Depends on what best means for fun i’d say 5.0, but for longevity and the best for beating on 4.6 2v I’ve seen a few Crown Vic’s hit 300k+ and not skip a beat. The 4.6 4v was so exotic at the time. I love the fact that the SN95 is finally getting some love.
I've seen many 4v above 200k and I saw one 96-98 well above 400k original engine. They're very stout. They can make as much hp fbo as a 2v does fbo and cammed probably slightly more and they Rev higher.
Back in '98, I built a 347 and it's still going today. In '03, I built a 3.8 for a '98 and put a supercharger on it. It's still going, and it's a daily driver. My other 2 '98's have the 3.8, 100% stock, and both still run with no issues. My '07 Gt has the 4.6, but I've had issues with the lash adjusters(lifters) going out often. In the past 10yrs, I've had several 3v 5.4 engines in various vehicles and feel those are some of the best engines despite all the bad advertising out there. The 3v with a simple timing set and oil changes keeps it going. It's more of a lack of maintenance for everyone who has issues with the 3v. Of course, the only thing I've done to my 347 and 3.8 is regular oil changes. Here in Okla, I can't find any v8 engines in the salvage yards that are good anymore, and if they have them, they want an arm and leg. My son and my brother both have coyote engines in their F150's. They run strong but seem to use oil with higher mileage just like the 2 and 3v does. With me being a mechanic, I work on any and all manufacturers vehicles, and equipment. You name it, I've prob did it. Over the years, we've driven lots of vehicles and family seemed to buy all other brands just because I've went mainly all Ford. But the last few years, everyone in our family is now driving Fords. I'm talking brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins, you name it, they all have Fords and occasional additional others. I've asked them why, and they say over the yrs they've had the least issues, been more reliable, and less cost driving them. Some say they now know why I drive Fords. Believe me, I use to drive a short wide chevy as my daily, and still have my s10, along with dozens of other domestic and import brands. But as far as reliability, cost, and looks, all my dailies are Fords. I'm currently installing a 351w/408 in an '86 F150 4wd. It's been 3yrs in the making. $14k in the long block only. Fi and all the goodies. Hopefully, it'll live a long time, keeping my fingers crossed, lol.
@@SN95Power I guess it’s because I like the way the classic mustangs sound and the 5.0 is basically the same engine the old 1960’s Mustangs had. Plus it’s the last Ford pushrod engine and a lot of people don’t think the SN95 even had the 5.0. That’s my best guess.
I can’t seem to part w my 95 gt . I ended up painting it and doing some small stuff over the summer and now I’m starting to see it’s potential. It’s super clean for a95. And it has 204k mikes. Thanks for video big bro!
People are in the know thanks to folks like you Brother, so unfortunately these motors are getting harder and harder to find in the wrecking yards!! Great content 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Pretty cool video I retired State Police mechanic 37years//and that's all I did was worked on is Fords Motors// and Dodgers and Plymouth I'm going back to the late 80s I have a 97 sn95 I took a state police motor out of a junkyard police car only have 42 thousand miles on it and I took the motor and transmission along with the PCM ECM and I put a supercharged Vortec I couldn't be so happy this car moves I wish I can send you the pictures motor but yes and has a state police motor and an sn95 in a 97 Mustang GT great job on your video and your audio go Ford//happy and //retired!!!
In my opinion it’s gonna be the 4.6 2v They are plentiful and ford put them in many vehicles, the explorer had an aluminum version I choose 2v because they are dependable and can handle “decent” power stock bottom, countless guys are putting down 450rwhp safely with a good tune. Forge the internals and go with bigger ported heads and add boost and they are quite capable of big numbers, not to mention the sound incredible
Leased a new 94 mark VIII. Have owned 93,94, and 95 Mark VIII's all ran great zero motor problems. Bought a new 96 Cobra back in them day loved it very strong motor, but weak transmissions. Had transmission work done under warranty. Miss those 4 valve motors they ran awesome and delivered excellent mpg. Mark VIII was a fast luxury machine. Cobra was a nimble burnout machine and very reliable. Now running a 2010 GT500 with 5.4 4V supercharged and also a 2016 GT ragtop with 5.0 4V. These motors put out way more HP but darned I loved those old 4.6 4V motors. You can't go wrong with one of them.
I've a 97 Cobra, stock engine, I installed an Intercooled Procharger on about 4 years ago with supporting fuel system mods. Kit is unique for the Cobra, undercut impeller to limit boost because factory crap pistons. Only makes about 7lbs boost. Car has over 125k on it, runs like a dream yet. When tuned, it made 400RWHP on a Mustang dyno, tuner said on a Dynojet, would of been in the 450ish RWHP range as Mustang dynos read 10-15% lower than Dynojets. I can't complain, car ran 12.20s @ 116mph full weight with a very easy launch, I drove car 100mi to track, didn't wanna break anything, had to get home...lol
It depends on what you want your car for on what motor as well as your funds. The 3.8 is a good motor if you are not wanting to race. Not all mustang owners want supped up power. Some of us just want the look and mileage that comes with the 3.8. 138 miles on just over 3 gallon of gas. Of course I do prefer old school cars (The ones with no computer bs).
I have a 2001 Cobra… I chased horse power for years running fox body stangs… Now that I’m older I love having a stock factory all original cobra… Not real fast but it sounds good and turns heads.
Man I had a crown vic, I had a intech lincoln navigator 5.4 4v and now I have a 5.0 and I really tell you I am now in love with this engine. Simplest engine to have cheapest to maintain easiest to mod has the most mods out there and is not modular.
What is wrong with a modular? Modular is easier to build power with than a 302. You don't need an aftermarket block to safely go above 500 or so at the tires. A b bead 4v with forged rods and pistons to go with the factory forged crank and teksid block you can make a ton of power with an otherwise stock engine including the heads and cams. Try that with stock block, heads and cam in a 302 and see how that works out. I love the pushrods but I love modular more. People are still sleeping on their potential today after 25+ years.
I know the mark viii's are getting rare, trying to find one of these or a thunderbird sc to steal the rear disc brake setup for my '93 thunderbird 5.0HO
Yo what's up bro! Love the content, keep up wonderful information. I have a 95 gt " pushrod" that I'm gonna start building after I finish my 98 gt. I did know the aviator had the revised 4v. I'm not sure the exact year's but around the 04 ish aviator had 4v,and around the same years the explorer had the 2v 4.6 too..
There is no denying the performance of the 4v is superior. I've been a tech for a long time and seen a lot of these 4v in all their different variations not be as reliable as the 2v. Not necessarily unreliable, but just doesn't take the beatings back to back like the 2v. That's really the only place the 2v can outshine the 4v. After that 4v is better in every way. The old school 5.0 is an iconic motor that is very capable no doubt, but the short powerband is a hinder in todays age of high revving engines and endless gear changing. With gears you acn make up for this till about 110-120 mph, after that its lights out for all these old platforms vs new ones imho.
You know the 5.0 is one of the highest revving v8s out there many are turning up to 9k on the strip every weekend On a power curve it steadily just produces more power as it revs higher all it takes is the right cam and valve train
I have a 04 mustang GT automatic dark shadow gray with 185,000 miles and still going strong I don’t dog my cars out but I do run them hard every now and then same goes for my 14 mustang GT 6 speed transmission sterling gray they both have staggered chrome deep dish bullit wheels from America muscle
I currently own a 98 cobra with 4.10s, but I'd say from a torque and cost perspective an old school 302 pushrod engine would be the way to go since the sn95 platform is heavier than the foxbody. My old foxbody with 3.73s would pull on my cobra 1st-2nd gear in a race.
Then the cobra will walk away from anything short of heads cam intake 302 with just bolt ons. They like steep gears 456 and a drag radial and the 302 won't get it out of the hole anymore. They like to Rev and have a 7000 rpm window they need a gear if na. 4.10 if boosted 456 na.
Thanks for the content I like your video. I like the 2v stuff alot if people trash that motor it fast for me 300/500 HP. I am waiting to see 👀 who come out on top 4.6 2v or pushrod 302?
Boss block forged 5.0 stroked and boosted. With modern electronics/cpu, can match and exceed any mod motor, even coyotes and be 2x more bulletproof at 1/2 the cost. Otherwise high psi ecoboost for weight balance.
My 2009 Ford Crown Victoria has 173K miles and it still purrs like a kitten. I got her in 2015 at 93K miles from State Police auction. So it probably took some highway abuses but since it’s been well taken care of by me. My friend’s 2011 CVPI just hit 315K miles and it runs like a champ. I have a 2003 Mustang GT with 55K miles and I expect it to run well into 300K but I don’t drive it much but the engine feels brand new still. It’s not fast but it’s reliable.
I have a 95 5.0 with 373 gears no cats , factory headers with a upper and lower gt40 intake ported and polished with bbk throttle body oh hpipe with factory heads for now, easy motor to maintain, no leaks no burning oil and I gap my friends 98 Gt and another 96 and they have bolt ons as well, I have gt40p heads with 4 bars but no sure if I wanna put em on yet, or which way to go
Not sure if I wanna do all the work for just alittle increase in compression, have to find headers to fit, spark plugs will be hell to change and it’s a xpipe not Hpipe , just put black American racing rims and 1 inch spacers on rear kept 17in size, love em so much more than Chrome with HR lowering springs, got sub frame connectors fixing to install, also in process of repainting the car going back with a red color not sure which just yet any ideas??
I don't remember the number off the top of my head but the 5.8 motor was only limited to 300 units and you have to have a racing license to purchase. I wanted to keep this list to engines that were available to everyone that walked into a Ford dealer. Those are some awesome motors to build tho.
I have one. 😅. I got it at 75,000 miles. I love how easy it is going around curves with it because of the FWD. I'm afraid to mod or tune it because of the transmission.
B head + High Comp + E85 + Teksid. Once forged you can throw all the boost you want at it. The only knock on it is that it cost a lot of $$ to build one.
It really don't cost that much honestly especially in comparison to other engines when they're built similar. Forged rods and pistons is all you need to make some pretty damn good power. They come with a forged crank in the cobras I know idk about the mark 8 but literally forged rods and pistons and you can make 700+ easily on otherwise stock engine with boost thrown on it. Especially if you do a high compression e85 build its super easy to hit 700+ forged rods and pistons can be had for like 1400 bucks. It's a slept on performance engine with tons of potential. You could even drop in some 03 cobra stuff like rods and pistons. I assume it would work fine with the teksid?
I’ve been owning a 96 cobra since late 2016 and have never had any real issues besides a little bit of over heating and my transmission breaking one time. So while that’s being said, my brother owns a 95 gt with the pushrod 5.0 that is now modded with a trick flow top end kit and vortech supercharger that you can see in my channel right now, but what I was able To tell between the two just by driving them is that the 95 gt is much lighter from the nose and makes it easier to corner. As far as power goes, I think the ford small block 302 is the better choice for an all motor build if you keep it under 500whp and if you’re looking for boost I think the 4.6 dohc is the better choice since all you have to do is swap out the pistons and rods, upgrade your fuel system and you’re ready for some serious power, while the pushrod 5.0 you’d have to get entire block from dart Which is not cheap at all considering you still have to buy the internals and machine the block etc….
96' Cobra owner here too. I recently replaced my a/c condenser. The existing condenser was likely 22 fins per square inch, whereas the replacement appears 16 & will definitely not restrict air flow as much as the old part. My Cobra has not had the Ford TSB service performed for the cooling upgrade. I won't know the results of my effort until next summer, but I'm optimistic after pulling that old dense as hell condenser.
@@gasman8750 is it the a/c condenser that they replaced in the 97-98 cobras for a cooling revision or was there more to it than just the condenser? I will have to do the same to my 96 cobra as well if that’s the case
i got an aviator engine in my gt. looked for a 01 intake and got mine going... I would suggest getting a head cooling kit prior to installing the engine i would love to add a supercharger, however getting the lower intake for those is an issue
Cheapest 03/04 Cobra intake I've seen lately was $800. Pulling that freeze plug and putting that coolant pipe in with the motor in is a nightmare, lol.
I have a 97 cobra with a kenny bell supercharger on it The horse power is right around 470 witch is not bad I also have a 98 gt that I just swaped a 2v to the 4v mach 1 head and block Automatic transmission with a strip kit in it And 410 gear That one is right around 360 horse I have a few mustangs 95 gt that's built 03 mach 1 that's built 05 gt 3v that's built All of them are great You cant go wrong with any of them Enjoy the ride
My 99 cobra had stock crank, 03 cobra rods, -4cc dish Diamond pistons, Navigator heads, and on a single 76mm turbo it made 702/670 on 93. But if you are looking at cost effectiveness I the the 2v is the way to go. The 302 doesn’t have the block strength of the modular engines. And the expensive side of building an engine is in the heads and valve train.
cobras come with a 4v right? im looking to get a 97 gt but im not sure how much power I can actually make.. I come from the Acura community where my v6 was running close to 250 who bone stock so im kind of disappointed at the amount of money I would have to pour in a 2v to match a cheap Honda.
@youngstajae find a 4v they're 305 hp stock and can do 300+ with bolt ons. They're not that much more just Harder to find. Forged rods and pistons plus fueling is all you need to make a reliable 700+ wheel. 2v can make power but it's gonna take alot more. Get a 96-01 cobra. Don't be afraid of a 99 the power issues with not an issue all it takes is ported intake (which you should do anyways) and a catback change and there is no power issue. Get a cobra and thank me later.
Currently have a mark viii daily driver thats stock and a parts mark viii whose motor im gonna rip apart and put some forged internals into so i can build a mean street car. Shooting for 700 whp and im debating going C head swap with top mount supercharger or keeping the B heads and centrifugal or turbo for boost. Honestly couldnt agree more about the availability tho, if i didn't have a second mark with a good platform to build off of i was just gonna do a coyote swap because a 4v probably wouldnt be as easy to find and build compared to the yote
@@SN95Power the marks come with irs. I’m also not sure what trans I’m gonna go bc my uncle has a really built up 4r70w that’s basically brand new from an old tbird he doesn’t drive anymore, but i really want a manual. This is all a longshot away at the moment anyway ad the motor is still in the old parts car and I don’t see myself having the funds to build it like crazy anytime soon anyway
My son and I are looking at doing this and I have a line on a mark 8 motor I can get for 200 bucks. The issue we have is we do not have a v8 donor car. Not sure how to do this without the hardness and donor car. I also have a line on a grand marquis I could have for the same price. Would love to know what you think. His car is a v6 car.
I have the option of numerous pickups or a crown Vic or the mark 8 all the same price. I would grab the trans too as I have a feeling the v6 and v8 trans are different.
@@SN95Power thank you. I’ll have to do some research as I know very little about those motors. I just know I have access to one in a very clean car locally and it’s cheap. 300 for motor and trans
Looking to buy sn95 mustang. I’m curious as to which engine is more reliable, the 5.0 2v or the 4.6 2v which replaced it. Not too concerned with building it for power (yet) just something dependable and strong running. Are parts cheaper for the 4.6 due to its widespread availability and long production line? Looking at forums I’m seeing a lot of different information. Thanks
Thanks for watching What's the best motor for your Sn95 Mustang build??? ruclips.net/video/Yt_7fFme63o/видео.html Battle of the Sn95 Mustang GT motors. ruclips.net/video/uKQlvTzkZtY/видео.html
I checked Facebook market place and found a 2011 mustang for $4800 with a rebuilt title ,, hmmmmmmm seen nice ones for 7k .. just the wiring harness for a swap is $1500 for the coyote then 3k for a motor add 2k you have a whole car h,mm,,,,,,,,,,,, they will only get cheaper too ,, when gas gets high V8s sell cheap
If you are patient and ready deals pop up now and then. Where you're located plays a part into it also. Cheapest 2011 Mustang GT in my area is $5000, clean title but no motor or trans. $9000 for 2012 wrecked GT with motor and trans.
@@SN95Power i live near Miami so everything is really cheap with Russian Nuclear subs off the coast ,, I think people are leaving getting a little nervous if Florida was hit all Bidens worries is gone think about it the republican stronghold
04 Cobra Owner, if the 4V motor is hard to obtain, then one should not get one, simply put, honestly there is nothing close to the 03/04 Cobra motor, yeah the coyote motor is gd, but there just different overall, those motors like to rev out high, the 03/04 Cobra is like a big block motor for its time. I drive my car often does not sit in a garage collecting dust that I can tell you, as far as the aviator motor, there gd, but people are sleep on them, what is so crazy tho, I still kill Hellcats and other cars, just so cool to see a 20 year old car killing new cars hard to explain, love the thumbs up I get all the time, I love my s550 as well, but I drive my Cobra more, I have a ecoboost that is a sleeper, its fords grand national, the fastest ecoboost did a 9.4 trap 145, see for urself bill putnam ecoboost here on youtube.
@@SN95Power so those are the same heads as the 1999 svt cobra right? If so, was the eaton swap a kit (or what parts did you get to make it fit) or did you have to make anything special for it? Thx, I appreciate it
The Lincoln mk 8's had the 4v engines first, and they are still around. Parts just too high! If you live in a state where you can get away with it a 351w with heads,cam, intake has great low-end torque and bolts to the 302 Mounts and bell housing. Stock hood clearance can become an issue!
They didnt "lie" about the hp in 99. They had intake manifold casting issues and something to do withe catback. Everyone changes their catback anyways so with a ported intake theyll make the same exact power as an 01 with a ported intake and same mods. They had the same heads 99 and 01. People make too big a deal about the power issue in 99. Its not like it had a more restrictive head or low compression or something most if not all were fixed by ford but with a ported intake and catback its fixed anyways. They made a full 320+ without the manifold and catback issues that caused power loss. Lots if misinformation about this.
I'm sorry but what's the misinformation? Maybe "lied" is a strong word but did the 1999 Cobra make 320 from the factory, no. They did the right thing by offering owners to have their Cobra "modified" to produce the 320 that Ford claimed they made in their publications. Maybe I could have said false advertisement 😂
@@SN95Power that’s funny how you mentioned that I actually just but the pulley to do that. Down part about is o live the wonderful state of CA so it won’t pass smog
I did imrc delete plates, cleaned my upper and lower intake ports, bought new oem 24lbs injectors, did a full catless exhaust system. Before those mods I already had an bbk cold air intake and 65mm throttle body and my entire drive train lightened with aluminum flywheel, center force clutch, aluminum drive shaft, aluminum under drive pulleys, and 3:73 rear gears out back. and now I’m waiting for my appointment with my tuner to get the car street tuned. The crazy part is I was already beating on 392 chargers from a dig before the new mods and no tune lol
3:73 gears, cam( I don’t like mine that much e303) , cold air intake, short throw shifter, long tube headers w x pipe. Some tires and rims, and mine is lowered but it rides like fucking shit. Looks good tho. So your in there w this stuff. I mean you can always upgrade ur fuel and boost it, etc. but it’s a lot cheaper than most other car models.
@@Jmauer you are correct it is not my mistake they’ve been making Modular’s for so long from the 4.6 2v to the v10 I made a error the 7.3 Godzilla is not a modular style but a cam in pushrod style thanks for correcting my mistake
Depends on what best means for fun i’d say 5.0, but for longevity and the best for beating on 4.6 2v I’ve seen a few Crown Vic’s hit 300k+ and not skip a beat. The 4.6 4v was so exotic at the time. I love the fact that the SN95 is finally getting some love.
I've seen many 4v above 200k and I saw one 96-98 well above 400k original engine. They're very stout. They can make as much hp fbo as a 2v does fbo and cammed probably slightly more and they Rev higher.
Dude there's 5.0 out there that have been running for over 50 years now
308K and counting on my '00 GT daily driver ...yeeehaw!
@@jklancaster1285 yes, but they are completely different engines than the current 5.0.
I love the 2v, you can't get a lot of power out of them pretty cheap. And they sound awsome.
Back in '98, I built a 347 and it's still going today. In '03, I built a 3.8 for a '98 and put a supercharger on it. It's still going, and it's a daily driver. My other 2 '98's have the 3.8, 100% stock, and both still run with no issues. My '07 Gt has the 4.6, but I've had issues with the lash adjusters(lifters) going out often. In the past 10yrs, I've had several 3v 5.4 engines in various vehicles and feel those are some of the best engines despite all the bad advertising out there. The 3v with a simple timing set and oil changes keeps it going. It's more of a lack of maintenance for everyone who has issues with the 3v.
Of course, the only thing I've done to my 347 and 3.8 is regular oil changes. Here in Okla, I can't find any v8 engines in the salvage yards that are good anymore, and if they have them, they want an arm and leg.
My son and my brother both have coyote engines in their F150's. They run strong but seem to use oil with higher mileage just like the 2 and 3v does.
With me being a mechanic, I work on any and all manufacturers vehicles, and equipment. You name it, I've prob did it. Over the years, we've driven lots of vehicles and family seemed to buy all other brands just because I've went mainly all Ford. But the last few years, everyone in our family is now driving Fords. I'm talking brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins, you name it, they all have Fords and occasional additional others. I've asked them why, and they say over the yrs they've had the least issues, been more reliable, and less cost driving them. Some say they now know why I drive Fords. Believe me, I use to drive a short wide chevy as my daily, and still have my s10, along with dozens of other domestic and import brands. But as far as reliability, cost, and looks, all my dailies are Fords.
I'm currently installing a 351w/408 in an '86 F150 4wd. It's been 3yrs in the making. $14k in the long block only. Fi and all the goodies. Hopefully, it'll live a long time, keeping my fingers crossed, lol.
I’ve got a supercharged 4.6 in the 04 Cobra and a NA 331 Stroker in my other Mustang. My personal favorite is the pushrod 5.0… old school power
What is it about the pushrod?
@@SN95Power I guess it’s because I like the way the classic mustangs sound and the 5.0 is basically the same engine the old 1960’s Mustangs had. Plus it’s the last Ford pushrod engine and a lot of people don’t think the SN95 even had the 5.0. That’s my best guess.
@@scottsvt9104 I love the sound of a cammed pushrod motor
@scottsvt9104 Everyone thinks my sn95 is a 5.0 but it's a 4.6 lol. 7.3 godzilla is pushrod
I can’t seem to part w my 95 gt . I ended up painting it and doing some small stuff over the summer and now I’m starting to see it’s potential. It’s super clean for a95. And it has 204k mikes. Thanks for video big bro!
Lots of good things you can do to these cars. Thanks for watching
People are in the know thanks to folks like you Brother, so unfortunately these motors are getting harder and harder to find in the wrecking yards!! Great content 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Pretty cool video I retired State Police mechanic 37years//and that's all I did was worked on is Fords Motors// and Dodgers and Plymouth I'm going back to the late 80s I have a 97 sn95 I took a state police motor out of a junkyard police car only have 42 thousand miles on it and I took the motor and transmission along with the PCM ECM and I put a supercharged Vortec I couldn't be so happy this car moves I wish I can send you the pictures motor but yes and has a state police motor and an sn95 in a 97 Mustang GT great job on your video and your audio go Ford//happy and //retired!!!
Sounds like a great setup. How much boost? A boosted 4.6 in a SN95 will surprise a lot of people.
Old school 5.8/351/408. If we are talking mod motor 4.6 2v all day.
In my opinion it’s gonna be the 4.6 2v
They are plentiful and ford put them in many vehicles, the explorer had an aluminum version
I choose 2v because they are dependable and can handle “decent” power stock bottom, countless guys are putting down 450rwhp safely with a good tune.
Forge the internals and go with bigger ported heads and add boost and they are quite capable of big numbers, not to mention the sound incredible
The 4 valve is the best. That's elementary. Man in my day the SN95/New Edge was always 💩'ed on. Now it's getting respect. 👍🏿
4.6 gang
I’ve got a 97 cobra with a p1sc procharged running around 6lbs boost making 500whp reliably and it’s fun as hell
Leased a new 94 mark VIII. Have owned 93,94, and 95 Mark VIII's all ran great zero motor problems. Bought a new 96 Cobra back in them day loved it very strong motor, but weak transmissions. Had transmission work done under warranty. Miss those 4 valve motors they ran awesome and delivered excellent mpg. Mark VIII was a fast luxury machine. Cobra was a nimble burnout machine and very reliable. Now running a 2010 GT500 with 5.4 4V supercharged and also a 2016 GT ragtop with 5.0 4V. These motors put out way more HP but darned I loved those old 4.6 4V motors. You can't go wrong with one of them.
Thanks for sharing your experience with these motors. I'm going to buy a mark8 one day and put forced induction on it.
4.6 4 Life. The 4.6 Teksid block will hold 2k hp with the right internals. More than a sleeved Coyote.
4.6 2v is better.
..plenty of sleeved coyote's past 2k
@@scottb4104 the teksid can hold even more than that. The teksid is the best block ever offered in an oem Ford.
@@kskip42422v is not better a teksid 4v is better in every way. It's lighter and can make way more power potential.
@@midnight347 I'm talking about the sound wise.
I've a 97 Cobra, stock engine, I installed an Intercooled Procharger on about 4 years ago with supporting fuel system mods. Kit is unique for the Cobra, undercut impeller to limit boost because factory crap pistons. Only makes about 7lbs boost. Car has over 125k on it, runs like a dream yet. When tuned, it made 400RWHP on a Mustang dyno, tuner said on a Dynojet, would of been in the 450ish RWHP range as Mustang dynos read 10-15% lower than Dynojets.
I can't complain, car ran 12.20s @ 116mph full weight with a very easy launch, I drove car 100mi to track, didn't wanna break anything, had to get home...lol
IMO, that's a perfect setup
It depends on what you want your car for on what motor as well as your funds. The 3.8 is a good motor if you are not wanting to race. Not all mustang owners want supped up power. Some of us just want the look and mileage that comes with the 3.8. 138 miles on just over 3 gallon of gas. Of course I do prefer old school cars (The ones with no computer bs).
I have a 2001 Cobra… I chased horse power for years running fox body stangs… Now that I’m older I love having a stock factory all original cobra… Not real fast but it sounds good and turns heads.
Nothing like a turn key Mustang
I have a 1995 cobra convertible bone stock with 21K miles. I like it just the way it is.
Man I had a crown vic, I had a intech lincoln navigator 5.4 4v and now I have a 5.0 and I really tell you I am now in love with this engine. Simplest engine to have cheapest to maintain easiest to mod has the most mods out there and is not modular.
I went from an 03 crown Vic to an 89 LTD and I agree. That 302 5.0 is simple as hell.
Yep been around since like 1965
What is wrong with a modular? Modular is easier to build power with than a 302. You don't need an aftermarket block to safely go above 500 or so at the tires. A b bead 4v with forged rods and pistons to go with the factory forged crank and teksid block you can make a ton of power with an otherwise stock engine including the heads and cams. Try that with stock block, heads and cam in a 302 and see how that works out. I love the pushrods but I love modular more. People are still sleeping on their potential today after 25+ years.
KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK!!! New Edge police here….OPEN UP!!!!
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I know the mark viii's are getting rare, trying to find one of these or a thunderbird sc to steal the rear disc brake setup for my '93 thunderbird 5.0HO
A b-headed high compression build would work very well with boost, i almost went this route.
Yo what's up bro! Love the content, keep up wonderful information. I have a 95 gt " pushrod" that I'm gonna start building after I finish my 98 gt. I did know the aviator had the revised 4v. I'm not sure the exact year's but around the 04 ish aviator had 4v,and around the same years the explorer had the 2v 4.6 too..
I like the 1996 mustang gt 4.6L
You can build a nice high compression motor with that 96
There is no denying the performance of the 4v is superior. I've been a tech for a long time and seen a lot of these 4v in all their different variations not be as reliable as the 2v. Not necessarily unreliable, but just doesn't take the beatings back to back like the 2v. That's really the only place the 2v can outshine the 4v. After that 4v is better in every way. The old school 5.0 is an iconic motor that is very capable no doubt, but the short powerband is a hinder in todays age of high revving engines and endless gear changing. With gears you acn make up for this till about 110-120 mph, after that its lights out for all these old platforms vs new ones imho.
You know the 5.0 is one of the highest revving v8s out there many are turning up to 9k on the strip every weekend
On a power curve it steadily just produces more power as it revs higher all it takes is the right cam and valve train
Modular not SBF they are talking about the older ones not coyotes
I have a 94 gt vert amd I love it
I have a 94 Cobra and have been and always will be a diehard 5.0 fan
Same here
The best engine for the sn95 is the one with the most hp and torque
Love the 4.6 4V.
1994 sn95 5.0 or 351 small block. a lot of space. In words of Italians "forgeeet bow it"
I have a 04 mustang GT automatic dark shadow gray with 185,000 miles and still going strong I don’t dog my cars out but I do run them hard every now and then same goes for my 14 mustang GT 6 speed transmission sterling gray they both have staggered chrome deep dish bullit wheels from America muscle
I've always love deep dish bullitt wheels on Sn95 Mustangs.
I currently own a 98 cobra with 4.10s, but I'd say from a torque and cost perspective an old school 302 pushrod engine would be the way to go since the sn95 platform is heavier than the foxbody. My old foxbody with 3.73s would pull on my cobra 1st-2nd gear in a race.
Really love the low-end power of a pushrod 5.0
Then the cobra will walk away from anything short of heads cam intake 302 with just bolt ons. They like steep gears 456 and a drag radial and the 302 won't get it out of the hole anymore. They like to Rev and have a 7000 rpm window they need a gear if na. 4.10 if boosted 456 na.
94 mark 8 is one of the best cars I've owned..
I've always loved those cars. Will definitely own one soon.
@@SN95Power not super common, but most of the time are very cheap if they aren't super clean with 20k miles
351w stroked to 408ci in a 94-95 is the setup id go with. It will also go in a 96 to 04 with a k-member swap.
Can't go wrong with cubic inches but I'm talking about oem motors in this video
I just got a 5.0, excited to have some fun with it!
Send it🔥
4 valve sounds best, especially with forced induction and cams
Thanks for the content I like your video. I like the 2v stuff alot if people trash that motor it fast for me 300/500 HP. I am waiting to see 👀 who come out on top 4.6 2v or pushrod 302?
Very educational thank you.. can you make a videos about the 2014 gt mustang? Cause that’s what I have
Honestly I don't know much about the platform. I stick to 4th generation Mustang stuff. Thanks for checking us out, please hang around.
Boss block forged 5.0 stroked and boosted. With modern electronics/cpu, can match and exceed any mod motor, even coyotes and be 2x more bulletproof at 1/2 the cost. Otherwise high psi ecoboost for weight balance.
Of course but this topic is about production motors from the Sn95 platform.
My 2009 Ford Crown Victoria has 173K miles and it still purrs like a kitten. I got her in 2015 at 93K miles from State Police auction. So it probably took some highway abuses but since it’s been well taken care of by me. My friend’s 2011 CVPI just hit 315K miles and it runs like a champ. I have a 2003 Mustang GT with 55K miles and I expect it to run well into 300K but I don’t drive it much but the engine feels brand new still. It’s not fast but it’s reliable.
These mod motor will rack up mileage I'd taken care of. I'm going to get a marauder one day.
old junkie 331 or 347 10:1 compression , Push-rod motor. Easy to build and figure out. a lil Nitro, After aluminum heads and you're in the 10's
I'm a big fan of pushrod motors. Like you said, very simple
I have a 95 5.0 with 373 gears no cats , factory headers with a upper and lower gt40 intake ported and polished with bbk throttle body oh hpipe with factory heads for now, easy motor to maintain, no leaks no burning oil and I gap my friends 98 Gt and another 96 and they have bolt ons as well, I have gt40p heads with 4 bars but no sure if I wanna put em on yet, or which way to go
The gt40p will give you a small bump in compression.
Not sure if I wanna do all the work for just alittle increase in compression, have to find headers to fit, spark plugs will be hell to change and it’s a xpipe not Hpipe , just put black American racing rims and 1 inch spacers on rear kept 17in size, love em so much more than Chrome with HR lowering springs, got sub frame connectors fixing to install, also in process of repainting the car going back with a red color not sure which just yet any ideas??
Wish I had the knowledge to rebuild my 4v😢
What about the 3v. It didn't come in the sn95 but will bolt right in and when you lock out the cam fazers it'll run on the stock ECU.
I'm a big fan of 3v motors but like you said, this is only about production sn95 engines
5.4 swap. The Tq is glorious in pushin these cars around!
331 cubic inches is hardly anything to brag about when it makes the engine physically so wide it barely fits in the engine bay lol.
@@kskip4242 oh it fits. Don’t knock it till ya try it.
Navi swaps are the cheapest way I've seen to make a 4 digit horsepower SN95
Since the '95 Cobra R had a 5.8/351W why not add that to the mix? As well as the 408/427/etc strokers?
I don't remember the number off the top of my head but the 5.8 motor was only limited to 300 units and you have to have a racing license to purchase. I wanted to keep this list to engines that were available to everyone that walked into a Ford dealer. Those are some awesome motors to build tho.
Lincoln continental had it aswell just front wheel drive.
I have one. 😅. I got it at 75,000 miles. I love how easy it is going around curves with it because of the FWD. I'm afraid to mod or tune it because of the transmission.
I have 2001 Ford mustang cobra for Valve I need to know what to do to it
4:30 gear and full exhaust will make you very happy
B head + High Comp + E85 + Teksid. Once forged you can throw all the boost you want at it. The only knock on it is that it cost a lot of $$ to build one.
It really don't cost that much honestly especially in comparison to other engines when they're built similar. Forged rods and pistons is all you need to make some pretty damn good power. They come with a forged crank in the cobras I know idk about the mark 8 but literally forged rods and pistons and you can make 700+ easily on otherwise stock engine with boost thrown on it. Especially if you do a high compression e85 build its super easy to hit 700+ forged rods and pistons can be had for like 1400 bucks. It's a slept on performance engine with tons of potential. You could even drop in some 03 cobra stuff like rods and pistons. I assume it would work fine with the teksid?
5.0 everything cable driven tied to a t5
I’ve been owning a 96 cobra since late 2016 and have never had any real issues besides a little bit of over heating and my transmission breaking one time. So while that’s being said, my brother owns a 95 gt with the pushrod 5.0 that is now modded with a trick flow top end kit and vortech supercharger that you can see in my channel right now, but what I was able To tell between the two just by driving them is that the 95 gt is much lighter from the nose and makes it easier to corner. As far as power goes, I think the ford small block 302 is the better choice for an all motor build if you keep it under 500whp and if you’re looking for boost I think the 4.6 dohc is the better choice since all you have to do is swap out the pistons and rods, upgrade your fuel system and you’re ready for some serious power, while the pushrod 5.0 you’d have to get entire block from dart Which is not cheap at all considering you still have to buy the internals and machine the block etc….
96' Cobra owner here too. I recently replaced my a/c condenser. The existing condenser was likely 22 fins per square inch, whereas the replacement appears 16 & will definitely not restrict air flow as much as the old part.
My Cobra has not had the Ford TSB service performed for the cooling upgrade. I won't know the results of my effort until next summer, but I'm optimistic after pulling that old dense as hell condenser.
@@gasman8750 is it the a/c condenser that they replaced in the 97-98 cobras for a cooling revision or was there more to it than just the condenser? I will have to do the same to my 96 cobra as well if that’s the case
my 98 cobra b head motor made 309 whp 303 ftlbs at the wheels with lth,cai,udp and a 90mm maf. you gotta use hci with a pushrod 5.0 to make that power
True
4v get those big factory heads out the gate. You can find a 96-98 cobra for similar price as a 99-04 GT.
5.0 Period!
5.8 trumps the old 5.0 in all aspects. The coyote 5.0 is the best naturally aspirated V8 engine Ford ever built.
5.0 hands down
Just bought a 4.6 2v motor to put in my 96
Any other plans for it?
id go 2v for 450hp, and 4v (after pistons + rods) for 450+++hp
Fast combination for a street car.
The 4.6 V4 is bass looking over the 2V or 3V
5.0 all way
i got an aviator engine in my gt. looked for a 01 intake and got mine going... I would suggest getting a head cooling kit prior to installing the engine i would love to add a supercharger, however getting the lower intake for those is an issue
Cheapest 03/04 Cobra intake I've seen lately was $800. Pulling that freeze plug and putting that coolant pipe in with the motor in is a nightmare, lol.
Personally I prefer the teksid block in a 2v configuration,and the 2.3 Lysholm blower and a wiff of NOS
Much lighter combo same results in a 2v. Less moving parts
@@richardjohnson768 great combination
I have a 02 4.6 2v - what are the immediate and cost effective things I should do to increase HP? The car is SLOW
4.10 gear and a tune. You'll feel the difference
How bout Lincoln continentals only difference they’re mounted sideways
Yes, you can use the heads and internals but block won't mount of course.
I have a 97 cobra with a kenny bell supercharger on it
The horse power is right around 470 witch is not bad
I also have a 98 gt that I just swaped a 2v to the 4v mach 1 head and block
Automatic transmission with a strip kit in it
And 410 gear
That one is right around 360 horse
I have a few mustangs 95 gt that's built
03 mach 1 that's built
05 gt 3v that's built
All of them are great
You cant go wrong with any of them
Enjoy the ride
Are you running The 2.1?
@@orange_smoke yes
you put 4v mack 1 heads and block in the 98?
@@_youngstajae yes
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My 99 cobra had stock crank, 03 cobra rods, -4cc dish Diamond pistons, Navigator heads, and on a single 76mm turbo it made 702/670 on 93. But if you are looking at cost effectiveness I the the 2v is the way to go. The 302 doesn’t have the block strength of the modular engines. And the expensive side of building an engine is in the heads and valve train.
cobras come with a 4v right? im looking to get a 97 gt but im not sure how much power I can actually make.. I come from the Acura community where my v6 was running close to 250 who bone stock so im kind of disappointed at the amount of money I would have to pour in a 2v to match a cheap Honda.
@youngstajae find a 4v they're 305 hp stock and can do 300+ with bolt ons. They're not that much more just Harder to find. Forged rods and pistons plus fueling is all you need to make a reliable 700+ wheel. 2v can make power but it's gonna take alot more. Get a 96-01 cobra. Don't be afraid of a 99 the power issues with not an issue all it takes is ported intake (which you should do anyways) and a catback change and there is no power issue. Get a cobra and thank me later.
Currently have a mark viii daily driver thats stock and a parts mark viii whose motor im gonna rip apart and put some forged internals into so i can build a mean street car. Shooting for 700 whp and im debating going C head swap with top mount supercharger or keeping the B heads and centrifugal or turbo for boost. Honestly couldnt agree more about the availability tho, if i didn't have a second mark with a good platform to build off of i was just gonna do a coyote swap because a 4v probably wouldnt be as easy to find and build compared to the yote
I just talked with a local guy with a built 03 Cobra motor and trans in his mark8. He also put the irs in the rear.
@@SN95Power the marks come with irs. I’m also not sure what trans I’m gonna go bc my uncle has a really built up 4r70w that’s basically brand new from an old tbird he doesn’t drive anymore, but i really want a manual. This is all a longshot away at the moment anyway ad the motor is still in the old parts car and I don’t see myself having the funds to build it like crazy anytime soon anyway
Can build 5.0 for cheaper the 4.6 cost so much but sound soooo good
1. 98 Saleen S351
2. 04 Cobranator
Nice lineup 👍🏼
I'm running a 4v stock block On3 twin turbo making over 1,000whp.
Very nice. Were you able to keep the sway bar?
@SN95Power Yes but we had to change the K-member
What about 5.4 4v from navigators?
Good swap but this video is about engines equipped in 4th Gen Mustangs
4v 4.6 would be the best option
Love driving those car I got a 1995 GT love it
Any work done to it?
My son and I are looking at doing this and I have a line on a mark 8 motor I can get for 200 bucks. The issue we have is we do not have a v8 donor car.
Not sure how to do this without the hardness and donor car.
I also have a line on a grand marquis I could have for the same price.
Would love to know what you think.
His car is a v6 car.
Best option is to get a use GT harness. You can do a stand alone system like holley or you can get a Ron Francis wiring kit.
@@SN95Power thank you. So you think grabbing the mark 8 motor and maybe freshening it up is the best option ?
I have the option of numerous pickups or a crown Vic or the mark 8 all the same price. I would grab the trans too as I have a feeling the v6 and v8 trans are different.
@@stevenmyers2252 The Mark 8 would be best but you need a 96-98 Cobra intake or 2nd Gen mark 8 intake manifold
@@SN95Power thank you. I’ll have to do some research as I know very little about those motors. I just know I have access to one in a very clean car locally and it’s cheap. 300 for motor and trans
Looking to buy sn95 mustang. I’m curious as to which engine is more reliable, the 5.0 2v or the 4.6 2v which replaced it. Not too concerned with building it for power (yet) just something dependable and strong running. Are parts cheaper for the 4.6 due to its widespread availability and long production line? Looking at forums I’m seeing a lot of different information. Thanks
Honestly any of those motors in stock for are very reliable. IMO the pushrod motor is more reliable, easier to work on and cheaper to upgrade.
@@SN95Powerthanks. That is good to know.
@@SN95Power ended up getting the 4.6 😂
@@RaffikiK nothing wrong with that choice 👍🏼
5.0 hands down more reliable and cheaper power
Actually just found out a few months ago about the 4V aviator
Got 1 for free. Turned out the engine was locked up
Hopefully the heads are salvageable
What about the other motors you mentioned? Continue this talk
Thanks for watching
What's the best motor for your Sn95 Mustang build???
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Battle of the Sn95 Mustang GT motors.
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So I found a aviator motor. Do I take the wiring harness and ecu or can I use the ones I have. I currently drive 2001 ford mustang v6.
Nothing with the Avaitor harness will be plug and play with the Mustang harness. You can use it but you'll have to customize it
@SN95Power and for the ecu? Should I find a v8 one or can I use the one I have?
@@Phatbotty A v6 wire harness can't be use. Easiest route is the find a v8 Mustang harness
I checked Facebook market place and found a 2011 mustang for $4800 with a rebuilt title ,, hmmmmmmm seen nice ones for 7k .. just the wiring harness for a swap is $1500 for the coyote then 3k for a motor add 2k you have a whole car h,mm,,,,,,,,,,,, they will only get cheaper too ,, when gas gets high V8s sell cheap
If you are patient and ready deals pop up now and then. Where you're located plays a part into it also. Cheapest 2011 Mustang GT in my area is $5000, clean title but no motor or trans.
$9000 for 2012 wrecked GT with motor and trans.
@@SN95Power i live near Miami so everything is really cheap with Russian Nuclear subs off the coast ,, I think people are leaving getting a little nervous if Florida was hit all Bidens worries is gone think about it the republican stronghold
@@bengordon7635 Always find better deals in the south it seems
We knew, we just knew.
5.0
Stroked 351W
04 Cobra Owner, if the 4V motor is hard to obtain, then one should not get one, simply put, honestly there is nothing close to the 03/04 Cobra motor, yeah the coyote motor is gd, but there just different overall, those motors like to rev out high, the 03/04 Cobra is like a big block motor for its time. I drive my car often does not sit in a garage collecting dust that I can tell you, as far as the aviator motor, there gd, but people are sleep on them, what is so crazy tho, I still kill Hellcats and other cars, just so cool to see a 20 year old car killing new cars hard to explain, love the thumbs up I get all the time, I love my s550 as well, but I drive my Cobra more, I have a ecoboost that is a sleeper, its fords grand national, the fastest ecoboost did a 9.4 trap 145, see for urself bill putnam ecoboost here on youtube.
So what heads were on your eaton swapped 4v? The b heads or c heads? Thx
C heads off Lincoln Continental
@@SN95Power so those are the same heads as the 1999 svt cobra right? If so, was the eaton swap a kit (or what parts did you get to make it fit) or did you have to make anything special for it? Thx, I appreciate it
The Lincoln mk 8's had the 4v engines first, and they are still around. Parts just too high! If you live in a state where you can get away with it a 351w with heads,cam, intake has great low-end torque and bolts to the 302 Mounts and bell housing. Stock hood clearance can become an issue!
It’s hard to find Mark 8’s out here now. I built my eaton swap from a 93 teskid block
What would be easier to swap into a 03 v6 auto?
All will take about the same amount effort. 4.6 2v would be cheaper
@@SN95Power yeah been looking at 4.6 savage/crashed mustangs and 94-95 302.
They didnt "lie" about the hp in 99. They had intake manifold casting issues and something to do withe catback. Everyone changes their catback anyways so with a ported intake theyll make the same exact power as an 01 with a ported intake and same mods. They had the same heads 99 and 01. People make too big a deal about the power issue in 99. Its not like it had a more restrictive head or low compression or something most if not all were fixed by ford but with a ported intake and catback its fixed anyways. They made a full 320+ without the manifold and catback issues that caused power loss. Lots if misinformation about this.
I'm sorry but what's the misinformation? Maybe "lied" is a strong word but did the 1999 Cobra make 320 from the factory, no. They did the right thing by offering owners to have their Cobra "modified" to produce the 320 that Ford claimed they made in their publications. Maybe I could have said false advertisement 😂
Does trick flow make 4v heads?
They do not
Isn't the 32v in the mach 1 factory forged
The only forged item in the Mach 1 is the 8 bolt crankshaft that came with manuals transmissions.
@@SN95Power 96 4v or 03 mach 1 4v ? im trying to findout the differences but all i can really tell is 03 mach 1 4v has better flowing heads
You forgot about the 351w
Good catch but the production 5.8 and 5.4 are extremely hard to find and crazy expensive
I own a 93 5.0 and my smog pump pulley seized up 😢
Bypass it
@@SN95Power that’s funny how you mentioned that I actually just but the pulley to do that. Down part about is o live the wonderful state of CA so it won’t pass smog
@@IvanMolina-n5k ouch, hopefully you can find another one quick. They still smog a 31 year old car?
I’m picking up a 1998 with a 4.6 will the engine parts be compatible with my 5.0?
@@IvanMolina-n5k nothing will swap over
Realistically it’s the 5.4 4v out of the cobra r from 2003
Very true but have you seen the price for just the heads Thanks for watching
I have a 2004 Mach 1 I wanna throw a supercharger and rods to
We have a 03 Mach 1 motor. Going to add Coyote rods and nitrous. Good luck with your build.
Eliminate the IMRC plates and run 4:10s on the b head
I did imrc delete plates, cleaned my upper and lower intake ports, bought new oem 24lbs injectors, did a full catless exhaust system. Before those mods I already had an bbk cold air intake and 65mm throttle body and my entire drive train lightened with aluminum flywheel, center force clutch, aluminum drive shaft, aluminum under drive pulleys, and 3:73 rear gears out back. and now I’m waiting for my appointment with my tuner to get the car street tuned. The crazy part is I was already beating on 392 chargers from a dig before the new mods and no tune lol
IMRC plate delete is not going to gain much lol. I personally like to here them crack open, sounds like an old school 4bbl carb.
What are some easy power mods for a 94 gt 5.0 ho 5 speed
300rwhp GT40 Junkyard Parts SN95 Mustang Foxbody SBF
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3:73 gears is a must. A Diablo tune or a piggy back computer with a Pre 94 computer. The 94-95 computers retarded timing as the RPMs increased.
3:73 gears, cam( I don’t like mine that much e303) , cold air intake, short throw shifter, long tube headers w x pipe. Some tires and rims, and mine is lowered but it rides like fucking shit. Looks good tho. So your in there w this stuff. I mean you can always upgrade ur fuel and boost it, etc. but it’s a lot cheaper than most other car models.
@@johnnypanama081 how much was the tune? And it made a difference like that?
@@midwest_nikk2682 it made a noticeable difference. Definitely could feel it.
I need the last video bro, cmon.
It's dropping soon. Glad to see some buildup for it
I actually pick up some aviator heads to put in my white cobra.
Love how the terminator is excluded. They are monsters
Another level
The answer is the 7.3 Godzilla modular is the best hands down but I’ve got a 2v and love the sound of it
7.3 Godzilla isn’t a modular engine.
@@Jmauer you are correct it is not my mistake they’ve been making Modular’s for so long from the 4.6 2v to the v10 I made a error the 7.3 Godzilla is not a modular style but a cam in pushrod style thanks for correcting my mistake
I’m more of a 460 ford kind of person
Terminator. The end
My 94 5.0 got 280k on it
Built Ford tough
What about just dropping a built ls 6.0? 😈
Yawn. Boring.