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2022 Hyundai Elantra N Gets TUNED! SXTH Element Stage 1
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:27 Explaining Tuning the N's
2:15 Drama With Spark Plugs
3:58 Changing The Plugs First
6:20 Installing The Tuned ECU!
10:17 Driving Impressions + PULLS
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Respect for the Elantra N - the overall package/power at the price they do it at is truly impressive. A tune seems to adds so much value to an already sweet deal, just wow.
agree
Idk some of these dealers are up charging like crazy
Totally underrated channel. Decent production quality for such a low subscriber count?! We need moaaarr content!!!
Thanks for calling out the spark plug ordeal. I use NGK in all my cars including my Trans Am with a turbo and will in my N
I will agree with you! Have always used and trust NGK never had a problem or failure ever. Good content and great videography!
Same we use NGK racing plugs in my uncles racecar and never had any issues or failures
Super excited to hear more about this tune! Picked up my ceramic white DCT a couple weeks ago and I’ve been eyeing the stage 1. Love the channel man!
a what?
@@miriciousvespyre it’s the automatic transmission
@@isaacsims7640 ah no it's the way he said it that threw me off.
Mechanic 25 years here but everything you said was accurate for example taking the ECM or PCM or the car‘s computer in Laymans terms can be removed multiple times as long as you don’t force anything in the clips that you moved are designed to align the pins with each other so no damage on either side of the connection that’s just one of the things I do agree with you on the NGK they’re wonderful plugs
He also mentioned that we would only swap for “warranty work”. What does this exactly mean? We don’t need to swap it for every service, do we?
@@rakish001 No, I think he just means that if you have an issue which may involve diagnosing the ECU under warranty then you would want to swap it to stock ECU so you don't get voided. But if it's just regular maintenance then you don't have to worry about it.
damn, this elantra pulls like crazy!! Good job guys, i like you mentioned lighter battery, awesome tnx!!
FINALLY...a decent video of a tuned Elantra N that is a 6MT and has some acceleration videos.
The other ones circulating on youtube don't compare.
Thank You.
I'll get some before and after data on acceleration. Once I have my EK1 Pro I can run a bunch of vdynos too.
The only reason why tuners recommended the HKS M45XL is because it was one of the few heat 9 plugs out. The only other plug was the NGK R2556G-9, which is a straight up racing plug and what I'm currently using with the SXTH stage 2. These ILKR9Q7G has to be brand new plugs to the market. If anything, probably released sometime mid to the end of last year.
Oh and all the HKS plugs are made by NGK too. So it didn't make much sense to me why NGK didn't make a heat 9 plug directly. But I'm glad they do now as $100+ for street plugs is stupid. Went from the M45XL to the NGK R2556G-9 and it works far better with the stage 2. Less throttle lag and a much smoother and cleaner sound.
Yooo buddy is smashing them gears ✊🏾 that's how you are supposed to drive a manual I literally drive my VN like if I stole it all of the time
Patty as much as I love you, adding Will to some videos was a great move. Love the video!
As much as he hates being in my videos, he's great to have on the channel haha pretty natural on camera
Great video. I'm glad someone figured out that you need good audio to make these kind of videos watchable. Only minor complaint I have is camera stability.
I've got a regular 21 Elantra, and wow! this one is so gorgeous! I want an N one day!
This thing sounds so good!
I like ngk coppers. Ran them in a lot of boosted cars. I’m currently running the brisk silver plugs in my vw. They have been in there awhile holding there .026 gap. I would recommend.
Nathan from SXTH here :) Glad you are enjoying! As for the spark plugs, we do not get any sort of kickback. We actually go to great lengths to source the HKS M45s. The HKS plugs are made by NGK and have a different electrode and core features. We have had issues with the NGK 1422 spark plugs cracking the ceramic insulators in the past but haven't had this with the HKS plugs which is why we use them!
The tune absolutely rips. I'm anxiously waiting for the EK1's to come in (not only so I can do map switching), but also to look at the data myself and run some v-dynos. As for the spark plugs, we'll have to agree to disagree. Firstly, you guys make money from selling the HKS plugs - otherwise they wouldn't be for sale on your website. That one is going to be pretty hard to deny (which is fine, it's a business). Secondly, it's impossible to deny someone's personal experience on anything, but these aren't 1422's. In fact, they have the same .6mm Iridium electrode and they share the same platinum ground electrode. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the M45XL IS the NGK ILKR9Q7G. For me, unless there's specific data that SXTH or any tuner can share between these plugs that would warrant any tangible benefit, I'm going to stick with the cheaper and better named part. Pick your poison, I just want consumers to make educated decisions for the community to become faster as a whole.
@@jkim9383 Yes. The stock plug heat range and sometimes gap (we have seen them all over the place) does not place nicely with tuning. For optimal ignition stability we require swapping plugs.
@@williamrori1274will stage 1.5 be fast? Or increase 0-60 by half a second or so
thanks so much for this video i was just thinking which ecu tune to get
Hmmm...I ran HKS plugs for years in my tuned 1.6t and loved them.
50k interval was pretty good.
I have a VW now, stage 2, and almost every plug has a recommended 10-15k interval regardless if Denso, NGK, or Brisk
The end pulls 🔥🔥🔥
Way to go with SXTH!!!!
🔥🔥🔥 thanks guys
Padi Boi !!!! What's good bro, I love the new content keep it up even if it's something little and simple💪😎
Thanks so much for this
I do not know how far the engine and turbo can be stressed but hopefully Hyundai left much on the table. I am sure you did your research to protect yourself with Hyundai history of handling warranty claims. Good thing of having the stock ECU you can reinstall it if needed to be looked at by the dealer. My nephew just bought the Elantra N 6 speed manual few weeks ago. Very nice car and great bang for the buck! Enjoy your car in good health!
You really should look into changing your transmission oil. I had a Veloster N, and when pushing it hard, it would lock me out of 2nd and 4th, when heated up. I changed the oil in the transmission to a better oil than stock, and WOW, major improvement. No more lock outs!
What did you use?
@@AnonAnon-qi4ts he was never seen again
Dude that thing moves!!
I’m loving the videos on the N. I tried to find one near me at MSRP but every dealership was at least $3k over. So I went with a 22 Civic Si, and I love it, but I still wonder if I would have liked the N more.
Here I am trying to find a 22 si and they’re 10k over and Elantra N are 5-8k over. I hate CA.
@@ValkenDnB best thing to do is fly to other state and come back driving home if you wanna save 4 or 5 k
@@tenkayruanaya2554 I’m considering doing that if I find a color I like. I might just sell my 2019 civic si and get an 2009-2011 si or s2000. Kinda want to experience that si before they’re completely gone.
Yes you would have...that simple
Elantra N blows the civic si and the GTI out the water. Even the Kona N is seriously impressive.
Thanks for the video.. I've always loved the N's. Now you are ready to go out there and whip some type-R's a$$!!! N rules now.
So happy to know stage 1 is so easy to implement. Ecu and spark plugs for extra whp 😆
FYI ...Just changed to this plug in My 18' E.S. DCT with no tune D.P, intake, exhaust. Just the plugs make a hell of a difference to smooth out any boost surging, inconsistency, and much more consistent response on light tip in from a stop as well as seem to boost full power. Even the DCT is upshifting to second sooner on light take off instead of that weird holding first a hare too long and taking timing feeling, dont know why that is but it really refines the throttle engine relationship like when using higher octane fuel, but not.
RE: Your thoughts about the HKS plugs, when we all started tuning DI in the hyundai community with the VT, Soul Turbo, Forte Turbo , YF Sonata, Elantra Sport, Bk2 3.8 Genny and Now Elantra N , Veloster N. We all went the NGK route and we saw an extreme amount of spark plug failures where the ceramic fails and drops off the tip of the plug this has happened to me and many of my customers over the years. The preferences of the tuners stem from the HKS being the solution to ceramic cracking and failing. HKS is NGK but built with custom specifications. Now would you really want to maybe hope that your NGK don't crack and destroy your motor or go with something that we figured out over the last decade of tuning KDM cars.
Can I use the same ECU and spark plugs for my Kona N, since its the same engine? Also, do you have links for the ECU, spark plugs, and lighter battery? Awesome video btw, much appreciated!
Thanks for saving me 75 bucks on the plugs when I get the sxth stage 1 for my KN
Yep, literally no reason to run the HKS plugs. NGK is the largest OE when it comes to plugs in the world, and it's what comes standard. It's just straight up dishonest for the tuning companies to claim you need the HKS plugs.
You don't need hks plugs, but you need one step colder plugs.
Running a “colder” heat range spark plug will reduce temperatures in the combustion chamber by wicking more heat into the cylinder head. This reduces feedback knock and fine knock learning when running gasoline tunes.
Gotta give it up for Hyundai, hey are killing it right now. You can get that same Motor in the Kona N and i think it's the same one in the Veloster N..But the Elantra N is the best looking of the bunch. I drive one in a heartbeat, there was a time when nobody would say that, those days are over.
From what I understand hks plugs have ran the best as hks according to all the research I've done . But as a g70 genesis owner has is what everyone recommends over 400hp.
Love this car! Used to have a 2009 bmw 335xi tuned stage 1 but also had intake. The best thing about the tuning was that you could press a button in the car to turn the tune on and off. When it was off the dealership computers couldn’t tell the tune was installed so was able to keep warranty. 415 hp all wheel drive. I cried when BMW dropped manual transmissions from all the 3 series except for the M3.. and when audi dropped manuals in their S3 and S4 lines. Such a sad sad sad life having like 5 4door sedans that come in manual these days to choose from that aren’t ridiculously priced.. and most are so ugly. This car brought hope and faith back! I know electric cars are soon going to be the only cars but not there quiet yet so my last car before then must be manual.. and it’s this car! Looks like a pretty easy install.. love the test drive after install. Passengers face was pretty classic.
cadillac still offers manuals.. buy the ct4 v blackwing, all reviewers pick it over the m340i, and it undercuts m3 on price but similar performance. ct5v blackwing is faster then the M5 CS that costs way more, they're getting shit on
I thought I was only person in this world, who seems to thinks and feels this way. You make way more money being honest
Love the content!!! Really helping me with my N build. So far not done with the video but does this mess with warranty. I know jb4 hides from the dealers but how does this do? I’m looking for a stage 1 on my MT EN. Thank you my man!
Given it changes powertrain parameters yes warranty will likely be void however unlike a JB4 it takes 2 minutes to swap back to the factory ECU and they should be non the wiser.
@@andywiththen They can determine if the old oem ecu hasn't been running in the car if they are suspicious and look into it.
@@cstraley all you got to do is put old ecu in car and do 50-75 start cycles as most won’t go back more then 25 start cycles when checking ECU/PCM. They normally print 1-2 pages depending on program it’s 12-20 logs per sheet. Some dealerships don’t even check the ECU/PCM logs
@@ronnienasci9664 this is interesting and also the first time Ive found specific info on the subject. How sure are you of this?
I have a 22 Veloster N myself. It's had a tuned ECU from LAP3 Performance in it for a while. Since putting it in. I've had 2 warranty claims on the car for failed fuel injectors. The only way they would be able to tell that I had been running a tuned ECU at all is to have their 1 guy that can mine data come and analyze the black box. They are so busy, they most likely will never do that. I haven't been sweating them even thinking about it at all.
Nice to see this car. Wish they had more for sale.
Said I would wait...that I wasn't going to do it...I was just thinking about it...but I did it!! Ordered SXTH ECU for my DCT...now the wait begins!!
Yeahhhhhhhh buddy. It rips so hard.
Is the stage 1.5 a good tune? Will it make it faster?
Where did you get the sxth ecu? Wanna go the same route
We want a 1/4 Mile run!!
thank for be honest. please continue be true👍
Cool video...do you have the link for the battery
Stoppppp, I was already wanting one and this is growing that itch 🤣
Ayyy Michigan gang!
Great video i got a VN. I lot of things translate. I a saving up for the tune. Does it affect your other drive modes as well or just N mode?
It affects all drive modes, but the drive-ability is just as good as stock just with way more power.
This car absolutely RIPS. Spark plugs in description
Love the car, what are those wheels specs and tyres?
@@wcuesta3509 next video:)
I'm glad you said that about the plugs I only run ngk +1 colder plugs on my tuned cars. The kdm community are being sold a bill of goods! Lol
Also, the boost solenoids are a ripoff too. $150+ for that Pierburg solenoid... Guys. Buy a MAC valve for $15 and send it. I swapped out the oem solenoids on my wife's elantra sport with MAC valves and spent $35 for the two, plus some new hose.. Was less than $50 to replace the bov and boost solenoids.. You just have to know which way to connect the hoses. Easy to research.
Liking the elantra n, have a stock sel elantra.
can you provide the new lithium batterie specks and price or link please .
Do you happen to know if these same plugs work on the N Line? I'm tuned with a JB4, but need to upgrade my plugs but don't want to waste money on the HKS.
How does this spare ecu tune from Sxth compare to the Burger Tuning JB4? Which is better
Do you this these could get carbon buildup in the intake valves in future? I dont think these have port injectors like toyotas do
The N rules!!!
Of course there is a VW GTI in the driveway :) ! If I buy the EN I would be coming from VW/Audi also and I think it would feel natural, especially since my last VW was the GLI but the EN is a MUCH better GLI in my opinion. It is what the GLI should've morphed into, better seats, more power, more sound, more track focused.
Hey man,
I'm în Romania, Europe and I'm using an elantra exclusive CVT 126hp, do you know if i can upgrade my car with more horse Power.
I also like the sound of your exaust, can you tell me what type it is.
any other ecu tune for the elantra n is as easy as this install ? Just taking out the stock ecu and installing the new one ?
I’m new on this channel n I’m looking to get the same car is this the only stage tune they take? And is this all you’ve done to the car
Where do you recommend getting a spare ECU from? Dealer? Cost?
Are there any options to make this car stupid loud? Like the Catback full systems you could throw on a Honda or Subaru to annoy your neighbours.
Hey man where can I get one of these for my Hyundai Elantra 2019 SE?
What are those wheels? I wanna get that exact set for myself.
Have you done that octane learning on the car yet ? Apparently that will run a bit more boost from 16psi to just under 20
Will did a write up on it here - www.reddit.com/r/ElantraN/comments/wxmvyf/octane_learning_and_you_what_it_is_and_what_it/?
If something goes wrong with the power train can I swap it back to stock ecu and keep warranty?
Love the car.
There have been some issues with the ngk spark plugs on tuned cars. The tuner only uses them on stock cars now.
Just a heads up the issue is that the ngk are missing a shield and that can cause issues
Hmmmm these plugs have been on for multiple track days and hundreds of miles and they're still going strong
@@pattyboi I double checked and it looks like you are using a different version of the ngk. My bad.
@@tunedi30n All good! I appreciate it
Did you have to gap the NGK spark plugs at all or was pre-gap from the factory fine? Not sure if SXTH recommends a gap spec as well?
They do. They recommend 0.028" which is exactly what these plugs came with. I checked the gap just in case, but they were right on the money.
I am curious why updating stage1 needs to change spark plugs
@Patty Boi How do you get this ecu? I've looked at SXTH's website and can't find it
Like the wheels
What are those wheels?
Hey are you guys worried about the HPFP with the Stage 1 tune? Are you going to upgrade the fuel pump at all?
Not worried on Stage 1. Data logs are super clean, though I'll definitely be upgrading it when I'm Stage 2+ this summer.
Could I do a stage 1.5 tune with cold air intake, turbo inlet and catless Downpipe ?
HKS plus are either made or distributed by NGK though, I can’t remember which one it is
They are made by them, which makes me suspect they are LITERALLY the same plugs given that every spec is identical except for the price lol
It looks like they no longer offer this ECU tuning service? Looks like they have a piggy back unit and something else though.
NGKs are solid but you need to make sure you supplier isn't selling counterfeit ones.
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I will do this after, I recover from gas ⛽️ prices 🥵.
What about all of the security/immobilizer/key pairing stuff? Now, if we can get the manufacturers to make/sell wagon (long roof) versions of these cars (Including Golf.:R and WRX) in the US; that would be fantastic. As far as HKS junk, they do it all the time; contract out a part, have it made for them, then put their name on it, then demand a premium for it. I don't trust HKS anything as there are always better alternatives. Are you going to change the BIG-3 ground wires to or add up-sized grounding wires in the engine bay? I am amazed how potent these cars actually are and that Hyundai puts their money where their mouth is and races the platform.
I want a 2024❤
Hey when ordering the sxth ecu tune, did you order enhannced crackle none, conservative, or aggressive?
I did none, and it's about the same as stock MAYBE even a bit less.
Will this void any dealership warranties? Or do you change out to stock ECU before taking it back to the dealer for services?
Changing anything ECU related voids the warranty.
I know they're completely different, but would you compare the Veloster N more to a Civic Type R or Civic Si in terms of performance and driver feel?
Elantra**
Hey man, I'm taking your advice on not buying HKS spark plugs. I'm having a hard time locating those NGKs though. Do you have a direct link to where you purchased yours?
Any idk if the VRtune is good for my Kona N?
Can we get a link to the battery? Tried looking in Google , but I found two companies with similar names that both make batteries 🤷🏾♂️
Also, good looking out on the spark plugs was able to cancel my HKS's and get these instead 👍🏽...got em' for like $68 shipped
For sure! powertexbatteries.com/products/powertex-batteries-group-48-lithium-ion-lifepo4-automotive-battery
As a previous comment mentions, does this void warranty? Can they determine that this has been swapped even if you switch back to stock before bringing it in? I very much want to do this but I sure as hell cant afford to have my warranty void
There's no such thing as a voided warranty. You can, however, have an individual warranty claim denied because of modifications. If you want to guarantee you'll never have any warranty issues, don't modify the car.
Is there an alternative now that sixth doesn’t have the tuned ECUs available anymore that you would recommend
I think SXTH actually tunes the stock ECU now
Good stuff, it sounds even a bit different. Does it still have as much crackle and bang or can that be removed or lessed with a the tune. I hate those annoying sounds . Few pops here there is fine with me.
What's this SXTH stage 1 specs? HP? TQ?
You can choose to keep the stock crackle map, or do slight crackle boost, or do a big crackle boost. We'll get a true virtual dyno when we get their handheld device!
I think he mentioned +60whp in the video which sounds about right for 4-5 more psi. Only thing I really wouldn't like is the torque steer.
@@pattyboi did you guys manage to get an ek1 for the last batch of 2022?
@@shaneinfinity4597 we did! Will had to set a reminder and he ordered it as soon as they opened up but we'll be filming that soon!
@@pattyboi Nice! I set an alarm for mine as well. Just got the ECU and EK1 in today
How has the car run since this? Was it a direct drop in tune or did you have to do a little plug/play?
So since this video, you can now just flash tune the OE ECU from the OBDII port. But as far as the tune goes, the car has been absolutely bulletproof. No issues related to the tune whatsoever.
Hyundai is amazing
Where can I buy that battery? Is it in stores?
Did this tune eliminate the NGS button?
SUB for me just for keeping it real and saying something.
Great vid.
Owned a VN a EN and now in the KN. Cant wait to see what else you all do.
Great video. Living vicariously through you since I’m afraid to mess with my N once it arrives 😂 Did you manage to get a 0-60 for stage 1, vs stock?
That's the last stat I would benchmark. Doing high rpm clutch drops and dealing with the ensuing wheelhop is not good for the car, just to get a lackluster 0-60 time. Plus times would be wildly inconsistent based on the launch. I would do 30-90mph pulls if you are trying to compare before and after.
@@nighthawk0077 doesn’t it have launch control? I would be curious rolling acceleration as well. 5-60 or 30 to 90
@@luke2244 Try it when you get yours. From what I've heard so far half the time it doesn't engage. Still in a fairly high hp FWD turbo car I would much rather do rolling pulls, way easier on the car and more fun.
@@nighthawk0077 fair. I’m coming from an Elantra sport which has no lsd and significant wheel hop (if even slightly damp, and especially on the oem tires). So I’m used to being careful on launch. I’ll be cautious when I finally pick up my N.
@@luke2244 Yeah taking it easy you'll probably be in the 6.5-7sec range with the 6MT
i was waiting for some one go stage 1 and to some dyno to see what the elantra N real power
I’ve got an I30N DCT hatch here in Australia (not sure if the Hatch is sold in the US).
I’ve just had the car flashed tuned as there is a local tuner over here that can now flash the ECU via the OBD port.
The car makes around 240 Kilowatts ATW with a DP and intake. I think it roughly equates to around 320 wheel HP.
Totally transforms the car.
@@markpurvis896 wow thanks for reaply man good to hear that info
Does the flash/tune do away with octane learning and keeps peak boost constant at 20psi?
Yes
Makes me wanna trade in my wrx but I need AWD
To go stage 1 in the Elantra N, are new plugs needed in order for the engine to run properly?
Recommended. N75 also recommends an upgraded fuel pump.
Do all these work for the dct too? Idk anything about cars, but that’s the one I want to get.
Yes they do. There is a flash tune option via the OBDII port now however, but yes the plugs definitely work for the DCT.
Hey from you perspective having driven both, how do you compare the GR86 vs the elantra N?
Elantra N is a much better value for a daily driver. More tech, safety, performance, ease of driving. GR86 is a great car that's a lot more fun on track and promotes better learning to drive fast (no cheating eLSD doing a lot of the work)
@@pattyboi Thanks a ton for the reply! Love your vids.
I think I want to do this mod!