walking Distance!!!"
@@davidgradwell8830 Me too, although some of the ones you mentioned are also pretty good. When Rod Serling's brother saw the episode, he said, "I had no idea Rod missed Binghamton so much."
@@AlexxaReacts The original series from the 60s is the best. Some of the episodes were decent. Some were stupid, and some were unforgettable. Two good ones are "Walking Distance," as I mentioned, and "The Man Who Was Never Born." "The Outer Limits" from the same era is also very good. Two amazing episodes are "The Sixth Finger" and "Demon With a Glass Hand." In the latter, the female lead will show up in the "Trek" 2nd season.
Really liked this episode and yes, had felt sad for Spock's comment at the end of the story. Loved your reaction and this episode did have funny moments in it. Awesome.
We've never really witnessed just how much stronger Spock is before this ep. We're already aware of his intelligence at this point, but combined with such strength he could give Khan a run for his money. Just glad the Vulcans are on our side!
9:59 "This is _mutiny,_ mister." 🤔 Is it? I mean, they're not trying to take the ship _from_ him. They're not trying to put him _off_ the ship. It's dereliction of _duty,_ perhaps.
Well, disobeying a direct order from a superior officer is also considered mutiny. An act of mutiny might be as simple and low-key as that; no need to brandish cutlasses or set the captain adrift somewhere.
She was also the story editor and thus largely responsible for the cohesive continuity of Vulcan-themed stories. "Journey to Babel" is a key example of this and so is "Yesteryear" in the animated series. She and Theodore Sturgeon laid the foundations for Star Trek's still-growing Vulcan mythology. But, I don't want to spoil things for Alexxa, so the least said the better!
D.C. Fontana wanted to write a love story for Spock and came up with the spoors to do that. The majority of the character development (with one major exception) for Spock was written by her throughout the series. Great writer but she had to hide behind male pen names to get her stories accepted in the 1950s and 60s. She worked as Roddenberry's secretary initially on Star Trek. Interestingly the first script she sold was A Bounty for Billy on a Western series The Tall Man and coincidentally the guest star on that episode was Leonard Nimoy. See short interview clip. ruclips.net/video/CacuPpwkH0I/видео.htmlsi=jve_CAWA_y-d821t
Alexxa, @brandonflorida1092 and I have been discussing "The Twilight Zone" (as it relates to Star Trek--and there are plenty of connections!) Please consider one day undertaking "The Twilight Zone (1959-65)" as a future project for your channel. That would be a truly worthy subject for you, too. Star Trek and Twilight Zone are often mentioned with reverence in the same breath--with good reason. You will absolutely revel in the wonders of "The Twilight Zone!" Thank you!
@@AlexxaReacts "Witness if you will a new convert to the wondrous world of that unique series which we call...The Twilight Zone." Rod Serling (Well, not really, but it sounds like him.)
I can't remember which behind the scenes recollection covered this episode. But Nimoy was a bit nervous about his scenes with Jill Ireland because of one tough Charles Bronson!
So THAT'S how Spock hangs out when he's off duty! Was he happy because he got the girl, or because he got to beat the crap out of Kirk? The actress who played Layla was in the early stages of a relationship (and eventual marriage) with Charles Bronson, one of the biggest action stars of the day. He visited her on the set, and apparently he was pretty intimidating in person. That must have made for some interesting tension!
Yes. And it's a pity that Charles Bronson wasn't ever a Star Trek guest star, too. His career reached its peak shortly before the Star Trek movies started production and he would have been ideally cast in a supporting role in one of them. (Perhaps, as a Starfleet Admiral, or even as a Klingon Commander!)
@@stevejoshua9536 It is. It came out at the same time as Timothy Leary’s ‘turn on, tune in, drop out’ philosophy was becoming more popular and more young people were using LSD.
There were a few other occasions where McCoy would just go full Southern on people. In ST: TNG's first episode, "Encounter at Farpoint," the ancient Admiral McCoy is chatting with Data, who reminds him a lot of Spock. McCoy famously scrutinizes Data and says, "I don't see no points on your ears, boy!" (Sorry for the spoiler, Alexxa!) BTW, Alexxa, there's an old Star Trek tradition--though I think it's fallen by the wayside recently--where a character, again played by that character's original actor, from the previous Star Trek franchise makes a little cameo appearance in the first episode of the newest franchise as a way of "seeing off the new crew" or "passing the torch," as it were. It started with the moment I just referenced and continued through a few more series. The movie "Star Trek: Generations" was completely crossover. Also, Leonard Nimoy "saw off" the crew in the re-boot Star Trek (2009 movie) to keep the tradition going.
10:14 Mark! Instead of stranding the captain and keeping the vessel, they are stranding themselves and letting the captain keep his vessel! 😂😅
You're not alone. Many women were fascinated, in love with Spock in the late 60's and 70's. Wanted to bring out his buried feelings.
Yes, absolutely. There were even entire fanzines dedicated to Spock, often edited by female fans. Many of them were fantasy erotica with female protagonists having intimate relationships with Spock. "Kraith" comes to mind.
There were also several BDSM Star Trek fanzines about similar relationships between Kirk and Spock!
His buried feelings, but also, they saw the compassion in his low-emotion ways. I can't quite call them emotion-free or purely logical, because peel back enough layers and you end up with some irrational (though solid) precepts, such as the diversity of the universe is a wonderful thing, and people should be free to live their lives.
And the sheer confidence of this guy: he's smarter and stronger than any human, but he's got nothing to prove. Why would he need to prove anything? It would serve no worthwhile ends.
12:58 Mark! Hehe! The writer perhaps didn't know that during World War 2, because males were off doing the fighting, it was up to the single girls and married women to do a lot of jobs, both old and new alike! One of the then new jobs was being a "Computer"! Yep, it was a job title before it was a machine term! 😅
They manually did the calculations that machine computers do now. These females were one of the early demographics that learned and experienced what it was like to lose a job, trade, profession, or career to machines when mechanical analog computers were upgraded into, or replaced by, electronic analog computers! 😮
Saddest line in TOS, "For the first time in my life I was happy."
So sad!! 😢
20:23 Mark! 1,034 Views + Mine! 🎉 Thumb Up #124! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊
Notes: Hmm. With "Computer Landru" people got "Absorbed"!
With the Borg people get "Assimilated"!
In this episode the Spores "Influence" people I guess. 🤔
I was going to make a list of ways to be forced to not be yourself, and if you could chose one option out of all of them, which one would it be and why, but that would take awhile! 😮
Kirk is the only one forced to switch bodies with a woman! The actress, not counting Carol Burnett skits, is the only one to play him! While for William Shatner it was just one more alternative character! 😎
11:13 Mark! Hmm. Doctor McCoy, if he was allowed to do so by writers, could use those spores as a medical alternative to that mind beam chair from a previous episode! 🤔
Loved your reaction to this as well as empathizing with Spock. That's why Spock is such a great character, his internal conflict between emotions and intellect is a very human metaphor for the internal conflicts we can all go through in life. What we want to do and what's the right thing to do can be two different things. Any good episode for Spock is a good Star Trek episode! :D
1:39 Mark! Howdy! 🤠 Hmm. If that set is a redress of one from "TAGS" after all of these decades I still don't recognize it! 😮😁
Several years ago IDW Comics published a set of all-new, original Star Trek photonovels. Leila Kalomi made a surprise return in one of them. When you read the book, the right-page lower right corner panel teased the next page. Then you turned the page and Leila was there, smiling (with her word balloon) on the next page, top left corner of the book.
As soon as I turned that page and saw Leila there, I heard the "Leila" theme (which was originally the "Ruth" theme from "Shore Leave") strike up in my mind!
The Annotated Star Trek:
* This episode was inspired by the story of the Lotus Eaters in Homer's "The Odyssey."
* F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote a classic novel titled, "This Side of Paradise."
* For the first time, we learned details about Spock's parents: His mother was a teacher and his father was an ambassador. We will take a deep dive into these characters and learn much more about Vulcan in Season Two.
Also,
Spock just experienced the love of his life in this episode. Very soon, Jim Kirk will experience the love of his life, too. His love will have the potential to change history forever, at great personal cost to himself. And he will experience it all in ...The City on the Edge of Forever.
Always enjoy your reactions Alexxa, another great episode.
12:40 Mark! I'm seemingly always conflating the two sexy "Ireland" actresses that were famous before Supermodel Kathy Ireland! One is a ginger/redhead, and the other is this blonde, and one of them became the wife of actor Charles Bronson! 😎 Sadly, though, he became a widower. 😢
The actor who plays Elias Sandoval gives a great performance in the brilliant, unforgettable "Twilight Zone" episode "Walking Distance."
Martin Sloane's father, yes!!! That's my favorite "Twilight Zone" episode. Not "It's a cookbook!" Not "I had time--time enough at last!" Not, "You're a BAD man!" Not "Room for one more, honey!" And not, "My name is 'Talking Tina."" It's "Walking Distance!!!"
@@davidgradwell8830 Me too, although some of the ones you mentioned are also pretty good. When Rod Serling's brother saw the episode, he said, "I had no idea Rod missed Binghamton so much."
@@brandonflorida1092 Nostalgia takes the strangest forms in that unique corner of the imagination that we call..."The Twilight Zone..."
I've never seen the Twilight Zone!
@@AlexxaReacts The original series from the 60s is the best. Some of the episodes were decent. Some were stupid, and some were unforgettable. Two good ones are "Walking Distance," as I mentioned, and "The Man Who Was Never Born."
"The Outer Limits" from the same era is also very good. Two amazing episodes are "The Sixth Finger" and "Demon With a Glass Hand." In the latter, the female lead will show up in the "Trek" 2nd season.
Really liked this episode and yes, had felt sad for Spock's comment at the end of the story. Loved your reaction and this episode did have funny moments in it. Awesome.
One of the best TOS episodes. A classic!
It’s my number 5! Just edged out of 4 by one coming up.
Loved your video, it's a great episode of Star Trek, really makes you think 🙂
2:18 😏Ah, the music. That "love is in the air" music. Usually, it plays for Kirk, but not this time.
We've never really witnessed just how much stronger Spock is before this ep. We're already aware of his intelligence at this point, but combined with such strength he could give Khan a run for his money. Just glad the Vulcans are on our side!
I wonder who is stronger, Vulcans or Gorn?
@@RLucas3000 Based on all the Trek-verse stuff in my head, all the novels, games....I would say the Gorn.
9:59 "This is _mutiny,_ mister."
🤔 Is it? I mean, they're not trying to take the ship _from_ him. They're not trying to put him _off_ the ship. It's dereliction of _duty,_ perhaps.
Well, disobeying a direct order from a superior officer is also considered mutiny. An act of mutiny might be as simple and low-key as that; no need to brandish cutlasses or set the captain adrift somewhere.
D.C. Fontana wrote many . She was a lady, and used her initials to disguise it.
Dorothy Fontana
She was also the story editor and thus largely responsible for the cohesive continuity of Vulcan-themed stories. "Journey to Babel" is a key example of this and so is "Yesteryear" in the animated series. She and Theodore Sturgeon laid the foundations for Star Trek's still-growing Vulcan mythology. But, I don't want to spoil things for Alexxa, so the least said the better!
@@davidgradwell8830 And story editor meant a lot of script modifications.
D.C. Fontana wanted to write a love story for Spock and came up with the spoors to do that. The majority of the character development (with one major exception) for Spock was written by her throughout the series.
Great writer but she had to hide behind male pen names to get her stories accepted in the 1950s and 60s. She worked as Roddenberry's secretary initially on Star Trek. Interestingly the first script she sold was A Bounty for Billy on a Western series The Tall Man and coincidentally the guest star on that episode was Leonard Nimoy. See short interview clip.
ruclips.net/video/CacuPpwkH0I/видео.htmlsi=jve_CAWA_y-d821t
Alexxa,
@brandonflorida1092 and I have been discussing "The Twilight Zone" (as it relates to Star Trek--and there are plenty of connections!) Please consider one day undertaking "The Twilight Zone (1959-65)" as a future project for your channel. That would be a truly worthy subject for you, too. Star Trek and Twilight Zone are often mentioned with reverence in the same breath--with good reason. You will absolutely revel in the wonders of "The Twilight Zone!" Thank you!
I will add it to my list!
@@AlexxaReacts "Witness if you will a new convert to the wondrous world of that unique series which we call...The Twilight Zone." Rod Serling (Well, not really, but it sounds like him.)
I can't remember which behind the scenes recollection covered this episode. But Nimoy was a bit nervous about his scenes with Jill Ireland because of one tough Charles Bronson!
So THAT'S how Spock hangs out when he's off duty! Was he happy because he got the girl, or because he got to beat the crap out of Kirk?
The actress who played Layla was in the early stages of a relationship (and eventual marriage) with Charles Bronson, one of the biggest action stars of the day. He visited her on the set, and apparently he was pretty intimidating in person. That must have made for some interesting tension!
Yes. And it's a pity that Charles Bronson wasn't ever a Star Trek guest star, too. His career reached its peak shortly before the Star Trek movies started production and he would have been ideally cast in a supporting role in one of them. (Perhaps, as a Starfleet Admiral, or even as a Klingon Commander!)
I say both! 😉
"...right next to the dog-faced boy..." Great dialogue from Kirk. The writers must have had a blast writing this speech.
Yep that was the line that made Spock snap, not the comments about his parents lol
@@photonicusI think it was cumulative lol
This episode is a thinly veiled anti drug allegory.
If you say so
@@stevejoshua9536 It is. It came out at the same time as Timothy Leary’s ‘turn on, tune in, drop out’ philosophy was becoming more popular and more young people were using LSD.
The biggest loser....Leila!
She finally found a workaround to fall in love with Mr Spock. And get love and return. But in the end, she lost him.
This is one of my top 5 episodes. Mostly because Spock gets to Rock and Roll🎸😎 That said, I'm not thrilled about McCoys goofy attempt to be Southern.
There were a few other occasions where McCoy would just go full Southern on people. In ST: TNG's first episode, "Encounter at Farpoint," the ancient Admiral McCoy is chatting with Data, who reminds him a lot of Spock. McCoy famously scrutinizes Data and says, "I don't see no points on your ears, boy!" (Sorry for the spoiler, Alexxa!)
BTW, Alexxa, there's an old Star Trek tradition--though I think it's fallen by the wayside recently--where a character, again played by that character's original actor, from the previous Star Trek franchise makes a little cameo appearance in the first episode of the newest franchise as a way of "seeing off the new crew" or "passing the torch," as it were. It started with the moment I just referenced and continued through a few more series. The movie "Star Trek: Generations" was completely crossover. Also, Leonard Nimoy "saw off" the crew in the re-boot Star Trek (2009 movie) to keep the tradition going.
I can imagine female fans loving this one as Spock was a sex symbol by this episode.