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2022 Elantra N 0-60mph Testing + Installing POWERFLEX Bushings (Bye Bye Wheel Hop)
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2024
- We’re testing some 0-60 times on my 2022 Hyundai Elantra N, as well as testing out some Powerflex motor mount bushings. Let’s see how this goes!
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Chapters-
0:00 Intro/product overview
0:44 Installing the New Bushings
3:51 Stock 0-60mph Testing
5:07 POWERFLEX 0-60mph Testing
6:07 Average Times and Product Review
8:43 Coming Soon
8:55 Outro
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I’m so happy your channel is growing, awesome job for picking the Elantra N!!
Great video! This is definitely on my todo list. I experience wheel hop when using launch control and it’s rough, so this is much needed. Great DIY and thanks too for the torque specs!
I did this same exact mod and had the same results. This is the most cost effective performance mod out there for the EN.
Awesome do I have a question though. Does it come with the glue in the package? And do I need to buy this item twice or does it come with 4 power bushings?
I used Power Flex RMM bushings on my Veloster N. It was my first mod. Aside from wheel hop, I found they improved the clutch engagement. I am glad that you like these.
Thanks for the content-- what a simple, transformative mod! I am amused that I have done engine mount mods on every performance FWD car I have had since 1984 lol, some things never change I guess........!! In this case, no discernable change in idle vibration, more positive shifts, with mostly clean wheelspin, and if any...only very subtle, more controlled wheel hop...... It is so simple, it is hard to believe they didn't just do a slightly firmer mount from the factory.....
Nice vid! I got the purple on my veloster N. Also the purple insert for the upper mount. Helps eliminate wheel hop completely.
Glad you finally got this mod! Now it’s time to get stickier tires 🙌🏽
Awesome runs! Great to hear little to no vibrations. Worried about increased vibration being would be annoying but will check these out as an option!
The vibration isn’t that bad
The price and results speak for themselves, thanks for the legwork Brandon👍👍
If I purchase this does it come with the glue in the package that Brandon used?
@@Rururu-ci5dl glue 🤔
@@klasseact6663 the thing he applied in the video I believe it’s glue.
Very good point if you're not trying to break the bank.
Thanks for sharing your install and review!
Thanks for always watching Doug!
Wow what an amazing difference. Great vid.
Nice work as always Brother! I will be grabbing a set for my 2023 for sure!
Thank you! And definitely do it, great investment!
I must get that for My Kona N - that wheel hop is sometimes just crazy and I feel sorry for the car. Thanks for the video!
Good video brother looks like this thing actually works pretty good 🙂
Great video man, helped me install this on my Kia Forte GT!
Great details on install with torque settings. Get a GTI next so we can enjoy.
Tires squealing is way better than bang bang bang bang bang. Nice!
I got the purple bushing, I was amazed how much they helped.
I was surprised too. Best $40 I’ve spent so far on the car.
Man i need these i have manual transmission and my elantra n wheel hops so much, i freaked out the first time till i looked it up and it was a common thing.
My buddy did this to his 23 Elantra N. He said wheel hop went down and 0-60 improved 🎉
Just ordered this, parts for spring install...now just SXTH to come through with the Turbo inlet pipe & CF CPTL intake 🙏
Btw I went with the perf option like you did, there's 3 options and it worked for you so it should work for me. I wonder about when I add mods though...guess we'll see, stay "tuned"😇
I have the SXTH rear engine mount with the Powerflex front purple engine mount bushing. Not much wheel hop to speak of, but stiffer with more vibration. I may have to buy the purple bushings for the mount itself in the rear and compare. If I like it better I can always sell my SXTH rear engine mount Thanks for the video!
I can’t personally compare the 2, but I’ve definitely seen others switch to the bushings over the mount.
@@ENtense So I just ordered the purple bushings for the rear mount. The SXTH element motor mount is very rigid, lots of NVH, but it got so bad it was backing out the bolts on my cold air intake that it fell off! Love the mount, but wayyy too much vibration. I can't wait to try these Poweflex rear mount bushings. Already got the front one installed, hopefully it gets rid of wheel hop like my SXTH motor mount.
Just need some stickier front tires,
Firestone Firehawk 500's come in 245/35r19,
They helped my modded Tucson with bushings from Whiteline.
Considering the price this is quite possibly the best $$/time improvement.
Definitely agree!
Thanks for the vid, will this mod void the warranty at all?
Get a Dragy if you want accurate results. They are usually only about .1 off from the drag strip 1/4 times. It can do 0-60, 60 ft, 1/8, 1/4, 60-130 MPH, and 100-200 KPH. It's great little tool.
I’ll definitely look into getting one. I’ve had a few recommend this, thanks!
Just ordered a set. The wheel hop reduction alone is worth it.
Absolutely!
If I purchase the item from the link do I have to order it twice? Or do both engine mounts come in one
@@Rururu-ci5dl I only purchased the lower mount bushings. That eliminated the wheel hop for me.
@@Fauxbra nice! Does it come with the glue in the package?
@entense when are you going quarter mile with new bushings?
Great find bro! $40 bucks that can shred of some time on your 0-60 and help eliminate some wheel hop/wearntear on suspension!
Couple questions, I went on the
website and noticed there is a grade higher (black racing bushing). Is there a reason why you didn’t go with those instead of the performance purple?
Lastly did you try this out of the dig using NGS? Great job Brandon!
I went with the purple because this is my daily driver, and I didn’t want an increase in NVH. The black ones will likely cause more vibrations. And this time I didn’t use ngs, and octane was also not performed. Planning on using for our next upcoming test though 👌🏻
you'd think hyundai would just fix it.
Hi,do you know if those bushings are also good for the regular Elantra? I've got and elantra 2022 in Europe with 1.6 l engine and I would like to have some stiffer bushings
Thank you, what do you think is a fair price for a shop to charge to install these?
Besides wheel hop what is an other advantage?
If I purchase the item from the link do I have to order it twice? Or do both engine mounts come in one order?
Did you have any sort of discount code foe these bushings?
Does this effect / harm the car overtime when adding the bushings?
You should have done the transmission and engine mount inserts from Powerflex, too. No one has done a video on that, yet.
Going to do my best to make that happen 👍🏻
How did you get under the car?
Also a 5.1 just by switching bushings you cut the better half of 1 second off. I've seen these hit 4.4 0-60 and 12.53 @114 with nothing more than a jb4 on the e30 map. Jb4 isn't a full tune so that's likley what's gonna happen with a full tune. Cut a 2.14 60' that trap is low 12s high 11s with almost nothing done to it. I'm hoping they end up putting this platform in the forte gt I like those but am holding out for a performance model
Definitely room for improvement with more trial and error with launch control and more performance modifications. We’ll get there 💪🏻
Hey man did you have to support the engine or transmission when you took the mount out?
I was going to at first, but I didn’t have to at all. It honestly didn’t budge at all 👍🏻
@@ENtense perfect thanks!
Look forward to seeing what these cars can do with the Nitto 555R2's on front
You can drive them in the rain
I’m open to options on what to try for next spring haha. But I’m honestly planning on getting some slicks for next year, really hoping to push this thing at the drag strip.
@@ENtense
That makes sense in colder climates
You can fit your drag wheels in the trunk
I've done that before
Do you have access to E85 close by your house ?
@@Highlander1432 I’m sure there’s some around here, not sure how I feel about any e30 mix though
@@ENtense
It's much better for your engine
I think it's a great idea you're waiting for more tuning options.
There might be a way to run 100% E85
Probably would need to upgrade injectors and pump though...
E will let you run more consistently with a big bump in power
How did the new bushing affect ride and vibration levels?
Honestly I don’t notice any difference
Any reason for not going with the black race bushing over the purple performance?
I wanted to reduce any chance of increased NVH. It’s my daily driver so I don’t want the ride to be rough.
@@ENtense Thats kinda what I figured😎👍
the website shows the race one as being the best option. any reason you went with performance over the race option?
I’ve had a couple people ask me this lol. But mostly because it’s my daily driver and I didn’t want to risk increasing NVH.
@@ENtense yeah that makes sense, I am daily driving my EN as well. Ill probably go with the performance option myself!
Is it because the bushes are softer? I haven’t looked into it yet but wondered if this changes anything with handling?
the new ones are harder. not softer.
Wondering would this void the warranty on the car? I just got EN and am looking at mods for the car that does not void the warranty.
Nah, these would likely be unnoticeable. They’re only bushings, and if anything they’ll keep your suspension safer.
So I don't need to support anything with a jack while installing this bushing? Just double checking
Technically no, nothing moved an inch when I did it. But it certainly wouldn’t hurt to put something underneath to support it.
Do you need to support the engine if only changing the lower mount?
No I got my SXTH lower engine mount on the other day, took 30 mins.
How come you didn’t use NGS for the launches?
NGS won’t do much for launches, better for roll racing. Beyond that, it was already tough filming with one hand and driving with the other. I need a headcam lol
What was your makeshift Vice? I don't have a vice and would rather not buy one for 25 bucks
thats a c-clamp..
Does it say in the directions to lube it up like that?
Yes, it comes with the little grease packet
Barely to no vibrations with just this compared to havingall three?
W/the first mounts and adding the other 2 inserts, no difference truly. The vibrations are so minimal that I never notice them unless I’m looking for them. 👌🏻
why did you get the purple and not the black ones since they are better ..
I didn’t want to risk increase in NVH. It’s still my daily driver and those are the best option to keep the cabin quiet and limit vibration.
Do you think the Race version of the bushing would be even better?
You may potentially get a very small difference in performance, but if you daily drive it, probably not worth the extra potential chance at increased NVH levels
@@ENtense picked my EN up last Friday, 50 miles home from the dealership now have break in oil to put in. Love watching your videos.
@@BecauseHYDE16 congrats on your EN! And thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Yo do you know what kinda grease that is? My bushings didn’t come with any lol
Any kind of synthetic grease will do. I used mobil 1. It's red.
Was this before fuel re-learn?
Yes, I forgot to mention this was all done without octane learning. I plan on doing more testing with octane learning in the future.
Are you sure you wanted to reuse those? They looked to be torque to yield bolts...
Hm, well nowhere have I seen any recommendations or requirements to replace the bolts.
Embarrassing to ask this as an already owner but where in the menus is the 0-60 timer?
On the N mode screen, click lap timer. Then click acceleration 👍🏻
Would installing this void any warranties?
If any failure can be traced back to the motor mounts not providing enough shock relief, then yes. Typically you won’t see that issue unless you’re absolutely abusing cars.
If you’re worried about it, I’d probably recommend a 70A rating (the yellow one from these guys). End of the day there probably won’t be an issue if you don’t intentionally abuse the car to an insane level.
Is there a reason why you wouldn't get the Race (Black) bushings? For the price difference it seems like a no brain-er to me, but I may be missing info.
This is my daily driver and I didn’t want to risk any increase in NVH. The black ones will likely create a bit of a vibration.
@@ENtense gotcha. That makes sense. 👍 Thanks for the insight.
The tires hot enough?
I made sure to drive it around a bit before doing both test sessions. Outside conditions were fairly warm as well.
So strange to me that all it took to help mitigate wheel hop was slightly altering those bushings, and they didn't. Especially when they spent a ton of money on other performance aspects. This would have cost them basically nothing but woulda made a huge difference. Maybe they didn't use the polyurethane because they're not as durable or reliable as the stock ones? I really don't know
I don’t think they wanted to increase any inside vibrations or noise levels
You can’t switch those out at will, or have the car to do it. It’s supposed to be a daily driver, and the driver can change and add at will.
@@ENtense yeah but I figured there must have been a compromise. Some kind of material that doesn't cause as much nvh as the polyurethane but allows for less wheel hop. Because the factory wheel hop is so bad it sounds like the car is breaking apart. I know it's FWD problem in general with higher power but seems even worse in the EN. Maybe I'm wrong though
@@HD_Kerino yes it's supposed to be a daily driver, but it's also meant to be a budget high performance sports car (track car). All I know is in my buddies N, as amazing as it is, I've never felt wheel hop on hard acceleration like that in any other higher horsepower FWD car. It literally felt like the car was smashing to pieces BANG BANG BANG.... So I just assumed since bierman took so much care in perfecting so many other performance aspects of this car, that he might have used some other type of material or bushing that would at least reduce that extreme level of Wheelhop. I'm sure they acknowledged the problem and used what gave them the best results for both the comforts of daily driving and track use.. but still, it's so bad.
I'm not talking about a sonata or Kona N line (as I wouldn't expect those to have come from the factory with anything to mitigate whatever we'll help they have, as those are slightly more luxurious daily drivers that can also be also sporty and fun to drive.
I'm strictly speaking about the true dedicated N cars. And the fact that everything else on them is so perfectly dialed in makes me scratch my head when I picture the engineers doing 0-60 tests, feeling that BANG BANG BANG, and not figuring out a way to at least reduce it. I know you can't completely get rid of it without getting tons of NVH, but I assumed there had to be a middle ground. Some other shape or material that could have been used. Something added or taken away? Maybe there really isn't anything that can give you the best of both worlds. I'm no engineer.
Even on GTIs, Si's, Focus ST's, Speed 3's, GTI's, Cobalt SS etc, they didn't come close to performing as well as the EN, and yes they all had a torque steer (especially the ms3) and some wheel hop... But the wheel hop on this EN is legendary.
And the fact that the EN spared very little expense in turning this Elantra into a daily that can be brought to the track right out of the box is something that the other cars I mentioned cannot claim.
The EN does seem like the power is underrated and from what I understand it's putting down more like around 280 HP to the wheels which is a heck of a lot more than the others, so that could definitely be a major factor in the added wheel hop
@@Daveyboy_GolfR well it’s a track car, wouldn’t be dragging a track car. But I’ve been in an N with more than 350 HP and hop isn’t there, my girlfriend has a Forte GT that doesn’t wheel hop. My old Optima SXL with over 300 HP didn’t wheel hop, etc. I’m not really sure why the N’s have the issue, but I wouldn’t be dragging the thing, just like I don’t with my Stinger.
we're all your test in the same location?
For the most part yes, with exception to the dumb uphill run I did lol. Regardless, the 0-60 times can have so many variables, so I don’t necessarily say those numbers are solid. The main reason I did the bushings was to reduce wheel hop.
You can eliminate wheel hop on any front wheel drive car no matter the torque or Horsepower...your problem mostly relies on those tires...no the actutal suspention...my kona have 0 wheel hop.
Tires can definitely help as well. Planning on getting a nice setup for next spring for the drag strip as well 👌🏻
@@ENtense 18s with 245 45 or 40 resolve my problem...keep the good videos coming...btw...did you see the EN that runs 12.7@111 here in Puerto Rico?? JV tuned
@@scoupemaster I did see. Was kind of hoping for a better time honestly with the power they stated they had.
@@ENtense juan told me 340hp.....i thinks there is a little confusion here but he can clarify that
my EN turbo goes 19 psi stable..
When octane learning is done, yes.
Imagine if it was octane learned😋
goes to show there's a lot of variation.. you've got ppl getting 4.6 0-60 stock! not super consistent vehicle 0-60 wise
Yeah I stated this in the video as well, I plan on doing some more testing with octane learning done, should easily be able to get under 5 seconds. Roads conditions, outside temps and all that will vary too. Plus the roads around me are terrible lol.
Why not just replace the whole engine mount i here that gets rid of wheel hop better
There have been people selling their mounts and switching to these. NVH is a lot worse with those mounts, plus this is a LOT cheaper.
I am concerned about warranty implications with this. Honestly, I'm concerned about any performance modification to the EN with the long warranty.
I totally understand your concern, and at the same time the warranty is very important to me as well with this being my daily driver. With this product, the odds of it causing any issues would be astronomically rare, and at the same time it could easily be put back to stock. Also consider how unlikely it would be to notice these on your car 👍🏻
@@ENtense Good point, if you had anything drive train related you could switch it back. I think I'm going to leave mine stock for now. Thanks for posting the video. 👏
Hey man a Dragy would add alot of legitimacy to your testing if you're questioning the car's timer.
I’ve never used that before, I’ll look into it.
@@ENtense
It's like $150
You can save and compare results.
It's pretty much within a tenth of an actual track also.
You can do 60-130 runs too
This might also have to do with altitude and road conditions as I've seen other stock Elantra N DCT's on RUclips that are doing 0-60 mph in 4.6 seconds just like this guys vid: ruclips.net/video/bZpDW2BIg84/видео.html
Yeah I agree, he had so performed octane learning, which I’ll do in my next test
Yup, my 100% stock DCT has run 4.6's on my few attempts at 0-60's.
those are for manual cars. i dont think you get much improvements on auto. I have manual elantra N which i got 2 weeks ago. I never experience wheel hop because i shift lik grandma from 1-3
Start ripping it! 😂 and there’s no reason why this won’t help regardless of auto/manual. Definitely works for both.
@@ENtense i mean autos shift themselves electronically so it prettymuch smooth. I dont mean its doesnt help autos, I mean its negligible.
@@rayj33 that wheel hop would say otherwise
@@rayj33 I can tell you for a fact that the factory wheel hop is horrible also with the automatic, it’s not as bad as the manual but when I switched to the lower motor Mount from SXTH, my acceleration improved by a .5 second, my 1/4 mile time on the track also Improved
I get wheel hop on my MT all the way to 3rd gear. I've only ever floored the car once because the wheel hop was so bad. Then again, I should've probably turned off traction control too.
thats about 0.2 s quicker
There's nothing you can do about it.
Here's what we're gonna do.
just get Jb4
I debated whether to get the Elantra N or a WRX GT. I ended up going with a Ford Edge ST AWD. The ST is absolutely fucking amazing compared to the other two. Best decision I’ve made. Nothing like a twin turbo V6.
I dont see how your comment relates. Your comparing sedan vs suv and to make matters worse thats like 15 grand more than the EN. Plus I track drive me car...... regardless of what power you have, you still won't be able to be anywhere near me (you see what I did there, apples vs oranges)
Maximus I agree I ended up going with a Fusion Sport I have videos on this account if you want to check it out, it's tuned on e30 now just got new wheels and 255/45/18s and about to install the CPE rear motor mount. Shooting for a 12.4 at 112 best time so far is 12.61 at 111.59 with a crappy 2.02 60ft with the stock 235/40/19s. The EcoBoosts are underated platforms with just a tune you can gain tons of power and the intelligent AWD hooks, I also love the enhanced suspension damping when you turn on Sport mode makes it handle great for what it is. I believe the Fusion Sport is the best Bang for the Buck all around car for under $25k. Only other car that really compares for the price in almost all aspects is the Audi A3 but it needs at least a tune to even be fun
@@GeoSnipesW I like the EN alot but from a dig you'll never be able to hang especially if the Ecoboost is tuned, and for city driving acceleration is key so I think for daily driving the EcoBoosts probably edge out the EN a little.
I drove a few Edge STs. They're really not that great. Transmission sucks, they don't handle well or feel very sporty or enthusiastic while driving. Even with a basic tune they're still slower than the Elantra N or Kona Ns. They are bigger and have a little more space, but that's all I'll give them other than that the seats are nice.
This comment is completely irrelevant.
there's launch control on that hoopty? lmfaooooooo. its like 5 seconds tops haha. gimmick much? all that race shit?? lol is 5 sec even a sport's car these days?
People have gotten well under 5s with these, times in reality that are up there with the absolute fastest FWD production cars on the market. It's a ~300hp car that costs less than 34k, there really isn't ANYTHING faster 0-60 or 1/4 mile you can buy for the same price aside from the EB Mustangs, and these aren't drag cars, they're more designed for cornering / track use.
I just got these applied to my elantra sport and man the grip!!