Epson Workforce 7710 vs Epson SureColor F170 | Print Quality and Speed Test

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @antellmarkus9568
    @antellmarkus9568 Год назад +1

    Both works just fine with the right quality papers and you got the bleeding on the bottle because the bottle was tapering off at the top.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  Год назад +1

      Thanks for your comment.

  • @yasersmart2335
    @yasersmart2335 2 года назад +1

    Thanks man, I will buy one and tell you my opinion

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад +1

      Awesome, i will await to here how it goes for you.

    • @yasersmart2335
      @yasersmart2335 2 года назад +1

      @@atprints ok , I gave you my ward , but forgive me if I forget , because it seem difficult to buy from American, and this product not really available, not even in Amazon , for example I asked Grimco shop , they refuse to sell for me because I am not American, sorry man for involving you with my problem , I am just telling you why may I forget , it will take long time to get it , but I will do it anyway

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад +1

      @@yasersmart2335 it’s totally ok. Take your times. One step at a time.

    • @yasersmart2335
      @yasersmart2335 2 года назад

      I’ll , I’ll inshalla

  • @mrfoameruk
    @mrfoameruk Год назад +1

    my only comment was I believe the Epson normal ink machines need an ICC colour profile when printing so the colours are better, as normal ink has a different ICC. so if it is just printed without this sublimation ink ICC, blues and greens tend to be off. Did this have an updated ICC? Good work. It's a shame you didn't have 100% polyester.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  Год назад

      Thanks for your comment at the time the ICC wasnt updated.

  • @vijoshbabu8329
    @vijoshbabu8329 2 года назад +1

    Thanks bro

  • @MissLucy7532
    @MissLucy7532 3 года назад +7

    I am so glad I ran across your video because I have been sitting here for the last couple of days trying to decide on a sublimation printer I follow a lot of crafting groups and the Epson WorkForce 7710 has been real popular but it has to be converted and I have been checking the price on those and they are really expensive the prices I found were between $500 - $700 there is no way that I would pay that price for a printer that has to be converted and once it's converted you lose the warranty on it so I contacted the Epson company and they said they came out with a new sublimation printer for $399 so then I wanted to see some comparison videos and I must say you had the perfect one for me and I'm glad you did so now you have a new subscriber and the images are both beautiful from both of these printers but I will be purchasing the Epson ET 170 and I am going to sit and watch all the videos necessary on your page thank you so much for sharing and helping me make my decision

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +2

      Thanks so much for your comment, support and subscribing.
      I am truly happy to know that my video helped you a lot with your decision. I believe you are making the correct choice with the F170. Before the WF7710 was the thing but it’s best to purchase an original sublimation printer, ranger than one that’s not then you have to convert it. A lot of times the converted printers can gives some trouble in between. But your on the right track and I hope others will also get the same impact you got.
      Thanks so much again 👍👍

    • @missyleftrick5525
      @missyleftrick5525 2 года назад

      @lucy nunn did you purchase the F170 and how do you like it? I heard yesterday it really only works well with 100% white polyester. Can you confirm that?

  • @tshirtdesigner2106
    @tshirtdesigner2106 3 года назад +1

    I'm all for the Epson Sure Color F170. Color more vibrant.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @badgeunderground6936
    @badgeunderground6936 3 года назад +2

    Great video. Bought ah surecolor today. I'm new to this sublimation stuff. Shout out from Barbados 🇧🇧 🇧🇧.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      Awesome. You will love it and would to the sublimation world. 💪💪

  • @lynnettejackson3892
    @lynnettejackson3892 3 года назад +6

    The sure color seem to have a higher brightness to it, giving off a more vibrant quality. I would surely work with both but I favor the sure color f 170

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      Yuppie. A lot of persons love the F170. It’s truly amazing.

  • @pleappleappleap
    @pleappleappleap 2 года назад

    Can these printers make direct fine art prints to paper, or only transfer prints?

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад

      Sorry for the late reply. You can print direct fine art. The printer also have the different paper settings.

  • @1suechr
    @1suechr 3 года назад +2

    I have owned a wf7710 replaced it with a wf7720 the only difference is wf7720 has 2 trays. I did need to print every other day on my wf printers or my print heads would dry up and that was hours and a lot of ink to fix. My Surecolor f170 I have left for a week with no issues. If you flip down the front of the paper tray on the Surecolor f170 you can print 8.5 x 14 as it ment to do. The other reason for pre pressing is to get moisture out. I must say, I miss being able on larger paper.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment 👍🏾👍🏾.
      So did you get rid of the Epson printers?

  • @lynnettejackson3892
    @lynnettejackson3892 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for all that you do. Blessings….

  • @GeraldGriffith
    @GeraldGriffith 2 года назад +1

    There are three things at play here and the comparison doesn't really explain this well.
    1. There's the hardware which is evaluated based on things like speed and longevity.
    2. There's the ink which is what we see when you print the sheet.
    3. Lastly, there is the final outcome after pressing.
    There's also an issue with evaluation of the two printer papers since one is actually designed to absorb ink and the other is not. They have very different intended uses.
    Still a good video, but it's important to know what's being evaluated and how to describe it more clearly.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your input.

  • @missyleftrick5525
    @missyleftrick5525 2 года назад +1

    I’m glad you did this video!!! Thank you for such an informative video!

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад +2

      I am happy i could bring value. You are most welcome.

    • @missyleftrick5525
      @missyleftrick5525 2 года назад +1

      @@atprints I was just told the F170 only works on 100% white polyester. Is that true?

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад +2

      @@missyleftrick5525 Thanks for your question once again. This is not totally true. The F170 can be used for a lot of sublimation blanks and products. Lets talk materials. With the F170 you can print on sublimate on 50-100% polyester. However, you must note that the higher the polyester the better when it comes to sublimating. You can also use Polylinen. If you try sublimating on a cotton shirt the ink will wash out after 2-3 washes and it will not look good. Some silk material also works with sublimation.
      Lets talk sublimation blanks. With the F170 just like any sublimation printer you can print and sublimate on mugs, plates puzzles, tumblers, bottles and much more once those items are coated or prepared for the sublimation process.
      I hope this answer gives some more clarity.

    • @missyleftrick5525
      @missyleftrick5525 2 года назад +1

      @@atprints oh my goodness yes! So really it’s no different than taking another printer and converting it to sublimation.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад +2

      @@missyleftrick5525 Very lovely question. Well lets talk about that. Many people convert printers into a sublimation printer. Now this happened a lot before and still happens now but it happen a lot before because there really wasn't a true sublimation printer. However, this F170 is a recent printer that came on the market as they realize that a lot of persons wee converting other printers.
      However, there is so much i can say on this lol. But to make it short and to the point. Both converted and original can work but if you ask me which one works best then its a little hard to decide because i get great quality from the converted on which is the Epson WF7710 and also the F170. But all in all the F170 is a true sublimation printer and what I can tell you or recommend is if you have not purchased a printer as yet and you are looking to get a sublimation printer I would advise to get the F170 and not to purchase a normal printer to then convert it.
      Some persons get lucky when they convert and it works awesome and some gets a lot of problems. What I would say is if you are looking to print bigger than 8.5 x 11 or 14 then it would be good to buy a bigger printer that can be converted into a sublimation printer so you can get bigger prints. Also note there a bigger sublimation printers like the F570 but those are a bit pricy and can print up to 24 inches.
      For me I advise persons to get the true sublimation printer because it saves you a lot of trouble. Even with my Epson Converted WF7710 sometimes it may stop during a print job and say the ink is not recognized. But the F170 is a wonderful printer.
      As i mention there is so much i can talk about and feel free to reach out to me on Instagram or Facebook and we can chat some more and i can answer all your questions. All my links to my social media is in the description section.
      I know this was a long message but I hope it brought clarity.

  • @veronicareid5224
    @veronicareid5224 3 года назад +2

    Not being bias the f170 is faster color brighter
    Nevertheless they both work really good

    • @veronicareid5224
      @veronicareid5224 3 года назад +1

      Great work Allan the 170 sure color can almost get 2 press from one print printers are like mother and.daugther loll love the video

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад

      Thanks very much for your comment on the printers. Yes the F170 works really well.

  • @judyblaise1639
    @judyblaise1639 3 года назад +1

    The bottle looks good. Were the inks the same in both machines?
    The Surecolor had brighter colors in the print on Asub paper and the cloth.
    The copy paper was close and the material was close too but Surecolor was a little better.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comments and questions. The inks were different but both were sublimation inks.

  • @HOLYWOODSAINTS
    @HOLYWOODSAINTS 3 года назад +1

    I like the F170 picture quality but I would prefer the 7710 because I can print on bigger size paper 13"x19".

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад

      💪💪💪💪💪

  • @eXpansiveconsciousness
    @eXpansiveconsciousness 3 года назад +2

    Your blacks were deeper with good vibrancy & saturation with the Surecolor on the bird photo, but then looked the opposite with the Workforce on the butterfly photo. Maybe you can standardize the substrate used in another test video & also do both hard & fabric substrate types for better comparison.

  • @jetbossard7923
    @jetbossard7923 2 года назад

    I didn't think you could use regular copy paper to transfer images. I think I would stick with Sub transfer paper.

  • @FR8Productions
    @FR8Productions 3 года назад +2

    This is my big question. My wife does screen print and uses a cricut and heat press. She wants to get into sublimation printing for shirts. The F170 is more attractive to me than the sawgrass. The small paper tray is my issue. Should I pay 399 for the f170 or get a wide based printer EPSON with the conversion. Which is better? I wish I could afford the F570. 500-600 is my max budget. What would you do?

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +5

      Thanks for your question and for reaching out.
      I’ll tell you that I feel you pain. As soon as I started to read your message the first thing that came to my mind to tell you was to get the F570 but then I saw your budget. I am honestly not an expert on the sawgrass printer. But in relation to the F170 and a wide base printer then convert this is what I would do.
      I would buy the F170 and do a lot of jobs save up and then buy the F570. Let me tell you why I say this. I truly believe and I’ve been advising persons to go straight to an original sublimation printer rather than convert. With the original sublimation printer you don’t have that much issues and you can guarantee great quality most or all times. However, with the converted printer I find that there are a lot of problems that can occur such as pizza wheel, sometimes the ink isn’t recognized, sometimes because the ink is different in between jobs the printer stops and ask to install ink when the cartridge is full. So at the end of the day I would advise any and everyone to go straight for an original printer do some jobs, save and then go for the F570.
      I hope this helps and sorry for the long answer.

    • @FR8Productions
      @FR8Productions 3 года назад +4

      @@atprints thank you!!! I appreciate this advice! I agree w you as well! I also saw the cost of ink is less than half of sawgrass. Keep you posted and thank you. Worst case scenario my wife could print 2 objects and piece it together

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +2

      @@FR8Productions you are most welcome and yes she can print two images and put together. But I don’t have anything against the sawgrass but it’s a very pretty expensive machine especially the ink. For me I’m saving towards a F570.
      Keep me updated 👍🏾👍🏾

    • @andriciamalone7500
      @andriciamalone7500 2 года назад

      Epson 8850 can be converted to a sublimation

    • @illyabenson3939
      @illyabenson3939 2 года назад

      I love the advice you gave. I have been going back and fourth on which printer to purchase. After watching your video I purchase the f170 I wanted the larger one i believe its the f570 unfortunately I will get that later. Thank you for your video.

  • @lynnettejackson3892
    @lynnettejackson3892 3 года назад +2

    Wow, very beautiful. Thanks for sharing. Blessings……

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @KristieLouvenya
    @KristieLouvenya 3 года назад +1

    Great Video, thanks for showing the qualities! Helps me out with my decision.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment and I am happy this video can help you with your decision.

  • @villy4083
    @villy4083 2 года назад +1

    Great informational video! When you set the 170 up, did you have any special printer preferences or settings? Or you printed right after setup?

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for you question and comment. After setting up the printer i did not change any settings on the printer. I printed right after the setup.

    • @villy4083
      @villy4083 2 года назад +1

      @@atprints awesome thank you!

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад +1

      @@villy4083 you are welcome

    • @colleensmith4285
      @colleensmith4285 2 года назад +1

      @@atprints I’m looking at getting the sure colour Did you use a specific software to print I use Cricut Design Space. I prefer the Sure Colour. Thanks for posting this video very helpful

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад +1

      @@colleensmith4285 thanks for your comment and support. I normally use silhouette studio to print my designs but you can also use the cricut program to print designs.

  • @kendradrakes2947
    @kendradrakes2947 3 года назад +1

    Sure color all the way. I ain't able with no setup and find tuning.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for your comment. I do understand you and I agree in these times I think it’s best to just buy a sublimation printer rather than try to convert one. Now this all depends on if you have the money but it will save and benefit you in the long run. 💪💪

  • @Chicharo1971
    @Chicharo1971 3 года назад +1

    F170 specifications in the Epson site says you can print a max media size of 8.5 x14 ….

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +2

      Yes you are correct. That is something I didn’t remember to mention but when asked I do. Thanks

  • @jalisaclarke5086
    @jalisaclarke5086 3 года назад +13

    I enjoyed this video. These two printers really had a tight race but in my opinion although more ink is left back from the SureColour Printer the final product is slightly brighter and sharper than the WF7710. Great video all in all!!

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      Thanks very much for your thoughts and comments and all your support.

  • @Mommanay1214
    @Mommanay1214 3 года назад

    You can print up to legal size with the F170, up to 14inches in length

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад

      Yes you are correct. That’s one thing I didn’t mention in the video 👍🏾👍🏾

    • @angiesalazar9594
      @angiesalazar9594 3 года назад +1

      What’s the dimensions of the biggest print for the F170?

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      @@angiesalazar9594 hi you can print up to 8.5 by 14.

  • @michaelhefford6420
    @michaelhefford6420 3 года назад

    Did you use the same ink both printers? You should use blowout paper also.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад

      Hi thanks for your question. I didn't use the same ink for both. The inks were different brands.

  • @superalimgalexy64
    @superalimgalexy64 3 года назад +1

    surecolor printer tabloid paper?

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад

      I was using A-Sub paper and hammer mill multipurpose paper.

  • @atprints
    @atprints  3 года назад +1

    Check out this youtube playlist on Epson Printers 👉ruclips.net/video/OuVOahTHPsM/видео.html
    In the video I mention you can only print 8.5 x 11 but indeed you can print up to 8. X 14.

    • @jimmys511
      @jimmys511 3 года назад

      great video but what ink did you use in the epson converted printer?

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад

      @@jimmys511 thanks. I used printer jack sublimation ink 👉amzn.to/3kSt5Na

  • @rhjgold
    @rhjgold 3 года назад +1

    have you tried a metal photo print with f170 that's the real test

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      Hi, I actually was going to do some testing with Aluminum with polygloss and sublimation but I was more going to use the wf7710.

    • @rhjgold
      @rhjgold 3 года назад

      @@atprintsWell I would really like to know what quality of photo print the F170 can produce I have seen some stunning Aluminum Photos. I have a pro- 100 and IPF 6100 canon large format printers but both use pigment inks. Epson Dye printers start at 6000 dollars for large format as most know. If you do print an Aluminum photo let me know how it comes out. Mike E

  • @DJV0ICE
    @DJV0ICE 2 года назад +1

    good comparison the real question is what brand sub ink are you using for the 7710? because the surecolor uses epson T49m ultachrome dye sub ink this also makes a huge difference on what printer and paper is the best

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for your question and statement. In this case at that time i was testing the brand Xcinkjet but have alot of other inks i will be doing a comparison with in time to come. Other brands i will be doing the comparison with in time are printers jack which is amazing and also Comos ink.

  • @kristinakilby6798
    @kristinakilby6798 3 года назад

    What type of ink do you use in the F170?

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      With the F170 it comes with its own sublimation ink.

  • @GMayol-re2dj
    @GMayol-re2dj 3 года назад +1

    What brand of ink are you using on the 7710?

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      I use printer jack 👉 amzn.to/3nyAJzm

  • @carlosramirezfabian1256
    @carlosramirezfabian1256 3 года назад +1

    Hey what color profile did you use when printing from the SureColor FC170 Epson printer?

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      The use the standard profile that came with the printer.

  • @paulamorrison5948
    @paulamorrison5948 3 года назад +1

    Alan, I noticed in your comments you have a link to purchase the Eco Tank 2760 but not the F170. I'm not able to find the F170. Has it been discontinue and did you suggest the 2760 (which would need to be converted) because it is the next best compared to the F170??? Thank you much!

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for you comment and i do apologize. There are some different places you can get the F170. Take a look here on Epson's website where you just need to put in your zip code and they will tell you the closes store to you that have it👉 epson.com/For-Work/Printers/Large-Format/SureColor-F170-Dye-Sublimation-Printer/p/C11CJ80201 or you can check DigiPrint-USA 👉 digiprint-usa.com/shop/surecolor-f170-dye-sublimation-printer/
      In terms of my recommendations, I personally would advise persons if you can to just get the f170 which is an original sublimation printer. it would minimize a lot of problems you may have if you decided to get a printer that needs to be converted. Converted printers also work very great but I would recommend to persons just getting an original sublimation printer if you can afford it.
      I hope this helps.

    • @georgiasciacca2448
      @georgiasciacca2448 2 года назад +1

      @@atprints That website is of no use, I contacted them and they more or less told me to search the web.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  2 года назад +1

      @@georgiasciacca2448 I am sorry to hear this. Did you try both links?
      You can try this one and see if you can purchase it here plotterpro.com/shop/epson-surecolor-f170-dye-sublimation-printer/

  • @judyromano5088
    @judyromano5088 3 года назад +4

    I love your videos. I have the F170. it shows on Epson's website and other places where it'll print up to 42In. But no where is there a place that shows how you would load this. This would make using this printer so much better, you can split the designs and print them long. it also shows in the manual about printing a design split over 2 to 4 pages but I haven't gotten good results yet. The only other thing is that I bought the Epson multi use paper but no where shows which side to print on. Theres one video on it, he says even when he contacted Epson, twice he got two different answers. I think this printer has the stuff to be a game changer, it just needs more videos and tutorials on how to do these things. if you can help with any of these questions I'd appreciate it so much.

    • @atprints
      @atprints  3 года назад +1

      Hi, thanks for your comments and questions, I really appreciate them.
      I’ll try to help as much as possible. However, if you can reach out to me via Facebook or Instagram you can show me the paper and other stuff and I can help more. My Facebook and Instagram is @allan21thompson and the links are in the description.
      In relation to printing on long paper, the tray has a black lid. That lid can be pulled down and once it is pulled down and you feed the paper in then the printer can pull the paper. With the Epson paper I would have to see it or my best advice is to try printing a small design on both side and try pressing it onto a sublimation substrate or polyester then way you can find out which is the correct side. Once you find out the correct side then you can mark it so you would know the next time.
      I hope this answer helps.