Helios 44M-4 vs Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston 50mm | Vintage lens comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2020
  • A quick comparison between two vintage M42 lenses. The Helios, originally a Russian copy of the Carl Zeiss Biotar, but nowadays a bit of a 'hipster lens' known for its 'swirley bokeh'. Versus the classic East German Oreston 50mm (Zebra version) which later evolved into a Pentacon auto 50 mm f/1.8
    Which lens do you prefer?
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  • @elfynjones2554
    @elfynjones2554 Год назад +6

    Really useful comparison thank you. I am blown away by the Oreston, to my eye it appears sharper than the Helios, has more contrast and has the bokeh I am comfortable with. The bonus is the close focusing distance 😊 Thanks again👍

    • @ohjajohh
      @ohjajohh  Год назад +3

      Thanks for watching. The Oreston is really a bit of an underrated vintage lens I think. You can also find it as a m42 "Pentacon 50mm" Those are later versions, but perform the same.

  • @selkiemaine
    @selkiemaine 7 месяцев назад +3

    I'm going with the Oreston. I just find the bokeh more pleasing, though it seems to have worse flare resistance at night. Both are very nice.

  • @MarkHoltze
    @MarkHoltze 3 года назад +14

    Good comparison mate! Very effective at showcasing the differences!!!

    • @ohjajohh
      @ohjajohh  3 года назад

      Thanks, maybe one day I'll try to mod my Helios into that 'Anamorfake' :)

  • @onsnovac5634
    @onsnovac5634 2 года назад +3

    Hello!
    I have both of these lenses, both SUPEER! My HELIOS is a little bit sharper wide open, but the Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston is my choice!
    Both lenses are very atmospheric wide open, but the Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston gives more honest COLOR, and works softer with volumes. I like this better. And, in general, in general, both lenses are very good, very desirable!
    Good luck to all!
    Good pictures and enjoy shooting!

  • @northstar1950
    @northstar1950 3 года назад +6

    I have both of these lenses and looking at your photos I think I prefer the Helios.

  • @MarcLerchs
    @MarcLerchs 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thank You for sharing. I'm in vintage lenses, and this test is awesome. I have both, my favorite is the Preston ;) (night pics in your vid are amazing, stars on the bulbs are so sharp on the Preston. I like also the "hexagonal" bokeh on the flowers... :) Greetings from Belgium.

  • @dhanil7470
    @dhanil7470 8 месяцев назад +2

    I love both 🙂However I woudn't use them to shoot every sublect, to me it would be Helios for portraits and Oreston for versatile photo ( street, nature and so on)

  • @CoutoCameraCompany
    @CoutoCameraCompany 3 года назад +4

    They both have such nice characteristics... very well done! Excellent footage.

  • @michaelpressey4715
    @michaelpressey4715 2 года назад +2

    Really like the method and delivery of comparison, have a couple of Helios that I am happy with seriously considering a Meyer Optik Gorlitz. Thank You for review.

    • @ohjajohh
      @ohjajohh  2 года назад

      Thanks for your comment. Yes the Oreston by Meyer Optik Gorlitz is definitely worth it.

  • @FlashMediaStudiosTV
    @FlashMediaStudiosTV 3 года назад +2

    Nice comparison- I find the bokeh from the Helios sometimes distracting . Both outstanding lens . Great shots .🦾🦾

  • @jsgg7735
    @jsgg7735 2 года назад +1

    Chills! This enjoyable scenes! Great effort!! I like! Great video! Smooth timing! Watched till the end i did.

  • @kevmoiz1718
    @kevmoiz1718 2 года назад +2

    "nice vid, its the Meyer for me because of the closer focusing!" cheers

    • @ohjajohh
      @ohjajohh  2 года назад

      Thanks, yes the short focusing distance of the Meyer is really great!

  • @Ken-pc4jj
    @Ken-pc4jj 11 месяцев назад +1

    I liked your video.To be fair, I don't own a Helios but I think most Helios' are currently over priced for what you get. I have a 55mm f1.8 Super-Takumar that can produce swirl like the Helios, based on pictures I have seen. It cost me $20, and a little effort to clean it and tighten some loose screws. It also produces wonderful colors. My Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston 50mm F1.8 was my first vintage lens purchase. Currently I have 5 great vintage lenses. However, my Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston is still my favorite. When paired with a focusing helicoid adapter, the close focus distance makes it a great macro lens as well.

    • @ohjajohh
      @ohjajohh  11 месяцев назад

      I agree with everything you said. The Orestion is a great and underrated lens. Especially the short focussing distance, that's really rare for a 50mm that old.

  • @ianharper6015
    @ianharper6015 3 года назад +2

    Hi there. Thanks for a useful video. I found it quite interesting that the Oreston had hexagonal bokeh at f2.8 but the Helios was still roundish.

    • @ohjajohh
      @ohjajohh  3 года назад

      Thanks for your comment. Unless it's wide open, the Oreston will always show hexagonal bokeh because of the way the 6 aperture blades are designed :)

  • @onsnovac5634
    @onsnovac5634 2 года назад +6

    Всем привет!
    У меня есть оба эти объектива, оба SUPEER! Мой HELIOS чуть чуть чуть резче на открытой диафрагме, но Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston мой выбор!
    Оба объектива очень атмосферные на открытой диафрагме, но Meyer-Optik Görlitz Oreston даёт более честный COLOR, и мягче работает с объёмами. Это мне больше нравится. А, в целом, в общем оба объектива очень хороши, очень желанны!
    Всем удачи!
    Хороших снимков и удовольствия от съёмки!

  • @petersnow389
    @petersnow389 3 года назад +3

    I feel that the Oreston is superior, it has far better contrast, and the star bursts on the rigging of the yacht, taken at night are better defined.

  • @wutangpaul
    @wutangpaul 7 дней назад

    In the first shot, the Oreston appears to be much, much darker. Is that because of cloud in the background?

  • @GrumpyTim
    @GrumpyTim 3 года назад +3

    Hi Ohjajohh, nice lens comparison video - I have both of those lenses - for still photography I think I prefer the Oreston - I've got some cracking shots out of mine. I think the Helios looks a little more cinematic for video use but that's just my personal opinion. Like you, if I only had to keep one it would be the Oreston purely because of that great close focus ability. In fairness to the Helios, I haven't really used it that much - I have a half shot video using it that I really need to finish one of these days!!
    I've got a Helios 44-2 on order (found it cheap, attached to an unpopular camera on EBAY) so it'll be interesting to see how that compares to the technically superior 44M-4.

    • @ohjajohh
      @ohjajohh  3 года назад +1

      Hi Tim, thnx for your comment. I agree that the Oreston is better for photography, it also tends to have warmer colours which is something I like in pictures.
      I would probably like my Helios more if the focus ring wasn't so stiff. I've checked some videos on how to lube it myself, but as I got two left hands I don't want to take the risk...

    • @GrumpyTim
      @GrumpyTim 3 года назад +1

      @@ohjajohh Sometimes it's really easy to free up a tight focusing ring without dismantling the lens but it does vary and it depends on which part of the helicoid is running tight. If I ever need to strip down a 44M-4 I'll see how easy it is and let you know.

  • @matheusduboc
    @matheusduboc Год назад +1

    Such nice video!! Thx a lot. What about the Oreston Focus ring?

    • @ohjajohh
      @ohjajohh  Год назад

      The focus ring of the Oreston in this video is quite smooth. But in the last year I picked up some more Oreston lenses, and those are a bit stiff. So you need to be a bit lucky when you buy one I guess

  • @utube321piotr
    @utube321piotr 2 года назад +1

    You need to differentiate between mfg. locations of the same model lens, since it was shown that quality variations in 44M-4 are significant. Valdaj factory being quite bad.

  • @KoyaSRB
    @KoyaSRB Год назад +1

    Good job. :)

  • @FlySoul
    @FlySoul 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for sharing. Very good video. Keep it up. See you for the next video my friend

  • @adamjames5281
    @adamjames5281 2 года назад +1

    I was disappointed that you did not compare them both wide open. I was curious to compare their swirly bokeh potential. I already know the Helios but the Meyer optik is new to me..

  • @ikelah
    @ikelah 2 года назад

    Oreston

  • @Renegade1127
    @Renegade1127 Год назад

    Your dates are not quite correct for the Oreston.
    Meyer made/sold the Oreston up until 1971, Pentacon took over in 1972 and dropped the Oreston name.

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    @buecg7762 2 года назад

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  • @alinazang6651
    @alinazang6651 3 года назад +2

    Isn't the oreston the same as the pentacon?

    • @ohjajohh
      @ohjajohh  3 года назад +1

      Yes it is indeed. Later versions of the Pentacon have a slightly different color because of the multicoating, but optically they are 99% the same.