"The good days are back" never been more true. I built my first pc late 2018. R5 2600 and an rx 580. Still going strong, I'm just glad I can finally upgrade without selling a kidney.
I just got a r5 5600 for 132$ USD after tax at microcenter. If these types of deals can be found, it is an absolute steal. I am loving the performance.
@@milestailprower My country doesn't even have microcenter since I'm from a mid EU country, 5600 is like 230 $ here with VAT included. 12400F is about the same and thats my upgrade path or maybe a 13400 in the future, currently using a i3 12100F but for now its plenty enough for all my needs so its fine.
This video makes me very happy. For myself and my wife, and most of my gaming friends, if a CPU can always hit 60 FPS at 1089P, then it is a gaming CPU.
Depends on the games really, if you're mainly playing story games and stuff like that at 60fps then you might as well go for a beefier gpu and cheaper cpu at 1440p as the CPU won't be utilized as much as the GPU is. If you're playing shooters or any competitive game you want the highest possible FPS that is also as stable as possible.
Thank you for being the reviewer to finally making me feel good about purchasing a Ryzen 5500 and B450 (just last month - under $400 CAD with 1TB M.2). Every other review kept saying it wasn't good value, but for me it was shockingly affordable to get my first Ryzen, DDR4 and NVME capable computer. I've been just "getting by" for years with Intel Gen 2, 3, and 4 systems for years and now I've finally got a system that has some real performance.
@@yui_chan298 thanks for the info, though i want to also ask if its still worth buying the 5600 over the 5500 if my motherboard doesn't support pcie 4.0? Are there any selling points?
Nice vid and i just want to also point out that a common problem people say is that you get more FPS or larger cache. A LOT of people fail to realize is that you are comparing them with a 3080TI and people with a high end GPU dont really play at 1080P and LOW. So once you stick with mid range options like 6600 or 3060 then a 5500 is nearly identical already to the others. Others also state that but its not the max performance. And I ask them do you even have a Monitor that can handle 300 FPS. Most people buying this are probably just going to have 60-75Hz
Been loving your videos since the old days, I was looking at getting the 5500 the other day and you've convinced me! Been running a i7 2600 system for wayyyy too long and its affecting my nice new gpu now. Hope all is well looking forward to more helpful videos like this!
That will be a good upgrade. I had a 5GHz 2700K for a long time, switched to a 5600X last Sept. (before the 5500/5600 launched), but if I was buying now it'd be between the 5500 or 5600 for sure, either is good. I'm using a B450, don't play games that would benefit from PCIe 4.0, and my GPU is only 3.0 anyway (1080 Ti). You should see a solid bump from your 5500; depends on the game, resolution, settings, etc., but in general it should be substantial.
@@mapesdhs597 I'm spewing I got a rx6600xt for 750AUD in January and not the 6700xt is around that price 😭😭. But I wouldn't have been able to play 1440p and even 1080p the gtx1060 is getting slower. Thanks for your advice 🤝
I like how when there is no winner for the cpu, every buyer is the winner no matter what cpu they buy. It only depends on your situation if you already have a motherboard or buying 2nd hand with tight budget etc.
Most of the times it's better to look for 2nd hand deals as you can get more performance for your budget. I was going to buy a brand new rtx 3050 for around £300(literally everything else was out of stock) until I found someone locally selling a 6600xt for £250 so I put in the extra cash into the build and found myself an ex display phanteks p360a mesh for £40. I was also recently able to get a used i3 12100f for £50 and a new msi h610m-k d4 for £55. Spent £515 in total for the whole build including ram + storage + 2 extra case fans + 650w psu and yet to sell my old parts. People been saying you can't build a PC near the performance of a PS5 for near the cost but I disagree.
@@christopherjames9843 So everyone should buy brand new cars, bikes, clothes because it's a gamble otherwise? Everything is a gamble, it's just how you play your cards that matters.
@@christopherjames9843 CPUs? no. CPUs last really long to have issues buying used. Storage is something you should avoid getting used. Just get stuff from places which have buyer protection or if buying off people- test the parts out Imo saving 100$+ on a system is worth the risk and work
@@VexxedSR Stop giving bad advice dude. Buying new is always the best choice for the general public. Long terms warranties, short term unconditional guarantees, reliable seller at all times, 100% scam free, etc. If some kid from a poor neighborhood has been saving for months to get a gaming pc, I'd really have to be a douche to direct said person to the used market where they could mess up and potentially lose most of their money trying to fix the process. Used market is for those few people who know what they are doing and is not worth mentioning such a market here.
@Lurch7861 Actually AMD is supporting 5000 series on B350 boards. Quite a few manufacturers put out BIOS updates. Good if you already had a board. Buying new a B450 is still the budget sweet spot in my opinion.
I' ve used a 5600G which is basically a 5500 with an igpu, and I can tell you that the memory controller on those chips is a no joke. I mean using a ddr4 4200 cl16 is like a dream. Now I'm using a 5700G, and I've became mr. 8 cores all day every day, but pair the the Ryzen5 5500 with something like a 2080Ti - which is a pcie 3.0 card, and you are good to go yor years. Arigato TYC San!
@@topmech71 Mine is on a b450, but it is a Samsung b-die memory (3200 Cl 14). On the 5600G my ideal setting was 4133 cl 16 16 16, 1T command rate with gear down mode enabled. You can play with finding the ideal settings on secondary timings, and if you use the igpu for gaming, it's totally worth it, but if you use mainly a dedicated gpu, then fine tuning the memory for days might not worth your time. My voltage settings was: mem vddio: 1.45, mem vtt: 0.725, SOC voltage: 1.5. Now, the latter sounds extremely high compare to other Zen architectures recommended value, but on these chips, it's fine, and helps for stabilizing memory and the igpu's frequency. Speaking of, the ideal igpu freq was 2400 with ~1.3 - 1.35 APU GFX voltage, but 2500 was also achievable with fine tuning and higher voltage. Hope it helps. (but be aware, if your memory is not a Samsung b-die, your oc will probably not be this high)
Just upgraded to a 5500 from a 2600 last month. And it's definitely noticeable performance difference even with a simple task like opening an app. Yeah, i just refuse to pay 35% more for a 5600. BTW i'm using an X370 mobo. What a beautiful thing that we can drop a new CPU on a 5 year old mobo. good times. thanks AMD
Yeah, I had a 2600 and upgraded to a 5600 though, did a simple test with original crysis, so single core performance would be most important, with same memory , graphics card went from 125fps with 2600 , to 240fps (!) With 5600, so pretty impressive increase.....
I upgraded to a 5500 from a xeon 5650! lol, huge upgrade with a low price! it only cost 76.74 usd, and 5600x cost 200 % of it lol. I can overclock 5500 to suppress 5600x if needed.
Indeed, I've noticed used 3600s keep selling for surprisingly high amounts on ebay. Checking Amazon, Scan, etc. recently I was shocked how expensive the 5600 was, ditto other options.
@@mapesdhs597 Similar story here across the ditch. 3600 still too expensive (€145) and the 5600 is way overpriced (€215, as opposed to €135 for the 5500)
With smart access memory and a 6700xt the 5500 will be a banger setup for gaming even on a b450 board with gen 3.. much cheaper than a 12th gen setup with an rtx card
@@ZackSNetwork You don't know what are talking about for real and just repeating stupid people's stupud talks. R5 5500 a520 system with 4133-4400 ram is the best value system right now.
its insane to watch my r5 3600 going for under 90€ already.. and nobody wanna buying it.. i just upgraded to a 5800x for 200€ used and im happy with my high increase in fps like warzone (rx 6800 gpu) from 110 to 140fps steady
lol I wish it was that cheap here, it's still €145 here, which is pretty silly. It was €160 in 2020, then the 5600X launched at literally double the price so everyone wanted the cheaper 3600, causing 3600 prices to go through the roof. Now a few months ago, it finally dropped to €160 again for the first time in 2 years...
just upgraded a friends pc that went from a ryzen 1400 to a 5500 and he is over the moon with the performance increase for the money, sure it's not as good as the 5600 but like you pointed out on a gen3 motherboard the price difference doesn't really make sense
@@adrianafamilymember6427 If you have hardware capable of utilising PCIE 4.0 (and/or the need for the speed of PCIE 4.0), you're not buying an I3 12100F to begin with.
I'd love to see how the R5 3600 fits in here! I just built a used system with an R5 3600, and I have to say, it's a beast for photo editing and gaming. Quite the upgrade over my old i7-3770s system lol! And I only paid about $170USD for the 3600 w/cooler + a B450 Steel Legend mobo a few months back.
It's slower, even 3600x is slower and also they have way worse mem controller and infinity fabric than the 5500, and about the pci-e gen.4 it's not really needed on a budget system, while fast tight ram is always good.
@@chovekb HUB just did a comparison and actually found them pretty similar! Looks like the 5500 is only marginally faster, but in some situations that are more cache intensive, the 3600 takes it.
As a side note, if you are on tight on a budget to go for a 5500, remember not to pair it with a 6500XT/6400 GPU! I believe that is the bizarre situation where the PCIe 3.0 would cause a significant performance drop. Also as a side note, I think these CPUs are better tested with something like a 6600/3060 to show how much little performacne difference is there instead of a 3080 which is probably more than the cost of everything else in the build.
why i got a i7 10700K for 250$ that does more then i need it too and then sum with 32gb ram for 150$ CL16 ripjaws and a RTX 2070 super ... only now too upgrade is GPU when prices plummet when RTX 4000 is released ... i get 250FPS 1440p now regularly in warzone ect
Depends on the games, some have no performance hit but from sources on toms hardware it looks like you'd be seeing an average performance drop of 7% with the 6500xt but depends if the games are vram heavy like borderlands 3, if so you're looking at up to 25% performance drop when using pcie 3.0 over 4.0. Same with the 6600, 6600xt but with generally less performance loss.
@@VexxedSR but if i now have a ryzen 3600 and want a ryzne 5 5500 am i gonna see any different in the pci speeds? i dont even know what speeds it runs now with my aorus x570 mobo
@@reggiexp69 if the motherboard supports pcie 4.0 then you should be good. I'd recommend waiting for ryzen 7000 series cpus as it might be more future proof as it'll feature pcie 5.0, ddr5 and around a 15% performance boost. If you find a good deal for the 5600/5600x then that's a really good option too.
@@frankstared 2600 definitely can....it has the TPM. I think the 1600 is too old. My 1700 was a no go, did an even trade with somebody for the 2600. Speed was about the same so wasnt really an upgrade. Just enabled me to officially run Windows 11. Now I have a 5600 and am quite happy with it for $160.
@@johnw4067 Well done. I went with the 10100f and b560 with ram at 3500. Multi is quite poor but the single threaded perform rocks and win11 is rock solid, too. No regrets two months in and was quite happy that I was able to get board and cpu for under 150 usd. I can upgrade to a 11400 in the future plus have two empty mem slots.
I think many people looking at the R5 5500 will be looking at 1080p gaming …. Maybe a little 1440p as well. But in all honesty, budget friendly CPUs like this will be used with a GTX970 / 1060 / 1650 / 1660 or Rx 580 / 6600 / 6600XT and a few maybe a higher GPU so the GPU performance between all will be negligible. I personally have a higher end system, but I get grilled for using NVME PCI-E 3.0 storage and additional high capacity SATA SSDs for my game library etc instead of NVME 4.0 for gaming and storage. Also, here in Australia 4.0 drives are noticeably higher in price than 3.0 drives and I only do a little in the way of photo editing and just starting to get into video editing of home movies and my drives are more than fast enough and tbh …. For gaming a 4.0 drives may save you 1-3 seconds at best gaming load time's and Direct Storage is still years away from main adoption and use by the masses. I got my NVME 3.0 drives and high capacity SATA SSDs on killer sales deals new and just left me not needing to waste extra $$$$ for a the additional speed I don’t benefit from and I also got much larger capacities as well 🥰🥰
The 5500 is really cheap when compared to the 5600 like 1k difference in my currency but personally i say it's worth it. I don't think the 5500 is by all means weak and it's really budget friendly(it came in cheaper than what my 2600 non x cost back in 2018). It can also game fine in 1080p and even higher. Where it wouldn't matter between the cpu's is is if you actually pair it with a realistic gpu like a 6600 or rtx 3060. The performance will be negligible .
You should make a video on power unlocking the RX 6600 (non XT) with igor's lab's MorePowerTool and overclocking it. Then compare it overclocked to a 3060 etc.
I got the ryzen 9 3900x for $100. Rtx 2080 super for $200. 16gb ddr4 3000mhz ram for $10. 1tb nvme ssd for $43 brand new too. Pc case $20. My motherboard b550 was $20. Used price performance is where it's at!!
Yeah that summary was spot on when you said the good times are back. They probably won't last so long, so best to buy now if you don't plan to buy a new platform from AMD or Intel, meaning next gen.
I said this already on HUB. But I still wanna spread it here. Unless 3600 is 10-20% cheaper than 5500, then 5500 always be the better buy than 3600, especially if you are really into RAM OC. With monolithic 7nm die (combined IO die and Core compute die), 5500 FCLK can clock like 2200mhz easily with 1.2v SOC (recommend is 1.1v, 1.2v is the last 'safe' borderline). 4400mhz RAM sound good? No Vermeer chip (5000 series with full cache) can do 2200mhz FCLK. So this is Cezanne advantage. Upcoming Ryzen 7000 use 6nm+, so I think FCLK can clock as high as 2600mhz or more to support DDR5-5200 or higher by default. Or something like 1900 FCLK but UCLK and MCLK is double FCLK for an integer synchronize. With 1900x4, well, DDR5-7600
I'm still quite happy with my Ryzen 5 2600X, with 16 gigs of decent ram and nvme SSD it is a very quick machine, have a RX570 8gb too which I can play some hardcore stuff at still some highish settings and looks abs brilliant. I think next CPU iteration will be a Ryzen 7 with a igpu onboard when my 570 becomes seriously out of date.
Why not the 2620v3 or 2666v3? 10/30 usd for 6 or 10 cores that can play whatever at playable framerates and cheap mobos with TBU. Its well over 50% the performance of the 5500 at 1/6th the cost,
These cheap aliexpress mobos are kinda shit and dont last long and buying a decent x99 mobo will cost you more than a r5 5600 tbh, thats if you can even find one coz they keep dying recently
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Here are some other two options you got as a consumer: 5600G & I3 12100f 1. 5600G the same as the 5500 but faster and integrated graphics so you could justify an older gen card 2. I3 12100f same performance as 5500 has PCIE 4.0 also more L3 cache
just upgraded to a 5500 from a 3500 (i got a a320m), where i live the 5600 is $190 and the 5500 $120 so i just decided to go with the 5500 because 5600 is too expensive for too little performance improvement, if i were to buy a 5600, i should aswell just buy a r7 5700x instead, since it is going for $220
I bought i5 10400F with 16GB RAM paired with Gigabyte EAGLE RTX 3060 OC 12GB GDDR6... I was on bare minimum BUDGET, so I went with ASRock H470M-HVS which is @2666MHz of RAM frequency, but in the end I am more than satisfied.... What do you think(say)?? I am just waiting for my next pay, so I can swtich from this old 1080p to some cheap new 1440p, to extent the power of this machine, to the maximum... PEACE OUT, MATE!!
Great video. Would be good to have a second set of benchmarks with a more budget orientated GPU that would make a reasonable pairing for the CPUs, such as the 6600XT you mentioned. What do you think of the 12100F and 10400F as budget options ? Do they compare well with the 5500 when you have a sensible GPU pairing such as the 6600XT ?
Thanks for the video. What do you think of this combination? AMD Ryzen 5 5500 PROCESSOR MSI A520M A PRO MOTHERBOARD GTX 1660 6GB Any bottleneck or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
A lot of people overlook one important thing... different currencies different prices. Where I live for the price of an R5 5600 I can get an R5 5500, 16GB 3600 RAM and a cheap cooler like the Arctic Freezer 34. As an alternative you can get a R5 5500 a cheap mobo when on promo and 16GB 3600/3200 RAM. Btw all the items I mention are new, so if you go with 2nd hand with the price difference you can get some nice extra stuff. Another option is if you get an R5 5500 and you were going to buy an RX 6600 for example with the extra cash you can now take an RX 6600 XT. So while the R5 5600 is definitely better, the R5 5500 have it's place.
you should have given us a Price/performance chart in this video... Thankfully I know how to use excel :D With pricing in germoney (125 € for the 5500 and 189€ for the 5600 (right now it is 195 but it should coem down again very soon)) and using you test results the 5500 has a price/perfomance of 1,71 and the 5600 1,295. Which is a landslide vicory for the 5500 imo. Thanks for the video I just ordered the 5500 yesterday to replace my 2600x. I cant wait to push my micron rev-e on the IMC there .
as a 2600x owner who wants to upgrade, what i think is the problem for 5500 is the placement. if i want to upgrade i would want some significant enough change to justify my spending. 5500 is roughly the same performance as 3600, and to make it worse, the same price (where i live). this makes me lean towards 5600 since the 'significant' gain i want to experience will likely be with 5600 instead of 5500. also, getting 5500 will be an extra hassle for me as i still am on b450 board without zen 3 bios support. so if i want to upgrade without any hassle, i'll get 3600 and if i want to upgrade for some 'significant' uplift to performace, 5600 is the obvious choice. sorry i left out 12400 since buying one means i have to spend for 2 items instead of one. on that note, for someone who has way older machine and/or wants to have new pc from scratch i think 5500 can compete **IF** the price is lower than 3600, 5600, and 12400 (of any variant)
I guess you should also be asking, do you *need* a 6 core CPU? A lot of people gaming will be happy with an i3 12100F, and can wait to upgrade when needs be. Even though there are already videos comparing the i3 12100F and the 5500, I'd love to see a your comparison with the 12100F and the 5500. It's always useful to go back and look at the value when street pricing changes. I would advise against a 5500 if someone is going with a 6500XT as a stopgap GPU. 4 PCIe lanes has shown performance degradation at PCIe 3.0 vs 4.0. PCIe 4.0 may matter more in the future as GPU makers try to shave costs on their budget GPUs with limited PCIe lanes. That being said, "future proofing" can be a bit of a fool's errand because it's all guesswork. Thank you for your video as always!
Imo, Pre-Owned is the way to go, and that's my motto, I just picked up a Ryzen 5 5600x on the used market for only $145 complete in box with cooler, I would absolutely recommend finding good deals on the used market for a 5600x or a 7 3700x-3800x CPU, get it for less than $160 and you won't have to worry about any sacrifices whatsoever, you get both the best performance and value,
Xeon e5 2640 v3 is good value. Motherboards on the other hand are a different story but some of the chinese salvaged motherboards are getting better and better.
those are good but we are getinng to the point where cheap second hand 6 cores cps such as the 3600 or 10400 are too good to pass coupled with cheap motherboards. newer, less power draw, safer and up to date instructions, efficient.
Yep, I have just recently built an E5 1650 V2 rig with a RX 6600 XT. Its great for COD, I also have an HP 440 running an E5 2640 V3 with a RTX 3050 and 32 gig of memory. Solid performer!
I have the Ryzen 5600G in my machine and love it..... the MSRP on the Ryzen 5600G is $259.00 I got mine back in January for $212.00! it always is important to do your research before you buy! I wanted to stay with a quad core system but went with the hex-core processor because of the pricing....
It's still the best value cpu in general, even better than the 5500, cause of the igpu. I got a 5600G machine too, running it with 4133 cl 16-16-16 ram in 1:1 on a b450 aorus pro mboard with pbo2+co at 4650mhz all cores and it's amazing performance for the value xD
@@chovekb I preferer an APU over a regular CPU. I normally will add a 2GB GPU on a system that needs one, or on a older system that has less than 1GB of shared memory... the shared memory on a Ryzen APU is 2GB and that works fine for most applications.
Over here in Bangladesh, pricing for pc parts is a bit high, I had to pick between r5 3600 (210$) vs r5 5500 (190$) and I went with the 5500 and it's a pretty good cpu even for the elevated price here.
Got the Ryzen 5 5600 for $159 this was perfect I pulled the Ryzen 5 3600 that was in that PC and put it in another PC that had a Ryzen 3 2200g so now I have 2 nice little computers. I love budget builds great hobby.
I did the same thing.. I had a 3600xt and on my sons birthday I built him a new computer. I bought a 5600 and switch out my 3600xt and put it in his. At the time I was thinking about the 5500 or 5600. And with me the "Wonder if I should have spent a few dollars more" would have bugged me for months, so I just went with the 5600. Both are working great all is good. My upgrade shows a little but his upgrade from a fx 8320e to a 3600xt is like night and day.
Coming from someone with a 5600X, it's straight up not possible to notice the difference between a 5500 and a 5600 outside of benchmarking. But if you put that extra coin into peripherals like a better monitor, you definitely would notice the improvement. Unless you just absolutely cannot tolerate leaving CPU performance on the table, I'd invest the extra coin elsewhere.
I just built two identical R5 5600 mini itx builds. NR200P cases. Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX, Corsair SF600 80 Plus Platinum, 32 Gigabytes of ram and both with RX 580's I had laying around. Love them.
I have had a Ryzen 7 2700 +RTX 2060, and I bought a Ryzen 3 3200G Mini ITX System for Back-Up. It turned out that the Ryzen 3 System on a B 320 Bord 16G Ram, can play all of my games ( I am an older Casual-Gamer ) and is fast enough for my everyday needs. So I sold my Main System, bought a 400 € Ryzen 5 5600G System with 32GB Ram B 520 undervolted it 0,2 V, and have only 50W Max Power draw. For my 1080P Gaming absolutely Perfect and absolute Silent because I have set the Fans on the Lowest Level. I reach it after 10 Min. Stresstest 74 C, perfect. Then I Chanced my BDS to POP OS and for more than 1 Year I enjoy inaudible and Powerefficent PC use. I guess most people have no need to have a Grafikcard or more than 6 Core-CPUs beside their Gismos in their Heads. Kind Regards from Germany
This would make more sense if you test the 5500 on the lowest spec motherboard it can work in , not sure if it works in a chipset below b450 but if it does then it makes even more sense
I totally agree with you, the performance delta from the 5500 and 5600 is only noticeable on higher end GPU's, and the PCI-E 3 VS 4 is barely noticeable, only giving marginal gains on top tier GPU's, even on storage isn't very noticeable, there is a video that Linus made about SATA vs GEN 3 NVME and GEN 4, most people couldn't even notice the diference between SATA and NVME, so imagine on PCI-E 3 VS 4.
5600 is like $125 and the 12400 (with IGPU) is $135 with coupon at my Microcenter. Though personally im interested in how low the 5900X will go when Ryzen 7000 releases, it is already $345
Damn, those are some low prices. Here the 5500 is €135, 5600 €215 and 5600G €180. The 12400 is €215 and 12400F €195, but B450 is €30 shipped while LGA1700 starts at €90 shipped. AM4 board €30 and LGA1700 board €80. Makes the 5500 the most attractive option here, IMO.
@@HazewinDog The issue is that these are only available in physical brick & mortar stores. Fortunately im near one of only 25 but this scenario might not be for others
If your going to test CPU you should test them in 4x games like civilization. As you may save a second or two on large games, waiting for CPU to do their turn.
At 1080p how many people are going to notice the difference in these 3 CPUs while playing a game with the FPS benchmark info off? Serious something I read in Maximum PC several years ago eluded to this and the benchmark trap.
For last decade been using AMD FX8320. One week ago, I bought a used Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E motherboard & Intel i7 8700 non K variant for $50 dollars total. Before that was able to snag a EVGA EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB for $40 dollars. While the i7 8700 is not fast compare to the new stuff out on the market. It does offer me a nice improvement in both single core & multicore performance over the FX8320 I been using.
Honestly at it’s current price it’s not a horrible buy, it’s just wild that a Ryzen 3 3100 came with features this didn’t. At release price it was only about $15 cheaper, current price is rather reasonable
I like 5500 my question is i have AMD Ryzen 5 3500 6 core processor and GIGABYTE B450 AORUS ELITE with GIGABYTE 1650 super 16 gb ram 1 stick ram how can I improve my performance love from India. Thanks
Hello sir ...Please help me ... if the A320m s2h from gigabyte will be compatible with R5 4650g ? ...please help me because I'm afraid if will be high temperature or i will get low performance... thank you very much
I'm with you man. The extra performance is nice, but if it comes at much of a premium, it ain't worth it. Plus, you'd be a fool not to go with B450 over B550 for ANY budget build IMO. Not sure if it's the same in AUS or the US, but B450 boards have been available BRAND NEW for
I actually don't like Intel 12th gen until prices drop more, but I do like the 5500 (€135) and 5600G (€180). the 5600 is €215 here, which is too much of a premium IMO. I also like the 10105F (€80, same price as 10100F) and 10400F (€135).
Hey bryan! thanks for sharing this video in giving ideas for Ryzen 5 5500. I hope you get build something can install Windows 11 at the minimum hardware requirement. thanks again.
Which option is better: getting a Ryzen 7 5600G now and possibly upgrading to an RX 6600 later, or starting with a Ryzen 5 5500 and an RX 6600 with plans to upgrade the processor later? Also, is using an integrated GPU alongside a dedicated GPU problematic, or is it a good idea? I'll mainly be using Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Blender, and After Effects.
interesting. i always thought you'd need gen 4 to be future proof but as you say, need a b550... can snap up a 5500 cheaper and use a budget mobo. maybe can upgrade my 2700 for better single core if i flip my old rig.
2700 to 5500 would be an awesome jump in single threaded performance! I personally bought a 2700X some years ago, but returned it for a 3600 (same price) pretty quick, due to my main game being single threaded. Performance increased substantially.
@@lookitsrain9552 not exactly that. Simply put, vector graphics of modern APIs(starting from DX10) mean that your image is gonna be scaled to whatever resolution you desire to. "Colour-painting" of it's surfaces with textures shall give your videocard a harder time as your paint would weight more for thet extra wall mileage and thus, your CPU should be "OP" and more often than not "chillin'nwaitin' for that slowpoke graphics card". A margin for CPU to antialiasing is almost unnoticeable while scaling up the res so you simply get yourself in "GPU-bound" situation
The good times are back, baby! People living in internet comments just love to argue and zoom into weirdly case-specific points and make their whole evening about it haha. Always funny, cos you tech RUclipsrs call em out all the time.
i3 12100 is cheaper than the 5500 and performs just as good as the 5500 in games, plus you get gen 4 and a newer platform that has another generation on the way. Ryzen 5500 is not the move
"So you have probably been wondering and if you haven't been wondering then you may not have been wondering to the point that you may start wondering" damn let that sink in
im using a R5 3600 :D this processor is more than enough to game. R5 3600 + b450 (msi) + RX6500XT (PciE 3) were around 10percent slower than the R53600+b550+6500XT(PciE 4) You dont really need PciE 4 for esports games. for other games it depends i would say edit: using SAM ( smart acces memory ) can do 10% in general too ( bothe PciE 3 and 4 ) but it can go even higher but this again , depends on the game
"The good days are back" never been more true.
I built my first pc late 2018. R5 2600 and an rx 580. Still going strong, I'm just glad I can finally upgrade without selling a kidney.
Same with me except I have a 2700. Upgraded to an rx6600xt and no bottleneck at all at 1080p max settings on my 120hz monitor.
I got the same but with a 1600 AF and a 4gb RX 580.
@@ToddandRaquiForrest do you have pci e 3.0 ? then you will have some bottleneck here and there
You should be ashamed of yourself. Someone could really use that kidney you know.
I just got a r5 5600 for 132$ USD after tax at microcenter. If these types of deals can be found, it is an absolute steal. I am loving the performance.
Nice deal son.
@@kumarsamaksha7207 Watch your language sandwich boy
I wish there was a Microcenter near me! 😭
I used to live in an area that had one.
@@milestailprower
My country doesn't even have microcenter since I'm from a mid EU country, 5600 is like 230 $ here with VAT included.
12400F is about the same and thats my upgrade path or maybe a 13400 in the future, currently using a i3 12100F but for now its plenty enough for all my needs so its fine.
Too bad micro center sucks because they have no locations in Wisconsin
This video makes me very happy. For myself and my wife, and most of my gaming friends, if a CPU can always hit 60 FPS at 1089P, then it is a gaming CPU.
Depends on the games really, if you're mainly playing story games and stuff like that at 60fps then you might as well go for a beefier gpu and cheaper cpu at 1440p as the CPU won't be utilized as much as the GPU is. If you're playing shooters or any competitive game you want the highest possible FPS that is also as stable as possible.
That's such a stupid logic. Almost any cpu from the last 10years can do that.
@@mesicek7 never change, youtube
@@VexxedSR This is true, I don't play any competitive shooters.
@@bobzar77 What are you trying to say?
Thank you for being the reviewer to finally making me feel good about purchasing a Ryzen 5500 and B450 (just last month - under $400 CAD with 1TB M.2). Every other review kept saying it wasn't good value, but for me it was shockingly affordable to get my first Ryzen, DDR4 and NVME capable computer. I've been just "getting by" for years with Intel Gen 2, 3, and 4 systems for years and now I've finally got a system that has some real performance.
Yea, you can get one for $98 right now. Insanely cheap and work great. Everyone now adays are spoiled brats.
Im going for same cpu mobo combo but feeling bad that ill lose on pcie 4.0
@@RavenHart-sx8xsdoes the b450 even support pcie 4.0?
@@prisma8630 no b550 and up support 4.0...
also 5500 does not support 4.0
@@yui_chan298 thanks for the info, though i want to also ask if its still worth buying the 5600 over the 5500 if my motherboard doesn't support pcie 4.0? Are there any selling points?
Nice vid and i just want to also point out that a common problem people say is that you get more FPS or larger cache. A LOT of people fail to realize is that you are comparing them with a 3080TI and people with a high end GPU dont really play at 1080P and LOW. So once you stick with mid range options like 6600 or 3060 then a 5500 is nearly identical already to the others. Others also state that but its not the max performance. And I ask them do you even have a Monitor that can handle 300 FPS. Most people buying this are probably just going to have 60-75Hz
yeah men just pick whichever cpu is best for your budget. Not all can afford those high priced pcie 4 gpu or ssd.
Been loving your videos since the old days, I was looking at getting the 5500 the other day and you've convinced me! Been running a i7 2600 system for wayyyy too long and its affecting my nice new gpu now. Hope all is well looking forward to more helpful videos like this!
That will be a good upgrade. I had a 5GHz 2700K for a long time, switched to a 5600X last Sept. (before the 5500/5600 launched), but if I was buying now it'd be between the 5500 or 5600 for sure, either is good. I'm using a B450, don't play games that would benefit from PCIe 4.0, and my GPU is only 3.0 anyway (1080 Ti). You should see a solid bump from your 5500; depends on the game, resolution, settings, etc., but in general it should be substantial.
@@mapesdhs597 I'm spewing I got a rx6600xt for 750AUD in January and not the 6700xt is around that price 😭😭. But I wouldn't have been able to play 1440p and even 1080p the gtx1060 is getting slower. Thanks for your advice 🤝
I like how when there is no winner for the cpu, every buyer is the winner no matter what cpu they buy. It only depends on your situation if you already have a motherboard or buying 2nd hand with tight budget etc.
Most of the times it's better to look for 2nd hand deals as you can get more performance for your budget. I was going to buy a brand new rtx 3050 for around £300(literally everything else was out of stock) until I found someone locally selling a 6600xt for £250 so I put in the extra cash into the build and found myself an ex display phanteks p360a mesh for £40.
I was also recently able to get a used i3 12100f for £50 and a new msi h610m-k d4 for £55.
Spent £515 in total for the whole build including ram + storage + 2 extra case fans + 650w psu and yet to sell my old parts.
People been saying you can't build a PC near the performance of a PS5 for near the cost but I disagree.
@@VexxedSR 2nd hand is always a gamble. Not everyone is savvy enough not to get taken.
@@christopherjames9843 So everyone should buy brand new cars, bikes, clothes because it's a gamble otherwise? Everything is a gamble, it's just how you play your cards that matters.
@@christopherjames9843 CPUs? no. CPUs last really long to have issues buying used. Storage is something you should avoid getting used.
Just get stuff from places which have buyer protection or if buying off people- test the parts out
Imo saving 100$+ on a system is worth the risk and work
@@VexxedSR Stop giving bad advice dude. Buying new is always the best choice for the general public.
Long terms warranties, short term unconditional guarantees, reliable seller at all times, 100% scam free, etc.
If some kid from a poor neighborhood has been saving for months to get a gaming pc, I'd really have to be a douche to direct said person to the used market where they could mess up and potentially lose most of their money trying to fix the process.
Used market is for those few people who know what they are doing and is not worth mentioning such a market here.
Upgraded my Ryzen 5 1600 to Ryzen 5 5500 on a B350 GAMING PRO CARBON. Made a big difference and now I can upgrade to Windows 11 if I want to.
@Lurch7861 Actually AMD is supporting 5000 series on B350 boards. Quite a few manufacturers put out BIOS updates. Good if you already had a board. Buying new a B450 is still the budget sweet spot in my opinion.
I' ve used a 5600G which is basically a 5500 with an igpu, and I can tell you that the memory controller on those chips is a no joke. I mean using a ddr4 4200 cl16 is like a dream. Now I'm using a 5700G, and I've became mr. 8 cores all day every day, but pair the the Ryzen5 5500 with something like a 2080Ti - which is a pcie 3.0 card, and you are good to go yor years.
Arigato TYC San!
I actually just put a 2080ti in a custom loop that has a 5600g, im happy with it. I have stonger systems but this is plenty.
I just got a 5600g...looking to see how far I can push the memory on a b550 motherboard.
@@topmech71 Mine is on a b450, but it is a Samsung b-die memory (3200 Cl 14). On the 5600G my ideal setting was 4133 cl 16 16 16, 1T command rate with gear down mode enabled. You can play with finding the ideal settings on secondary timings, and if you use the igpu for gaming, it's totally worth it, but if you use mainly a dedicated gpu, then fine tuning the memory for days might not worth your time. My voltage settings was: mem vddio: 1.45, mem vtt: 0.725, SOC voltage: 1.5. Now, the latter sounds extremely high compare to other Zen architectures recommended value, but on these chips, it's fine, and helps for stabilizing memory and the igpu's frequency. Speaking of, the ideal igpu freq was 2400 with ~1.3 - 1.35 APU GFX voltage, but 2500 was also achievable with fine tuning and higher voltage. Hope it helps. (but be aware, if your memory is not a Samsung b-die, your oc will probably not be this high)
Just upgraded to a 5500 from a 2600 last month. And it's definitely noticeable performance difference even with a simple task like opening an app. Yeah, i just refuse to pay 35% more for a 5600. BTW i'm using an X370 mobo. What a beautiful thing that we can drop a new CPU on a 5 year old mobo. good times. thanks AMD
Yeah, I had a 2600 and upgraded to a 5600 though, did a simple test with original crysis, so single core performance would be most important, with same memory , graphics card went from 125fps with 2600 , to 240fps (!) With 5600, so pretty impressive increase.....
I upgraded to a 5500 from a xeon 5650! lol, huge upgrade with a low price! it only cost 76.74 usd, and 5600x cost 200 % of it lol. I can overclock 5500 to suppress 5600x if needed.
45% difference here in Malaysia. Kinda want 5600 for the large cache, but 5500 looks juicy for the much lower price. 😅
@@t.gchannel4067you can overclock it to reach as par 5600x?
@@FielValeryRTS yeah im planning to get 5500 @RM400 soon ,while 5600 is RM600 now/50% more,im using b450 mobo anyway
The 5600 seems to be a bit scarce in the UK and CPU's in general more expensive than the US and Australia. Even used.
Indeed, I've noticed used 3600s keep selling for surprisingly high amounts on ebay. Checking Amazon, Scan, etc. recently I was shocked how expensive the 5600 was, ditto other options.
@@mapesdhs597 Similar story here across the ditch. 3600 still too expensive (€145) and the 5600 is way overpriced (€215, as opposed to €135 for the 5500)
10400F is 85U$D brand new in my country (Argentina).
Get that that's a good price
@@NemusDark idk man Argentina's economy is kind of sus man
I'm always looking at cheaper cpu's for budget builds for others. This comparison was very useful thanks man!
Got the 5500 for 65USD in the Philippines. Insane value.
With smart access memory and a 6700xt the 5500 will be a banger setup for gaming even on a b450 board with gen 3.. much cheaper than a 12th gen setup with an rtx card
I would go with a RX 5600 XT instead probably for overall value instead of one component yielding to another
A 5500 makes no sense at all with a 6700xt. The CPU in general is not good go with a 5600.
I would go nvidia
@@ZackSNetwork I think Brian is trying to say it's good enough, nobody is disputing the 5600 is better.
@@ZackSNetwork You don't know what are talking about for real and just repeating stupid people's stupud talks. R5 5500 a520 system with 4133-4400 ram is the best value system right now.
i love my ryzens, cost and performance is great! great video!
its insane to watch my r5 3600 going for under 90€ already.. and nobody wanna buying it.. i just upgraded to a 5800x for 200€ used and im happy with my high increase in fps like warzone (rx 6800 gpu) from 110 to 140fps steady
lol I wish it was that cheap here, it's still €145 here, which is pretty silly. It was €160 in 2020, then the 5600X launched at literally double the price so everyone wanted the cheaper 3600, causing 3600 prices to go through the roof. Now a few months ago, it finally dropped to €160 again for the first time in 2 years...
just upgraded a friends pc that went from a ryzen 1400 to a 5500 and he is over the moon with the performance increase for the money, sure it's not as good as the 5600 but like you pointed out on a gen3 motherboard the price difference doesn't really make sense
Everyone's recommending the I3 12100f bc its a quad core that can manage but also it is PCIE 4.0 (not explicitly mentioned just wanna inform)
@@adrianafamilymember6427 If you have hardware capable of utilising PCIE 4.0 (and/or the need for the speed of PCIE 4.0), you're not buying an I3 12100F to begin with.
@@NegerKim I wish cursed GPU like RX 6500XT doesn't exist....
@@adrianafamilymember6427 but then he will also buy new Mobo. Its a bios upgrade to make it work
@@NegerKim were you under a rock during the 6500xt fiasco?
I'd love to see how the R5 3600 fits in here!
I just built a used system with an R5 3600, and I have to say, it's a beast for photo editing and gaming. Quite the upgrade over my old i7-3770s system lol! And I only paid about $170USD for the 3600 w/cooler + a B450 Steel Legend mobo a few months back.
Ayy we got the same mobo and processor!
That's great value. Yeah a 3600 will still last years. You can probably run it until zen 8000/9000 series
It's slower, even 3600x is slower and also they have way worse mem controller and infinity fabric than the 5500, and about the pci-e gen.4 it's not really needed on a budget system, while fast tight ram is always good.
Hardware Unboxed did just a comparison of the 5500 vs 3600 vs 5600 ruclips.net/video/4JebBhH-B88/видео.html!
@@chovekb HUB just did a comparison and actually found them pretty similar! Looks like the 5500 is only marginally faster, but in some situations that are more cache intensive, the 3600 takes it.
As a side note, if you are on tight on a budget to go for a 5500, remember not to pair it with a 6500XT/6400 GPU! I believe that is the bizarre situation where the PCIe 3.0 would cause a significant performance drop. Also as a side note, I think these CPUs are better tested with something like a 6600/3060 to show how much little performacne difference is there instead of a 3080 which is probably more than the cost of everything else in the build.
why i got a i7 10700K for 250$ that does more then i need it too and then sum with 32gb ram for 150$ CL16 ripjaws and a RTX 2070 super ... only now too upgrade is GPU when prices plummet when RTX 4000 is released ... i get 250FPS 1440p now regularly in warzone ect
Depends on the games, some have no performance hit but from sources on toms hardware it looks like you'd be seeing an average performance drop of 7% with the 6500xt but depends if the games are vram heavy like borderlands 3, if so you're looking at up to 25% performance drop when using pcie 3.0 over 4.0. Same with the 6600, 6600xt but with generally less performance loss.
@@EpicGamingEct deals are going to be different for everyone, I got 12600k for my $250
@@VexxedSR but if i now have a ryzen 3600 and want a ryzne 5 5500 am i gonna see any different in the pci speeds? i dont even know what speeds it runs now with my aorus x570 mobo
@@reggiexp69 if the motherboard supports pcie 4.0 then you should be good. I'd recommend waiting for ryzen 7000 series cpus as it might be more future proof as it'll feature pcie 5.0, ddr5 and around a 15% performance boost.
If you find a good deal for the 5600/5600x then that's a really good option too.
The Ryzen 1600 AF / 2600 is still a great match for a budget GPU on the used market!
Can they run win11?
@@frankstared They can! They have TPM 2.0.
@@frankstared 2600 definitely can....it has the TPM. I think the 1600 is too old. My 1700 was a no go, did an even trade with somebody for the 2600. Speed was about the same so wasnt really an upgrade. Just enabled me to officially run Windows 11. Now I have a 5600 and am quite happy with it for $160.
@@johnw4067 Well done. I went with the 10100f and b560 with ram at 3500. Multi is quite poor but the single threaded perform rocks and win11 is rock solid, too. No regrets two months in and was quite happy that I was able to get board and cpu for under 150 usd. I can upgrade to a 11400 in the future plus have two empty mem slots.
I think many people looking at the R5 5500 will be looking at 1080p gaming …. Maybe a little 1440p as well. But in all honesty, budget friendly CPUs like this will be used with a GTX970 / 1060 / 1650 / 1660 or Rx 580 / 6600 / 6600XT and a few maybe a higher GPU so the GPU performance between all will be negligible. I personally have a higher end system, but I get grilled for using NVME PCI-E 3.0 storage and additional high capacity SATA SSDs for my game library etc instead of NVME 4.0 for gaming and storage. Also, here in Australia 4.0 drives are noticeably higher in price than 3.0 drives and I only do a little in the way of photo editing and just starting to get into video editing of home movies and my drives are more than fast enough and tbh …. For gaming a 4.0 drives may save you 1-3 seconds at best gaming load time's and Direct Storage is still years away from main adoption and use by the masses. I got my NVME 3.0 drives and high capacity SATA SSDs on killer sales deals new and just left me not needing to waste extra $$$$ for a the additional speed I don’t benefit from and I also got much larger capacities as well 🥰🥰
Hell no
The 5500 is really cheap when compared to the 5600 like 1k difference in my currency but personally i say it's worth it. I don't think the 5500 is by all means weak and it's really budget friendly(it came in cheaper than what my 2600 non x cost back in 2018). It can also game fine in 1080p and even higher. Where it wouldn't matter between the cpu's is is if you actually pair it with a realistic gpu like a 6600 or rtx 3060. The performance will be negligible .
Oh! You should look at the multicore xeon e3 + x99 motherboards to see if they are still worth it for those on an extreme budget!
I got a e5 2650 for $75 last year, they retailed for $1200 when they were new. Best cpu purchase I’ve ever made.
You should make a video on power unlocking the RX 6600 (non XT) with igor's lab's MorePowerTool and overclocking it. Then compare it overclocked to a 3060 etc.
Second this. Considering 6600 are cheaper now than 3060's.
@@chronicle_4 that and also my run of the mill xfx swft 210 card scores 9248 in timespy after tuning it
I got the ryzen 9 3900x for $100. Rtx 2080 super for $200. 16gb ddr4 3000mhz ram for $10. 1tb nvme ssd for $43 brand new too. Pc case $20. My motherboard b550 was $20.
Used price performance is where it's at!!
Yeah that summary was spot on when you said the good times are back. They probably won't last so long, so best to buy now if you don't plan to buy a new platform from AMD or Intel, meaning next gen.
I got my 5600x for £209 its going in my new gaming PC. Upgrading from a 2400g and 1660s to a 5600x and 2070s
The i7-5930K because it is allready in my PC.
I had an 5930k 3years ago and quickly change it for a i7 5960x back then. that cpu was a monster in overclock and easy no🧢
Would love to see what the 10105 benchmarks against these three six cores am betting there is not much difference in terms of fps
@Captain_Morgan the i3 12100 beats or matches these ryzen 5 cpus too.
Can't help wondering how a 10400 or 10105F would slot into those charts.
10400 on a B560 ,, yes so can use the 3200mhz ram
I said this already on HUB. But I still wanna spread it here.
Unless 3600 is 10-20% cheaper than 5500, then 5500 always be the better buy than 3600, especially if you are really into RAM OC.
With monolithic 7nm die (combined IO die and Core compute die), 5500 FCLK can clock like 2200mhz easily with 1.2v SOC (recommend is 1.1v, 1.2v is the last 'safe' borderline).
4400mhz RAM sound good?
No Vermeer chip (5000 series with full cache) can do 2200mhz FCLK. So this is Cezanne advantage.
Upcoming Ryzen 7000 use 6nm+, so I think FCLK can clock as high as 2600mhz or more to support DDR5-5200 or higher by default. Or something like 1900 FCLK but UCLK and MCLK is double FCLK for an integer synchronize. With 1900x4, well, DDR5-7600
I'm still quite happy with my Ryzen 5 2600X, with 16 gigs of decent ram and nvme SSD it is a very quick machine, have a RX570 8gb too which I can play some hardcore stuff at still some highish settings and looks abs brilliant. I think next CPU iteration will be a Ryzen 7 with a igpu onboard when my 570 becomes seriously out of date.
Implying the integrated gpu will be enough. Just stop.
Why not the 2620v3 or 2666v3? 10/30 usd for 6 or 10 cores that can play whatever at playable framerates and cheap mobos with TBU. Its well over 50% the performance of the 5500 at 1/6th the cost,
These cheap aliexpress mobos are kinda shit and dont last long and buying a decent x99 mobo will cost you more than a r5 5600 tbh, thats if you can even find one coz they keep dying recently
your gonna start to bottleneck a 6650xt/3060 at 1080p with those cpus, not to mention upgradebility to a potential ryzen 5 5600X3d in the future
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My i7 5820k: don't you dare!...
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So... if I have a b450 board, and a mid range card, should I pick the 5500? it's currently $92 dollars new in my country, 5600 is $130
Here are some other two options you got as a consumer: 5600G & I3 12100f
1. 5600G the same as the 5500 but faster and integrated graphics so you could justify an older gen card
2. I3 12100f same performance as 5500 has PCIE 4.0 also more L3 cache
Pog video, the content your pouring while your in Japan is insane
The 12400f can be overclocked soon with the new MSI board that is coming out this year later down this road.
And you've only shown multiplayer titles.
And how much will that new MSI board cost? Compared to b450? Much more money.
Multiplayer titles are where high FPS is needed. And that motherboard is still not cheap.
Thank you Brian for going over these cpus
just upgraded to a 5500 from a 3500 (i got a a320m), where i live the 5600 is $190 and the 5500 $120
so i just decided to go with the 5500 because 5600 is too expensive for too little performance improvement, if i were to buy a 5600, i should aswell just buy a r7 5700x instead, since it is going for $220
I bought i5 10400F with 16GB RAM paired with Gigabyte EAGLE RTX 3060 OC 12GB GDDR6... I was on bare minimum BUDGET, so I went with ASRock H470M-HVS which is @2666MHz of RAM frequency, but in the end I am more than satisfied.... What do you think(say)?? I am just waiting for my next pay, so I can swtich from this old 1080p to some cheap new 1440p, to extent the power of this machine, to the maximum... PEACE OUT, MATE!!
Great video.
Would be good to have a second set of benchmarks with a more budget orientated GPU that would make a reasonable pairing for the CPUs, such as the 6600XT you mentioned.
What do you think of the 12100F and 10400F as budget options ? Do they compare well with the 5500 when you have a sensible GPU pairing such as the 6600XT ?
Thanks for the video.
What do you think of this combination?
AMD Ryzen 5 5500 PROCESSOR
MSI A520M A PRO MOTHERBOARD
GTX 1660 6GB
Any bottleneck or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers!
I agree with you and it is worth mentioning that the differences diminish even more with slower GPUs.
A lot of people overlook one important thing... different currencies different prices.
Where I live for the price of an R5 5600 I can get an R5 5500, 16GB 3600 RAM and a cheap cooler like the Arctic Freezer 34. As an alternative you can get a R5 5500 a cheap mobo when on promo and 16GB 3600/3200 RAM. Btw all the items I mention are new, so if you go with 2nd hand with the price difference you can get some nice extra stuff. Another option is if you get an R5 5500 and you were going to buy an RX 6600 for example with the extra cash you can now take an RX 6600 XT.
So while the R5 5600 is definitely better, the R5 5500 have it's place.
you should have given us a Price/performance chart in this video...
Thankfully I know how to use excel :D With pricing in germoney (125 € for the 5500 and 189€ for the 5600 (right now it is 195 but it should coem down again very soon)) and using you test results the 5500 has a price/perfomance of 1,71 and the 5600 1,295. Which is a landslide vicory for the 5500 imo.
Thanks for the video I just ordered the 5500 yesterday to replace my 2600x. I cant wait to push my micron rev-e on the IMC there .
as a 2600x owner who wants to upgrade, what i think is the problem for 5500 is the placement. if i want to upgrade i would want some significant enough change to justify my spending. 5500 is roughly the same performance as 3600, and to make it worse, the same price (where i live). this makes me lean towards 5600 since the 'significant' gain i want to experience will likely be with 5600 instead of 5500. also, getting 5500 will be an extra hassle for me as i still am on b450 board without zen 3 bios support. so if i want to upgrade without any hassle, i'll get 3600 and if i want to upgrade for some 'significant' uplift to performace, 5600 is the obvious choice. sorry i left out 12400 since buying one means i have to spend for 2 items instead of one.
on that note, for someone who has way older machine and/or wants to have new pc from scratch i think 5500 can compete **IF** the price is lower than 3600, 5600, and 12400 (of any variant)
I guess you should also be asking, do you *need* a 6 core CPU? A lot of people gaming will be happy with an i3 12100F, and can wait to upgrade when needs be.
Even though there are already videos comparing the i3 12100F and the 5500, I'd love to see a your comparison with the 12100F and the 5500. It's always useful to go back and look at the value when street pricing changes.
I would advise against a 5500 if someone is going with a 6500XT as a stopgap GPU. 4 PCIe lanes has shown performance degradation at PCIe 3.0 vs 4.0.
PCIe 4.0 may matter more in the future as GPU makers try to shave costs on their budget GPUs with limited PCIe lanes. That being said, "future proofing" can be a bit of a fool's errand because it's all guesswork.
Thank you for your video as always!
You should check out a video called "You won't need more than a I3"
Not a spammer just a recommender
Is the R5 5500 a worthy upgrade from an i7 7700? Not doing anything crazy i just need a decent secondary pc
Imo, Pre-Owned is the way to go, and that's my motto, I just picked up a Ryzen 5 5600x on the used market for only $145 complete in box with cooler, I would absolutely recommend finding good deals on the used market for a 5600x or a 7 3700x-3800x CPU, get it for less than $160 and you won't have to worry about any sacrifices whatsoever, you get both the best performance and value,
Xeon e5 2640 v3 is good value. Motherboards on the other hand are a different story but some of the chinese salvaged motherboards are getting better and better.
those are good but we are getinng to the point where cheap second hand 6 cores cps such as the 3600 or 10400 are too good to pass coupled with cheap motherboards. newer, less power draw, safer and up to date instructions, efficient.
Yep, I have just recently built an E5 1650 V2 rig with a RX 6600 XT. Its great for COD, I also have an HP 440 running an E5 2640 V3 with a RTX 3050 and 32 gig of memory. Solid performer!
Surprised you didn't include tenth gen intel core in your comparison.
I have the Ryzen 5600G in my machine and love it..... the MSRP on the Ryzen 5600G is $259.00 I got mine back in January for $212.00! it always is important to do your research before you buy! I wanted to stay with a quad core system but went with the hex-core processor because of the pricing....
It's still the best value cpu in general, even better than the 5500, cause of the igpu. I got a 5600G machine too, running it with 4133 cl 16-16-16 ram in 1:1 on a b450 aorus pro mboard with pbo2+co at 4650mhz all cores and it's amazing performance for the value xD
R5 5600G's sell everywhere for about $169 and they have been for a long time. MSRP means nothing. Especially a year or more after the diy launch.
@@christopherjames9843 yup, thats about it.... I'm always trying to find it at the lowest price... I paid $212.00 for mine...
@@chovekb I preferer an APU over a regular CPU. I normally will add a 2GB GPU on a system that needs one, or on a older system that has less than 1GB of shared memory... the shared memory on a Ryzen APU is 2GB and that works fine for most applications.
@@johnstancliff7328 they are up to 16gb of shared memory, depends on the motherboard and the ram size.
Over here in Bangladesh, pricing for pc parts is a bit high, I had to pick between r5 3600 (210$) vs r5 5500 (190$) and I went with the 5500 and it's a pretty good cpu even for the elevated price here.
5500 supported only PCI Express® Version
PCIe 3.0.. Ryzen 3600 Pcie 4.0
I have a gtx 1060 6gb and don't plan on upgrading anytime soon as I use my pc mostly for work and media consumption
Got the Ryzen 5 5600 for $159 this was perfect I pulled the Ryzen 5 3600 that was in that PC and put it in another PC that had a Ryzen 3 2200g so now I have 2 nice little computers. I love budget builds great hobby.
I did the same thing.. I had a 3600xt and on my sons birthday I built him a new computer. I bought a 5600 and switch out my 3600xt and put it in his. At the time I was thinking about the 5500 or 5600. And with me the "Wonder if I should have spent a few dollars more" would have bugged me for months, so I just went with the 5600. Both are working great all is good. My upgrade shows a little but his upgrade from a fx 8320e to a 3600xt is like night and day.
@@timm4315 Lots of fun eh ! Love building computers. Great hobby.
0:48 Brian it's got nothing to do with that. A 4790k can play basically any game at 60fps but would you pair it with a 6700xt? Nobody would
To all the 5500 haters, I hope this video fixes your mindset on this cpu. It has its place and it’s clear. Best value hands down.
@Lurch7861 that’s not even a relative comparison.
I'm kinda content with the ryzen 5 4500 I got it for $110
Using a 6 core i7 4960X... upgraded from an i7 3960X about 8 months ago. The used 4960X cost about £45!! Really happy :0)
Too slow cores dude especially the single core performance.
I just got a 5500 and a B550 on sale. invested with NVME storage and 32GB of RAM. saving up for a nice GPU.
Thanks for the awesome comparison. Could you please recommend GPU options for 5500 and PSU also.
Coming from someone with a 5600X, it's straight up not possible to notice the difference between a 5500 and a 5600 outside of benchmarking. But if you put that extra coin into peripherals like a better monitor, you definitely would notice the improvement. Unless you just absolutely cannot tolerate leaving CPU performance on the table, I'd invest the extra coin elsewhere.
My r5 2600x is still a beast for me. They now release new cpus every new month..
still have my best buddy i7 8700 since years and it still keeps up on modern games and video edits.....
Awesome cpu
Right now, I am considering Ryzen 5 5500, ASUS Prime B450 Mark A-II, and RX 6650XT (barring further GPU price drops).
Thanks. Very informative
I just built two identical R5 5600 mini itx builds. NR200P cases. Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX, Corsair SF600 80 Plus Platinum, 32 Gigabytes of ram and both with RX 580's I had laying around. Love them.
I have had a Ryzen 7 2700 +RTX 2060, and I bought a Ryzen 3 3200G Mini ITX System for Back-Up. It turned out that the Ryzen 3 System on a B 320 Bord 16G Ram, can play all of my games ( I am an older Casual-Gamer ) and is fast enough for my everyday needs. So I sold my Main System, bought a 400 € Ryzen 5 5600G System with 32GB Ram B 520 undervolted it 0,2 V, and have only 50W Max Power draw. For my 1080P Gaming absolutely Perfect and absolute Silent because I have set the Fans on the Lowest Level. I reach it after 10 Min. Stresstest 74 C, perfect. Then I Chanced my BDS to POP OS and for more than 1 Year I enjoy inaudible and Powerefficent PC use. I guess most people have no need to have a Grafikcard or more than 6 Core-CPUs beside their Gismos in their Heads. Kind Regards from Germany
This would make more sense if you test the 5500 on the lowest spec motherboard it can work in , not sure if it works in a chipset below b450 but if it does then it makes even more sense
It works on a a320
@@raidnoir8691 Can’t get it to work on an A520M DS3H :-(
@@brehme1971 Did you check if your Bios Supports it? You need to update it the firmware
I totally agree with you, the performance delta from the 5500 and 5600 is only noticeable on higher end GPU's, and the PCI-E 3 VS 4 is barely noticeable, only giving marginal gains on top tier GPU's, even on storage isn't very noticeable, there is a video that Linus made about SATA vs GEN 3 NVME and GEN 4, most people couldn't even notice the diference between SATA and NVME, so imagine on PCI-E 3 VS 4.
5600 is like $125 and the 12400 (with IGPU) is $135 with coupon at my Microcenter.
Though personally im interested in how low the 5900X will go when Ryzen 7000 releases, it is already $345
Damn, those are some low prices. Here the 5500 is €135, 5600 €215 and 5600G €180. The 12400 is €215 and 12400F €195, but B450 is €30 shipped while LGA1700 starts at €90 shipped. AM4 board €30 and LGA1700 board €80. Makes the 5500 the most attractive option here, IMO.
@@HazewinDog The issue is that these are only available in physical brick & mortar stores. Fortunately im near one of only 25 but this scenario might not be for others
If your going to test CPU you should test them in 4x games like civilization. As you may save a second or two on large games, waiting for CPU to do their turn.
I have a 5500 on a b450 and rx 6500 xt and 32gb of 3200 and it works great for me
thats good,i just ordered the 5500 for 77usd yesterday,i have b450m mobo and rx6600xt,upgrading from r5 2600
Very useful content! Keep it up man.
I have an i5 11400f, and it's so damn great for my gaming needs. Remember when a decent processor would cost $500?
CPU came down while GPU skyrocketing.
Good choice sir
I was wondering about this 😎 ty Bryan
Very cool video alot of this stuff gets looked over for the resl budget guys!
I keep pinching myself. Only to find out that I'm still a techyescitizen. Blees ya mate love your content........ ☮️
At 1080p how many people are going to notice the difference in these 3 CPUs while playing a game with the FPS benchmark info off? Serious something I read in Maximum PC several years ago eluded to this and the benchmark trap.
For last decade been using AMD FX8320. One week ago, I bought a used Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E motherboard & Intel i7 8700 non K variant for $50 dollars total. Before that was able to snag a EVGA EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB for $40 dollars.
While the i7 8700 is not fast compare to the new stuff out on the market. It does offer me a nice improvement in both single core & multicore performance over the FX8320 I been using.
Honestly at it’s current price it’s not a horrible buy, it’s just wild that a Ryzen 3 3100 came with features this didn’t. At release price it was only about $15 cheaper, current price is rather reasonable
Thanks for answering my question! 😎
I like 5500 my question is i have AMD Ryzen 5 3500 6 core processor and GIGABYTE B450 AORUS ELITE with GIGABYTE 1650 super 16 gb ram 1 stick ram how can I improve my performance love from India. Thanks
Hello sir ...Please help me ... if the A320m s2h from gigabyte will be compatible with R5 4650g ? ...please help me because I'm afraid if will be high temperature or i will get low performance... thank you very much
I'm with you man. The extra performance is nice, but if it comes at much of a premium, it ain't worth it. Plus, you'd be a fool not to go with B450 over B550 for ANY budget build IMO. Not sure if it's the same in AUS or the US, but B450 boards have been available BRAND NEW for
I actually don't like Intel 12th gen until prices drop more, but I do like the 5500 (€135) and 5600G (€180). the 5600 is €215 here, which is too much of a premium IMO.
I also like the 10105F (€80, same price as 10100F) and 10400F (€135).
The R5 5500 is a great budget upgrade for anyone running a A320/B350/B450 with a R3 1200, R5 1400 or similar.
5500 WASTE of sand and an embarrassment
Hey bryan! thanks for sharing this video in giving ideas for Ryzen 5 5500. I hope you get build something can install Windows 11 at the minimum hardware requirement. thanks again.
Which option is better: getting a Ryzen 7 5600G now and possibly upgrading to an RX 6600 later, or starting with a Ryzen 5 5500 and an RX 6600 with plans to upgrade the processor later?
Also, is using an integrated GPU alongside a dedicated GPU problematic, or is it a good idea? I'll mainly be using Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Blender, and After Effects.
interesting. i always thought you'd need gen 4 to be future proof but as you say, need a b550... can snap up a 5500 cheaper and use a budget mobo. maybe can upgrade my 2700 for better single core if i flip my old rig.
2700 to 5500 would be an awesome jump in single threaded performance! I personally bought a 2700X some years ago, but returned it for a 3600 (same price) pretty quick, due to my main game being single threaded. Performance increased substantially.
would be interested to see 1440p numbers too. seems like 5600 could do 1440p 144hz but maybe not 5500
as resolution goes up, cpu load goes down
That would be more gpu not on cpu
@@lookitsrain9552 not exactly that. Simply put, vector graphics of modern APIs(starting from DX10) mean that your image is gonna be scaled to whatever resolution you desire to. "Colour-painting" of it's surfaces with textures shall give your videocard a harder time as your paint would weight more for thet extra wall mileage and thus, your CPU should be "OP" and more often than not "chillin'nwaitin' for that slowpoke graphics card". A margin for CPU to antialiasing is almost unnoticeable while scaling up the res so you simply get yourself in "GPU-bound" situation
The i5-12400 is the better deal, the problem is that any B660 board is going to cost you a fortune, and for that reason the R5 5600 is a better deal
As a foreigner who lives in Japan, i can relate to that. :D
The good times are back, baby! People living in internet comments just love to argue and zoom into weirdly case-specific points and make their whole evening about it haha. Always funny, cos you tech RUclipsrs call em out all the time.
I had high hopes on Amd until i heard that there will not be a windows 11 update for 2200g.
Ew, win 11 = 🗑️
Thanks for the great video
I undervolted and booster +200MHz my R5 5500 and it performs better than a R5 5600X acording to userbenchmak, passmark, and CPU-Z Bench
i3 12100 is cheaper than the 5500 and performs just as good as the 5500 in games, plus you get gen 4 and a newer platform that has another generation on the way. Ryzen 5500 is not the move
Dam spammer anyways yah
If you are already on am4 with a budget CPU, then a 5500/5600 is great. If buying new then get the i3
"So you have probably been wondering and if you haven't been wondering then you may not have been wondering to the point that you may start wondering" damn let that sink in
im using a R5 3600 :D
this processor is more than enough to game.
R5 3600 + b450 (msi) + RX6500XT (PciE 3) were around 10percent slower than the R53600+b550+6500XT(PciE 4)
You dont really need PciE 4 for esports games. for other games it depends i would say
edit:
using SAM ( smart acces memory ) can do 10% in general too ( bothe PciE 3 and 4 ) but it can go even higher but this again , depends on the game