The Donkey Kong that Nintendo Forgot

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • There are bucketloads of Donkey Kong characters at this point. DK, Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong, FUNKY KONG. But, there's one Kong that Nintendo seem to have forgotten in recent years. Today we'll investigate where the character came from, and what happened to them!
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    Sources
    - web.archive.org/web/200612100... - history of dk jr
    - www.nintendo.com/super-nes-cl... - how super mario kart characters were chosen
    - www.suppermariobroth.com/post...
    - tcrf.net/Proto:Mario_Kart:_Do...
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  • @ThomasGameDocs
    @ThomasGameDocs  4 года назад +253

    Follow me on Twitter! - twitter.com/thomasgdocs

    • @andrewgarcia1664
      @andrewgarcia1664 4 года назад +3

      Thomas Game Docs ok

    • @TrustedTexan
      @TrustedTexan 4 года назад +5

      Thomas Game Docs if you don’t follow on twitter you will become the forgotten Kong!

    • @spacepawdity4973
      @spacepawdity4973 4 года назад +5

      W... what if I don’t have twitter?

    • @TrustedTexan
      @TrustedTexan 4 года назад +1

      It's Kitty time to install

    • @jesusramos2910
      @jesusramos2910 4 года назад +6

      Modern dk isn’t the old dk the old dk is cranky and the modern one is his grandson

  • @shuumatsunojoshua
    @shuumatsunojoshua 4 года назад +1662

    He has no style, he has no grace
    I didn't know who he was in the first place

    • @ghostly-toaster3766
      @ghostly-toaster3766 4 года назад +35

      joshy the scrub he can inflate just like a balloon

    • @epicsmg3740
      @epicsmg3740 4 года назад +41

      @@ghostly-toaster3766 this unknown kong just digs his tune

    • @epicsmg3740
      @epicsmg3740 4 года назад +9

      shouldn't have commented that but keeping it anyways

    • @ramsbottom4745
      @ramsbottom4745 4 года назад +32

      He has no style, he has no grace
      This Kong was a big mistake

    • @ABitofEpicness
      @ABitofEpicness 4 года назад +28

      @@ramsbottom4745 he has no style, he has no FACE
      This kong, is a big disgrace

  • @redeadbone9007
    @redeadbone9007 4 года назад +841

    _Calls Modern DK Junior's father_
    *DKC FANS SCREAM*

    • @Stratilex
      @Stratilex 4 года назад +84

      picklejuice ikr, I like Thomas’ channel but he missed out on some crucial research

    • @RobinLSL
      @RobinLSL 4 года назад +37

      @@Stratilex yep, that's really uncharacteristic of him.

    • @alexasbagel
      @alexasbagel 4 года назад +28

      Dk jr is modern dk right?

    • @GilWanderley
      @GilWanderley 4 года назад +98

      @@alexasbagel Cranky Kong says he is the original arcade DK, and the current one is his grandson. That makes Jr the current one's father.

    • @FancifulDancingStar
      @FancifulDancingStar 4 года назад +74

      In fairness, Nintendo is incredibly inconsistent about this. They've flip-flopped between modern DK being the original (this is usually done in games where he's alongside Mario), being the son of the original (well, I think only Rare has stated this, and only in DK64), or being the grandson of the original.

  • @TaxEvasionUS
    @TaxEvasionUS 4 года назад +1650

    The modern Donkey Kong is actually Donkey Kong III, son of Donkey Kong Jr.

    • @eyeccantseeyouu
      @eyeccantseeyouu 4 года назад +319

      Silent Death people say that donkey kong jr is our modern donkey kong and cranky was the og one against mario
      i can believe that honestly

    • @wobblesama6014
      @wobblesama6014 4 года назад +125

      It is, because the of donkey Kong country has cranky on the og donkey Kong stage

    • @Hokatoman
      @Hokatoman 4 года назад +218

      @@wobblesama6014 In Donkey Kong Country Cranky says: Who i was Young i have kidnapped beautiful Woman climpe up Buildings and throw barrels at plumbers.

    • @maymaymanufacturer1351
      @maymaymanufacturer1351 4 года назад +20

      So DK Jr Is Diddy Kong and Dixie kong’s grandpa, right ?

    • @re_thinkable8653
      @re_thinkable8653 4 года назад +48

      TARTAR BOI no this comment is wrong. Diddy is from another family of monkeys or gorillas or whatever. The donkey Kong jr from the arcade game and super Mario kart is the modern donkey Kong. The family tree is complicated.

  • @CaitlinKoi
    @CaitlinKoi 4 года назад +26

    I remember him being in Mario Tennis for the N64. I loved that game. I never seemed to be able to unlock Donkey Kong Jr. but I remember going into a tournament, and he was one of the opponents. I was like "that ain't diddy, that ain't donkey, who the hell is that"

  • @Nightcaat
    @Nightcaat 4 года назад +389

    “cream of the crop”
    _7 clone characters shown_

    • @SpoRkManiac
      @SpoRkManiac 4 года назад +14

      that's the joke

    • @RobbWes
      @RobbWes 4 года назад +23

      They should of been made into alternate skins like the 9 yoshi colors

    • @mosey3127
      @mosey3127 4 года назад +5

      crop of the cream

    • @lowercaseletters_
      @lowercaseletters_ 4 года назад +1

      Nightcat omg u are everywhere

    • @mrbisshie
      @mrbisshie 4 года назад +4

      We got Pink metal Peach, but adding Diddy Kong was too hard!

  • @johnathanbarnes8639
    @johnathanbarnes8639 3 года назад +19

    HE'S FINALLY BACK!!!
    ... in Mario Kart Tour...

    • @guillermogazanol1729
      @guillermogazanol1729 2 года назад

      But in 16 bits

    • @ChronoSquare
      @ChronoSquare 2 года назад

      both a blessing and a curse
      I'm surprised they've added somany reskins of characters and haven't added classic veterans of Mario Kart like WIGGLER or QUEEN BEE

  • @PlayerN101
    @PlayerN101 3 года назад +4

    0:37
    The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma
    *Donkey Kong Jr racing*

  • @happycamperds9917
    @happycamperds9917 4 года назад +251

    11:05 Kamek was a placeholder until they got permission from Rare to use their design for DK, actually.

  • @GmNdWtchr96
    @GmNdWtchr96 4 года назад +318

    A few missing details:
    DK Jr was supposed to be in DKC1, but Rare's redesign was so drastic that Nintendo made them turn this design into a new character, Diddy Kong.
    Also, DK Jr. was a Mystery Mushroom costume in Mario Maker 1.

    • @MrJWTH
      @MrJWTH 3 года назад +13

      And he stared in a math game for the NES.

    • @liquidalumina7141
      @liquidalumina7141 2 года назад +3

      @@MrJWTH didn't Donkey Kong Jr. Math came AFTER DK jr.'s debut on Donkey Kong Jr. (NES/Arcade game)

    • @PhantomOfficial07
      @PhantomOfficial07 Год назад +2

      @@liquidalumina7141 Yeah but he still starred in math

    • @djr.bklyn.ny.
      @djr.bklyn.ny. Год назад

      And MKT

    • @darrenmacqueen9884
      @darrenmacqueen9884 Год назад +1

      Didn't know this. Honestly, I'd have preferred they just say Diddy Kong is DK Jr. It's weird that we haven't seen DK Jr in any of the main Donkey Kong games, and now Nintendo are the ones responsible for Diddy becoming more widely known than their own creation. They should retcon it and say Diddy Kong was the one that starred in DK Jr, just like Jumpman is now called Mario. King Koopa is now Bowser, Princess Toadstool now Peach. They've changed names many times, DK Jr can now be Diddy Kong. And he wasn't really DK's son. That was never outright stated within the games anyway, so it's fine.

  • @martymcfly1312
    @martymcfly1312 4 года назад +8

    Diddy Kong was originally going to be DK Jr but Nintendo thought Rare's design was too different so they asked them to change it to look more like his classic design or keep the design as a new character with Rare choosing the latter.

  • @pamka6913
    @pamka6913 4 года назад +2

    Found this channel few days ago and already seen almost all videos. I learn a lot of cool stuff from then and they are very well researched. Already one of the best channels i discovered in 2019

  • @channel_87
    @channel_87 4 года назад +626

    Title: The Long Lost Kong
    Me: Kiddy Kong!
    Thomas: DK Junior
    Me: *sobs*

    • @SnapGorgon
      @SnapGorgon 4 года назад +84

      We don't speak of Kiddy Kong

    • @ThomasGameDocs
      @ThomasGameDocs  4 года назад +176

      kiddy kong haunts my dreams

    • @channel_87
      @channel_87 4 года назад +14

      Thomas Game Docs sorry but kiddy’s my fav

    • @vincenzomottola7778
      @vincenzomottola7778 4 года назад +30

      What about Fedora Kong

    • @channel_87
      @channel_87 4 года назад +24

      Vincenzo Mottola ah yes the star of the Bible, Fedora Kong

  • @ChristopherMoom
    @ChristopherMoom 4 года назад +330

    Clearly, Mario must've still been salty after being defeated by Donkey Kong Jr, so when he joined Mario Kart, Mario saw it as a chance to get rid of him

  • @Smokin420nAZ
    @Smokin420nAZ 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video man! Really enjoy your presentation and the content you have within them! Can't wait for the next!!

  • @joshhacker8503
    @joshhacker8503 4 года назад +20

    DK Jr: The Kong who probably regrets fathering his own usurper. Lmao

  • @barrybulletkin901
    @barrybulletkin901 4 года назад +158

    Never thought I’d hear sexy midriff and donkey Kong in the same sentence

    • @BirdieSenpai
      @BirdieSenpai 4 года назад +13

      Never have I needed to hear something so badly and not known it until I heard it.

    • @kanzakiloveless7031
      @kanzakiloveless7031 4 года назад +9

      *MAX NUT*

    • @Kurostyle21
      @Kurostyle21 4 года назад +2

      @@BirdieSenpai DBZA Vegeta is a wonderful thing to quote

    • @Typhoon1620
      @Typhoon1620 4 года назад +2

      What’s funny is that I saw this comment seconds before it came up

  • @Larry
    @Larry 4 года назад +635

    I thought Nintendo lore was Donkey Kong Jr IS the current Donkey Kong now grown up, and the original Donkey Kong is now Cranky Kong.

    • @ThomasGameDocs
      @ThomasGameDocs  4 года назад +276

      Rare flip flopped on it a bunch of times but I believe that Nintendo's current story is that the current DK is the _son_ of DK Jr., and that Cranky Kong/Original DK is the grandfather of current DK. It's all a bit of a confusing mess though, if you ask me haha

    • @petervandebeek5980
      @petervandebeek5980 3 года назад +43

      Yes, that is indeed correct. The DK Jr. from the 80's is DK from the 90's (and later) and the original DK is Crancy. Play DKC1 again and you'll read it everywhere in Cranky's lines.

    • @maxfigueroa3345
      @maxfigueroa3345 3 года назад +22

      Wrong dk jr is donkey kong’s dad and the donkey in the arcade game is cranky kong

    • @venus3986
      @venus3986 3 года назад +2

      @@ThomasGameDocs lol
      Edit that not the truth look what I said and look what everyone else is saying

    • @billblaski9523
      @billblaski9523 3 года назад +13

      @@petervandebeek5980 its been retconned. Even in the manual for Donkey Kong Country, it says Cranky is Donkey Kongs father. But somewhere along the line Rare retconned it so Cranky is now Donkey Kong's grandpa

  • @MattFlame
    @MattFlame 2 года назад

    I don't know why I haven't subscribed until now, but I definitely did after this one. Love your videos man!

  • @crumstopher
    @crumstopher 4 года назад +6

    Donkey Kong Junior: you took everything from me
    Nintendo: I don't even know who you are

  • @rezahydra
    @rezahydra 4 года назад +273

    Knew instantly this was about DK Jr.

    • @Landapanda08
      @Landapanda08 4 года назад +2

      Same

    • @nightmare6186
      @nightmare6186 4 года назад +1

      Yeah

    • @eddie0252
      @eddie0252 4 года назад +1

      Same

    • @Seab3551
      @Seab3551 4 года назад +4

      ReZaHydra or lanky

    • @rezahydra
      @rezahydra 4 года назад +5

      @RiceCakes Nobody forgot that Kong as
      HE HAS NO STYLE
      HE HAS NO GRACE
      HU HU HU HU HUH
      THIS KONG HAS A FUNNY FACE

  • @i.m.evilhomer5084
    @i.m.evilhomer5084 4 года назад +130

    Fun Fact: DK Jr's model for Mario Kart Double Dash was used as the beta models for the helper monkeys from Donkey Kong Jungle Beat.

    • @dannyorange9023
      @dannyorange9023 4 года назад +16

      This' more interesting than anything mentioned in this entire video

  • @VideoJamesNZ
    @VideoJamesNZ 4 года назад +12

    I sure hope DK Jr gets his time in the spotlight again 😦 makes me feel kinda sad.

  • @josearmando9933
    @josearmando9933 4 года назад

    your videos are always interesting for me, no joke! you make the best contents. keep it up!

  • @twilliamspro
    @twilliamspro 4 года назад +208

    I like the fan theory that DK Jr is todays DK as OG DK has died or become cranky
    Mario of today is OG Jump Man's Son

    • @mattpietropaoli835
      @mattpietropaoli835 4 года назад +59

      I'm pretty sure that first statement is canon, as in OG DK became Cranky Kong and DK Jr. is the DK we see in games today with Diddy and company.

    • @jesusramos2910
      @jesusramos2910 4 года назад +72

      Nintendo confirmed that modern dk is crankys grand son, it’s not a fan theory the video is just wrong when it says that modern dk is jrs father

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад +15

      @@jesusramos2910 And because of that, that means that modern DK is Donkey Kong Jr. II from Donkey Kong Jr. Math

    • @jesusramos2910
      @jesusramos2910 4 года назад +15

      @@samofford5919 darn, foiled again, curse you math

    • @onepiece190993
      @onepiece190993 4 года назад +28

      The OG DK is Cranky Kong, DKJR is his son and (New)DK is his grandson. And Baby DK from Super Sluggers and Yoshi's Island DS is the (New) DK when he was a baby. And since baby Mario is racing with his future self (Ala Partners in Time), it isn't strange for DKJR to appear in the future to see the races.

  • @WackMaDino
    @WackMaDino 4 года назад +1489

    why is the donkey kong family tree so needlessly complicated

    • @cryptidliam8452
      @cryptidliam8452 4 года назад +88

      WackMaDino pretty sure dk Jnr is donkey kong and the original donkey kong was is kranky Kong

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад +89

      @@cryptidliam8452 The original DK was Cranky, then DK Jr., then the modern DK, named Donkey Kong Jr. II

    • @les5247
      @les5247 4 года назад +58

      I spent an entire day at school constructing a family tree graphic and i'm not done yet.

    • @dippin4dots
      @dippin4dots 4 года назад +52

      WackMaDino they are stuck on a singular island, how can you not expect an Alabama slamma!

    • @oatjuice5921
      @oatjuice5921 4 года назад +22

      @@headcrab4 you know that you can post youtube links, right?

  • @jacknation1141
    @jacknation1141 4 года назад +54

    6:06
    Yes, Mario wears 2 pairs of overalls at once

    • @NickFamzi
      @NickFamzi 3 года назад +2

      At least Mario (SNES) is finally in Tour.

    • @DiagonalTanooki
      @DiagonalTanooki 2 года назад +2

      @@NickFamzi and so is dk jr!

    • @NickFamzi
      @NickFamzi 2 года назад +1

      @@DiagonalTanooki Oh holy you are right, I mean I commented that comment around ten months ago and I did forget to mention Donkey Kong Jr. (SNES) as well, but thanks for replying Diagonal Mario as at least DK Jr. (SNES) gets mentioned here!
      I'm still hoping for 3D model of DK Jr. to finally appear in Mario Kart Tour, future new Super Mario games, new Donkey Kong games, and more on soon in the future as well!

  • @Wolf-ge7iz
    @Wolf-ge7iz 2 года назад +5

    You no got me questioning every character’s background that I watch! Funny, interesting and a little sad. Apparently Goofy had a wife, but she passed away do to untold circumstances.
    Thank you!
    Love your videos by the way!

  • @Kictor
    @Kictor 4 года назад +2

    This was a great video, I loved the secret ending!

  • @mrhappy623
    @mrhappy623 4 года назад +285

    According to the Kong family tree, Donkey Kong Jr. is actually Donkey Kong’s father. The original Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong, who is Donkey Kong’s grandfather, thus showing that his father must’ve been Donkey Kong Jr.

    • @anishthefish2439
      @anishthefish2439 4 года назад +17

      donkey kong jr abandoned dk.

    • @AymenZero
      @AymenZero 3 года назад +7

      No please. Just no.

    • @poweroffriendship2.0
      @poweroffriendship2.0 2 года назад +18

      If that's so, then the modern Donkey Kong we all know and love would've been called Donkey Kong III.

    • @larniieplayz6285
      @larniieplayz6285 2 года назад +2

      @@AymenZero what’s wrong?

    • @larniieplayz6285
      @larniieplayz6285 2 года назад +1

      @@poweroffriendship2.0 not necessarily

  • @BulletBillSoilder
    @BulletBillSoilder 4 года назад +70

    Correction, corrections, dodododo: The DK we've had in MK64 onward (technically DKC 1 onward) is actually the DK from Donkey Kong Country and not the OG DK, that DK we have in this modern era is the son of DK Jr, and the grandson of the original DK, who is now: Cranky Kong. So really, DK Jr is rooting for his son after time traveling into the future.

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад +10

      YES! Thank you! A small fun fact for another who knows the truth, modern DK's full name is Donkey Kong Jr. II. This can be found in Donkey Kong Jr. Math.

    • @seandwalsh3
      @seandwalsh3 4 года назад +1

      Jacques Offah Junior (II) from math is pink and otherwise identical to Jr. in every other way. I’m pretty sure he’s not modern day Donkey Kong.

    • @deadlive3212
      @deadlive3212 4 года назад +3

      Eggman Robotnik modern Donkey Kongs name is actually Donkey Kong the third.

    • @bert7651
      @bert7651 3 года назад +1

      time travel... just admit that donkey kong still has a son that just isnt used in games anymore.

    • @BorgztheDutchCyborg
      @BorgztheDutchCyborg Год назад

      @@seandwalsh3 hey... I remember you!
      You're that Mario lore guru I argued with on Twitter!

  • @Ougerosity598
    @Ougerosity598 2 года назад +1

    I'm loving this ever-so-slightly less professional, more jovial Mr. Docs 😂

  • @Hockeybro42
    @Hockeybro42 Год назад +1

    Even when i watch a TGD video 5 times, I still learn more things!

  • @weinerlover6972
    @weinerlover6972 4 года назад +13

    CLARIFICATION: Dk Jr is actually DK's father. Cranky Kong is the Kong in the original arcade game, Jr is the one in Jr, and Modern DK (aka DK III) is the one featured in 64 onwards.

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад

      Quick correction, modern DK's full name is Donkey Kong Jr. II. This can be found in Donkey Kong Jr. Math.

    • @weinerlover6972
      @weinerlover6972 4 года назад

      @@samofford5919 Not canon

    • @blinkingberry9591
      @blinkingberry9591 4 года назад

      Then does that mean Cranky is DK's Grandpa after all?

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад

      @@blinkingberry9591 yes

  • @BirdieSenpai
    @BirdieSenpai 4 года назад +25

    As someone whose favorite part of Nintendo EVER is Donkey Kong Jr. I appreciate your making this video and giving spotlight to my favorite underrated and forgotten character ever so much!
    When I found out years ago that DK Jr. was going to be in Double Dash but got replaced, I was absolutely livid initially. I don't have anything against Diddy and I adore him immensely, but finding out that my favorite part of Nintendo's history almost made it into my favorite game of the decade was like a banana slamma to the face.
    Also, if I wasn't already subscribed, your coughing over the abominations that are MORE worthless derivatives of Mario and Peach at the beginning of the video definitely would have caused me to subscribe, lol.

    • @hobossuck2
      @hobossuck2 4 года назад +3

      DK Jr. being left out by nintendo pisses me off more than any other forgotten Mario character. While characters like waluigi are at least consistent in spin off appearances, characters like birdo and spike are included in the games sparingly but still being used over the years, Pauline and King K Rool finally coming back into relevancy after many years of rarely appearing and characters like Wart and Geno who while it would be cool to see them return were only used once or twice so they're kinda not as close to us as other Mario characters. DK Jr was the only one who was just left out by Nintendo in the rain right after he had gotten his chance like wtf they actually went out of their way to remove him from double dash. And don't give me that DK jr is modern DK so he can't be in the games with him bullshit cause baby characters like baby mario appear alongside their adult counterparts in spin off games all the time. I don't hate Diddy though but he just doesn't cut it for me. He seems too cool and hip whereas DK Jr appears to be a more playful and cute child gorilla

    • @CaptainCoolzCT-
      @CaptainCoolzCT- 4 года назад +1

      The guy says 'darling' too much, and I know that for a fact because where he's from here in England, people don’t say that so much... he’s sing a stereotype to boost his popularity...

  • @AymenZero
    @AymenZero 3 года назад +1

    Is it me or is it satisfying to look at the super Mario all starts in the tiny TV in miyamoto's desk?

  • @anupgulhane3821
    @anupgulhane3821 3 года назад +2

    13:14 there are 5 Donkey Kongs in the stands chearing up

  • @geoleo965
    @geoleo965 4 года назад +56

    Wouldn't DK Junior be the present Donkey Kong we know nowadays?
    *EDIT #1-* I could swear that it was already established with the SNES game that Cranky Kong would be the old school Donkey Kong.
    *EDIT #2-* It seems that Nintendo hasn't officially cleared up if the present DK is Cranky's son or grandson. Should have started with such important clarification in the video.

    • @mattpietropaoli835
      @mattpietropaoli835 4 года назад +11

      You are correct, it's right there in the opening for DKC

    • @geoleo965
      @geoleo965 4 года назад +6

      @@mattpietropaoli835 So... This video was a irrelevant to begin with, and BOY what a clickbait with its false title.

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад +23

      DK Jr. is Cranky's son. Cranky is the original DK. The modern DK, however, is Cranky's grandson, not his son, which means that modern DK is Donkey Kong Jr. II from Donkey Kong Jr. Math

    • @geoleo965
      @geoleo965 4 года назад

      @@samofford5919 Source, please?

    • @BirdieSenpai
      @BirdieSenpai 4 года назад +11

      The primary debate on the topic comes from "Is the modern Donkey Kong the son or the grandson of Cranky Kong?" Some games, like the Donkey Kong Country games and others refer to DK as Cranky's grandson. Notably, DK64 refers to him as Cranky's son. Some games, like Mario Superstar Baseball and Brawl refer to him as Cranky's descendant (or, more specifically, refer to Cranky as DK's ancestor). Nintendo really hasn't helped the debate any, as thev're been quite inconsistent on the topic, themselves. The Mario vs. Donkey Kong series acts as though modern DK has always been the DK of the 1981 classic, for example. It's a huge mess, and we've never really received any definitive, official answer that puts the debate to rest and clarifies all the inconsistencies and contradictions. Of course, since these are games primarily aimed at children to enjoy, we can't really expect the company to put much stock into the lore and consistency, since children generally don't care enough about such matters to dwell on, much less debate, them, they way we older fans seeking to make things make more sense do.

  • @TheMadCroctor
    @TheMadCroctor 4 года назад +16

    I think it's pretty simple, the Donkey Kong Country series didn't exist yet when Super Mario Kart was in development and before those games happened Donkey Kong characters never left the arcade and therefore Donkey Kong wasn't part of the main Mario cast yet.
    Adding Donkey Kong Jr. to the game was nothing more than a retro throwback in 1992 people probably got about the same feeling back in the day as people got when characters like the Ice Climbers or the Duck Hunt Duo were added to Smash Bros
    Maybe it's hard to imagine, but Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. were on the same level during Super Mario Kart's development, and DK Jr. was probably chosen because he was more relevant as his game was newer (and just like Miyamoto stated, it was his 10th anniversary)

    • @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli
      @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli 3 года назад

      Also, DK Jr. was always a playable character, while DK was never a playable character.

  • @jackiexkh
    @jackiexkh 3 года назад +1

    Diddy Kong didn't just replace DK Jr. in Mario Kart: Double Dash, but in Donkey Kong Country as well.
    Diddy was initially meant to just be Rare's redesign for Jr., but Nintendo didn't like how different he looked, and told them they had to either keep the original design, or just make the redesign a new character entirely, to which they did the latter.
    The modern-day Donkey Kong introduced in DKC is actually DK Jr.'s son, with the original Donkey Kong from the arcade game now being known as the elderly Cranky Kong.

  • @NimhLabs
    @NimhLabs 4 года назад +5

    Going through the comments I've had to realise that Donkey Kong has an extensive lore to its games on par with Dark Souls series.
    Damn Nintendo... just sneaking this stuff in. First with the Kirby games being super freaking dark... now with extensive Donkey Kong lore.

  • @sethy804
    @sethy804 4 года назад +35

    I'm sure I'm not the only person to point this out, but current DK is not the original DK, Cranky Kong is. DK is Jr's son!

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
    @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 4 года назад +6

    8:34
    Woah. I *love* that DK design. Oddly endearing. Really wish they used it more!

  • @arcanepool
    @arcanepool 4 года назад +3

    8:26 i thought it was some kind of design limitation, where Donkey Kong was too big to fit on a 32x32 space, but not this...

  • @theneonchimpchannel9095
    @theneonchimpchannel9095 4 года назад +2

    It appears to be a bit more complicated. The Donkey Kong we know now, from Donkey Kong Country onwards is actually Donkey Kong the 3rd, as he is the grandson of Cranky Kong, the original Donkey Kong. This means that Junior is actually cheering on his son. There are several theories as to what happened to him. One being that he died, leaving Cranky to raise the modern Donkey Kong. However, it could be that they thought it was too confusing to have Donkey Kong's dad be referred to as Junior. There was a mysterious character called Fedora Kong that was going to be in Country but was left out. Some believe that this is the grown up Junior. I've personally developed my own theory. Look at what he's wearing...a leotard. What if Junior was a gymnast? This would also explain as to why he was home schooled in Donkey Kong Junior Maths. Instead of following in the family business, he got a scholarship to some fancy college with a strong gymnastics program and is now a successful gymnastics coach, perhaps at his old college. This would explain his absence and why DK3 was raised by his grandparents as Junior was busy with his gymnastics career, maybe he even competed at the Olympics or whatever the Kong equivalent might be. This would also explain why his most recent appearances have been sports based. He does love his son, but he was away a lot and his skill set doesn't fit with the family's adventuring.

  • @HeliosimWorld
    @HeliosimWorld 4 года назад +20

    3:59 Ridley:Is this my people?

    • @spanham725
      @spanham725 3 года назад +1

      I saw this as that came on and was about to comment that as well

  • @skploom
    @skploom 4 года назад +111

    I thought you were gonna talk about chained kong, a prisoner of war

    • @imdone8243
      @imdone8243 4 года назад +2

      More info

    • @dancingmariobros7434
      @dancingmariobros7434 4 года назад +9

      @@imdone8243 I believe he is from Mario RPG

    • @awkwardsilence4427
      @awkwardsilence4427 4 года назад +9

      I'm done
      He’s a common enemy you can encounter/fight in the later portions of Super Mario RPG. Basically imagine the DKC DK model, but instead of a tie he has metal constraints.
      donkeykong.fandom.com/wiki/Chained_Kong

    • @NickFamzi
      @NickFamzi 3 года назад +2

      Hahahaha yes the one from Super Mario RPG xD I can imagine him being in Mario Kart Tour xD

    • @AymenZero
      @AymenZero 3 года назад

      I don't think that was considered a dk, he's probably related to gorella from forest maze or something...

  • @queijonoob1160
    @queijonoob1160 4 года назад +2

    1:56 jumpman*

  • @HippoEatTortoise
    @HippoEatTortoise 3 года назад +2

    0:53 a,b,c. Shows numbers.

  • @byte287
    @byte287 4 года назад +9

    Saw him on the NES library for the switch, and saw him on the original Mario Kart on the SNES library. I was wondering who he was, so thanks!

  • @fiQmeister
    @fiQmeister 4 года назад +9

    I was wondering about this for a while and this video has answered all my questions. Much love, keep up the good work.

  • @roaringthunder115
    @roaringthunder115 4 года назад +1

    He’s an enigma of the bunch,
    I don’t know him well.
    DK’s family tree,
    is confusing as hell.

  • @hc_8344
    @hc_8344 7 месяцев назад +1

    As a true donkey kong jr fan,i can confirm that donkey kong jr math is a game that no one knows abt.

  • @happycamperds9917
    @happycamperds9917 4 года назад +17

    Theories say that DK Jr. died in the banana wars before the events if DKC, and that he is the DK we all know’s father.

    • @happycamperds9917
      @happycamperds9917 4 года назад +1

      referral madness Exactly.

    • @seandwalsh3
      @seandwalsh3 4 года назад +2

      DekuShrub 99 I think you mean the Kremean War

    • @happycamperds9917
      @happycamperds9917 4 года назад +3

      Seán Walsh The theories say that they are one and the same.

  • @bahooneyonastick
    @bahooneyonastick 4 года назад +7

    Your narration is perfect. I’m sure you have a script but your delivery is very natural and candid. You create great work. I’m such a huge fan!

  • @koreyjeffers6963
    @koreyjeffers6963 4 года назад +1

    How do you not have more subs? Your content is original, fun, informative and more. I'm legit confused. So many hack frauds on youtube just regurgitate other peoples content and they have a million subs. I'm pissed for you bro. Keep up the good work

  • @literallywhy6162
    @literallywhy6162 4 года назад +4

    I’m sure there’s a million comments of this already but that’s not the OG DK in MK64, that’s his grandson, DK jr’s son. OG DK goes by Cranky Kong now

    • @FlourishPorridge
      @FlourishPorridge 4 года назад

      I thought he was dk jr - not just his son.

    • @chuckarin1365
      @chuckarin1365 4 года назад +1

      @@FlourishPorridge DK Jr. is indeed the Father of Modern DK.

  • @vuppet5684
    @vuppet5684 4 года назад +20

    But does this kong have style, or grace, or some sort of funny face?

  • @akiyouma8014
    @akiyouma8014 4 года назад +8

    0:50 missed opportunity for where did he come from, where did he go?
    Great video btw

  • @TreadTheDonutDuck
    @TreadTheDonutDuck 3 года назад +2

    I don’t know if anyone has said this yet, but Mario Kart Tour is briefly bringing back Donkey Kong Jr as a character!

  • @Garlic227
    @Garlic227 4 года назад +1

    Donkey Kong junior: I Guess Nintendo forgot me.
    Kiddy Kong: You stole a title from me.

  • @Mom-cf2je
    @Mom-cf2je 4 года назад +11

    DK Jr should be the fifth playable kong when the next DKC game comes out

  • @mrf4ncyp4nts
    @mrf4ncyp4nts 4 года назад +38

    Okay but what about Swanky Kong, hm? Did you forget about him?

    • @airplane6417
      @airplane6417 4 года назад +2

      Funky, Lanky, Wrinkly, Kiddy, Tiny, Chunky, and Candy?

    • @carlosemilio5180
      @carlosemilio5180 3 года назад +3

      @@airplane6417 the first and last onesstill get normal representation. I really wanna see what happened to chunky and kiddy

    • @melisscholten5047
      @melisscholten5047 2 года назад

      THERE ARE SO MUCH KONGS! I THINK THE NEXT ONE IS KING KONG THE SON OF DK! OR BIGFOOT AND YETI Tbh...

  • @yoshidude64595
    @yoshidude64595 4 года назад +2

    If I'm not mistaken, the donkey Kong from the arcades is actually Cranky Kong in modern games, and the character we know as Donkey Kong is Donkey Kong III

  • @animewallmyvideosareprivat4704
    @animewallmyvideosareprivat4704 3 года назад

    2:55 it also sent shivers down my spine as he said it

  • @quackersencheese5081
    @quackersencheese5081 4 года назад +16

    Correction: Many times, you say that the Donkey Kong in Mario Kart is DK Junior's father. In reality, this Donkey Kong appears to be the same from Donkey Kong Country, which is Donkey Kong the Third. As Cranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong, and thus DK Junior's father. DK Junior is the father of Donkey Kong the Third, it seems. And while Cranky Kong did wear a tie in Donkey Kong for the gameboy, he still looked different than the modern day Donkey Kong.

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад +1

      Quick correction, modern DK's full name is Donkey Kong Jr. II. This can be found in Donkey Kong Jr. Math.

    • @seandwalsh3
      @seandwalsh3 4 года назад +1

      Jacques Offah there is no proof that Jr. (II) from math is Donkey Kong the Third. Junior (II) looks nothing like DKIII and is actually identical in appearance to Jr., aside from his pink colouration.

  • @elhugo13
    @elhugo13 4 года назад +7

    Wait, wasn't the original DK now cranky kong, and DK jr is the father of the modern DK? so there are three totals Donkey kongs, Don't remember where i heard that though.

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад +1

      This is the truth! Do not listen to the lies! I shall share a fun fact with you, The modern DK's full name is 'Donkey Kong Jr. II' which can be found in Donkey Kong Jr. Math

    • @evilmrbeaver571
      @evilmrbeaver571 4 года назад

      @@samofford5919 Maybe Donkey Kong Junior II grew up to be Funky Kong. In Donkey Kong Country Funky Kong and Donkey Kong use the same character models

    • @anishthefish2439
      @anishthefish2439 4 года назад +1

      you might have heard it from the leaderboard's video

  • @liambaron7112
    @liambaron7112 Год назад

    Your video about Mario's 3rd brother led me to your video about Bowser's brother, which led me to this video. Feels strange to hear your old intro haha.

  • @ffburger101
    @ffburger101 4 года назад

    This videos ending made me very happy thank you very much

  • @vincenzomottola7778
    @vincenzomottola7778 4 года назад +11

    I originally thought it was going to be Fedora Kong, the scrapped Donkey Kong Land character. Fedora Kong is an enigma, his purpose is unknown.

    • @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171
      @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 4 года назад

      Is Fedora Kong the Kong that wears a tuxedo in the cartoon?

    • @vincenzomottola7778
      @vincenzomottola7778 4 года назад

      @@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 most likely not

    • @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171
      @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 4 года назад

      @@vincenzomottola7778 Seriously, who is he?

    • @vincenzomottola7778
      @vincenzomottola7778 4 года назад

      @@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 we don't have a definitive answer, only the DKL Character Designers would know who Fedora Kong really was.

    • @anishthefish2439
      @anishthefish2439 4 года назад +2

      there is a theory that donkey kong jr is fedora kong. people say that donkey kong jr died in the banana wars and this theory states that donkey kong jr went into hiding and didn't actually die and now wears a fedora. this is because a fedora symbolizes father hood which would explain donkey kong jr being the donkey kong nows father.

  • @onepiece190993
    @onepiece190993 4 года назад +3

    The OG DK is Cranky Kong, DKJR is his son and (New)DK is his grandson. And Baby DK from Super Sluggers and Yoshi's Island DS is the (New) DK when he was a baby. And since baby Mario is racing with his future self (Ala Partners in Time), it isn't strange for DKJR to appear in the future to see the races

  • @JackAttackgamingXD
    @JackAttackgamingXD 2 года назад +3

    A little early for Donkey Kong December but good vid

  • @AffyMoon
    @AffyMoon 4 года назад +2

    I played DK jr when I was very small and I loved the game back then

  • @pearcyjackson280
    @pearcyjackson280 4 года назад +4

    I knew about DK Jr because theres a local arcade that has it on one of those 10 in 1 machines. Also Billy Mitchell and his "legit" swapping of the Donkey Kong and Donkey King Jr arcade boards

  • @SurandeDadstorm
    @SurandeDadstorm 4 года назад +14

    If it hadn't been for Donkey Kong Jr.
    I'd been married a long time ago

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад +3

      Where did he come from, where did he go?
      Where did he come from, Donkey Kong Jr.?

    • @coolj4334
      @coolj4334 2 года назад

      Where did you come from, where did you go? Where did you come from, Donkey Kong Jr.?

  • @Ksrwilhelm
    @Ksrwilhelm 4 года назад

    Interesting video! I always imagined that the Donkey Kong seen in the Rare-games was DK Junior, with Cranky being the Donkey Kong from the original game.

    • @chuckarin1365
      @chuckarin1365 4 года назад +1

      Officially, Original DK (Cranky) is the Father of DK Jr. and the Grandfather of Rare's Modern DK.

    • @Ksrwilhelm
      @Ksrwilhelm 4 года назад

      Damn. DK lore too deep.

  • @joelou
    @joelou 2 года назад

    This channel is quickly becoming one of my favs. Do you have a Patreon?

  • @Ammvnition
    @Ammvnition 4 года назад +10

    6:27 the answer is Samus ;)

    • @VGMStudios33
      @VGMStudios33 4 года назад +3

      Bullet Shooty i know right! Poor samus doesn't get much love.

    • @Ammvnition
      @Ammvnition 4 года назад +2

      @@VGMStudios33 She truly is a forgotten character from the back side hahaha

    • @guillermogazanol1729
      @guillermogazanol1729 2 года назад +1

      @@Ammvnition but is back in
      Metroid dread

  • @dario8539
    @dario8539 4 года назад +7

    At least DK jr was remembered in smash, also Thomas Time!

  • @thewapikmin280
    @thewapikmin280 4 года назад

    I knew it's be about DKJR. But there's also Kiddy, Chunky and Lanky Kong then Ninja, Dread and Karate Kong from the spin-offs like 1 or 2 Kongs from SMRPG, Candy Kong and Swanky Kong have slowly disappeared and I don't think we've seen Wrinkly or Tiny for awhile either.

  • @scottandrewhutchins
    @scottandrewhutchins 3 года назад

    It must be your age. Donkey Kong Junior was huge. He had a TV series where he rode around with a Fonz knockoff in a motorcycle sidecar, a breakfast cereal, all sorts of memorabilia.

  • @alexvalois7778
    @alexvalois7778 4 года назад +6

    6:06 No way, Mario wears overalls? That's crazy lmao

    • @Malyt538
      @Malyt538 4 года назад +2

      😂😂😂

  • @SJC82
    @SJC82 4 года назад +31

    DK Jr. never left. He grew up and became the current Donkey Kong. So in a way, he's been in every Mario Kart.

    • @yomama5419
      @yomama5419 4 года назад +13

      Huh? The current DK is DK Jr.'s son

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад +9

      Modern DK is old DK (Cranky)'s grandson, making DK Jr. his dad. Modern DK is Donkey Kong Jr. II from Donkey Kong Jr. Math

    • @SJC82
      @SJC82 4 года назад

      @@yomama5419 no, the current DK IS DK Jr. DK from the original Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong I think

    • @yomama5419
      @yomama5419 4 года назад +4

      @@SJC82 Definitely no because Donkey Kong from Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong who's his grandfather

    • @onepiece190993
      @onepiece190993 4 года назад +7

      The OG DK is Cranky Kong, DKJR is his son and (New)DK is his grandson. And Baby DK from Super Sluggers and Yoshi's Island DS is the (New) DK when he was a baby. And since baby Mario is racing with his future self (Ala Partners in Time), it isn't strange for DKJR to appear in the future to see the races

  • @rectar_
    @rectar_ 3 года назад +5

    0:42 When the imposter is sus

  • @Lucstar07
    @Lucstar07 3 года назад +2

    Okay I am writing this before the video starts, here are my guesses of who it is:
    - Lanky Kong
    - Chunky Kong
    - Donkey Kong Jr.
    Written after the video: okay I guessed it. And as of right now, DK Jr. is a playable character in MarioKart Tour for a limited time.

  • @sir_ian3340
    @sir_ian3340 4 года назад +21

    Thomas time!

    • @vittoman4392
      @vittoman4392 3 года назад

      * Tarataratatatatataaan! * *Oh yeah,Thomas Time!*

  • @treeman73272
    @treeman73272 4 года назад +8

    Actually DK JR is current DK's father

  • @jacobturner3059
    @jacobturner3059 7 месяцев назад

    This is unconfirmed, but some people suggest that the unused Kong from Donkey Kong Land (aka Fedora Kong) is actually a grown up version of DK Jr.

  • @starrae7301
    @starrae7301 3 года назад +2

    That little 8 bit donkey Kong junior is in Mario kart tour on mobile!

  • @AndrevusWhitetail
    @AndrevusWhitetail 4 года назад +5

    Here's the thing though. The Original DK from the arcade game is canonically proven to be Cranky Kong in the DKC Series. The DK we play as in DKC and Mario Kart and other Mario spinoffs is Cranky's Grandson.
    Donkey Kong Jr. is actually DKC Donkey Kong's father, not him.

    • @evilmrbeaver571
      @evilmrbeaver571 4 года назад

      They are both the original Donkey Kong because video games

  • @bigtimenintendogamer8854
    @bigtimenintendogamer8854 4 года назад +9

    Dk junior is Donkey Kong’s (country) dad

  • @V3n0m._.29
    @V3n0m._.29 2 года назад +1

    I wonder if DK Junior pulled a Turbo like in Wreck it Ralph, and when his arcade machine was getting unplugged he jumped in Mario Kart . And then when he wanted some more action, he jumped into Mario Kart Double Dash, that’s when he realized he wasn’t in the roster so he got a foam cutout of himself, put it in the crowd. Then he reprogrammed himself to look like diddy kong, and ripped apart the og diddy kongs game files and made him a glitch.

  • @JackAttackgamingXD
    @JackAttackgamingXD 2 года назад +3

    0:15 That's me

  • @JaretOnYoutube
    @JaretOnYoutube 4 года назад +34

    Prediction: it’s Donkey Kong Junior; from the game Donkey Kong Junior.

    • @ThomasGameDocs
      @ThomasGameDocs  4 года назад +11

      Ding ding ding! Correct!

    • @vincentjonesvr
      @vincentjonesvr 4 года назад

      @Chrisanity Ok He's literally DK. Original DK is Cranky Kong, and the main DK we know is DKJR.

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад +4

      ​@@vincentjonesvr The modern DK is Cranky's grandson, not his son, which means that modern DK is Donkey Kong Jr. II from Donkey Kong Jr. Math

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs 4 года назад

      @@samofford5919 I see somebody else is studied on the extensive Donkey Kong lore that exists.

    • @burnv06
      @burnv06 4 года назад

      I sense somebody watched the video first to look smart XD

  • @StrangeDad
    @StrangeDad 4 года назад +3

    Everyone commenting that Jr. is modern day DK: that’s incorrect! It goes like this:
    1. Cranky Kong - original DK, father of DK Jr.
    2. DK Jr. - son of Cranky and Wrinkly, father of modern day DK, hasn’t been present in recent years.
    3. Donkey Kong III (DK of today): grandson of Cranky and Wrinkly, son of Jr.
    Hope this makes it clear for you all. :)

    • @samofford5919
      @samofford5919 4 года назад +1

      Thank you, brother, for spreading the truth. I shall, however, correct you: modern DK's full name is Donkey Kong Jr. II. This can be found in Donkey Kong Jr. Math.

    • @StrangeDad
      @StrangeDad 4 года назад

      Jacques Offah Thank you. I actually got the name ‘Donkey Kong III’ from the fandom wiki, haven’t used it myself prior. :)

  • @jpreaux76
    @jpreaux76 2 года назад +1

    I knew DK Jr. from his game(A sequel to DK) and
    I knew he got replaced by Diddy Kong.
    He is also in Mario Kart Tour(Mario Kart
    for Mobile from 2019) and his in his NES Mario Kart style.
    Mario in DK and DK Jr. used to be called Jump Man.
    Super Mario Bros. Was a sequel to Mario Bros.

  • @dancingmariobros7434
    @dancingmariobros7434 4 года назад

    The weird thing is though is that the crowd texture in double dash is pasted around the whole stadium, which means that there is probably like 100 donkey Kong Jrs in the crowd.

  • @irumamiu
    @irumamiu 4 года назад +3

    Love your videos!!

  • @romajimamulo
    @romajimamulo 4 года назад +6

    I know you say "father", but it's probably "son" since the primary depiction of DK now, the one from adventure, is the grandson of arcade game DK.

  • @Power5978
    @Power5978 9 месяцев назад

    DK Jr is the modern Donkey Kong when he was little