Ryzen 5 5500 vs. Ryzen 5 3600, Most Affordable Zen 3 Worth It? 21 Game Benchmark, 1080p & 1440p
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Ryzen 5 5500 vs. Ryzen 5 3600, Most Affordable Zen 3 Worth It? 21 Game Benchmark, 1080p & 1440p
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I love that they keep using the B350 Board for all the testing.. It's like an extra slap in Intel's face every time they do it!!
I thought he said he was using a b550 at the beginning.
Update: watched the beginning and he is using a b350 damn...
It also shows that people who bought into quad core Ryzen early can go to a 5000 series chip and get a jump in performance
Amd sure did one of the Best moves in tech
@@Beastyboy1029RBLX Yeah depending on the apps it's like an 80% performance increase from Zen 1 to to Zen 3, Most games are like 50% faster depending on the GPU used.. It's a huge jump from something like a 1600x to a 5800X.. Huge..
I would have loved to rock my original b350 board but it died quickly due to psu failure and now I am on a b450 platform
Saved for my R5 3600, big step up from my old AM3 FX9590 ! Still doing just fine but these video's are a great help in deciding when to upgrade.
Can't wait to hear more about this Ryzen 5 3060! 😅 Understandable mistake, too many similar product names!
Yeah I caught him saying that a few times as well.
Yeah, for a minute I thought I was missing something. Everybody has to be like everybody else. Still, monitor manufacturers could learn a thing or two from it.
Ima pair that with my rtx 3060 and play at 3060p!
@@josejuanandrade4439
You'd better run them at 3060 MHz!
@@josejuanandrade4439 You mean "my gtx 3600" 😉
Definitely interested in the 3600 vs 5800 3D. It looks like the best AM4 CPU that will ever be made. I think a lot of people would like to upgrade to that and then ride that setup until its obsolete. No one wants to deal with a new platform ATM, DDR5 issues etc
I'd be interested to see how much more performance I'd get from my 3070
Yesss same, I'm on a 3600 with a 3060ti i wonder how much more I can juice it, i can see monitoring performance that many many times my GPU is not at 99% it's almost always lower !
Not necessarily true, some things AMD staff have said in recent interviews as well as Lisa at Computex AND the leaker's rumor-mill all point to AM4 possibly getting a set of new SKUs in the future. Rumors on this range from even more budget friendly SKUs, to X3D/V-Cache versions of Zen3 12, 16 and even 6 core SKUs... to belive it or not, even Zen4 maybe getting a AM4 release somehow.
But either way I agree, even if that doesn't pan out, 5800X3D (arguably along with 5950X) remains the crowning jewel of AMD's DDR4 era and a phenomenal piece of technology.
@@darksouls8667 Well, if your GPU is currently at lets say 92% you could get at most 7-8% more and that is about it . You don't need a benchmark for that :D
i like to see 58003d vs 12600k not a fair comparison probably.
@@darksouls8667 The 3600 has almost no safe overclocking potential. Your best bet is to keep it cool and let Precision Boost do its thing.
I'm actually amazed how well my "old" Ryzen 5 3600 holds up to the 5600. There is no reason whatsoever to upgrade to a better CPU if you play in 1440p with a midrange GPU, like I do. Even in 1080p the performance increase is minimal if you play with a 6600 XT/RTX 3060 (probably even up to 6700 XT) or slower.
i think my r5 3600 pairs perfectly with my 6700xt
not really, no. you gain quite a lot of fps in competitive titles, even more if you want to tinker with curve optimizer
@@TheNubaHS I dont have a 300hz monitor
I have a 3600 and 6700xt. If you plan to play esports or high refresh gaming you might want a better cpu. I’m cpu bottle necked on apex. But for single player games it’s great!!
@@Pinardi1 I can play most games in 165fps which is the limit of my monitor. Anything more than that is unnecessary. 165hz more than enough
What's interesting to me in a number of these comparisons is that with an older gfx card it makes almost no sense to upgrade the CPU - framrates seem almost always to be virtually the same.. As an aside, the 5500 is currently retailing for GBP 115 to 120 which is quite a drop in price...
That has always been the case. But for some reason people see 15% different with a 6900xt or a 3090 and expect to see the same different while using mid or low end GPUs, of course that makes no sense. I remember Hardware Canucks got really bad press because they tested the 5800x3D with a 3070 and see no different vs a 5800x, people got mad.
Yeah. Building a gaming pc is aways a cat and mouse game where you have to choose whether the bottleneck is the processor or gfx card.
@@DPedroBoh i feel bottlenecked is an over used word, it's better explained by "limiting factor". You are bottlenecked kinda when one of either CPU or GPU is hard limiting the frame rate.
Yeah but we're getting new gpu's and older ones are dropping in price and 5500 is already bottlenecking a 6700xt
..and you can get a used 3600 for 80 quid
Here in Czechia, R5 5500 costs about 40 % less than R5 5600. Combined with very good deals on B450 boards, this makes R5 5500 a rather popular CPU. I would gladly recommend it with some cheaper GPUs, sadly the cheapest that is worth recommending is RX 6600 and I suppose the CPU can be the limiting factor in 1080p even with that one in some games. Still, if the budget was tight, I'd rather get this pairing than R5 5600 with RX 6500 XT :)
Ryzen 5 3600 and intel i5 10400 F are probably the most afordable 6 core 12 threads cpus out there, I have i5 10400f paired with RX 6600 XT .
You can still buy the Ryzen 5 3600 NEW, for less than a 5500, so you're better off buying that!
Get a Ryzen 5 3600 new instead! It is cheaper than the 5500
@@samuelrave Yeah, it was reintroduced since, and the price is very attractive. Moreover, PCIe 4.0 support might be useful in the future, R5 3600 has it, R5 5500 doesn't.
@@vlastimil-furst and it has more L3 cache and yes PCIe 4.0 is a must with current GPU's, especially for the GPU's with less then 16x lanes
Great video Steve, and useful info for me as a 1600X owner for an upgrade path. However, it cracked my ears hearing Steve refer to the 3600 as "3060" on at least three occasions, but these can happen with number heavy parts nowadays :D
Thanks for the video. My wife is still rocking a 1500x and I was wondering about the 5500 as an upgrade. Looks like I am buying a 5800x3d and she will just get the 3600x out of my system! 🤣🤓
This is an excellent upgrade strategy. In general, the type of person who would be upgrading to the 5500 would be currently using an APU with a discrete graphics card, or a 1600AF or 2600(X) CPU Those with earlier Ryzen processors would often have motherboards of questionable compatibility and be much better off with a used 3600.
smart man ! 😎👍
Oh, the 1500x. Such a rare goodie. Surprising performance, even today. Of course depends on the needs, but still. 16MB Level 3 Cache is a big help.
That's a great idea.
You're a bad husband :p
I was just waiting for a comparison of the Ryzen 5 5500, especially with the Radeon RX 6600 XT. But 2 weeks ago there was a promotion in the store and I bought a new one for $115. I have a B450 board and replaced the Ryzen 5 1600 just with the 5500, and I am mega happy with this processor. Performance in combination with RX 6600 XT sensational in 1080p. For my needs it was definitely better to buy the 5500 than the 5600, too much difference in price, too little difference in performance. Thx for great video and benchmarking with two GPUs.
🐖 ⭐ 🎏 p
I replaced my 1700 with a 5500 because over here I got it for £78 less than a 5600(non X), as I'm on B450 I don't care about PCIe 4. Perfectly solid upgrade for the money that makes the 5600, for me, not worth the extra money, 5-10% better maybe but around 40% more expensive.
@@tilapiadave3234 Are you OK? It seems like you might've had a stroke while you wrote this idiotic comment. You bought a R5 5500 with a B550mb that have PCIe 4.0 which is idiotic and you are telling the guy that did the right choice that he made a "VERY bad choice".
I'd usually say that I'd be interested in what are your motives for that statement, but honestly I'd rather you not answer. Cheers and definitely go to the doctor to check for stroke.
@@xingbairong lmao yeah i've been seeing this guy in every video about the ryzen 5 5500 and telling all the people in the comments that are considering to buy it or have bought it and straight up just telling them they've made a bad decision and stuff like that. Man gets no attention in his life that he has go to youtube comments and bash people up for buying something they're happy with.
@@raz6182 it is a bad decision, 3600 is cheaper and performs the same, although yes he is an attention whore.
Loving these recent cpu benchmarks with top of the line gpu to mainstream gpu comparisons. Goes to show that pairing does matter. The performance advantage of zen 3 clearly doesnt matter if 1080 p gaming is the target when it is paired with a midrange current gen gpu
I went from my 1600 to the 5500, managed to get my memory to run at 3800 (3200 rated) and the OC'd the cpu and its great so far, pretty awesome for a 70$ upgrade after selling my 1600.
I went from my 1700 to the 5500 because the 5600(non X) here in the UK, at the time of purchase(and still) was £189 compared to the £111 I paid. Haven't tweaked it yet but straight out the box it's faster and (for me) more importantly stutters in games less. I'm sensitive to variations in FPS and frame timings, I'd rather lock my frame rate lower to achieve 60/60/60 than have it bouncing around all over the place. For a £111 part I perfectly happy with the chip and frankly at £78 more the 5600 is not worth it for me. If I feel the need to upgrade again I'll just wait until an 8 or 12 core Zen 3 part is cheap used in a couple of years when AM5 has all the AMD enthusiasts shifted over to it.
same shit in august . I sold my 2600 for 60 euros and managed to buy new R5 5500 for 90 Euros . 30 Euro Upgrade. Totally worth it for 40% more power. At least on my PC with my memory. Long live AMD for their backward compatibility!
@@ivaniliev2272
I think it's a real budget champion chip mate, so much faster in gaming than my old 1700(feels about 50% smoother, the frame timings are just better along with more of 'em) and just a quick BIOS upgrade to run it. Even easy to cool, I just put my old copper slug Wraith Spire on it and it runs at full boost on all cores with precision boost overdrive enabled (plus a cheaky +400 Mhz on my RAM). For the £111 new inc VAT I paid I'm very happy with it, the upgrade is noticeably stronger than when I went for a drop in upgrade of a 4th gen i7 from a 3rd gen i5 on my pre-Ryzen build. BTW I did mine in August too.
I went from 1700x to 5500 on my x370 MB. I paid $100 CAD for the 5500 and the 5600 is $75 more here. I'm getting 30-40FPS increase in Warzone 2 with my 5700xt, it's well worth the money.
Dear @@darthwiizius ,
If you only play games, ryzen 7 5800 X 3D is you perfec choice, I think, but it also depends on the game, you play.
I would like to see a 3600 vs 5800X3D video. Thanks Steve for your hard work. Every time there is a major CPU/GPU release I pretty much immediately look to your videos.
Me too! That seems like my next upgrade if not going to 5900X
If you want a gaming machine for many years the 5800X3D CPU will do that. Nothing else that goes on AM4 will be good enough for newer GPUs that come out after the gens releasing now. A 5800X isn't even fast enough for a 4090. You figure it won't be fast enough for a 5070 for the next generation.
On the other hand the 5800X3D games about the same as a 7700X. So, to me that's a pretty obvious choice if I want to hang on to AM4 for a long time as a gaming system.
I'd like to see more games like the Civilization games included in these gaming CPU benchmarks. Comparing the impact of different CPUs on turn lengths etc. Or a Factorio test map designed to just have bunch of actions going on at once.
Games that aren't just about pushing frames to the GPU, but will actually get CPU bottlenecked even at low frame rates.
BeamNG with multiple vehicles (especially multiplayer) is a great test that brings weak CPUs to their knees, eg, my 4770k cries with more than 6 people spawned in on a server
Indeed, I kept hearing "one of our most CPU limited benchmarks" and it's yet *another* racing simulation, which really is a niche in the gaming market. Some diversity would be nice.
Or PS3 emulator. Then it'll be apparent Alder Lake is noticably faster than Zen 3. AMD Steve doesn't want that.
@@cannotwest AMD fanboys keep calling him Intel fanboy, Intel fanboys calling him AMD fanboy. It would seem fanboys like you are full of crap.
@@Lightkie If racing games are a niche, then what are Civ and Factorio? FH5 sold 15 million copies so far, doesn't sound like much of a niche to me.
I really feel like the quality of this channel has grown significantly in the past year or so. Beautiful work
I'm totaly fine with my Ryzen 5 3600, I paid a year ago 120 Euro with box and cooler.. and he runs like a champ :D Next is a good Graphics card.. RTX 3060TI ♥
So i didnt need yet a upgrade tbh, I play so much random games xD LoL, DayZ, Raft. For the King, Battlefield 5, The witcher 3 ect ect.. and the 3600 makes a great job.
Get a Rx 6700xt
This is a quite interesting comparison as Ryzen 5 5500 is quite weak imo and proves the value of Ryzen 5 3600. Amazing work as usual Steve and I'm looking forward to seeing your RX 6800 vs RTX 3070 Ti 50 games benchmark in 2022 later!
5500 weak or 3000 series actually pretty good?
@@robertt9342 3000 series came in behind even older 14nm...
@@dakrawnik4208 You mean 1000 series. 3000 series is based on 7nm from TSMC
@@robertt9342 both imo
RX 6800 is quite rare, so it's still much more inflated than RX6750XT, also the RX 6800XT is better and is getting cheap enough to be the go-to instead. Rx 6800 is still $600 but 6750XT is $530 and RX 6700XT 499 in Newegg. RTX 3070Ti is still $700 and just 8GB. Anyways, I hope this video comes out as I've seen you requesting it in most videos🤞
I'm still on 1600. Upgrading to 5500 is so tempting since my motherboard just got a bios update to support 5 series. The 5500 is around $55 cheaper than the 5600, and if I sell my 1600, I only need to add around $50 to buy the 5500, which is a huge upgrade for the money. But money wise, upgrading computer is the very last thing on my priority list....
Go with 5600. L3 cache will help you later down the line.
Yeah thats what i did although i had a sidegrade to a 3300x for a few months. Sold both to get my 5500. that sidegrade confirms that 4 core for my daily use is ok ,multultitasking though does take a hit even from my 1600. Probabaly my last 4 core desktop cpu
I was on 3200g and upgraded to 5500, can't be more happier since I can finally play games like BF and Spiderman (I have a 1660s). Where I live the 5500 was 97 usd cheaper than the 5600
Excellent review that kind of highlights the disappointment I have with AMD's release plan for lower end Ryzen parts this past generation. I hope they do better with Zen 4.
To be fair, their release plan is okay considering the 5500 and below are just terrible. A better plan would have been to release none of them at all or release the 5500 for $120.
@@drunkhusband6257 Yup, its almost the opposite from when the Ryzens released. Altho AMD did lower their prices quite quickly after that. If you got an AM4 boards, upgrading to a 5600 or so is usually a great deal.
@@drunkhusband6257 Indeed and it's quite interesting, since on the high end AMD offer a far better performance/price deal even if technically Intel's most powerful processor has a slight edge.
@@drunkhusband6257 Which is insane, like living in the twilight zone when Intel produces better budget CPU when long historically has been trashy.
As always, thanks for adding the mid range GPU options!
Amd's gpu department: "We will enforce pcie 4.0 requirements as the new minimum."
Amd's cpu department: "Nobody needs pcie 4.0."
I have literally sold my i5-9400 for a r5-3600 because a pcie 3.0 cpu and a 8 lane 4.0 gpu (6600xt) is basically as havinga a pcie 2.0 speed :|
@@fuguthefish 8 lane 4.0 is 3.0x16
@@vespa7961 Yes, but used on a 3.0 motherboard you get half of the speed or 2.0
You can buy you Pcie 4.9 and out on board 3.0 if the GPU get enough VRAM we just lose 5-12 fps
Yes! 3600 vs 5800x3d benchmarks would be very interesting.
I've a 3080 with a 3600 and play at 1440p. Thought of getting the 5800x3d, would be interesting to know how they compare at that resolution for single player titles.
Went from a 3600 to a 5900x paired with a 3080 in late 2020. At 1440p the uplift was from 0% to 30%+ depending on the game or part of the game measured. AC:Valhalla showed very little difference while games such as CP2077 and WD Legion where I use RT+DLSS showed up to a 20-25% uplift in certain areas (while driving fast in WD and running in areas with many NPC's in CP2077). Worth mentioning is that even in the games where the uplift was small (less than 5% in avg fps), the games feel more responsive and the number of stutters/hitches/microstutters are fewer.
Examples of uplift at 1440p according to TechpowerUp tested with a 3080 comparing a 3600x to a 5800X3D:
Far Cry 5: 67%
RDR2: 6.3%
Metro Exodus: 3%
Doom Eternal: 3.4%
Civ6: 63%
Borderlands 3: 71%
Battlefield V: 20%
Overall the 5800X3D is on average almost 25% faster than the 3600x at 1440p according to their testing, but as you can see the games varies from almost no difference to "a whole new experience" in performance uplift.
@@MrMeanh i upgraded from 3600 to 5600 micro stutters .almost gone
A better deal would be to sell 3600 for 100$ and add 100 more to buy the 5600. The 5800x3d is overpriced
@@SviatoslavDamaschin definitely not overpriced. It's the best gaming CPU that DDR4 platforms have to offer.
@@DerrickRG 585 euro on amazon eu compared to 316 euro for the 5800x model. That's almost 100% price increase for 15% more performance, it is overpriced, a bad deal, a good cpu only for gaming/monero mining?. 5900x is cheaper
My R5 3600 has been amazing. I'd consider looking for an upgrade, but I need a graphics card more, and those prices are still outrageous.
Thanks Steve - a useful and well considered video. One nitpick - you kept referring to the 3060 when you meant the 3600. Easy mistake to make!
3600 vs 5800 3D would be interesting. With the 3600 having been the best banf for the buck AM4 chip for so long, the 5800X 3D seems like the only Last hurrah upgrade that makes sense, as the 5600 isn't as massive an improvement across the board as a 3600 owner might like to see.
Today the R5 5500 is between 90-110USD.
EXCELLENT DEAL for old chipset upgrade or even a low-range build + old GPU or RX 6600/RTX 3060
found this video very useful thanks!
Great video, thanks a million! ✌🏼😁
I know this is an old video but I'm going to comment anyway!
I've just upgraded from a Ryzen 5 1600x to a brand new in box Ryzen 5 5500 for £86 because of an ebay voucher. I could have spent more for a 5600x but the 5500 costs so little while being massively more power efficient.
Electricity costs are criminal at the moment in the UK, so I will make my money back in no time, as my 1600x is overclocked at 4.1ghz at 1.37v and will hit 125watts of usage, and the 5500 will genuinely be cheaper to run and (painfully to admit) faster than my golden 1600x.
The fact that this is only about as fast as a 3600 isn't an issue for me personally because it was **CHEAP** and better for my needs, while having similar specifications. If I'm lucky I might even be able to get it to overclock, but I doubt it.
Update! The 5500 was DOA, so I went with a 5600 instead. The price was too close without the voucher, and hopefully I won't have the same issue this time around
A CPU that competes with the previous gen part one tier up? That's what I consider the bare minimum for low-end parts. I suspect we've been spoiled with the insane performance upgrades in recent years that we considered the 5500 a poor product.
yes but this product came out this year, and intel's 12th gen have spanked all of amd's products so unless it gave ~5% slower performance than the 5600 it was going to be called a bad product, because why buy an AMD product this late, at this price for this performance?
remember to consider the PRICE which you make zero mention of as well... if this was dirt cheap... then yes it woud be a good entry part... but it isn't
@@jubayerwasidraiyan5874 If you have an older Zen or Zen+ CPU, just about any Zen 3 part that isn't overtly bad is going to be a much more reasonable and cost-effective upgrade path than going full Alder Lake.
@@jubayerwasidraiyan5874 The final nail in the coffin is the lack of integrated graphics (a 5600G at that price could maybe be considered worth the expense, as you at least have something that can be used for diagnostics or an emulation box, unlike a 3600 or 5600 without a discrete GPU).
@@EbonySaints im not saying zen 3 as a whole is bad, im saying this product is bad. It is better to save up more and get a 5600 than get this because this'd just be a waste of money as you're getting previous gen performance
Thank you. Been dealing with crap budget Ryzen problems. I just ordered the 5600 thanks to your insight. Wish me luck!
My entire pc is all pcie 3.0 so the whole "lack of pcie 4.0" doesn't matter to me. Also.. I'm getting this ryzen 5 5500 upgrade for free as a gift to replace my R3 3200g, so I cant complain. Plus.. all I care about is making my pc fast enough for games to be playable at medium settings. I run at a pretty low resolution anyways using an overclocked out-of-the-box gt 1030 from evga. people always complain saying... "oh this part right here is crap".. yet they don't really take the time to think how bad other people have it. some people cant afford an expensive gaming rig and appreciate what upgrades they get.. even if they are small.
Now that the 5500 is hitting $80 USD, it's a solid deal depending on the games you play (when upgrading from Zen, Zen+, or trying to put together a budget platform)
Amazing cpu though I bought the 5500 with Asus prime B550M-A (non-wifi version) as bundle for $150 AUD and they both were used- like new condition as the previous owner used for a bit then decided to upgrade immediately. It is a great cpu for mid-range GPUs. Sadly I have to upgrade as well since I am going for 4070 ti or 4080 so I am looking for a great cpu that matches my next gpu upgrade to avoid bottleneck.
I put together an "Odd jobs" computer so I can game while I have another computer doing other tasks. The 5500 is pretty damn good at that role.
i got a 5500 for 60
I just got done putting together a r 5500 rtx 3060 build ended up being a great 1080p rig was even able to get 200mhz oc on the 5500 with a tower cooler
Sadly here in Italy the 5500 (new) is generally cheaper than the used 3600. The second hand market is really toxic here.
In the Netherlands the same.
Hey I like your video new subscriber btw
One question I have AMD Athlon 3000g would you recommend the Ryzen 5 5500 ?
My GPU Is RX 6600 8GB
I'll be doing some minor editing for my gameplays as well
This processor got some pretty steep discounts in the Canadian market near the end of 2022 making it very enticing. It has a really nice performance increase from a 3200g my son's computer had. That computer's upgrade path is pretty abnormal though as I built it to be extremely basic as a teaching tool on how a computer works, how to trouble shoot and what parts do what.
I'd also be keen on a 3600X vs 5800X3D comparison.
I have been thinking about it too, it's an expensive CPU but getting a next gen mobo with DDR5 memory would also cost a bit even if the Zen 4 6C should end up cheaper than the 5800X3D
3600 vs 3600 XT vs 5800X3D. Why not.
@@raresmacovei8382 benchmarking 3600xt would literally be a waste of time
In gaming, 3600X is just tiny bit faster than 3600, about the same as 8-core 3700X, so naturally it will lose in absolutely everything. Often significantly, unless a GPU bottleneck exists.
For most AM4 owners on a limited budget, *5600* or 8-core 5700X (similar gaming performance) would be smarter buys.
Sure, 5800X3D is even faster than 5800X (on average, for gaming) and thus more future proof (for gamers). But if we take that road... does your motherboard support PCIe 4.0 (X570, B550) for faster future GPU and SSD's? Currently, you need Intel for PCIe 5.0.
Or perhaps one can wait for couple of months, to see what kind of performance jumps are offered by Zen 4 (Socket AM5, DDR5...) and 13th Gen Intel (same Socket, LGA 1700).
Really impressed that AMD's 5500 manages 3060-like performance. It's not often you see budget class CPUs competing with budget class GPUs from the same generation.
I doubt many got your humor. I noticed that as well. Less informed people wouldn't have noticed these gaffs. Hard to keep track of all the similar naming going on. 5700XT or 5700X, 3600 or 3060,etc.
Lovely video. Planning on Upgrading my 1070Ti-> Some budget RTX card and R5 3600 -> some Zen3 cpu at some point :) Love this platform, wish I just had the money for upgrades :D
The RTX 20 Series but here is one you wanna look at: RTX 2070 super is easy to find up on eBay and you can look up comparisons to compare with others.
3050, 3060, 3060 ti, 6600, 6600xt. All of those would be viable upgrades. I wouldn't go for an older 20 series, not worth the price/performance ratio.
I’m glad my prebuilt came with the R5 3600. Two years later. Still running strong. First gaming computer too, and it has not disappointed
As someone sitting on a R7-1700x, I have long been considering the R5-3600, but they seemed to be on par with eachother.
As it stands, it would seem that the only 6 core CPU I could look forward to is R5-5600 and 5600X, the other upgrades being R7 or even R9, which in my opinion, are overkills for basic gaming needs.
I upgraded from a 1700 to a 5600X and there's a substantial performance increase.
The 3600 is a bit faster than 1700x in multicore applications even though its 6 vs 8 cores.. It demolishes the 1700 in singlecore performance. I would expect about 30% gain in gaming with the 3600 and 40% with the 5600x depending on your gpu..
Yeah, go on and do 3600 vs 5800x3d. That's what I have been thinking to do for a while, just need some numbers to see if I should, or wait for AM5/Intel 13th gen
AM5 will be DDR5 only though. I'd stick with AM4 until DDR5 matures a bit.
it makes sense many of us 3600 owners didn't see the 5600 as a jump big enough so the 5800X3D is the most interesting option
Thank you Steve I was wondering how these two chips stack up.
The only channel to include acc among their games. Thank you!
The ryzen 5500 is only 90 bucks and I only have a 1050ti right now so I think it will fit me until I upgrade my graphics card
The biggest difference between Zen 2 and Zen 3 is the unified cache, so it makes sense that a Zen 3 CPU with half the cache is very similar to the Zen 2 one
And IPC, isn't it? In productivity, the gap between both generations in actual pro apps is quite significant.
Now its under $100 I flashed my bios on my B450M Pro4 R2.0 up graded my ram to 32gb of 3200 installed 5500 and it runs great I'm not a big gamer I do photography an Photoshop and I have a GTX 1650 4gb card and WD Black NVME 3.0 nothing high end and couldn't be happier
Recently built a budget gaming PC for a friend using a 5500 and 6600, happy with the performance for what I paid for each. Wanted new parts, not old/used parts.
Bought the 5500 as an upgrade for the good old R3 1200 ( non AF), on a B450 board. Was on sale for 115€, 20€ cheaper than 3600.
Edit: 3DMark Time Spy CPU Score 8384
CPU-Z Single Thread 608 Multithread 4856
CInebench 11132
all with 3200 2x8GB 16-19-19-38 Ram
Huge upgrade
The final thoughts section is well done and very usefull. 👌
especially the part for who it is worthwhile or not.
maybe even consider a slide for visualisation like that:
◽new system builder (as cheep as possible) --> 12100F (cheaper, more performance, better upgradepath)
◽old system upgrade (quad-core, 1200, 1300X, 1400, 1500X, 3100, 3300X) --> 5500 possible (but 5600 recommanded if spending 40 more $ is affordable)
◽old system upgrade (2600, 3600) --> 5600 (because 5500 is mostly not really an upgrade)
those informations provided by you are peak-content (thank you for that👍) and would stand out even more and would be more easy to comprehend for the viewer.
i love what you do, keep on dooing 😍
i want to upgrade to 5600 but does asrock ab350 pro 4 support them?
great work Steve, can we now get a 250 games all GPU from 1630 up to 4090 comparison when they launch? :D
Can't wait to see how RUclips subtitles mess with "monitors unboxed". Awaiting the shirt lmao.
I just ordered a 5500 and I really am not to upset cuz my last cpu is a fix 8350 so anything Ryzen is an upgrade and maybe finally my gtx 1060 6gb can stretch its legs more tho I do run games at higher resolution to help with the cpu bottleneck it really depends I got a deal on the 5500 for 115 us and i can’t complain less than I paid for my fix 8350 it was 120 new 8 years ago
looking to upgrade to 5500 from my 1700, running on x370 so i can't even get a use of pcie 4.0 since my boards is old, so 5500 makes a ton of sense for my case
Nice upgrade
@@mtaufiqn5040 i got a 3700x instead
I just searched this like 3 hours ago to check the improvement. You magician 😎
Thanks. I was considering 5500 and up my gpu budget for my new PC. Now I can make a better decision. Appreciate the efforts 💛
As a proud user of Ryzen 5 3600 I can confirm that it indeed is a great processor in terms of price:quality. It sometimes is too slow for modern games, the processor being from 2019 itself, but overall it gives a really good performance
Since yours is a newer comment, the 3600 is a good CPU.
However since AMD is going to stop making Zen 2 (Yes AMD still makes older skus), the 3600 is going to disappear and the 5600 has taken its place for the $150 range product for which it's MUCH better than the 3600 when priced the same.
The 5500 is now a $100 part.
When buying AMD, patience is always a virtue. Of course if you ALWAYS have to be at the leading edge this doesn't apply, but then again neither does holding onto a CPU that's 2 generations old and gets butt stomped by new gen parts.
John Doh i found 3600 with 100$ new not used, and in this video 3600 as the same performance 5500 .and i have already b450m so what do you recomanded?
3600 / 100$ OR 5500 / 120$
@@hadi2693 I personally would go with the newer 5500 (if I remember correctly, it was released in 2022), but when I grabbed my pc the 5500 simply did not exist
@@maksymokolot4648 thats mean i should update my bios to support 5500?
@@hadi2693 I actually am not sure, since I don't know anything about BIOS updates😅
Even with AM5 and 7000 series CPUs released I'm sure the R5 3600 will be holding itself quite solid!
The lack of intensive CPU game, like some PC exclusive games and games where CPU speed is important more than just for a few fps but for the time you WAIT like Civilization or Paradox Interactive games, is still, to my opinion, the thing that held back your otherwise perfect review !
Great video, thank you for your informations.
I wonder how the 5500 does against the 10400f, which can be bought for $123 these days
I would love a comparison between 3600 and 5800X3D!
Should be 30% faster
@@OrjonZ more like 50%+
Tldr; the 5800X3D is faster, by shitloads.
They could do this but the 5800X3D would be taken away and locked up for murder.
two mounts ago i buy my first gaming pc whith ryzen 5 5500 and a520 motherboard and i am verry happy
I was just considering upgrading my ryzen 3600 . Ty for the review
The 5500 is a good chip, overall, although you can do better if you are building a new computer. However, if you just want to upgrade from a Zen or Zen+ cpu, this can be worth it.
It's a giant waste of money. Save $20-30 and buy a 5600, and if someone can't do that they shouldn't be spending money on their computer in the first place.
@@joemarais7683 Agreed.
5500 is 5600G without Vega GPU.
I bought the 5500 and ASRock B450M MOBO combo from Newegg for $200 USD. I got a RX580 8gb model for $250 USD from EBay and HP memory was on sale at Newegg along with a $80 USD NVME drive. Upgraded from a FX8350E an MSI 900 Gaming MOBO it’s been a great upgrade so far.
Yes would love to see 3600 vs 5800x3D. Thanks for the content!!! If possible would like to see apex chart in the video of the 3600 vs 5800x3D.
Just upgraded to a 5500 from an R5 2600. That's considering a used 3600 is similar in price, and a 5600 was 35% more expensive with just 15% performance upgrade in games. And i'm satisfied with it. managed to get a whopping 30% upgrade in minimum fps to 77 from 57 on Far Cry 6 benchmark. On the actual gameplay the poor 2600 even dropped to the low 50s sometimes, and that's all practically solved with the 5500 keeping above 60 at all times.
Far cry 6 benchmark means nothing for minimums. It glitches at the start setting the minimum. You could have a 5800x3d and get lower minimum that an r3 1200 because it's literally just a shitty broken engine. That's pretty much truthful for almost all built in benchmarks tho. Actually playing and recording avg and minimums with msi afterburner or something and repeating the same gameplay is a much better comparison. Also far cry performs like trash on ryzen no matter what cpu you have. Has some areas where performance just plummets for no reason until you leave that area. Performs drops on Intel too but far far less.
@@MrDutch1e Actually, The glitch at the start likely don't get recorded in the benchmark anymore, because even the 2600 gets at least 80fps in the start. I've tested both CPU dozens of times so it's not just a fluke. It's consistent. The lowest fps will appear always at the explosion caused by the tank at the end of the test. And there's no performance plummeting in the game anymore, it's just normal fps drops in heavier populated areas like the base and towns.
the 5500 is shipped with a relatively low clock. A test with 4650mhz would be interesting.
why? 95% of users only use stock CPUs and GPUs.
You guys have a merch store? I bought a couple of the hardware unavailable shirts when they first came out, and I know they aren’t available anymore. I was wondering because of the coffee mug.
5500s going for $85 on Amazon right now. Simply unbeatable value!
well... my 5500 just arrived to replayce my 2600x, meh.
Anyway, at 125€ it's not a bad deal, considering that I can sell my 2600x for 90-100€.
It'll be interesting though how fast I can now clock my rev-e memoy on my 2-dimm a320 board, and how much extra performance that increased bandwith gains. my 2600x hit a wall for the IMC at DDR4 3200 and in order to run it 1000% stable I had to downclock it to 3133 Mbit/s
Thats all i am interested in really. Can it hold IF at 2000, 2100, 2200 etc so i can piss about with my microns
I'm running a 2600X. Also hit the wall with not being able to run 3200 memory. I'm looking to upgrade. Currently on an Asus strix b450-F rev.1. I was thinking about the 5500. Should I skip it and get 5600? I'm also using a GTX1080
if it just arrived can possibly still return it, no idea what area you are in specifically but I have seen 170 euro 5600 CPUs here in germany but at 125 the 5500 is more attractive than at 140 for sure
@@mOddEdLiKeHeLL I would def go with the 5600, as Steve said in the video the L3 cache makes a difference that you will notice more the faster your GPU is. For 1080p gaming a GTX 1080 is still very usable so I think the 5600 would open up more options to eventually upgrade CPU and switch to 1440p
@@warlordwossman5722 thanks for the quick reply! I will aim for the 5600. The L3 definitely makes it the worthwhile. I recently bought the GTX1080 because it was cheap and a better upgrade to my previous GTX1060. I don't plan on holding it for a long time but a bridge to something better later. It's definitely a good 1080p card. In Apex legends, I'm able to do 1440p low with over 100fps on the ground. airdrop, hits like 50-60fps. I have tested WOW and genshin impact with great results but those are easy to run games. I have not tested any other games but I'm sure those games, I will not get the same results as Apex.
so TL,DR - 2 good news:
1. R5 3600 owners are perfectly fine and dont need to care for a while
2. really old ( 1st gen Ryzen ) users that wanna upgrade and save every $ / € possible, can buy 3600 on E-Bay and save some money aswell.
Thank you Steve 😎👍
I have the 3600 which i bought used for 150$CAD during the price hikes of the 5600x when it was like 450$CAD.
Now I'm looking for an end game cpu and reasonably I'm looking at the 5700x, however the 5800x3D would be more relevant for longer i think?
A comparison of the 3600 to all current 5000 series, in a gpu scaling video would be EPIC!
Although I'm thinking the biggest gains over the 3600 will be cpu intensive multiplayer games, which i do dabble in at 1440p.
I have had the 1600af since I bought it for $85(don’t remember, it was something lower than the r3 1200 it replaced) back when it was released. Just bought the 5600x and gonna rock that setup for the next 5 years until am6 comes out and ddr5 is about to be replaced by ddr6 lmao
Why not comparing R5 3500?
yeah 5500 kinda sucks not gonna lie
Steve! You are notably reliable for MSFS.... I guess it was a timing/update thing. Glad ya'll busy : )
Add: Uh, pretty sure more of us would like to see X3D or any new one.... but ya'll doing the work, so pick the best that has most return for ya'll, imo.
The Lego is on point. Also great review.
3600 vs 3D yes please! It looks like the ultimate upgrade for future me, I'd love to see that.
I'd like to see some CPU benchmarks with raytracing enabled in the future. CPU bottlenecks have actually been a common problem for me while using RT on my 3700x + RTX 3080 system.
Intel.
The R5 5500 was a worth while upgrade from my R7 1700. Got it for $130 new on a Newegg coupon. Performs better in everything all around.
Love the B Roll!!
When I compared prices on eBay vs Amazon / New Egg, I found used B350 and B450 barely cheaper than new B550 boards. I also found that used Ryzen 5 3600X CPU to be barely cheaper than new Ryzen 5 5500 CPUs. Also many of the used CPUs do not appear to have their Wraith Stealth Coolers anymore. You add the cooler in and the Ryzen 5 3600x may very well then jump to being more expensive than the Ryzen 5 5500. You also will get something of a warranty with the new CPU and motherboards.
At only $130CAD the 5500 is a great deal! Just ordered one for a build I'm putting together for a customer. Light gaming and artwork is her major uses
Tysm for this one, 3600 owner here, even the 5600 hmm might pass over into next gen..
Cant really justify the upgrade as playing titles at lower refresh rate, 60Hz TV @4k. Its fine things like GTA with a 3060 are do-able, with the correct settings
- Theres a youtube clip for 3060 and GTA 5 online settings - if anyone coming along after this reads this.
I hope that when the rest of the 5xxx3D chips get released, the 5500 gets a price drop and essentially turns into what the 1600af was, entry level 6 core for $90-100 that uses a motherboard compatible with the higher end chips. I'd imagine going from a 5500 to a 5600X3D would still give a pretty good improvement.
Would love to see a 3600X vs the 5800X3D. Was literally thinking of doing this exact upgrade lol
good to know i can sit on my 3600 for a little while longer. hasn't felt like a bottleneck yet except when mutlitasking a bit, it can get slightly hot, but i cleaned up the case and reapplied paste and it feels just like new.
hoping to get 4k test result in the future
Definitely interested in the comparison between 3600 and the 5800X3D
Nice comparison video.
As of the date of this post the Ryzen 5 5500 can now be had for $81 on amazon which makes it a solid budget CPU now.
If you do do the 5800X3D again could you consider an extra simulation style game like factorio with many moving parts? Stellaris would be a good one to add but you would need a late game save to test it properly. I could give you more info and a way to test if you want.
Your testing is out of this world. So far ahead of the competition. Your title of benchmark God remains undisputed.
Do you have any test data for higher end RAM with the 5500? I know it doesn't scan for budget buyers but the new APUs have a stronger memory controller than the regular 5000 series.
I would really like to see a Ryzen 7 from first generation comparison to 5600 (and maybe other options, like the 5800X3D). I own a 1800x and I've been looking forward to upgrading to another zen process from the 5000 family, just in doubt between going high end or jute the 5600.
The issue here is mainly the price, it seems. For me, in Poland, the 5500 is 150USD with VAT included, while 5600 is 212USD. When i put it like that, it doesn't sound that bad, right? But for me, it's 679PLN vs 958PLN, so 279PLN difference, or roughly 10% of the country's median monthly income. That does start to sound, like the 5600 is MUCH more expensive. And that means, the 5500 is a great value option for people like me. The difference between the two is almost the cost of a 16GB kit of RAM.
The used market? Not much better. 3600 usually goes for around 550-600PLN/122-133USD, so around the price of a NEW 5500 or even a new 3600 (which costs on par or is more expensive than the 5500), and that's for a used CPU. Wouldn't be a problem with an Intel CPU, but since AMD still has the pins on the CPU, their condition matters, so buying used online is risky.
Core i3 12100f? With it's 4c/8t is not a great option for someone, that uses the PC for things other than gaming, or likes to have stuff open in the background.
So, in the end, 5500 is still a great part, assuming the price is right. At $62 difference, the 5600 is just too expensive.