I love the color and design. This is definitely a vehicle you lease and trade in after 2 or 3 years though. It's not a long-term proposition. Brian, speak more Italian to me. 😍
Drive by wire brakes are a deal breaker. The Stelvio has them and the modulation is unpredictable and unsafe. What's wrong with regular hydraulic brakes?
From the outside it looks like a dressed up economy based automobile IMO. The interior look is much better, but too small for the price. Also, priced between $44,590 to $58,840, this is in a price class above vehicles of similar size such as the Audi Q3. The Alfa Tonale is priced into Acura RDX and Genesis GV70 territory. Almost BMW X3 and Audi Q5 territory. All of those are larger and most would consider to be more luxurious. This is going to be a tough sell. I'd recommend that Alfa lowers the price.
The Alfa dealer near me is not open on Saturday's. They expect you to take a day off work to buy their car and then take another day off to bring it in for maintenance and another day off for repairs. No thank you and no sale.
This is very true. This is missing the many good things of Stelvio. The rotary dial for the screen is missing here. Then Stelvio is RWD while this is FWD. And I heard that the steering is not as precise as in Stelvio. If not considering the PHEV part, Stelvio can be had with huge discounts and they will make up for the EV savings. And Stelvio has longer warranty
This may be my favorite car on the market. Does anyone know about Alfa reliability. The Giulia long term test with Motor Trend was abysmal. There are reports of problems with this car in Europe. I met a Stelvio owner today and he said he had no problems in 2 years. Wish Toyota or Mazda made something like this with an automatic transmission and PHEV of this size or smaller.
@@zero7523 Turbo on CX-30 has had some problems reliability wise. Also it's an ugly car to my eyes. And they don't offer a hybrid ya. Just waiting for the next CX30 from Mazda to do a better job with the styling ie. less body cladding and a little longer. Something is off with the proportions. The Alfa is perfect. The Corolla Cross hybird is decent but still want more power.
Well done Alex. I'm on the fence over the Alfa's reliability record. A friend owned a new Giulia a few years ago and it had numerous electrical gremlins
They must have resolved all those issues in this version of Tonale. I hope that most of the maintenance can be done at a Jeep/Dodge dealer too thus cheaper maintenance cost.
I wish we could stop living in 1975. Every company can produce a lemon but the incessant Italian car reliability discussion has gotten old 2017 Giulia Quad ...custom ordered ...best car EVER' 2020 Stelvio Ti Sport....daily driver...wish I had bought the Quad but I still love my Stelvio I could go on and on about my "Uber Quality German Car Ownership Experiences" .... FORZA ALFA BABY !!!! THE KING IS BACK !!!!
Glad to see a manufacturer is utilizing an electric rear axle now waiting to see if some 3rd party EV group might make an electric rear axle for existing FWD EVs as long as they could get access to the vehicles software. Anyway, good looking car nicely done and looks better than the Hornet.
The amount of incorrect information being provided in this video is just sad. The most egregious being the 20 inch wheels being described as 19 inch wheels at 2:32 when the presenter is kneeling next to the wheel where the size of both tire and wheel is right there next to him on the sidewall. This can be read on the tire at 18:10 with the size being 235/40/ZR20. It doesn't get any better from there with the only mistake getting caught in editing being the grossly incorrect curb weight he quoted. C'mon man, you gotta do better than this.
I don't understand why people love suv's I had 2018 explorer and I traded it for my new lexus es 350 . That's my first suv and last cars are so much better and if you have 45 kids get a mini van
@@bigmacdaddy1234 It doesn't have to be a sports car to have a manual transmission. My daily car is a manual, and it's not a sports car. I would fully understand if it was an option that should be ordered from the factory, not just a sample at the dealership. But for there not to be a manual transmission alternative makes no sense.
@@themoviebay My 2 cars are manuals. I don't buy automatics. In an era where the same vehicle has different types of engines, different types of seats, trim, equipment, wheels, and many more customizable things. Why can't I choose to have a manual transmission? To give an example within Alfa Romeo, the Gulia in all trims is also offered with manual transmission in Europe, which is not the case in the United States. As I said in the other answer, I would fully understand if it was an option that one should order from the factory. But an option after all.
Plug in hybrids, especially in the luxury segment, lose range as part of the trade in getting the flexibility. My wife's 5 series phev has total like 320 whereas the regular 4cyl has closer to 500.
The Alfa is the emotional choice, maybe not the smarter choice. The RAV4 isn’t fun at all and the Alfa is better to drive and has a nicer interior. Reliability is a concern though.
I'm sure the Rav4 Prime is the perfect car for you B, but for non-boring people who want a car that's actually FUN and exciting, might want to consider the Alfa.
WTH PHEV only??? That drivetrain is an outdated compliance version for old EU laws that already changed in most countries. Garbage. With only this drivetrain option the whole model is doomed to fail already.
Ok. An Alfa Romeo with a bland powertrain and limited driving feel and even brake by wire. I know why I’ve always had a desire to buy a 164 to augment the briefly enjoyable mistake I made buying a Bi-Turbo for a month. But this doesn’t have all the passion that makes you have some momentary madness putting up with the unreliable nightmare that owning Italian cars generally is. This is not only lacking that ‘passion’, and I can get this not-passionate piece of junk as a Dodge and have $20k in my pocket to cover some of the maintenance cost. If this does well, my already impressive opinion of American stupidity will get notched up pretty danged high.
Oh Alex, you look a little different this week!
He got cuter!
Kudos on the Italian language skills. Bravo!
Brian, Thanks for pointing out the snake 5:09 . It will definitely bite. 😂
I love the color and design. This is definitely a vehicle you lease and trade in after 2 or 3 years though. It's not a long-term proposition.
Brian, speak more Italian to me. 😍
Not true. You don’t know Alfa at all. And why is that necessary to say anyways ?
Drive by wire brakes are a deal breaker. The Stelvio has them and the modulation is unpredictable and unsafe.
What's wrong with regular hydraulic brakes?
From the outside it looks like a dressed up economy based automobile IMO. The interior look is much better, but too small for the price. Also, priced between $44,590 to $58,840, this is in a price class above vehicles of similar size such as the Audi Q3. The Alfa Tonale is priced into Acura RDX and Genesis GV70 territory. Almost BMW X3 and Audi Q5 territory. All of those are larger and most would consider to be more luxurious. This is going to be a tough sell. I'd recommend that Alfa lowers the price.
Thank you for not calling DRLs "accent lights".
Looks awesome 😎 hope it drives like Giulia
Thanks for the review!
How does this stack up against NX450?
The Alfa dealer near me is not open on Saturday's. They expect you to take a day off work to buy their car and then take another day off to bring it in for maintenance and another day off for repairs. No thank you and no sale.
They obviously expect people who need a vehicle to get to work to know better than to buy an Alfa.
Just take it to a Dodge dealer.
Thats nice for the people who work there. 5 day work week.
If you are not your own boss you can't afford an Alfa.. lol
Stelvio is MUCH better and offered with HUGE discounts
This is very true. This is missing the many good things of Stelvio. The rotary dial for the screen is missing here. Then Stelvio is RWD while this is FWD. And I heard that the steering is not as precise as in Stelvio. If not considering the PHEV part, Stelvio can be had with huge discounts and they will make up for the EV savings. And Stelvio has longer warranty
Alfa's reliability record against Trax's... times are hard .
Alfa is much higher than red neck American junk
Please slow down your speech, it’s hard for some of us old folks to keep up with what you’re saying. Otherwise very good review.
This may be my favorite car on the market. Does anyone know about Alfa reliability. The Giulia long term test with Motor Trend was abysmal. There are reports of problems with this car in Europe. I met a Stelvio owner today and he said he had no problems in 2 years. Wish Toyota or Mazda made something like this with an automatic transmission and PHEV of this size or smaller.
Mazda CX-30 turbo. No PHEV unfortunately, but probably just as fast
@@zero7523 Turbo on CX-30 has had some problems reliability wise. Also it's an ugly car to my eyes. And they don't offer a hybrid ya. Just waiting for the next CX30 from Mazda to do a better job with the styling ie. less body cladding and a little longer. Something is off with the proportions. The Alfa is perfect. The Corolla Cross hybird is decent but still want more power.
Well done Alex. I'm on the fence over the Alfa's reliability record. A friend owned a new Giulia a few years ago and it had numerous electrical gremlins
They must have resolved all those issues in this version of Tonale. I hope that most of the maintenance can be done at a Jeep/Dodge dealer too thus cheaper maintenance cost.
I wish we could stop living in 1975. Every company can produce a lemon but the incessant Italian car reliability discussion has gotten old
2017 Giulia Quad ...custom ordered ...best car EVER'
2020 Stelvio Ti Sport....daily driver...wish I had bought the Quad but I still love my Stelvio
I could go on and on about my "Uber Quality German Car Ownership Experiences" ....
FORZA ALFA BABY !!!!
THE KING IS BACK !!!!
Glad to see a manufacturer is utilizing an electric rear axle now waiting to see if some 3rd party EV group might make an electric rear axle for existing FWD EVs as long as they could get access to the vehicles software. Anyway, good looking car nicely done and looks better than the Hornet.
Very interesting offering. Will have to see the pricing.
Starting at $43k.
It’s totally worth it.
The amount of incorrect information being provided in this video is just sad. The most egregious being the 20 inch wheels being described as 19 inch wheels at 2:32 when the presenter is kneeling next to the wheel where the size of both tire and wheel is right there next to him on the sidewall. This can be read on the tire at 18:10 with the size being 235/40/ZR20. It doesn't get any better from there with the only mistake getting caught in editing being the grossly incorrect curb weight he quoted. C'mon man, you gotta do better than this.
As the 'My Way' crew once said while dubbing over an Xmen Animated Series episode.. "This is a Dodge.".
Oh no... Now he dresses like Alex now too?
That legroom numbers of Stelvio are obviously a typo.
Hornet is the same vehicle but cost less
Please, $2,200 for a paint is not “worth every penny” :)
Never mind. It will be in pennies extra when these green will hit the used market.
I don't understand why people love suv's I had 2018 explorer and I traded it for my new lexus es 350 . That's my first suv and last cars are so much better and if you have 45 kids get a mini van
Is it $20,000 more stylish?
Toyota did a subtle but nice job on the new RAV-4
58k Dodge Hornet which is a 28k Jeep Compass. Pass. Maybe the Hornet is the deal
Manual transmission option?
For what? It's not a sports car.
@@bigmacdaddy1234yeah exactly so the 2 people that think they want it won't actually buy it.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 It doesn't have to be a sports car to have a manual transmission. My daily car is a manual, and it's not a sports car.
I would fully understand if it was an option that should be ordered from the factory, not just a sample at the dealership. But for there not to be a manual transmission alternative makes no sense.
@@themoviebay My 2 cars are manuals. I don't buy automatics.
In an era where the same vehicle has different types of engines, different types of seats, trim, equipment, wheels, and many more customizable things. Why can't I choose to have a manual transmission?
To give an example within Alfa Romeo, the Gulia in all trims is also offered with manual transmission in Europe, which is not the case in the United States.
As I said in the other answer, I would fully understand if it was an option that one should order from the factory. But an option after all.
@@faygox955 It's a grocery getter soccer mom car. Why would it need a manual transmission?
Not bashing the car at all cuz I think it's beautiful,, but if you're honest with yourself you know people have already pronounced it "Toenail"! 😆
I can’t believe they picked that name for the US
Yikes. 30 electric miles and 302 total range miles? seems anemic for the segment. My 20 year old accord gets 400 miles range.
Plug in hybrids, especially in the luxury segment, lose range as part of the trade in getting the flexibility. My wife's 5 series phev has total like 320 whereas the regular 4cyl has closer to 500.
It’s not a RAV4 of course it’s going to be more expensive.
Why wouldn't I get a Rav 4 prime?
Because the Alfa is cooler, drives better, more luxurious inside
The rav4 is way overrated, overpriced, noisy, sloppy handling, cheaply built interior
The Alfa is the emotional choice, maybe not the smarter choice. The RAV4 isn’t fun at all and the Alfa is better to drive and has a nicer interior. Reliability is a concern though.
I'm sure the Rav4 Prime is the perfect car for you B, but for non-boring people who want a car that's actually FUN and exciting, might want to consider the Alfa.
Nice Italian bro lol
What is a shoulder driver??!
He meant "elbow driver", meaning one who rests their elbow on the center console.
Check out the Big Brain on Brian! Teaching Italian Grammar.
WTH PHEV only??? That drivetrain is an outdated compliance version for old EU laws that already changed in most countries. Garbage. With only this drivetrain option the whole model is doomed to fail already.
Ok. An Alfa Romeo with a bland powertrain and limited driving feel and even brake by wire. I know why I’ve always had a desire to buy a 164 to augment the briefly enjoyable mistake I made buying a Bi-Turbo for a month. But this doesn’t have all the passion that makes you have some momentary madness putting up with the unreliable nightmare that owning Italian cars generally is.
This is not only lacking that ‘passion’, and I can get this not-passionate piece of junk as a Dodge and have $20k in my pocket to cover some of the maintenance cost. If this does well, my already impressive opinion of American stupidity will get notched up pretty danged high.
ok bruh lol
This is not an attractive vehicle in my eyes. And I am half Italian. In fact, I cannot think of anything less attractive on the market.
So, people are fine with this being a rebadged Hornet? The Tonale came first. But still. Let me guess "it's the execution." 😃
Stellantis management screwed Alfa Romeo on this car - way too many common parts between this and the Hornet.
The hornet is a rebadged Alfa is been in Europe for two years to great reviews and no Alfa is not happy about stelantis giving it to dodge
@@michaelrice4861 You are correct in what you say except the Tonale is in its first year of sales in Europe, not the second.
Dodge toe nail? Funny name.
I don't like it
You can't afford it anyway.
My toe nails aren't nearly as pretty. Top toe nail style.
Hybrid...yuk
😂 go back to the 1900s, ya freak
@@FuncleChuck 1900s were a pretty good time in America. Better than today.
Toenail