The thing I like the most about this interview is that Bryan legit sits there and thinks about the questions and his response before answering. A lot of people have a preset agenda and the answers just roll off their tongue because they aren’t putting any thought, just reading from their mental flash cards.
Did we watch the same video? I feel like Bryan spent half of the time dodging questions or just coming up with some bs on the spot. He did not sound like a well educated individual here. An eloquent and verbose "I don't know" is still just "I don't know."
@@joemama8243😂 that’s what I got out of this too, but Brian is a supreme genius and he’s talking to a very intelligent doctor. They are just on different levels of intellect.
Dr. Mike asked the best possible questions without creating an argument, And Bryan answered all those questions in the best possible manner..! It's a sign of a very good podcast. Edit: I've watched the entire podcast..!
it was inevitable that someone like brian would exist. and thank god it was him. hes so open about all the things he does. hes honestly the best person to be doing this.
It’s fortunate that he also has the financial means from his company’s success to fund his project. Had he been some average wage earner, his dreams would probably just stay as dreams. We’re extremely fortunate he’s using his wealth for the benefit of human health. Imagine if all billionaires used their wealth like this - to solve global challenges. Utopia would probably be reachable.
The problem is that he is using a lot of stuff all the time. He can be measured as often as he wants, but if something positive changes through a new drug you cannot tell if it was really through that drug or treatment or if it was the combined effect of all stuff together and every one thing alone wouldn't'd do anything, or he has started a new treatment a month ago, then the next one, something good happens, everyone thinks it was the second treatment, but it was the first or the one before just acting a little late. I don't think that what he is doing is clinically viable and can only lead to traces of new knowledge.
@@un1kum42 it would still narrow things down REALLY drastically though. tbh starting from the maximum amount of things thrown at the wall, getting a positive, and then narrowing it down to a smaller and smaller subset repeatedly seems like the most efficient way to me
What an amazing episode filled with deep philosophical ideas and conversation. It really shows how we as humans struggle to get past our psychological barriers as a species, and how AI is likely to be our only hope to ever go beyond our biological limitations of thought.
Just remember - we NEED people like Bryan. This kind of endeavors is why so many incurable diseases are not even scary anymore. People have to push the boundaries and haters will continue to stay on the wrong side of history. He's not wrong, he's learning. You can tell by his attitude he's not some Liver King scam.
I don’t think Bryan is a good case study. Like how do you understand the changes within one person when so many variables are being introduced at once? Science is not just throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks, it is taking a methodical approach to cause and effect and ruling out or controlling all unknowns. Most of what Bryan is doing is not that. If anything, the doctors around him are taking advantage of him.
dude, you're an awesome interviewer. you listen closely, let them speak their entire thoughts out, and ask provoking questions without bias. i really appreciate this kind of stuff.
I thought Bryan was obnoxious when he first went viral with what he was trying to do. Every video I watch of this guy he grows on me. After this video I like him even more. His super power is he never gets defensive when he is being criticized. I wish I can be like that more.
For sure. I, for one cannot believe the amount of criticism this guy receives for DARING to further progress within science that could lengthen my own lifespan. It's honestly baffling. And he always sits there and takes it like a champ, answering honestly and with reflection.
That's probably because he´s actually put some deep thought into it, and also, self-criticised it a lot and genuinely views critique as a path of improvement.
This is going to be a good one for sure. What I respect most about Bryan is his openness and sense of humor while putting his body through an extreme kind of experiment and without being too pushy about anything.
I think the fact that he isn't pushy was why by the end I could in some ways respect his reasoning. The amount of times he just simply said "that is correct" to one of Dr.Mike's arguments was refreshing.
Honestly, Bryan’s don’t die philosophy nudged me enough to get in for my regular checkups which I had procrastinated during covid. It’s nice to contemplate a hopeful future for a change. Not everyone will use these ideas to experiment wildly or without their own approach to measurement. Some will just sleep more, eat better, exercise and go for suggested screenings.
13:43 this man is from another planet. The way he sits with the question in such prolonged silence without any defensiveness or signs of a hurt ego is OUTSTANDING for me to observe. I wish i could have that quality. Also Dr. Mike, his questions are so intelligent and so assertive and so, so poignantly insightful, i also wish i had that quality in me.
I’m projecting but I think this guy is a rationalist and the fundamental question of rationality is “what do I think I know and how do I think I know it?” So in my mind he truly listened and attempted to understand the question so that he could ask his mind for the answer.
This is what a conversation between a doctor and an engineer looks like. Both are intellectually sound, yet their logical reasoning skills were built through different mediums of knowledge. Love this episode!!!
yes its interesting to see someone who was trained in "medical" "science" attempt to reconcicle that with evidence based medicine and logical thinking just shows you how backwards "modern" "medicine" is
I'm really blown away by how you're such a good interviewer. You're researched, knowledgeable, sensitive, have your own valuable background to bring to the conversation, and so competent at formulating your thoughts and questions into accessible, understandable, and still precise language.
Doctor Mike paints Bryan as a wacko with the intro and when speaking to other RUclipsrs. Ego has taken over. He is going after Money from my perspective. Not ver doctor like.
@@jooolius sure did buckaroo, interview was sightly better than the “click bait eye popping OMG Bryan is a Crazy” photo. Mike is just like other RUclipsrs. All about the clicks.
I love their respectful conversation, they aren't jumping to conclusions about the other's opinions but actually considering them before telling them theirs. Keep it up Dr. Mike!
An amazing way to show what Bryan is actually trying to do and his views on everything Dr mikes respect towards an idea he is skeptical about is admirable
My biggest takeaway from this is that when Bryan is challenged on his methodology he doesn't get defensive as so many others do, he simply states that he doesn't know and presents his argument as to why he believes it will work and how he is objectively measuring it.
Mike with all the disinformation out there it is a breath of fresh air to have somebody like you on the Internet trying to help people be educated. Thank you so much.
Agreed! It’s a real shame that longevity science has become so closely associated with tech billionaires wanting to live forever because there’s genuinely exciting science going on that could help far more than the ultra-wealthy…
To all Podcasters! its ok to be quiet! I love the short silences between questions, it really creates a sense of professionals considering their answers carefully, giving us as listeners a short period to consider our own answers! This is an example of a perfect podcast! so good! two very different professionals being utterly considerate of each others views and Dr.Mike, your questioning was beautiful!
I think early RUclips days got everyone into jump cuts, and the short video format followed, and now so much content is exhausting. You have to pause or rewind just to have time to take in what you've seen or heard. It's ridiculous.
@@xtiebro They are often just trying to answer quickly, and viewers want that fast, snappy feel... but how much of it are people really taking in and ruminating on when they consume content that quickly?
Silence is just as important as sound. This is true in all conversations and relationships. It gives time to process and creates differential, which are both valuable.
This is SUCH a great example of what a great conversation looks like! Take note of the silence that's left between questions, something which is rarely exercised these days. Great questions formulated in an insightful way and answers to match.
I think this may have been one of my fave podcast episodes of all time. I had followed some of Brian’s experiments peripherally, but with a skeptical eye, thinking, “Okay here’s a rich guy doing something eccentric.” After this interview I have TREMENDOUS respect for what he’s working on and HOW he’s thinking through it. His thoughtful answers reveal a clarity that is enviable. I want to listen again and absorb the depth that this conversation inspired in me. What a fabulously hopeful message. And of course Dr Mike’s own intellect, emotional intelligence and curiosity brought out the best in Brian. Wonderful!
@@PakistanIcecream000 imagine thinking anyone needs your approval to fear death lmao if you were on a plane and the engines failed youd brick your pants, mad cope if you think you wouldnt
@@kathleenmoore9534yall have been saying that for centuries way back when people shouted on a horse carriage road with a sign. How long are yall going to shout this and be wrong? What makes you so different then those who where convinced this was going to happen up to hundreds of years ago? Why repeat history? How’s it different this time?
I would love to see Bryan's work expand to mental health and trauma. I think there is sooooo much humans have to cope with that negatively impacts their health, literally impacting things like immune response, breathing, etc. and to the best of my knowledge, nobody is bridging the gap here either. I would especially like to see this with children/people who grow up in the foster care or group home situations; a massive percentage of these people end up living on the streets and having severe addictions at frighteningly young ages. Nobody can simply just tell those people to sleep more or eat better; the absence of parental and societal love has deep, deep impacts. Imagine somebody could say, "so, you went through [insert trauma here], which resulted in x and *this is how we fix that* "! So few people have access to affordable, quality therapy that supports not only the mental & emotional well being but also tracks things physically to determine physical effects. Healthcare is still far too much of a piecemeal model with specialists not talking to one another and the patient kept largely out of the loop. Maybe one day Bryan will be minister of Health in some part of the world. I wonder what he'd do in a role like that. Anyway, lovely and intriguing interview. :)
@Jade-ms2ys thanks. I've listened to bunch of his talks and he seems to also lack scientific tracking of physical changes with treatment. And not all treatments are effective for all issues. Hopefully we're heading in the right direction though.
I hope @BryanJohnson would read this idea in the comment above& If I had the means I'd be measuring the s**t out of my trauma and effects of therapy! I wanted to do it for Phd but it's really unsustainable here in Russia at the moment
I’m a believer that the sins of the father are visited on the son; aka we don’t have free will because of trauma our parents and grandparents went through. It not only changes our physical DNA while still in our mother’s eggs, while she’s inside our grandmother as a fetus, but her trauma-bonded raising will dictate how she raises you (even if she makes a huge effort to change. I’m proof of that with my son). This pre-born damage changes everything, imo. It’s a faulty foundation to build on… it creates the perfect environment for serious mental health issues
You're legitimately one of the best interviewers I've seen, and this was super interesting. I particularly like the way you asked Brian questions and I really enjoyed the way he answered them and thought about them. Great discussion, please for the love of all things keep interviewing people!
@@grumpyhawk509 She meant “all things” in other words “don’t stop interviewing people for the love you have for life!” As much as he loves life, that’s how much he should interview others. 👍🏼
It's because he's a family medicine doctors. Unlike majority of specialities he has to take time (although limited) to listen to his patients to help treat them. Most important test is the the history and physical! ❤
You need people like him to help push things forward. The average MD scores an E or F when it comes to healthy longevity or general overall health but scores a respectable B or even an A for trauma. If you're involved in a car crash or just been poisoned your MD is King. But they can destroy your longterm health with prescribing your countless pharmaceuticals.This was a good interview and more doctors should be having these conversations.
@@BespokeBookArt Because the money is in selling pharmaceuticals. The entire medical training industry is geared towards prescribing /selling big pharma which is terrible but I wonder why so many medical students don't question this? Maybe because they are book smart but not actually that intelligent. Academia and intelligence are very different things of course.
I absolutely love how empathetic, well thought out and understanding Doctor Mike is. Even if he isn't agreeing with someone, he's not condescending, rude or antagonistic, which is something we need more of these days. The best way to understand something/someone is to communicate and remove ego. There's too many great interviews on this channel to count! I'm a rare disease and multiple rare condition warrior who has lived a very different life than most, and your channel led me to become aquiantences with Bea. She understands more than most people I've known what it's like to be a medically complex person and be judged for superficial and difficult life situations by ignorance. Keep being awesome ❤ I truly hope to have you on my podcast someday!
@sophiemarlonansems it's called "Seriously Random." It's new and not released yet as I'm still recording and editing, but keep an eye out for it on RUclips, Spotify, and Apple. 🙂
Doctor Mike paints Bryan as a wacko with the intro and when speaking to other RUclipsrs. Ego has taken over. He is going after Money from my perspective. Not very doctor like.
A part of the debate around this guy's lifestyle that doesn't get discussed enough is his unique situation to do all this. And I don't mean just the fact he can afford it, which he does talk about. I mean that he had the time in his day, this is basically his job at this point. So he's less having to trade his free time for his health and longevity dedication like most of us would. He gets to still have free time for things he enjoys like family. This changes the quality vs quantity debate quite a lot.
He’s spending the money on the testing so that the average layman doesn’t need to. His recipe meals and certain supplements are affordable. The only expensive thing are the biomarker testing
Is he selling any snake oil? This is where I draw the line. Supplements are not proven to be effective for people who are not lacking that particular vitamin in the first place.
@@MNP208 Yes. I am sure that I'm not shocking anyone by letting you know he sells his own special blend of olive oil and chocolate, as well as supplements because of course he sells supplements. But remember it's for the future of the human species 🙄
The way you sculptured the questions for Bryan is mindblowing. I can literally see the kind of preparation you did before interviewing him on your podcast. Big fan of your work on RUclips, Doctor Mike!
Doctor Mike paints Bryan as a wacko with the intro and when speaking to other RUclipsrs. Ego has taken over. He is going after Money from my perspective. Not ver doctor like.
Bryan Johnson is so admirable. He's striving for excellence and quality in every way. I also admire Bryan to ask the questions that we never have a chance to ask these people behind a screen, that we'll never have a chance to ask, questions that are beyond curious, but are respectfully want to know what's in their heart and mind behind the things they do, believe, feel and want.
I have watched multiple interviews with Bryan Johnson. This was one of the best, it was conducted in a great pace and with questions which really made sense. And Bryan Johnson is a pleasure to speak with I guess. If his clarity of mind is a mirror of his physical health then he is a goalpost for what we all should try to achieve - especially on the philosophical level.
Thank you for making this point about Bryan Johnson! I read the articles written about him and thought "I have to look up this quack." After watching his RUclips channels and looking deeper into Blueprint, this guy makes a ton of sense and should be an example (yes, an extreme one) of health that we can all learn from.
This was an unexpectedly thoughtful conversation with a man who has undoubtedly made a splash in the headlines for being seemingly eccentric in his quest for youth. He came across as much more self aware than I would've expected. Thoroughly enjoyed this one!
@@kingcosworth2643the best thing is having a choice how much time you spend there. Most people that die would probably wish to have been younger longer.
I am impressed by the quality of the interview, both the interviewee and the interviewer. There is really a lot of quality in the questions asked and a lot of intelligent thinking in the answers.
So he’s recognized that he’s in a unique position where he has the ability to focus on future ideology and sees while this may not make him live forever it’s somewhat neutral positive for his health and simultaneously influencing future researchers to pick up the mantle. Gotta say he’s not as crazy as i thought from media
@@e7193 if you want a real response I believe he’s taking some derivative of estrogen that has caused his skin to be somewhat smoother without the feminizing effects. As I said hes the guinea pig for future generations to go that worked, that didn’t. And progress from there
This pod hosted by Dr. Mike and Bryan Johnson provide valuable insights. My key takeaway is the importance of adopting a lifestyle that prioritizes the quality of life. This involves focusing on aspects such as improved nutrition, regular exercise, sufficient sleep, overall mental and emotional well-being, and allowing other uncertainties to resolve themselves. Additionally, it's essential to embrace the mantra of living, loving, and laughing along the way.
I've seen all the media hype Bryan did not generate himself and I'm so glad I watched your interview with him. I've always maintained I want to live forever and everyone says "you'll get bored", Bryan is proving that statement wrong by being humble about his personal achievement and what he wants to communicate more broadly, as with your wap up take away hope. I might achieve my goal but I think Bryan will achieve his.
I really appreciate Bryan’s earnest thoughtfulness - his ability to consider questions, his own experience, and his admission when he doesn’t know or hasn’t considered something. And the questions that provoke this sort of thought. Great conversation between two very thoughtful humans. Great video.
I have so much respect for Bryan! He’s not gatekeeping anything and I truly believe that he’s going to make a difference. He’s also so empathetic and understanding of people who aren’t able to do what he’s doing. He doesn’t expect anyone to walk his path, he doesn’t shame anyone for making “wrong” choices and shares what’s most effective according to the research so we can adapt it to our own lives. He’s basically surrendering his body and life to the research and furthering what we know about longevity. I love watching his videos, fascinating!
He is not empathetic at all. Dudes doing what only 0.001% of the population can and being naive thinking he can live forever. He dies before 100. Watch.
@@OArchivesXI’m a casual viewer of his videos and don’t know anything about his “following”. Wouldn’t call myself a follower as such other than being subscribed to his youtube channel. I watch a lot of creators on here for entertainment or interest. as far as I know he only does things that are backed by science and tangible results. No pseudoscience or opinions. If you don’t like him or his way of life, don’t watch his videos and don’t follow his advice. No one is forcing you into anything 🙂
Second conversation I watch on this channel and now I understand why it has so many subscribers. What a respectful and yet thorough conversation! Well done.
Brilliant and enlightened conversation. Such a thoughtful interview and Bryan has some true humility and very grounded realistic views. I so appreciate Dr Mikes calm and clear style, allowing so much room a such a conversation.
Don't get why some people say the interviewer is being condescending. Just because he's asking pointed questions and challenging the believes doesn't mean it can't be done respectfully. People nowadays are so fragile. Also very impressed with how the answers are provided. Always taking time to think and answering straight to the point and with careful consideration. And he's very self aware.
“people nowadays are so fragile” is such a cop out. people have always been fragile. you’re just feeding into the long held belief that the loud minority is actually the majority
Dr. mike is a hater vying for gotcha moments Big pharma spokesperson trying to take down independent people and free thinkers who are engaged in research outside of big medicine.
I have seen this a lot online, could potentially be a lot of people who speak English as a second language and or don't understand the complexity of the conversation/ don't understand the nuances of asking a complex question holistically not because the person asking the question has that stance but to test ideas.
@@Antifuzz1 I see these comments against the interviewer challenging the guest's views everywhere on the internet. I don't think it is just a non-native English-speaking phenomenon because I also see it on youtube channels focused on American politics. People seem to just have forgotten what's the point of interviews. They either want the guest to do a sales pitch with no interruptions, or they think that an interview is a debate.
This doctor is so smart. Not only he tries to warn and educate the public about the potential drawbacks and dangers of such an extreme lifestyle, but there's a genuine desire to make the interviewee think over many aspects of his don't die philosophy. His knowledge is wholesome and practical, I wish more doctors would be like him. 👏 👏 👏
I admire Bryan Johnson for his innovative spirit and entrepreneurial vision. His ability to merge philosophical and scientific concerns in such ventures showcases his multidimensional approach to problem-solving. Dr. Mike's expertise as a doctor and his pragmatic nature adds depth and perspective to their podcast discussions, making it a valuable and enriching experience. I thoroughly enjoyed the entire video and watched it non-stop!
The concept of living forever might sound great to someone who lives without stress and has the freedom to live the way they want. The idea of me having to work my labour intensive job for eternity sounds like a fate far worse than death, I'll take the death.
I find him delusional, abominable, self-absorbed and entirely detached from the reality. Likely the saddest person I've ever seen in my whole life. Yes, he reflects on things but from a perspective of a super rich American capitalist... A perspective that is reserved for the 0.0001% of this planet, entirely unsustainable at any level. Infinite life on a finite planet makes no mathematical sense and no AI will ever fix that paradox
@@neovyk I'm definitely not miserable. I just find that he's entirely detached from reality. His mission and belief is to advance the human race by doing a single person experiment. A single person experiment that costs millions will do nothing to advance the human race as such, when the majority of that race lives in poverty lacking basic stuff. Very, very few people have access to that level of care that he's using for his experiment. Moreover, thinking that the outcomes of a single case study can be generalised and considered valid for the entire population is flawed and goes against the very core of that science that he claims he understands and uses to his benefit. And ultimately - longevity is overrated. It really really is.
I really love not necessarily Bryan's content but his intent and transparency with his intent. He's a guinea pig and wants his work and research to advance the scene, even if his methods and procedures are flawed at times (you run a continuous experiment for years and not goof here and there) he's putting a lot of information into the longevity scene.
I LOVE the fact that they have their own opinions and are able to have a super chill, respectful conversation!! This is a whole VIBE and I’m loving it. I have a lot of respect for these two men.
Remember, longevity starts now! People always make the common mistake of worrying about wear and tear when it’s too late, I.e. blasting music in your ear and now you are going deaf and want treatment! Treatment starts now! Practice preventative measures now! NOW!!!
For real. I started changing my lifetsyle a little bit (emphasis on A LITTLE BIT) and I was seen as crazy because I was too young to worry about those things. Like, yeah, sorry I'm trying to prevent future health problems, I really must be crazy 🙄
I swear my brain grew bigger after listening this conversation. Impossible “listen to it in the background”, requires all the attention to understand this deep conversation. Loved every second of it!
It's true, I was sitting behind you and I could hear your skull cracking apart from the pressure, I got scared and passed out. Have you seen my wallet, by the way?
I LOVE how respectful Dr. Mike is. He makes the interview with healthy skepticism but remains open minded at the same time. What an incredible interviewer. Thank you for this, I truly appreciate it.
@@decoy8198 It's a question of perspective. Words have power. This is called positive psychology. Using words like “death” increases my stress level and therefore my range of thinking. Those who fight with a cool head fight better and are not cramped like he is. Better to climb upwards in life than to only hold on before death. Do you feel the emotional difference when you read this?
If a human’s goal is to reproduce prior to death, in a post- death society the core instinct would be to not die because the opportunity for reproduction is always available. Just on a logical sense I kinda get it.
Only ten minutes in but I do respect this guy more than I thought I was going to. I don't necessarily agree with him on everything but he's a lot less arrogant than I was expecting him to be.
Of all the things Bryan has done, I most admire him because he did something very few people do: he saw the way his life was going, didn't like that trajectory and changed it. How many people really truly do that? In their 40's? He seems so happy in his life and he was so very unhappy before. I say good for him.
I got to say, this touched me on a personal level - not so much because im very interested in anti aging procedures (thoough it does sound like a fun sience field), but instead because of the utmost respect you guys had for each other. Both of you guys were 100% willing to listen out the other person, there was no talking over the other, even when you disagreed you were respecting yourself on a personal level. Long story short thanks for this beautiful conversation and best of luck to both of you
Thanks to both for this video. I enjoy it deeply. I stumbled upon Bryan through diary of a CEO and find him fascinating. I disregard all the hate he gets, I see in him a truly generous and dedicated person that wants to achieve a goal and he is not hurting ANYONE by doing so. I enjoy Mike’s approach to this discussion and it was a genuine moment with good questions. Great content
I think something like this at some point of the interview but he also say that he's gonna put all the information gathered of his proyect for free and who knows maybe between all that we find some few things that could benefit medical advancement (not necessarily human inmortality but in other kind of stuff). @@Planetside223
I am so impressed by this interview. Both men are extremely intelligent and able to have a conversation delving in to the whys, whats, whens, and hows. Not always agreeing upon everything, but being absolutely respectful and listening intently and understanding the other’s opinion, with what seemed to be great respect. I honestly find this whole exchange fascinating. Although I do have a lot of the same questions, doubts, and concerns as Dr. Mike, I found myself also understanding Bryan’s take on certain ideas and concepts. This is his experience and his reality and he is certainly not an ignorant man. Brilliant interview, gentlemen. 👍
I freaking LOVE this interview. BEST CHOICE OF PERSON TO HAVE DR.MIKE, WELL DONE. I am by no means encouraging the trend of following Bryan Johnson, to each his own, he seems like a good person and i am not against him either, but simply WATCHING the brilliance of two men TALK with no malice, no bravado, no invalid questions makes me so happy. Its HIGH TIME we as the public received an intellectual beneficial conversation from two human beings that care about humanity.
@@matheusulisses5579 I don't think there is a point in asking Bryan "natty or not" for what he does. He definitely optimizes his hormonal health which might result in him taking HRT.
I think it's a mistake to look at him as some kinda role model. He's a science experiment, and you gotta respect his dedication. A lot of what he does has potential to really help us.
Agreed. It sounds like he does a lot of good, but he’s not really saying or doing anything groundbreaking. The idea he presented in this interview is “someone eventually will invent super intelligent ai and well live forever. I don’t know how, but someone probably will and I won’t have to die ever.”
Not really. There's absolutely nothing we can learn from him, because he does so many things to live for such a long time that we will never know what actually works.
He can be both of those things. I think Bryan is a role model of dedication to the fundamentals of our lives which we let run away from us for pleasure pr ego
@@lilium_lancifolium That's just not true. He's being monitored closely by professionals. I'm sure they have a pretty good understanding of what's working or not.
Exactly what Lilium said. Almost nothing to be learned also since what he is doing is trying things that are already in research. The actual research takes hundreds and even thousands of people to figure out if it has a positive correlation to the lifespan and quality. For example even though there is so much research on the heart medicines of today, still doing meta research on the hundreds of studies reveals that it is not so cut and dry if they are good or not. Doing research on one single person is for nothing, when research done on hundreds of thousands if millions of people has difficulty revealing the truth. Not to say he can't prove it for himself. That he can do but to say it will work for everyone is pretty ballsy.
I am 100% with Bryan on the importance of sleep, and I have used my Whoop strap to figure out what things affect my sleep. I'm still working on improvements.
I use sleep trackers as well, and I do find them useful. I'd say in response to Dr. Mike's point that you'll know if you slept shitty without one, this is true. And I am definitely a better judge of how I slept or how rested I am than my sleep trackers. But I think the insights they can provide are useful in addition to how I feel. For example, if I'm not well rested, what can the data tell me? Maybe my depth of sleep appears to be poor (a big issue for me by the looks of it) or some sleep trackers can detect sleep apnea. Then it becomes a matter of how can I improve this. I think there is a tendency for some to over rely on technology, and I think that's problematic and cause harm. (I've definitely seen bad data on my sleep trackers, but I usually know why.) But for the right mindset, it can be a good supplemental tool.
Wow, the best interview I have ever seen. The questions are perfect; the pace, the non-bias, the curveball questions, etc. And I watch a lot of Lex, Tucker, etc. Amazing.
I love what he says about people not focusing on wealth and status and more on just living and being healthy which is something we all have in common. Will definitely make the world a better place I think.
I love Bryan. I really admire his discipline and how he's thought through his whole philosophy. Good to see Dr Mike listening so closely with an open mind.
I have a lot of respect for Bryan watching this. Its interesting that everyone keeps saying he looks healthy and ill at the same time and I realised it could be his eyes. His eyes just look so tired while his body looks healthy. I wonder if he takes into account the toll of stress and mental health on physical health. Objectively speaking, no matter how much control you have and like having, sometimes that can be very stressful internally and counterproductive to extending his physical wellbeing. To kick your feet up and just relax even with inevitable bad things is both a blessing and a mode of healing for humans, regardless of who you are.
It's a work in progress, all of it. So you have a good point ✍️ I think it's possible that Bryan might not complete his goal in this lifetime, and that someone else might.
@@alextromler6407 as long as he can be home and in bed by 8:30 pm I guess. His longevity lifestyle is probably toxic to everyone that has to deal with him.
This checked all of the boxes of a great interview. Listening, prompting interesting and relevant conversation, providing valuable and educated criticism, adapting the questions to fit the tone, giving disclaimers when something moves into opinion territory. Submit it as material for college courses on interviewing.
genuinly love this episode. The conversation is so calming to listen to because both participants think in depth about what they're saying/asking. Both answer in they're own way of thinking and perception without being biased and subjective about things. I'd listen to hundreds of hours of this!
This was SUCH an interesting conversation. Bryan Johnson is a futurist, through and through. Once I thought about it (took me 2 days to hit play) and gave the vid it's chance, I was completely engrossed within the first 3 minutes. This was one of the fastest hour long pods I've sat to watch. Thank you both for being open and candid on THE eternal hot topic
The best interview to Bryan to date. Excellent mix of philosophical and scientific questions and excellent follow up questions. My take on Bryan’s attempt is that it will indeed be a reference to future humans, he will answer the what if question that 100% of us have but don’t have the time, resources or just the will power to discover. Now here is what I think will happen either he will die of other causes like accident and will be unable to accomplish his goal, or just like he predicted AI will have the answer to his question before he can. I’m a Christian and my other take on the matter is that the flesh has an expiration date and only the soul survives. Still I enjoy every minute of intellectual conversation this two had.
Absolutely fantastic interview. I've not heard of the guy before, his answers even where my instinctive reaction was to disagree, were still genuinely interesting and well constructed. What I'm getting the most is how levelled the discussion was, it feels how a debate should aspire to be, questions, thought out answers (I wished more people including myself paused more often before answering), actively listening, and open conclusions from both sides.
I didn’t how much I needed this podcast because in most cases I see videos with Bryan Johnson as rich man with some cool slash weird gimmick while this podcast actually deeply shows he is thoughts process rather simply saying I want live longer.
G, doctor Mike is on fire 🔥🔥🔥 I absolutely loved that interview, what a great questions, finally someone is challenging Bryan believes. I also applaud Bryan’s ability to explain his prospective without being too defensive or aggressive. Great conversation!
I'd love you to interview the Blue Zone's guy, Dan Beuttner. He's a natgeo explorer who researches centurions and "Blue Zones" places around the world and studies the commonalities in populations where most live healthy into 90s and 100s. He really pushes more specifics when it comes to diet and exercise etc. There's a Netflix doc series about it and he has several books. I read them and they seem like sound science, and he's backed by NatGEO. But I'd love to see him chat with Dr. Mike!!
I've watched many interviews with Bryan Johnson. This, by far, is the best interview. You really listened intensely to Bryan without making it about you. Excellent interview. I'm subscribing!
I love how respectful and calm these podcasts are, especially if really great questions and insightful answers given. Even if everything is based on opinion, it's still so interesting to listen.
This was such a thought provoking conversations. It is interesting to see from multiple perspectives the idea of death versus quality of life as well as views towards death. You did such a great job Dr.Mike with such great question. It was a wonderful podcast episode!
what an absolute masterclass on both ends. The right questions were asked by Dr.Mike and Bryan was open. Both discussing the subject calmly while putting their opinions/experiences on the table in a transparent way, even if they colide at times. Another great interview from Dr.Mike
YESSS I'VE BEEN LITERALLY WAITING FOR A VIDEO ON THIS. I was sad when I was looking around for an interview and couldn't find one with you and him. SO excited to watch this. Thank you!
Happy to see this topic get more mainstream coverage!! Bryan is not the only one with this goal, there are many scientists working towards it. Hopeful this will be big in the future.
He's not "obsessed"... He could give sh!t all to the rest of the world with the kind of money he has, instead he's doing more for the human race than the science community together ever could, or would. However he's going about it is his prerogative, and he's doing so well I'm truly happy for him.
Dr. Mike is my favorite content creator. I have enjoyed every video I have seen by him. He brings up topics that make you think and increase your medical knowledge. I love how respectful he is to everyone. And I love how he reminds me of my baby brother. They have similar features, so he feels like another baby brother to me who is teaching me instead of the other way around. Keeping doing what you do, Dr Mike.
The thing I like the most about this interview is that Bryan legit sits there and thinks about the questions and his response before answering. A lot of people have a preset agenda and the answers just roll off their tongue because they aren’t putting any thought, just reading from their mental flash cards.
Yes i enjoyed that too
He definitely has some preset agenda to some extent
@@alfiewright1396if he didnt then this podcast wudnt exist lol
Yep. Bang on observation.
Did we watch the same video? I feel like Bryan spent half of the time dodging questions or just coming up with some bs on the spot. He did not sound like a well educated individual here. An eloquent and verbose "I don't know" is still just "I don't know."
We all thought this was an episode on health, but it’s actually a masterclass on how to have a respectful conversation. Incredible
Yeah 😂 I keep thinking I'd be stretching some mental/politeness muscles throughout the whole convo
that was a master class of how a non doctor rekt a doctor lol
@@joemama8243😂 that’s what I got out of this too, but Brian is a supreme genius and he’s talking to a very intelligent doctor. They are just on different levels of intellect.
I'm still amazed that they were both able to keep their cool.
Dr Mike killed it (no pun intended). Bryan ... ooof. I'm sure he's lovely.
Dr. Mike asked the best possible questions without creating an argument,
And
Bryan answered all those questions in the best possible manner..!
It's a sign of a very good podcast.
Edit: I've watched the entire podcast..!
And what a well-worded compliment you gave too, brother!
@@aciuschristophores7789And what a well worded reply!
They are both extremely intelligent and well to do.
Brian is obsessive compulsive to say the very least but what many ppl forget is that he makes money off this whole thing
@@ABc-nu6jb puplic experiment that costs millions to upkeep without money? whats your point
I admire this man
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Such a great comment 😂
Go back to your own time , chrono-immigrant.
lol
I like how Doctor Mike always has an open mindset with any conversation or belief
Yes. He’s an amazing communicator / host ❤
Ehhhhhhhh....
@@puffdaddy69open mindset doesn’t mean just going along with falsity.
thats why we need david goggins next. dr mike is such a great podcaster
Naaaah I wanna see him get sassy at obvious crackery
it was inevitable that someone like brian would exist. and thank god it was him. hes so open about all the things he does. hes honestly the best person to be doing this.
Very good point. I like him
It’s fortunate that he also has the financial means from his company’s success to fund his project. Had he been some average wage earner, his dreams would probably just stay as dreams. We’re extremely fortunate he’s using his wealth for the benefit of human health.
Imagine if all billionaires used their wealth like this - to solve global challenges. Utopia would probably be reachable.
The problem is that he is using a lot of stuff all the time. He can be measured as often as he wants, but if something positive changes through a new drug you cannot tell if it was really through that drug or treatment or if it was the combined effect of all stuff together and every one thing alone wouldn't'd do anything, or he has started a new treatment a month ago, then the next one, something good happens, everyone thinks it was the second treatment, but it was the first or the one before just acting a little late.
I don't think that what he is doing is clinically viable and can only lead to traces of new knowledge.
@@un1kum42 it would still narrow things down REALLY drastically though. tbh starting from the maximum amount of things thrown at the wall, getting a positive, and then narrowing it down to a smaller and smaller subset repeatedly seems like the most efficient way to me
Others have done it but less openly and by experimenting on others not themselves.
What an amazing episode filled with deep philosophical ideas and conversation. It really shows how we as humans struggle to get past our psychological barriers as a species, and how AI is likely to be our only hope to ever go beyond our biological limitations of thought.
Just remember - we NEED people like Bryan. This kind of endeavors is why so many incurable diseases are not even scary anymore. People have to push the boundaries and haters will continue to stay on the wrong side of history. He's not wrong, he's learning. You can tell by his attitude he's not some Liver King scam.
I don’t think Bryan is a good case study. Like how do you understand the changes within one person when so many variables are being introduced at once?
Science is not just throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks, it is taking a methodical approach to cause and effect and ruling out or controlling all unknowns. Most of what Bryan is doing is not that.
If anything, the doctors around him are taking advantage of him.
@@PeripheralVisionary. still interesting
dude, you're an awesome interviewer. you listen closely, let them speak their entire thoughts out, and ask provoking questions without bias. i really appreciate this kind of stuff.
I believe that’s definitely part of why he’s such a good doctor!
He made good questions but he simps for big pharma
Without bias is inaccurate, but the other points I agree with.
Yeah, the constant look of contempt and a patronising disposition is clearly a good trait to have both as a doctor and as a podcaster.
@@notaras1985 Lol - you're troll bot that is stealling Victoria Pheifer's images and videos and uploading on your troll bot channel.
I thought Bryan was obnoxious when he first went viral with what he was trying to do. Every video I watch of this guy he grows on me. After this video I like him even more. His super power is he never gets defensive when he is being criticized. I wish I can be like that more.
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For sure. I, for one cannot believe the amount of criticism this guy receives for DARING to further progress within science that could lengthen my own lifespan. It's honestly baffling. And he always sits there and takes it like a champ, answering honestly and with reflection.
@@KingNStheMighty Well said! Couldn't agree more!
That's probably because he´s actually put some deep thought into it, and also, self-criticised it a lot and genuinely views critique as a path of improvement.
@@Sindrijo Very true! Good insight!
This is going to be a good one for sure. What I respect most about Bryan is his openness and sense of humor while putting his body through an extreme kind of experiment and without being too pushy about anything.
At the same time his life is the least extreme and the most extreme 😂
His method is too expensive for anyone outside his earning class, and he's not making money on it.
There's no reason for him to be pushy.
I think the fact that he isn't pushy was why by the end I could in some ways respect his reasoning. The amount of times he just simply said "that is correct" to one of Dr.Mike's arguments was refreshing.
Honestly, Bryan’s don’t die philosophy nudged me enough to get in for my regular checkups which I had procrastinated during covid. It’s nice to contemplate a hopeful future for a change. Not everyone will use these ideas to experiment wildly or without their own approach to measurement. Some will just sleep more, eat better, exercise and go for suggested screenings.
Glade your AWAKE !❤
13:43 this man is from another planet. The way he sits with the question in such prolonged silence without any defensiveness or signs of a hurt ego is OUTSTANDING for me to observe. I wish i could have that quality.
Also Dr. Mike, his questions are so intelligent and so assertive and so, so poignantly insightful, i also wish i had that quality in me.
Jesus is coming back. . Please Get right with the Lord and read the Bible.
@@kathleenmoore9534he’s real?
I’m projecting but I think this guy is a rationalist and the fundamental question of rationality is “what do I think I know and how do I think I know it?” So in my mind he truly listened and attempted to understand the question so that he could ask his mind for the answer.
@@impo9645Nah but those M&M people are definitely real
Reminds be of Steve Jobs
This is what a conversation between a doctor and an engineer looks like. Both are intellectually sound, yet their logical reasoning skills were built through different mediums of knowledge. Love this episode!!!
Well said!
i don’t think he’s an engineer
@@Meneya probably meant software engineer / computer scientist based on his prior companies
yes its interesting to see someone who was trained in "medical" "science" attempt to reconcicle that with evidence based medicine and logical thinking
just shows you how backwards "modern" "medicine" is
Engineer lol ? No.
Me sitting on my couch eating potato chips: 'Bryan has some really good points."
Lol
living forever is a good point?
@@daan260 improving life expectancy is
Oooo what flavor?
Yeah what flavor?
I'm really blown away by how you're such a good interviewer. You're researched, knowledgeable, sensitive, have your own valuable background to bring to the conversation, and so competent at formulating your thoughts and questions into accessible, understandable, and still precise language.
Doctor Mike paints Bryan as a wacko with the intro and when speaking to other RUclipsrs. Ego has taken over. He is going after Money from my perspective. Not ver doctor like.
@@Alexander300grdid you watch the video bucko?
@@Alexander300grbrother is just wrong. That’s not at all what happened throughout this video.
@@jooolius sure did buckaroo, interview was sightly better than the “click bait eye popping OMG Bryan is a Crazy” photo. Mike is just like other RUclipsrs. All about the clicks.
@@Alexander300gryou just invented a false narrative to align with your beliefs about youtubers. delusional
I love their respectful conversation, they aren't jumping to conclusions about the other's opinions but actually considering them before telling them theirs. Keep it up Dr. Mike!
An amazing way to show what Bryan is actually trying to do and his views on everything
Dr mikes respect towards an idea he is skeptical about is admirable
@@VolleeJesus is coming back. . Please Get right with the Lord and read the Bible.
Dr. Mike is just like every other doctor. Bryan is a revolutionary
@@kathleenmoore9534keep your fantasy to yourself
My biggest takeaway from this is that when Bryan is challenged on his methodology he doesn't get defensive as so many others do, he simply states that he doesn't know and presents his argument as to why he believes it will work and how he is objectively measuring it.
Mike with all the disinformation out there it is a breath of fresh air to have somebody like you on the Internet trying to help people be educated. Thank you so much.
oh man the lack of a comma after "Mike" really tripped me up a little bit 😅😄
@@sgsgbaegbdfb6416 True 💀💀
Agreed! It’s a real shame that longevity science has become so closely associated with tech billionaires wanting to live forever because there’s genuinely exciting science going on that could help far more than the ultra-wealthy…
@@sgsgbaegbdfb6416 sorry ‘bout that 😂
@user-hq4vj3go7boverly aggressive there mate, grammar is there for a reason.
To all Podcasters! its ok to be quiet! I love the short silences between questions, it really creates a sense of professionals considering their answers carefully, giving us as listeners a short period to consider our own answers! This is an example of a perfect podcast! so good! two very different professionals being utterly considerate of each others views and Dr.Mike, your questioning was beautiful!
I think early RUclips days got everyone into jump cuts, and the short video format followed, and now so much content is exhausting. You have to pause or rewind just to have time to take in what you've seen or heard. It's ridiculous.
@@SilverFlame819this makes me feel better about how often I pause or rewind content... was thinking something was slow with me!
@@xtiebro They are often just trying to answer quickly, and viewers want that fast, snappy feel... but how much of it are people really taking in and ruminating on when they consume content that quickly?
Silence is just as important as sound. This is true in all conversations and relationships. It gives time to process and creates differential, which are both valuable.
This is SUCH a great example of what a great conversation looks like! Take note of the silence that's left between questions, something which is rarely exercised these days. Great questions formulated in an insightful way and answers to match.
I admire this dude for performing these science experiments on himself, at least, instead of other people.
Great point
That too
Being a billionaire where he can definitely afford performing it on others
Didn't get take his sons blood? I get your point though, he is at least putting his own body on the line.
@@kj_H65fblood draws are pretty harmless… especially if you’re like 20
They're bot experiments...its just a mess
As a person who is 9173 years old I can confirm this video is real
Oh ok😅
I can confirm it is real too im 6969 years old
I thought i was the only one, i think i am gone throw a birthday party the next month i should be 10k by then hopefully 🥸
Im pretty sure this video is true im 4115 years old and i eat 98% of hes diet 🤔
Long live the Emperor!
I think this may have been one of my fave podcast episodes of all time. I had followed some of Brian’s experiments peripherally, but with a skeptical eye, thinking, “Okay here’s a rich guy doing something eccentric.”
After this interview I have TREMENDOUS respect for what he’s working on and HOW he’s thinking through it. His thoughtful answers reveal a clarity that is enviable. I want to listen again and absorb the depth that this conversation inspired in me.
What a fabulously hopeful message. And of course Dr Mike’s own intellect, emotional intelligence and curiosity brought out the best in Brian. Wonderful!
I've met Bryan in person, and have to say he's an incredible human, and puts a lot of energy into open sourcing such an awesome protocol.
I like him but disapprove of his fear for death.
Jesus is coming back. . Please Get right with the Lord and read the Bible.
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@@PakistanIcecream000 imagine thinking anyone needs your approval to fear death lmao
if you were on a plane and the engines failed youd brick your pants, mad cope if you think you wouldnt
@@kathleenmoore9534yall have been saying that for centuries way back when people shouted on a horse carriage road with a sign. How long are yall going to shout this and be wrong? What makes you so different then those who where convinced this was going to happen up to hundreds of years ago? Why repeat history? How’s it different this time?
My mom: don't run with scissors
Me: no previous generation has ever correctly mapped the future. 150 years ago horses..
I would love to see Bryan's work expand to mental health and trauma. I think there is sooooo much humans have to cope with that negatively impacts their health, literally impacting things like immune response, breathing, etc. and to the best of my knowledge, nobody is bridging the gap here either. I would especially like to see this with children/people who grow up in the foster care or group home situations; a massive percentage of these people end up living on the streets and having severe addictions at frighteningly young ages. Nobody can simply just tell those people to sleep more or eat better; the absence of parental and societal love has deep, deep impacts.
Imagine somebody could say, "so, you went through [insert trauma here], which resulted in x and *this is how we fix that* "! So few people have access to affordable, quality therapy that supports not only the mental & emotional well being but also tracks things physically to determine physical effects. Healthcare is still far too much of a piecemeal model with specialists not talking to one another and the patient kept largely out of the loop. Maybe one day Bryan will be minister of Health in some part of the world. I wonder what he'd do in a role like that.
Anyway, lovely and intriguing interview. :)
perhaps dr Gabor mate would interest you on this subject
@Jade-ms2ys thanks. I've listened to bunch of his talks and he seems to also lack scientific tracking of physical changes with treatment. And not all treatments are effective for all issues. Hopefully we're heading in the right direction though.
That's an excellent point
I hope @BryanJohnson would read this idea in the comment above& If I had the means I'd be measuring the s**t out of my trauma and effects of therapy! I wanted to do it for Phd but it's really unsustainable here in Russia at the moment
I’m a believer that the sins of the father are visited on the son; aka we don’t have free will because of trauma our parents and grandparents went through. It not only changes our physical DNA while still in our mother’s eggs, while she’s inside our grandmother as a fetus, but her trauma-bonded raising will dictate how she raises you (even if she makes a huge effort to change. I’m proof of that with my son).
This pre-born damage changes everything, imo. It’s a faulty foundation to build on… it creates the perfect environment for serious mental health issues
You're legitimately one of the best interviewers I've seen, and this was super interesting. I particularly like the way you asked Brian questions and I really enjoyed the way he answered them and thought about them.
Great discussion, please for the love of all things keep interviewing people!
For the love of God you mean? Or don't believe in God?
@@grumpyhawk509 She meant “all things” in other words “don’t stop interviewing people for the love you have for life!”
As much as he loves life, that’s how much he should interview others.
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It's because he's a family medicine doctors. Unlike majority of specialities he has to take time (although limited) to listen to his patients to help treat them. Most important test is the the history and physical! ❤
You need people like him to help push things forward. The average MD scores an E or F when it comes to healthy longevity or general overall health but scores a respectable B or even an A for trauma. If you're involved in a car crash or just been poisoned your MD is King. But they can destroy your longterm health with prescribing your countless pharmaceuticals.This was a good interview and more doctors should be having these conversations.
Yes, I agree fully and I wonder why that is, htat the people paid and trained to improve peoples health often destroy it longterm.
@@BespokeBookArt Because the money is in selling pharmaceuticals. The entire medical training industry is geared towards prescribing /selling big pharma which is terrible but I wonder why so many medical students don't question this? Maybe because they are book smart but not actually that intelligent. Academia and intelligence are very different things of course.
I absolutely love how empathetic, well thought out and understanding Doctor Mike is. Even if he isn't agreeing with someone, he's not condescending, rude or antagonistic, which is something we need more of these days. The best way to understand something/someone is to communicate and remove ego. There's too many great interviews on this channel to count! I'm a rare disease and multiple rare condition warrior who has lived a very different life than most, and your channel led me to become aquiantences with Bea. She understands more than most people I've known what it's like to be a medically complex person and be judged for superficial and difficult life situations by ignorance. Keep being awesome ❤ I truly hope to have you on my podcast someday!
Right I really admire that!
What’s your podcast called?
@sophiemarlonansems it's called "Seriously Random." It's new and not released yet as I'm still recording and editing, but keep an eye out for it on RUclips, Spotify, and Apple. 🙂
Dr Mike for president!
Doctor Mike paints Bryan as a wacko with the intro and when speaking to other RUclipsrs. Ego has taken over. He is going after Money from my perspective. Not very doctor like.
A part of the debate around this guy's lifestyle that doesn't get discussed enough is his unique situation to do all this. And I don't mean just the fact he can afford it, which he does talk about. I mean that he had the time in his day, this is basically his job at this point. So he's less having to trade his free time for his health and longevity dedication like most of us would. He gets to still have free time for things he enjoys like family. This changes the quality vs quantity debate quite a lot.
He’s spending the money on the testing so that the average layman doesn’t need to. His recipe meals and certain supplements are affordable. The only expensive thing are the biomarker testing
Is he selling any snake oil? This is where I draw the line. Supplements are not proven to be effective for people who are not lacking that particular vitamin in the first place.
@@MNP208he was literally selling snake oil yesterday 😂 (April 1st)
@@MNP208 Yes. I am sure that I'm not shocking anyone by letting you know he sells his own special blend of olive oil and chocolate, as well as supplements because of course he sells supplements. But remember it's for the future of the human species 🙄
@@SarcasticDatahis stuff is basically break even. He already made a ton of money, stop being so skeptical
The way you sculptured the questions for Bryan is mindblowing. I can literally see the kind of preparation you did before interviewing him on your podcast. Big fan of your work on RUclips, Doctor Mike!
Doctor Mike paints Bryan as a wacko with the intro and when speaking to other RUclipsrs. Ego has taken over. He is going after Money from my perspective. Not ver doctor like.
Bryan Johnson is so admirable. He's striving for excellence and quality in every way. I also admire Bryan to ask the questions that we never have a chance to ask these people behind a screen, that we'll never have a chance to ask, questions that are beyond curious, but are respectfully want to know what's in their heart and mind behind the things they do, believe, feel and want.
I have watched multiple interviews with Bryan Johnson. This was one of the best, it was conducted in a great pace and with questions which really made sense. And Bryan Johnson is a pleasure to speak with I guess. If his clarity of mind is a mirror of his physical health then he is a goalpost for what we all should try to achieve - especially on the philosophical level.
Thank you for making this point about Bryan Johnson! I read the articles written about him and thought "I have to look up this quack." After watching his RUclips channels and looking deeper into Blueprint, this guy makes a ton of sense and should be an example (yes, an extreme one) of health that we can all learn from.
I also enjoyed Tucker Carlson’ interview
This was an unexpectedly thoughtful conversation with a man who has undoubtedly made a splash in the headlines for being seemingly eccentric in his quest for youth. He came across as much more self aware than I would've expected. Thoroughly enjoyed this one!
The idea of living forever sounds like hell, no thanks
@@kingcosworth2643 You don't have to do it, but I bet your tone would change when you're finally decaying at a nursing home.
I also was not expecting him to be as self aware as he appeared to be during this interview. I enjoyed it.
@@kingcosworth2643the best thing is having a choice how much time you spend there.
Most people that die would probably wish to have been younger longer.
@@kingcosworth2643the idea is not necessarily living forever, but living until you choose not to, or, not dying when you want to live
I loved that Bryan actually stopped to think about answers. This was a brilliant conversation between two very smart human beings. Loved it ❤
I am impressed by the quality of the interview, both the interviewee and the interviewer. There is really a lot of quality in the questions asked and a lot of intelligent thinking in the answers.
So he’s recognized that he’s in a unique position where he has the ability to focus on future ideology and sees while this may not make him live forever it’s somewhat neutral positive for his health and simultaneously influencing future researchers to pick up the mantle. Gotta say he’s not as crazy as i thought from media
Shows how the media sensationalise things
just look at his face. you’re seriously calling that neutral positive ?
@@e7193 if you want a real response I believe he’s taking some derivative of estrogen that has caused his skin to be somewhat smoother without the feminizing effects. As I said hes the guinea pig for future generations to go that worked, that didn’t. And progress from there
You shouldn’t have been listening to the media in the first place
whats wrong with his face ??? He just has glass skin @e7193
I am shocked at what a talented interviewer Dr Mike is. New Yorkers are not afraid to ask you hard questions to your face :)
those were not hard lol they were all answered and debunked easily, the doctor just wants more patients lol so he wants people to live unhealthy
I thought Dr Mike is Canadian.
@@argoneonoblehe’s actually originally from Russia.
A Russian New Yorker at that !
@@argoneonoble he Russian, lil f*ck
This pod hosted by Dr. Mike and Bryan Johnson provide valuable insights. My key takeaway is the importance of adopting a lifestyle that prioritizes the quality of life. This involves focusing on aspects such as improved nutrition, regular exercise, sufficient sleep, overall mental and emotional well-being, and allowing other uncertainties to resolve themselves. Additionally, it's essential to embrace the mantra of living, loving, and laughing along the way.
I've seen all the media hype Bryan did not generate himself and I'm so glad I watched your interview with him. I've always maintained I want to live forever and everyone says "you'll get bored", Bryan is proving that statement wrong by being humble about his personal achievement and what he wants to communicate more broadly, as with your wap up take away hope.
I might achieve my goal but I think Bryan will achieve his.
I really appreciate Bryan’s earnest thoughtfulness - his ability to consider questions, his own experience, and his admission when he doesn’t know or hasn’t considered something. And the questions that provoke this sort of thought. Great conversation between two very thoughtful humans. Great video.
I have so much respect for Bryan! He’s not gatekeeping anything and I truly believe that he’s going to make a difference. He’s also so empathetic and understanding of people who aren’t able to do what he’s doing. He doesn’t expect anyone to walk his path, he doesn’t shame anyone for making “wrong” choices and shares what’s most effective according to the research so we can adapt it to our own lives. He’s basically surrendering his body and life to the research and furthering what we know about longevity. I love watching his videos, fascinating!
@@OArchivesXwhat is this "psuedoscience" you speak of?
He is not empathetic at all. Dudes doing what only 0.001% of the population can and being naive thinking he can live forever.
He dies before 100. Watch.
@@etz8360 pretending his n=1 case study has massive bearings on the wellbeing of humans as a species
@@OArchivesXI’m a casual viewer of his videos and don’t know anything about his “following”. Wouldn’t call myself a follower as such other than being subscribed to his youtube channel. I watch a lot of creators on here for entertainment or interest. as far as I know he only does things that are backed by science and tangible results. No pseudoscience or opinions. If you don’t like him or his way of life, don’t watch his videos and don’t follow his advice. No one is forcing you into anything 🙂
@@etz8360 seems like you're working for someone
Second conversation I watch on this channel and now I understand why it has so many subscribers. What a respectful and yet thorough conversation! Well done.
Brilliant and enlightened conversation. Such a thoughtful interview and Bryan has some true humility and very grounded realistic views. I so appreciate Dr Mikes calm and clear style, allowing so much room a such a conversation.
such a respectful, calm, and insightful conversation. this is how debate and modern-day conversations should be about, regardless of topic.
I like the way this Bryan Johnson talks. The way he’s thinking before answering questions.
Don't get why some people say the interviewer is being condescending. Just because he's asking pointed questions and challenging the believes doesn't mean it can't be done respectfully. People nowadays are so fragile.
Also very impressed with how the answers are provided. Always taking time to think and answering straight to the point and with careful consideration. And he's very self aware.
“people nowadays are so fragile” is such a cop out. people have always been fragile. you’re just feeding into the long held belief that the loud minority is actually the majority
Dr. mike is a hater vying for gotcha moments
Big pharma spokesperson trying to take down independent people and free thinkers who are engaged in research outside of big medicine.
I have seen this a lot online, could potentially be a lot of people who speak English as a second language and or don't understand the complexity of the conversation/ don't understand the nuances of asking a complex question holistically not because the person asking the question has that stance but to test ideas.
@@Antifuzz1 I see these comments against the interviewer challenging the guest's views everywhere on the internet. I don't think it is just a non-native English-speaking phenomenon because I also see it on youtube channels focused on American politics. People seem to just have forgotten what's the point of interviews. They either want the guest to do a sales pitch with no interruptions, or they think that an interview is a debate.
This doctor is so smart. Not only he tries to warn and educate the public about the potential drawbacks and dangers of such an extreme lifestyle, but there's a genuine desire to make the interviewee think over many aspects of his don't die philosophy. His knowledge is wholesome and practical, I wish more doctors would be like him. 👏 👏 👏
I appreciate no matter right or wrong he hasn't deluded himself into thinking he has all the answers and knows immediately what will happen
Yeah, both were really sharp here
One of the most thought-provoking interesting debates I’ve heard for ages, I was glued for the entire time.. he’s actually quite a philosopher..❤
I admire Bryan Johnson for his innovative spirit and entrepreneurial vision. His ability to merge philosophical and scientific concerns in such ventures showcases his multidimensional approach to problem-solving. Dr. Mike's expertise as a doctor and his pragmatic nature adds depth and perspective to their podcast discussions, making it a valuable and enriching experience. I thoroughly enjoyed the entire video and watched it non-stop!
The concept of living forever might sound great to someone who lives without stress and has the freedom to live the way they want. The idea of me having to work my labour intensive job for eternity sounds like a fate far worse than death, I'll take the death.
I agree with everything u said but ur comment sounds AI generated lol
I find him delusional, abominable, self-absorbed and entirely detached from the reality. Likely the saddest person I've ever seen in my whole life. Yes, he reflects on things but from a perspective of a super rich American capitalist... A perspective that is reserved for the 0.0001% of this planet, entirely unsustainable at any level. Infinite life on a finite planet makes no mathematical sense and no AI will ever fix that paradox
@@Dr.Hiccup I know right? I thought the same thing JAJ
@@neovyk I'm definitely not miserable. I just find that he's entirely detached from reality. His mission and belief is to advance the human race by doing a single person experiment. A single person experiment that costs millions will do nothing to advance the human race as such, when the majority of that race lives in poverty lacking basic stuff. Very, very few people have access to that level of care that he's using for his experiment. Moreover, thinking that the outcomes of a single case study can be generalised and considered valid for the entire population is flawed and goes against the very core of that science that he claims he understands and uses to his benefit.
And ultimately - longevity is overrated. It really really is.
I really love not necessarily Bryan's content but his intent and transparency with his intent. He's a guinea pig and wants his work and research to advance the scene, even if his methods and procedures are flawed at times (you run a continuous experiment for years and not goof here and there) he's putting a lot of information into the longevity scene.
The questions that Doctor Mike asks is always very deep. It is never boring or straightforward
Kudos to both of them. I have a rarely seen a video where a person challenges another's ideas so thoroughly, and yet both are respectful.
I was the person who asked for this video in a comment on another episode of The Checkup! Thanks Dr. Mike! 😊
I LOVE the fact that they have their own opinions and are able to have a super chill, respectful conversation!! This is a whole VIBE and I’m loving it. I have a lot of respect for these two men.
Remember, longevity starts now! People always make the common mistake of worrying about wear and tear when it’s too late, I.e. blasting music in your ear and now you are going deaf and want treatment! Treatment starts now! Practice preventative measures now! NOW!!!
This is true thanks for the inspiration
For real. I started changing my lifetsyle a little bit (emphasis on A LITTLE BIT) and I was seen as crazy because I was too young to worry about those things. Like, yeah, sorry I'm trying to prevent future health problems, I really must be crazy 🙄
Mmm fear mongering, gotta love it.
wear earplugs in concerts. they make great fidelity earplugs that make it so it essentially reduces outside volume but retains audio quality
@@martaribeiro96what stuff did you change?
I swear my brain grew bigger after listening this conversation. Impossible “listen to it in the background”, requires all the attention to understand this deep conversation. Loved every second of it!
You should see a doctor to make sure the swelling doesn't cause brain damage ;) :P
It's true, I was sitting behind you and I could hear your skull cracking apart from the pressure, I got scared and passed out. Have you seen my wallet, by the way?
I LOVE how respectful Dr. Mike is. He makes the interview with healthy skepticism but remains open minded at the same time. What an incredible interviewer. Thank you for this, I truly appreciate it.
Dr. Mike I really enjoyed this interview! You are so well spoken and approached this with such an un biased and open mind. Thank you buddy!
"Don't die" puts me on alert. Live! Gives me strength.
I think he might be expressing that on purpose, to try and fight common unhealthy things people do.
Being alert increases your chances of staying alive though.
You have spent all of the last 20 days living, how many have you spent not dying. Worth thinking about
@@decoy8198 It's a question of perspective. Words have power. This is called positive psychology. Using words like “death” increases my stress level and therefore my range of thinking. Those who fight with a cool head fight better and are not cramped like he is.
Better to climb upwards in life than to only hold on before death. Do you feel the emotional difference when you read this?
If a human’s goal is to reproduce prior to death, in a post- death society the core instinct would be to not die because the opportunity for reproduction is always available. Just on a logical sense I kinda get it.
I finally understand what Bryan Johnson is doing, thank you Dr. Mike for helping us see a better side of his view
I really admire the way he stops and considers each question. It makes me trust his pursuits and his intelligence.
Only ten minutes in but I do respect this guy more than I thought I was going to. I don't necessarily agree with him on everything but he's a lot less arrogant than I was expecting him to be.
Right? Thoughtfulness and humility go a long way. I had the same feeling.
Of all the things Bryan has done, I most admire him because he did something very few people do: he saw the way his life was going, didn't like that trajectory and changed it. How many people really truly do that? In their 40's? He seems so happy in his life and he was so very unhappy before. I say good for him.
I got to say, this touched me on a personal level - not so much because im very interested in anti aging procedures (thoough it does sound like a fun sience field), but instead because of the utmost respect you guys had for each other. Both of you guys were 100% willing to listen out the other person, there was no talking over the other, even when you disagreed you were respecting yourself on a personal level.
Long story short thanks for this beautiful conversation and best of luck to both of you
2 intelligent people with different viewpoints having a civil discussion. I love your podcast.
Thanks to both for this video. I enjoy it deeply. I stumbled upon Bryan through diary of a CEO and find him fascinating. I disregard all the hate he gets, I see in him a truly generous and dedicated person that wants to achieve a goal and he is not hurting ANYONE by doing so. I enjoy Mike’s approach to this discussion and it was a genuine moment with good questions. Great content
Could have donated that money to a childerns hospital. I wouldn’t really call this generous, just someone afraid of death with a large PR budget
@@Planetside223go make that kind of request from your politicians mate.
@@Planetside223you can donate all your money to a child’s hospital. You aren’t even investing your money into various longevity technologies.
@@eduardobreda1279por que no los dos?
I think something like this at some point of the interview but he also say that he's gonna put all the information gathered of his proyect for free and who knows maybe between all that we find some few things that could benefit medical advancement (not necessarily human inmortality but in other kind of stuff). @@Planetside223
17:38 I love how he’s totally blunt like “nah I wanna be somebody I wanna be known (basically regardless of the work it takes)”
Such a great listen. Mike is a terrific interviewer and Byran was a terrific guest.
I came here as a skeptical (even biased) but this whole postcast was so mindblowing and eyes opening - I cannot thank both of you enough.
I am so impressed by this interview. Both men are extremely intelligent and able to have a conversation delving in to the whys, whats, whens, and hows. Not always agreeing upon everything, but being absolutely respectful and listening intently and understanding the other’s opinion, with what seemed to be great respect. I honestly find this whole exchange fascinating. Although I do have a lot of the same questions, doubts, and concerns as Dr. Mike, I found myself also understanding Bryan’s take on certain ideas and concepts. This is his experience and his reality and he is certainly not an ignorant man. Brilliant interview, gentlemen. 👍
I freaking LOVE this interview. BEST CHOICE OF PERSON TO HAVE DR.MIKE, WELL DONE. I am by no means encouraging the trend of following Bryan Johnson, to each his own, he seems like a good person and i am not against him either, but simply WATCHING the brilliance of two men TALK with no malice, no bravado, no invalid questions makes me so happy. Its HIGH TIME we as the public received an intellectual beneficial conversation from two human beings that care about humanity.
I like Bryan! He’s doing an amazing experiment, truly valuable to science 🙏🏻
Well. Look at him!
Is Bryan Fake Natty? 🧐
@@matheusulisses5579 I don't think there is a point in asking Bryan "natty or not" for what he does. He definitely optimizes his hormonal health which might result in him taking HRT.
imagine what can bryan's baseball bat do
@@namelesswonder7077 You're right. But what I said was a joke that you wouldn't understand 😌
I think it's a mistake to look at him as some kinda role model. He's a science experiment, and you gotta respect his dedication. A lot of what he does has potential to really help us.
Agreed. It sounds like he does a lot of good, but he’s not really saying or doing anything groundbreaking. The idea he presented in this interview is “someone eventually will invent super intelligent ai and well live forever. I don’t know how, but someone probably will and I won’t have to die ever.”
Not really. There's absolutely nothing we can learn from him, because he does so many things to live for such a long time that we will never know what actually works.
He can be both of those things.
I think Bryan is a role model of dedication to the fundamentals of our lives which we let run away from us for pleasure pr ego
@@lilium_lancifolium That's just not true. He's being monitored closely by professionals. I'm sure they have a pretty good understanding of what's working or not.
Exactly what Lilium said. Almost nothing to be learned also since what he is doing is trying things that are already in research. The actual research takes hundreds and even thousands of people to figure out if it has a positive correlation to the lifespan and quality. For example even though there is so much research on the heart medicines of today, still doing meta research on the hundreds of studies reveals that it is not so cut and dry if they are good or not. Doing research on one single person is for nothing, when research done on hundreds of thousands if millions of people has difficulty revealing the truth. Not to say he can't prove it for himself. That he can do but to say it will work for everyone is pretty ballsy.
I am 100% with Bryan on the importance of sleep, and I have used my Whoop strap to figure out what things affect my sleep. I'm still working on improvements.
I use sleep trackers as well, and I do find them useful. I'd say in response to Dr. Mike's point that you'll know if you slept shitty without one, this is true. And I am definitely a better judge of how I slept or how rested I am than my sleep trackers. But I think the insights they can provide are useful in addition to how I feel.
For example, if I'm not well rested, what can the data tell me? Maybe my depth of sleep appears to be poor (a big issue for me by the looks of it) or some sleep trackers can detect sleep apnea. Then it becomes a matter of how can I improve this.
I think there is a tendency for some to over rely on technology, and I think that's problematic and cause harm. (I've definitely seen bad data on my sleep trackers, but I usually know why.) But for the right mindset, it can be a good supplemental tool.
Wow, the best interview I have ever seen. The questions are perfect; the pace, the non-bias, the curveball questions, etc. And I watch a lot of Lex, Tucker, etc. Amazing.
I love what he says about people not focusing on wealth and status and more on just living and being healthy which is something we all have in common. Will definitely make the world a better place I think.
I love Bryan. I really admire his discipline and how he's thought through his whole philosophy. Good to see Dr Mike listening so closely with an open mind.
I have a lot of respect for Bryan watching this. Its interesting that everyone keeps saying he looks healthy and ill at the same time and I realised it could be his eyes. His eyes just look so tired while his body looks healthy. I wonder if he takes into account the toll of stress and mental health on physical health. Objectively speaking, no matter how much control you have and like having, sometimes that can be very stressful internally and counterproductive to extending his physical wellbeing. To kick your feet up and just relax even with inevitable bad things is both a blessing and a mode of healing for humans, regardless of who you are.
Eyes will always give away your true age.
It's a work in progress, all of it. So you have a good point ✍️ I think it's possible that Bryan might not complete his goal in this lifetime, and that someone else might.
He was partying the night before lol. Just saw his vid of being in NYC. Maybe that’s why.
@@Mike-dahe parties?
@@alextromler6407 as long as he can be home and in bed by 8:30 pm I guess. His longevity lifestyle is probably toxic to everyone that has to deal with him.
Such a good interview. Well done by both parties.
This checked all of the boxes of a great interview. Listening, prompting interesting and relevant conversation, providing valuable and educated criticism, adapting the questions to fit the tone, giving disclaimers when something moves into opinion territory. Submit it as material for college courses on interviewing.
genuinly love this episode. The conversation is so calming to listen to because both participants think in depth about what they're saying/asking. Both answer in they're own way of thinking and perception without being biased and subjective about things. I'd listen to hundreds of hours of this!
Edit: Not completely unbiased, but well reflective of their biases 'caused by their different jobs/education!
This was SUCH an interesting conversation. Bryan Johnson is a futurist, through and through. Once I thought about it (took me 2 days to hit play) and gave the vid it's chance, I was completely engrossed within the first 3 minutes. This was one of the fastest hour long pods I've sat to watch. Thank you both for being open and candid on THE eternal hot topic
The best interview to Bryan to date. Excellent mix of philosophical and scientific questions and excellent follow up questions. My take on Bryan’s attempt is that it will indeed be a reference to future humans, he will answer the what if question that 100% of us have but don’t have the time, resources or just the will power to discover. Now here is what I think will happen either he will die of other causes like accident and will be unable to accomplish his goal, or just like he predicted AI will have the answer to his question before he can. I’m a Christian and my other take on the matter is that the flesh has an expiration date and only the soul survives. Still I enjoy every minute of intellectual conversation this two had.
Perfect conversation between a scientist and an engineer. This needs to happen significantly more. This is how innovation and advancement happens.
Doctor Mike is becoming my favorite content creator. Love these podcasts
He's definitely my favourite content creator about medical stuff.
Absolutely fantastic interview. I've not heard of the guy before, his answers even where my instinctive reaction was to disagree, were still genuinely interesting and well constructed.
What I'm getting the most is how levelled the discussion was, it feels how a debate should aspire to be, questions, thought out answers (I wished more people including myself paused more often before answering), actively listening, and open conclusions from both sides.
This was such a great conversation, watched the whole thing and didn't even feel like it was an hour long
I didn’t how much I needed this podcast because in most cases I see videos with Bryan Johnson as rich man with some cool slash weird gimmick while this podcast actually deeply shows he is thoughts process rather simply saying I want live longer.
G, doctor Mike is on fire 🔥🔥🔥 I absolutely loved that interview, what a great questions, finally someone is challenging Bryan believes. I also applaud Bryan’s ability to explain his prospective without being too defensive or aggressive. Great conversation!
I'd love you to interview the Blue Zone's guy, Dan Beuttner. He's a natgeo explorer who researches centurions and "Blue Zones" places around the world and studies the commonalities in populations where most live healthy into 90s and 100s. He really pushes more specifics when it comes to diet and exercise etc. There's a Netflix doc series about it and he has several books. I read them and they seem like sound science, and he's backed by NatGEO. But I'd love to see him chat with Dr. Mike!!
Damnnn you got a like!!
You need to research the fraud associated with the blue zones bs...
I've watched many interviews with Bryan Johnson. This, by far, is the best interview. You really listened intensely to Bryan without making it about you. Excellent interview. I'm subscribing!
I love how respectful and calm these podcasts are, especially if really great questions and insightful answers given. Even if everything is based on opinion, it's still so interesting to listen.
This was such a thought provoking conversations. It is interesting to see from multiple perspectives the idea of death versus quality of life as well as views towards death. You did such a great job Dr.Mike with such great question. It was a wonderful podcast episode!
what an absolute masterclass on both ends. The right questions were asked by Dr.Mike and Bryan was open. Both discussing the subject calmly while putting their opinions/experiences on the table in a transparent way, even if they colide at times. Another great interview from Dr.Mike
Thanks for going through this conversation with an open heart and without judgement. That’s so rare, especially in social media.
YESSS I'VE BEEN LITERALLY WAITING FOR A VIDEO ON THIS. I was sad when I was looking around for an interview and couldn't find one with you and him. SO excited to watch this. Thank you!
Happy to see this topic get more mainstream coverage!! Bryan is not the only one with this goal, there are many scientists working towards it. Hopeful this will be big in the future.
Finally someone who can keep up with Bryan
He's not "obsessed"... He could give sh!t all to the rest of the world with the kind of money he has, instead he's doing more for the human race than the science community together ever could, or would. However he's going about it is his prerogative, and he's doing so well I'm truly happy for him.
Dr. Mike is my favorite content creator. I have enjoyed every video I have seen by him. He brings up topics that make you think and increase your medical knowledge. I love how respectful he is to everyone. And I love how he reminds me of my baby brother. They have similar features, so he feels like another baby brother to me who is teaching me instead of the other way around. Keeping doing what you do, Dr Mike.