Meyer Gorlitz Trioplan 50mm F/2.9 Essential Review
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2017
- My extensive review of the mythical Meyer Gorlitz Trioplan 50mm 2.9. Ive had this lens almost 2 yrs and resisted reviewing it because I just didnt know where to begin, theres so much to talk about, from its bubble bokeh, to Meyer Optiks history to the lenses quirks and limitations. it is a lens that takes skill and knowledge to get the most out of. The Meyer Optik company name has since been revived and new lenses are being made again in Germany. One thing I want people to understand is this lens is capable of beautiful photographs as you will see in my review and in my Flickr album.
Purchase a Trioplan here on Ebay:
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Gear I used to shoot this review.
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Such a good reviewer, 18 minutes went by like nothing. Instead of zooming 400% into the image, analyzing edge sharpness, this review actually has substance! This guy gets to what really matters
Thank you much. Yes I think this is the longest review I've every done. Thanks for stopping by. Respect
That zooming shit always annoys me. Like no shit those images are going to look bad, you are zoomed 200 percent in.
Ray! Such a great review man! This lens is fantastic! Really great work! Thanks SO much for sharing it with me!
Mark Holtze thanks Mark, yo you see the amount of images I shot and locations I travel to? I don't know if I have the guts to do it extensive review like that again. I'm glad you benefited man I dedicate it to you LOL
It felt like a documentary on the lens. I love it. There's so much backstory and info that goes into these pieces of glass. A big part of that peaks my interest as well.
Mark Holtze yeah man when I first started my channel I was in such a rush to shoot and edit and get it done and I left out so much interesting details. I watched several of your videos today and I can see you take your time to craft the final video as well. Your b-roll is very legit too
Thank you for great infos and review.. As I understand that lens gives everything in focus with f4 aperture?
Dude I came across this by accident but your really good at this very thoughtful and you can tell passionate about photography I’m definitely a subscriber now
Dion Gross What's up Dion? Yeah man thanks. I'm glad you stumbled on it because not too many people know about this particular lens. It's strange, I use my modern lenses for shooting these videos and product photography but when I'm trying to do something creative I never use the modern lenses. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Respect
Yeah I’m amateur photographer that really got tired quickly of how sharp everything has to be because I fell in love with Norman Rockwell pics as a kid and I wanted to do dreamy creamy creative stuff and now I know I need to go vintage lense and not post pro. Software. Thanks again
One of the best reviews I saw so far about this exciting lens. Thank you very much!
Hello thanks so much, honestly I couldn't find one r view of it so I decided to make this. Glad it helped
Simply outstanding presentation and informative bro, KEEP DOING QUALITY LENS REVIEWS !!!
Mohammad Uddin hello Muhammad how are you? I really appreciate that I think the only thing holding me back is having enough interesting lenses to highlight and of course the time it takes to shoot and edit. I'm glad this was helpful. respect
amazing review! super thorough and helpful, especially the tutorial a few minutes in. I bought the lens and I’m loving it! thank you!
thank you Jay, feel free to share results
I love these reviews! I've bought 2 vintage lenses since watching, and I'm re-discovering my love of photography.
Love the images you posted. Love the character of this lens!
Thanks so much Mia. It's my most exotic lens. And with only 3 elements it make us realize modern lenses with many elements degrade natural character
Just looked at this and it's the best review I've ever read on Vintage lenses very informative on the best way to these types of lenses ........... thanks a lot
Great review! I usually hate them and suffer through some just to get some info, but you're amazing at this. Subscribed and hope to see more. Brilliant!
Very nice review Ray. Always good to see different lenses and how they work on modern cameras.
Howie Mudge Photography Howie thanks for taking the time to check it out and comment. Trust me I have a few other lenses waiting in the wings to review like that Carl Zeiss and a voigtlander.I might do the Jupiter but it's not too spectacular. It's important that these lenses be kept alive because they're not making lenses with beautiful imperfections anymore. Peace
Great video Ray, one of the better ones on UT, and I have been dwelling on this subject for a while. All the best.
Great review! You did your research and you really explain what bokeh is in terms that make sense. Not just jargon.
Hello thanks so much. Good looking out bro
Thank you for that really informative review. I just fell in love with vintage lenses, so I'm quite new to the manual focussing game. Thanks for the really useful tips beside your review. I appreciated that a lot!
Greetings from Germany
Hello thanks much my man. This review took me weeks to put together. Definitely look at these other reviews I did a few years ago, the voigtlander color Ultron the Mir 37 mm and the Helios. They have unique character also that I'm sure you will get a kick out of. I've always wanted to go to Germany I really appreciate mechanical design. As a matter of fact I have several vintage cameras from there that I shoot film in like rolleiflex and a Leica iiif. What I wouldn't give to visit the antique shops on a Saturday morning
awesome review with lots of information on the Trioplan, love the shots ! thank you for making the video
Hello Annie I appreciate that. your name sounds familiar I feel like we've spoken before. Yes I had to go all out in reviewing this lens, I dont know if I will ever take so much time again to review one piece of camera gear but then again theres no other lens as complicated. I hope this video helps alot of people looking for accurate info and photo examples. I think everyone should force themselves to shoot on a lens like this for a few weeks. It will make you a more technical photographer able to make any gear sing. thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. peace.
your work definitely helps me to better understand the nature of this lens, you share your actual experience and I find that to be very valuable. Thank you.
Thank you so much.. I am so glad for your review. Nok I am even happier for my trioplan. 😀👍❤️
I love these old lens designs-- a very good review, thanks.
How you doing Ray? thats actually my middle name. yes thanks there are alot of unique imperfections in these lenses that can be used in artistic ways as you can see, Ive got a few more as well, just a matter of making time to put a review together. thanks for taking the time to comment.
I wish I had seen this when I first got in to photography a year ago 🤔 a lot of info I had to figure out on my own n you packed it into 18 minutes. Thank you, subscribed.
Thanks my man I appreciate that. this is the longest video I've ever made that I don't think I have the guts to do another one this detailed LOL. If you like this lens feel free to check out my voigtlander color Ultron and Mir 37 mm reviews you may like their character also.
Great Review Ray... I look forward to your reviews.
Camera Review thanks Oz as you can see I went all out with this one. I don't know if I will ever put this much time into a lens review again lol. In the next few weeks I should be completed with my review of the voigtlander color Ultron 50mm 1.8. I appreciate you taking the time to check out my work, your Leica channel and camera store tv is what got me fired up about lenses. Peace.
Excellent review & presentation, thank you. I came across your video when looking for more info on this lens. I've just purchased this lens in M42 mount to use on my LEICA SL2. Regards from South Africa.
Hello Mike thank you, yes it's hard to find it in that mount. definitely let me know how it goes period and remember shooting wide open will need a little sharpening and contrast added, I usually sent it at F4 for a good balance.
@@Raychristofer Hi Ray thanks for the reply & feedback. Will let you know how it goes.
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Very well put together video! Thank you for this!
Awesome thanks so much.
Nice review as always! You make quality videos! Couple pointers from the mentioned:
1. I have a Trioplan 50mm 2.9 (red V) version in Altix mount, and this red V lens has buttery smooth stepless aperture and focus rings, absolute joy to use and wonderful for video aswell. Focus throw is long though, almost 270 degrees.
2. Altix mount (breech lock type in Altix V) is indeed a peculiar mount, rarity among many other mounts. Luckily the flange distance matches nicely with M42 / PK (Pentax). If one dares and is up for some very basic DIY, it's rather easy to use a small file for grinding the 3 lens mount blades to match M42 threads (for example). Work your way through step by step, testing periodically how / when it mounts. There's a good chance you'll eventually get a very tight fit to the adapter, by forcefully turning it along the threads, or sort of pushing it in. Focuses nicely to infinity.
3. Lens caps are difficult to come by. 34mm generic cap is close enough, but no way perfect. With the bit of grinding the cap will fit aswell. It's not pretty, but it works.
Since it's soon Christmas and the lights are up, it's time put the lens to proper use, for normal usage and Bokeh hunting.
Ville Mononen I really appreciate you checking out the video and given that technical advice, I actually thought about filing the three parts of the m42 adapter to make it fit but I only have one focal reducer and I didn't want to mess with it that way . Believe me I tried other DIY ways to make it fit. I didn't know there was a trioplan with a stepless aperture I learned something. I've had people tell me they bought the new version but they like the older version better and it actually seemed to sharper in the center. I believe them because when I get Focus spot on you could see individual strands of hair.. what I really wanted to do was find vintage photos with this lens from the fifties to include in my review and it is extremely difficult to find those I couldn't find any. I also think would modern cameras and editing we're able to get so much more out of these lenses that we couldn't get before when using film. As a matter of fact I wonder if soap bubbles was a thing back then for them. Since you're a guru I'm going to have to come up with a challenge for you but give me time I have to make it nice and difficult lol . Peace
Ville Mononen What is the difference between the one with the red V and the one without ?
Gustavo Ibarra: It's difficult for me to say and find information about it. Some say that the (red) V stands for Vergütet in German, in this case meaning added level of Coating. Becoming multi-coated in some sense. Red V does stand out as some special mention, and very easily could be related to some "special" coating like in other lenses, such as Canon S.C.C., Fujinon EBC etc. But of course that's no indication of similar high quality as the two forementioned (different era, different coating standards). Then again, if that's true, i still doubt it makes much difference, if at all in normal use. The lens design is already very basic 3 elements in 3 groups, in Cooke Triplet fashion. As far as i know, there hasn't been special hunt for some particular Trioplan 50mm versions (besides mount types, M42 being most desirable), so i'm sure you'll get the Trioplan experience all the same. But it does require dedication and certain circumstances to truly shine. Trioplan 100mm seems to be the King of bubbles, but it's expensive nowadays.
Another point of view is that Altix V (released mid 50's) was the first Altix camera to have Interchangeable lenses. This lens came from those early cameras (probably Altix V), so perhaps the V on the lens could simply relate to that camera model. That's it's sort of their first celebration model, the first interchangeable. Distinguishing the new in relation to their previous fixed models. I'm truly guessing here. I suppose the biggest change i can see of now, is that that my Red V (early model) has stepless apertures, where as Ray's later model has hard stops. Considering the simple design of the lens, i'd like to think de-clicking wouldn't be so difficult (if possible), if that's what really you want.
All the same, get whatever Trioplan you can (that seems in good condition), and you're good to go. Some articles:
- About Altix cameras -> camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Altix
- About Altix cameras #2 -> www.cjs-classic-cameras.co.uk/altix/altix2.html
- About the Triangle shaped Quality mark -> translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGütezeichen_(DDR)&edit-text=&act=url
My Altix V Alissa camera has the uality mark of "1 inside triangle" (Grade 1). My Red V lens has an "empty triangle", meaning it's before the time (early 50's) when they started numerating them, as far as i understand. Alright then, happy hunting and happy shooting! The hunt for the swirly and bubbly bokeh has begun.
Ville Mononen Ville, you know your stuff, wouldn't hurt for you to do a vintage lens review also I would love to see your take on it. I appreciate that knowledgeable contribution of trio technology, that's what I needed when I was researching to produce this review. To tell you the truth the mire lens I really would like is the Primoplan. Its wider aperture and more modern design has a beautiful rendering. I'm sure you've seen many examples but yes it's expensive not as much as the 100mm trial but it's getting up there. When I read reviews of the new models I almost get the impression that they're not necessarily better lenses, they have shorter minimum focusing distances and apparently more modern coatings but it seems people still love the old models as well.
Dope vid, great throwback product revived. Appreciate the vid!
Everton how you doing my man? Im glad youre still on the grid. yes this vid is very niche like. I dont think manu folks know about Meyer Optik but those that do deserve detailed info on the lens. kinda like you and your headphone reviews. I honestly dont know any other youtuber who is as prolific with keeping up with modern audio. I think my fav one was your House of Marley headphones. not cheap though. peace.
Great review or a great glass. Wish it was cheaper so I could dare to try it. Any ways, very well done, in your part and especially I admire your interest in going deep into subject you like.
Keep up the great work.
Thanks so much Sam. I knew this video would not go viral but this lens deserves the weeks it took to produce this. You can get one less than 180.00 so it's not bad. The primoplan that's one out of my price range lol
@@Raychristofer Thanks very much Ray and at $180 I may actually pull the trigger on this one. But must admit, I was eagerly started to save and looking into net SE , the company behind the so called Reincarnation of Mayer Optik lenses, who announcement that they are going to re manufacture one of the nicest secrete lenses ever made by Meyer, that is their PRIMOPLAN 75MM F1.9 which was produced some 80-90 years back, only in a very small number, just to be the victim of World War II and disappear for ever. Unfortunately I am learning that the German plan failed and it will never be produced :( Anyways seems for now, looking at something old at ebay and keeping the fingers crossed to get a good copy of the item, first, then in good working condition, without much internal imperfection, fungi, dust, scratch, lens separation... is gonna be the only option.
Again thanks to your kind reply and care, beside the great effort in making this video. I admire your passion for the mysterious lenses of the past that are put into great life again. Keep on what you are doing (At best) and you have another subscriber / follower here. Thanks my friend.
Really cool review!
Word up BP really appreciate you checking it out. Very few photographers know about this lens I'm glad that you're having your finger on the pulse of your history.
Great review! Note that you can easily de-click this lens. From my Altix version: Unscrew the black front part, pull out the aperture ring (carefull to catch the ball bearing & spring) and put the aperture ring and front part back. To easily re-click the lens you'd better remove the entire lens group by removing the outer ring on the back. Easier access. Very simple lens to disassemble.
Just got one in a M42 mount! Thanks for the review!
Moisés Musashi Santana you're welcome MM, now that you have commented it's your solemn duty to share your results with the rest of the world, or at least with me lol. No pressure bro
Mail delivery is expected tomorrow, I'll try take some pics and leave the link here :)
Very very good review! I just got a Pentax on 50mm 1.8 and love it. I kind of like the hexa bokeh elements. It may be a defect, but it is certainly different from my other lenses.
Thanks man glad it was helpful, I actually reviewed a Pentax 28mm takumar in my feed a year who.
I just stumbled upon your channel, and I am really enjoying your content!
I had both on my cart! This and the Jupiter, now I don’t know which one to buy 👌😁, and fantastic review by the way, I subscribed :)
Gustavo Ibarra Thanks Gustavo. The Jupiter has the wider aperature but the trio has a better image quality in my opinion. If you're not sure get both lol.
Great review Ray, sold me on the lens.
Tre Parker yes Tre, thanks for taking the time to check it out, it's my longest video by far. It's interesting how polarizing this lens is. Some people love the bubbles and some hate it. It's important to keep these vintage lenses with character alive because the courts can be used in many different artistic ways. There are other Meyer lenses also that have this unique character it's a good idea to check them out also. Peace
Awesome, thanks for all that great information. You made one of those videos that I don’t mind watching all the way through!
Will have to make up my mind whether I can get on board with the look of that lens and color photography tho. :D The softness and bokeh shape in the corners is just not something I’m used to with modern digital color photography.
I like the way you describe it, i got an Exakta-mount version and use it on my good old Canon 70D. I also love my Carl Zeiss 'Pancolar' 50mm 1.8, Pentacon 50mm 1.8 and the Canon n-FD 50mm 1.4. If you like those older German lenses, I can also recommend the Voigtländer 'Color-Skopar' 50mm 2.8 and the Schneider-Kreuznach 'Retina-Xenar' 50mm 2.8. Thank you for your great work. Regards from Germany !
Hello and thanks so much for taking the time to stop and comment and share your experience with these lenses also. I actually reviewed the voigtlander color Ultron 50 mm on the channel my rolleicord has that Schneider lens and I've been tempted to get one in m42 Mount also. I think this is the longest video review I've ever done man. Feel free to share your work
Good to see you coping with your addiction, nice new video, well done.
Richard Parrington lol hello Richard thank you LOL. You know what I kind of don't feel the need to get any other lenses right now I kind of have something to cover every circumstance. Thanks for taking the time to check it out I had a good time putting this together
Very thorough review. Thank you.
Jim M Thank you Jim. This is the longest review I've done but it was necessary. Glad it helped
Thanks for this great video! Lots of great info here....
Much welcome Alex. Was my pleasure to put it together. Respect
Really good review, especially in comparison to the others about the topic on RUclips. The only issue were the changes in audio level, but that does not ruin the video for me.
Thank you Albert yes this is the longest review I've ever done. Not really able to monetize it unfortunately. I've since started using better microphones and editing with headphones on for that very reason. Thanks for taking the time to comment
Fab review and wonderful cinematography. I have the 100mm and need to get the 50mm now.. Happy New Year.
Thanks so much I appreciate you noticing the care and effort I put into this video. It took me months to put together. My only regret is using it on a micro four-thirds camera because it's so crap game even with a focal reducer. It hasn't clarity and a certain look to it that's modern lenses don't have because they have so many elements in their making Corrections that it loses something. I think I'm going to give you a friendly challenge to produce your own video review of your 100 mmmm. No pressure LOL
@@Raychristofer Your welcome and again congratulations on the high production value in your video. I have just uploaded a brief overview of the 100mm but am both shamed and inspired by your work here. Happy New Year.
@@phasephoto3265 don't be ashamed my man, after giving you that challenge I went to your channel and see you have already reviewed it LOL. I watched both of your videos it is good to see someone new reviewing these vintage cameras because as time goes on these modern cameras get more plastic and touch screen and dainty in my opinion. There's a feeling I get when I look at my medium format images especially the Black and Whites that I cannot reproduce with my digital camera and I don't think modern digital medium format can reproduce it either
I love the Meyer Optik lens too. I just bought an PRIMOPLAN 58mm f1.9 (same as the kickstarter one) and an Primagon 35mm f4.5 (old one) over ebay with good price. Anyway, thank you so much of sharing this with me.
Thanks Ken. Primoplan is great choice. Plz do a review of it like this when you get comfortable with it.
Good review Ray, interesting lens!
Hello thank you Mick, I didnt know you were into old school gear, then again you and I been around a long time I guess we havo no choice lol. I dont think I will edit such a long review again. I need a vacation lol. thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment
Great review - thanks for sharing - there are very few guys checking out this glass - I'd love to get one at some stage. The Helios 40 has also been re-manufactured, with an EOS mount. When it comes to the old Zeiss's, the lack of a circular aperture at smaller f-stops is sometimes quoted as being deliberate to introduce texture into the bokeh. I'm not sure whether this is actually true, but it's often said that the 'funkiness' of the AE Zeiss/Contax OOF areas is due to the ninja star aperture blades (the later MM's never had the ninja star).
Hello Gary thanks so much for taking the time to comment those details. Forgive me for missing your comment for so long. Much respect
Super review!! I like how you brought the into different types of photography and so much fun to watch and very informative!!! Would this lens fit a Fujifilm X mount cameras
Hello thanks so much. No it wouldn't fit directly on your Fuji. They didn't have Fuji x mounts back then. I speak In The video about the importance of making sure there is a lens adaptor for whatever model of this lens you purchase available for your camera
Superb video , I love Meyer lenses , just got the Meyer Optik Gorlitz Oreston 50mm f 1.8 , i would say check that lens out , realy worth looking into ;) . Keep up these video s , helps a lot , and its cool to watch . Greetz David
Dave-DMD Pichler-Photo thanks big dave, yes i heard alot about the oreston. I think theres another lens identical to it but rebranded also. Yeah man this video took over a month to put together. Appreciate your comment
Really enjoyed your review- thx!
Hello Gary thanks so much my man yes I love talking about these old lenses. The new ones are boring even though I use them. You may like to check out my voigtlander color ultron review as well as the Mir 37mm. Thanks for stopping by, welcome to the channel.
Nice video, thank you :) I like vinatge lenses and am thinking about buying this Trioplan. Greetings.
Wow well made video, keep up the amazing job man, thanks for the info subbed! :)
Sebastian Jern you're welcome Sebastian no problem one thing I know RUclips is a crowded place but I don't have to worry about competition with this particular lens review LOL, very few people are dealing with it here
Raychristofer word! You got me interested in vintage lenses. I watch alot of yotube-content and I do filmmaking fulltime. When watch the way you make tutorials, with the history, information and all the details I wonder why you dont have aaaalot more followers. Keep up the good work! :)
Sebastian Jern Thanks bro , I think it's because my channel is all over the place sometimes. Would be better if I focused on photography alone and uploaded more often. I also take entirely too long producing each vid. But I'm doing it as a boot camp to train myself getting better at shooting and editing. Good looking out
Hey man, awesome review. I got the 100 pentacon projector lens, modified. Same as the trioplan 100 but at a much reduced price. I'll try to get the 50mm as well. This is for underwater photography ☺
Raychristofer at 5:49: there is a big difference between fully manual and automatic diaphragm in terms of engineering constraints. A manually-operated iris diaphragm can have many blades, each blade is held at both ends. But an automatically-actuated iris diaphragm needs to have as little friction and inertia as possible as each blade is held at the same end, so it would be difficult, if at all possible, to increase the number of blades, while making the iris to snap down to its setting instantaneously.
Seele2015au thanks for that Tech tip, that's actually something I never thought of. I guess that's why I even having oil on the blades is a problem for that type of mechanism.
Raychristofer Indeed; many less-experienced types think that oil on iris blades is invariably bad, but it makes no difference if the iris diaphragm is manually operated.
I just got one !! shall test it now
Nice review thank you.
Very cool review. 👍
Sergio L what's up Sergio thanks man, this is one of those lenses so few people know about and take so long to review I just did it for the love of it instead of the AdSense LOL.
Just stumbled onto this one. Well done.
Thank you, this video took almost a month to shoot and edit, probably to much work for an obscure lens I can't put an affiliate link to buy lol. Labor of love though. Only wish I had better audio mic back then.
Great review!
Hello thank you, unfortunately very few people know about this lens. Had a lot of fun shooting this
Thanks for the review!
You're welcome thanks for checking it out, I'm really surprised this lens is not more popular and more people aren't using it
@@Raychristofer I shot many years on DSLR, mainly with soviet/Russian lenses. Now i`m waiting for the M42 to e-mount adapter, might aswell order a speedbooster. One hell of a portrait lens i recommend to anyone, is the Jupiter 37A (135mm f.3/5).Also, The 40-2 (85mm f/2) is excellent too :) Russia is making lenses again, and its a good thing.
@@NIKONOVICH1990 that's awesome. You're a veteran. I reviewed the Helios on my channel a few yrs ago also and I'm thinking of getting a moskva 5 now that I'm shooting medium format.
Fine review Trioplan 50 mm.
Thank you alke. It's the most time and effort I've put into any of my videos but probably the least watched lens review other than the kit zoom lol. Glad you dig it.
Ray , thank you for your Fantastic video thank you very much for your information I love of the older things of photography. I would love to find some old lenses that can be adapted to a Nikon F mount , that’s hard to fine tune
Shawn Carroll Big Sean thanks man glad you like the video, it took me a few months to put together. One thing I know is Nikon cameras are harder to adapt than anything else, might have something to do with flange distance buy some lenses won't reach infinity. If you like this you night want to check out my Helios or voigtlander review if you get this lens let me know how you get along with it. Peace
Hello Ray - a great review! This was posted in 2017 and I'm wondering whether you have had a chance to take a look at the new version of this since this video? Also, if you had a choice would you buy the Trioplan or Primoplan??
Great video!
Word up, thanks Stef. This video took me probably a month to put together
Excellent ! Thank you...
You're welcome, good looking out
Awesome review! Thanks!
Thanks much Daniel, I dedicate it to you. if you like these old lenses with character definitely also check out my voigtlander color Ultron and my Helios 44 reviews. Respect
Raychristofer I just bought an old Trioplan 100mm, its on the way to me. So excited to try it out and play with the bokeh. Will check out the Voigtländer as well, havn‘t stumbled upon that yet.
@@Motelecomp cool man. Hopefully you're using it on a full frame camera. what I found is if you're not going after bubble bokeh I just leave it at F4, it's a great compromise between shallow dof and sharpness. Let me know how it goes for you.
@@Motelecomp color Ultron.
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❤ after all this time since I first watched this video 6 years ago, I still refer to it ❤
your color science is super( nice contrast greens)
I adapted my Trioplan on Sony A7ii with altix to m39 -> m39 to leica M and that package is on a techart pro leica m to sony autofocusing adapter. It sounds messy, but is actually pretty slick pile of adapters. And it works too, nothing is loose.
Hahaha that's funny. Gotta look frankenstein lol
Great video! Very interesting Bokeh! It's almost shiny looking!
Yes Brendan. what turned me on to this is a photographer took a shot of a guitar with all the shiny parts and I was mesmerized and had to have one. definately want to tighten up photos in editor as always though to get the most out of it. but then again even a 10,000 Leica lens you tweak in editor also. thanks
Raychristofer How much would one of these run me?
Brendan the cheapest is about 130.00 for an altix mount. I would pay more for the cleanest one I can find. whats crazy is the 100mm Trioplan is between 6-1000 dollars or more. the good thing is there are much cheaper Meyer Optik lenses for under a hundred that also create soap bubbles.
just bought one with EXA body for 65 Euro
I imagine Liu theyre plentiful there and will cost much less. I guess im comparing US ebay prices.
The triotar is very flattering as a portrait lens as a general rule. My Rolleicord with a triotar (Cooke triplet) is my go to 'Cord for a portrait shoot.
Great job got the hellos for swirl and triopan. For bubbles
Got lucky and got one for $30! Can't wait to try it out :)
What about what camera mounts you are using and any suggestions for adapters to nikon etc?
Super nice.
Just bought one on ebay 4 days ago and that one is 42m :)
Have the pancolar, jupiter 9 85mm and helios 44-4 (all 42m) on the way.
Still waiting for adapters for them...using fujifilm xt2. Really excited about trying all if them out.
Nice reciew!
Thank you man, I really like getting comments like that. It's kind of sad that I don't get excited about the images from my modern lenses. I really wonder what is missing from them, maybe all the corrections they do to fix aberrations and things like that changes something about the images but yes this 3 element Lens really has a look to it that I can't explain. Let me know your experiences once you get those. I also think you can get a focal reducer for that Fuji and it will look almost full frame
@@Raychristofer really cool!
They come with some standard no name m42 to fuji x adapters and I will try them out first and see if/how I like them. So far I only have fujinon lenses , and I love them. If you are interested here is my flickr www.flickr.com/photos/158845391@N04/
Really looking forward to trying them out.
Take care!
@@Raychristofer I have been playing around with manual lenses for the past 3 weeks or so and wow!
This is a whole new world of mindful photography opening up.
Still waiting on the helios and jupiter 9 but I have been using carl zeiss pancolar 50mm f 1.8, trioplan 50mm f 2.9 and I recently found a mint condition pentax super takumar 1.9 85mm and a m42 to fuji x adapter in barcelona so I could attach these lenses.
The pentax is superb as well as the other ones, all the latest pics on my flickr are vintage lenses.
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@@crvshinator you've got a beautiful photo stream. It's so cool how excited you are about the Vintage lenses because you remind me of myself. A lot of people don't particularly notice the differences on the nuances my wife for example couldn't tell the difference between an iPhone image and my camera LOL. You've got a great set. I challenge you in time to do your own video reviews of them. No pressure
Raychristofer I understand :)
who knows man, some day I might make a video. I am living with my girlfriend in a camper van and driving through europe. We started in Iceland where we are from and are now in spain,,, 3 days in a ferry to denmark, drove denmark-germany, netherlands, belgium, france, spain and on our way to Portugal. Already been traveling for about 3 months so there are many opportunities to take nice pictures :) Thanks for the feedback man😁 wish you all the best
Very cool video.
Thank you, not a very popular lens but it should be. thanks for taking the time to comment
Thanks man, nice pictures, correct video. Use the mics inside also, because the camera mic is very poor. Can I ask what kind of focus reducer are You using for the lens? All the best from Europe, Hungary, Budapest
Hello how are you? Thanks so much. I shot this video at a time when I did not have any external microphones at all and yes it's pretty horrible. My recent videos are much improved. That is a roxsen/pixco focal reducer in m42 Mount
Really enjoyed that Ray thanks!
Mitchell Hagerty hello Mitchell, thanks for taking the time to check it out I appreciate it. That was a long video wasn't it? They were actually a couple segments I shot but left out of the edit just to keep it from running too long or being too technical. Thanks for taking the time to comment it's good to know what folks think of the work I'm doing. Peace
I really think you nailed the substance/style balance. The pacing and mood and obvious thought and care you put into the production are so much better than many of the sterile reviews one typically sees on youtube. Why not do multiple reviews? For example the normal one you've done, a techy/how-to one on the review topic, and an even more meta techy one about how you made the video itself. What I've seen on youtube lately is that reviewers will break reviews up into multiple segments which contain a great deal of overlap/redundant footage. I think they do this so when a search is done on youtube they get multiple videos appearing in the results instead of just one and they can also squeeze every-bit out of there footage and increase the frequency of uploads which youtube encourages. Looking forward to the next one! :) Mitch
Mitchell Hagerty yes Mitch you know what it is, sometimes I click on a lens review and all it is is someone sitting at a desk for 15 minutes talking and never taking it outside, I want to pull my hair out literally LOL. My dad says if you're going to take time to do something why not do it your best. That's an interesting idea of breaking it up, I do have extra footage but it's not cohesive enough to Cobble into another review. I think a good lens for me to do another follow up review on is the Helios though. I will keep those things in mind the next time I shoot a review. Thanks for the input. By the way I have a Carl Zeiss and a voigtlander that I should review in the future. Peace
Great review I was wondering if I could get your help or anyone else’s to find a e-mount for a Jupiter 9 no one in NYC camera store knows what it is?? Cheers
Hello thank you, are you saying you need an email to adapter to your Meyer opticleanse? That's not something you're going to really find that many camera stores you have to find that on eBay or Amazon but you have to make sure you know which mount your particular lens is
nice video, Thank you for sharing. what kind of adaptor do you use?
Hello sorry I missed your message, I showed in the video that im using an m42 focal reducer.
Hello Ray,thank you so much for this very nice film of te Meyer lenses, i love those bubbles.
I have bouth an old Practica camera with an Meyer f3.5 E 50mm Gorlitz Primoplan for 20 dollars, and wenn i see this film im even more enthouisiast ,i cant wait till i get the 42 mm Adapter that i get tomorrow.
im sorry for mij english thats not so good.
nice greetings from Enschede the Netherlands
Hello brother Thomas no thank you for the kind words and taking the time to watch. This is the longest video I ever made and took a few months to put together. One thing I forgot to mention is I think using these lenses on a digital camera brings out a clarity that film can't do so well. The bubbles are more vibrant it seems. I wanted to find evidence that in the past film days they used it for bubbles also but couldn't see any. If you like this lens feel free to look at my other vintage lens reviews like the Helios and Voigtlander color ultron, they have a beautiful swirly character. The primoplan I've wanted for so long but I can't afford it lol you got a good deal. What camera will you be using the lens on?
@@Raychristofer Thanks so much for your quick message Ray i shorly look at your other reviews
I set the Meyer on my Pentax K3 if you wont to look at my pitchers you can see it at tonysettanta Flickr
Best regards and have a fine day ThomasMeyer
Maybe it's worth mentioning that the standard Pentacon 50mm f1.8 lens that came with most Praktica cameras is a bubble blowing monster as well. Got an adapter m42 to eos EF and used the Pentacon from my dad's MTL-3. It is fantastic, the bokeh is mind blowing, when used right it is full of soapbubbles.
I would go as far as saying that these lenses should be used with caution, overdoing it can lead to severe nausea from a wild picture full of bubbles and swirls, doping for the eyes. Still, i would love to get my hands on a vintage Trioplan, they're beautyful.
Greetings from Amsterdam.
Nice review. I think I have to dust off my old Trioplan lenses :-)
Thank you so much for your nice video. Some of trioplans have one red V on them are they same like yours? And it has two types of mounts exakta and altix. Im so confused about them . I have a canon EF body and I dont know can I use this lens after all? So sorry for long question!
Hello how are you? Thank you. The exacta and altix mounts are the most plentiful, look for an adapter with one of those mounts to Canon ef. The red v means it is coated. Thanks for stopping by let me know how it goes.
@@Raychristofer .So happy I can use It with my camera!😊I appreciate your kindness.
@@masoomehtanghatari8750 much respect. Where are you from
Thx for the video.
evelasq1 thanks for checking it out, I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Please share it with any of your friends that you think May dig a lens like this
i love those bubbles. The CP2 Ziess makes bubble now. for about $4000.00 I must get me TRIO 50mm for my new Panasonic GH5s
mars GIA Yeah Mars, you know I was thinking back in the film days the bubbles prob didn't show up the same on film. Especially BW. Maybe digital brings them out more especially since we can wait the files to maximize them.
Great review man!!! Cheers! Jeep Shooting
Really appreciate that Rodrigo I spent the most time shooting this review than any other video, I don't think I have the guts to put this much work into another review LOL
One think I found out is that if you shave a little the m42 adapter , the Altix mount will screw in perfectly . Now I have my Trioplan with M42-eos adapter on it and I can use on my M50(apc sensor) with an ef-efm adapter or even on speed booster adapter that will lover the F2.9 to probably lower then F2 and focal length to a real 50mm .
Ray. Thanks for the review; love the lens. How did you get the lens to attach to a DSLR? I'm looking for adapter, but can't seem to locate any. Thanks.
Fernando M. Almada hello thank you, I spoke in detail in the video about my struggle with adapting the lens to my particular camera. I'm using micro four-thirds.
Fernando M. Almada adapters are basic look at what Mount the Lens comes in and look at what amount your camera is and find an adapter that has both connections
thanks Ray. I did find an Altix adapter; never heard of it until I watched your video. thanks again for all the info.
Fernando M. Almada it's a shame they made all these lens mounts look the same but be incompatible. I actually use more m42 lenses now so I only need one mount. Let me know how you get on with the lens
Great review. I've been looking at these lenses for some time and wondering how much post process was involved in some of the shots I have seen on flickr. From your video it looks like straight out of the camera the images are great. Did you apply any corrections to the whole video or are those colours just what it looks like? If so, I'm sold. I love those warm rick colours and having the bokeh there if you want it, in an otherwise great lens, makes me think one of these is worth the $$ they are asking on eBay these days. I really appreciate the tips on shooting and your general style. Nicely done.
Richard Powell hello Richard, I appreciate the comment. This is my most extensive review, probably took me over two months to put together. As far as processing no I didn't mess with the colors when editing I may have added some Vibrance. And when shooting wide open that's when you need to add a little sharpening, local contrast and whatever else the image needs to get the end result you're looking for. I encourage you to check out the full resolution images in my Flickr link. It's amazing how crisp and sharp this 3 element lens is in the center when stopped down to F4. I read in some forums that the new model in is not necessarily Superior in image quality to a good old one. What camera will you be using it on?
Thanks Ray, I was just looking at your photos on flickr. I really do like the colour coming through that lens of yours. I ordered an Oreston back in December (currently lost in transit somewhere), and from what I've been able to gather the Trioplan has a bit more sharpness, so I've just bid on one on ebay. Will be interesting to compare the two if I get them both. The new model you mentioned looks like it may do justice to the original, but somehow I like the idea of having a vintage one. I also like your suggestion to use these lenses for more than just the artistic Bokeh application. You have done a real service in showing the lens in video mode, really gives a sense of how it works "live."
Richard Powell yeah man as mythical as this lens is supposed to be it makes you wonder why there are so few reviews it's usually hard to get a video to rankon RUclips because there are so many other ones to compete with so hopefully this particular video can stand out and maybe come on the first page. I love reviewing lenses because there's so much to talk about especially these older ones. I challenge you to review yours when you get it LOL no pressure bro
Ha ha, yeah, I've thought about getting more serious with my video work. I find it very time consuming but my son is starting in on it too and is using some new software he says makes it much easier. We shall see. It is really interesting how sometimes there is lots of fluff, but not a lot of depth in reviews and the associated discussions of lenses. I've been seeing a number of people express dissatisfaction with the "technical" precision of modern lenses at the expense of warmth and character. I love my 17mm Olympus and marvel at the sharpness and range of use. The bokeh is actually quite nice. But my favorite lens at the moment is my old Oly OM F. Zuiko 50mm from the late 70s from the first serious camera I owned!! I love celebrating these old beauties. I hope you do more reviews like this Ray. I'll be watching. :-)
Richard Powell thank you Richard. I should have my voigtlander color ultron review up in a few weeks. It's a zeiss planar design and great wide open. Yes video is very time consuming but I can't review a lens sitting at a table talking to the cam like alot of folks. You have to take them in the field otherwise any bloke could review it lol.
Very good and informative presentation. Do you have any experience with or thoughts about using that lens on a full frame body? I would guess that an M42 lens should not be a problem with a full frame as long as you have an adapter.
brant morrison hello I appreciate it. I wish more people knew about this lens but then again maybe that would drive the prices up. Of course it was made for full frame I use it with an adapter on my film camera all you need is a whatever camera you have to m42 type adapter. The problem is you're going to catch hell trying to find this in m42 Mount and it will be expensive. See if you can find what you have to altx Mount those lenses are about $150
Thanks for your reply. The original Trioplan lenses might be a just a bit too dear on ebay to consider at this time. Perhaps one of the many Russian M42 models might satisfy my curiosity about the round bubble bokeh. Luckily, I have a couple FD and FL lenses and an unused Jupiter or two which will keep me busy when I am not looking through some likely shops.
brant morrison I hear you're my man and the sad thing is as much as I love this lens I don't take it out very often because I'm usually trying to shoot at one point eight and things like that. If you find some interesting lenses with character don't hesitate to let me know about them I'm always looking for something new. Peace
Hey Ray Good Review as usual, Karl Zeiss' people just hit me up and offered me a whole lot of Money, i need to see a Counter offer from you lol...
Lol whats up Petey? they must have got our accounts mixed up, that offer was for me lol.
I have the remake Sony mount 100 but I can’t find the 50 new.
Nice !
I have that lens . Use it on my Fuji x pro 2 . Other soap-bokeh one is the Meyer Gorlitz Oreston 50mm F1.8 . The trioplan is very small and weight is about 80gram, has 12 blades and obvious only 3 lenses . I find it more difficult to focus because it is so small and the focusing ring is not that smooth ( could be my copy ) . The Oreston is bigger , weighs about 215 grams, has only 6 blades and 6 elements in 4 groups , is faster at F1.8 and easier to focus. I tend to use the Oreston more often. Never compared both optical, will do one day.
Thanks I appreciate that oreston information I've never tried one. I also would like to try a primoplan but they're expensive. Good looking out
Superb review Ray, can you please guide what type of mount Meyer gorlitz 50mm f2.9 should I get for a6000. How is the contrast on this lens wide-open.
Anandan Baskaran Hello thank you. I actually spoke about the dilemma of adaptors in the video. The best thing for you to do is look at all lenses available and write down the mounts they come in. Then look for adaptors for your Sony in that mount. Most gorlitz lenses will be altix mount. Ideally you want to use a focal reducer to get the most of the lens character. Hope that helps.
Raychristofer after seeing your Roxsen focal reducer video, I just ordered for Roxsen ef to nex mount since I have fd, CY, m42 lens.
Anandan Baskaran hey you won't regret it, it's mandatory to use that. Much of the character in these lenses is in the outer part of the frame that would have been cropped out. I'm glad my video was of help. When you get the reducer let me know your experience with it.
Raychristofer thanks to you for opening my vision. Im going to be in love with this focal reducer. I ordered from Roxsen.com directly on 3/23 and still no reply from them. Should I cancel with them and order from eBay?
Ray, I just checked their website and now the status shows shipped. Kindly disregard the above. Now I'm so excited
Keepin' it unreal this week...
Great review and slick video. I could find a trioplan modified for M42 for a good price here. I will share my impressions. I will use it in M 4/3 with a simple adapter, the
The Mitakon Lensturbo , and try also with the metabones speedbooster with a M42 - Nikon adapter. It will allow me to use the speedbooster but probably I won’t be able to infinity focus. But the lenses be like a 37 mm 1.8.
Waldemir Queiroz hey Wald. Yeah let m know how it turns out. Mine didn't have any trouble with infinity Focus. Are you also using micro four-thirds?
Raychristofer Yes, I use currently GX85 moving to G9.
Raychristofer www.dropbox.com/s/ybavfe9tt96new7/Photo%201-13-18%2C%2018%2035%2022.jpg?dl=0
www.dropbox.com/s/kae9gw7352nz262/Photo%201-13-18%2C%2018%2036%2027.jpg?dl=0
Just a couple of test photos I took with the Trioplan with a GX85. Later I will take with the Lensturbo. I am very pleased.
Waldemir Queiroz that's beautiful. Is that a trio shot?
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Raychristofer Yes, that’s the lens and setup.
I must be weird, because I love the octagon shape of the Zeiss, as well as the swirling effects of Helios, and the bubbly effect of this lens. I don't want to shoot with a vintage lens to render what I get from a modern lens. I shoot with legacy and vintage lenses because of their so called imperfections.
You're not weird bro that's a beautiful thing about vintage lenses you find all kind of unusual characters in them. That's funny you said that LOL
Very well done review. I lucked up on a Meyer Optik for $30 on Ebay. Waiting on it to arrive.
@@in_srch_of_lb that's incredible boss what model and lens mount is it? I think the primoplan is the most desirable as well as expensive, it's out of my range
@@Raychristofer It's a Domiplan, I'm not really sure of the mount until it arrives. The photo the seller took of the mount was out of focus, but I could see that it is a bayonet styled mount. Don't know if you have a Instagram page, but I'll look you up and when it arrives and I shoot a little with it, I'll keep you posted my friend. I don't think I ever had this much dialogue with a content creator on RUclips. I really appreciate how down to Earth you are.
@@in_srch_of_lb LOL thanks, there's a lot of Photography content creators that are cool. It's a good idea if you could find out what kind of Mount it is before you get it so you can buy an adapter in the mean time. I'm going to wager that the mount is either altix or Exacta. And once you find out the amount do some research to make sure you'll be able to get infinity focus on your particular camera. I know Nikon's have problems sometimes adapting lenses. No I don't have an Instagram I use Flickr and I belong to several Facebook photography groups. Feel free to check out my Flickr album the link should be in the description
Hope you’re having a good one
Yes sir felix thanks. doing my best to work on my craft.
Nice & Thanks :)
krish arts & photography thanks and you're welcome. This is one of the few reviews of this lens out there. Still no proper reviews of the new one yet
Thanks , will share it on my FB page :) Good Luck :)
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I'm not sure I'd call those soap bubbles highlights unique to this lens. Lots of vintage lenses have that in common. Nonetheless, this lens does have a character and I appreciate the review.
Thanks for stopping by.
nice thanks
Ross Big Ross thanks. I'm surprised how few people know about this lens. As much as I dig it I don't use it alot because of the smaller aperature and im always chasing shallow dof
How can ia dapt the Trioplan 50 mm to my Panasonic Lumix G9??
Hello I actually explained that in the video in the part about why I have two of the lenses. It's pretty technical you probably best watch it again but you must first know what Mount your particular lens is coming in
Raychristofer Okay. Thank you for your hint. I will watch your video again on your RUclips canal.
@@alkekamstra3337 it's always best to use a speed booster when adapting old full frame lenses to micro 4/3, the problem is the only Speed Booster that will fit the trio is m42 Mount and that mouth is hard to find and more expensive. You can find many Baltic mount but you will have to use a straight adapter and you will be losing one stop of light as well as the lens will now be 100 millimeters instead of 50. I did a review on my channel of the focal reducer speed booster it will fully explain it in detail, check it out
Actually u can use speedbooster m43 to canon EF, and find some dummy adaptor EF to m42, its more reasonable and im doing it. Cheers
Automatic lenses needed to stop down quickly so fewer aperture blades made that easier. Hexagonal bokeh is not usually a problem. You can’t apply the same methodology for bokeh bubbles to the pancolar. They are very different designs.
That's the very reason I own both of them they both have their own characteristics.
The lens is a Cooke Triplet, 3 element design. The effect is probably diffraction from the iris caused by limitations in where the iris could be placed and the refractive indices of each element. The cool thing is the richness of colour and the micro contrast once you just use it normally. Tessars and Planars were able to beat the bright edged patches by being better designs. Your Pancolar is a planar type.
@@christopherward5065 The sad thing is a month after filming this the Zeiss rolled off my bed and dented the focus ring badly and is inoperable. I've since bought the voigtlander color ultron 50mm which has almost the exact same look. I reviewed it on the channel also. Yes the Trioplan images have a look to them that I can't explain. I think it's simple design has something that modern heavily corrected lenses lose out on.
U can stacking adaptors by using m43 to canon EF adaptor (easier to get) and stacking it with cheap 5$ adapter to m42 and it's working.
Hello you actually don't have to do that because there are many micro four-thirds to m42 adapters, it's the altax adaptor that is rare and hard to find and not adaptable to the speed booster
@@Raychristofer yup im sure, but with EF m43 speedbooster adaptor u can try bunch of other lenses beside the m42
@@Zangraf you're 100% correct about that my man. Respect