i never knew...the way he dumbs himself down for TS Madison...i would have never known how articulate this man is...definitely motivational speaker vibes
I think bisexual white/Latin men are more prevalent and accepted but for some reason it’s scrutinized in black men. People constantly police black mens behavior. David Bowie was married to Iman for years And it was never a huge topic. So many other rock stars as well but let and R&b singer or rapper say he is bisexual and watch the fall out. Black men are fetishized with such hyper masculinity and sexuality that any degree of “softness” to that image is seen as a threat or distasteful. And that extends right down the spectrum you have to be all the way fem or completely hetero. So a bisexual male resting in the middle or towards the hetero Side causes major disruption in the phycology of others.
All that shit goes back to the history of slavery and how the bodies of black man were reduces down to problematic ideas coming from the white psyche. Black men were dehumanized in a way that many of us can't even begin to imagine. I've started to believe that what happened during chattel slavery its that the Black male body was placed into the same position that White people's proto-indo European ancestors once placed bovine's/horses.........Black men were to be either a Beast of Burden that's used to work the soil to produce crops & the physical embodiment of raw sexual masculine energy; a living phallic symbol.
In all honesty as a feminine gay man I prefer bisexual man. In my experience they were less critical of my femininity. In fact many of them really enjoyed that side of me
Exactly. I'm a bisexual woman with a masculine presenting lesbian girlfriend and I really enjoy her androgyny. And she prefers bisexual women for that reason.
I can agree with that. My boyfriend is bisexual and he loves both my masculine and feminine side. I've pretty much dated bisexual guys... It's like I naturally attract them. They say I give the best of both worlds. I was like oh ok lol
This guy was very intelligent and very articulate about his bisexuality. I loved it. As a gay man who has, for a very long time been sceptical of bisexual people, especially men, I am starting to appreciate these conversations so I can better understand bisexual people in general. 👌
There are a lot of us Women who are absolutely attracted to bisexual Men. And [at least amongst my girlfriends] we go hard for y’all in social settings and conversations. Trust.
Cannot tell you how many times I've had to defend black men's bisexuality. There are women who just want a good man that treats us right and has emotional intellect. His sexual orientation is the last thing on our minds lol
What David said at the end is so important for self-realization. Come out to yourself and accept yourself and fully love yourself. Once you get to that point, you wouldn't really be coming out to anyone else. It would be more like inviting others in to see who you are. It may take a while to get through that introspective phase, but everything becomes a lot more clear once you do.
As a Bi man coming more into my bisexuality in my 30's, I appreciate and resonate with this perspective so heavy! I came out as gay in my early 20's and later realized I just accepted a program of others' perspective of me and internalized it, feeling trapped before realizing this spectrum of our sexuality that allows me the freedom to be less defined and limited. I also feel heavy pressure around that topic of dealing with Women who may harbor some biphobia or resentments. So it's been a challenge connecting with alot of women at this time.
Thanks for sharing. As a hetero woman I've been attracted to men I "perceived" as bisexual but never even considered acting upon it. I don't think for me it's tied to resentment as much as it is already overwhelming being a black woman with restrictive beauty standards. I never liked dating because feeling compared to other women, or being objectified, led to feelings of inadequacy. Thus in my mind dealing with a bisexual man would bring double the pressure
A HETEROSEXUAL WOMAN WHO LIKES BISEXUAL MEN. I love that. I think she finds herself attracted to a kind of man who would be the kind of man who lives in a kindness and a kind of skin that would live his life bisexually. THIS IS AN EXQUISITE CONVERSATION. Evolution ALL AROUND!
Listen!!! I'm east coast. Real Sex was every Thursday at 11pm on HBO. And I loved MTV'S Undressed. Taxicab Confessions and Hookers at The Point! What a time to grow up in!
@@thoughtsandwords3029 lol i remember hookers on point lol that was when reality tv was real. There was no clout in being on the show it was just real people telling real Stories
One of my favorite videos I've seen this entire year. Such an important conversation, and I really, really, really hope it can reach the youth in the Black community - gay or straight - man or woman or any other gender. Thanks Obio.
For the ignorant people in the comments, being bisexual for a man is no different than a women being bisexual, just like a women can have sex and experiment with women then go fall in love with a man and have a loyal relationship family and life or vice versa, a man can do the same too, there's no need to say make sure you're honest about your "lifestyle" , it's not a life style, it's simply something that turns you on or you are open to if you are NOT already in love and in a happy relationship ... And let's be clear, ANY and everybody can cheat, cheating is not only secluded towards one gender or one class of people. And there's nothing to be confused about, it's simple, if you are bisexual you have the ability and the natural hormonal make up to be sexually turned on by BOTH genders, why do people make it so much more complicated when it's on the topic of men being bi-sexual, they just start making up and assuming sh*t, and it's annoying AF, it's like their trying to play stupid and force double standards.
I hear what you are saying. In my experience men who say they are bisexual want to date both the girl & I at the same time. ALL the time. I am yet to meet a guy, in real life, who does what you are describing.
@@sizakunene3056 I hear you too But in MY experience that wasn't always the case, there are plenty faithful men who can openly admit they find both genders attractive, finding something attractive doesn't automatically equal to cheating, and doesn't mean the women has to compete with other men either, cause there is no competition or thought in mind to compare the two, it's two different worlds of attractiveness and if you are truly committed and loyal to a person regardless, you are not gonna cheat, no matter what your sexuality is..... and when I originally made my comment I was mainly focused on letting ignorant people in the comments know that there "is" a such thing as men being sexually attracted to women and men BOTH and they should be called properly by what they are which is bisexual and some are even pansexual, meaning they are just attracted to people in general...... and also men are notorious for cheating regardless, but NOT every man is like that, just like not every women is faithful, there are plenty lustful women too who will sleep with other women, other men and other people's man!😄 Even if they are already in a relationship, I've seen it toooo many times, this is a big world, we have to look at it as a whole and not just what we see in our narrowly scoped lives... The TRUTH is the entire picture and ALLL the details of it..... Also both bisexual men and women have been around since forever, it's proven in history, and there are bisexual and gay animals in the animal kingdom, so I feel like whatever naturally occurs without effort is NORMAL to me and people should see that as common sense, and of course being straight is normal as well and important for creating life, (cause I know people will bring that up too)😄, ANY sexuality on the spectrum is normal.... it's just double standards, religion and dogmatic people in society try really hard to convince people otherwise ... And I don't condone cheating❌, if you love someone, be with them and only them and both parties should be able to be real about what they find attractive without the double standards, and my mind will NEVER change on that...... I know I mentioned things that you personally did not say, but I just wanted to address EVERYTHING allll in one to make it CLEAR how I feel about it ALLL.
@@realn.w.a554 I hear everything that you are saying. You are very fortunate to have met such bisexual men & women in real life. I wish I could. I would literally move to that country. 😄 Where I live, generally, & I am grossly over generalizing here, most people are promiscuous. Interestingly, I don't necessarily believe in imposing monogamy. I understand that monogamy doesn't come naturally to everyone either. I strongly believe in 'live and let live', but be honest & upfront about it. I like the idea of 1 person loving me & me loving that 1 person back, but what are we to do when people want to love more than 1 person at the same time. 🤷♂️ But I wouldn't say that monogamy is how things 'should' be, as you have said, but I understand that this is just your personal belief & you are not saying that's how it must be for everyone.
@@sizakunene3056 You still don't get it😄, one of the few things that gave it away was you saying it's "my" belief at the end of your comment, rather than looking at the factual & practical things I laid out verbosely in detail lol....but what we CAN agree on is we allll have our own experience and everybody is unique in the way we grasp the truth and how sexuality works, nobody's wrong, because we can only understand what we can, or sometimes only what we want to understand, thanks for commenting your perspective, I enjoy these kinds of topics💯
I can’t thank you enough for the vid, I just barely see any talks about bisexuality and it was so nice and refreshing to hear from another persons experience😭. I feel the constant pull of two agendas but this video has helped me realise that it’s all about being you and not having to abide by other peoples expectations. Again,Thanks for the vid❤️
This was an amazing conversation. I could even see some similarities in how the gay community views verse men like how people view bisexual men when it’s comes to dating history. Maybe that could be a conversation to be explored on the show? Can’t wait to see what we get next week.
he's very articulate about it. I've known many bi guys & it takes them along time to feel OK with it. There is always this understandable secrecy around their sexuality because people want to put you in a box. On top of it, he's a super hot man, surely both men & women approach him in droves He's an incredible guy. More power to you
I'm Bisexual - and I had to hide it around my gay friends. I would get bash, or someone would try to convince me that I was Gay. You would hear words like your Gay, just admit it ex. I felt boxed-in my early 20s. I remember this one moment when someone Identified me as a trade or DL - which wasn’t the case, it was funny how they did that. I also remember someone saying to me that I thought I was lying to myself, and to add on to it - Since I don't use gay langos, this guy had a problem with it - he said I was gay, and it's part of the culture, stop trying not to fit. I had to laugh and when I told him I was BI he started to act different. This was years ago - I'm in my 30s now, hopefully things have change. It's almost like the LBT+ acronyms doesn't matter - but the G. That's why I never really did cared about identifying myself growing up - and I am grateful I did not, because if I did Lord knows my mental state would of killed me.
@Philly5641 I completely sympathize with you brother. Now, i have no problem identifying myself as a man who is sexually attracted to and who sex with men. "Gay" if that is what you want to call it. But as a slightly older brother, i really really am finding it difficult to identify with and support TODAY'S whole LgbTQ movement. It just seems like they are so into extremes and indentity politics and pronouns. But when you actually get around them and the cameras and phones are off, the connectedness and intimacy is absent. I don't care how much so called freedom and opennes there is now, i felt more connected to the community back in the 90s and early 2000s. We were more social and you felt the connectedness.
Respectful sir, your sexual preference is your business and yours alone. Those "friends" that made you feel like you had to hide whatever you identity as aren't your true friends. Kudos to you for being proud of who you are, and if others cannot understand where you are coming from. That's thier lose not yours. Be safe, and stay strong.✌🏿
@@dabigd1860 At times, what we older people see as political correctness is just respect. We were used to accepting how others chose to identify us and often just being disrespected without speaking up for ourselves. There absolutely was more of a community in the past, when you were forced to rely on each other. Same with the Black community as a whole.
I'm a bisexual brown guy. I'm Indian-American so I'm glad to be able to watch something like this. I'm often worried about how I any women I date or hook up with woul react to me telling me them that I'm bi even though I most women are accepting of that & given that many women are also bisexual nowadays
For me the trepidation is tied to beauty standards and constantly feeling compared to other women, so adding another gender in my mind would contribute to those pressures
This video gets a 10/10! 👍👍Not only are these beautiful chocolate men a treat to look at, but more importantly they are intelligent too. This was a great, enlightening conversation!! 👏🏽👏🏽
he is really well spoken. im a bisexual woman and he’s clearly stated some points that I’ve struggled to communicate. i also think its interesting to see a bisexual male’s pov as opposed to bisexual women, especially feminine presenting bi women
Obio, your channel is one that is underrated and should be more appreciated. It's enlightening, informative,classy, you look amazing by the way,and it's nice to see a man representing LGBT in a way that has never been disrespectful in any form. Congratulations on your success and keep shining bright sir.
I really needed to see this today! I just had a conversation with a friend about how I identify and it’s changing but I’m still navigating what that means and this video really helped!!✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽 Always great and helpful content!!
I truly appreciated hearing and watching this informative exchange presented by these two very educated, erudite and gorgeous BROTHERS. I hope many young Black males... and other males as well...who are in pursuit of understanding their sexual orientation and desire, WATCH THIS VIDEO. PLEASE!
I appreciate this converation, as a 32M who just recently came to terms with his bisexuality and how I must be honest about it if I am ever going to have a long lasting healthy relationship, I feed off this energy. I am currently trying to find the self love within myself and not hold myself to any standards set upon me by external forces. Unfortunately I lost a good woman during my awakening but I pray that is all makes sense in the end. About a year into this self-love journey and things are starting to turn around for the better. Thank you for holding this space for us who are currently at the beginning of our journies.
Not done but already this is a great episode and conversation! Edit: After finishing there were so many gems in this episode. Thanks for having him on!
Very intelligent conversation. Beauty and Brains. They looked so damn good WTF. Always have loved David. Great job Obio. QUESTION: Could you introduce your guest or at least put their names or profile name somewhere. I typically watch on my smart TV so I don't usually see the description. Thanks!
I'm very proud of David for clearing the air about his true identity as a bisexual man. What a great episode. As a proud gay man, it's time for all of us to be truthful about our truths of our sexualities and own it. Great job fellas. David is a cool guy.
Hey Obio,this is my 1st introduction to ur channel & I actually enjoyed the structure of the conversation & how u allow the guests 2 really get their thoughts out while still asking the questions that I want answers to..This man is very articulate & honest man & I appreciated this interview.I am not a curious about my sexuality but I do want to learn about these topics in general to understand people from different perspectives..Peace & blessings to u & ur platforms & I am now a new subscriber ❤️👏🏾💯✌🏾
Honesty is most important, responsible and respectful in terms of dealing with blk women. Give them the opportunity to walk away given the high risk factor within blk community. Too many cases and statistics are harmed and increased by hiding your attraction.
Another BANGER! Great job, Bro! I identify with the topic a great deal - even knowing what "Real Sex" is...LOL. Keep them coming. Your impact is making waves!
Love this video! Bisexual woman here and living in authenticity can be so freeing. It's been a long road to feel comfortable being openly bisexual. So many weird and inappropriate comments or conversations. Bi-erasure is such a thing. That last bit taking time to share while working on affirming your truth to yourself is so spot on. Thank you gentlemen for such an enlightening conversation!
I just came across ur page and immediately I gave a one minute listening ear to it I liked it, I’m from west Africa Nigeria precisely and fancy when y’all are out spoken about stuffs like this cause damn down here u better not try it cause it’s illegal so basically living under a shell is just so hard but watching and seeing videos like this kinda gives a high hope to the future and what it holds for us here, so yea thank you. And u just got a new subscriber 🔥🔥🌈🌈
In my country South Africa 🇿🇦 Bisexuals are very much of a confusion. Being bisexual is not a bad thing, however when u fall in love with either man/woman, just set the record straight and make your potential partner understand how u’ll live your life while you’re in a relationship with him/her. Be mature about it and don’t waste no ones time!
P, your statement is very generalizing. Also... regardless of sexuality, one should disclose what kind of relationship they want or how they'll behave upfront. I'm SAn too by the way 😉
@@nonzengluphoni9289 that’s exactly what I’m all about, generalizing! As a strictly gay guy, bisexuality leaves me with a lot of questions and uncertainty, also I’m not well informed about it, hence I’m saying that, bisexual ppl need to make themselves clear to their potential partners who don’t understand bisexuality like me, and educate them about how they’re going to live their lives and behave while they’re involved with u.
I am 💯 percent is an openly Bi Man. And there are women out there that are attracted to you as is. It is important to walk in your truth frfr. The world does not shape you. You shape the World!
Identifying as bisexual for some (not all), is a step towards accepting one's same sex attraction. Because of this some people have attacked anyone who identifies as bisexual. I say attacking someone who is not attacking you is more a commentary of one's own insecurity and on the low key a need to control and define someone else. I'm too busy defining, refining and re-finding myself to try and limit others. Love this conversation! This should be a mandatory watch for being HUMAN 101.
I knew this was gonna be great but it honestly exceeded my expectations.😮💨 I got a positive perspective shift on bisexuality & about owning my authentic self unapologetically...im beyond satisfied!! 😇
What a very beautiful and educational discussion. I really do feel the struggle for bi community, such tortured souls. I’m glad this dude can free himself from all that stress and just be honest, people that are for you will find you . I wish more people would do that.
Both gentlemen are very intelligent. I always believed there was no such thing as a bisexual man. I thought people claiming this just wanted a more comfortable life, without dealing with the fact they are gay. So, you guys did teach me different. Now, I am a total gay man but will respect someone who says they are bi.
Thank you for this episode, I’ve been struggling with my orientation and dating. I’m still working on being confident in myself… it’s refreshing to hear a healthy perspective 🙏🏾💜
I love bisexual men, but it's hard to find them for some strange reason. Most bi men on the down low and even if they know you accept it they still want to pretend to be straight around women. It's frustrating because I don't like straight men I really just want a bi man to date. I live In Atlanta, I dont think I want these bi men here anyway.
@@Spider7xx The ones I have met meet certain requirements I look for in a man, neat clean cut, smell good, like the metrosexuals. I am a certain way and I expect my man to be a certain way as well, but many straight men don't be caring and like to look rough...a lot of women like that rough look but not me I find myself to be more sexually compatible with them. I feel sexually free without feeling like a weirdo. I have an ass fetish...can't really have an ass fetish with a straight man. I like the dual nature. I love a masculine man that's in touch with his feminine side. I find it soooo sexy, and I am able to connect with them more. I love gay porn ....I prefer it. I am like a bisexual man in a woman's body 🤷🏽♀️
What a refreshing conversation. You guys are awesome. Really appreciated what you said about saying that you identify as a gay man instead of saying that you identify as bisexual despite the fact that you really are bisexual, because you are not trying to downplay your attraction to men or make anyone feel more comfortable about that fact. I've never heard a bisexual person say something like that before.
I love this episode it pulled on my emotions a little bit but really allowed me to see the reality of being bisexual and why my bisexual friend do/feel how they do
Damn he brought the church into it to get himself to ultimately feel more comfortable even telling her just to lighten up the load. God said nope that’s not what I was telling you to do. The open and upfront a guy is the more I’m attracted to him. Don’t tell me stuff just ‘cause you think it’s what I want to hear NO what do I NEED to know about you to so we’re not building off a lie.
Thank you Obio! I connect with everything being said in this video and I'm so grateful you are pushing these conversations and content out there. It's well over due and incredibly needed! Excellent discussion 👏🏾
How is it possible that these 2 black men are sooo...beautiful and scrumptious 😋?? I wish I could have met them back in my younger days. I am involved with a Latino/white, handsome and a great man, now. We've been together for over 5 years. He's my everything. He worships me and I him. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
David has awakened! Love the esoteric perspective! Soon what you identify as will be less and less important. No more LGBT…or straight. It will just be “this is what I resonate with most”. Let’s break down the boxes we’ve put ourselves in!
Like the conversation and can never take away how anyone feels about their experience. My opinion is we put too much emphasis on being gay or bi. I'm fascinated how people can have these long drawn out perspectives and experiences that seem like it's overthinking all the time. I never took my sexuality that serious. I just looked at it as I'm just attracted to guys and girls sometimes on a physical level and that is it. Do I care about the world knowing what I prefer no. Do I want to be so involved with the gay community and do all these different things, no. Do I care if a man or woman don't accept me for who I am...no. People just be yourself and don't worry about the next. If you come across those who care about you and you can trust them then f**** with those people. Don't define your life by what other people want to see out of you and you feeling the need to be accepted or to impress. Just simply do what you do. Just live life in the sense of enjoying the world..work and have fun. Keep a short knit of close friends...not a group or try to be in a scene. If you find that one who accepts you and make you happy then go for it, but us gay or bi's got to stop overthinking our sexual preference because it can boil down to looking like we need to please those who tend to be uncomfortable with our type. F*** them but I get people's experience and how they feel..I'm just a different type of gay/bi breed. Nobody has ever made me over analyze myself and what I want.
Whhhaattt!!!...I first listened to the episode, while I was running off to get come lunch for work. when I got back, I wanted to watch it again, but with video and there he is.....King David himself. Very Very VEERRRYYY good episode Obio. I really enjoyed you both in this one.
I gotta say obio as a bi trans man myself I really love your channel and your content. The content you do about the gay community is really insightful for me as someone sort of on the outskirts of that and you have such a chill relaxed demeanor that it makes your content easy to watch.
Why anyone nowadays is not free to be what they want to be and live without judgement I don't know. It is no one else's business. In this day and age you can be anything you like, don't worry about another's perception of you. Great conversation.
I really enjoyed this video one thing though it is easy when you are beautiful and handsome and good looking at both you young men. If you are not as attractive that could be a little bit more difficult or you don't fit in with the normal looks of society whether that's your a little overweight or you suffer from some physical conditions is a little bit more difficult to navigate through such a way. I think I mentioned before that I have a genetic condition called NF1, where I have moles on my chest back and part of my jawline. Being comfortable with oneself is one thing but being with someone who comfortable with themselves so they can be comfortable with you is a totally different thing. I've dated women and I've dated men but staying you comfortable with one thing and then later on finding out that you can't it's really difficult.
This was very good! I have experienced bisexual men getting with women & separating themselves for their entire gay past including friends, flings and lovers then treating those groups with resentment just by them showing up. Always confused at the same time I was like you know what I know so don't fool yourself. It's refreshing to hear the perspective from the other side.
At the end of the day...it's all about being your AUTHENTIC self. Once you find your REAL self the world 🌎 💯 is yours for the taking. At this point, NO ONE can sway or confuse you. Trust and believe...you see things in a whole different way. Stay blessed everyone!! 🙏🏿🙏🏿😎✌🏿✌🏿💋💋
The road of acceptance for all sides is a challenge on multiple levels. I am a 68 year old who spent a decade of my life thinking I was the only guy attracted to my own sex the word GAY meant happy and nothing else. We have come along way and yet still have far to go. Good luck 👍
What a handsome but overall well spoken man. The way he expressed himself is so clear and powerful.
i never knew...the way he dumbs himself down for TS Madison...i would have never known how articulate this man is...definitely motivational speaker vibes
Ditto! I am mesmerized on how clearly expressive this man is❤
I think bisexual white/Latin men are more prevalent and accepted but for some reason it’s scrutinized in black men. People constantly police black mens behavior.
David Bowie was married to Iman for years
And it was never a huge topic. So many other rock stars as well but let and R&b singer or rapper say he is bisexual and watch the fall out.
Black men are fetishized with such hyper masculinity and sexuality that any degree of “softness” to that image is seen as a threat or distasteful. And that extends right down the spectrum you have to be all the way fem or completely hetero. So a bisexual male resting in the middle or towards the hetero Side causes major disruption in the phycology of others.
All that shit goes back to the history of slavery and how the bodies of black man were reduces down to problematic ideas coming from the white psyche. Black men were dehumanized in a way that many of us can't even begin to imagine. I've started to believe that what happened during chattel slavery its that the Black male body was placed into the same position that White people's proto-indo European ancestors once placed bovine's/horses.........Black men were to be either a Beast of Burden that's used to work the soil to produce crops & the physical embodiment of raw sexual masculine energy; a living phallic symbol.
Bingo
I thinks it's harder to TRULY identify as Bi, because I think you don't have the community of support as the other "letters". Just my opinion.
Very good points
Yea and that is entirely sad and close minded of the black community
In all honesty as a feminine gay man I prefer bisexual man. In my experience they were less critical of my femininity. In fact many of them really enjoyed that side of me
Whew 🫶🏾 this right here
Exactly. I'm a bisexual woman with a masculine presenting lesbian girlfriend and I really enjoy her androgyny. And she prefers bisexual women for that reason.
Fr i love attracting bisexuals
I can agree with that. My boyfriend is bisexual and he loves both my masculine and feminine side. I've pretty much dated bisexual guys... It's like I naturally attract them. They say I give the best of both worlds. I was like oh ok lol
I know what you mean and you're absolutely right lol I didn't even peep that Brazen lol
This guy was very intelligent and very articulate about his bisexuality. I loved it. As a gay man who has, for a very long time been sceptical of bisexual people, especially men, I am starting to appreciate these conversations so I can better understand bisexual people in general. 👌
This 👆🏿
There are a lot of us Women who are absolutely attracted to bisexual Men. And [at least amongst my girlfriends] we go hard for y’all in social settings and conversations. Trust.
Gay men are diffrent lol there gay for a reason bi is for women and a men
@@mJ-sm4ss so she ain't got the right to choose?
@@mJ-sm4ss shut up! Bisexual ppl are not in competition with gay men and women. Miss us with your jealous bs.
@@davyhoward7642 people on the internet are bored lol with no life
Cannot tell you how many times I've had to defend black men's bisexuality. There are women who just want a good man that treats us right and has emotional intellect. His sexual orientation is the last thing on our minds lol
When you knew they were fine… then, they turned out to be smart, too 😍😍😍
What David said at the end is so important for self-realization. Come out to yourself and accept yourself and fully love yourself. Once you get to that point, you wouldn't really be coming out to anyone else. It would be more like inviting others in to see who you are.
It may take a while to get through that introspective phase, but everything becomes a lot more clear once you do.
As a Bi man coming more into my bisexuality in my 30's, I appreciate and resonate with this perspective so heavy! I came out as gay in my early 20's and later realized I just accepted a program of others' perspective of me and internalized it, feeling trapped before realizing this spectrum of our sexuality that allows me the freedom to be less defined and limited.
I also feel heavy pressure around that topic of dealing with Women who may harbor some biphobia or resentments. So it's been a challenge connecting with alot of women at this time.
Bi men like you perpetuate conversion rhetoric and directly harm gay men
Thanks for sharing. As a hetero woman I've been attracted to men I "perceived" as bisexual but never even considered acting upon it. I don't think for me it's tied to resentment as much as it is already overwhelming being a black woman with restrictive beauty standards. I never liked dating because feeling compared to other women, or being objectified, led to feelings of inadequacy. Thus in my mind dealing with a bisexual man would bring double the pressure
A HETEROSEXUAL WOMAN WHO LIKES BISEXUAL MEN. I love that. I think she finds herself attracted to a kind of man who would be the kind of man who lives in a kindness and a kind of skin that would live his life bisexually. THIS IS AN EXQUISITE CONVERSATION. Evolution ALL AROUND!
"Real Sex" shout out to the kids who snuck and watched it and MTV's Undressed. If you know...you know. And don't forget Taxicab confessions!
Listen!!! I'm east coast. Real Sex was every Thursday at 11pm on HBO. And I loved MTV'S Undressed. Taxicab Confessions and Hookers at The Point!
What a time to grow up in!
what shows are yall talking about? lol. Never heard of them.
Listen, those shows taught me so much about sex and sexuality. Just honest about sex.
@@cincereqoutes8844 you're on RUclips look them up. May not interest you because they are dated but during that time it was needed.
@@thoughtsandwords3029 lol i remember hookers on point lol that was when reality tv was real. There was no clout in being on the show it was just real people telling real
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One of my favorite videos I've seen this entire year. Such an important conversation, and I really, really, really hope it can reach the youth in the Black community - gay or straight - man or woman or any other gender. Thanks Obio.
Loved this conversation. "Authenticity is going to bring you the outcome."
I haven’t watched this yet but thank you for providing a space for black bisexual men like myself 💗💜💙, as well as other bi+ folx
Everytime that shout music played I laughed.
and i hollered
I saw this comment before starting the video so I was forewarned and it is still TAKING ME OUT, you hear me?!?!?!?!? Lol
I cackled so bad
Listen when I tell you I have laughed at this on today!
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For the ignorant people in the comments, being bisexual for a man is no different than a women being bisexual, just like a women can have sex and experiment with women then go fall in love with a man and have a loyal relationship family and life or vice versa, a man can do the same too, there's no need to say make sure you're honest about your "lifestyle" , it's not a life style, it's simply something that turns you on or you are open to if you are NOT already in love and in a happy relationship ... And let's be clear, ANY and everybody can cheat, cheating is not only secluded towards one gender or one class of people. And there's nothing to be confused about, it's simple, if you are bisexual you have the ability and the natural hormonal make up to be sexually turned on by BOTH genders, why do people make it so much more complicated when it's on the topic of men being bi-sexual, they just start making up and assuming sh*t, and it's annoying AF, it's like their trying to play stupid and force double standards.
I hear what you are saying. In my experience men who say they are bisexual want to date both the girl & I at the same time. ALL the time. I am yet to meet a guy, in real life, who does what you are describing.
@@sizakunene3056 I hear you too But in MY experience that wasn't always the case, there are plenty faithful men who can openly admit they find both genders attractive, finding something attractive doesn't automatically equal to cheating, and doesn't mean the women has to compete with other men either, cause there is no competition or thought in mind to compare the two, it's two different worlds of attractiveness and if you are truly committed and loyal to a person regardless, you are not gonna cheat, no matter what your sexuality is..... and when I originally made my comment I was mainly focused on letting ignorant people in the comments know that there "is" a such thing as men being sexually attracted to women and men BOTH and they should be called properly by what they are which is bisexual and some are even pansexual, meaning they are just attracted to people in general...... and also men are notorious for cheating regardless, but NOT every man is like that, just like not every women is faithful, there are plenty lustful women too who will sleep with other women, other men and other people's man!😄 Even if they are already in a relationship, I've seen it toooo many times, this is a big world, we have to look at it as a whole and not just what we see in our narrowly scoped lives... The TRUTH is the entire picture and ALLL the details of it..... Also both bisexual men and women have been around since forever, it's proven in history, and there are bisexual and gay animals in the animal kingdom, so I feel like whatever naturally occurs without effort is NORMAL to me and people should see that as common sense, and of course being straight is normal as well and important for creating life, (cause I know people will bring that up too)😄, ANY sexuality on the spectrum is normal.... it's just double standards, religion and dogmatic people in society try really hard to convince people otherwise ... And I don't condone cheating❌, if you love someone, be with them and only them and both parties should be able to be real about what they find attractive without the double standards, and my mind will NEVER change on that...... I know I mentioned things that you personally did not say, but I just wanted to address EVERYTHING allll in one to make it CLEAR how I feel about it ALLL.
@@realn.w.a554 I hear everything that you are saying. You are very fortunate to have met such bisexual men & women in real life. I wish I could. I would literally move to that country. 😄 Where I live, generally, & I am grossly over generalizing here, most people are promiscuous. Interestingly, I don't necessarily believe in imposing monogamy. I understand that monogamy doesn't come naturally to everyone either. I strongly believe in 'live and let live', but be honest & upfront about it. I like the idea of 1 person loving me & me loving that 1 person back, but what are we to do when people want to love more than 1 person at the same time. 🤷♂️ But I wouldn't say that monogamy is how things 'should' be, as you have said, but I understand that this is just your personal belief & you are not saying that's how it must be for everyone.
@@sizakunene3056 You still don't get it😄, one of the few things that gave it away was you saying it's "my" belief at the end of your comment, rather than looking at the factual & practical things I laid out verbosely in detail lol....but what we CAN agree on is we allll have our own experience and everybody is unique in the way we grasp the truth and how sexuality works, nobody's wrong, because we can only understand what we can, or sometimes only what we want to understand, thanks for commenting your perspective, I enjoy these kinds of topics💯
@@realn.w.a554 what don't I get? I agree with everything you've said. 🙃
I love this conversation. So nice to see black men intelligent and experienced discussing sexual issues....
I can’t thank you enough for the vid, I just barely see any talks about bisexuality and it was so nice and refreshing to hear from another persons experience😭. I feel the constant pull of two agendas but this video has helped me realise that it’s all about being you and not having to abide by other peoples expectations. Again,Thanks for the vid❤️
Society needs more of these talks with black men! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 so healthy and liberating
This was an amazing conversation. I could even see some similarities in how the gay community views verse men like how people view bisexual men when it’s comes to dating history. Maybe that could be a conversation to be explored on the show? Can’t wait to see what we get next week.
he's very articulate about it. I've known many bi guys & it takes them along time to feel OK with it. There is always this understandable secrecy around their sexuality because people want to put you in a box. On top of it, he's a super hot man, surely both men & women approach him in droves He's an incredible guy. More power to you
the church music is so foul 💀
Not your video being notified to me right under this one 😭😂
I thought I was the only one 💀💀💀💀💀
I'm Bisexual - and I had to hide it around my gay friends. I would get bash, or someone would try to convince me that I was Gay. You would hear words like your Gay, just admit it ex. I felt boxed-in my early 20s. I remember this one moment when someone Identified me as a trade or DL - which wasn’t the case, it was funny how they did that. I also remember someone saying to me that I thought I was lying to myself, and to add on to it - Since I don't use gay langos, this guy had a problem with it - he said I was gay, and it's part of the culture, stop trying not to fit. I had to laugh and when I told him I was BI he started to act different. This was years ago - I'm in my 30s now, hopefully things have change. It's almost like the LBT+ acronyms doesn't matter - but the G. That's why I never really did cared about identifying myself growing up - and I am grateful I did not, because if I did Lord knows my mental state would of killed me.
@Philly5641 I completely sympathize with you brother. Now, i have no problem identifying myself as a man who is sexually attracted to and who sex with men. "Gay" if that is what you want to call it. But as a slightly older brother, i really really am finding it difficult to identify with and support TODAY'S whole LgbTQ movement. It just seems like they are so into extremes and indentity politics and pronouns. But when you actually get around them and the cameras and phones are off, the connectedness and intimacy is absent. I don't care how much so called freedom and opennes there is now, i felt more connected to the community back in the 90s and early 2000s. We were more social and you felt the connectedness.
You get my full support baby. You’re hot too btw. Xoxo
Respectful sir, your sexual preference is your business and yours alone. Those "friends" that made you feel like you had to hide whatever you identity as aren't your true friends. Kudos to you for being proud of who you are, and if others cannot understand where you are coming from. That's thier lose not yours. Be safe, and stay strong.✌🏿
@@dabigd1860 At times, what we older people see as political correctness is just respect. We were used to accepting how others chose to identify us and often just being disrespected without speaking up for ourselves. There absolutely was more of a community in the past, when you were forced to rely on each other. Same with the Black community as a whole.
Bi is a mind set / mix up/ get correct you have the sprit of satan /
I'm a bisexual brown guy. I'm Indian-American so I'm glad to be able to watch something like this. I'm often worried about how I any women I date or hook up with woul react to me telling me them that I'm bi even though I most women are accepting of that & given that many women are also bisexual nowadays
For me the trepidation is tied to beauty standards and constantly feeling compared to other women, so adding another gender in my mind would contribute to those pressures
This video gets a 10/10! 👍👍Not only are these beautiful chocolate men a treat to look at, but more importantly they are intelligent too. This was a great, enlightening conversation!! 👏🏽👏🏽
he is really well spoken. im a bisexual woman and he’s clearly stated some points that I’ve struggled to communicate. i also think its interesting to see a bisexual male’s pov as opposed to bisexual women, especially feminine presenting bi women
Obio, your channel is one that is underrated and should be more appreciated. It's enlightening, informative,classy, you look amazing by the way,and it's nice to see a man representing LGBT in a way that has never been disrespectful in any form. Congratulations on your success and keep shining bright sir.
I just subscribed , I haven't felt so comfortable like this watching men like me , talk about topics I wish were talked about more
I am shook... Obio got kvngdavid to come through! Really great conversation, I enjoyed this.
I really needed to see this today! I just had a conversation with a friend about how I identify and it’s changing but I’m still navigating what that means and this video really helped!!✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽 Always great and helpful content!!
Appreciate folks being able to live their truths. Can I just mention how fine both of these brothers are???
I truly appreciated hearing and watching this informative exchange presented by these two very educated, erudite and gorgeous BROTHERS. I hope many young Black males... and other males as well...who are in pursuit of understanding their sexual orientation and desire, WATCH THIS VIDEO. PLEASE!
I appreciate this converation, as a 32M who just recently came to terms with his bisexuality and how I must be honest about it if I am ever going to have a long lasting healthy relationship, I feed off this energy. I am currently trying to find the self love within myself and not hold myself to any standards set upon me by external forces. Unfortunately I lost a good woman during my awakening but I pray that is all makes sense in the end. About a year into this self-love journey and things are starting to turn around for the better. Thank you for holding this space for us who are currently at the beginning of our journies.
cute story ❤. i hope it turns out rewarding.
Not done but already this is a great episode and conversation! Edit: After finishing there were so many gems in this episode. Thanks for having him on!
Banger video and I can’t be the only one feeling a bit of chemistry 👀
this one hit home for me, thank you Obio for making these videos. You have no idea how much people they touch
Very intelligent conversation. Beauty and Brains. They looked so damn good WTF. Always have loved David. Great job Obio. QUESTION: Could you introduce your guest or at least put their names or profile name somewhere. I typically watch on my smart TV so I don't usually see the description. Thanks!
Great question because loved the conversation and wanted to see more from both individuals but there was no description
OMG.. That's David! I love him. He's on one of my favorite web series show triangle.
I love Triangle too!!!
Me too .i love him and the guy who played clint saunders
I love triangle. Is the show still going on
I used to watch year's ago.
@@wavveytae4181 the creator of the show is sick at the moment so they not filming right now
That praise break pause has me weak.
I'm very proud of David for clearing the air about his true identity as a bisexual man. What a great episode. As a proud gay man, it's time for all of us to be truthful about our truths of our sexualities and own it. Great job fellas. David is a cool guy.
Hey Obio,this is my 1st introduction to ur channel & I actually enjoyed the structure of the conversation & how u allow the guests 2 really get their thoughts out while still asking the questions that I want answers to..This man is very articulate & honest man & I appreciated this interview.I am not a curious about my sexuality but I do want to learn about these topics in general to understand people from different perspectives..Peace & blessings to u & ur platforms & I am now a new subscriber ❤️👏🏾💯✌🏾
Honesty is most important, responsible and respectful in terms of dealing with blk women. Give them the opportunity to walk away given the high risk factor within blk community. Too many cases and statistics are harmed and increased by hiding your attraction.
hetero people have more hiv than bi and gay people
This is too much beauty in one place. I can only watch one of y’all at a time. I can’t focus.
Another BANGER! Great job, Bro! I identify with the topic a great deal - even knowing what "Real Sex" is...LOL. Keep them coming. Your impact is making waves!
this whole video jus indulged me on a lot, and it’s so awakening to finally see some examples & answers that someone like me needed🫶🏻🙌🏼
Love this video! Bisexual woman here and living in authenticity can be so freeing. It's been a long road to feel comfortable being openly bisexual. So many weird and inappropriate comments or conversations. Bi-erasure is such a thing.
That last bit taking time to share while working on affirming your truth to yourself is so spot on. Thank you gentlemen for such an enlightening conversation!
I just came across ur page and immediately I gave a one minute listening ear to it I liked it, I’m from west Africa Nigeria precisely and fancy when y’all are out spoken about stuffs like this cause damn down here u better not try it cause it’s illegal so basically living under a shell is just so hard but watching and seeing videos like this kinda gives a high hope to the future and what it holds for us here, so yea thank you. And u just got a new subscriber 🔥🔥🌈🌈
In my country South Africa 🇿🇦
Bisexuals are very much of a confusion. Being bisexual is not a bad thing, however when u fall in love with either man/woman, just set the record straight and make your potential partner understand how u’ll live your life while you’re in a relationship with him/her. Be mature about it and don’t waste no ones time!
P, your statement is very generalizing. Also... regardless of sexuality, one should disclose what kind of relationship they want or how they'll behave upfront. I'm SAn too by the way 😉
@@nonzengluphoni9289 Exactly he sounds ignorant AF lol.... What he said, literally had no correlation with the topic
@@nonzengluphoni9289 that’s exactly what I’m all about, generalizing! As a strictly gay guy, bisexuality leaves me with a lot of questions and uncertainty, also I’m not well informed about it, hence I’m saying that, bisexual ppl need to make themselves clear to their potential partners who don’t understand bisexuality like me, and educate them about how they’re going to live their lives and behave while they’re involved with u.
biphobia ain't sexy.
Such an amazing perspective. Very well, spoken. Had I had those words 30 years ago, I would have saved a whole lot of time on my “bisexual” journey.
You look so fine to be in your fifties Andre! ❤️
I am 💯 percent is an openly Bi Man. And there are women out there that are attracted to you as is. It is important to walk in your truth frfr. The world does not shape you. You shape the World!
This was such an incredible and needed convo. David’s perspective resonated deeply. #bipride #bivisibility
Identifying as bisexual for some (not all), is a step towards accepting one's same sex attraction. Because of this some people have attacked anyone who identifies as bisexual. I say attacking someone who is not attacking you is more a commentary of one's own insecurity and on the low key a need to control and define someone else. I'm too busy defining, refining and re-finding myself to try and limit others. Love this conversation! This should be a mandatory watch for being HUMAN 101.
Wow!!! I'd love to interview this man!! I'm starting a series interviewing bisexual black men 🌈🌞
where can we watch it? And thank you for the representation 💖💜💙
Dude on the right’s advice is perfect.
Wow. Just wow. Those words of wisdom about authenticity towards the end were pure gold. THANK YOU GUYS SOOO MUCH ❤️
I knew this was gonna be great but it honestly exceeded my expectations.😮💨 I got a positive perspective shift on bisexuality & about owning my authentic self unapologetically...im beyond satisfied!! 😇
Not even into 4 minutes of watching this video and laughing so hard every time David says "church".
@aria mason to bad for your god, my God is laughing along with me. Blessings ✌
What a very beautiful and educational discussion. I really do feel the struggle for bi community, such tortured souls. I’m glad this dude can free himself from all that stress and just be honest, people that are for you will find you . I wish more people would do that.
@KvngDavid remains my all time fav I’m obsessed 😍 just look at how fluent he is
What an incredible conversation! Thank you for what you do in putting this together!
The church part though 😂😂😂
Great conversation and most can't handle his honesty and truth.
Okay how have I never been in this space as a black gay man , this is wonderful that you’ve created this space 👌🏾
Both gentlemen are very intelligent. I always believed there was no such thing as a bisexual man. I thought people claiming this just wanted a more comfortable life, without dealing with the fact they are gay. So, you guys did teach me different. Now, I am a total gay man but will respect someone who says they are bi.
Thank you for this episode, I’ve been struggling with my orientation and dating. I’m still working on being confident in myself… it’s refreshing to hear a healthy perspective 🙏🏾💜
Hi Ajà, When do you post your st video? It looks interesting
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I’ve always admired him ❤️ he’s always been very special and passionate 🙏🏾
Come through matching colors. Y'all were definitely in the spirit.😂
I love bisexual men, but it's hard to find them for some strange reason. Most bi men on the down low and even if they know you accept it they still want to pretend to be straight around women. It's frustrating because I don't like straight men I really just want a bi man to date. I live In Atlanta, I dont think I want these bi men here anyway.
What is it about bi men you like ?
I'm bi but I'm in Miami lol
@@Spider7xx The ones I have met meet certain requirements I look for in a man, neat clean cut, smell good, like the metrosexuals. I am a certain way and I expect my man to be a certain way as well, but many straight men don't be caring and like to look rough...a lot of women like that rough look but not me
I find myself to be more sexually compatible with them. I feel sexually free without feeling like a weirdo.
I have an ass fetish...can't really have an ass fetish with a straight man.
I like the dual nature. I love a masculine man that's in touch with his feminine side. I find it soooo sexy, and I am able to connect with them more.
I love gay porn ....I prefer it. I am like a bisexual man in a woman's body 🤷🏽♀️
@@NileshR12 one state away lol
What a refreshing conversation. You guys are awesome. Really appreciated what you said about saying that you identify as a gay man instead of saying that you identify as bisexual despite the fact that you really are bisexual, because you are not trying to downplay your attraction to men or make anyone feel more comfortable about that fact. I've never heard a bisexual person say something like that before.
I love this episode it pulled on my emotions a little bit but really allowed me to see the reality of being bisexual and why my bisexual friend do/feel how they do
Damn he brought the church into it to get himself to ultimately feel more comfortable even telling her just to lighten up the load. God said nope that’s not what I was telling you to do. The open and upfront a guy is the more I’m attracted to him. Don’t tell me stuff just ‘cause you think it’s what I want to hear NO what do I NEED to know about you to so we’re not building off a lie.
Thank you Obio! I connect with everything being said in this video and I'm so grateful you are pushing these conversations and content out there. It's well over due and incredibly needed! Excellent discussion 👏🏾
The dramatic church instrumentals took me out. 😂😂😂
Completely lol
I've always thought that bisexual is a safety zone for men and women who are unsure or uncomfortable with coming out.
Im bi female. I do like women more, but i am bj because i can be with a man also.
Thank you for this! I’m really loving these videos. It definitely does create a space!
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Jonathan u are a Ghanaian an preacher l presume ok 👍 can we keep in touch if u don’t mind
"Our authenticity has no place" in this world today. That part is real
If you're faithful to a person, it shouldn't matter what you are because it's not like your gonna cheat.
How is it possible that these 2 black men are sooo...beautiful and scrumptious 😋??
I wish I could have met them back in my younger days. I am involved with a Latino/white, handsome and a great man, now. We've been together for over 5 years. He's my everything. He worships me and I him. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
David has awakened! Love the esoteric perspective! Soon what you identify as will be less and less important. No more LGBT…or straight. It will just be “this is what I resonate with most”. Let’s break down the boxes we’ve put ourselves in!
so you on a spiritual journey?
@@bendemare5270 I guess you could say that…
Dayuuuuum that is David his fine ass.....I love his persona and demeanor. He's definitely someone I would date
Like the conversation and can never take away how anyone feels about their experience. My opinion is we put too much emphasis on being gay or bi. I'm fascinated how people can have these long drawn out perspectives and experiences that seem like it's overthinking all the time. I never took my sexuality that serious. I just looked at it as I'm just attracted to guys and girls sometimes on a physical level and that is it. Do I care about the world knowing what I prefer no. Do I want to be so involved with the gay community and do all these different things, no. Do I care if a man or woman don't accept me for who I am...no. People just be yourself and don't worry about the next. If you come across those who care about you and you can trust them then f**** with those people. Don't define your life by what other people want to see out of you and you feeling the need to be accepted or to impress. Just simply do what you do. Just live life in the sense of enjoying the world..work and have fun. Keep a short knit of close friends...not a group or try to be in a scene. If you find that one who accepts you and make you happy then go for it, but us gay or bi's got to stop overthinking our sexual preference because it can boil down to looking like we need to please those who tend to be uncomfortable with our type. F*** them but I get people's experience and how they feel..I'm just a different type of gay/bi breed. Nobody has ever made me over analyze myself and what I want.
Whhhaattt!!!...I first listened to the episode, while I was running off to get come lunch for work. when I got back, I wanted to watch it again, but with video and there he is.....King David himself. Very Very VEERRRYYY good episode Obio. I really enjoyed you both in this one.
I gotta say obio as a bi trans man myself I really love your channel and your content. The content you do about the gay community is really insightful for me as someone sort of on the outskirts of that and you have such a chill relaxed demeanor that it makes your content easy to watch.
This was awesome forreal yall. Now I feel like I understand the journey of the bisexual black man way more ❤❤
SSHHEEESSSHHH!!! He didn’t have to drop that 💎 like that!!! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I'm friends with David on Facebook. I love you both. Stay safe & know that you are loved.
I subscribed just from this video alone. This was a GREAT interview. Very thought-provoking and very in-depth. I appreciate this.
Why anyone nowadays is not free to be what they want to be and live without judgement I don't know. It is no one else's business. In this day and age you can be anything you like, don't worry about another's perception of you. Great conversation.
Great conversation. ANd you found THE one who absolutely trips ALL of my triggers !!!
Thanks for sharing your authentic point of view. Really helps me understand this point of view better.
I really enjoyed this video one thing though it is easy when you are beautiful and handsome and good looking at both you young men. If you are not as attractive that could be a little bit more difficult or you don't fit in with the normal looks of society whether that's your a little overweight or you suffer from some physical conditions is a little bit more difficult to navigate through such a way. I think I mentioned before that I have a genetic condition called NF1, where I have moles on my chest back and part of my jawline. Being comfortable with oneself is one thing but being with someone who comfortable with themselves so they can be comfortable with you is a totally different thing. I've dated women and I've dated men but staying you comfortable with one thing and then later on finding out that you can't it's really difficult.
Man the Eyecandy on this screen!!! 🤭
Child!!!
Get in line, Dionne
This was very good! I have experienced bisexual men getting with women & separating themselves for their entire gay past including friends, flings and lovers then treating those groups with resentment just by them showing up. Always confused at the same time I was like you know what I know so don't fool yourself. It's refreshing to hear the perspective from the other side.
At the end of the day...it's all about being your AUTHENTIC self. Once you find your REAL self the world 🌎 💯 is yours for the taking. At this point, NO ONE can sway or confuse you. Trust and believe...you see things in a whole different way. Stay blessed everyone!! 🙏🏿🙏🏿😎✌🏿✌🏿💋💋
Those church music riffs had me on the floor! 🤣🤣
The road of acceptance for all sides is a challenge on multiple levels. I am a 68 year old who spent a decade of my life thinking I was the only guy attracted to my own sex the word GAY meant happy and nothing else. We have come along way and yet still have far to go. Good luck 👍
the church music LMAOOO
I think I seen him cooking with Madison. The church break had me rollin. 😹
This is beautiful. I'm semi- openly bisexual
Too much fineness in this video whoaaaa!!! 🍫
I could look at Mr. Plaid shirt all day!