You Probably Won't Buy Intel's New Ultra 9 285k CPU

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  • Опубликовано: 23 окт 2024

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  • @Level1Techs
    @Level1Techs  10 часов назад +10

    Some more details & Info here
    forum.level1techs.com/t/intel-core-ultra-9-285k-core-ultra-5-review/218917
    9:45 - there's a typo here, the column is supposed to say "OS" not "CPU" lol... whoops

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei4252 9 часов назад +33

    Wendell, I'm afraid that you are 100% right: I'm not interested in this CPU.

    • @xXx_Regulus_xXx
      @xXx_Regulus_xXx 7 часов назад

      I always say that, but that's just because my upgrade cycle is so slow

  • @Tuhar
    @Tuhar 9 часов назад +30

    The 'show me where' skit had me rolling! Amazing sense of humor. Level1 and GN are my absolute favorite tech channels because they both have a good sense of humor - and manage to keep it tech related. Can't wait for the x3d chips from AMD!

    • @seanunderscorepry
      @seanunderscorepry 8 часов назад +1

      Agreed. So much nicer than the "that's what she said" nature of that one popular tech RUclipsr

    • @JohnWalsh2019
      @JohnWalsh2019 8 часов назад

      GN is a speed talking mumble mouth.

    • @piked86
      @piked86 8 часов назад

      ​@@JohnWalsh2019maybe you should be checked for auditory processing issues.

  • @Cylonknight
    @Cylonknight 8 часов назад +9

    I work in IT for a non profit company, recently had to have a meeting with Dell to get more end user devices, I made it a point to say I want AMD laptops, not intel. I also pointed out I wasn’t happy that their lineup of devices are lacking AMD. Pretty sure they were sued over this before. They wanted to know why I don’t want intel, and basically said I wasn’t impressed with the performance compared to price and thermals. Also not a fan of their name change, confusing consumers more than they already were.

    • @xXx_Regulus_xXx
      @xXx_Regulus_xXx 7 часов назад

      people have been complaining about the names for years now, why are they so reluctant to improve in that area?

  • @pibyte
    @pibyte 10 часов назад +75

    "This CPU represents the dawn of a new age for Intel!"
    The bankruptcy era?

    • @norkshit
      @norkshit 9 часов назад +2

      the dark ages (part 2)

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 9 часов назад

      well they apparently lost some of the funding from power companies since they lowered the power usage... but the performance dropped greatly to... so there is that...

    • @SeanLi-i7n
      @SeanLi-i7n 8 часов назад

      You'll see what's coming up in two years. Any BK talk is just ignorance of what's really going on in the past few years. Simply put, Intel has been bogged down by its foundry and the unwieldy P-core. Now both are changing with the 18A and the reorientation towards E-core. Already saw the great potential of E-core in Lunar Lake.

  • @tringuyen7519
    @tringuyen7519 10 часов назад +54

    OMG, Ultra 9 285K loses to 7800X3D on every game except Final Fantasy & Forspoken! $600 Intel CPU loses to $450 AMD CPU? & the 9800X3D launches next week.

    • @amigatommy7
      @amigatommy7 10 часов назад +2

      oops

    • @arizona_anime_fan
      @arizona_anime_fan 8 часов назад +1

      it also ties the 5700x3d in most games. a $200 cpu on the AM4 platform.

  • @Lua64
    @Lua64 10 часов назад +36

    5:42
    More like this please. 😆

    • @pieterrossouw8596
      @pieterrossouw8596 10 часов назад +3

      Nearly painted my monitor with coffee here 😂

    • @JensAllerlei
      @JensAllerlei 8 часов назад +2

      That came unexpected 😂

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei4252 9 часов назад +12

    The segment with the psychologist made me laugh more than I should have. Was that editor Autumn ? 😆

    • @Level1Techs
      @Level1Techs  9 часов назад +4

      Yes it was! ~ Amber

    • @vincei4252
      @vincei4252 9 часов назад +1

      @@Level1Techs lol, sorry Amber.

    • @Level1Techs
      @Level1Techs  9 часов назад +5

      xD I meant yes it was autumn, I was behind the camera ~ Amber

    • @vincei4252
      @vincei4252 9 часов назад

      @@Level1Techs lol. Gotcha. It gets a little confusing.

    • @Level1Techs
      @Level1Techs  9 часов назад +7

      I get called Amber all the time lol ~ Editor Autumn

  • @JamesSullivan-ru4op
    @JamesSullivan-ru4op 8 часов назад +5

    AMD introduces a significantly more efficient series of CPUs with at least the same performance, but by and large a bit more. They were skewered by Tech media. Any tech media that dared show a different result, a favorable 9000 series result, such as Tom's Hardware (not the only), were in turn skewered.
    Intel introduces even more expensive CPUs, barely any efficiency increase, less performance and some instability, and Intel is treated with kid-gloves. This is why people go all tribal. The self-appointed tech press creates this with their bias in favor of certain makers and their products.
    If the AMD launch products were considered terrible, horrible and awful and they were by multiple tech channels, then these new Intel CPUs being launched should be considered the stuff of nightmares. Yet do we see this in the reviewer expression of their test results? No. The thumbnail titles, taglines and even wording in the videos themselves are not even close to even. They are by far more gentle on Intel.
    I am a consumer. I want straight forward information and I want Intel, AMD and whoever else to be around because competition is good. It usually keeps prices more sane and drives innovation. This is destroyed when popular tech media don't remain neutral.

    • @cesrai
      @cesrai 8 часов назад

      Give examples, every channel I have seen GN, LTT, this one are very critical and negative

  • @MarioCRO
    @MarioCRO 9 часов назад +6

    @Level1Tech, 5:42 is truly comedy gold... SNL reference and a good one at that.

  • @Patrick73787
    @Patrick73787 9 часов назад +4

    The regression in gaming is quite massive. This product is an utter failure.

  • @fredEVOIX
    @fredEVOIX 10 часов назад +8

    ex-13900k user currently 7950x I'm not going back to Intel until they pay me the 2 years of constant crashes I suffered, 9950x3D my wallet is ready

  • @MikeBob2023
    @MikeBob2023 8 часов назад +1

    Thank you, Wendellman! 🙏🏼👍🏼

  • @joshgranstrom4689
    @joshgranstrom4689 9 часов назад +2

    I laughed at the therapy skit. Thank you wendel

  • @username65585
    @username65585 8 часов назад +1

    I don't want a glued together CPU.

  • @astro-canuck
    @astro-canuck 8 часов назад

    The moment you said 'aquarius' i had the melody running in my head. Yeah, thats an old reference!!

  • @xealit
    @xealit 9 часов назад +1

    It's how it was with AMD and Zen 10 years ago. Gamers and financial media were trashing it while all engineering reviews were like "it is actually some good stuff with some potential here". A year later the gamers flipped and when it got to servers, the finance folks also got on board.

  • @Dan-Simms
    @Dan-Simms 8 часов назад +2

    Where did intel touch you Wendell? Show us on the mobo lol love it

  • @vulcan4d
    @vulcan4d 8 часов назад +1

    The L1, L2 and L3 speed is impressive however the ram latency is hurting it. If they fix that, this CPU will fly.

  • @dudao4163
    @dudao4163 10 часов назад +23

    Wow ! 20% worse than 7800X3D on average means 30% worse than 9800X3D. Thats a mountain 🙄

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou 10 часов назад +7

      And that's before power draw being higher

    • @Level1Techs
      @Level1Techs  9 часов назад +11

      Careful -- this is the first Intel cpu in an age that is highly memory dependent. Depending on the DDR5 scenario it is between 5% and 20% worse than the 7800x3d. The point was I was surprised how much range there was. It's basically "par" for a 14900k with somewhat worse frametimes at the current time.

    • @kurtwinter4422
      @kurtwinter4422 8 часов назад +3

      It also means, it can barely beat a 5800X3D 🍷🍷

    • @evalangley3985
      @evalangley3985 8 часов назад

      Then just buy it if you are convinced this is such a great CPU...
      In my case, I will not, and I will definitely never recommend it...

  • @toma.3d
    @toma.3d 9 часов назад +2

    @5:43 LOL at "reset yourself" !

  • @ChaitanyaShukla2503
    @ChaitanyaShukla2503 10 часов назад +2

    Anandtech and Techgage both seem to have gone down and are sorely missed.

  • @matthewmadden1195
    @matthewmadden1195 10 часов назад +2

    Reacting to you opening reference - are you saying Intel has entered the Fifth Dimension ?

  • @markldevine
    @markldevine 8 часов назад

    I had no idea that you also brought big humor. Nice.

  • @prosetheus
    @prosetheus 8 часов назад

    Thank you for this review. Your insights are invaluable.

  • @seanunderscorepry
    @seanunderscorepry 8 часов назад

    As a Boards of Canada fan I welcome the "Hair!" Reference.

  • @DigitalSelfDefenceNow
    @DigitalSelfDefenceNow 9 часов назад

    For a little bit, I felt bad about only running a 12th gen on the machine I got this year.
    Now with the (maybe intentional?) Issues with 14th gen. Then this? I guess I'm happy where I am.
    I'm a bit worried to upgrade now, because by the time I do, the CPU market might be even worse.

  • @Koffiato
    @Koffiato 9 часов назад +2

    Intel made Zen 3 & 4 look good. Congratulations Intel.

  • @douglasmurphy3266
    @douglasmurphy3266 9 часов назад

    Process lasso isn't going to help when your application needs more than 8 good threads, which a lot of games now seem to have adapted to 6C/12T chips being the base "performance" tier. The weaker E-core threads are kicking in and it looks like on an OS-level you can have many conflicting scenarios on what they are being told to do with their power profiles.

  • @sarahsaffel9955
    @sarahsaffel9955 9 часов назад

    It does seem promising. I think as systems grow into fully utilizing the current CPUs the ultra 9 285 will be a golden piece of used hardware over the next 5-7 years. The high-end 13th and 14th gen will be landmines of possible degradation and that leaves what on the and side, a 3 years older 12th gen, which is very solid but will age out first. Unless the next generation released is just out-of-this-world incredible I suspect that 285 owners will have pretty good resale value or a lot of incentive to repurpose these chips.
    also, the IGPU on this is amazing, battlemage when!?

  • @WayStedYou
    @WayStedYou 10 часов назад +1

    0:11 more half baked than a seth rogan movie

  • @jairo8746
    @jairo8746 8 часов назад

    In short:
    "It wasn't ready to launch"

  • @BladeCrew
    @BladeCrew 7 часов назад

    I think with bios maturity the cpu can become better. I mean my Ryzen 5 5500 got a mature bios on my Asrock B450M Steel Legend and its running fantastic compared to launch.

  • @harleyspawn
    @harleyspawn 9 часов назад +1

    Interesting stuff. I wonder where Intel is headed with all these shenanigans. Are they trying to out-stack AMD, or are they throwing everything at the power-efficiency problem they caused when they turned 13-14 Gen CPUs into mainboard furnaces? I feel like there must be 7-8 PhD's pulling their CPU design meetings in 7-8 different directions or something.

  • @farhanrejwan
    @farhanrejwan 7 часов назад

    a lot of these "when"s end up having the same answer : "never".
    and i don't hope anything about intel because i couldn't care any less for them.

  • @4zims
    @4zims 9 часов назад

    my guess is the next Arrow Lake refresh will include hyperthreading

  • @hinz1
    @hinz1 10 часов назад +1

    I'd take a nice Epyc Manycore over weird Intel design any day!

  • @lharsay
    @lharsay 7 часов назад

    It looks so bad that Intel should start thinking about canceling all future projects based on this design and not release anything for 5 years until they build something new from scratch.

  • @treyquattro
    @treyquattro 8 часов назад +1

    always try turning yourself off and on first! Arrow Lake still seems disappointing on power draw given the claims.

  • @MikeBob2023
    @MikeBob2023 10 часов назад

    I probably won't, Wendellman, but I *do* have high hopes for the Bartlett Lake lineup. 🤗

    • @samuelrodgers2742
      @samuelrodgers2742 10 часов назад

      Bartlett Lake probably won't be for consumers. It's focussed on networking and edge microservers.

    • @MikeBob2023
      @MikeBob2023 8 часов назад

      @@samuelrodgers2742 That wouldn't stop me from trying to get my hands on one (or two) to play with. 😁

  • @DespoBryant
    @DespoBryant 10 часов назад +2

    Show me where the motherboard hurt you 😂

  • @doxydoxdelamanca9902
    @doxydoxdelamanca9902 7 часов назад

    Age of Aquarius 1969; that's nice.

  • @marcin25401
    @marcin25401 8 часов назад

    "You Probably Won't Buy Intel's New Ultra 9 285k" Yes i will. My CPU and GPU are 5 generations old, and i am currently planning new computer. Hyper-threading gone (i heated this feature, so confusing), Thunderbolt 5 - cant wait for new docking stations with built-in 10G networking and Thunderbolt 5 support, lower power consumption - great, energy is super expensive in Europe. What's not to like ? It is even cheaper then 9950X which i was planning to buy.

    • @ConorHanley
      @ConorHanley 7 часов назад

      What's so confusing about Hyper-Threading especially compared to P & E cores?

  • @justsomeguyinnc473
    @justsomeguyinnc473 10 часов назад +6

    Intel has re-invented the Pentium 4. Fast clocks, sends your power bill thru the roof, and performance is "OK". Yay?

  • @D.Perakov
    @D.Perakov 8 часов назад +2

    And with this poor performance in Intel games, how exactly do they think they will convince me to pay for their new processors + new moutherboard + new ram? 🤔Sorry intel but after so many years with You now I will go to AMD and 9800X3D. ☺

  • @samiraperi467
    @samiraperi467 9 часов назад

    "Pro-seon? Oh, Procyon." The C is hard, literally; prokyon

  • @ramonzaions7522
    @ramonzaions7522 10 часов назад +8

    Soooo... Its Official??? Intel its Official A Second Brand on everything?

    • @Navelwriter
      @Navelwriter 10 часов назад +7

      Why are you posting this on multiple reviews.

    • @ramonzaions7522
      @ramonzaions7522 10 часов назад +1

      @@Navelwriter bcse i want lol! Nothing special!

    • @phillysupra
      @phillysupra 10 часов назад

      ​@@Navelwritercuz folks are out here living off of RUclips likes instead of touching grass. It's sad.
      He must not be old enough to remember when amd was the bottom of the bin. Companies have their ups and downs and Intel can't always be the winner for 50+ years straight

  • @j_t_eklund
    @j_t_eklund 8 часов назад

    Lets see if you people manage to dig up the big issue with the new series.. (hint look at HT implementation on previous series).

  • @jameysummers1577
    @jameysummers1577 8 часов назад

    I see how this launch is going...
    Intel launches new CPUs and nobody pays attention.
    Edit: Or everyone thanks God they bought a Ryzen X3D chip.

  • @ottermanuk
    @ottermanuk 9 часов назад +1

    A CPU shouldn't be "interesting", it should do the jobs it needs to do better than the ones before it. $500 for something worse before doesn't butter anyone's parsnips regardless how interesting it is. It's like buying an Alfa Romeo. Yeah it might be interesting, but it also is worse when you look at it categorically.
    This is said by someone that does appreciate the engineering Intel's put into this new generation. But if it's worse, it's worse. For a lot of money it's worse

  • @thomaswilliams
    @thomaswilliams 8 часов назад

    Are the tiles glued together?

  • @SeanLi-i7n
    @SeanLi-i7n 9 часов назад

    Great video - Arrow lake is a stepping stone. It may take another two years for Intel to beat AMD on the PC end.

    • @SpecialKLSX
      @SpecialKLSX 9 часов назад

      Where have I heard that before, recently.
      Let's be real; the shoe is on the other foot, for now.
      And I hope it stays there for a while. Least till AMD gets complacent.

    • @SeanLi-i7n
      @SeanLi-i7n 8 часов назад

      @@SpecialKLSX Pay attention to the background stuff, Intel is stuck because its old P-core runs out of steam. Now it shifts its effort to beef up the E-core, which we already see its potential in just 1-gen. If the perf-leap can be largely retained in the next gen or two, taking the lead after two years seems likely.
      On the other hand, AMD's advance slowed down quite a bit in its Zen4 and 5 release, unless AMD can wow people in its next gen, which I doubt, I'll bet on Intel leap ahead.

  • @jrose-xp6tf
    @jrose-xp6tf 9 часов назад

    You're right, I won't be buying this.

  • @Somatom_Man
    @Somatom_Man 8 часов назад

    I'm going to because as an elderly hobbyist and an invalid, I need something to do.

  • @jamesbowen6144
    @jamesbowen6144 9 часов назад +1

    OK that was funny ... touching his mobo again ...

  • @ConorHanley
    @ConorHanley 8 часов назад

    How come he knew I wouldn't be getting this CPU? Besides who cares if its the dawn of a new age for Intel till it reaches midday.

  • @ramonzaions7522
    @ramonzaions7522 10 часов назад +7

    Soo... i prefer Zen 5% !😂

  • @zepesh
    @zepesh 10 часов назад

    Waiting for the review of Core Ultra Seven Seven Seven Seven
    Seven Seven Seven!
    Seven Seven Seven!

  • @pietkoos1112
    @pietkoos1112 8 часов назад

    the holy mountain

  • @WayStedYou
    @WayStedYou 10 часов назад

    Amd and Intel both releasing cpus that needed another month in the oven back to back.

  • @ama-tu-an-ki
    @ama-tu-an-ki 9 часов назад

    Take -$200 off the price, -20% of Z890 mobos and another slice of the fastest 8200MT/s DIMMs and it's a decent platform, especially for some specific (non-gaming) tasks. At this price, for overall workstation, no.

  • @Axcellaful
    @Axcellaful 9 часов назад

    Excellent video. I feel bad for intel.

    • @JohnWalsh2019
      @JohnWalsh2019 8 часов назад

      Don't they've done it to themselves. Plus, they get a ton of US tax payer money. I have zero sympathy for them.

  • @YouTubeUser0001
    @YouTubeUser0001 9 часов назад

    3 years behind tsmc with this 7nm litography

    • @EdDale44135
      @EdDale44135 7 часов назад

      Isn’t this manufactured at TSmC?

  • @takeda0123
    @takeda0123 9 часов назад

    Ah...good old used to be blue chips such as boeing and intel, etc. What do they have in common? The heads of those snakes are still intact! They move the same way, they think or lack there of the same way. Would ppl expect otherwise? I want to buy their stocks when they are low but with the same heads attached to those bodies, I'm afraid there is bigger chance of once hard to imagine outcomes.

    • @JWooden271
      @JWooden271 8 часов назад

      Intel already booted it's prior CEO, that's how P.G. is in the spot.

    • @takeda0123
      @takeda0123 8 часов назад

      @@JWooden271 Good to know! Now all they have to do is replace all the ex-ceo's buddies at every level from top to bottom.

  • @urmensch12
    @urmensch12 10 часов назад

    I mean if Intel managed to fix the instability with those mew chips tjen it might be the saving grace for them

  • @evalangley3985
    @evalangley3985 8 часов назад

    It is literally the worst CPU launch I can recall...

  • @micheal6898
    @micheal6898 8 часов назад

    It feels like this could be a Bulldozer 2.0 but at least this time there is gold in the pile of shit . Hopefully intel can sort themselves out for the next iteration because the informed consumer shouldn't be buying these CPUs in this state.

  • @Rushil69420
    @Rushil69420 9 часов назад

    Yeah I’m on Alder Lake right now and I don’t see myself upgrading to anything in this generation. 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @Eric_Wolfe-Schulte
    @Eric_Wolfe-Schulte 9 часов назад +1

    Looking for a replacement for my i5-9600k and this.. This ain't it 😔

  • @SuperMari026
    @SuperMari026 8 часов назад +1

    Watching this video because it's an L1 video. Intel holds no interest for me unless it's Optane tbh.

  • @Zarathustra-H-
    @Zarathustra-H- 9 часов назад

    I KNOW I won't buy it. I don't trust Intel anymore. They have to earn that trust back. Might take 3-4 problem free generations for that to happen and what with the rumors I am hearing about Arrow Lake stability issues, that is not a good start.

  • @jensgerntholtz4041
    @jensgerntholtz4041 10 часов назад +3

    I waited over 10 years and decided that this should be the time I should finally upgrade from the Haswell 4670k.
    Skipping HT altogether.

    • @pieterrossouw8596
      @pieterrossouw8596 10 часов назад +5

      Wait you're sticking with Intel? In 2024?

    • @YouTubeUser0001
      @YouTubeUser0001 9 часов назад

      @@pieterrossouw8596 3 years behind tsmc with this 7nm litography

  • @blakecasimir
    @blakecasimir 8 часов назад

    The Hollywood slump, the AAA gaming slump, and now the x86 computing slump. Watch AMD fall behind with the next gen of Radeon as well.
    As a great band once said: Modern Life Is Rubbish

  • @wellallnasib
    @wellallnasib 8 часов назад

    As long as AMD 7000 series on the market there is no completion both from AMD 9000 or Intel 200 due to price to permeance.

  • @teromeehaley4612
    @teromeehaley4612 10 часов назад +4

    I will trust Wendell's ability to review CPUs and gpus far more than gamers Nexus hardware unboxed and LTT. Simply for the fact is that he is an IT guy, so he is mostly platform agnostic whether that's software or hardware. It doesn't matter as long as it performs well in the pasts that he wants and that it if there is a problem, he will talk about the problem and ways demeliorate it or ask the question. How would you fix this problem? How would you humiliate the issues and how in the next revision or in stepping? Will you fix this issue? Which for Intel is just make a whole new CPU tile-based architecture with chiplets with an emib.

    • @Level1Techs
      @Level1Techs  9 часов назад +13

      thanks, but don't encourage tribalism for the sake of tribalism. Steve's basically a human truth crucible and LTT is so massive not only do they have their own gravitational field, they are a huge blend of talented people. This particular launch is so wild I am sure that everyone will discover something different and interesting in the launch coverage.

    • @teromeehaley4612
      @teromeehaley4612 9 часов назад

      @@Level1Techs here's how the hierarchy goes to make sure to adjust your expectations and to recalibrate your understanding. It goes Lawrence systems, serve the home, level One techs, hardware hardware unboxed, gamersnexus, ltt Jay's two cents,and Paul's hardware. That is the hierarchy of information for me related to new hardware releases by AMD, Intel, and Nvidia. Do not under any circumstance say I would like 'tribalism for the sake of tribalism', how I have my information. Hierarchy setup is based on information density over the presenter of the information. Also, if you know anything about companies, especially ones that produce hardware the best way to gauge how a product is going to be, how much did they talk about it? How much information was leaked before its release? Was it more or less than the previous release of the last set of products? It's all about data. It's all about asking the right questions.

  • @Dan-Simms
    @Dan-Simms 8 часов назад

    Zen 5%
    Intel -5%

  • @dgo4490
    @dgo4490 8 часов назад

    Pentium 4 all over again...

  • @marktackman2886
    @marktackman2886 9 часов назад

    RIP Intel

  • @gglovato
    @gglovato 9 часов назад

    Use win10 Wendell, not the win11 turd

  • @cpuuk
    @cpuuk 9 часов назад

    Ultra 7?

  • @kennethwilson8236
    @kennethwilson8236 8 часов назад

    test at 4k

    • @evalangley3985
      @evalangley3985 8 часов назад

      CPU bottlenecks at 4k?
      Yeah right...

  • @LilIbooking11
    @LilIbooking11 9 часов назад

    Long live 12th gen

  • @kwazar6725
    @kwazar6725 10 часов назад +1

    Idle power???

    • @kwazar6725
      @kwazar6725 9 часов назад

      Checked and pcworld says idle power is a little worse.. by 3% (+2.5w).. i expected this.

  • @Azureskies01
    @Azureskies01 8 часов назад +1

    intel -2.85%

  • @jogurtnaturalny
    @jogurtnaturalny 9 часов назад

    I'm hungry ( Comment to boost algo )

  • @cem_kaya
    @cem_kaya 10 часов назад +1

    i give nice(19) to the cpu

  • @gustavmh8423
    @gustavmh8423 8 часов назад

    ahahaha glue togheter ahahah

  • @danielfernandezaguirre
    @danielfernandezaguirre 8 часов назад

    The name sucks, the performance sucks and the innovation sucks... maybe next time intel

  • @MikeBob2023
    @MikeBob2023 10 часов назад

    30!

    • @OptimusToaster
      @OptimusToaster 10 часов назад

      265252859812191058636308480000000

  • @D9ID9I
    @D9ID9I 9 часов назад

    It will be fine to buy if these are rock stable. That's the main question.

  • @VarriskKhanaar
    @VarriskKhanaar 10 часов назад +1

    Both AMD and Intel cr*pped the bed with this current launch for performance, but both excelled on efficiency?

    • @KrYPTzx
      @KrYPTzx 10 часов назад +3

      Nah AMD at least increased it’s performance whereas Intel went in the negative and decreased in performance while still being less efficient than Zen 5

    • @KrYPTzx
      @KrYPTzx 9 часов назад +2

      The real winner are the X3D CPUs and those who have Zen4 and Ryzen 5000 series

    • @EdDale44135
      @EdDale44135 7 часов назад

      Intel still not hitting the Zen levels of efficiency.