I'm have a 1986 gt bellhousing for my t5z manual trans. Will that foxbody bellhousing be too short for the shift to come thru the floor? And also imma be running the rpm airgap intake under a stock hood, do u think i can get away with a small air breather? Thanks in advance
Great build, the SN95's/New Edge "Pocket Rockets" are a great choice, lightweight and stylish, I've seen similar builds destroy heavier Shelby GT 500s, these rockets are so frickin' KOOL.....🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶.....CHILL.....
I run long tubes on my 95, get the right ones and they fit no issues at all... just checking this out because I’m getting ready to swap the 302 for a 1970 boss 302 👍. Nice ride bro 👊
I have a 2003 V6 Mustang, and have been wanting to do a swap like this for a while. Mainly because I want a CARBURETED V8 engine with NO computer parts. I have done a lot of engine swaps in older cars and built several hot rods and drag race cars. I also want to find a way to install older style wheels with the standard Ford 5x4.5 lug pattern, so I can use 14"/15" wheels suitable for RWL BF Goodrich Radial T/A tires.
When I first saw this , honestly I was thinking not the old school 351w,c,m . I was more in tune doing 5.8 Trinity out of the 2013-14 GT500's . Into a new edge platform, and why not ? Ford had a 5.4 in the 2000 cobra R. Then I hear that the 5.4l and 5.8 are architecturally the same , it's either slightly bigger in the bore or in the stroke can't remember. That's where I would be the 5.8 Trinity build swap.
I have a 2v pushing about 450 whp (upgraded/machined vortech, heads, cams, intake, intercooler, long tubes, etc ... just about every supporting mod you can think of). I'm honestly considering starting to hunt through yards for some of these parts (the K-Member, Bell Housing, Trans, a Motor to Rebuild, etc.) because when my existing motor goes, I think I want to go in this direction (for the love of the low end torque and sound. My car sounds very mean for a 2v, but nothing compares to that old cammed muscle car chop.
@@Projectpompeii ruclips.net/video/Q-NYVYWQfMY/видео.htmlsi=fVRqgcW3UQVDIlAU ruclips.net/video/Uijf-Fa-TZI/видео.htmlsi=rE2kkMTIRk5uRNlN Here ya go. The basic function of any engind is to pump air as fast and efficiently as possible. If you port a 351 based head to flow enough air to match gt350 stock coyote heads. There wouldnt be enough material left to keep the casting structurally sound. Don't get me wrong, the 351 is a great motor and it has its place, but the coyote is king. Also, the FI vs NA argument has been over for 20 years. The 03 cobra ended that. NA is just for bragging rights OR poor boys who cant afford boost. If you want to go, go NA, if you want to go fast, go supercharged, if you wanna go stupid fast, go turbo
I’m gonna be doing this swap soon, the car I’m starting with is a v6 I was told the bell housing is the same as the Windsor and summit has motor mounts that are like 90 bucks, imma see how low dollar I can do the swap for besides the motor refresh that needs done
I’ve been following your build man, i’m getting ready to put my 5.0 in with the stock 3.8/4.6 k member. I ordered the same mounts from your vid description.
Cool build! Good info in everything! When you ran gt40 heads was it still stock bottom end? There's a Hotrod magazine article they did a junkyard 351w with gt40s but used flat top pistons an made 391hp 403tq with them.
Hi buddy seems like you understand this stuff I'm looking to get everything to do this to my wife's mustang and if you have time I'd love to chat with you to get a full list on that I'm going to need! Thanks in advance
Hey Dillian, if you direct message us on Instagram we can discuss this topic further. If you don’t have Instagram, find us on Facebook and send us a message and I will get in contact with you. Both links to Instagram and Facebook are in this videos description. @crownracingco
For budget SBF cylinder heads use Skip White aluminum heads. These cylinder heads are Dart Pro 1 knockoffs and they’re way superior in quality compared to the Speed Master(Procomps). My nephew is running Skip White eBay heads on his 418-W and he’s killing the Ls guys on the streets.
I've done this swap twice. Oil pan you can get anywhere, Jeggs has the best price. Next one will be an 04, only worry is K-member. Some say yes , some say nope. Where is your A/C ?.
@CrownRacingCo no how do it format the rest of the chassis. Like keeping all the stuff. Factory dash, tachometer, radio, ac/heat, safety features… or do I just rip it all out and go really old fashioned…
Check out our wilwood hand brake install video on the mustang. In that video you can see my gauge setup. The first option is doing electrical sensors and gauges. Analog gauges are also an option. If you go with an EFI setup. You will end up getting a dash/screen to match the engine management computer. The screen will show all of the gauges
Great video. You said you used a stock GT engine K member. Any issues with just using a tubular K member instead? This swap is something I want to do very much to my 04 Screaming Yellow vert soon. Thanks!!
Hey I’m planing on swapping a 302 into my v6 mustang, I was wondering what else I have to swap besides the Transmission K member Engine ofc Wiring harness? Drive shaft? Rear diff?
From a closer look at more videos, I guess you are in MI not WI. So you probably can't help with info on engine swapped obd2 car registration in WI. Still like your videos.
I did not use a stock gauge cluster, so I don't know exactly how to do this. But here is a basic explanation. If you want to use the stock gauge cluster you will need to keep everything as stock as possible (sensors and computer). You will have to reuse engine sensors (ECT, oil pressure, engine RPM and so on) and stock ECU which is a complicated mess depending on your goals for the car in regards to ignition and fuel setup. Basically you need to do a 5.0L (302) swap and use the stock mustand gt computer and all that stuff. I recommend you use aftermarket electrical gauges for simplicity and this allows you to use better engine management options (holley or MSD). I used a cheap GPS sensor for MPH.
I got a 69 351w block going in my 98 GT hopefully next month. I got the Windsor Sr. Aluminum heads 205cfm with a port job. I’m stoked. How long did that T5 hold up for you?
One crucial part about the whole swap is that the cradle does not have to be swapped in these cars to the 95 gt cradle the cradle for the v6 and the 5.0 are the same they never changed them between the cars
From my experience that's not true. Your setup must be different than mine. I tried to use the v6 k member and I had clearance issues with the cylinder heads hitting the firewall. Also the v6 k member is the same as the one used for the mod motor 4.6. the v6 gets special engine mounts to fit the 4.6 mod motor k member that is in all new edge mustangs. Maybe you got lucky by using different engine mounts or something in your setup is different then mine. Anyway, there is more than one way to do this swap. I'm not surprised you were able to use the v6 k member.
That burnout would be impressive if you didn't have your foot on the damn brake! Gurrrrrrr....so annoying! Great info & cool donuts. Thanks for making the swap look easy!
M-6675-DRS351, this is the ford racing part number. This is a 7qt rear sump oil pan. You can also get a front sump oil pan however, you need a rear sump oil pan for a mustang
Pretty positive you don't have to change the k member 100 percent sure a 3.8 3.9 car you do not. Also worth saying headers from a fox will work as well. I'll confirm this with in the next few months as I'm swapping a 01 v6 car. Mine will be budget an will likely have a g.m. one wire alternator hei distributor and possibly will change the timing chain cover to run a manual fuel pump.
The 99-04 mustangs k member is setup for the 4.6L mod motor. The 3.8 has special engine mounts to make it fit. I recommend changing k members to a 94-95 mustang gt. Then the sbf will fit perfectly with correct drive line angles.
ALL 96+ cars will need the K member changed, V6 or not. They went to the 4.6 K member across the board starting in 96 and redesigned the V6 motor mounts to work with the 4.6 style K member.
I'm planning on swapping out my 4.6 for a pushrod 302 or 351 in my 98 GT because I just rather have a pushrod engine mustang GT because it's easier to work on and cheaper to buy parts for and it's a better motor.
2 out of 3 ain't bad. Cheaper yes, easier to work, slightly yes, better motor. Not a chance. I own 3 mustangs now. None are pushrod or straight axle. Embrace the innovation. Its faster, more reliable and more comfortable
"any ford cylinder head" did you look into the clevor setup? Cleveland heads seem to do the trick for engine masters challenges. A little bit harder to find but the aftermarket has it covered pretty well.
Run of the mill lol. It's a nicely built motor. More torque than the newest Stangs except for factory supercharged. It's super cheap! You could buy a coyote stock used for the same price as a 500hp built 351w. 1000 w a turbo. To get the coyote there is very expensive. I love the sound of a modded coyote but I'm all set with the price. :-(
My 06 model mustang v6 took a crap and I am on a strict budget. However I do have a 351 Windsor and a CJ automatic what will I have to do to make the swap work?
I kept the stock BCM computer in the car. I only removed the engine computer (PCM). All that stuff still works with no issues. I still use the factory key.
Pretty much everything is the same. Except I'm pretty sure you need a flat tappet style camshaft. Use the proper break in assembly lube for flat tappet lifters and you'll be fine. Google search comp cams break in procedure for a flat tappet cam.
Yes you can! However using the bell housing from a 94-95 mustang gt will make your exhaust fit with more clearance. If you use the V6 bell housing the clutch fork sits in a different position.
I switched to fuel injection. I use a Holley super sniper 650. I love it. No issues with anti theft because you keep all those electronics in the vehicle still. Only remove the computer for the engine (ECU)
Yes I did. I'm using a 2003 mustang v6 steering rack and power steering pump. Stock 95 mustang gt lower control arms and knuckles. However, I'm pretty sure 94-95 mustang gt and new edge lower control arms and knuckles are the exact same.
So I can practically just drop in a sn95 gt 1995 v8 engine onto my 1999 v6 new edge mustang?? I’m about to pull a motor from the junk yard and start from there if that’s the case. Is t more worth it to do the swap or to turbo the v6???
Hey man, what rad did you end up going with. I dunno if i missed that part or not. Mine was a v6 manual and im swapping a 351w/C6 into it and was looking at the 99-04 automatic rads as they come with the tranny cooler.
I used the stock efi fuel pump bucket. Drilled a large hole in the bottom to help fuel fill faster. I used a plastic fuel line and attached it to the efi pump feed hose. Ran the plastic fuel line to bottom of fuel bucket. Cut a diagonal at end of fuel hose to prevent it from sucking to the bottom of fuel bucket
Hey brother so me and my cousins are looking to getting into drag racing. We're debating between using a 351 Windsor or a gm 350. How does the 351 compare to the 350 in terms of cost for performance parts
Generally the 350 will be cheaper to build. Performance and cost is relatively up to you guys and what aftermarket parts you decide to buy. I assume your intentions are not to rebuild a stock 350 or 351, so both of those engines will need aftermarket intake, cylinder heads, camshaft and so on. If you want to go efi, I recommend LS or any modern chevy 5.3. If your staying carbureted either the 350 or 351 will get the job done but the 350 may be a little cheaper in the long run. You also need to keep in mind what transmission you want to use. Your engine choice may affect what transmission you want to use
I heard the 5.0 V8 302 that came in the mercury mountaineer from 1998-2001 Came with GT 40 heads And I’m wondering what I should put it in because I have one sitting outside
Stock K members are different between sn95 and new edge. The location for the engine mounts are in different spots. Use a stock 94-95 mustang gt k member. If you use an aftermarket tubular k member then it can fit in both sn95 and new edge because the engine mount tabs should be setup for a 5.0.
go for it! putting a turbo on a stock internal v6 will have its own challenges. keep the boost low and safe timing and you will be happy. I did the 351 swap because i wanted the V8 and was willing to swap the engine. Swapping and engine takes time an money but a turbo kit also does the same> Good luck!
Im working on this same swap in my 2000 new edge, I'm just curious if you ran into any valve clearance issues with the cam and rockers your running, I've got a set of 1.72 svo roller rockers and I haven't bought a cam yet just curious if I should be worried about the cam I buy
If you are using stock pistons. The f303 camshaft with 1.6rr rockers and with a cylinder head using a 1.84 inch diameter intake valve will clear. I have ran this setup in the past. The problem is when you run aftermarket cylinder heads with a 2.00 inch intake valve diameter you start to run into piston to valve clearance issues. Always measure and make sure!!! I made a video about this already! For your setup, if you run into issues, you can either notch the piston for bigger valve reliefs yourself or run a thicker head gasket.
To save money, no nothing wrong with going carb. However my stang is fuel injected now because I wanted the ability to tune my car on the fly for different events. Drag racing, drifting and so on. If you have some extra money I recommend going fuel injected. Have the ability to datalog is very convenient and helpful
Haha I have no idea. I would look to see if anyone makes turbo kits for a 351 in a new edge mustang. Or maybe modify a turbo kit for a 94-95 mustang with a 302
So i have a 72 f250 with a 351. Its bored 40 over with flat tops and cammed. It was used as a farm truck has 5k miles on rebuild but now it just sits. I also have a 02 gt i want to put that in. The manual from the f250 would i be able to use that bellhousing from that or would i still need to find an old 5.0
Off brand bbk shorty headers, 3in exhaust pipe with no cross over (true dual setup) and flow master 10 series mufflers. I dump the exhaust towards the ground before the rear axle.
I'm using an OEM 2003 V6 throttle cable. This car was a V6 originally. Then, I went to O'Reilly's and bought the universal throttle cable kit. I cut the OEM v6 throttle cable to length and attached the O'Reilly's universal throttle cable end piece with the hole for a bolt. Then I used a bolt and nut to attach the cable end to the throttle linkage on the carb.
My car was a V6 originally. I used all stock parts from the v6. Stock pump, lines, cooler and steering rack. This also applies to brakes. I still use the vacuum assisted brake booster.
I wired mine separately from the cars original fuel pump electrical circuit. I did not use the electrical circuit already in the car because the fuel pump controller originally controls the fuel pump. I used a 12v holley blue pump (for carbureted applications) and wired power and ground to it and used a toggle switch to turn the fuel pump on.
@Crown Racing Co. they’ll be a sick set, I have an idea in mind that will be better than 180 degree headers. The 351 helps with mockup purposes. But I got y’all, i might send a set if you wear a decal, that’s later tho 😅😁. I gotta ask, stock k member or tubular?
The only computer i removed was the PCM which is the computer that controls the engine. All other computers are on different electrical circuits so you can keep everything else
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**NOTE: The best engine mounts to use for this swap are 94-95 mustang gt engine mounts for the 302 (5.0 V8)
I'm have a 1986 gt bellhousing for my t5z manual trans. Will that foxbody bellhousing be too short for the shift to come thru the floor?
And also imma be running the rpm airgap intake under a stock hood, do u think i can get away with a small air breather? Thanks in advance
I can't wait to get started on my 01 v6 with this swap. That Carbed 302 looks sick in the New Edge!
I was thinking about swapping my 04 v6 as well just stinks cause it’s an auto and def need a new trans with one of these bigger motors
It's not a 302 in his car it's a 351 Windsor
I have an 02 v6 convertible, bought a tahoe to use for the winter. Going to deck out the stang over the winter. So excited
@Sid The sloth everything that bolts to a 302 bolts to a windsor
A 351 Cleveland with aluminum Aussie 3V Heads would be very interesting. 🤔
You're talking shit I know nothing about, how the hell do you get 3 valve heads to work with a pushrod engine
@@reaperasylumthat dude doesn't know what he's talking about
@@reaperasylumhe meant 4v which that used to stand for 4bbl carburetor heads
I did a 302 full EFI swap using a 94gt as a donor, then twin turboed it lol.. awesome setup with the carb!
The 351W was actually in the production mustang. 1995 Mustang Cobra R.
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The first year for Cobra R’s ?
Saleen made a 351W powered new edge in 99, it was the saleen S351
@@98TALONTSI 98, 99 is when the new edge came out
New edge body is from 99-04
351 is the way to go nice job twisted wedge heads best bang for the buck and aluminum support close to 500 hp
Really nice car. I’ve never thought of a 351 swap.
This video has answered alot of questions I had before I swap my v6 01
Good luck with the swap!
Great build, the SN95's/New Edge "Pocket Rockets" are a great choice, lightweight and stylish, I've seen similar builds destroy heavier Shelby GT 500s, these rockets are so frickin' KOOL.....🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶.....CHILL.....
You should be able to use the stock fuel pump with the right regulator
I run long tubes on my 95, get the right ones and they fit no issues at all... just checking this out because I’m getting ready to swap the 302 for a 1970 boss 302 👍. Nice ride bro 👊
Can you email us a link to those longtube headers you used? crownracingco@gmail.com
Thanks for helping the community get better at this swap
the only thing u need is to make sure u use the 94 95 bellhousing and perhaps to alter some of the hardware brackets.
I have a 2003 V6 Mustang, and have been wanting to do a swap like this for a while. Mainly because I want a CARBURETED V8 engine with NO computer parts. I have done a lot of engine swaps in older cars and built several hot rods and drag race cars. I also want to find a way to install older style wheels with the standard Ford 5x4.5 lug pattern, so I can use 14"/15" wheels suitable for RWL BF Goodrich Radial T/A tires.
Very good post I did basically the same build but used 53 cc 170 trick Flo heads a b303 with 1.7 rockers 373 diff gears 5 speed
for the 94-95 sn95's its every easier to do the swap, k-members are the same and certain things can be re-used and plug and play iirc
Even in the v6 ones?
When I first saw this , honestly I was thinking not the old school 351w,c,m . I was more in tune doing 5.8 Trinity out of the 2013-14 GT500's . Into a new edge platform, and why not ? Ford had a 5.4 in the 2000 cobra R. Then I hear that the 5.4l and 5.8 are architecturally the same , it's either slightly bigger in the bore or in the stroke can't remember. That's where I would be the 5.8 Trinity build swap.
I got a 94 GT its an auto and I've been wondering what to do for an engine swap and a Manu swap. I think you answered that question awesome video man.
I have a 2v pushing about 450 whp (upgraded/machined vortech, heads, cams, intake, intercooler, long tubes, etc ... just about every supporting mod you can think of). I'm honestly considering starting to hunt through yards for some of these parts (the K-Member, Bell Housing, Trans, a Motor to Rebuild, etc.) because when my existing motor goes, I think I want to go in this direction (for the love of the low end torque and sound. My car sounds very mean for a 2v, but nothing compares to that old cammed muscle car chop.
For the cost of all that, just get a f150 coyote. Bolts in 2v location and is a better motor
A 351 based 408 can make north of 800 hp with boost
@@BrandonWillis-kf5zm a boosted stock gen 2 coyote will make over 1000 and have better drivability and reliability. 800 would be only 10psi
@@TheRealSixShiftyshow me a coyote that makes 700hp n/a, my 351 can do that
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Here ya go. The basic function of any engind is to pump air as fast and efficiently as possible. If you port a 351 based head to flow enough air to match gt350 stock coyote heads. There wouldnt be enough material left to keep the casting structurally sound. Don't get me wrong, the 351 is a great motor and it has its place, but the coyote is king. Also, the FI vs NA argument has been over for 20 years. The 03 cobra ended that. NA is just for bragging rights OR poor boys who cant afford boost. If you want to go, go NA, if you want to go fast, go supercharged, if you wanna go stupid fast, go turbo
I was thinking about doing this with a 2000 mustang v6
Do it!
I’m gonna be doing this swap soon, the car I’m starting with is a v6 I was told the bell housing is the same as the Windsor and summit has motor mounts that are like 90 bucks, imma see how low dollar I can do the swap for besides the motor refresh that needs done
You should make videos documenting it, I want to do the same with my v6
The V6 bolt pattern definitely is the same as a small block Windsor.👍
Any updates ?
@@MustangGuy2000 ya the 500 dollar roller I bought ended up being a little worse than I though so I junked it
Used solid mounts on my car and used the stock k member working on putting on converting it to efi soon. Nice build hope to see a track video
I’ve been following your build man, i’m getting ready to put my 5.0 in with the stock 3.8/4.6 k member. I ordered the same mounts from your vid description.
@@Perkins.Garage I'm working on putting on efi in the upcoming months along with stripping the interior
@@texasinnovativeperformance6439 I need info on using my stock 4.6 kmember? How did it work out?
@@chrisrisenhoover8257 what do you need to know
Only real reason for doing a swap like this is to GET RID of EFI.
good looking new edge!
Sick Smokey changa at the beginning
It’s the Lords work you are doing.
Hahahaha thank you! SBF for life!
The 94-04 v6 5spd bell housing uses the same bolt pattern as the 302/351 and bolts right up input shaft and all
Clutch fork for the throw out bearing is in a different spot. It’s a preference
Cool build! Good info in everything! When you ran gt40 heads was it still stock bottom end? There's a Hotrod magazine article they did a junkyard 351w with gt40s but used flat top pistons an made 391hp 403tq with them.
I have a 99 with a 302 efi running off a painless harness and foxbody computer.
Does the stock 351w have any advantages over a stock 302?
@@Dannymclovin Torque
Hello Sir, could you give me the info for the painless harness and what foxbody computer did you use? A9L? Thanks
I have a 1995 cobra. Looks like I can do this swap super easy. I’m excited! Thanks!
Wow. I wondered about this swap. Great info. Thanks
Hi buddy seems like you understand this stuff I'm looking to get everything to do this to my wife's mustang and if you have time I'd love to chat with you to get a full list on that I'm going to need! Thanks in advance
Hey Dillian, if you direct message us on Instagram we can discuss this topic further. If you don’t have Instagram, find us on Facebook and send us a message and I will get in contact with you. Both links to Instagram and Facebook are in this videos description. @crownracingco
You can also contact us through email crownracingco@gmail.com
Awesome build, However that F cam may be leaving some Hp on the table. Nonetheless good build
I agree, I’ve been running this budget camshaft for awhile. It’s time to upgrade to a more modern camshaft!
Note: the 94-95 bellhousing have in large casting "5.0" between the two center top on them
For budget SBF cylinder heads use Skip White aluminum heads. These cylinder heads are Dart Pro 1 knockoffs and they’re way superior in quality compared to the Speed Master(Procomps). My nephew is running Skip White eBay heads on his 418-W and he’s killing the Ls guys on the streets.
I will look into this cylinder head. Now I'm curious
I used skip white heads for my sbc build, so far they seem pretty good
I've done this swap twice. Oil pan you can get anywhere, Jeggs has the best price. Next one will be an 04, only worry is K-member. Some say yes , some say nope. Where is your A/C ?.
I deleted the A/C in my car.
@CrownRacingCo no how do it format the rest of the chassis. Like keeping all the stuff. Factory dash, tachometer, radio, ac/heat, safety features… or do I just rip it all out and go really old fashioned…
Check out our wilwood hand brake install video on the mustang. In that video you can see my gauge setup. The first option is doing electrical sensors and gauges. Analog gauges are also an option. If you go with an EFI setup. You will end up getting a dash/screen to match the engine management computer. The screen will show all of the gauges
Great video. You said you used a stock GT engine K member. Any issues with just using a tubular K member instead? This swap is something I want to do very much to my 04 Screaming Yellow vert soon. Thanks!!
I've never tried a tubular k member. My assumption is it would make the swap even easier. You'll have more room for exhaust headers.
Great information and it looks like a great build.
Thanks I appreciate the feed back!
Car looks good and sounds good is it a bullet looks like it anyway like always God bless 🙌
My stang is actually a V6 body. The color is tropic green. It's very similar to the bullet green
Hey I’m planing on swapping a 302 into my v6 mustang, I was wondering what else I have to swap besides the
Transmission
K member
Engine ofc
Wiring harness? Drive shaft? Rear diff?
From a closer look at more videos, I guess you are in MI not WI. So you probably can't help with info on engine swapped obd2 car registration in WI. Still like your videos.
That is correct we live in Michigan with no emission requirements... for now at least lol
Awesome video man thanks for the info I’m looking to keep my stock cluster how do I go abouts doing that getting my gauges/speedo to work
I did not use a stock gauge cluster, so I don't know exactly how to do this. But here is a basic explanation. If you want to use the stock gauge cluster you will need to keep everything as stock as possible (sensors and computer). You will have to reuse engine sensors (ECT, oil pressure, engine RPM and so on) and stock ECU which is a complicated mess depending on your goals for the car in regards to ignition and fuel setup. Basically you need to do a 5.0L (302) swap and use the stock mustand gt computer and all that stuff. I recommend you use aftermarket electrical gauges for simplicity and this allows you to use better engine management options (holley or MSD). I used a cheap GPS sensor for MPH.
@@CrownRacingCo okay what if I just run carb and no ecu don’t really care if my cluster doesn’t work I’ll be putting gauges in I sent you a email!
I'm doing the same swap but I'm using a c4 transmission
Does the C4 fit in the trans tunnel?
I have 351w with c4, fits beautiful in the tunnel
@@markg1751 any reason picking the 3 speed over the AOD? I know an AOD shift kit really wakes it up. Just picking your diabolical mind. Peace!!
C4 can take more abuse and I have no reason to have overdrive in the transmission
thanks for all the info..........you're a BIG HELP! but i have a question about the 94-95 k member, does it bolt right up?
yes it does! event the steering rack will bolt directly to the 94-95 K member.
I got a 69 351w block going in my 98 GT hopefully next month. I got the Windsor Sr. Aluminum heads 205cfm with a port job. I’m stoked. How long did that T5 hold up for you?
The T5 held up great on the street. Stay away from a sticky tire at a drag strip or else you will blow up 2nd or 3rd gear.
Nice was thinking about 302 in my edge daamm
Thinking of doing a 557 swap with Kaase SR71 heads and a 6R80 6SPD Auto into my 2000 GT 😁
The issue I'm running into is my belt drive on my 72 351w this V belt shit has to go!
One crucial part about the whole swap is that the cradle does not have to be swapped in these cars to the 95 gt cradle the cradle for the v6 and the 5.0 are the same they never changed them between the cars
From my experience that's not true. Your setup must be different than mine. I tried to use the v6 k member and I had clearance issues with the cylinder heads hitting the firewall. Also the v6 k member is the same as the one used for the mod motor 4.6. the v6 gets special engine mounts to fit the 4.6 mod motor k member that is in all new edge mustangs. Maybe you got lucky by using different engine mounts or something in your setup is different then mine. Anyway, there is more than one way to do this swap. I'm not surprised you were able to use the v6 k member.
Great video love the information picking up a new edge soon. what about inspection?
Just do the basics if you can. Compression or leak down test. Take a look at the spark plugs and check for oil leaks
That burnout would be impressive if you didn't have your foot on the damn brake! Gurrrrrrr....so annoying!
Great info & cool donuts. Thanks for making the swap look easy!
that car is so sick
Thanks!
Can you post a part number for that 351w oil pan please. I can't seem to find it on LMR
M-6675-DRS351, this is the ford racing part number. This is a 7qt rear sump oil pan. You can also get a front sump oil pan however, you need a rear sump oil pan for a mustang
Pretty positive you don't have to change the k member 100 percent sure a 3.8 3.9 car you do not. Also worth saying headers from a fox will work as well. I'll confirm this with in the next few months as I'm swapping a 01 v6 car. Mine will be budget an will likely have a g.m. one wire alternator hei distributor and possibly will change the timing chain cover to run a manual fuel pump.
If you don't change the k member. You have to move the engine mounts 1 inch backwards towards the fire wall.
The 99-04 mustangs k member is setup for the 4.6L mod motor. The 3.8 has special engine mounts to make it fit. I recommend changing k members to a 94-95 mustang gt. Then the sbf will fit perfectly with correct drive line angles.
ALL 96+ cars will need the K member changed, V6 or not. They went to the 4.6 K member across the board starting in 96 and redesigned the V6 motor mounts to work with the 4.6 style K member.
I'm planning on swapping out my 4.6 for a pushrod 302 or 351 in my 98 GT because I just rather have a pushrod engine mustang GT because it's easier to work on and cheaper to buy parts for and it's a better motor.
2 out of 3 ain't bad. Cheaper yes, easier to work, slightly yes, better motor. Not a chance. I own 3 mustangs now. None are pushrod or straight axle. Embrace the innovation. Its faster, more reliable and more comfortable
You should paint your rear wheels like how the front ones are, it just looks weird when it all chrome
Did the V6 power steering pump and alternator bolt right up or were adaptors needed??? I use to have the exact same color. Killer build btw 😀
They bolted directly onto the 95 Ford bronco accessory drive brackets I’m using.
I found a 80s 351w on Facebook and I have a 00 v6 mustang. What kind of wiring did you have to do to it?
"any ford cylinder head" did you look into the clevor setup? Cleveland heads seem to do the trick for engine masters challenges. A little bit harder to find but the aftermarket has it covered pretty well.
I never looked into it myself. But I have heard of other people using Cleveland heads on a 351w
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Run of the mill lol. It's a nicely built motor. More torque than the newest Stangs except for factory supercharged.
It's super cheap! You could buy a coyote stock used for the same price as a 500hp built 351w. 1000 w a turbo. To get the coyote there is very expensive. I love the sound of a modded coyote but I'm all set with the price. :-(
Will 94-95 mustang motor mounts fit on a 2000 v6 stock k member?
How much horse power does this build with the carb did? I'm thinking of doing almost the same build.
My 06 model mustang v6 took a crap and I am on a strict budget. However I do have a 351 Windsor and a CJ automatic what will I have to do to make the swap work?
I have 2000 ford mustang has 3.8 I wanting to put 5.0 are 351 w in it any input on what I would need to do
email us at crownracingco@gmail.com. Ill send you a 351w engine swap guide
Good job bud
what did you do about the headlight and tailights? or did you do anything to them.
I kept the stock BCM computer in the car. I only removed the engine computer (PCM). All that stuff still works with no issues. I still use the factory key.
Is this car driven on the street? I have some questions about registering an engine swapped mustang in SE WI. Or is this a track only car?
That is correct we live in Michigan with no emission requirements... for now at least lol
could you use all those engine mods on a 85 351? in the middle of rebuilding a 99 v6 swap now!
And what kind of cam shaft break in do you suggest>
Pretty much everything is the same. Except I'm pretty sure you need a flat tappet style camshaft. Use the proper break in assembly lube for flat tappet lifters and you'll be fine. Google search comp cams break in procedure for a flat tappet cam.
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So can you use the manual v6 transmission with the 351 or no
Yes you can! However using the bell housing from a 94-95 mustang gt will make your exhaust fit with more clearance. If you use the V6 bell housing the clutch fork sits in a different position.
Has anyonee done this fuel injection and did you have to bypass antitheft
I switched to fuel injection. I use a Holley super sniper 650. I love it. No issues with anti theft because you keep all those electronics in the vehicle still. Only remove the computer for the engine (ECU)
I would do a 363. Better performance overall. Especially if you use the Dart block.
Cool video
hey my man did you use the new edge steering components and control arms ?
Yes I did. I'm using a 2003 mustang v6 steering rack and power steering pump. Stock 95 mustang gt lower control arms and knuckles. However, I'm pretty sure 94-95 mustang gt and new edge lower control arms and knuckles are the exact same.
@@CrownRacingCo sweet thanks for the info! Trying to swap in a 387 w into our v6 new edge should be a hoot!
So I can practically just drop in a sn95 gt 1995 v8 engine onto my 1999 v6 new edge mustang?? I’m about to pull a motor from the junk yard and start from there if that’s the case. Is t more worth it to do the swap or to turbo the v6???
Email us crownracingco@gmail.com and I'll send you an engine swap guide. Explains how and what parts are needed
Hey man, what rad did you end up going with. I dunno if i missed that part or not. Mine was a v6 manual and im swapping a 351w/C6 into it and was looking at the 99-04 automatic rads as they come with the tranny cooler.
SVE aluminum radiator. I bought it from LMR. I got a radiator for a 94-95 mustang GT because I wanted the pressure cap on the radiator.
I'm planning on doing this to my 97 wonder if it be easier
Can you give more details on the fuel system? Did you have to sump the tank? And is it a return system?
Currently my system is return less. However, I recommend taking the time to make a return style system to prevent fuel vapor lock
I used the stock efi fuel pump bucket. Drilled a large hole in the bottom to help fuel fill faster. I used a plastic fuel line and attached it to the efi pump feed hose. Ran the plastic fuel line to bottom of fuel bucket. Cut a diagonal at end of fuel hose to prevent it from sucking to the bottom of fuel bucket
If you email me Crownracingco@gmail.com I can send pictures and discuss further in detail
Would you mind if I did the same? I've swapped to full sn95 k member and suspension looking for info in reference to fuel system
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Hey brother so me and my cousins are looking to getting into drag racing. We're debating between using a 351 Windsor or a gm 350. How does the 351 compare to the 350 in terms of cost for performance parts
Generally the 350 will be cheaper to build. Performance and cost is relatively up to you guys and what aftermarket parts you decide to buy. I assume your intentions are not to rebuild a stock 350 or 351, so both of those engines will need aftermarket intake, cylinder heads, camshaft and so on. If you want to go efi, I recommend LS or any modern chevy 5.3. If your staying carbureted either the 350 or 351 will get the job done but the 350 may be a little cheaper in the long run. You also need to keep in mind what transmission you want to use. Your engine choice may affect what transmission you want to use
I heard the 5.0 V8 302 that came in the mercury mountaineer from 1998-2001 Came with GT 40 heads And I’m wondering what I should put it in because I have one sitting outside
They are great heads if your power goals for the engine are less then 340hp/tq
What oil pan do you use? My woman just ruptured the oil pan on our 99 V6 due to it being lowered
Do the new edge and original sn95 use the same tubular kmember?
Please reply to me.
Stock K members are different between sn95 and new edge. The location for the engine mounts are in different spots. Use a stock 94-95 mustang gt k member. If you use an aftermarket tubular k member then it can fit in both sn95 and new edge because the engine mount tabs should be setup for a 5.0.
@@CrownRacingCo awesome and one more thing you went through (3) 351w blocks what caused it and how to prevent it?
I have a 2002 v6. I may just turbo the v6. If I do a swap, it would be a 351!
go for it! putting a turbo on a stock internal v6 will have its own challenges. keep the boost low and safe timing and you will be happy. I did the 351 swap because i wanted the V8 and was willing to swap the engine. Swapping and engine takes time an money but a turbo kit also does the same> Good luck!
Im working on this same swap in my 2000 new edge, I'm just curious if you ran into any valve clearance issues with the cam and rockers your running, I've got a set of 1.72 svo roller rockers and I haven't bought a cam yet just curious if I should be worried about the cam I buy
If you are using stock pistons. The f303 camshaft with 1.6rr rockers and with a cylinder head using a 1.84 inch diameter intake valve will clear. I have ran this setup in the past.
The problem is when you run aftermarket cylinder heads with a 2.00 inch intake valve diameter you start to run into piston to valve clearance issues. Always measure and make sure!!! I made a video about this already! For your setup, if you run into issues, you can either notch the piston for bigger valve reliefs yourself or run a thicker head gasket.
I had to use the taller valve covers for rocker clearance.
Are you running fox style accessories brackets or sn95(94-95). I'm dropping a 302 in my 98
I'm running truck style accessory brackets. They are very similar to a 94-95 mustang gt accessory drive setup.
What kind of flywheel did you use?
I used a 28oz SVE flywheel with 157teeth for the starter
Any regrets on going carbed over injected?
To save money, no nothing wrong with going carb. However my stang is fuel injected now because I wanted the ability to tune my car on the fly for different events. Drag racing, drifting and so on. If you have some extra money I recommend going fuel injected. Have the ability to datalog is very convenient and helpful
Now my question is... would a twin turbo in this build be possible?
Haha I have no idea. I would look to see if anyone makes turbo kits for a 351 in a new edge mustang. Or maybe modify a turbo kit for a 94-95 mustang with a 302
@@CrownRacingCo I'm going to do some digging, see if I can get it done. I'll let you know!
Did you use an H-pipe? Thanks
I did a true dual exhaust. No cross over. This was only because I wanted to save on cost at the time.
Also Note: 5.0 pushrod and 4.6 modular use same flywheel but different counter weight. Make sure U get it right or U will vibrate apart.
What about clevland heads lol. That's what I'm starting with. Thanks for the vid👍
I don’t have any experience with Cleveland heads. Let us know how you like them!
Buy a parts car I got my swap done with some engine upgrades for almost free after selling the unneeded parts
What wheels are those and where did you find that front bumper splitter?
They are XXR 531 wheels. I found the front splitter on eBay. You have to search around to find this kind with a longer bottom edge.
So i have a 72 f250 with a 351. Its bored 40 over with flat tops and cammed. It was used as a farm truck has 5k miles on rebuild but now it just sits. I also have a 02 gt i want to put that in. The manual from the f250 would i be able to use that bellhousing from that or would i still need to find an old 5.0
Not sure if that bellhousing will work. Maybe do some quick research on google. But at least you know the 5.0 bellhousing will fit as a backup plan.
Exhaust set up?
Off brand bbk shorty headers, 3in exhaust pipe with no cross over (true dual setup) and flow master 10 series mufflers. I dump the exhaust towards the ground before the rear axle.
@@CrownRacingCo ok thanks so much
What throttle cable are you using?
I'm using an OEM 2003 V6 throttle cable. This car was a V6 originally. Then, I went to O'Reilly's and bought the universal throttle cable kit. I cut the OEM v6 throttle cable to length and attached the O'Reilly's universal throttle cable end piece with the hole for a bolt. Then I used a bolt and nut to attach the cable end to the throttle linkage on the carb.
How did you get the power steering to work what lines and did you keep the hydro boost
My car was a V6 originally. I used all stock parts from the v6. Stock pump, lines, cooler and steering rack. This also applies to brakes. I still use the vacuum assisted brake booster.
How did u get the original fuel pump to work mine won’t work
I wired mine separately from the cars original fuel pump electrical circuit. I did not use the electrical circuit already in the car because the fuel pump controller originally controls the fuel pump. I used a 12v holley blue pump (for carbureted applications) and wired power and ground to it and used a toggle switch to turn the fuel pump on.
Hey, do y’all happen to be in Texas? I’m looking to make headers soon for my 302 new edge, would y’all like to get a set for the 351?
We are located in Michigan. Thanks for the offer but we don’t have a need for headers right now
@Crown Racing Co. they’ll be a sick set, I have an idea in mind that will be better than 180 degree headers. The 351 helps with mockup purposes. But I got y’all, i might send a set if you wear a decal, that’s later tho 😅😁. I gotta ask, stock k member or tubular?
What year of a 351 did you go with.
Did you remove stock computers? Wiring? Security things?
The only computer i removed was the PCM which is the computer that controls the engine. All other computers are on different electrical circuits so you can keep everything else