Who is KING peach?

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2021
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    SOURCES/CREDITS
    - web.archive.org/web/201909110...
    - www.mariowiki.com/Super_Mario...
    - twinbee.fandom.com/wiki/Hissh...
    - manga.fandom.com/wiki/Hissh%C...
    - randomhoohaas.flyingomelette.c...
    - archive.org/details/NintendoC...
    - nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/King...
    - www.mariowiki.com/Gramma_Toad...
    - www.mariowiki.com/Grandma
    MUSIC
    - "Kitchen Bossa" from Kenkou Ouen Recipe 1000 DS Kondate Zenshuu Original Soundtrack
    - "Logic and Trick" from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Original Soundtrack, remixed by Zinle
    - "Inside the Castle Walls" from Super Mario 64 Original Soundtrack
    - "Inside the Castle Walls" short piano version by me
    - Other music via Epidemic Sound
    To expand on when I said “it might even have been the same artist who illustrated the Japanese guide book”:
    The art looks similar, even practically identical between the Japanese guide book and those little illustrations at the start of How To Win at Mario, so I assumed it must have been the same artist. However, checking the credits for the two books, the American guide credits "Daisuke Shigoto" as the illustrator, while the Japanese one credits “Sho Kobayashi and others”. So maybe Daisuke Shigoto was one of the “others”, or maybe he was just using the Japanese guide as a reference when he illustrated the American guide book. OR Nintendo had some kind of internal style guidelines which were sent to both illustrators. But this seems unlikely given how different the art from these books looks when compared to the official Mario art from this era.
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  • @ThomasGameDocs
    @ThomasGameDocs  2 года назад +651

    the idiot king of the mushroom kingdom decrees you must follow my twitter
    twitter.com/thomasgdocs

  • @Rammy_Latin
    @Rammy_Latin 2 года назад +2685

    "The King is stupid and is always getting kidnapped..."
    Aah! So it seems that Princess Peach has inherited some traits from her father then...

    • @miguel83883
      @miguel83883 2 года назад +43

      Yep

    • @heavenly4321-
      @heavenly4321- 2 года назад +124

      Hahaha 😂 like daughter and father

    • @GallantArc302
      @GallantArc302 2 года назад +19

      Teehee Valley flashbacks

    • @aikikaname6508
      @aikikaname6508 2 года назад +42

      @@miguel83883 I’m guessing because he’s a doddery old man and not a hot chick who’s the sole heir there’s less of a incentive

    • @schlatle..9467
      @schlatle..9467 2 года назад +22

      By who bowsers mom?

  • @SpeedySteedyYT
    @SpeedySteedyYT 2 года назад +1301

    Thomas: Peach isn’t a queen
    Peach Simps: What did you say?

    • @heroessquad2019
      @heroessquad2019 2 года назад +21

      🤣

    • @justarandomguy5088
      @justarandomguy5088 2 года назад +45

      It would be hard to simp for some game character from your childhood

    • @trevorbeatz5741
      @trevorbeatz5741 2 года назад +7

      Lol

    • @LightingMouse
      @LightingMouse 2 года назад +58

      @@justarandomguy5088 unless you had a crush on peach has a kid and I bet some of us did

    • @justarandomguy5088
      @justarandomguy5088 2 года назад +12

      @@LightingMouse I’ve been playing Mario since I was 3 or 4 DS was the one I had very fond memories of excluding from my home console which was the Wii, I only and still care about the games and characters but not to that extent

  • @-p5792
    @-p5792 2 года назад +880

    "She's a princess, not a queen"
    I feel so dumb, never noticed she has no parents lmao

    • @snake-number1
      @snake-number1 2 года назад +1

      me too

    • @dmm7736
      @dmm7736 2 года назад +94

      I figured she was just labeled as a princess because she has no husband and it was one of those kingdoms that are like “she’s in charge for now, but when she marries, her husband will take reign.” That made me believe it was Bowser’s main motive to steal and marry Princess Peach (although he does seem somewhat infatuated with her)

    • @ksnfilms
      @ksnfilms 2 года назад +77

      @@dmm7736 that might be the in-game reason but in reality little kids like princesses more than queens and Princess Peach sounds better than Queen Peach.

    • @dmm7736
      @dmm7736 2 года назад +8

      @@ksnfilms ooooo fair point

    • @memescoffee3173
      @memescoffee3173 2 года назад +1

      @@ksnfilms could be like Gungans where they favor younger children to rule

  • @Kiki-vg8ot
    @Kiki-vg8ot 2 года назад +537

    I’d love it if they’d make a game only for peach where she finds her parents and most likely saves them

    • @MysticMorigan1998
      @MysticMorigan1998 2 года назад +70

      A sequel to super princess peach!

    • @disneyvillainsfan1666
      @disneyvillainsfan1666 2 года назад +27

      Yes please! Peach needs another stand-alone game! Let alone franchise!

    • @rachelsenf4826
      @rachelsenf4826 2 года назад +16

      The closest we might get would be Super Princess Peach

    • @bootzcluez4473
      @bootzcluez4473 2 года назад +1

      I'd love that idea!!

    • @luigi57968
      @luigi57968 2 года назад +10

      @@MysticMorigan1998 The best thing would be a SUPER PRINCESS PEACH 2 on A Switch 2/Pro . It would be a Single Or Co Op played game with Player 2 Taking Control of Princess Daisy and the story is having to save Mario & Luigi from Bowser. Both Princesses use Umbrellas to attack but can use them in different ways depending on the power up they have (Fire Flower, Cat Bell, etc...) Then at the end of the game, The Plot Twist is that Bowser isn't the main Villain and that he was being mind controlled by the Alien From Super Mario Land (I forgot the Alien's name but he was the one that Kidnapped Daisy and was the main Villain in that game).

  • @DE23
    @DE23 2 года назад +1692

    I've never thought about this that much.

    • @CutieFakeKirby
      @CutieFakeKirby 2 года назад +14

      Well I did

    • @theunreal_TOEBEANS
      @theunreal_TOEBEANS 2 года назад +28

      I doubt it's the point! The little story was meant to be innocent and very simple. You're not supposed to think about whether Peach has parents because it's like, centered around children, and children don't think about their own parents much

    • @PC6OP
      @PC6OP 2 года назад +3

      Same I haven’t really thought about it a lot

    • @FlimmerBob
      @FlimmerBob 2 года назад +3

      That's what we are here for

    • @The1andonlysharpshooter
      @The1andonlysharpshooter 2 года назад +7

      I always thought of this as a kid because mario and wario both have brothers so I was curious with if Peach had a family. That and Matpat’s game theory on who Rosalina’s parents are got me asking big questions XD

  • @TheGamersState
    @TheGamersState 2 года назад +649

    "Bummer"
    Ah-ha! Now her Side-B in Smash makes perfect sense!

    • @disneyvillainsfan1666
      @disneyvillainsfan1666 2 года назад +13

      LOL

    • @GeeMannn
      @GeeMannn 2 года назад +17

      That was actually a good one lol

    • @nox_luna
      @nox_luna 2 года назад +38

      💕 *_HA-CHA!_* 💖

    • @King_Luigi
      @King_Luigi 2 года назад +26

      "Bummer"? I hardly know 'er!
      ... _(ba-dum tsssh)_

    • @alx3_le
      @alx3_le 2 года назад +1

      oh wow

  • @jorjebear9874
    @jorjebear9874 2 года назад +666

    It’s always been my head canon that Peaches parents died and she never got over her grief, so she never took the offical title of queen because it would be disrespectful to her mother.

    • @SuperMonaLisaBros
      @SuperMonaLisaBros 2 года назад +13

      Maybe she sees Mario as a father figure.

    • @muffin_the_metalhead3488
      @muffin_the_metalhead3488 2 года назад +102

      my headcanon is that there was a war between the Mushroom Kingdom and wherever Bowser lives, which resulted in both sets of parents being assassinated. so that’s why Peach is being taken care of by Toadsworth and Bowser is being taken care of by Kamek. also that’s why there’s bad blood and they don’t really
      like each other.

    • @oh.hey.2045
      @oh.hey.2045 2 года назад +60

      @@SuperMonaLisaBros um. what.

    • @somegenericguy2909
      @somegenericguy2909 2 года назад +16

      @@muffin_the_metalhead3488 dude Bowser lives in his Koopa Kingdom

    • @rachelsenf4826
      @rachelsenf4826 2 года назад +4

      That's deep

  • @CarthusDojo
    @CarthusDojo 2 года назад +627

    When it comes to peach saying “bummer” (6:30) and inheriting that from her mother that’s actually a common Japanese trope.
    Take for example Naruto who famously says “dattebayo” - something he inherited from his mother. While it’s often translated to “believe it” or “yah know?” It actually has NO meaning. It’s basically just a unique style of speech Naruto (and subsequently his mother) use for emphasis. While I can’t be 100% sure, I’d assume this translation of “bummer” is similarly just an attempt to translate something that can’t be translated from Nintendo perhaps. Hope this was helpful. Great video!

    • @NobaraGamezzz
      @NobaraGamezzz 2 года назад +2

      Surprised to see you here

    • @rubyy.7374
      @rubyy.7374 2 года назад +31

      I mean it makes sense, because those kinds of Japanese nuances simply don’t have an English equivalent as the emphasis/tone is assumed.
      Really hard to wrap my mind around as a learner.

    • @DarkYamatoman
      @DarkYamatoman 2 года назад +11

      These comics are american though, so there was no translation, and I seriously doubt they were getting any info from Nintendo of Japan while working on it

    • @mrmythman5001
      @mrmythman5001 2 года назад

      100IQ

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo 2 года назад +11

      @@DarkYamatoman As I said, this is simply a possibility. I know for other media franchises Japanese publishers/rights holders will send what is to be used in products not released in Japan to the West to be translated.

  • @BellHillMayor
    @BellHillMayor 2 года назад +1017

    For so many years I've always wanted to know what her parents looked like.

  • @spudd86
    @spudd86 2 года назад +293

    Peach could be a Princess Regent! There have been multiple countries ruled by someone with a "Prince" rank title.

    • @carolinian2009
      @carolinian2009 2 года назад +55

      True, the Mushroom "Kingdom" could in fact be a Principality. Or she could be Regent for her missing or deceased parents.

    • @lewatoaofair2522
      @lewatoaofair2522 2 года назад +18

      Those are called “Principalities”.

    • @AmericanCatlover2.0
      @AmericanCatlover2.0 2 года назад +13

      @@carolinian2009 It could be, but then why is it the mushroom KINGDOM, not the mushroom principality?

    • @juiceecads3894
      @juiceecads3894 2 года назад +42

      "kingdom" has a nicer ring to it. additionally, in super mario odyssey every new place is referred to as a kingdom despite none of them other than the mushroom kingdom having a monarch for a ruler. it's likely less reflective of the actual functions of power and more of an in-universe rule

    • @Rogeryoo
      @Rogeryoo 2 года назад +27

      @@juiceecads3894 so basically, their names for "countries" would be "kingdoms", regardless of monarchy. The mushroom and bowser's kingdoms are the exception, which have an actual monarchy, versus the rest, like metro, who have mayors or some other kind of ruling, democratic or not.

  • @Pelcurus
    @Pelcurus 2 года назад +140

    I had a series of Super Mario "Choose Your Own Adventure" style books. There's a king mentioned in one of those.

    • @ShadowWarriorLuke
      @ShadowWarriorLuke 2 года назад +10

      I had some of those myself. If I remember right they had some drawings and based the king off the one from the comics whenever he was depicted. He also got turned into a rabbit in one of them too, keeping with the whole animal transformation thing from Mario 3.

    • @ThatDudeMossy
      @ThatDudeMossy 2 года назад +4

      Its called Nintendo Adventure Books?

  • @GuineaPigDan
    @GuineaPigDan 2 года назад +67

    These tiny scraps of info on Peach’s parents are practically a treasure trove in comparison to what we know about Bowser Jr’s biological mother.

    • @muffin_the_metalhead3488
      @muffin_the_metalhead3488 2 года назад +12

      exactly! it’s the reason i hate Bowser Junior! the koopalings were adopted but Bowser Junior is obviously Bowser’s biological son, which means Bowser banged someone. EW. Peach was implied heavily to be his mother but then she was said not to be and they just kind of dropped it? even though Peach didn’t exactly deny it? it’s a mess

    • @goatmilk1
      @goatmilk1 2 года назад +5

      @@muffin_the_metalhead3488 Actually, Bowser didn't have to... y'know, for Bowser Jr to exist.

    • @mr.gameandtime8432
      @mr.gameandtime8432 2 года назад +7

      The Koopa Tribe has Black magic and Bowser isn't the best person... So.. Bowser Jr could be a illegitimate child that Bowser had outside marriage and took in for his Heir. No one can tell Bowser no in his choice of Heir because He's the boss.

    • @sonofahorde5368
      @sonofahorde5368 Год назад

      I suppose his mother just "not important for the story" and was just unnamed reptile woman who died when she layed his egg or shortly after that.

    • @PhantomOfficial07
      @PhantomOfficial07 Год назад +4

      @@muffin_the_metalhead3488 A Stork probably just dropped Junior off like in Yoshi's Island

  • @samueld8413
    @samueld8413 2 года назад +383

    He’s becoming British Game Theory, but instead of making stuff up he digs deep for the official confirmation.
    So Game Detective

    • @adamp.3739
      @adamp.3739 2 года назад +30

      I guess he was Sherlock Holmes all along!? But serious talk, it's good to see someone working off of actual proof instead of blathering nonsense out his own arse.

    • @samueld8413
      @samueld8413 2 года назад +28

      @@adamp.3739 Next up from Thomas Game Docs: a two-second video called “Is Ness actually Sans” where he says “He isn’t” and the video ends

    • @songokai2992
      @songokai2992 2 года назад +17

      Game theory but actually good

    • @renatoalvisto8791
      @renatoalvisto8791 2 года назад +14

      Why do people keep saying that Game Theory makes stuff up?

    • @samueld8413
      @samueld8413 2 года назад +18

      @@renatoalvisto8791 because he does in all of his lore videos

  • @nugboy420
    @nugboy420 2 года назад +48

    5:08 Peach’s dad is the Pringles Man?!?!

  • @LittlePixieBot
    @LittlePixieBot 2 года назад +18

    In the 90s there were Mario choose-your-own-adventure books that featured Peach's father, the king. I read one of them where he got turned into a rabbit by Morton Koopa Jr. The king's design in them was pretty much identical to the ones on the American comics.

  • @ShizuruNakatsu
    @ShizuruNakatsu 2 года назад +3

    4:38 No wonder my mother always called the Koopa Troopas "ducks".

  • @hobbesfield1082
    @hobbesfield1082 2 года назад +112

    almost wanted to say "prince/princess can be the height of the royal court in a principality" but then i remembered.. mushroom kingdom, not mushroom principality is it

    • @carolinian2009
      @carolinian2009 2 года назад +14

      Maybe she's a Regent?

    • @tobimisa
      @tobimisa 2 года назад +21

      "kingdom" is used to describe all of the locations in odyssey despite the majority not having a monarchy at all, so in universe it's likely that "kingdom" is just used in place of "country"

    • @kamikaze2812
      @kamikaze2812 Год назад

      @@tobimisa I never realised that, maybe they do have a monarchy but they aren’t seen

  • @disneyvillainsfan1666
    @disneyvillainsfan1666 2 года назад +235

    I always found it peculiar how for The Princess of The "Mushroom" Kingdom, Peach's appearance does not resemble a mushroom. It left me wondering if The King and Queen are her biological parents.

    • @Obscenerio
      @Obscenerio 2 года назад +66

      As per Yoshi's Island, Peach is one of the Star Children who were dropped off by the Stork. Mario, Luigi, Wario, DK, Bowser, and Yoshi are the other star children who the storks delivered, so I'm not sure any of them have biological parents.

    • @nimcie8377
      @nimcie8377 2 года назад +50

      My headcanon is that she is a Toad, but a special type. I think it either works similar to that of a Gerudo where every 100 years a new Male Gerudo is born and becomes king, or like a Queen Bee. Because canonically there’s only two females in Mushroom Kingdom, Peach and Toadette.
      What I’m getting at is that NSMBU Deluxe makes this theory seem very possible because in it, Toadette for whatever reason turns into Peachette with a very similar design to Peach when she wears a crown. No reason to do that but they did it. Peach is a ‘human’ ruling an entire population of mushrooms, and the fact that Toadette can turn into a Peach identical is sketchy.
      With the Queen Bee theory, the way a hive works is there’s only one Queen Bee and when it dies, the bees pick a new specific type of bee and that one later transforms into the Queen Bee. Same could be with Toadette, she’s the special type of Toad, a female Toad and will transform into the next Peach when this one dies. And Toadsworth was referred to twice officially by Nintendo as the father of Peach, in Sunshine and Partners in Time, so make that as you will.

    • @cbfranco3307
      @cbfranco3307 2 года назад +20

      @@nimcie8377 the bee theory? That awful theory from matpat? Has matpat not already proven with his stupid "Mario is mental" theory that he knows nothing about Mario?

    • @TheRealSuperKirby
      @TheRealSuperKirby 2 года назад +19

      @@cbfranco3307 just because mat pat makes a lot of terrible theories doesn't mean ALL of them are false. And trust me I am a HUGE mat pat hater but I'm not gonna automatically say every theory he makes is wrong.

    • @carolinian2009
      @carolinian2009 2 года назад +7

      @@nimcie8377 I'd just thought she always had a Super Mushroom for breakfast each morning. It's good to be the Princess!

  • @reper2976
    @reper2976 2 года назад +4

    4:56 A dark green toad like king? Maybe he created 1-up mushrooms or something?

  • @vanbautista2709
    @vanbautista2709 2 года назад +2

    Even Peach's co-star Zelda have mysterious parents, but nowadays the queen of hyrule is now the most mysterious in there series.

  • @imaksta
    @imaksta 2 года назад +62

    I feel like the Mushroom Kingdom is so big and wealthy that Peach gets her own big ass castles and plots of land. The true elites are just behind the curtains, puppeteering the power and hierarchy of the Marioverse

  • @Pa_amb_tomaquet
    @Pa_amb_tomaquet 2 года назад +145

    I think you could blame it on Disney, though.
    Back when I was in my My Litlle Pony fan days, I remember that the creators wanted to name the main ruler of Equestria “Queen Celestia”, but Hasbro told them to change that since in most Disney movies the queens were usually villains when princesses were the main (and favorite characters). That’s why she finally came to be “Princess Celestia”, even if her parents didn’t rule the land, and the villains could be treated as “King” or “Queen”.
    If you come to think about it, many kids’ franchises follow that Disney rule. Maybe it wasn’t always the intention in SMB’s case, but as it started growing in the West, they kinda started oppressing her parents. That also might be why we see a stupid king rather than a mother that might be considered evil.
    Edit: A proof of this is thas Peach/ Toadstool is a Princess when Bowser/Koopa is a King.

    • @lewatoaofair2522
      @lewatoaofair2522 2 года назад +11

      Fucking Disney!

    • @qualityghost
      @qualityghost 2 года назад +18

      I just came down here to comment the exact same thing, because coincidentally enough, I found out this exact fact today! Queens are just a lot less marketable and easy to look up to (apparently) because they're often so notoriously evil in media. I think the one exception to this I can think of is Elsa from Frozen, and even she was technically an antagonist in the first film. Pretty interesting stuff!

    • @Pa_amb_tomaquet
      @Pa_amb_tomaquet 2 года назад +14

      @@qualityghost I went into ressearching a little bit more today and I figured out that this happens because most princesses grow up without their mothers on Disney movies, and usually there's an evil stepmother, that tends to become the *queen*, who treats badly her daughter. I always tought of it as something that made it harder for kids to engage with their step parents. Anyways, thanks for reading such a long comment, it's good to see that I wasn't the only one who tought that!

    • @TyGuy2462
      @TyGuy2462 2 года назад

      @@qualityghost I think you meant _more_ marketable, not less?

    • @qualityghost
      @qualityghost 2 года назад +2

      @@TyGuy2462 whoops, I meant to say queens, not princesses. so... technically I *didn't* mean to say more marketable, lmao

  • @Astaroth73
    @Astaroth73 2 года назад +5

    Everyone always ask "who's princess peach's parents?" But no one ask "where's princess peach's parents now?"

    • @gelmanbegum9934
      @gelmanbegum9934 Год назад

      Or even better How are princess Peach's parents now ?

  • @random_corner5376
    @random_corner5376 Год назад +1

    Well I did noticed a change with Peach since Super Mario 64. It started out as Princess Toadstool, and she signed her name “Peach” when writing a letter to Mario

  • @HH-sn5qp
    @HH-sn5qp 2 года назад +533

    Why doesn’t your voice sound like it used to?

    • @ThomasGameDocs
      @ThomasGameDocs  2 года назад +519

      i got old

    • @Giyothecoolkid2338
      @Giyothecoolkid2338 2 года назад +119

      @@ThomasGameDocs Albert Einstein level answer

    • @Luingi
      @Luingi 2 года назад +31

      @@ThomasGameDocs so puberty

    • @HH-sn5qp
      @HH-sn5qp 2 года назад +18

      @@ThomasGameDocs you age well at least

    • @hunter-6125
      @hunter-6125 2 года назад +13

      @@ThomasGameDocs TRUUUUUEEE

  • @treseancann1261
    @treseancann1261 2 года назад +87

    I never understood why her parents were never revealed. Same with Daisy.

    • @giselengimbi2705
      @giselengimbi2705 2 года назад +23

      Daisy? Her castle was never revealed and you expect her parents?

    • @NobaraGamezzz
      @NobaraGamezzz 2 года назад +2

      Daisy has a father though. Watch the super mario bros movie.

    • @KingGisInDaHouse
      @KingGisInDaHouse 2 года назад +3

      @@NobaraGamezzz not canon

    • @VeilanYume
      @VeilanYume 2 года назад +8

      @@KingGisInDaHouse The movie might not be, but there's a line in Mario Party 3 where Daisy talks about not losing to her father according to the Super Mario Wiki.
      www.mariowiki.com/Princess_Daisy
      It's in the section talking about her personality. So, for sure, it's at least canon in the Mario Party series that Daisy has a father. Still no word about a mother, though.

    • @zipperooni
      @zipperooni 2 года назад +11

      Honestly I’d just love to see more of daisy’s character explored in general shes my fav in the whole Mario franchise yet rarely appears in mainline games

  • @skylargray5642
    @skylargray5642 2 года назад +3

    6:52 The Mushroom king looks like Mario
    Could it be Peach has Daddy issues? 💀

  • @katherinekathie5258
    @katherinekathie5258 2 года назад +1

    5:42 the kings hat is the Mario equivalent of money print

  • @Messiah.Complex
    @Messiah.Complex 2 года назад +37

    I always assumed Toadsworth was Peach's father and the King but just kind of retired. Letting Peach rule in place of him and she will become Queen when he passes away.
    (Explains why she's Princess Toadstool)

    • @malachiroberts6198
      @malachiroberts6198 2 года назад +1

      I also assumed this as a kid too.

    • @notsuperbroz69
      @notsuperbroz69 Год назад +2

      Finally somebody actually understands. It’s toadsworth

    • @GameyRaccoon
      @GameyRaccoon Год назад +2

      toadsworth is the prime minister of the mushroom kingdom.

    • @PhantomOfficial07
      @PhantomOfficial07 Год назад +1

      Yeah this is gonna be my headcanon from now on, makes the most sense
      I think Toadsworth may have died tho since we have not seen him in a platformer since the DS, and haven't seen him at all since Dream Team in 2013, almost 10 years ago

  • @commandantcousteau6874
    @commandantcousteau6874 2 года назад +107

    With their daughter never having a son,it's no wonder why they almost never show up.

    • @hayleywaalen2612
      @hayleywaalen2612 2 года назад +11

      Or daughter!

    • @Gabriel-zy7ee
      @Gabriel-zy7ee 2 года назад +15

      I can already imagine Mario and Peach getting wheres grand kid envelopes lol.

    • @loganmiller7827
      @loganmiller7827 2 года назад +7

      Baby Peach exists but if you go off of games like Yoshi's Island DS or Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time it seems unlikely that the babies are actually the character's children and are their actual baby versions of themselves that time traveled to join in on the Kart racing and baseball games so there's that

    • @Pa_amb_tomaquet
      @Pa_amb_tomaquet 2 года назад +2

      @@loganmiller7827 Considering that Peach got kidnapped in Partners in time, they've gotta be crazy to keep bringing those kids to the future back and forth.
      ...But thinking about that game, Peach had a babysitter that looked a lot like her father figure there, right? I don't think he's her biological father since he's a mushroom, but it would be fair enough if he was her adoptive father or something.

    • @christywakeen229
      @christywakeen229 2 года назад +10

      I just suddenly remembered the Fancomic where Mario and Peach have twin boys and Luigi and Daisy have a Daughter. Not quite sure why that came into mind when I saw this comment thread.

  • @General_Taylor
    @General_Taylor 2 года назад +1

    7:21 "Its so effective it has no effect!"

  • @testaccount4830
    @testaccount4830 2 года назад +4

    4:45 read the text beside the bloody image.

    • @masont.3198
      @masont.3198 Год назад +1

      Didn't even notice that until you pointed it out. Good eye there, m8.

    • @mariajimenafigueroa233
      @mariajimenafigueroa233 10 месяцев назад

      Yes, that's not the queen. That's Peach!

  • @Noah-gf3qd
    @Noah-gf3qd 2 года назад +16

    Now we need to know the parents of Mario, Luigi, Toad, Bowser, Donkey Kong, Rosilina, Toadette, Bowser Jr. and all of the other semi-relevant characters...

    • @Yoshikarter1
      @Yoshikarter1 2 года назад +8

      We actually see Mario's and Luigi's parents at the end of Yoshi's Island, (SNES) but not clear views of their faces. Bowser's Jr.'s father is obviously Bowser, but we don't know who his mother is/was. Rosalina's mother passed away and is buried under a tree on a hill, as told in the story Rosalina reads to the Lumas, but we don't know who her father is/was.

    • @chocolixo
      @chocolixo 2 года назад +1

      There's mama mario from the super show lol

    • @Noah-gf3qd
      @Noah-gf3qd 2 года назад

      @@chocolixo I know that, but I mean both parents of all of those characters

    • @aedaniammx7559
      @aedaniammx7559 2 года назад

      Let’s be real, in Yoshi’s Island/New Island we see Baby Mario and Baby Luigi delivered to their parents via stork, they’re almost certainly adopted.

    • @muffin_the_metalhead3488
      @muffin_the_metalhead3488 2 года назад

      fun fact: Wario is actually an orphan according to Yoshi’s Island DS.

  • @lamasu8060
    @lamasu8060 2 года назад +8

    7:01 I see where peach got that from lmao

  • @gamewisdomgaming
    @gamewisdomgaming 2 года назад +14

    Plot twist her parents are actually wario and waluigi

    • @SuperMarioAaron64
      @SuperMarioAaron64 2 года назад +2

      Noooooooo!

    • @luigilover2429
      @luigilover2429 2 года назад +1

      That would be the best plot twist

    • @UncleUncleRj
      @UncleUncleRj 2 года назад +1

      Wario's their father. Mario and the Princess turn out to be twins....

  • @admiralAlfonso9001
    @admiralAlfonso9001 2 года назад +2

    7:13 I never thought I would ever hear that

  • @galactic4590
    @galactic4590 2 года назад +70

    This was an insane Discovery!

    • @notsuperbroz69
      @notsuperbroz69 Год назад

      That toadsworth is the dad/king

    • @thumtak_
      @thumtak_ Год назад

      that she has parents? yeah no shit

  • @Zveebo
    @Zveebo 2 года назад +14

    “bummer!”
    I was not expecting the prominence of this word in this video tbh 😅

  • @popculturesauce5367
    @popculturesauce5367 2 года назад +6

    I can't help seeing the similarities of Jasmine's dad in Aladdin. It is a miracle that Peach was born in the first place.... lol!

  • @GMaster4308
    @GMaster4308 2 года назад +5

    Only OGs will remember "Who are Princess Peach's parents?"

  • @Portersona69420
    @Portersona69420 2 года назад +13

    The Secret origins of the SMG4 universe: 7:12

  • @laneland
    @laneland 2 года назад +19

    The Grandma character in Mario RPG has the same localization problem as SMB, in the Japanese game her name translates to “maid”

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 2 года назад +4

    as a kid i just assumed the king in the intro of mario 3 is her dad "help the KING has been transformed please find the magic wand so we can change him back"

  • @pavloverboy
    @pavloverboy 2 года назад +10

    This feels like it would be right at home on Game Theory. I even thought the thumbnail was one of Matpat's videos and did a double-take when I saw the channel name. The only difference is that this is better written than whatever he's been up to these past few years.

    • @muffin_the_metalhead3488
      @muffin_the_metalhead3488 2 года назад

      i miss 2012 MatPat. screwattack logo in the corner, copyrighted music, and impact font memes for every word…also his theories back then ALMOST made sense.

  • @bigbigbigbigbigman
    @bigbigbigbigbigman 2 года назад +33

    So technically it's the Mushroom Principality.

    • @JezzaWest
      @JezzaWest 2 года назад +1

      Not officially

    • @AsecasJavi
      @AsecasJavi 2 года назад

      Candy kingdom even if she's princess bubblegum too

    • @AmericanCatlover2.0
      @AmericanCatlover2.0 2 года назад

      This is a common issue in fiction, Candy kingdom, kingdom of equestria, etcetera etcetera.

    • @b1nary_f1nary
      @b1nary_f1nary 2 года назад

      No cos it's not on earth. Earth rules don't apply :D

  • @KingYoshi93
    @KingYoshi93 2 года назад +10

    5:08 Omg, this design for the king looks kinda cursed. 💀

  • @nerdsmyspiritanimal2676
    @nerdsmyspiritanimal2676 2 года назад +2

    You do know Peach came from a Stork like Mario and Luigi. However that works, perhaps an order was placed for Peach, but her parents died from unknown reasons her parents died before they were delivered.

  • @turtle4llama
    @turtle4llama 2 года назад +26

    "She's a princess, not a queen. Surely there are monarchs above her."
    *Wales has entered chat*

  • @thewierdhurchin8209
    @thewierdhurchin8209 2 года назад +3

    9:42 cursed toad

  • @gljames24
    @gljames24 2 года назад +29

    She is still called princess Toadstool. It's princess Peach Toadstool.

    • @MetaDash
      @MetaDash 2 года назад +9

      Technically yes, but like Eggman vs. Robotnik, one name is a product of English localization and not in the Japanese versions.
      Peach was always Peach.

    • @sometf2player752
      @sometf2player752 2 года назад

      According to super Mario 64 its princess toadstool peach

    • @SablePaintbrush
      @SablePaintbrush 2 года назад +9

      @@sometf2player752 No, that 'Peach' at the end is enunciated in such a way to imply a first or a nickname.

    • @realreptillianjesus
      @realreptillianjesus 2 года назад +11

      I like to think that Toadstool is Peaches' last name and that they only started to refer to her first name after mario 64.

  • @GeeMannn
    @GeeMannn 2 года назад +4

    King and Queen Toadstool look so cute together! Thanks for sharing

  • @JammerRammy
    @JammerRammy 2 года назад +4

    That was a really cool deep dive in more obscure Mario media! Now I want to check out those old japanese guides

  • @iyadlamouri6572
    @iyadlamouri6572 2 года назад +13

    My psychiatrist: mario lore isn't real, he can't hurt you
    mario lore:

  • @imaksta
    @imaksta 2 года назад +17

    I really like how Thomas says the word "Japaneeeeese"

  • @cendrecovfefe2496
    @cendrecovfefe2496 2 года назад +1

    Your channel is one of the best I know.
    1. I'm learning
    2. You're investigating yourself
    3. Understandable for non English speakers (I'm french)
    4. It's entertaining
    Keep going !

  • @kevinkerkhoff6670
    @kevinkerkhoff6670 2 года назад

    Just wanted to say I love your use of the old Windows XP background at 6:33 and across your other videos. Always makes me nostalgic.

  • @sasamichan
    @sasamichan 2 года назад +21

    I always felt that we HAD seen the King in either SMB3 or in the live action film. I know we see Zelda's Father a few different ways.
    and I thought there was a king in the Mario Anime but that could have been some one else. Nintendo Power also had comics but I suppose he wasn't in those either?

    • @carolinian2009
      @carolinian2009 2 года назад +3

      The key with Zelda is that they're different Zeldas and thus, different Dads/Kings, but in several Zelda games, there's no mention of a King at all. In Twilight Princess, it's Zelda on the throne, surrendering the Kingdom to Zant. In Spirit Tracks, Zelda sits on the Throne (but has an evil Chancellor bossing her around).

    • @sasamichan
      @sasamichan 2 года назад

      @@carolinian2009 and yet we see a king in Link to the Past, as well as some non-canon sources. I'll name the one I know for certain. I think there was one in OoT. and There's a king in Wind Waker. but I don't know the full history. that's why I said Some.

    • @disventureinkmaster
      @disventureinkmaster 2 года назад

      Live action movie but it's daisy's dad

    • @notsuperbroz69
      @notsuperbroz69 Год назад

      Have you ever heard of Mario sunshine… toadsworth exist you know?

  • @KingGisInDaHouse
    @KingGisInDaHouse 2 года назад +2

    7:33 like that one episode of futurama

  • @heavenly4321-
    @heavenly4321- 2 года назад +5

    "The king is stupid and always gets kidnapped" Me: father and daughter vibes I can relate so much 😭😀😂

  • @DylanMatthewTurner
    @DylanMatthewTurner 2 года назад +30

    I always assumed it was Toadsworth and that she was named princess because she was a special Toad that was tall and human-like. That's why Toadsworth gets to be in the palace, but clearly isn't king

    • @thomased22legoyodagaming
      @thomased22legoyodagaming 2 года назад +4

      That would be weird.

    • @Rogeryoo
      @Rogeryoo 2 года назад +6

      I personally thought he was just her butler/caretaker ever since she was a baby, which is what he probably is.

    • @aedaniammx7559
      @aedaniammx7559 2 года назад

      I never thought about it that way, but I guess it is possible... Partners in Time shows that the ages line up, and even as a baby no one else is around her at least

    • @muffin_the_metalhead3488
      @muffin_the_metalhead3488 2 года назад

      i thought Peach called Toadsworth dad in one game. i can’t remember which one tho.

  • @KingYoshi93
    @KingYoshi93 2 года назад +11

    6:40 Hm, so do you think the queen lives somewhere else in this universe? Or is she dead? 💀

  • @tulpenbambus
    @tulpenbambus 2 года назад +2

    4:15 That's the same image Nintendo took as a background in the SM64DS casino gambling machine.

  • @VirtualScallop
    @VirtualScallop 2 года назад +5

    I know it's probably going to be said a fair amount of times, or has probably already even been said, but the coloring book version of the king reminds me of the Pringles logo

  • @MaybeImSkittleMaybeImNot
    @MaybeImSkittleMaybeImNot 2 года назад +10

    I've been asking my mom this from over a year

  • @KingYoshi93
    @KingYoshi93 2 года назад +15

    I love your channel! 🥰

  • @ChrisDoc
    @ChrisDoc 2 года назад

    I’ve always wondered this!!! Great video!! 🙌🏼

  • @chloec4127
    @chloec4127 2 года назад +1

    I find it hilarious that obscure and outdated lore is found in the original manuals or the comics. Like the original Hero of Hyrule from the first Zelda game isn’t even Hyrulean, he’s from a place called Calatia and he has actual parents.

  • @jairoliradeamorimjr3262
    @jairoliradeamorimjr3262 2 года назад +5

    Thomas: But other than that, the Queen is never mentioned in any of these comics.
    Me: What a bummer...

  • @Krypto.o
    @Krypto.o 2 года назад +4

    Your voice is so soothing bro If you made a documentary about water bottles I’d watch it

  • @SarahKahlan
    @SarahKahlan 2 года назад

    Oh wow I was just thinking about this yesterday. Nice video!!

  • @raphdraws
    @raphdraws Год назад +2

    I have to say, the artist illustrating peach's parents took a lot of inspiration from Aurora's family in Sleeping beauty, I first saw it in the similarity in both Princess Toadstool's crown as well as the queen's, and at 4:46 we can clearly see the same clothes from Aurora on P. Toadstool, as well as the outfits of King Stephen and Queen Leah for the parents ;D

    • @raphdraws
      @raphdraws Год назад

      @@Blueness1230 nah nah it's literally the same design this is not how fashion history works

  • @Iroh72
    @Iroh72 2 года назад +8

    Omg you have the cutest way of saying "bye"

  • @Sly88Frye
    @Sly88Frye 2 года назад +3

    This was well detailed and well explained, but I couldn't help but expect to see that funny classic short video from Dorkly when Peach's father doesn't want her to marry an Italian

  • @sprinklesplash810
    @sprinklesplash810 2 года назад +2

    Lol I assumed this was a Princess Celestia (from My Little Pony) situation where the Princess character has no parents and should be queen but prefer to be called Princess/ the creators want the more marketable title of Princess for their main female character.

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 2 года назад

    Neat analysis! Thanks for uploading!

  • @havk.
    @havk. 2 года назад +4

    I actually kinda wish these two got more attention. Maybe they could make a return similar to how Pauline did?

  • @Bacchus325
    @Bacchus325 2 года назад +3

    Oh man I have one of those comics and there's actually a cassette tape which is a read aloud with fully voiced characters including the King.

  • @ninjagamer1359
    @ninjagamer1359 2 года назад +1

    My goodness your videos are so interesting and informative. You really do so well with the research, and always present it in an entertaining and intriguing way. That’s it, I’m subbing.

  • @mirandamaritima
    @mirandamaritima 2 года назад

    The best video I've never seen xD! Thank you !

  • @AWESOMEMANOG
    @AWESOMEMANOG 2 года назад +4

    The fact he gets kidnapped makes me know where peach gets it from

  • @FullyOnVolks
    @FullyOnVolks 2 года назад +9

    “Princess Peachs’ Parents”
    Try saying that 20 times in a row

  • @mybabydoritotoad1734
    @mybabydoritotoad1734 2 года назад

    your videos are so amazing to watch! keep up the good work dude :D

  • @SPac316
    @SPac316 2 года назад

    I used to have that Super Mario Paint N Marker book as a kid. I'm glad you talked about it because I remember seeing the king in it.
    Anyway, I'm always gonna assume she is Princess Peach Toadstool, daughter of King and Queen Toadstool of the Mushroom Kingdom.

  • @R.K_Chalkboard
    @R.K_Chalkboard 2 года назад +3

    I think the more cannon option is that she doesn't have parents, she's an orphan. She never gets to see her parents, and so we don't either. The exist, they have personalities, and now we know what they look like, but she never gets to see them.

  • @Ind0nesiannationalteamgoated
    @Ind0nesiannationalteamgoated Год назад +3

    Super mario bros movie: *Throws this vid out of the window*

  • @Xaynier
    @Xaynier 2 года назад

    Great work Thomas!

  • @Rock-fj3qi
    @Rock-fj3qi 2 года назад

    Your videos are amazing!

  • @KingYoshi93
    @KingYoshi93 2 года назад +18

    4:00 How "official" are these guide books? And why are there no actual Toads in the image? I find Peach's design a little weird since this is not even what she looks like in SMB.

    • @astrocandy148
      @astrocandy148 2 года назад +12

      I don't know how official it is, but like 90% of characters in video game art back then looked different from their in-game design.

    • @IsomerMashups
      @IsomerMashups 2 года назад +1

      It could also be the case that she has ceremonial clothes and everyday clothes, and this is her ceremonial outfit.

  • @eledestiny9400
    @eledestiny9400 2 года назад +3

    Although, I was sure that in the "Mario and Luigi- Partners in Time" games, Peach's father appeared quite a lot and had pretty important scenes dedicated to him that showed his personality along with the love he felt for his daughter that was finally blooming to take over the kingdom but got somehow trapped in the past eras (I won't spoiler why or how for those who have yet to play it).
    Maybe I'm missing something here (?)
    That was not the father we are looking for (?)

    • @wilsonso5784
      @wilsonso5784 2 года назад +3

      Pretty sure that was Toadsworth.

    • @eledestiny9400
      @eledestiny9400 2 года назад +1

      @@wilsonso5784 So He was not the king...? My life has been a lie this whole time😳

  • @danizelda4230
    @danizelda4230 2 года назад +2

    3:58 this version of Princess Peach is so cute 🥺🥺🥺

  • @ericasimpson6130
    @ericasimpson6130 2 года назад +1

    I love you're accent,
    I always wanted to have a accent like that.

  • @BlissfullyTired
    @BlissfullyTired 2 года назад +8

    I could have sworn Toadsworth was Princess Peach father.

    • @caseypitt1296
      @caseypitt1296 2 года назад

      It's been said that Peach sees Toadsworth as more of a father or grandfather figure, but no genetic relation as far as I know.

    • @franciscovallejos5726
      @franciscovallejos5726 2 года назад

      Lmao I also thought Toadsworth was like Mario's father in law 💀

  • @aetheralmeowstic2392
    @aetheralmeowstic2392 2 года назад +5

    Let's start a petition to put Princess Peach's parents in the next Mario game!

  • @mrmikeboy8738
    @mrmikeboy8738 2 года назад +1

    I actually remember playing smb3 and at the end of every world you got greeted by the king of the mushroom Kingdom, I remember that

  • @georgieramone
    @georgieramone 2 года назад

    I had some of those Mario comics as a kid. There were some pretty funny ones.

  • @DaisyInA_Bag
    @DaisyInA_Bag Год назад +6

    This is sad since the movie came out and just proved him wrong..

    • @idontknowwhattoputmyuserna8289
      @idontknowwhattoputmyuserna8289 Год назад +2

      How does it? I've seen the movie and it doesn't mention her parents at all.

    • @ninesalmas
      @ninesalmas Год назад +3

      @@idontknowwhattoputmyuserna8289 it explains that peach dosent remember her life as a human and was adopted from the Toads when she was a baby they also mention that they waited until she was ready to become their Princess so technically there is no king or queen

    • @idontknowwhattoputmyuserna8289
      @idontknowwhattoputmyuserna8289 Год назад +2

      @@ninesalmas That's the point; she doesn't remember them. Maybe she was sent to that world for a reason. There was no particular reason she was crowned Princess, I mean, why her? And why was she given the title of princess and not queen? Maybe the toads knew her parents were king and queen but she isn't ready to know yet.

    • @ninesalmas
      @ninesalmas Год назад

      @@idontknowwhattoputmyuserna8289 yes but maybe she is just not ready enough to be the Queen yk? And if they knew the king or the queen they would’ve bring her back to her family don’t you think?

    • @idontknowwhattoputmyuserna8289
      @idontknowwhattoputmyuserna8289 Год назад

      @@ninesalmas Her family is most likely dead, hence the reason they're keeping it from her.

  • @williamruiz5965
    @williamruiz5965 2 года назад +4

    Hey all, hope your day is going well!

  • @ThaneGaming
    @ThaneGaming 2 года назад +1

    2:07 - Mato's Legend of Localization site is one my favorites! That's where I learned Bullet Bills are just called "Killers" in Japanese 😅

  • @kaesrainbow1757
    @kaesrainbow1757 2 года назад

    Your videos are so helpful