Nice Video tyr also fought Garm and Garm ate metaphysical concept of a season thats crazy even fighting Garm being this powerful even a crazy feat for Kratos
I like how the fact that Ares and Tyr are both the God Of Wars but they have different perspective and roles on how they should use war. Ares destroyed Kratos' life meanwhile Tyr regained it.
It makes sense even in their respective mythological roles. Ares was always more of a man child who lived under the shadow of his sister Athena and thus was pretty cruel, impulsive and even hated by most Greeks. Tyr on the other hand was always viewed as a more Nobel and Just God of war that was as good with his spear as he was with his words.
@@Antonio-vn5xc who knows kratos could be stronger mate, but it is quite indeed a feat. Tyr knows many different moves and abilities from different lands that kratos isn't even familiar to it's an amazing feat in fact mate!
@@Antonio-vn5xc Yeah but Kratos describes him as one of his "most formidable opponents" & Sigrun says that there's "no shame in falling to Týr, he is WITHOUT PEERS... yet"!
Tyr spear throw is same function as drupnir spear. Tyr big sword can flame. Tyr double kophesh can slash fast and many magic i forgot. Tyr katana can shoot out ice power. Tyr can blind his enemies. With all that heimdall will get overwhelmed
Tyr is OP as hell. He doesn’t even break a sweat when he catches Kratos’s fist. He’s likely the only one who could have ever gotten Kratos to even consider trying to forgive his past mistakes. As charming and charismatic and wise as mimir is.. he couldn’t give Kratos what he needed. They totally redeemed tyr and I couldn’t be happier. My only complaint was that we never got to see vidar.
@@karolczapko4790 Too true. The only god brave enough to feed Fenrir and play with the pup, and had the courage to sacrifice his arm when challenged to break his new bonds.
He wasn't the "god of" anything. The Norse didn't really do that. He was commonly associated with justice and keeping your word. And if he spoke well of you that was considered a good thing. So those wouldn't be bad titles. You're just kind of applying a Greek system to the Norse.
Tyr says he's not holding back but everytime Kratos beats him, Tyr blocks his punch. That is a good indicator he isn't going full out. I was under the assumption Kratos was pulling punches as well since he didn't see Tyr as an enemy.
Then again tyr pushes him close to that edge of fighting when you see the back draft of kratos punch the same way he did thor but he knows when to stop himself
He's not holding back when it comes to purpose. but you literally see him power up 4 times while using different powers that he didnt use prior. He is playing the part of a teacher after all. Its hard to say the extent of Kratos holding back or not (he obviously dont fight to kill per se) but since we're the PoV and we're mashing the same buttons - its fair to say that Tyr is far more stronger than he's letting on - specially considering his experience and prowess. while on the ground - he instantly stops a god breaker punch from Kratos when he's supposed to be beaten and disoriented. I think he should be equal to Kratos. Nothing more, nothing less.
They were holding back their strength, but they were using their combat skills on full potential. Its a sparring match, sparring match is always about skills first. not brute strength
Tyr really is a very interesting character in the God of War franchise. And this video helps prove that. Plus, him helping Kratos to become better as a character was also really cool
I am actually excited on what they will do with Set, Egypt's God of War since the original plan was for both Set and Tyr to be the comrades of Kratos vs all evil pantheon.
@@josephfigues4202I thought Horus was a God of War for Egypt. Another of Set’s titles is the god of evil. An actual god of evil. So I’m wary of him. I could be wrong.
I think Set would represent everything Kratos was in the past a godkiller considering he killed Osiris(if the developers stay accurate to that story and most of the Egyptian gods are pretty chill and benevolent I would like to see Kratos and Horus have a sparring match or team up to take down Set Horus would see Kratos as an equal in combat
Seeing how he matches Kratos it is very likely Odin used some nasty trickery and all of his strongest Aesir to imprison Týr. Using some powerful magic around that cell. Otherwise nothing would hold him so easily. But i can also see something like threatening the Giants and Týr would not sacrafice the innocent. He is like Atreus became in the end of Ragnrarök. He is a warrior that opened his heart. Who does care about the suffering of others and that is his reason to fight. Týr in old Myth is THE protector god. The German word for door a barrier is even Tür. Because he is the man standing between of everyone and harm.
Man, I’ve been playing Valhalla nonstop on the Mastery difficulty or whatever, the hardest difficulty. When I finally got to Tyr that first time I had low health and no resurrection stone but I still managed to beat him the first try. That beginning reveal when he’s like “Because I can” and slowly summons his spear and shield, Kratos’ quiet “Show me”, that ending WWE move Kratos does on Tyr and then Tyr CATCHING KRATOS PUNCH AT THE END….DAMN IT WAS AWESOME!
Bro the hardest difficulty is so spongy and kratos dies in like 2-3 hits it’s actually unfair i beat Valhalla in the 3rd to last difficultly (hard) and it was perfect
I honestly would not consider Tyr to be a pacifist. I would see him as a fighter for peace for he litteraly fought for peace and he mastered his mind, body, and soul to be that person Tyr was, and was willing to pass it on to Kratos since understandably, Tyr considered Kratos to be the perfect candidate to be the next God of War for Norse gods since despite Kratos' flaws, he has become a better person and has been needing some wisdom and guidance for so long, and though Mimir helped, Tyr will be able to truly make Kratos into the perfect successor as the god of Peace.
I always hate that modern pascifism is characterized as a refusal to fight. It should be a philosophy of violence only as a last resort. Tyr's reflective and meditative ways exemplify this trait. He is in complete control at all times. Only relentless force could stop him, yet if he can win a fight without drawing a weapon he would.
O yeah Thor is definitely the strongest Aesir (when it comes to physical strenght) the guy literally splintered the world tree during Ragnarok but Tyr is certainly the most skilled Aesir when it comes to combat and maybe even the most experienced one. And honestly Tyr is probably the most skilled magic user as well (only bellow Odin himself)
I can definitely agree I love Tyr so much and him being equal to Kratos is so good! Him helping Kratos become stronger and more skilled is such a good thing for Kratos as a character! I hope people don't downplay Tyr's power people often do and it's disappointing.
After getting used to main game Tyr, the one going "oh no, i don't want to fight" and everything (yeah ok was Odin but still) seeing Valhalla Tyr is almost refreshing, finding back a person that you don't really know but you can get the feel "yes, this is what he should've been". For me, he was wholesome. Almost like catching up with an old friend ready to help you, even if it means getting a little rough
I'd really like to see how Tyr and Odin interacted. They're father and son, hell Odin even impersonates him most of the game, yet they feel so distant from each other. There could be a god-Tyr story of disillusionment and betrayal it they depicted what led up to Tyr's imprisonment, and how Tyr managed to maintain his moral character through all his suffering and being surrounded by sadistic narcissists. What positive influences did he have in Asgard? Was there a little part of him that still loved his father?
Were they ever confirmed to be Father and son in the games? I understand that in the original mythos they're father and son, but I feel like they changed that in the games...
I hope Tyr trains Kratos in foreign weapons and combat techniques to whatever new place he may or may not end up in for the next game. That way he won’t be totally helplessly against any foreign foes and can take on new weapons. Kratos does have a knack for getting better against his foes in multiple engagements.
I was losing my sh*t when tyr casually blocks Kratos punch without looking? I was like no fucking way! Makes me wonder if tyr was holding back! To casually block a punch like that from the man himself💯
@@fransthefox9682 why is that? Because you thought it so? Do you think they have the same powers 😂 😂 😂. Kratos is a completely different beast and one that is far stronger than Tyr. Feats, dialogue, devs all prove this to be true
@@GEEKY_HULK He's 100% right, both Týr & Thor are stronger than Odin. Thor is described as the strongest (so physically superior) Aesir, unfortunately for him he was a 1 trick pony, sure he's mighty & tough... but he's got like 4 or 5 moves & only 1 weapon that has 1 element. If Thor is a 10/10 in strength, Týr is 9,5 & Odin at 9,25 or 9. Edit: Thor HAS a varied moveset, it's just that the game does a bad job showing it. But he STILL only has one weapon that can only control one element. Also in his 2nd & last fight against Kratos he gets dealt with easily cause: 1) we was poisoned & 2) Kratos has a better arsenal (3 weapons > 1, logical) with the Blades of Chaos being more powerful than Mjolnir
All I know is that becoming a God of War comes with perks like having the best weapons from different pockets of the universe lmao. I think it was so fitting that Tyr also had his ensemble of weapons like Kratos lol
Lmao the real Tyr decides that a spanking might help you with your problems while Odin’s tyr was a cowardly pacifist. Shows how Odin’s judgement is perverted
It wasn't Odin's judgment, he specifically adapted that trait to try to keep the group from attacking Odin or the Aesir to prevent Ragnarok. It was a manipulation tactic
Tyr taught Kratos how to also use his mind in battle to his advantage. When you play through a couple of times Tyr says that Kratos is stronger than him and this is a fact. All you have to do is beat him a couple of times.
Kratos has always used his brain in the fight. Look at Heimdall, he emptied his mind on purpose, and used instincts, because otherwise he would've lost. Pay attention to his fight with Thor, where Thor said "clever, but clever won't beat me".
Glad they gave Tyr his spotlight in this dlc. He's the Norse god of war and we never got to see it. He might not be within the same power level as Thor, Odin and Kratos but he definitely makes up for it skill and experience. After playing this dlc, you can believe why Odin was afraid of this guy.
Two issue with the things you said 1) Thor wasnt anywhere near his peak since he was mentally depressed, defeated, doubted what he was doing and was passed out drunk a chapter ago so I doubt he was in his peak condition physically as well. Both mental and physical aspect play a part in how powerful a character is so the second fight between Kratos and Thor isnt as lopsided as you made it out to be. 2) Freya tried for 3 years straight to kill Kratos. If she was really his equal, she would have succeeded by now because Kratos was holding back and had no wish to harm her. Doesn't make sense for them to be equal.
1. I’m talking about the Thor we see in the games not some hypothetical version. 2. The writers and developers said it multiple times. Kratos was holding back not to kill her but wasn’t holding back to keep himself alive.
@@KeyIssues 1) He wasn't as powerful as he was in the first fight in any case. He was dead drunk a chapter ago. 2) It takes a lot of effort to fight someone who is as powerful as you and to restrain and stop them but not hurt them. I don't know if you do any martial art or combat sport but when someone is coming to you with the intent to hurt, if you aren't much more skill or powerful than them, there isn't legit anyway to hold them back from hurting you without hurting them back. Kratos has to be more skill or more powerful to always beat Freya in every encounter and not put permanent harm on her. If Freya won even a single encounter, he would be dead. So Kratos won for 3 years straight. Can we really say they are equal?
@@austinwinston1231 what states that thor wasn't at full power during their first encounter there's no mention of thor or odin before they came to kratos home also kratos only fought to keep himself and atreus alive he didn't want to kill Freya at all for those three years that she hunted them so yes he went all out to protect himself but not kill he even states this later after the fight glad that atreus didn't shoot Freya on the sled and again when he said he didn't want to kill Freya to begin with since he understood her people need to realize that going all out to kill is different from going all out to live kratos has no need to push himself to kill Freya
@@chromtastic2092 read what I said again. I didn't say that Thor was weakened on the first fight. I said he was weaker on his second fight than the first. 2) You completely went over my argument. Try subduing someone in a fight who is your strength and peer in skill when they are bloodlusted and you aren't allowed to hurt them.
I never have played beyond the regular difficulty in the many video games I’ve ever played because I never really needed or wanted to. After Valhalla, Tyr literally inspired me and trained me to pick the greatest difficulty on my replay of ragnarok.
The Norseman Saga's protagonist Caelan Erikson is an UnDead Nigh-Immortal Norse Viking that was born, lived, died & "cursed w/inability to leave" during the Viking Age, around 1,000A.D.
I still say that macahuatl is Xiuhcoatl, the weapon Huitzilopochtli used to strike down his sister (making her the moon) and his 400 siblings making them the stars, I mean that macahuatl spews fire whenever it strikes the ground!
@thatonemf7081 she isn't they showed the statement from the artbook, which is a mis representation the statement only said they are "equal in relevant metrics" and god knows what those relevant metrics are, Kratos is more of a strength and skill build, Freya is more of witchcraft build. So what "relevant metrics" are they talking about experience? maybe, battle IQ maybe? Who knows.. But the rest aren't. We all fall into the trap of understanding the statements incorrectly and misrepresent them
@CostmioLabos Yes he’s Odin’s son just like how Thor, Baldur & Heimdall all are sons of Odin. It’s stated in the God of War official Wiki if you didn’t know.
Oddly i imagine him and gohan getting along well and if they fought it would be together and if they fought each other it be the same as when tyr fights kratos in valhalla
I would like to share something interesting that i noticed about Tyr. First of all I'm Brazilian, and honestly I'm writing this from Google translate, so I'm not sure of the quality of my writing. It's about the meaning of Tyr's weapons, the first weapon he shows is a spear and a shield, this is Tyr conventional weapon's, due to the fact that it has his runic symbol. The tyr second weapon is a Macuahuitl,an Aztec weapon used mainly by the god of war and death Tezcatlipoca. Tyr third weapon is a pair of Khopesh, a characteristic weapon of the god Anubis, god of death and the underworld. And the tyr's last weapon is a katana,a weapon used mainly by Shinigami's in Japanese mythology. All three of the tyr weapons have to do with a God of death, the only one that breaks the line is his own weapon. But in fact, when you analyze the symbol that tyr uses on his shield you notice that one of the symbols it carries is that of sacrifice... I don't know what this could mean, but this is clearly no coincidence.
Love how when you have that early fight with Thor even he turns to pay some respect to Tyr when he destroys his statue by accident. “Sorry about your statue Tyr, ya old stiff.”
In mythology tyr is considered to be strong as odin,thor and vidar. Maybe even stronger. And by old beliefs,tyr is above odin. Holding place as high god. Odin is considered the allfather in new beliefs. In gow i believe he is stronger than thor and odin. Hell maybe even kratos. Take note that through his battles with kratos he was teaching him.
Odin would have likely have had to send Thor, Baldur, and a crap ton of fodder aesir and monsters, and whichever Valkyrie were absolutely loyal to all father.
If i played as Tyr in the next GoW instead of Kratos... I wouldnt be mad at all. Would be a great way to explore the Universe playing as arguably a better character. Exploring his journey to the different pantheons would be amazing
Very good video like always! I agree with almost everything you say. I personally would still think Thor is a little bit higher than Tyr but it's really not by much as Tyr really shows us in Valhalla that he isn't the Norse God of War for nothing! Also, I still keep some restraints on the assumption of Freya being the equal of Kratos. I know there's some statement that would go that way but her actual feats in game are clearly not helping to prove that (but I still think she's very close to Kratos level, just not being equal to him like other norse gods are). But this is only my opinion and I clearly don't mean to tell you you're wrong for thinking otherwise. I just wanted to give you my thoughts on this subject.
I asked you this when Ragnarok came out but in your previous God of war video you said that you would like to do the Greek gods vs the Norse gods was wondering if you’re still planning on doing that?
Greek Gods are clearly more powerful. Remind who and what Kratos is again? The OG series and its 2 Novels, depict the Olympians like in mythology but on steroids, while the norse soft reboot just isnt the same. What Thor + Jörmungandr did, suppossedly shaking the realms in the past, Ares alone did with his casual battle roars. While Zeus and Poseidon roars trembled the entire infinite creation.
Tyr’s biggest power play is casual stopping Kratos’ haymaker casually and then being like “aight lil bro I give”😂 Like bro I’m not letting end the fade like that, run it back
This dlc has been and amazing editions I played the game on the hardest difficulty And I struggled a lot and respected tÿr for for giving me on hell of a fight On of my favorite boss fights
Something smaller in terms of Tyr's strength is that if you die earlier on in the journey and talk to Sigrun, she mentions how it's impressive how strong he is given his years in captivity. At least to me this implies that Tyr himself was getting stronger and back into his 'A-game' so to speak as he fought Kratos and he progressed through his Valhalla journey.
I think Tyr’s natural pacifism makes him hide a lot of his true power, as in he’s showing a lot less than what he’s actually got goin on. In Valhalla after every spar with Kratos he singlehandedly and effortlessly catches Kratos’ punches without looking. He doesn’t keep fighting cuz he sees Kratos is ready, and obviously as his friend, it’s just a sparring match. A full on all out fight between Kratos and Tyr would shake the entire world for sure.
i cant wait for the next games where well see the parallel between how tyr fought and the natives to those lands also i just want to see kratos with an odachi because a kata would be too small
The subtle shift in weight line actually has relevance to kratos first fight with thor when the 2 are pushing on mjolnir in opposing directions and when kratos appears to be overpowering thor he shift his weight that hes putting toward kratos quickly to catch him off balance and strike him all in the matter of a couple seconds
Awesome video! My worry is that they made Odin and Tyr a bit too powerful. If Kratos can beat them, then what god would be able to rival him in future games?
Odin was stronger than Kratos Kratos was rivaling Thor more than any other The hierarchy of the Norse saga is basically this: Ragnarok Odin Thor Heimdall Freya Tyr Faye Baldur Magni=Modi Honorable mention: Freyr, Surtr and Sinmara are featsless so we don’t know how powerful they are
@ravenpapa27 totally, every Norse god excels in a fighting aspect and their is definitely no one as skilled in combat as Tyr Thor and Odin are just powerful in raw strength/power respectively while Gods like Heimdall or Baldur are unbeatable due to hax
Fun video! Tyr is definitely one of the most interesting gods of the pantheon. (I wonder if he scales above doomslayer, lol. I noticed you don't have a video on lore Doomslayer, that would be interesting to see.)
I would actually put Týr and Thor as being on par with one another. It's important to note that the entire time he's in Valhalla, Kratos is having a mental nerf, after not having Atreus around to rally him to be his best (he did say he will keep Atreus in his heart, but I don't think he's fully gotten used to his absence yet), and his struggles being confronted by his past. With Atreus around, Kratos was largely able to suppress his demons from his past, as we see in the base game, when Atreus is in Asgard, Kratos starts to fall apart and regress somewhat, reaching borderline Ghost of Sparta levels when fighting Heimdall. Due to this mental nerf, I think he isn't fighting on the same level he was during Ragnarök during his first few fights, and is slowly working up to being on his Ragnarok level after working through his trauma. Kratos may have gotten moderately stronger and more skilled, but it was more about his mental stability rather than any real combat training
The fact we never heard stories of Tyr nor in real mythology and nor in game just having some fancy animation fighting skills wont make him a higher than thor...thor on other hand has done so many feats even in real world mythology and in game mimir tells stories of how thor and odin are mighty and has done such incredible feats...so tyr is just a very good fighter who can create amazing weapon thru aura thats it
I don't think you can really scale Tyr against Odin's feat of slaying Ymir. Slaying Ymir was a metaphysically significant feat, but there wasn't anything indicating that Ymir itself wielded the sum of power that would later be transformed into the Yggdrasil and the nine realms. if you spontaneously convert a human body into energy, the explosion in accordance to E=mc^2 would be beyond anything that ever happened on Earth. but that doesn't mean that the human could wield all that power while alive.
I wouldn't mind a prequel game starring Tyr and his journeys to other pantheons alluding to where Kratos will go in the future eventually ending with him being imprisoned by Odin.
I think Tyr holds back. I get a sense that he is even stronger than Kratos. It's mainly because of how when you defeat him in Valhalla he just catches your hand like nothing. If he had to go all out Kratos would only win because of Hope.
It’s just an animation. Kratos would beat him in a real fight and I think try knows that. That being said Tyr could def still kill kratos but I think 6-7/10 times kratos would win high diff
Yes, because obviously Kratos is trying to literally murder Tyr here. They are both holding back. This is what training is for. Kratos would very likely win in the end if they were to go full strength.
He "tanks" it just as any Cyclops or Minotaur tanked it either in Valhalla or in Greece back then. And this isnt even the true Blade, but some Valhalla knock off.
I had an entire 5 min section about that, but I cut it out last second because it’s not the real Blade afaik and would just muddy the real scaling for him.
@@k.the.astral5902 Big claim, no prove lol. Infact fodder dieties from Kratos home realm like Ouranos and Nyx would squash Tyr and the entire norse village tribes he is related to.
It’s crazy how powerful you become in Valhalla 😂 you start off weaker than ever, by the time I 100%’d it I was basically running through the entire thing in a matter of minutes. Tbf I only play on medium difficulty but still, you get OP as hell
I personally believe (now that I mostly beaten valhalla dlc) that in my Opinion Tyr could beat Odin in a fight if the battle in question would be a 1v1
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Glad to know that dumb head canon of Kratos getting "weaker" of old age constantly and then dying isn’t true lmao that was stupid idea.
I thought Thor was weaken by jormugander poison and fight.thats why Thor struggled to rival kratos
@@hyjjjkyikk3158 lmao no not at all that’s purely fanon.
Nice Video tyr also fought Garm and Garm ate metaphysical concept of a season thats crazy even fighting Garm being this powerful even a crazy feat for Kratos
@@shifterlocker2361 Not at all, Thor was indeed weakened by Jormungandr's venom
Odin's Tyr: I can never pick up a weapon ever again. I'm a pacifist
Real Tyr:Hey Kratos check out my cool weapons
He is a weapon nerd
@@fluffyfluffs1167 Tyr would definitely be the kind of guy who would be absolutely giddy in a historical weapons museum.
@anotherytacc_9524 sounds like a skill issue
Kratos: Show me.
Sorry to be that guy but... *Týr
I like how the fact that Ares and Tyr are both the God Of Wars but they have different perspective and roles on how they should use war. Ares destroyed Kratos' life meanwhile Tyr regained it.
Same! Tyr is one of the most interesting characters in the entire series
It makes sense even in their respective mythological roles. Ares was always more of a man child who lived under the shadow of his sister Athena and thus was pretty cruel, impulsive and even hated by most Greeks. Tyr on the other hand was always viewed as a more Nobel and Just God of war that was as good with his spear as he was with his words.
I hope we get a spin off game about Tyr's past on another realm in case Kratos might be too old for the other mythologies
@@makarovmatsumo3125It would be smooth, because he visited those realms. Maybe he is the next God of War series.
@@ChristianMcClaine maybe they'll team up to protect the realms against a more blood thirsty pantheon or something eldritch in nature, just a thought
It's crazy that kratos actually learns new techniques from Tyr that's how you know Tyr is simply just "HIM"
Brings a Tyr to my eye 😭
Kratos learning something isn't a Tyr feat lol. You can be stronger and still learn from weaker fighters. Like goku learning from yardrats
@@Antonio-vn5xc who knows kratos could be stronger mate, but it is quite indeed a feat. Tyr knows many different moves and abilities from different lands that kratos isn't even familiar to it's an amazing feat in fact mate!
@@Antonio-vn5xc Yeah but Kratos describes him as one of his "most formidable opponents" & Sigrun says that there's "no shame in falling to Týr, he is WITHOUT PEERS... yet"!
@@Antonio-vn5xcI don’t think bringing f tier writing shonen as an example makes sense
I think Thor is the physically strongest
Odin is the magically strongest
Tyr is the most skilled in battle
How do you think Tyr would do against Heimdall?
@@SSJBlueVegito Probably kick his ass thats what he would do.
@@vyruss9348He meant like how would he land a hit
Tyr spear throw is same function as drupnir spear.
Tyr big sword can flame.
Tyr double kophesh can slash fast and many magic i forgot.
Tyr katana can shoot out ice power.
Tyr can blind his enemies.
With all that heimdall will get overwhelmed
@@A_Edits6067 His spear is similar to Kratos spear
Tyr is OP as hell. He doesn’t even break a sweat when he catches Kratos’s fist. He’s likely the only one who could have ever gotten Kratos to even consider trying to forgive his past mistakes. As charming and charismatic and wise as mimir is.. he couldn’t give Kratos what he needed. They totally redeemed tyr and I couldn’t be happier. My only complaint was that we never got to see vidar.
Tyr was more than a God of war in norse myth. He was the God of justice, so it fits his character to want to break peace
yep yep
He was also a god of honor
@@karolczapko4790 Too true. The only god brave enough to feed Fenrir and play with the pup, and had the courage to sacrifice his arm when challenged to break his new bonds.
He wasn't the "god of" anything. The Norse didn't really do that. He was commonly associated with justice and keeping your word. And if he spoke well of you that was considered a good thing. So those wouldn't be bad titles. You're just kind of applying a Greek system to the Norse.
Tyr says he's not holding back but everytime Kratos beats him, Tyr blocks his punch. That is a good indicator he isn't going full out. I was under the assumption Kratos was pulling punches as well since he didn't see Tyr as an enemy.
Kratos had to be holding back during his fights with Tyr. He certainly didn’t want to actually hurt him.
Then again tyr pushes him close to that edge of fighting when you see the back draft of kratos punch the same way he did thor but he knows when to stop himself
He's not holding back when it comes to purpose.
but you literally see him power up 4 times while using different powers that he didnt use prior. He is playing the part of a teacher after all.
Its hard to say the extent of Kratos holding back or not (he obviously dont fight to kill per se) but since we're the PoV and we're mashing the same buttons - its fair to say that Tyr is far more stronger than he's letting on - specially considering his experience and prowess.
while on the ground - he instantly stops a god breaker punch from Kratos when he's supposed to be beaten and disoriented.
I think he should be equal to Kratos. Nothing more, nothing less.
They were holding back their strength, but they were using their combat skills on full potential. Its a sparring match, sparring match is always about skills first. not brute strength
It was a sparring basically
Tyr really is a very interesting character in the God of War franchise. And this video helps prove that. Plus, him helping Kratos to become better as a character was also really cool
He's one of my favorite characters in the series
I am actually excited on what they will do with Set, Egypt's God of War since the original plan was for both Set and Tyr to be the comrades of Kratos vs all evil pantheon.
@@josephfigues4202I thought Horus was a God of War for Egypt. Another of Set’s titles is the god of evil. An actual god of evil. So I’m wary of him. I could be wrong.
@@KeyIssues Manhwa characters assassins vs Hunters
I think Set would represent everything Kratos was in the past a godkiller considering he killed Osiris(if the developers stay accurate to that story and most of the Egyptian gods are pretty chill and benevolent I would like to see Kratos and Horus have a sparring match or team up to take down Set Horus would see Kratos as an equal in combat
Man, now I want a Tyr DLC, ending with him fighting multiple Aesir Gods all at once and losing.
Or surrendering so he doesn’t hurt his family 👀
@@KeyIssues maybe he faces Thor, then gets jumped by both Magni, Modi, and Baldur
Or have him win but he is forced to stand down by Odin threatening the giants
@@jonathankennedy1963bro would toss all 3 of them around☠️
Seeing how he matches Kratos it is very likely Odin used some nasty trickery and all of his strongest Aesir to imprison Týr. Using some powerful magic around that cell. Otherwise nothing would hold him so easily.
But i can also see something like threatening the Giants and Týr would not sacrafice the innocent. He is like Atreus became in the end of Ragnrarök. He is a warrior that opened his heart. Who does care about the suffering of others and that is his reason to fight.
Týr in old Myth is THE protector god. The German word for door a barrier is even Tür. Because he is the man standing between of everyone and harm.
Týr is the perfect example of a warrior in a garden, rather than a gardener in a war.
TRUE!
*This is the Way.*
Man, I’ve been playing Valhalla nonstop on the Mastery difficulty or whatever, the hardest difficulty. When I finally got to Tyr that first time I had low health and no resurrection stone but I still managed to beat him the first try. That beginning reveal when he’s like “Because I can” and slowly summons his spear and shield, Kratos’ quiet “Show me”, that ending WWE move Kratos does on Tyr and then Tyr CATCHING KRATOS PUNCH AT THE END….DAMN IT WAS AWESOME!
Bro the hardest difficulty is so spongy and kratos dies in like 2-3 hits it’s actually unfair i beat Valhalla in the 3rd to last difficultly (hard) and it was perfect
I honestly would not consider Tyr to be a pacifist. I would see him as a fighter for peace for he litteraly fought for peace and he mastered his mind, body, and soul to be that person Tyr was, and was willing to pass it on to Kratos since understandably, Tyr considered Kratos to be the perfect candidate to be the next God of War for Norse gods since despite Kratos' flaws, he has become a better person and has been needing some wisdom and guidance for so long, and though Mimir helped, Tyr will be able to truly make Kratos into the perfect successor as the god of Peace.
Tyr is a warrior in a garden
He's one of those that fight with honour, so yeah he's not that pacifist
i think kratos will take tyrs responsibilities as god of war, but be called god of hope
I always hate that modern pascifism is characterized as a refusal to fight. It should be a philosophy of violence only as a last resort. Tyr's reflective and meditative ways exemplify this trait. He is in complete control at all times. Only relentless force could stop him, yet if he can win a fight without drawing a weapon he would.
God of Hope, you mean?
8:19 Damn!!! Tyr just casually flings Kratos like 30 meters away like it was nothing.
Rag dolls the ghost of Sparta 😵
He’s physically stronger than Kratos, that’s cool.
@@vexed2576 🤡
@@vexed2576 I wouldn’t say all that but he’s pretty close to Kratos’ physical strength.
@@vlad_47you crying under every comment from people who like Tyr is so embarrassing for you
I think in raw physical strength Thor still has him beat but he's a bit more powerful when his skill, arsenal, and varied magic is taken into account.
Out drinks him too
O yeah Thor is definitely the strongest Aesir (when it comes to physical strenght) the guy literally splintered the world tree during Ragnarok but Tyr is certainly the most skilled Aesir when it comes to combat and maybe even the most experienced one. And honestly Tyr is probably the most skilled magic user as well (only bellow Odin himself)
Nobodies attacks makes kratos fly like Thor’s he definitely is the strongest Tyr is more skilled and versatile
Let's not forget that thors strength is doubled by a magic belt that grants him might.
@@MotorcitynightsThat would be in the actual mythology. I’m not sure he needs or uses the magical belt in the game
I can definitely agree I love Tyr so much and him being equal to Kratos is so good! Him helping Kratos become stronger and more skilled is such a good thing for Kratos as a character! I hope people don't downplay Tyr's power people often do and it's disappointing.
Amazing story they told with him. Teased him for a long time and it paid off
They downgraded tyr because back then, Tyr was featless
They aren’t equal kratos is always holding back and he didn’t wanna kill him
@@Souphover Tyr literally told Kratos not to hold back and Kratos loses to Tyr in the canon story.
@@KeyIssues how do we know he stopped holding back fully
After getting used to main game Tyr, the one going "oh no, i don't want to fight" and everything (yeah ok was Odin but still) seeing Valhalla Tyr is almost refreshing, finding back a person that you don't really know but you can get the feel "yes, this is what he should've been". For me, he was wholesome. Almost like catching up with an old friend ready to help you, even if it means getting a little rough
I feel like he actually needed time, and as soon as he recomposed himself, he dedicated himself to Kratos
Tyrribly strong!
Lol, good one 👍
What a Tyrrible joke!
Lmao
Thanks Dad 😅
Brought me to tyrs with that one
I'd really like to see how Tyr and Odin interacted. They're father and son, hell Odin even impersonates him most of the game, yet they feel so distant from each other. There could be a god-Tyr story of disillusionment and betrayal it they depicted what led up to Tyr's imprisonment, and how Tyr managed to maintain his moral character through all his suffering and being surrounded by sadistic narcissists. What positive influences did he have in Asgard? Was there a little part of him that still loved his father?
i think that they had a neutral relationship, his travels could mean alot to Odin but we dont know if tyr hid his travels from odin
After playing this I was thinking about all the interpersonal relationships Tyr had and how interesting they’d be to see played out in some way
Were they ever confirmed to be Father and son in the games? I understand that in the original mythos they're father and son, but I feel like they changed that in the games...
Tyr was not Odin’s son in GoW.
@@nirjhar4803I’m pretty sure all of the Aesir Gods we see in Gow are children of Odin (except for Forsetti and Thor’s children and wife of course)
I hope Tyr trains Kratos in foreign weapons and combat techniques to whatever new place he may or may not end up in for the next game. That way he won’t be totally helplessly against any foreign foes and can take on new weapons. Kratos does have a knack for getting better against his foes in multiple engagements.
Kratos with a Katana would break the internet
@@KeyIssues watch him perform judgement nut end the moment he gets a katana crafted for him.
I was losing my sh*t when tyr casually blocks Kratos punch without looking? I was like no fucking way! Makes me wonder if tyr was holding back! To casually block a punch like that from the man himself💯
Said he wasn’t holding back meanwhile Kratos was holding back the entire game
@@ldtatum8459 Kratos holds back by not being angry. And Tyr was being calm himself.
@@fransthefox9682 calm and holing back power are two different things… Kratos is still much stronger than Tyr
@@ldtatum8459 Kratos uses more power with rage, and it's safe to assume that Tyr can grow stronger if he used rage too.
@@fransthefox9682 why is that? Because you thought it so? Do you think they have the same powers 😂 😂 😂.
Kratos is a completely different beast and one that is far stronger than Tyr. Feats, dialogue, devs all prove this to be true
I think Týr beats Odin personally. Just the amount of weapons and skills he possesses speak for themselves.
Lol
@@GEEKY_HULK He's 100% right, both Týr & Thor are stronger than Odin. Thor is described as the strongest (so physically superior) Aesir, unfortunately for him he was a 1 trick pony, sure he's mighty & tough... but he's got like 4 or 5 moves & only 1 weapon that has 1 element. If Thor is a 10/10 in strength, Týr is 9,5 & Odin at 9,25 or 9.
Edit: Thor HAS a varied moveset, it's just that the game does a bad job showing it. But he STILL only has one weapon that can only control one element. Also in his 2nd & last fight against Kratos he gets dealt with easily cause: 1) we was poisoned & 2) Kratos has a better arsenal (3 weapons > 1, logical) with the Blades of Chaos being more powerful than Mjolnir
Imao Odin made Tyr his B*** when Tyr was in his prime
@@ArthurMorgan-vr4mg False, Odin sent his army for Týr.
@@ArthurMorgan-vr4mg haha yes i dunno what kind of weed he is smoking 😅
HE'S TOP TYR!
😂 see what you did ...bars
All I know is that becoming a God of War comes with perks like having the best weapons from different pockets of the universe lmao. I think it was so fitting that Tyr also had his ensemble of weapons like Kratos lol
Lmao the real Tyr decides that a spanking might help you with your problems while Odin’s tyr was a cowardly pacifist. Shows how Odin’s judgement is perverted
It wasn't Odin's judgment, he specifically adapted that trait to try to keep the group from attacking Odin or the Aesir to prevent Ragnarok. It was a manipulation tactic
Tyr taught Kratos how to also use his mind in battle to his advantage. When you play through a couple of times Tyr says that Kratos is stronger than him and this is a fact. All you have to do is beat him a couple of times.
They're relative overall even if Kratos is stronger at the end of the day
Kratos has always used his brain in the fight. Look at Heimdall, he emptied his mind on purpose, and used instincts, because otherwise he would've lost. Pay attention to his fight with Thor, where Thor said "clever, but clever won't beat me".
@@slugma1054 yeah he has but not balanced thinking. That was the whole reason for Ragnarok
Glad they gave Tyr his spotlight in this dlc. He's the Norse god of war and we never got to see it. He might not be within the same power level as Thor, Odin and Kratos but he definitely makes up for it skill and experience. After playing this dlc, you can believe why Odin was afraid of this guy.
You also didn't mention that Týr is half Aesir god and half Giant, so, like Thor, he was born naturally more sturdy than even other gods.
God Of War, the entire series. Has some of the greatest lore in video game history
Two issue with the things you said
1) Thor wasnt anywhere near his peak since he was mentally depressed, defeated, doubted what he was doing and was passed out drunk a chapter ago so I doubt he was in his peak condition physically as well. Both mental and physical aspect play a part in how powerful a character is so the second fight between Kratos and Thor isnt as lopsided as you made it out to be.
2) Freya tried for 3 years straight to kill Kratos. If she was really his equal, she would have succeeded by now because Kratos was holding back and had no wish to harm her. Doesn't make sense for them to be equal.
1. I’m talking about the Thor we see in the games not some hypothetical version.
2. The writers and developers said it multiple times. Kratos was holding back not to kill her but wasn’t holding back to keep himself alive.
@@KeyIssues 1) He wasn't as powerful as he was in the first fight in any case. He was dead drunk a chapter ago.
2) It takes a lot of effort to fight someone who is as powerful as you and to restrain and stop them but not hurt them. I don't know if you do any martial art or combat sport but when someone is coming to you with the intent to hurt, if you aren't much more skill or powerful than them, there isn't legit anyway to hold them back from hurting you without hurting them back. Kratos has to be more skill or more powerful to always beat Freya in every encounter and not put permanent harm on her. If Freya won even a single encounter, he would be dead. So Kratos won for 3 years straight. Can we really say they are equal?
@@austinwinston1231 what states that thor wasn't at full power during their first encounter there's no mention of thor or odin before they came to kratos home also kratos only fought to keep himself and atreus alive he didn't want to kill Freya at all for those three years that she hunted them so yes he went all out to protect himself but not kill he even states this later after the fight glad that atreus didn't shoot Freya on the sled and again when he said he didn't want to kill Freya to begin with since he understood her people need to realize that going all out to kill is different from going all out to live kratos has no need to push himself to kill Freya
@@chromtastic2092 read what I said again. I didn't say that Thor was weakened on the first fight. I said he was weaker on his second fight than the first.
2) You completely went over my argument. Try subduing someone in a fight who is your strength and peer in skill when they are bloodlusted and you aren't allowed to hurt them.
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I agree with your thoughts here, very well put together video overall
Thanks !
A completely new tyr of power
Amen
I never have played beyond the regular difficulty in the many video games I’ve ever played because I never really needed or wanted to. After Valhalla, Tyr literally inspired me and trained me to pick the greatest difficulty on my replay of ragnarok.
With how calm he was when rescued after the game and seeing Tyr's level of power makes me think he chose to remain imprisoned and was just... waiting
I think in terms of raw strength and power, Thor has the edge. But Tyr’s skills, training, and tactics could probably outmatch Thor in battle.
Tyr seriously could become a combat teacher or mentor a really good one
The Norseman Saga's protagonist Caelan Erikson is an UnDead Nigh-Immortal Norse Viking that was born, lived, died & "cursed w/inability to leave" during the Viking Age, around 1,000A.D.
I still say that macahuatl is Xiuhcoatl, the weapon Huitzilopochtli used to strike down his sister (making her the moon) and his 400 siblings making them the stars, I mean that macahuatl spews fire whenever it strikes the ground!
Also at one point Sigrun said she knows Kratos is more powerful and that Tyr is not holding back because he would not disrespect Kratos like that.
Tyr went toe to toe with Kratos while being out of shape too.
True!
you said freya is an equal to kratos, any proof?@@KeyIssues
@thatonemf7081 she isn't they showed the statement from the artbook, which is a mis representation the statement only said they are "equal in relevant metrics"
and god knows what those relevant metrics are, Kratos is more of a strength and skill build, Freya is more of witchcraft build.
So what "relevant metrics" are they talking about
experience? maybe, battle IQ maybe? Who knows..
But the rest aren't.
We all fall into the trap of understanding the statements incorrectly and misrepresent them
Kratos : I lost all my weapons and powers in Greece. Most of them were destroyed.
Tyr : Nahh you just doing it wrong
So they went with the son of Odin Angle, I would’ve preferred the son of Ymir. So may Tyr was probably and older god that predates Odin.
I like him being Odin’s son tbh it creates more drama
no keyissues speaking bs fr@CostmioLabos
you not the writer bru@@KeyIssues
@CostmioLabos Yes he’s Odin’s son just like how Thor, Baldur & Heimdall all are sons of Odin. It’s stated in the God of War official Wiki if you didn’t know.
@@thatonemf7081 How is he speaking Bs? The God of War official wiki literally has Tyr’s Alias has Týr Odinson.
Peacefull warrior a fitting name for him.
While not related, the tagline you gave for this has me picturing this famous "Warrior of Peace, NOW EAT THIS SUCKA!" line from The Owl House.
Tyr deserves his own game.
true true
Oddly i imagine him and gohan getting along well and if they fought it would be together and if they fought each other it be the same as when tyr fights kratos in valhalla
Great work 👏🏾 especially on those pronunciations
Týr should be stronger than Thor and maybe rival Odin
Thanks! I’ll
I would like to share something interesting that i noticed about Tyr. First of all I'm Brazilian, and honestly I'm writing this from Google translate, so I'm not sure of the quality of my writing.
It's about the meaning of Tyr's weapons, the first weapon he shows is a spear and a shield, this is Tyr conventional weapon's, due to the fact that it has his runic symbol. The tyr second weapon is a Macuahuitl,an Aztec weapon used mainly by the god of war and death Tezcatlipoca.
Tyr third weapon is a pair of Khopesh, a characteristic weapon of the god Anubis, god of death and the underworld.
And the tyr's last weapon is a katana,a weapon used mainly by Shinigami's in Japanese mythology.
All three of the tyr weapons have to do with a God of death, the only one that breaks the line is his own weapon. But in fact, when you analyze the symbol that tyr uses on his shield you notice that one of the symbols it carries is that of sacrifice...
I don't know what this could mean, but this is clearly no coincidence.
Love how when you have that early fight with Thor even he turns to pay some respect to Tyr when he destroys his statue by accident. “Sorry about your statue Tyr, ya old stiff.”
Not to mention that technically, Tyr killed Kratos like several times, depending on how many times you died in your run.
The journey of Kratos comes full circle when it comes to his training. He learned a lot as a Spartan, and then From Ares.
Now he learned from Tyr!
I always took it the spear and shield were Tyr’s native weapons; we see his statues depict him using a spear and shield like this
In mythology tyr is considered to be strong as odin,thor and vidar. Maybe even stronger. And by old beliefs,tyr is above odin. Holding place as high god. Odin is considered the allfather in new beliefs.
In gow i believe he is stronger than thor and odin. Hell maybe even kratos. Take note that through his battles with kratos he was teaching him.
Tyr is that guy
Tyr summoning a centaur mid final fight was the ultimate pisstake
Odin would have likely have had to send Thor, Baldur, and a crap ton of fodder aesir and monsters, and whichever Valkyrie were absolutely loyal to all father.
Happy we finally got tyr in action agree tyr is the 2nd strongest norse god in gow
Yessssir
If i played as Tyr in the next GoW instead of Kratos... I wouldnt be mad at all. Would be a great way to explore the Universe playing as arguably a better character. Exploring his journey to the different pantheons would be amazing
Find it funny how Kratos and Tyr use a bunch of different weapons as a whole kinda makes me think other God of Wars are geeks for weapons
Very good video like always! I agree with almost everything you say. I personally would still think Thor is a little bit higher than Tyr but it's really not by much as Tyr really shows us in Valhalla that he isn't the Norse God of War for nothing! Also, I still keep some restraints on the assumption of Freya being the equal of Kratos. I know there's some statement that would go that way but her actual feats in game are clearly not helping to prove that (but I still think she's very close to Kratos level, just not being equal to him like other norse gods are). But this is only my opinion and I clearly don't mean to tell you you're wrong for thinking otherwise. I just wanted to give you my thoughts on this subject.
Thanks!
I asked you this when Ragnarok came out but in your previous God of war video you said that you would like to do the Greek gods vs the Norse gods was wondering if you’re still planning on doing that?
ummmm
Greek Gods are clearly more powerful.
Remind who and what Kratos is again?
The OG series and its 2 Novels, depict the Olympians like in mythology but on steroids, while the norse soft reboot just isnt the same.
What Thor + Jörmungandr did, suppossedly shaking the realms in the past, Ares alone did with his casual battle roars.
While Zeus and Poseidon roars trembled the entire infinite creation.
@@vlad_47 Nah, either Norse > Greek or they = (imho they are equal)
@@gonhunter3994 There is literally no case for the Norse gods. Bring it if you have one.
@@vlad_47 The novels of the Greek saga are secondary canon, so the feats are not all valid
Just finished the DLC , got a tyr in my eye!
Damn didn’t think I’d see an MCOC ad. It’s actually a good game
It would've been nice to see kratos and Tyr fighting alongside eachother in ragnarok
Maybe in the next one
Tyr is op almost managed to get him on mastery but he took me out the part when you are blind and gotta stay in the rings is just insane
You’ll get him
Tyr’s biggest power play is casual stopping Kratos’ haymaker casually and then being like “aight lil bro I give”😂
Like bro I’m not letting end the fade like that, run it back
To be fair in their second battle thor is drunk and most importantly was just done fighting the world serpent ! Before moving straight to Kratos
I think Týr is one of the fewest characters that kratos instantly trusted
This dlc has been and amazing editions
I played the game on the hardest difficulty
And I struggled a lot and respected tÿr for for giving me on hell of a fight
On of my favorite boss fights
Something smaller in terms of Tyr's strength is that if you die earlier on in the journey and talk to Sigrun, she mentions how it's impressive how strong he is given his years in captivity. At least to me this implies that Tyr himself was getting stronger and back into his 'A-game' so to speak as he fought Kratos and he progressed through his Valhalla journey.
Bruh what’s the name of the song in the background I love it and I love the vid great work 🎉
Damn Tyr got that Dagestan wrestling under his belt 😤
This last name is actually Makhachev
Please do a video on the other gods! Would love your take on Thor and Zeus
I love characters that have the power to rock entire worlds but choose to do good
I’m pretty sure that the spear and shield Tyr uses is his own, based on the statues of him in game
At this point I want a standalone game for Tyr
Considering Tyr is the 2nd Norse god to defeat Kratos while Thor is the 1st and he evan jump started Kratos's heart to do it again
Tyr never beat kratos
Who told you Tyr is Odin’s son? That’s definitely not the case.
Yes it is 🥰
I think Tyr’s natural pacifism makes him hide a lot of his true power, as in he’s showing a lot less than what he’s actually got goin on. In Valhalla after every spar with Kratos he singlehandedly and effortlessly catches Kratos’ punches without looking. He doesn’t keep fighting cuz he sees Kratos is ready, and obviously as his friend, it’s just a sparring match. A full on all out fight between Kratos and Tyr would shake the entire world for sure.
i cant wait for the next games where well see the parallel between how tyr fought and the natives to those lands
also i just want to see kratos with an odachi because a kata would be too small
The fact that Tyr faces a non holding back Kratos when a bloodlusted Thor got beat by him and this Kratos is stronger, yeah that's insane
The subtle shift in weight line actually has relevance to kratos first fight with thor when the 2 are pushing on mjolnir in opposing directions and when kratos appears to be overpowering thor he shift his weight that hes putting toward kratos quickly to catch him off balance and strike him all in the matter of a couple seconds
Awesome video! My worry is that they made Odin and Tyr a bit too powerful. If Kratos can beat them, then what god would be able to rival him in future games?
Can always weaken Kratos or give other gods crazy power. I personally think that the next game with focus on Atreus, not Kratos!
Odin was stronger than Kratos
Kratos was rivaling Thor more than any other
The hierarchy of the Norse saga is basically this:
Ragnarok
Odin
Thor
Heimdall
Freya
Tyr
Faye
Baldur
Magni=Modi
Honorable mention: Freyr, Surtr and Sinmara are featsless so we don’t know how powerful they are
@ravenpapa27 totally, every Norse god excels in a fighting aspect and their is definitely no one as skilled in combat as Tyr
Thor and Odin are just powerful in raw strength/power respectively while Gods like Heimdall or Baldur are unbeatable due to hax
What are you on about? If we are keeping it real none of the norse gods reached the feats and devinity displayed by just Ares alone.
@@Blake2X4 Baldur should be stronger than Heimdall.
Fun video! Tyr is definitely one of the most interesting gods of the pantheon.
(I wonder if he scales above doomslayer, lol. I noticed you don't have a video on lore Doomslayer, that would be interesting to see.)
Need more Tyr in my life
Bro is a legit menace …
after the first fight I was like
“Weak god of war … “ then the second tyr boss fight came and I died 😂😂😂
I would actually put Týr and Thor as being on par with one another. It's important to note that the entire time he's in Valhalla, Kratos is having a mental nerf, after not having Atreus around to rally him to be his best (he did say he will keep Atreus in his heart, but I don't think he's fully gotten used to his absence yet), and his struggles being confronted by his past. With Atreus around, Kratos was largely able to suppress his demons from his past, as we see in the base game, when Atreus is in Asgard, Kratos starts to fall apart and regress somewhat, reaching borderline Ghost of Sparta levels when fighting Heimdall. Due to this mental nerf, I think he isn't fighting on the same level he was during Ragnarök during his first few fights, and is slowly working up to being on his Ragnarok level after working through his trauma. Kratos may have gotten moderately stronger and more skilled, but it was more about his mental stability rather than any real combat training
Overpowered as hell, the dude kicked my ass more times than I care to count, and yet he's so nice that I can't hate him 😅
The fact we never heard stories of Tyr nor in real mythology and nor in game just having some fancy animation fighting skills wont make him a higher than thor...thor on other hand has done so many feats even in real world mythology and in game mimir tells stories of how thor and odin are mighty and has done such incredible feats...so tyr is just a very good fighter who can create amazing weapon thru aura thats it
Thor meat rider detected 🤖
@@KeyIssues yeah your mom 🤣🤣🤣
@@KeyIssues thats why your account os not growing hahaha and i like it TYR meat sucker 😅🤣😅🤣
tyr meat rider@@KeyIssues
I don't think you can really scale Tyr against Odin's feat of slaying Ymir. Slaying Ymir was a metaphysically significant feat, but there wasn't anything indicating that Ymir itself wielded the sum of power that would later be transformed into the Yggdrasil and the nine realms.
if you spontaneously convert a human body into energy, the explosion in accordance to E=mc^2 would be beyond anything that ever happened on Earth. but that doesn't mean that the human could wield all that power while alive.
I wouldn't mind a prequel game starring Tyr and his journeys to other pantheons alluding to where Kratos will go in the future eventually ending with him being imprisoned by Odin.
I think Tyr holds back. I get a sense that he is even stronger than Kratos. It's mainly because of how when you defeat him in Valhalla he just catches your hand like nothing. If he had to go all out Kratos would only win because of Hope.
It’s just an animation. Kratos would beat him in a real fight and I think try knows that.
That being said Tyr could def still kill kratos but I think 6-7/10 times kratos would win high diff
Yes, because obviously Kratos is trying to literally murder Tyr here.
They are both holding back. This is what training is for. Kratos would very likely win in the end if they were to go full strength.
Imagine all 3 of them going against kratos at the same time if they were all "bad guys", I wonder how that would play out
all 3? you mean thor, thr and odin?
@orhandalegend no Batman, Sup and Wonder Woman lol yes them 3
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Tyr probably could have broken out of prison anytime he wanted.
I really want to see Kratos meet Jesus, like that would be so amazing memes aside.
Do a video on Atreus I don’t think people realize how powerful he will be when he becomes an adult 😅
I should!
For now he just can turn into big animal that's all, he's powerful but not as powerful average god in god of war yet
Tyr LITERALLY tanks the Blade of Olympus and just says '' hmm Olymprian Power'' like WTFF xd
You do realize its for gamplay purposes, right?
He "tanks" it just as any Cyclops or Minotaur tanked it either in Valhalla or in Greece back then.
And this isnt even the true Blade, but some Valhalla knock off.
I had an entire 5 min section about that, but I cut it out last second because it’s not the real Blade afaik and would just muddy the real scaling for him.
@@vlad_47tyr is as strong as kratos, youre trying so hard to defend it in every comment, its pathetic😂
@@k.the.astral5902 Big claim, no prove lol. Infact fodder dieties from Kratos home realm like Ouranos and Nyx would squash Tyr and the entire norse village tribes he is related to.
It’s crazy how powerful you become in Valhalla 😂 you start off weaker than ever, by the time I 100%’d it I was basically running through the entire thing in a matter of minutes. Tbf I only play on medium difficulty but still, you get OP as hell
I love how 9:13 Kratos literally pulls out Mimir for him to pull a home lander on Tyr💀
I personally believe (now that I mostly beaten valhalla dlc) that in my Opinion Tyr could beat Odin in a fight if the battle in question would be a 1v1
Imo
I’d have to say it goes
1: Odin
2: Thor
3: Tyr
4: Baldur
5: Heimdall
In the actual Norse mythology, Tyr is the god of war as well as justice.