And Daz talking about the catcher putting his hand back into the zone is spot on. It's called framing and it's honestly an art that will be lost once we get the automatic strike zone.
if its done subtly it can work but most catchers are terrible at it they catch a ball a foot outside the strike zone then jerk their hand into the strike zone and no ump is that stupid to fall for it.
@@jckdnls9292 batters are going to hate the auto strike zone, there will be no oh on the edge called ball if even a single seam of the ball nicks the edge of the zone it will be called a strike, fans are also going to hate it for that exact reason because if pitchers can get accurate enough to nick the edge of the zone consistently batters are fucked.
@@AiyukIsHim its a skill but we don't need to protect it because it is an ""artform"". You: "We need to keep bad calls in the game b/c catchers have an art form." At least that's what it sounds like...
Came here to say this. The umpires are almost totally insulated from discipline. The only repercussion is that bad umpires won’t be selected for playoff series.
This happens waaaaay too often in baseball. What’s annoying isn’t just the missed pitches you’re seeing here, it’s the fact that usually these frustrations are the culmination of many missed strikes over the course of a game. As a hitter, you can adjust to an umpire who has a wide strike zone if they’re at least consistent with it. It’s when they’re inconsistent that it becomes impossible for a hitter to anticipate what will be a ball or strike.
this happens waaaaay less in baseball than you actually think most umps get about 93-96% calls right every night, and most the ones they get wrong are not as egregious as the ones in this video
That very first clip was from a game where the infamous Angel Hernandez was plate umpire. He is notorious as the worst umpire in baseball, and this was his worst game. He'd been blowing ball-and-strike calls all game, all game, all game, and Kyle Schwarber finally let him have it. Check the score: Philadelphia losing 1-0, bottom of the ninth. The Phillies had numerous scoring opportunities ruined because batters didn't swing at pitches far outside the strike zone and Hernandez called them strikes. This put them behind in the count, and forced them to swing at balls because they had no idea what Hernandez would call a strike. Or they struck out on on bad calls. Hernandez even sued the MLB because he's never gotten a spot in the playoffs despite decades in the majors, and he accused the league office and umpires' union of racial discrimination because he's Hispanic. Incompetent and self-pitying.
The best part about that case was that it was thrown out pretty quickly if I remember correctly. They were able to lay out plenty testimony about his poor performance lol.
@@Andres64B this is true he did apologize. But last call on a perfect game he robbed from a player is now his legacy. He’s a solid ump but why just why make that call on a last out of a perfect game???
To answer y’all’s question. If any part of the ball touches any part of the strike zone, it’s a strike. It’s a ball if the entire ball misses the strike zone
The average MLB game has about 300 pitches, and depending on the velocity, a pitch takes less than a second to reach home plate after leaving the pitcher's hand. Umpires are going to miss a few calls.
I know it must be hard for Umps sometimes to really see where the ball is, but if they are consistently making wrong calls they should go back and watch the game and see how much they messed up and be held accountable for technically changing the outcome of the game
Fans have been screaming at umpires for over a hundred years. That is one of the things that made baseball so popular with fans. Making the strike zone automated will destroy the "charm of baseball" and cater to the new generation that wants their entire lives automated and controlled by technology. The job is much harder than it looks; and high school, college, and mlb umpires have to call hundreds of pitches per game. ...I was a little league and high school umpire and I heard the insults from players and fans. But that was the beauty of baseball.
A strike is when the ball passes through the "strike zone" which in MLB is formally, "The official strike zone is the AREA over home plate from the midpoint between a batter's shoulders and the top of the uniform pants -- when the batter is in his stance and prepared to swing at a pitched ball -- and a point just below the kneecap." So that frame you see is not the strike zone but only frames the front of the strike zone, which is an AREA over the plate taking roughly the shape of a cube (not a square). As such some of these non-strikes may have actually been strikes--some obviously were not.
Daz and Aidan, that first clip where Kyle Schwarber the Phillies batter got thrown out was due to and entire game of poor calls that where blatant and some not even questionable that were flat missed. Not to mention the home plate ump for this game Angel Hernandez is generally regarded as one of of not the worst ump in baseball but is protected by of the umpires union. Jomboy media has video breaking this down between him and Kyle Schwarber because of how egregiously bad it was on Hernandez’s part. But he was in the spot light for another missed call in a game with the Tampa rays but due to instant replay the call was reversed and show to be a complete blunder on his part saved by the instant review. Again later on in the when it shows another Phillies player talking tk the ump about that pitch that was called a strike that was way off and the replay of where it was in regards to the strike zone and showed it was out of the zone was the same game as the very first clip is this that game got scrutinized heavily afterwards and that umps reports got put out and he had terrible marks for accuracy for that game.
Something you two may want to checkout is the Little League World Series, it happens in September. They are teams from all over the world. Ages 10 to 13. Alot of fun to watch and great games. Even if you do not share it on here.
Most umpires miss a few calls every game but there are definitely some that miss way too many calls to frequently. Now they rate the efficiency of the ball and strikes calls but it's mostly just for record keeping. But they do use rating to decide which umpires work the post-season games. The umpires have such a strong union that no gets fired for poor performance. There are a few long time umpires that everyone knows are terrible all-around you just have to power through them. Since the introduction of Instant Replay reviews of plays in the field many of their bad calls are corrected. They do have a system in the minor leagues for challenging bad calls that looks to work pretty well but it may be awhile before they implement it in the Major Leagues.
I’m sure a lot of this is already but: The way the catchers move their hands when they catch the ball is called framing, it can create an illusion for the ump based on the angle they see the catch. The umps don’t get fired because they have an unreasonably strong union contract. There’s a man named Angel Hernandez that is notorious for blowing calls. It does not need to be directly in or out of the box, the strike zone is technically a floating cube, as long as the ball is the appropriate height, any piece of the ball can go over any piece of the plate. Some umpires also have their own strike zone. For example, the tallest mlb umpire has a tendency to call a higher strike zone, but does that consistently, so teams play around it. The reason Schwarber was so mad in that first clip was because the ump (Angel Hernandez) had been inconsistent, calling balls and strikes on pitches in essentially the same location.
Every ump has his own zone. Which doesn't have to match tv box for players to be happy. The ump just has to be consistent in how he calls the zone. Some give inside. Some give outside. Some give high zone. Some have a low zone. But When you're not consistent then you're just Angel Hernandez.
Y’all need to watch an Angel Hernandez compilation. He was all throughout this one. He’s probably the worst ump in the league in terms of calling balls and strikes.
But you have to keep in mind how many hundreds of thousands (+/- 300,000) of pitches every year. And while the umpire may have technically been wrong on these pitches, he may have been making those same calls through the entire game. Different umpires have different strike zones. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. And it's not like MLB umpires are any different than umpires for soccer. Maybe somebody gets a red card and that changes the whole flow of the game. Maybe somebody gets a free kick and then the winning the game. That's called part of the game. That's sports.
Umpires get scored and graded each game. The most accurate umpires by stats are the ones that get to ump behind the plate during the post season and World Series. Nothing really happens to the bad umps except getting overlooked for those big games. I recommend the Close Call Sports RUclips channel. She is excellent at breaking down rules and umpire issues.
I'm sure there are many videos about him for y'all to react to, but Angel Hernandez is known as being one of the worst umpires in terms of calling a ball/strike with any consistency. Players and fans have universally hated him for the ~20 years he's been an ump. The only reason the MLB can't fire him is because the umpires' union is strong enough with a potential backlash that its easier for them to keep him on. For me, the worst thing about his calls is that none of them are consistent so players have no clue what to expect from him. If an ump is having a wider strike zone than what the rule technically is, most players are fine with that so long as they keep it consistent and call it the same way for both teams. Hernandez like 10 years ago tried suing the MLB for discrimination by not letting him umpire the World Series; the leagues defense was pretty easy since all they had to say was you are a bad umpire and that's why you didn't get the job.
Angel Hernandez is the worst ump in mlb. The Baseball union protects him. You should check out a video on how he sued the league for not getting promoted after this disgusting career
The amount of times I've been struck out by pitches that were at eye level. I always had something to say to the ump. Even when pitching I've seen horrible calls that went my way.
4:00 - umpires getting fired isn't really a thing in the MLB. Check out the worst of Angel Hernandez. Also the worst umpires in general, not just calling balls and strikes.
I would also say that having an umpire to complain about (or complement) is part of the fun of playing and watching baseball--arguments with umps, catcalls from the fans and players at umps--it's all entertainment.
*Note: Back in the 80's & 90's, it was tolerated if the umpire had his own custom strike zone. As long as it was consistent, both teams didn't complain. You knew which umpire had a wide or low zone. Just ask all the hall of fame pitchers from the Braves.
Part of what makes the sport so interesting is the human element aspect, especially with the umpires. Some umpires may have longer vertical strikezones, and some may have wider horizontal strike zones. The batters have these statistics about how umpires call their strikes, but of course it's still super annoying as a batter when you know for a fact a pitch wasn't a strike and it gets called as such. You combine that with how the Catchers frame pitches, and some of the angles a Pitcher can throw the ball which give it the illusion that it was thrown in the strike zone, and you can see why hitting a baseball rates as one of the toughest things you can do in sports. This is why perfect umpire games are a thing in Baseball, where the umpire doesn't miss a single call all night. It's a tough job honestly.
It is such a part of the game. This was all bad calls. 90% or more are spot on. Also there is a thing called a make up call. If he messes up he might make it right later to either pitcher or batter with a call
The real consequence of being a bad umpire is exclusion from post-season. Angel Hernandez sued MLB about it claiming racism. MLB argued he was simply a poor umpire and brought receipts. He was on like half the clips you just watched in this video. Still has a job tho. 🤷🏻♂️
Umps aren’t perfect but if u look at the numbers. Most are still around 95% for correct calls. Also umps generally will “expand” the strike zone usually in one way (inside, outside, low, high) a little bit (will go for both teams)
An umpire for the Reds and Brewers game a few days ago missed 13 total calls. It’s hard to be perfect. There will always be borderline calls that can go one way or another. There’s also just some terrible umpires who are famous for being bad and fans don’t want those guys calling their teams games. They love to make the game about themselves and can’t argue balls and strikes with them
I believe there are videos on MLB's worst ump Angel Hernandez that could be good for reactions on this channel. Hernandez once tried to sue MLB for racial discrimination because he wasn't getting assigned to ump post season games or important games. If you do get assigned those games, you do earn more money. MLB's response to this lawsuit was to bring in statistics showing just how bad Angel was at umping games and explained that was the reason he wasn't getting assigned to important games. I don't even think the case made it to court before it was dismissed.
The umpires union protects all of the umps. I imagine if you are crappy enough, like Angel Hernandez, somebody might talk to you once in a while, but umpires are basically left to interpret the strike zone the way they want. I think umpires have the most difficulty with pitches at the bottom of the strike zone.
On the last out, a Detroit Tigers picture was denied a perfect game because the runner was called safe at first base on an infield ground ball. The replay showed he was out by a mile. It should've ended the game too. When the umpire saw the video replay AFTER the game, he apologized. There's a video on RUclips.
For me personally it’s a part of the game. Yes it’s frustrating when the ump is obviously wrong (like in this video) but at the same time maybe it’s me being traditional, it’s all about strategy. If you know the ump tends to call certain pitches just outside as strikes then you have to adjust your game plan. But I do think that when they make insanely bad calls that they need to be held accountable for it.
@@Sprayber ultimately I think it comes down to other umpires holding the inconsistent ones accountable. The good ones out number the bad ones in the union and I think they could make the union hold the bad ones accountable. It’s a matter of doing the right thing in my opinion. Get the union to make some ground rules, x amount of bad calls in a certain period (if that’s a month or a season or whatever) then you’re given a warning. Make it a 3 strike rule. I’m not sure how the umpire union works but I’d imagine it goes to a vote and once again, the good outnumber the bad. (I may be completely ignorant about how the union works for them FYI)
The ump calls balls and strikes as he sees the ball as it crosses the plate not where the catcher receives it. The catcher is 3 to 4 feet behind the plate and the ball may move in or out of the zone by the time it reaches the catcher. The umps do a great job
There was another clip at the end of the video, but yeah you get the gist. :P Also, the umpires have a union where no one can get fired, no one can be held accountable, and the MLB cannot use robot umps. Also, the ump who waives his arm in the air for the "strikeouts" (if you want to call them that) is named Angel Hernandez and everyone agrees he's the worst of them all, which is hard to do.
The thing baseball players want umpires to be is consistent. If they’re calling a pitch a strike that a bit high or a bit outside, as long as they call the pitches the same the entire game they don’t usually get upset. It’s when they call something a strike that’s been a ball for 8 innings
When you see the pitcher expecting a ball call and you call a strikeout ... there's something going on with your eyesight lol. So many of these hurt me. But the non-calls on the obvious strikes were hard to watch. Aiden: "This is actually quite annoying to me" lmao now you realize why so many batters chirp the home plate ump. Ugh so frustrating for everyone involved besides the opposing team.
I swear to God that sometimes umpires will make a bad call simply to spite a batter. In some of these you can see the batter and ump arguing in the preceding pitch and I don't think it's a coincidence that they make a headass call on the next.
Agree w/Aidan....this is an area of MLB that has needed cleaning up for far too long. Imagine if a co-worker caught you blatantly screwing up at your job but you could immediately send them home for the day if they called you out?
There is technically no set strike zone. It’s really just from just above their waist to their knees so it’s different for every hitter. The problem is that some umpires aren’t consistent. Every umpire has a different zone as well
The box you see on TV the umpires do not get. The box is set left to right by the plate itself, so the box is very accurate that way. But the box is set up top to bottom by knees and arm pits, not as very accurate. The umpire and the box mechanics do not have to agree. Every umpire is graded using the box mechanics by Major League Baseball. The top 40 umpires have an accuracy rating approaching 95%. There are 19 4 man crews of umpires in Major League Baseball, a total of 76 umpires. I doubt the worse umpires have less than 90% accuracy. Additionally, MLB gives the umpires a 2 inch variation from the box mechanics for individual umpire accuracy rankings. The box mechanics does not recognize a 2 inch margin of error on every pitch. The box mechanics indicate a solid circle if it is a strike, and a hollow circle if it is a ball. A lot of times players argue over correctly called pitches. Check out the last pitch, it was correctly called a strike by the box mechanics computer, there was a solid dot. Yet the broadcasters “homers” ignore the video they are watching. These RUclips videos are fans, or should I say critics, crying over spilt beer. They cherry pick the wrong calls and ignore all those called correctly. A typical 9 inning game has 300 pitches thrown by both teams. 5% of 300 pitches is 15. 285 pitches are called accurately out of 300. Not a bad statistic for human beings. You guys are wrong to expect 100% accuracy.
Daz the dugout nowadays can tell they are not strikes because they have screens and replays in the dugout. Although they can tell without the screens pretty much. Also take into account that umpires have to make a judgement call on a ball travelling at 95+ miles an hour if not 100 miles per hour, believe me it's so easy to make a mistake. Also forget where the catcher gloves the pitch, the question is did the ball cross that square you see on TV. But yes all those pitches were bad calls.
I honestly don't know how MLB plans on handling this. Technically, the strike sone changes with each batter. As kids, we are taught that the strike zone, in general goes from the letters on the front of one's uniform, to about mid-thigh. The reality is that strike zone is lower than that, but the point is that it is supposed to vary from hitter to hitter.
just need to have the umps glace at the giant screens every stadium has and make the right call, be at the plate to handle everything but making the ball/strike calls. Box on the screen to change color to Red/Green to make it simple to read.
To reemphasize something that has been said, each umpire may have peculiarities is what they consider a strike or a ball (always calling a borderline high pitch a strike, for example). All anyone asks is that they are consistent. It a pitch was a strike on the first pitch of the game, that same location should be a strike for both teams, all game long. If they do that, even if it’s not a textbook strike, no one will complain.
What this individual views are not showing is the view from over the plate, which often times shows the ball is on the black, the very edge of home plate, which if it is the correct height would be a strike. You can't really see that looking into home plate from the outfield camera angle
Daz and Aiden I'm begging you guys to react to some of the leauges cup games. Two matches that come to mind that we're absolutely class; Nashville vs Toulaca or cruz azul vs inter Miami
While I hate the egregious calls (like many in the this compilation) I will say two things that I do appreciate about the human element of calling balls and strikes. I appreciate that the strike zone is the strike zone, but each umpire has “their” strike zone. One may give you a little more off the plate than others. One might squeeze the corners, but he’s known to call them lower. It’s a game within the game that the batter and pitcher have to adapt to. And then at the professional level, that’s something they can even scout. Of course awful calls are bad. But the slight variations between ump to ump is kind of fun and interesting. And 2nd, the framing of pitches. It’s an art and skill for catches and I feel that everyone appreciates a good frame job when they see one.
Every year the players and managers fill out assessments of umpires. The ones who get the lowest ratings won’t get to umpire as many postseason games which brings them more income.
The umpires union is so strong its really hard to fire them. However, Angel Hernandez is probably the worst umpire ever, and has not called a game yet this season. So they kind of de facto fired him.
ump is behind the catcher, its a good view for over the plate, and high pitches, but thoes sinkers are hard to judge in that split second. thats why alot of thoes clips were low and inside/outside, its catchers job to make up the difference
Many people want Robo umpires but I like having the human element in baseball, in my opinion bad calls are part of the game and it leads to arguments with the managers and excitement etc.
It's probably in the comments but that box isn't official, it is just a creation by the TV networks. If any part of the ball crosses the strike zone it is supposedly a strike. The entire ball does not need to be over the plate.
Some umps hold grudges of they think that a player was trying to show them up and then make bad calls as a payback. Half the umps have been in the majors too long and should get fired but their union is very strong
One of the worst umpire in MLB is Angel Hernandez. You need to watch jomboy videos about just how bad he is. It will have you rolling lol.HE IS THAT BAD. He is in this video several times.
I mentioned a Jomboy video with Angel Hernandez for awful calls. But there is also a Jomboy video where an umpire calls a perfect game. It's a great break down. You should give that a watch as well.
And Daz talking about the catcher putting his hand back into the zone is spot on. It's called framing and it's honestly an art that will be lost once we get the automatic strike zone.
if its done subtly it can work but most catchers are terrible at it they catch a ball a foot outside the strike zone then jerk their hand into the strike zone and no ump is that stupid to fall for it.
Artform? Wtf .. I welcome the automatic strike zone.. I wanna see real strikes
@@jckdnls9292 if you dont understand how that is a catchers skill idk man has been forever
@@jckdnls9292 batters are going to hate the auto strike zone, there will be no oh on the edge called ball if even a single seam of the ball nicks the edge of the zone it will be called a strike, fans are also going to hate it for that exact reason because if pitchers can get accurate enough to nick the edge of the zone consistently batters are fucked.
@@AiyukIsHim its a skill but we don't need to protect it because it is an ""artform"". You: "We need to keep bad calls in the game b/c catchers have an art form." At least that's what it sounds like...
The MLB umpires are part of a union which makes it incredibly difficult for them to be terminated even when they are constantly making bad calls.
And the head of that union is an incredible prick. He gave a speech at my highschool years ago and his speech was not well received.
Came here to say this. The umpires are almost totally insulated from discipline. The only repercussion is that bad umpires won’t be selected for playoff series.
And most unions are corrupt
I'm really impressed with how much Aidan has learned about baseball already!
This happens waaaaay too often in baseball. What’s annoying isn’t just the missed pitches you’re seeing here, it’s the fact that usually these frustrations are the culmination of many missed strikes over the course of a game. As a hitter, you can adjust to an umpire who has a wide strike zone if they’re at least consistent with it. It’s when they’re inconsistent that it becomes impossible for a hitter to anticipate what will be a ball or strike.
this happens waaaaay less in baseball than you actually think most umps get about 93-96% calls right every night, and most the ones they get wrong are not as egregious as the ones in this video
That very first clip was from a game where the infamous Angel Hernandez was plate umpire. He is notorious as the worst umpire in baseball, and this was his worst game. He'd been blowing ball-and-strike calls all game, all game, all game, and Kyle Schwarber finally let him have it. Check the score: Philadelphia losing 1-0, bottom of the ninth. The Phillies had numerous scoring opportunities ruined because batters didn't swing at pitches far outside the strike zone and Hernandez called them strikes. This put them behind in the count, and forced them to swing at balls because they had no idea what Hernandez would call a strike. Or they struck out on on bad calls. Hernandez even sued the MLB because he's never gotten a spot in the playoffs despite decades in the majors, and he accused the league office and umpires' union of racial discrimination because he's Hispanic. Incompetent and self-pitying.
The best part about that case was that it was thrown out pretty quickly if I remember correctly. They were able to lay out plenty testimony about his poor performance lol.
Speaking of 1 bad call ruining a career, Armando Galarraga was 1 out away from a perfect game and the 1st base umpire completely blew the call
To be fair he’s more famous because of it. Good story at least
Jim Joyce was that umpire. Usually solid but shit the bed on that call. It wasn’t even close and why not just give the call for the perfect game
It didn't ruin his career, and the umpire knows that maybe made a bad call and he was extremely upset about it and apologized.
@@Andres64B this is true he did apologize. But last call on a perfect game he robbed from a player is now his legacy. He’s a solid ump but why just why make that call on a last out of a perfect game???
I haven’t even started the video, but I expect to see umpire *Ángel Hernández* a few times.
To answer y’all’s question. If any part of the ball touches any part of the strike zone, it’s a strike. It’s a ball if the entire ball misses the strike zone
What you're referring to with the catcher bringing the ball into the strike zone is called "framing" the pitch.
One of the quickest ways to get tossed out is to argue balls and strikes
The average MLB game has about 300 pitches, and depending on the velocity, a pitch takes less than a second to reach home plate after leaving the pitcher's hand.
Umpires are going to miss a few calls.
I know it must be hard for Umps sometimes to really see where the ball is, but if they are consistently making wrong calls they should go back and watch the game and see how much they messed up and be held accountable for technically changing the outcome of the game
Fans have been screaming at umpires for over a hundred years. That is one of the things that made baseball so popular with fans. Making the strike zone automated will destroy the "charm of baseball" and cater to the new generation that wants their entire lives automated and controlled by technology. The job is much harder than it looks; and high school, college, and mlb umpires have to call hundreds of pitches per game.
...I was a little league and high school umpire and I heard the insults from players and fans. But that was the beauty of baseball.
A strike is when the ball passes through the "strike zone" which in MLB is formally, "The official strike zone is the AREA over home plate from the midpoint between a batter's shoulders and the top of the uniform pants -- when the batter is in his stance and prepared to swing at a pitched ball -- and a point just below the kneecap." So that frame you see is not the strike zone but only frames the front of the strike zone, which is an AREA over the plate taking roughly the shape of a cube (not a square). As such some of these non-strikes may have actually been strikes--some obviously were not.
Aiden we are all there with you, so incredibly frustrating. The egos of some umpires is crazy cuz they are protected by their union
Daz and Aidan, that first clip where Kyle Schwarber the Phillies batter got thrown out was due to and entire game of poor calls that where blatant and some not even questionable that were flat missed. Not to mention the home plate ump for this game Angel Hernandez is generally regarded as one of of not the worst ump in baseball but is protected by of the umpires union. Jomboy media has video breaking this down between him and Kyle Schwarber because of how egregiously bad it was on Hernandez’s part. But he was in the spot light for another missed call in a game with the Tampa rays but due to instant replay the call was reversed and show to be a complete blunder on his part saved by the instant review. Again later on in the when it shows another Phillies player talking tk the ump about that pitch that was called a strike that was way off and the replay of where it was in regards to the strike zone and showed it was out of the zone was the same game as the very first clip is this that game got scrutinized heavily afterwards and that umps reports got put out and he had terrible marks for accuracy for that game.
Angel Hernandez can be seen a number of times in this video. He's the worst umpire, always missing calls and quick to throw players out of the game.
Something you two may want to checkout is the Little League World Series, it happens in September. They are teams from all over the world. Ages 10 to 13. Alot of fun to watch and great games. Even if you do not share it on here.
Umpires never get fired. They have a strong union.
Most umpires miss a few calls every game but there are definitely some that miss way too many calls to frequently. Now they rate the efficiency of the ball and strikes calls but it's mostly just for record keeping. But they do use rating to decide which umpires work the post-season games. The umpires have such a strong union that no gets fired for poor performance. There are a few long time umpires that everyone knows are terrible all-around you just have to power through them. Since the introduction of Instant Replay reviews of plays in the field many of their bad calls are corrected.
They do have a system in the minor leagues for challenging bad calls that looks to work pretty well but it may be awhile before they implement it in the Major Leagues.
I’m sure a lot of this is already but:
The way the catchers move their hands when they catch the ball is called framing, it can create an illusion for the ump based on the angle they see the catch.
The umps don’t get fired because they have an unreasonably strong union contract. There’s a man named Angel Hernandez that is notorious for blowing calls.
It does not need to be directly in or out of the box, the strike zone is technically a floating cube, as long as the ball is the appropriate height, any piece of the ball can go over any piece of the plate. Some umpires also have their own strike zone. For example, the tallest mlb umpire has a tendency to call a higher strike zone, but does that consistently, so teams play around it. The reason Schwarber was so mad in that first clip was because the ump (Angel Hernandez) had been inconsistent, calling balls and strikes on pitches in essentially the same location.
Every ump has his own zone. Which doesn't have to match tv box for players to be happy. The ump just has to be consistent in how he calls the zone. Some give inside. Some give outside. Some give high zone. Some have a low zone. But When you're not consistent then you're just Angel Hernandez.
Y’all need to watch an Angel Hernandez compilation. He was all throughout this one. He’s probably the worst ump in the league in terms of calling balls and strikes.
If any part of that ball is touching the strike Zone it's a strike just like in tennis if any part of the ball is touching the line it's in
But you have to keep in mind how many hundreds of thousands (+/- 300,000) of pitches every year. And while the umpire may have technically been wrong on these pitches, he may have been making those same calls through the entire game. Different umpires have different strike zones. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. And it's not like MLB umpires are any different than umpires for soccer. Maybe somebody gets a red card and that changes the whole flow of the game. Maybe somebody gets a free kick and then the winning the game. That's called part of the game. That's sports.
Umpires get scored and graded each game. The most accurate umpires by stats are the ones that get to ump behind the plate during the post season and World Series. Nothing really happens to the bad umps except getting overlooked for those big games. I recommend the Close Call Sports RUclips channel. She is excellent at breaking down rules and umpire issues.
I'm sure there are many videos about him for y'all to react to, but Angel Hernandez is known as being one of the worst umpires in terms of calling a ball/strike with any consistency. Players and fans have universally hated him for the ~20 years he's been an ump. The only reason the MLB can't fire him is because the umpires' union is strong enough with a potential backlash that its easier for them to keep him on. For me, the worst thing about his calls is that none of them are consistent so players have no clue what to expect from him. If an ump is having a wider strike zone than what the rule technically is, most players are fine with that so long as they keep it consistent and call it the same way for both teams. Hernandez like 10 years ago tried suing the MLB for discrimination by not letting him umpire the World Series; the leagues defense was pretty easy since all they had to say was you are a bad umpire and that's why you didn't get the job.
gotta watch Jomboys breakdown on Angel Hernandez in the Brewers-Phils game to see how bad he really is
Angel Hernandez is the worst ump in mlb. The Baseball union protects him. You should check out a video on how he sued the league for not getting promoted after this disgusting career
The amount of times I've been struck out by pitches that were at eye level. I always had something to say to the ump. Even when pitching I've seen horrible calls that went my way.
4:00 - umpires getting fired isn't really a thing in the MLB.
Check out the worst of Angel Hernandez. Also the worst umpires in general, not just calling balls and strikes.
I would also say that having an umpire to complain about (or complement) is part of the fun of playing and watching baseball--arguments with umps, catcalls from the fans and players at umps--it's all entertainment.
*Note: Back in the 80's & 90's, it was tolerated if the umpire had his own custom strike zone. As long as it was consistent, both teams didn't complain. You knew which umpire had a wide or low zone. Just ask all the hall of fame pitchers from the Braves.
Part of what makes the sport so interesting is the human element aspect, especially with the umpires. Some umpires may have longer vertical strikezones, and some may have wider horizontal strike zones. The batters have these statistics about how umpires call their strikes, but of course it's still super annoying as a batter when you know for a fact a pitch wasn't a strike and it gets called as such. You combine that with how the Catchers frame pitches, and some of the angles a Pitcher can throw the ball which give it the illusion that it was thrown in the strike zone, and you can see why hitting a baseball rates as one of the toughest things you can do in sports. This is why perfect umpire games are a thing in Baseball, where the umpire doesn't miss a single call all night. It's a tough job honestly.
It is such a part of the game. This was all bad calls. 90% or more are spot on. Also there is a thing called a make up call. If he messes up he might make it right later to either pitcher or batter with a call
Well said
The real consequence of being a bad umpire is exclusion from post-season. Angel Hernandez sued MLB about it claiming racism. MLB argued he was simply a poor umpire and brought receipts. He was on like half the clips you just watched in this video. Still has a job tho. 🤷🏻♂️
Umps aren’t perfect but if u look at the numbers. Most are still around 95% for correct calls. Also umps generally will “expand” the strike zone usually in one way (inside, outside, low, high) a little bit (will go for both teams)
6:19 if Aiden’s logic, was actually used there would be no meteorologist in the world 😂😂
An umpire for the Reds and Brewers game a few days ago missed 13 total calls.
It’s hard to be perfect. There will always be borderline calls that can go one way or another. There’s also just some terrible umpires who are famous for being bad and fans don’t want those guys calling their teams games. They love to make the game about themselves and can’t argue balls and strikes with them
At 8:30 the catcher did what they call "framing"; trying to make a ball look like a strike.
Ángel Hernández is a famously bad umpire in the MLB.
JomboY did a breakdown of Hader and Kyle on the first clip. It’s HILARIOUS.
"That umpire" is Angel Hernandez. Every time he gets out of the shower in the morning, he calls his balls strikes.
I haven't watch this video yet but I am guessing there will be a lot of Angel Hernandez
Lol
I believe there are videos on MLB's worst ump Angel Hernandez that could be good for reactions on this channel. Hernandez once tried to sue MLB for racial discrimination because he wasn't getting assigned to ump post season games or important games. If you do get assigned those games, you do earn more money. MLB's response to this lawsuit was to bring in statistics showing just how bad Angel was at umping games and explained that was the reason he wasn't getting assigned to important games. I don't even think the case made it to court before it was dismissed.
The umpires union protects all of the umps. I imagine if you are crappy enough, like Angel Hernandez, somebody might talk to you once in a while, but umpires are basically left to interpret the strike zone the way they want. I think umpires have the most difficulty with pitches at the bottom of the strike zone.
On the last out, a Detroit Tigers picture was denied a perfect game because the runner was called safe at first base on an infield ground ball. The replay showed he was out by a mile. It should've ended the game too. When the umpire saw the video replay AFTER the game, he apologized. There's a video on RUclips.
Nick Chubb (cleveland browns) best runs please and thank you! Love the channel fellas!
For me personally it’s a part of the game. Yes it’s frustrating when the ump is obviously wrong (like in this video) but at the same time maybe it’s me being traditional, it’s all about strategy. If you know the ump tends to call certain pitches just outside as strikes then you have to adjust your game plan. But I do think that when they make insanely bad calls that they need to be held accountable for it.
That works if the umpire is consistent but some are just plain terrible at call balls and strikes and it's nearly impossible to get rid of them.
@@Sprayber ultimately I think it comes down to other umpires holding the inconsistent ones accountable. The good ones out number the bad ones in the union and I think they could make the union hold the bad ones accountable. It’s a matter of doing the right thing in my opinion. Get the union to make some ground rules, x amount of bad calls in a certain period (if that’s a month or a season or whatever) then you’re given a warning. Make it a 3 strike rule. I’m not sure how the umpire union works but I’d imagine it goes to a vote and once again, the good outnumber the bad. (I may be completely ignorant about how the union works for them FYI)
The ump calls balls and strikes as he sees the ball as it crosses the plate not where the catcher receives it. The catcher is 3 to 4 feet behind the plate and the ball may move in or out of the zone by the time it reaches the catcher. The umps do a great job
The 2 worst unions in the US: The MLB Umpires Union and the Teachers Union!! (not necessarily in that order)
There was another clip at the end of the video, but yeah you get the gist. :P
Also, the umpires have a union where no one can get fired, no one can be held accountable, and the MLB cannot use robot umps. Also, the ump who waives his arm in the air for the "strikeouts" (if you want to call them that) is named Angel Hernandez and everyone agrees he's the worst of them all, which is hard to do.
The thing baseball players want umpires to be is consistent. If they’re calling a pitch a strike that a bit high or a bit outside, as long as they call the pitches the same the entire game they don’t usually get upset. It’s when they call something a strike that’s been a ball for 8 innings
When you see the pitcher expecting a ball call and you call a strikeout ... there's something going on with your eyesight lol. So many of these hurt me. But the non-calls on the obvious strikes were hard to watch.
Aiden: "This is actually quite annoying to me" lmao now you realize why so many batters chirp the home plate ump. Ugh so frustrating for everyone involved besides the opposing team.
You have to understand there are so many plays per game and so many games per season that a few bad calls really doesnt matter.
Part of baseball is the batter adjusting to the umpires strike zone. I hope this does not change.
I swear to God that sometimes umpires will make a bad call simply to spite a batter. In some of these you can see the batter and ump arguing in the preceding pitch and I don't think it's a coincidence that they make a headass call on the next.
Lol Aden looked genuinely pissed @12:05
Agree w/Aidan....this is an area of MLB that has needed cleaning up for far too long. Imagine if a co-worker caught you blatantly screwing up at your job but you could immediately send them home for the day if they called you out?
There is technically no set strike zone. It’s really just from just above their waist to their knees so it’s different for every hitter. The problem is that some umpires aren’t consistent. Every umpire has a different zone as well
I love the young mans enthusiasm, unfortunately it will be jaded as he goes thru life and sees the real world. :)
That scene that was 2 pitches later another back call, I’d bet that player was riding the umpire from the dugout . His strike zone therefore doubled…
biggest joke in the MLB is having 200 umps with 200 different strike zones. Zero accountability. Best job in the world lol.
The box you see on TV the umpires do not get. The box is set left to right by the plate itself, so the box is very accurate that way. But the box is set up top to bottom by knees and arm pits, not as very accurate. The umpire and the box mechanics do not have to agree.
Every umpire is graded using the box mechanics by Major League Baseball. The top 40 umpires have an accuracy rating approaching 95%. There are 19 4 man crews of umpires in Major League Baseball, a total of 76 umpires. I doubt the worse umpires have less than 90% accuracy.
Additionally, MLB gives the umpires a 2 inch variation from the box mechanics for individual umpire accuracy rankings. The box mechanics does not recognize a 2 inch margin of error on every pitch. The box mechanics indicate a solid circle if it is a strike, and a hollow circle if it is a ball. A lot of times players argue over correctly called pitches. Check out the last pitch, it was correctly called a strike by the box mechanics computer, there was a solid dot. Yet the broadcasters “homers” ignore the video they are watching.
These RUclips videos are fans, or should I say critics, crying over spilt beer. They cherry pick the wrong calls and ignore all those called correctly. A typical 9 inning game has 300 pitches thrown by both teams. 5% of 300 pitches is 15. 285 pitches are called accurately out of 300. Not a bad statistic for human beings. You guys are wrong to expect 100% accuracy.
Good point 👍🏻
Daz the dugout nowadays can tell they are not strikes because they have screens and replays in the dugout. Although they can tell without the screens pretty much. Also take into account that umpires have to make a judgement call on a ball travelling at 95+ miles an hour if not 100 miles per hour, believe me it's so easy to make a mistake. Also forget where the catcher gloves the pitch, the question is did the ball cross that square you see on TV. But yes all those pitches were bad calls.
Umpire Ángel Hernández Jomboy reaction is a must watch
I honestly don't know how MLB plans on handling this. Technically, the strike sone changes with each batter. As kids, we are taught that the strike zone, in general goes from the letters on the front of one's uniform, to about mid-thigh. The reality is that strike zone is lower than that, but the point is that it is supposed to vary from hitter to hitter.
The MLB is actually experimenting with "robotic"/"automated" umpires
just need to have the umps glace at the giant screens every stadium has and make the right call, be at the plate to handle everything but making the ball/strike calls. Box on the screen to change color to Red/Green to make it simple to read.
I have seen several games in the very last inning with umps making bad calls. I have to think the umpire is just tired and wants to go home.
To reemphasize something that has been said, each umpire may have peculiarities is what they consider a strike or a ball (always calling a borderline high pitch a strike, for example).
All anyone asks is that they are consistent. It a pitch was a strike on the first pitch of the game, that same location should be a strike for both teams, all game long. If they do that, even if it’s not a textbook strike, no one will complain.
What this individual views are not showing is the view from over the plate, which often times shows the ball is on the black, the very edge of home plate, which if it is the correct height would be a strike. You can't really see that looking into home plate from the outfield camera angle
Angel Hernandez highlight reel.
unwritten rule .... you cant show up the umpire by heading to first before the call is made .
2 bad calls and aidans like you're fkn fired!!! i like it
Daz and Aiden I'm begging you guys to react to some of the leauges cup games. Two matches that come to mind that we're absolutely class; Nashville vs Toulaca or cruz azul vs inter Miami
Angel Hernandez is the worst ump ever but they have a strong union. However he''s never picked for the post season.
part of the game is the umpires imperfection
That is what made baseball so popular and great. It is part of the fun.
While I hate the egregious calls (like many in the this compilation) I will say two things that I do appreciate about the human element of calling balls and strikes.
I appreciate that the strike zone is the strike zone, but each umpire has “their” strike zone. One may give you a little more off the plate than others. One might squeeze the corners, but he’s known to call them lower. It’s a game within the game that the batter and pitcher have to adapt to. And then at the professional level, that’s something they can even scout. Of course awful calls are bad. But the slight variations between ump to ump is kind of fun and interesting.
And 2nd, the framing of pitches. It’s an art and skill for catches and I feel that everyone appreciates a good frame job when they see one.
You would say “you better call that for our pitcher!”
Angel hernandez who was in a couple of these clips is by far the worst ump ever
Every year the players and managers fill out assessments of umpires. The ones who get the lowest ratings won’t get to umpire as many postseason games which brings them more income.
Angel Hernandez is famously horrible. Consistently voted as the worst umpire by the players
The umpires union is so strong its really hard to fire them. However, Angel Hernandez is probably the worst umpire ever, and has not called a game yet this season. So they kind of de facto fired him.
ump is behind the catcher, its a good view for over the plate, and high pitches, but thoes sinkers are hard to judge in that split second. thats why alot of thoes clips were low and inside/outside, its catchers job to make up the difference
The Washington Nationals is in Bowie Maryland 3 minutes away from my warehouse
Jomboy does a great breakdown of that first pitch. should check it out sometime.
This is what we deal with in baseball. Its not just the MLB either happens in little league too
Also, the camera angle is not right behind the pitcher, but off to the right, so it can be deceiving for that reason, too.
Office Blok Daz reacting to Angel Hernandez. 😂😂😂
Also any part of the ball that “paints” the edge of home plate is a strike
Umps have a hard job, I definitely couldn't do it. But many of them do need to be replaced
Many people want Robo umpires but I like having the human element in baseball, in my opinion bad calls are part of the game and it leads to arguments with the managers and excitement etc.
That's the beauty of baseball for 100+ years. Please do not make it automated!
Anything close with umps like these you better swing. These guys are professionals hitters they know
People who support the opposite teams have something in common the hatred of the umpire and for his mob style
It's probably in the comments but that box isn't official, it is just a creation by the TV networks. If any part of the ball crosses the strike zone it is supposedly a strike. The entire ball does not need to be over the plate.
Some umps hold grudges of they think that a player was trying to show them up and then make bad calls as a payback. Half the umps have been in the majors too long and should get fired but their union is very strong
So, basically an Angel Hernandez highlight reel.
One of the worst umpire in MLB is Angel Hernandez. You need to watch jomboy videos about just how bad he is. It will have you rolling lol.HE IS THAT BAD.
He is in this video several times.
I mentioned a Jomboy video with Angel Hernandez for awful calls. But there is also a Jomboy video where an umpire calls a perfect game. It's a great break down. You should give that a watch as well.
The first batter was thrown out because he threw his bat not because he question the call.