I just met a guy who had been shot with a .22 SHORT at a range of about ~50 yards. The round went in his shoulder and lodged against his spine. My grandfather used to hunt deer with a .22 LR. I am just not a believer that any gun here, at short range is going to be inadequate to ward off an attacker. Ive watched a lot of self defense/gun videos and what I find is that once the first round goes off the bad guys flee, with passion. I own a couple of 32, 25 and 22's. What I like about them is they don't kick, I can retrain on the target quickly, much better than with a 9mm. Would I prefer a small caliber in a gunfight, nope, but ease of carry, low recoil tip the scales for me for edc.
I agree with you in purely self-defense against a mugger. I used to carry a 22 or 380 in summer. However, after the riots, "free zones," and perps with rifles, I traded up and mostly carry 45 or 357 Sig. I think I'm reasonably equipped as I can be if it's me against multiple perps, long-distance shots, or a nut with a rifle. So my thinking changed with all the crazies today.
I carry the 380 version of the P32. Been carrying it for about a decade. It's not pretty, and it doesn't wow you in any way. What it does do is work without fail. Never had one issue so it's still in my back pocket
I was an EMT in CA, and an EMS First Responder in NM. Same training, different title. Every EMT I know carries, because they have much experience with wonderful people, None of them carry anything less than a .38 Special or 9MM with +P loads, because they know what works
Here in NC.. All the medics I work with carry. NCOEMS. Finally has agreed to allow it if your service allows concealed carry with permit. I know medics who even carry when going into the prisons. Me.. I carry a Taurus .380 ankle holster, karambit blade in pocket. Stay safe and watch your six.
If you carry a .22, you might not put him down before he ends you. A gunfight is not like plinking at the range. Both people are usually moving. Hits are where they are. You might have to get through bones like shoulders. 9mm is a minimum.
Ruger LCP Max is 15oz fully loaded with 13rds of 380, and it comes with factory night sights. It is in a class of 1. I have uploaded videos shooting 8x12 steel out to 20yds with mine. Also, many types of 380 hollowpoints expand from 380 pocket pistols. There are about a gillion gel tests on youtube showing this.
Have to agree. Biggest limit on the 380 guns was low capacity and horrible sights. But the ruger lcp max is a game changer. Im a hellcat guy but i only carried about 60% of the time as IWB with a light t shirt still prints a bit. But with the ruger if im not at work its in my pocket.
The chief problem I have with this article is that it leads with a picture of a pistol that is not reviewed and not in the article. I’m sure that it’s because it looks cool, and is recognizable. However, you don’t lead with a picture of a weapon that is not featured in the article.
My statement on 22LR I CC a family inherited Belgium Browning target 7" -- I can put 4 - 5 on close pattern center mass in 2.5 secs. I credit it to " time on target" due to far less sight re -acquisition from recoil and the guns natural balance to return to the original sighting position. In my book that 88 - 100 calibers worth !
I carry my Seecamp .32 in my pocket around the house, outside checking the mail, the garbage, doing lawn work, etc. But when I head out of the house, I carry my SIG P365 with a 12 round mag. Bedside, something bigger and badder, since concealment is not a factor. Evaluate the risk and hassle factors of each situation and choose what works for you.
Seecamp only runs hollow points. Plus it’s a heavier gun than the Ruger LCP Max 380. Plus less capacity. The seecamp is a high quality cool looking pistol, but it just doesn’t measure up to the newer 380s like the Max.
@@gene2049 I've had success in shooting PMC Bronze 60 grain JHPs in my Seecamp. No doubt a compact 380 is far more potent, but they are also a good bit larger. I say carry the biggest gun you are comfortable with, given the particular situation you're in. If the SHTF, you'll never wish you had a smaller caliber gun with less ammo, lol.
I have a KelTec P3AT .380. It like its little brother that you covered is easily concealed. It doesn't fit my hand well, and is snappy to shoot. The slide isn't easy to manipulate. The pistol is super concealable, even in the Texas heat. I don't like it much but I serves a purpose that my other guns cannot.
If you buy the right jeans you can pocket carry most small guns. I have kydex holsters for pocket carrying my S.A. Hellcat, SIG P290RS 9mm, Ruger LCR 38 & Beretta Pico. On the other hand women's jeans have tiny pockets. My wife can barely get her keys in her front jeans pockets.
In the warmer weather I carry a Bulgarian 9mm Makarov, 7+1. In colder weather I wear a Ruger Security 9 compact. The Makarov will drop into a pocket or boot with a soft shell holster. The Ruger likes a spine carry or appendix carry (barely). But I usually use a cross draw hip holster and a high cap magazine.
A buddy was shot w/a .32 while on duty in the mid ‘60s. He was in uniform, riding his assigned motor and his uniform leather jacket stopped the bullet. It did knock him off the motorcycle, bruised his chest but didn’t penetrate the skin. He told me it hurt but considers himself VERY lucky.
@@Valorius that's pure BS! There is thousands and thousands of great reviews on the P32. You must be a Keltec hater? The Bryco is not drop safe, has cheap magazines! The P32 uses MecGar magazines for God sake!...and is actually made of 4140 real steel.
@@markedman3990 P32s are flat out junk, there are god knows how many comments and reviews online of people saying the exact same thing. if you want a good keltec, buy a Ruger LCP. I had a Kel Tec P32 for about a month, it was without a doubt the cheapest piece of crap Ive ever owned.
I've shot the P32 and I just can't see carrying this over the 380 P3AT/LCP. Yes, the 380 is snappier but I have no trouble putting rounds on target with it. As a man I find it easy to deep conceal a Hellcat or P365 but with tighter fitting clothing and particularly for women these mouse guns are still relevant.
@@nelsonr1467 love my p32 even though I don’t like shooting it…trigger bite. Fortunately in my many years of concealed carry I have not needed to fire any of my guns and so 32 cal has done the job and the super small and light weight has been easy to take anywhere, anytime. 7 plus 1 rounds of 32 in my world is adequate, Patton carried a 32, good enough for me!
I own a 938, nice gun but be aware it took around 400 rounds before it had any functional reliability. I contacted Sig about it and was told that was normal. Conversation broke off when I suggested that the weapon should have come with a coupon for the rounds that were required to make it reliable. I understand that firing those rounds in practice was a good thing but hand racking every 2nd or 3rd round was very frustrating.
Bingo! It's my choice and I love it. Added magguts +1, 7+1, pinky extension, front sight painted white, Hogue grip sleeve. So easy to shoot. 100% reliable. Carried in an Alabama kydex pocket holster.
I've walked into non-permissive environments before while carrying. NEVER have I had a question--even from LEOs that were present. Of course, I have a SIGSauer P238 and a KelTec P32 (I'll take the extra round over the larger round) and have been in those situations with both.
Great list own the lcp max have a Mcarbo trigger in it cause I didn’t like the one it came with it has a houge slip on grip and it’s a pleasure to shoot thanks
I own the best 2 pocket pistols I have ever seen. I wear properly fitting Jeans and t shirts. Literally no place to conceal anything. I have a Ruger LCP .380 (original version) and a Taurus TCP 738 .380. Both these pistols fit in my Bulldog cell phone style holster, which I carry out in the open, on my belt. It has never attracted any attention, and allows easy access to the pistols. Nothing even 1/8" larger in any dimension will fit in this holster. Both pistols weight less that 10 ounces fully loaded, and have real one piece triggers, not the junk riveted together triggers so common on newer pistols. I have no problem handling .380 in such a small gun. KelTecs are junk, period. I would never trust my life to one. Same with rimfire ammo. Just not reliable enough.
They say, "concealed"? My idea of the concealed concept, is one that doesn't snag on clothing, is concealable anywhere, in most environments. The Walther PPk, the Beretta Tomcat, some of the smaller pistols. I guess, maybe im old fashioned, but some of these guns, look like just smaller versions of their bigger, blockier brothers.
@@raympndlandareastapkp7616 you have to unfold it and during a stress situation maybe you’re not able to fold or take more time, i rather have a regular pistol that you just draw it and shoot
I have more handguns chambered in 22 LR than in any other round. I have revolvers, target pistols, even a NAA 5 shot black widow pocket revolver. I would not advise ANY rimfire as a self defense round simply because rimfires are more prone to failure to fire than centerfire rounds. In a pistol, that means a jam which you must manually eject before you can pull the trigger again. Yes, with a revolver, you can just pull the trigger again. How far can a bad guy with a knife close the distance to you while you realize you have a misfire and pull the trigger again? Why take that chance? I would never ever opt for the lite rack LCP in 22 LR. I have the regular LCP2 in .380. It's stupid reliable. Yes, it's snappy, but with lots of practice, you can become competent with it. It is not hard to rack. I don't bother with hollow points. I use fmj ball ammo which as is, will make the same size hole in someone's body as a 9mm.
Just started watching, but a sig p365 can be used as a pocket pistol. They even made the SAS version which is the same exact size specifically for pocket carry
A "less permissible surrounding" Translation: rights are only for me not you. I get to take my gun anywhere and screw your right as a property owner. Anyone who thinks like that should not be allowed a weapon
Bottom line is carry what YOU are comfortable with...what YOU can shoot...what YOU decide on...but carry...every day ..all the time ...we all have opinions but calling guns, trash and junk and blah blah blah.....you should probably just focus on your profession and leave your professional opinions to your profession
this person doesn't know what their talking about! I have a Ruger LCP max and I can't think of a better small pistol. Way better than any 22 or 22 mag. lol and you don't think 10 of 380 is better than 10 22 long rifle 🤣
I just met a guy who had been shot with a .22 SHORT at a range of about ~50 yards. The round went in his shoulder and lodged against his spine. My grandfather used to hunt deer with a .22 LR. I am just not a believer that any gun here, at short range is going to be inadequate to ward off an attacker. Ive watched a lot of self defense/gun videos and what I find is that once the first round goes off the bad guys flee, with passion. I own a couple of 32, 25 and 22's. What I like about them is they don't kick, I can retrain on the target quickly, much better than with a 9mm. Would I prefer a small caliber in a gunfight, nope, but ease of carry, low recoil tip the scales for me for edc.
I agree with you in purely self-defense against a mugger. I used to carry a 22 or 380 in summer.
However, after the riots, "free zones," and perps with rifles, I traded up and mostly carry 45 or 357 Sig.
I think I'm reasonably equipped as I can be if it's me against multiple perps, long-distance shots, or a nut with a rifle.
So my thinking changed with all the crazies today.
I carry the 380 version of the P32. Been carrying it for about a decade. It's not pretty, and it doesn't wow you in any way. What it does do is work without fail. Never had one issue so it's still in my back pocket
The P3AT.
As you said, not pretty.
But if you're using it, it works, and you wouldn't want to be on the receiving end.
I was an EMT in CA, and an EMS First Responder in NM. Same training, different title.
Every EMT I know carries, because they have much experience with wonderful people,
None of them carry anything less than a .38 Special or 9MM with +P loads, because they know what works
Here in NC.. All the medics I work with carry. NCOEMS. Finally has agreed to allow it if your service allows concealed carry with permit.
I know medics who even carry when going into the prisons.
Me.. I carry a Taurus .380 ankle holster, karambit blade in pocket.
Stay safe and watch your six.
...Interesting observation.
Thank you.
I don't are about the caliber i care about hitting what im aiming at!
agree.....i prefer .22...it's almost recoiless.thus,very accurate.
If you carry .44 magnum u r like not going to hit ur target..
Exactly
If you carry a .22, you might not put him down before he ends you. A gunfight is not like plinking at the range. Both people are usually moving. Hits are where they are. You might have to get through bones like shoulders. 9mm is a minimum.
I carry the Beretta Tomcat. Small, solid, very accurate, smooth shooter.
I've got a Bobcat! Shot placement is key.
I have the .22LR Bobcat. It’s pretty accurate out to 3 yards.
32 acp is criminally underrated. It makes holes.
I pocket carry a Phoenix Arms HP22. Hundreds of rounds thru it with zero hiccups. It shoots anything I run thru it. Less than $200.00 brand new.
Ruger LCP Max is 15oz fully loaded with 13rds of 380, and it comes with factory night sights. It is in a class of 1.
I have uploaded videos shooting 8x12 steel out to 20yds with mine.
Also, many types of 380 hollowpoints expand from 380 pocket pistols. There are about a gillion gel tests on youtube showing this.
It’s by far the best. No other small pistol even close.
Have to agree. Biggest limit on the 380 guns was low capacity and horrible sights. But the ruger lcp max is a game changer. Im a hellcat guy but i only carried about 60% of the time as IWB with a light t shirt still prints a bit. But with the ruger if im not at work its in my pocket.
It comes in second place to the 84BB
@@mafirearmsafety I have an 84BB and love it, but it’s not a pocket gun.
Thanks. Adding it to my list to check out. I might just buy one even if it doesn’t become my daily carry. You can’t go wrong with an extra gun.
The chief problem I have with this article is that it leads with a picture of a pistol that is not reviewed and not in the article. I’m sure that it’s because it looks cool, and is recognizable. However, you don’t lead with a picture of a weapon that is not featured in the article.
Colt Mustang in .380. Operates like the 1911, carries 6+1 and is deep conceal as you get. I carry it when I cannot carry my Kimber Raptor II.
My statement on 22LR
I CC a family inherited Belgium Browning target 7" -- I can put 4 - 5 on close pattern center mass in 2.5 secs.
I credit it to " time on target" due to far less sight re -acquisition from recoil and the guns natural balance to
return to the original sighting position. In my book that 88 - 100 calibers worth !
Shot placement > bullet specs
A lightweight .38 snubnose is a great pocket gun.
I carry my Seecamp .32 in my pocket around the house, outside checking the mail, the garbage, doing lawn work, etc. But when I head out of the house, I carry my SIG P365 with a 12 round mag. Bedside, something bigger and badder, since concealment is not a factor. Evaluate the risk and hassle factors of each situation and choose what works for you.
Seecamp only runs hollow points. Plus it’s a heavier gun than the Ruger LCP Max 380. Plus less capacity. The seecamp is a high quality cool looking pistol, but it just doesn’t measure up to the newer 380s like the Max.
@@gene2049 I've had success in shooting PMC Bronze 60 grain JHPs in my Seecamp. No doubt a compact 380 is far more potent, but they are also a good bit larger. I say carry the biggest gun you are comfortable with, given the particular situation you're in. If the SHTF, you'll never wish you had a smaller caliber gun with less ammo, lol.
Ruger LCP with a Crimson Trace laser sight in a homemade thin leather holster, carried in a back pocket as a "second wallet." It's never been noticed.
When I carry a small 380 I carry ARX bullets instead of HPs. They run great and work well for self defense.
I have a KelTec P3AT .380. It like its little brother that you covered is easily concealed. It doesn't fit my hand well, and is snappy to shoot. The slide isn't easy to manipulate. The pistol is super concealable, even in the Texas heat. I don't like it much but I serves a purpose that my other guns cannot.
So, the PPK on the main shot is not even listed in the video. Why do these videos do it?
If you buy the right jeans you can pocket carry most small guns. I have kydex holsters for pocket carrying my S.A. Hellcat, SIG P290RS 9mm, Ruger LCR 38 & Beretta Pico. On the other hand women's jeans have tiny pockets. My wife can barely get her keys in her front jeans pockets.
They can carry in their purse.
In the warmer weather I carry a Bulgarian 9mm Makarov, 7+1. In colder weather I wear a Ruger Security 9 compact. The Makarov will drop into a pocket or boot with a soft shell holster. The Ruger likes a spine carry or appendix carry (barely). But I usually use a cross draw hip holster and a high cap magazine.
A buddy was shot w/a .32 while on duty in the mid ‘60s. He was in uniform, riding his assigned motor and his uniform leather jacket stopped the bullet. It did knock him off the motorcycle, bruised his chest but didn’t penetrate the skin. He told me it hurt but considers himself VERY lucky.
The 84BB, love it.
I actually know cops that carry that Kel-tec .32acp as a deep back-up ankle gun. It's a great very reliable little gun.
I had one, it was pure junk. Literally worse build quality than a Bryco 380.
@@Valorius that's pure BS! There is thousands and thousands of great reviews on the P32. You must be a Keltec hater? The Bryco is not drop safe, has cheap magazines! The P32 uses MecGar magazines for God sake!...and is actually made of 4140 real steel.
@@markedman3990 P32s are flat out junk, there are god knows how many comments and reviews online of people saying the exact same thing.
if you want a good keltec, buy a Ruger LCP.
I had a Kel Tec P32 for about a month, it was without a doubt the cheapest piece of crap Ive ever owned.
you got a lemon
I've shot the P32 and I just can't see carrying this over the 380 P3AT/LCP. Yes, the 380 is snappier but I have no trouble putting rounds on target with it. As a man I find it easy to deep conceal a Hellcat or P365 but with tighter fitting clothing and particularly for women these mouse guns are still relevant.
What's wrong with the p32
@nelsonr1467 I find 32 lacking in performance but that isn't the gun's fault A 380 is about as small as I'm comfortable with.
@@nelsonr1467 love my p32 even though I don’t like shooting it…trigger bite. Fortunately in my many years of concealed carry I have not needed to fire any of my guns and so 32 cal has done the job and the super small and light weight has been easy to take anywhere, anytime. 7 plus 1 rounds of 32 in my world is adequate, Patton carried a 32, good enough for me!
My FEG SMC-918 works as my pocket rocket. Also have a Ruger LCP (.380) in a wallet pocket holster. Both are decent.
A revolver is always my first choice.
I enjoy the Ruger LC9 s pro. Small, powerful, accurate. No external safety. Get a couple extra mags.
I think SW Bodyguard 380 should be on this list
Sig P938 is the only one I trust.
I own a 938, nice gun but be aware it took around 400 rounds before it had any functional reliability. I contacted Sig about it and was told that was normal. Conversation broke off when I suggested that the weapon should have come with a coupon for the rounds that were required to make it reliable. I understand that firing those rounds in practice was a good thing but hand racking every 2nd or 3rd round was very frustrating.
I’m likin’ my LCP Max with the bigger mag.. Fits perfect in the front pocket of a shoulder bag.. Shoots a bit low, though..
Ruger LCP Max and the LCP2 are the top of my list.....
Interesting review and funny too! Like FMJ bullets just poke holes! Yeah, they are really safe!!! Hilarious!
Where is S&W Bodyguard in this list? One of the best and reliable .380ACP mouse guns.
Bingo! It's my choice and I love it.
Added magguts +1, 7+1, pinky extension, front sight painted white, Hogue grip sleeve. So easy to shoot. 100% reliable. Carried in an Alabama kydex pocket holster.
I've walked into non-permissive environments before while carrying. NEVER have I had a question--even from LEOs that were present. Of course, I have a SIGSauer P238 and a KelTec P32 (I'll take the extra round over the larger round) and have been in those situations with both.
Great list own the lcp max have a Mcarbo trigger in it cause I didn’t like the one it came with it has a houge slip on grip and it’s a pleasure to shoot thanks
I own the best 2 pocket pistols I have ever seen. I wear properly fitting Jeans and t shirts. Literally no place to conceal anything. I have a Ruger LCP .380 (original version) and a Taurus TCP 738 .380. Both these pistols fit in my Bulldog cell phone style holster, which I carry out in the open, on my belt. It has never attracted any attention, and allows easy access to the pistols. Nothing even 1/8" larger in any dimension will fit in this holster. Both pistols weight less that 10 ounces fully loaded, and have real one piece triggers, not the junk riveted together triggers so common on newer pistols. I have no problem handling .380 in such a small gun. KelTecs are junk, period. I would never trust my life to one. Same with rimfire ammo. Just not reliable enough.
I carry a S&W 638 in 38 sp. in a pocket holster. Way better than 32s and 22s
I like the Springfield XD MOD2 Compact 45 & 9mm. Fits perfectly in cargo pants in a Mikes Pocket Holster.
Also the SW Bodyguard in 380 with a laser is an outstanding. However a 45 give you the most effective response to any defense situation.
My EDC is a Beretta Pico .380, and my BUG is a Beretta Pico .380.
I use a LCP II lr for my boot holster backup and its great
You show a semi-auto pistol on the lead-in photo of this talk. Wooden handles. Gorgeous gun. Which make and model please?
FJB.
Tomcat all the way!
Question what about the Bersa 380 Thunder plus that's shoot 15Rds
Number one is the back up, for the back up, of the back up.
The g42 where he at omg.
You feature a switch but not a mention of NAA 22/22WM. For my money a superior 5 shot sa revolver in either caliber.
the closest that any of my light ( small ) handtools come to this is 1' my Walter ppk , 2' my copp-357' , my 410' derringer
The Kel-tec p32 is far from easy to find and is sold out everywhere
Agreed. Even on gunbroker it's hard to find. Looks like people are hanging on to them
Kimber micro 9mm for me.
Sig 365xl ftw
They say, "concealed"? My idea of the concealed concept, is one that doesn't snag on clothing, is concealable anywhere, in most environments. The Walther PPk, the Beretta Tomcat, some of the smaller pistols. I guess, maybe im old fashioned, but some of these guns, look like just smaller versions of their bigger, blockier brothers.
I'll give you $50 for that kel-tec.
$300 for what??. Really.
number one a fucking switch revolver are you serious ? i rather carry a bag of sand is more effective a longer range lol
Why does relover? Do you think relover is bad and don't work?
@@raympndlandareastapkp7616 you have to unfold it and during a stress situation maybe you’re not able to fold or take more time, i rather have a regular pistol that you just draw it and shoot
I have more handguns chambered in 22 LR than in any other round. I have revolvers, target pistols, even a NAA 5 shot black widow pocket revolver. I would not advise ANY rimfire as a self defense round simply because rimfires are more prone to failure to fire than centerfire rounds. In a pistol, that means a jam which you must manually eject before you can pull the trigger again. Yes, with a revolver, you can just pull the trigger again. How far can a bad guy with a knife close the distance to you while you realize you have a misfire and pull the trigger again? Why take that chance? I would never ever opt for the lite rack LCP in 22 LR. I have the regular LCP2 in .380. It's stupid reliable. Yes, it's snappy, but with lots of practice, you can become competent with it. It is not hard to rack. I don't bother with hollow points. I use fmj ball ammo which as is, will make the same size hole in someone's body as a 9mm.
A quick look on Gunbroker says the Kel-tec p32 can be had for under $500, not $300.
The gun in the thumbnail is a walther ppk i think
I like numbers 7
Just started watching, but a sig p365 can be used as a pocket pistol. They even made the SAS version which is the same exact size specifically for pocket carry
The p365 is fine for winter carry. For the summer try out the p938
I like to know
the trigger pull
weight, too.
TY PP
Any pistol I have to flip the safety UP is a no go. That's a lot of Euro guns.
A "less permissible surrounding" Translation: rights are only for me not you. I get to take my gun anywhere and screw your right as a property owner. Anyone who thinks like that should not be allowed a weapon
You didn't show the gun that was on the cover
I wonder why the weapon shown ( ppk with Novak sights) was not part of this video? Click bait I suppose.
Where is the walther? The ppk and the ppk/s are superior to all the plastic junk on this list. How about the bersa? This list sucks.
太棒了！
Must have it All 😅
45/70 Derringer 😂
You didn't even show gun you have on thumb nail or tell what kind of gun it is that's the reason I watched video
Why don't you have the click bait gun on here? or is it just that, click bait?
Bottom line is carry what YOU are comfortable with...what YOU can shoot...what YOU decide on...but carry...every day ..all the time ...we all have opinions but calling guns, trash and junk and blah blah blah.....you should probably just focus on your profession and leave your professional opinions to your profession
The attractive gun pictured on the intro page was not featured in the video. It wasted 11 minutes of my time !!!
Kahr CM40
not a deep concealment gun by any stretch of the imagination unless you are the size of LeBron James.
The size is irrelevant. EVERY FIREARM SHOULD BE IN A HOLSTER PERIOD. NOT IN A POCKET.
Who are rhe people watching this list james bond?
Infelizmente, aqui no Brasil, o atual presidente está dificultando o acesso às armas para os cidadãos.
No thanks
"Relieved of your primary carrying piece". What kind of mumbo, jumbo is this? You mean jacked up or robbed right? Too much PC speak.
CoLt Mustang .380
this person doesn't know what their talking about! I have a Ruger LCP max and I can't think of a better small pistol. Way better than any 22 or 22 mag. lol and you don't think 10 of 380 is better than 10 22 long rifle 🤣
this is a scam
where is the S@W bodyguard?