@joshuamohlman Hence why Tyr was the only suitable therapist for Kratos. He's been a war god, the son of a tyrant, and a traveler of foreign lands. He understands Kratos and what he's been through on a level that Kratos’s other friends and allies don't.
Tyr is literally HIM. He is THAT GUY. Odin was coping hard when he disguised himself as a tormented, broken Tyr, because even his torture methods weren’t enough to mindbreak Tyr, so all he could really do was slander his good name. He is still the same guy after all this time.
In case anyone was curious, the weapons he uses are: - the spear and shield, common armaments for Greek hoplites - the macuahuitl, a Mesoamerican weapon which is a club with obsidian blades embedded in it - a pair of khopeshes, from Egypt - and a katana, famously used by Japanese samurai Interesting to note, all of these weapons coincide with the locations we see Tyr visit in the base game.
Most likely they are also mithologycal weapons. I don't know to whom does the greek, egiptian and japanese weapons could belong to, but since that macuahuitl produces fire, you could say it is Huitzilopochtli's weapon (Aztec god of war) , the Xiuhcoatl (Solar Serpent), which was a living weapon made with the body of a legendary fire serpent. He used to behead his sister, the moon goddess and his 400 brothers, the stars that made the southern constelations, who were plotting to kill their mother Coatlicue
Sad thing about Mayan/Aztec warriors in battle, is that when you get injured, you'll be sacrifice. At least that's what I remembered back in history class
@@ChavaKrossThe spear and shield is an obvious nod to Ares. In the many pieces of art I've seen of him, he always holds a spear and shield. The pair of Khopesh and the Katana are a bit tricky. The Khopesh could represent Maahes, a Jaguar headed God of War and protection in Egyptian mythology, which is usually depicted dual wielding various weapons, most commonly knives, but it could be a reference. The Katana is even harder, but my guess would be Hachiman, a Japanese God of War associated with the Minamoto clan. Although, art and sculptures of Hachiman never depict him holding a weapon.
Difference between the two pantheons. Greek Pantheon seems to be very fixed and has little deviation from their set lot in life. Ares, really is not known for anything but war. He is all about the strength and might of conquest. He does not care for anything else, but war. Never hear of Ares being the God of Law or God of Civil Engineering. He is War. That is all he knows. While Tyr, also the God of War. Yet, he is of Law. He knows how to bring order. To wage war is to fight for peace. He does not relish in conflict for the sake of conflict. He fights for peace. To which there is order and law. For Kratos, he "stole" the seat to become the God of War. After being manipulated by Ares, betrayed, and then killed Ares. He was shunned by the other two-faced Gods. Made choices he knew he should have never made. Yet, he was so blinded by grief and anger. He did not care. Yet, after killing all the Greek Gods, fleeing, and pretty much starting over. He rediscovered himself, he found love, had a family, lost his second love of his life, had bonding experiences with his son, watched his son become a man, and now realizing it all. He was given a second chance. He became not the God of War. But the God of Hope. A man who fought against Fate and the dying light. He was Hope that shined the brightest in the darkest of times. He is the symbol of the strength of a man that is willing to better themselves and be better. To never let their past dictate their actions. They can never change what they did in the past. Yet, they can be better and bring a better future. Kratos did that. He is a better man. If anything. That is the key take aways from this story. Never let your past control you. You are the master of your fate. You control everything. No, one else. They may judge you, but let them judge. They do not matter. You are the most important thing that can make your life better. You just have to put in the effort.
@@Qardojust as a small addition, and simply for fun facts. Ares was also known as a (for the time) defender of women, at the very least those related to him, but he was shown to basically be very protective of his daughter, very caring of his mother and overall very consistent on that front... all the brutality, sadism and bully and brute mentality and tendencies notwithstanding. Obviously a very obscure part not applicable to the God of War Ares mind you, but that's also the reason spartans irl held their women to higher standards or social positions relative to other city-states, consider Ares was their patron god.
Tyr is honestly the only norse god that can consistently hang with Kratos. Its probably because he has more experience fighting(and learning) from other pantheons
@@nelson_rebel3907although kratos can indeed kill tyr remember this same tyr was just imprisoned by odin for who knows how long so this tyr kratos fought is at least a little rusty compared to his prime, Id assume prime tyr is way harder for kratos to kill
@@noggy3133 You mean the try-hards, minus them being an ally of any community, for they are ally to no one but themselves, for their goal is to win constantly, and if they don't win their game, they'd get toxic and mad as they belittle and trashtalk down onto others they believe are below them.
Ya know what’s even crazier? The fact that Tyr pulled out all 4 different from different pantheons other than Norse likely means he not only has more weapons, but he wasn’t using the weapons he favors the most (I.e is original)
@@tatersalad76 That could be a possibility. Or, perhaps, for that very same reason he did his best to perfect the arts of combat of his homeland, trying to bring the best out of them in a way he could be proud of the fighting style from his land and his own, so that he can show it off in friendly encounters with other cultures.
I love how both of them were obviously holding back, but in the last attack before the cutscene, you can actually see Tyr use some of his actual strength to stop Kratos and that immediately creates a shockwave. It's amazing to see how strong these mfs are
@@grimmywizardobviously but tyr was never depicted as an insanely strong warrior throughout the game which is mostly due to his peaceful nature. So him actually showing some of his actual strength here is pretty cool imo
Yeah, it's pretty nice to see another god of War with a clear and peaceful mind while still being formidable in combat, shows how skillful they really are. Now I wonder who's stronger between the two war gods, Tyr or Ares ?
Yeah he knew kratos was getting stronger willed and in peace with himself each time he faced him so countered that with better hacks and out of syllabus weapons lol absolute chad
I’m happy we get to see more of the real Týr. I can easily understand why everyone on the nine realms respected him, it’s because he’s fully aware of who he is and is at peace with himself. There’s no conflict in him, only respect and a desire for understanding others.
@@vivamexico254poetic irony is a god of war classic. God of war 4 was kratos learning to let go of rage and embrace people while the pervious 3 were him doing the exact fkn opposite
Same hear hermano. The lore of Mesoamérica is so incredible that it is perfect for a game. I imagine they will lean more Mexica than Mayan or any other Mesoamérica empire. They are all very similar but have differences. Mexica is safest way to go since Aztec have a such an appealing warrior culture that can rival any others.
@@Leonizer13 Eagle armor was for the trained royalty, a Jaguar armor or Ocelopilli would be better. Altough since hes a skilled veteran he would be a cuachicqueh
I like that tyr not only use the weapons but knows the same magic that these weapons hail from, the fact he uses aztec blood magic to regain his health is nutty
@code066funkinbird3 Tyr uses from what I can guess are talisman combing magic with the sword to do elemental damage. Kind of like in dark souls. Sekiro or elder ring when you need to buff a sword damage you in power it with magic
@@gsamalotHe was also able to make false clones of himself with the katana. In Japanese mythology, ninjas had the ability to deceive their victims by projecting a "clone". People'll probably recognize this as something popularized by Naruto.
Really gotta love how this shows how skilled of a warrior and how empathetic of a person Tyr is. With Odin disguised as tyr he only acted as peace loving coward whereas the real one understands the idea of “hope for peace but prepare for war”
I don't entirely think he is. Hear me out. While we don't have a definitive time table, it doesn't seem like That much time has passed just yet. I think Tyr is also getting something out of this. The fact he keeps getting stronger and stronger with each fight. I think Tyr is rehoning his own lost skills against someone who can actually challenge him. Now that he's recovered his equipment. While Tyr is getting to be a harder fight, His yields sound more and more worn out over the 4 fights.
I know you probably meant that he said "you're not ready" to Kratos but I find "You're not ready to Kratos" much funnier. As if Kratosing around is an action that Kratos ain't ready for.
I know everyone was pumped to see GOW go to Egypt, but after seeing the second weapon, having Kratos have to deal with the Aztec pantheon for some reason would be insane!
As someone who's learning Nahuatl Language, the culture, and also Mexican lol😅 I want to tell 3 different ways of interpretation about the Aztec/Mexica/Nahua/Anahuac (all México) culture and cosmovison. 1) There's a pantheon of gods 2) The pictures of "gods" are just representations of nature and universe things ( example; Quetzalcoatl is the wisdom and knowledge, Huitzilopochtli is the willness and the heart, etc) 3) There's one conception of something beyond everything (like the knowledge of One God), and all the pictures are the representations of all the different aspects on this EVERYTHING) and in nahuatl language theres words for this conception, even if is something that it's so beyond everything that cannot be named, but there's the words "Ipalnemohuani" (the one for who we live) , "Tloque Nahuaque" (The one close to us), Yohualli Ehecatl (Wind of the Night), etc. Honestly , in my opinion, I prefer the third one. But all of the 3 visions are amazing and can be beautiful in some way.
I love these kind of fights. This show that Kratos is not only strong, but also very skilled and experienced in battle. Anyone can use any weapon and fighting skills against him but clearly Kratos can adapt very quickly to fight his opponents
I know Kratos doesn’t like fighting anymore, but I can’t help but feel like he genuinely enjoys sparring with Tyr. He’s about as strong as he is, and it’s clear they can go all out without risk of killing each other. What better way to practice your techniche AND blow off some steam?
While also having some of the best therapy sessions he could ever have. What better way to improve yourself both physically and mentally than sparring with another god of war who is also the best Norse shrink. Which is ironic since he’s like 8 ft tall 😂
When people think Tyr was pathetic person for being a war god and choosing peace. You meet him here and realise he doesn't have that title for nothing. He has the strength and power, he just chooses not to weild it in a selfish destructive way, very respectible and admirable.
The God of Hope. One who has lost everything time and again, but chooses to find ways to better himself and not completely doom everything around him in spite of whar others see of him. The god who fought in hopes of a better tomorrow.
@@cutsleeve117 God of Strength, and not just physical prowess but personal strength of will and character, too. The only one with the inner fortitude and self-discipline to carry Hope and never let it be lost or snuffed out. Strong enough to give it away and keep it in his heart at the same time.
I may be overanalysing it, but I like to think that it showed that not only Tyr has mastered every technique of those weapons but also that he has an appreciation for the culture those weapons held from
@@toheekang174 that seems in line with Tyr as a character, a God of War who instead of only wishing for bloodshed, trains in, learns and respects the fighting styles of other mythologies/cultures
I love that Kratos hasn't just found a friend in Tyr, but an Equal and Peer to respect and grow with. Someone who does truly understand him, and does not cast judgement on him for it.
I like how Tyr participated and learned form the other pantheons he visited and he treated their ways with respect. He learned from them, he didn’t steal from them.
That's kind of what I was hoping for, a verbal spar. Younger Kratos defending his actions, trying to remind his older self why he did it why he can't be forgiven while the Older realizes that he can be, that he's always been more and that his younger self can only see anger and rage.
@@holyjolias3229 as if Kratos’ speech wasn’t cliche. Dude went complete Shakespearean on that corny dialogue. Is it bad? Nah, cliches aren’t bad but Ragnarök’s writers definitely are.
The music bears a slight hint of each culture, they're all slightly different by one or two instruments that make it seem more "aztec, egyptian or japanese".
Tyr to Kratos in this Game was basically their version of Vergil vs Dante from DMC. Diff set of weapons? Check Unique moveset from each weapon? Check Fellow God of war with different ideology from the protagonist? Check This makes tyr the perfect and healthy rival for Kratos. Also Kratos finally gets one hell of a therapy!!!
@@ssk58607 you can the same as Dante, he technically a Demon King after killed Despair Embodied. While Sparda could be a Demon King after rebelled against Mundus and his army's.
The interesting thing about the weapons that Tyr has is, I believe they might indeed be Easter eggs more than just weapons could be a sign that in the next God of war game could have Kratos fighting against a coalition of gods which would be epic, I mean, can you imagine Kratos fighting against the Egyptian Aztec Japanese as well as other methodologies like Celtic mythology that is indeed a possibility especially at the fact that Odin knew exactly who Kratos was and if they knew who he was, it’s likely every God in every mythology’s knows who Kratos is
Perhaps the other pantheons saw what happened to their Greek counterparts and elected change amongst their own. Frankly I’m surprised Tyr visited so many places, learning techniques & magic without being discovered (supposedly). Maybe the other mythologies also took the hope Kratos gave to the world at the end of GOW3.
I think they could be fighting a coalition of gods tbh. Kratos destroying the green pantheon is one thing. But Kratos destroying now two pantheons Norse and Greece is a pattern. A pattern that many gods would like to see end
I still think the next games will be placed primarily in Egypt, but perhaps it will end with the reveal of a coalition of evil gods. I would like to note that all three of the pantheons displayed in this video are ruled by sun gods. Ra the Egyptian falcon god of the sun, Amaterasu the Shinto sun goddess, and Huitzilopochtli the Aztec god of war and the sun. (there are multiple sun gods in Aztec mythology, but Huitzilopochtli is the primary one.) I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this DLC focused so much on Helios. Also bro I’m sorry, but that sentence was hella hard to read lmao. With all due respect, you need to learn punctuation lol.
The Týr boss fight was one of the coolest in the franchise. I love doing those challenges and building up Kratos each time to face a boss with different weapons and with a story to explore each time.
@@breloommaster12probably respected or at least decently known in other pantheons too. Of course not in Greece coz ya know, it doesn’t really exist lol
Odin is the most powerful. Thor is the strongest physically. Tyr is probably the best fighter and the wisest, although Odin is smarter in terms of planning and scheming.
I can imagine Tyr having a talk with the Aztecs gods being like: I like these preparations what are those called again? Chocolate And this? Tomato Also what are those called? Irrigation canals, we need those to water the upper plants and it becomes easier to get water once we clean the human sacrificed Fascinating...human sacrifices? Yes, without their blood we thirst and become irrationally angry I see...may I be excused Sure my friend *Tyr grabs a giant macahuitl and disappear into the unknown
He certainly wouldn't react like that. While the Aztecs are admittedly at the far end of the violence bell curve, the Norse gods are no strangers to human sacrifices. The most notable of them would be Odin, who received ritual sacrifices in which a person was hung from a tree and than ran through with a spear, but other Norse gods got them as well.
He knows that Kratos’s mind just works the best when he’s fighting. He remembers everything from a fight so he’s going to hold Tyr’s lessons close to him like he does with his great battles
That’s because they were, in Norse mythology those “tattoos” are called runes and they were basically how you did magic, for example a warrior might pain the Urzu rune to gain increased strength or one might use the Isa rune to conjure ice.
Shield and spear - Greek. Macuahuitl - Aztec. Khopesh - Egyptian. Nodachi - Japanese Also after the first time u fight him, the vest he wears is Tyr’s armour set that h can get from GoW 2018
And the Tachi is a very demanding weapon for its strength in the slicing motion at exposed defenses. A critical hit that is assuredly a mortal draw. Curved weapons even the Kopesh are dangerous at the slice, but the Tachi's design was made in consideration of available metal of the land.
Absolutely would love some kind of comic or something talking about and showing tyr going to each different Pantheon. I would assume that he would have been morally disgusted by the Aztecs. Human sacrifice was a poor even by the Romans and that was thousands of years before Norse. I could see tyr even killing the Aztec gods
I like how before the fights begin, you can hear a distinct sound that relates and represents the weapon Tyr uses, just listen to the Sound that occurs before the fight begins where Tyr uses the Katana.
Tyr was always my favorite of the Norse Pantheon, so I was a bit worried when God of War was slated to tackle it. Needless to say, they gave the God of Justice his dues.
I mean the fact that all we know is that Tyr was worshiped not only as a God of War (like 99% of all Norse Gods) but PRIMARILY as a God of Peace, makes this character study so fascinating. I hope the team responsible for creating him writes a book about their journey into discovering Tyr!
1:14 Weapon 1 : (Ancient Greek) Athena Goddes Of War Using Spear and Shield 3:09 Weapon 2 : (Ancient Aztec) Huitzilopochtli Deity Of War Using Macuahuitl 6:05 Weapon 3 : (Ancient Egypt) Sekhmet Goddes Of War Using Dual khopesh 9:05 Weapon 4 : (Japan) Hachiman Eight Banners Goddess of War Using Tachi (since it was bigger than katana from my perspective because tyr body makes it like Katana)
I don't know about the spear and shield being specifically Greek, especially since the spear and shield are weapons universally found across pretty much every culture.
@@jacobcox4565Spartans use Spears and shields, Kratos once said a spartan learns spears first, and tbh its what a lot of people associate spartans with.
@@jacobcox4565 yeah that is definitely true, but i think the reason for it being Ancient Greek is because most of the world know spartans with their spears and shields, like that one movie. (I forgot its name) and it makes more sense for it to be greek imo.
Most likely they are also mithologycal weapons. I don't know to whom does the greek, egiptian and japanese weapons could belong to, but since that macuahuitl produces fire, you could say it is Huitzilopochtli's weapon (Aztec god of war) , the Xiuhcoatl (Solar Serpent), which was a living weapon made with the body of a legendary fire serpent. He used to behead his sister, the moon goddess and his 400 brothers, the stars that made the southern constelations, who were plotting to kill their mother Coatlicue
This whole DLC is like trauma therapy for Kratos. Seriously, some of the things Tyr says are exactly what therapists have told me during my trauma healing process.
The mural at the end of 4 represented Tyr's adventures and this sequence of events perfectly replicates what he gained and learned through them teaching and helping kratos.
Something in how Tyr stops the final punch is intimidating as hell. Like all that time spent telling Kratos not to hold back was less about helping him overcome his demons than Tyr not wanting to just flat out curb stomp him straight to China.
When I first saw him use the first and second weapons, my reaction was indeed surprised, but when he used two weapons from Egypt I immediately asked whether Tyr would use a weapon from Japanese mythology or something like a katana? And yeah, that's it
@@blitzm4nn511 hence it would not be a katana at that point it would be like a Nodachi which is looks like a katana but longer and bigger and is a war blade basically
Ragnarok gives me hope for something most people probably don't remember. In the run up to GW3, the lead dev talked about their plans for the game. They said that, in their storyboard, Kratos would have a son that would time travel, and together they would end up traveling outside of Greece to the lands of Norse mythology, and then Egypt. He said that Kratos, his son, and this other person from Egypt, that he alluded was Kratos' grandson, would end the cycle of destruction plaguing the gods, and in the end of it, they would be among the last gods standing. Then he said the epilogue would show all three of them as the three wise men, visiting an infant Christ at his birth to witness the new hope of man. Obviously, that never made it into GW3, they had to cut basically all of it and just keep it constrained to Greece. But God of War/4 made me think that they were still using the original notes, even after all these years, because Kratos DID have a time traveling son, who ended up being a god of the Norse pantheon. And now, with Ragnarok and some of the things they've shown with Tyr, I'm starting to wonder if they're actually planning on going through with it, and we'll get one final game set in Egypt where we either play as or work with Kratos' grandson, presumably one of the gods of THAT pantheon. We may actually get to see the original planned epilogue after all. Especially with how much Kratos has changed and grown wiser, he certainly seems to be drifting into that kind of final shape as a character. It would certainly be one hell of a way to send off the series.
I love how as kratos is finding himself tyr is regaining himself he is for sure holding back but he has mostly been in meditation/rest in away since he has been freed these fights are also reminding him of who he is as by the fight with the katana he uses his armor and all his ruins are glowing as well as his eyes as if he has truly woken up after a very long slumber
You can hear the music in the instrument or background music everytime Tyr pulls out his weapons from different Myths/Lands. Really love the minor details!
In the Japanese mythology there's Raijin(or Raiden), the Thunder God and Fujin, the Wind God. What if when Kratos go to the Japanese pantheon, the gods he meet is MK's Raiden and Fujin?
@@jjjbgg5893 that's what I'm saying, they said Kratos' help against Shao Kahn will not be forgotten. Perhaps Atreus got into some troubles and Kratos goes to Japan and seek Raiden n Fujin for help
Would love it if they did that. Having the MK versions of Raiden and Fujin come to back up Kratos against whatever god or myth monster he ends up facing would be a ton of fun.
We saw that he travelled to others in the 2018 game. We saw his treasure room with artifacts collected from those lands in the scene where Atreus wears an Egyptian helmet and Kratos finds the wine and a vase of himself from his Greek days.
I love it how kratos posture changed. In his youth, it was like that of an arrogant man, waiting for a true challenge and now it looks like someone who is ready, ready to watch over others and his line" I want to sit here for a while" shows how rather than ruling and commanding from a throne, he would rather go to help.
Many forgot Kratos used already a weapon from another mythology in chains of olympus. He got Efreet from islamic mythology by persians. Would love a reference in a future game
Anyone noticed that each of Tyr's weapons is a mirror of Kratos's Weapons? Spear and Shield = Draupnir Spear Macuahuitl = Leviathan Axe Khopeshes = Blades of Chaos Katana = Blade of Olympus
Out of all 4 of these weapons, the Khopeshs from Egypt seem to fit Tyr the most, to me at least. That Katana is obviously for Badassery and the Macuahuitl from the Aztec Mythos was an interesting choice of weapon Tyr has
Its also the weapons associated with their respective war deities. The Spear and Shield for both Tyr and Ares (since while Tyr's shield is marked with his own rune, its designed like a bronze Hoplon from Greece), the Khopesh for Egypt (who had different war deities at different times - its complicated), the Mahacuitl for Huitzilopochtli, and the Katana for Hachiman.
I found it fitting his macuahuitl weapon allows him to use something akin to Blood and Fire magic. The Aztecs were famous in their sacrifices and their worship of the sun. Not only that whenever he pulled a new one out there was a little musical herald from the culture he used.
My fav thing from the Tyr boss fight is the dialogue. He’s so encouraging to Kratos. Which is a first from a GOW Boss. My fav is when Kratos uses Fury and Tyr is like “Such Fury! Such Control “
if u listen closely to the beginning of each boss fight u'll hear music corresponding to each weapon that tyr uses. nice touch to hint at each weapons origin
Another fact. The Macuahuitl means in nahuatl language "Wood of/for the hand, or Wood hand" From Maitl = Hand/Arm And Cuahuitl = Tree/Wood And yes, its the long of the distance from the fingers to the shoulder. A wood like a bat or cricket bat, with sharp obsidian pieces . Obsidian is the most sharpes thing in the world, but also so fragile. Curious, isn't? So powerful but so fragile as well. In the case of Tyr's Macuahuitl i do not know for his size if he is using a one hand Macuahuitl (size from.the fingers to the shoulder) that usually use a Chimalli (Shield) in the other hand, or is a two hands Macuahuitl (bigger and from the fingers at your right to the heart) in your
Some say that the obsidian being fragile helped in battle since every time it breaks, it becomes sharper, and the shards would get stuck deeply in the enemy's flesh.
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Greek, Aztec, Egyptian, then Japanese.
Egytian can be also mestophian mythology too
All these civilisations have gone to dust but they won’t get inspiration from the one that’s alive which is Hindu or Indus Valley civilisation
*Norse, Aztec, Egyptian, then Japanese
the shield has norse rune that means tyr
This is a hint that we could be going to other nythologyd
@@istheworldreal i believe the greeks forged that in honor of tyr and he instructed them to write that on the shield
I love how Tyr justifies helping Kratos: "Because I can." You can instantly feel Kratos's respect for him at that line.
Respect from one god of war to another
@joshuamohlman Hence why Tyr was the only suitable therapist for Kratos. He's been a war god, the son of a tyrant, and a traveler of foreign lands. He understands Kratos and what he's been through on a level that Kratos’s other friends and allies don't.
@@ericschuller908 Fantastically well said.
@@ericschuller908 oh I agree. Tyr is perhaps the only being in all the Nine Realms who could help Kratos the right way
@@quadrupledots4911in kratos lore note about tyr he’s says he sees why everybody loves hims so you’re wrong
I love how this whole DLC is just "Kratos goes to Therapy"
Right? Lol.
If therapy was like this really I think I'd give it a shot.
@@jeremyp5210 They need to develop a new kind of therapy where guys can just spar out their problems lol
@@jeremyp5210you’d be six feet under
@@Makafushigi PTSD Soldiers might have the right role for that 😅🤣
@@Makafushigiwell obviously we can’t have that happening
Tyr is literally HIM. He is THAT GUY. Odin was coping hard when he disguised himself as a tormented, broken Tyr, because even his torture methods weren’t enough to mindbreak Tyr, so all he could really do was slander his good name. He is still the same guy after all this time.
I'm HIM
I've BEEN HIM
I will continue to BE HIM
No wonder everyone loved and followed him, he’s an absolute CHAD.
He’s not only that, but it’s more accurate to describe him as the norse god of homies with how cool a dude he is.
With the way he looks and fights, no one would think that Odin is the king of the norse pantheon 💀
HIM HIM HIM HIM
In case anyone was curious, the weapons he uses are:
- the spear and shield, common armaments for Greek hoplites
- the macuahuitl, a Mesoamerican weapon which is a club with obsidian blades embedded in it
- a pair of khopeshes, from Egypt
- and a katana, famously used by Japanese samurai
Interesting to note, all of these weapons coincide with the locations we see Tyr visit in the base game.
Most likely they are also mithologycal weapons. I don't know to whom does the greek, egiptian and japanese weapons could belong to, but since that macuahuitl produces fire, you could say it is Huitzilopochtli's weapon (Aztec god of war) , the Xiuhcoatl (Solar Serpent), which was a living weapon made with the body of a legendary fire serpent. He used to behead his sister, the moon goddess and his 400 brothers, the stars that made the southern constelations, who were plotting to kill their mother Coatlicue
The spear actually belongs to him.
Sad thing about Mayan/Aztec warriors in battle, is that when you get injured, you'll be sacrifice. At least that's what I remembered back in history class
@@ChavaKrossThe spear and shield is an obvious nod to Ares. In the many pieces of art I've seen of him, he always holds a spear and shield. The pair of Khopesh and the Katana are a bit tricky. The Khopesh could represent Maahes, a Jaguar headed God of War and protection in Egyptian mythology, which is usually depicted dual wielding various weapons, most commonly knives, but it could be a reference. The Katana is even harder, but my guess would be Hachiman, a Japanese God of War associated with the Minamoto clan. Although, art and sculptures of Hachiman never depict him holding a weapon.
The spear and shield are the norse Tyr's weapons, dude...
Ares - The God Of War that woke up the monster inside of Kratos.
Tyr - The God Of War that gave hope and redemption for Kratos.
Difference between the two pantheons.
Greek Pantheon seems to be very fixed and has little deviation from their set lot in life. Ares, really is not known for anything but war. He is all about the strength and might of conquest. He does not care for anything else, but war. Never hear of Ares being the God of Law or God of Civil Engineering. He is War. That is all he knows.
While Tyr, also the God of War. Yet, he is of Law. He knows how to bring order. To wage war is to fight for peace. He does not relish in conflict for the sake of conflict. He fights for peace. To which there is order and law.
For Kratos, he "stole" the seat to become the God of War. After being manipulated by Ares, betrayed, and then killed Ares. He was shunned by the other two-faced Gods. Made choices he knew he should have never made. Yet, he was so blinded by grief and anger. He did not care.
Yet, after killing all the Greek Gods, fleeing, and pretty much starting over. He rediscovered himself, he found love, had a family, lost his second love of his life, had bonding experiences with his son, watched his son become a man, and now realizing it all. He was given a second chance. He became not the God of War. But the God of Hope. A man who fought against Fate and the dying light. He was Hope that shined the brightest in the darkest of times. He is the symbol of the strength of a man that is willing to better themselves and be better. To never let their past dictate their actions. They can never change what they did in the past. Yet, they can be better and bring a better future. Kratos did that. He is a better man.
If anything. That is the key take aways from this story. Never let your past control you. You are the master of your fate. You control everything. No, one else. They may judge you, but let them judge. They do not matter. You are the most important thing that can make your life better. You just have to put in the effort.
@@Qardojust as a small addition, and simply for fun facts. Ares was also known as a (for the time) defender of women, at the very least those related to him, but he was shown to basically be very protective of his daughter, very caring of his mother and overall very consistent on that front... all the brutality, sadism and bully and brute mentality and tendencies notwithstanding. Obviously a very obscure part not applicable to the God of War Ares mind you, but that's also the reason spartans irl held their women to higher standards or social positions relative to other city-states, consider Ares was their patron god.
@@Qardobeautifully said man
@@Qardo
That's fair since greek gods have the biggest assholes and rapist in entire mythology (Zeus) and Norse have the most coward con artist.
Tyr, makes kratos to become one with that monster and to master that monster
From that day on, Týr became Kratos’ regular sparring buddy.
Tbf he's one of few beings capable of going toe to toe with Kratos...
You mean therapist 😂
@@Headset537
Tyrapist
@youraveragegrandma568 one god of war to another
@@youraveragegrandma568makes me understand why Odin needed thor together to capture Tyr. In a 1 vs 1, Tyr probably shames them
This DLC made Tyr such an admirable character. For sure put him in my top 6 for the series.
Makes me even more mad at Odin for how he slandered his name. Kratos and this Mf could’ve soloed Ragnarok easy.
I was worried we'd be left with him being a typical pacifist hippie lol
Thank god we finally got to see him in action
@@futabafanclubI know this is off topic but imagine Young Kratos, Thor and Tyr Against Odin 💀
@-SpiderEditz old Kratos is stronger, since greek gods become stronger with age, but odin wouldn't have stood a chance against the 3 of them
@@Comicedits39
You just described a slaughter.
Tyr is honestly the only norse god that can consistently hang with Kratos. Its probably because he has more experience fighting(and learning) from other pantheons
This was nothing but sparing. If Kratos wanted to kill he would.
@@nelson_rebel3907dont underestimate Tyr either, he’s not a ordinary God and also can be deadly
Tyr is Kratos but with a healthy mind
@@clarentknight Hes got the same title hes NOT the same as Kratos. Gods are not equal just because they have the same title
@@nelson_rebel3907although kratos can indeed kill tyr remember this same tyr was just imprisoned by odin for who knows how long so this tyr kratos fought is at least a little rusty compared to his prime, Id assume prime tyr is way harder for kratos to kill
Tyr is the type of guy that completed 100% of the storyline 😂
“Because i can.”
He’s the chill dude who is secretly really good at the game
@@projectx7453 sweaty casuals are a menace and a ally to any community.
@@noggy3133 You mean the try-hards, minus them being an ally of any community, for they are ally to no one but themselves, for their goal is to win constantly, and if they don't win their game, they'd get toxic and mad as they belittle and trashtalk down onto others they believe are below them.
na they the chill dudes who are just good are top tier players
@@noggy3133
Ya know what’s even crazier? The fact that Tyr pulled out all 4 different from different pantheons other than Norse likely means he not only has more weapons, but he wasn’t using the weapons he favors the most (I.e is original)
Given how cultured Tyr is, I imagine he honed himself more with foreign weapons out of greater respect for them than his savage homelands
@@tatersalad76I wouldn’t be surprised if the Gods of the lands he visited even taught him how to use the weapons and magic of their lands.
That’s a huge assumption
@@tatersalad76 That could be a possibility. Or, perhaps, for that very same reason he did his best to perfect the arts of combat of his homeland, trying to bring the best out of them in a way he could be proud of the fighting style from his land and his own, so that he can show it off in friendly encounters with other cultures.
In Norse mythology, Tyr is several times depicted using shield and spear
I love how both of them were obviously holding back, but in the last attack before the cutscene, you can actually see Tyr use some of his actual strength to stop Kratos and that immediately creates a shockwave. It's amazing to see how strong these mfs are
Agreed it shows how much they respect each other
Ofcourse. They're Gods. Of War.
@@grimmywizardobviously but tyr was never depicted as an insanely strong warrior throughout the game which is mostly due to his peaceful nature. So him actually showing some of his actual strength here is pretty cool imo
Yeah, it's pretty nice to see another god of War with a clear and peaceful mind while still being formidable in combat, shows how skillful they really are.
Now I wonder who's stronger between the two war gods, Tyr or Ares ?
@@Daxonsprobably Ares. Greek pantheon in GOW are Aspect given form while Norse are more people with super powers.
I like how Tyr's eyes and tattoos glow with each boss encounter. And I like how he started wearing his armor
Low-key reminds of the avatar state how his forehead and hands glow.
Yeah he knew kratos was getting stronger willed and in peace with himself each time he faced him so countered that with better hacks and out of syllabus weapons lol absolute chad
and you realize the music theme changing as Tyr pull different weapons too
@@ssk58607yes war makes both of them stronger he was sparring with Kratos to get him stronger
I’m happy we get to see more of the real Týr. I can easily understand why everyone on the nine realms respected him, it’s because he’s fully aware of who he is and is at peace with himself. There’s no conflict in him, only respect and a desire for understanding others.
A god of war at peace with himself, poetic
@@vivamexico254poetic irony is a god of war classic. God of war 4 was kratos learning to let go of rage and embrace people while the pervious 3 were him doing the exact fkn opposite
I know most will be thrilled with the Katana and the Kopesh but seeing Tyr wielding a macuahuitl warms my Mexican heart.
Looks too big to be katana
It be more of like a nodachi basically
Same hear hermano. The lore of Mesoamérica is so incredible that it is perfect for a game. I imagine they will lean more Mexica than Mayan or any other Mesoamérica empire. They are all very similar but have differences. Mexica is safest way to go since Aztec have a such an appealing warrior culture that can rival any others.
Myself as well! If Kratos ever ends up visiting the Mesoamerican gods he'd look badass in Aztec eagle armor
@@Leonizer13 Eagle armor was for the trained royalty, a Jaguar armor or Ocelopilli would be better. Altough since hes a skilled veteran he would be a cuachicqueh
@@lag00n54it's just a katana sized for Tyr
Imagine someone stopping one of your best haymakers with one hand casually and then being like, “I give up, you got it bro”
He even got a few steps to build momentum and Tyr was like, "Aight little bro, that's enough."
I like that tyr not only use the weapons but knows the same magic that these weapons hail from, the fact he uses aztec blood magic to regain his health is nutty
What about the other three, especially the katana was my favorite
@code066funkinbird3 Tyr uses from what I can guess are talisman combing magic with the sword to do elemental damage. Kind of like in dark souls. Sekiro or elder ring when you need to buff a sword damage you in power it with magic
@@gsamalot Kinda like nioh
@@gsamalot NGl I was expecting him to do judgment cut l end like move XD
@@gsamalotHe was also able to make false clones of himself with the katana. In Japanese mythology, ninjas had the ability to deceive their victims by projecting a "clone". People'll probably recognize this as something popularized by Naruto.
I just noticed that when tyr's fight starts the starting music changes based on the mythology his weapons are based on
I noticed that too, you can hear the flute when he takes out the Katana
@@sebastiancervellothat’s like the only time u can really tell the difference
I was gonna say that because I noticed it at the Egyptian sword(forgot it’s name)
@@Murderdroneslover578 khopesh?
@@fun-yuns yes
Really gotta love how this shows how skilled of a warrior and how empathetic of a person Tyr is. With Odin disguised as tyr he only acted as peace loving coward whereas the real one understands the idea of “hope for peace but prepare for war”
Tyr was 1000% holding back! He's definitely living up to his Title "God of War" of these lands!
Oh for sure. The way he caught Kratos' punch was badass. Glad they did more with *actual* Tyr.
@@hongkong8907 Couldn’t agree more🤜🏾🫷🏾
I don't entirely think he is. Hear me out. While we don't have a definitive time table, it doesn't seem like That much time has passed just yet. I think Tyr is also getting something out of this. The fact he keeps getting stronger and stronger with each fight. I think Tyr is rehoning his own lost skills against someone who can actually challenge him. Now that he's recovered his equipment. While Tyr is getting to be a harder fight, His yields sound more and more worn out over the 4 fights.
When you get to the last fight with tier and lose, Mimir says Tyr is no slouch and not holding back.
Are you mental?
I love how each weapon reveals the music played by their specific culture
i was looking in the comments if anyone else noticed
yeah, i did notice it, but when Tyr reveal the Kopesh, I don't notice any hint of ancient egypt music
@@hagnier14its very hard to hear because its quiet, but there are heavy drums in the backroun during tyr pulling out the khopesh's
Finally someone else noticed it, the music is so good when he whips out the Katana in the final fight
I was looking for this, it is so cool.
Tyr is the only guy who could say "You're not ready to Kratos" 😮
Kratos is Tyr's BOI 😂
I'm pretty sure Loki said it to him too unless I'm thinking of when he told him he needs to be better
i mean tyr pulled like 4 dlc weapons from future games 😂😂
I know you probably meant that he said "you're not ready" to Kratos but I find "You're not ready to Kratos" much funnier. As if Kratosing around is an action that Kratos ain't ready for.
I know everyone was pumped to see GOW go to Egypt, but after seeing the second weapon, having Kratos have to deal with the Aztec pantheon for some reason would be insane!
i kinda want to see GoW with the indian pantheon. but also those MFs are op as all hell
And wasn't mimir born in Aztec it would make since
@@Acranify Kratos vs. Shiva would be wild
As someone who's learning Nahuatl Language, the culture, and also Mexican lol😅
I want to tell 3 different ways of interpretation about the Aztec/Mexica/Nahua/Anahuac (all México) culture and cosmovison.
1) There's a pantheon of gods
2) The pictures of "gods" are just representations of nature and universe things ( example; Quetzalcoatl is the wisdom and knowledge, Huitzilopochtli is the willness and the heart, etc)
3) There's one conception of something beyond everything (like the knowledge of One God), and all the pictures are the representations of all the different aspects on this EVERYTHING) and in nahuatl language theres words for this conception, even if is something that it's so beyond everything that cannot be named, but there's the words "Ipalnemohuani" (the one for who we live) , "Tloque Nahuaque" (The one close to us), Yohualli Ehecatl (Wind of the Night), etc.
Honestly , in my opinion, I prefer the third one.
But all of the 3 visions are amazing and can be beautiful in some way.
@@DarkLordSauronrocksno he was born in Celtic lands
I love these kind of fights. This show that Kratos is not only strong, but also very skilled and experienced in battle. Anyone can use any weapon and fighting skills against him but clearly Kratos can adapt very quickly to fight his opponents
Well Kratos is a God of War for a reason
I know Kratos doesn’t like fighting anymore, but I can’t help but feel like he genuinely enjoys sparring with Tyr. He’s about as strong as he is, and it’s clear they can go all out without risk of killing each other. What better way to practice your techniche AND blow off some steam?
While also having some of the best therapy sessions he could ever have. What better way to improve yourself both physically and mentally than sparring with another god of war who is also the best Norse shrink. Which is ironic since he’s like 8 ft tall 😂
I thought he liked fighting?
He still likes fighting, just not killing, he’ll always be up for a good sparring match
He does enjoy fighting. Mimir even says he seems more like himself after entering valhalla
When people think Tyr was pathetic person for being a war god and choosing peace. You meet him here and realise he doesn't have that title for nothing. He has the strength and power, he just chooses not to weild it in a selfish destructive way, very respectible and admirable.
I think the real message here is although Kratos has made mistakes, he is ultimately human. Probably the most human god in the pantheon.
He was originally a human
@@spider-man500*demigod* ,his father was Zeus
Kratos, God of Hope. has a nice ring to it
The God of Hope. One who has lost everything time and again, but chooses to find ways to better himself and not completely doom everything around him in spite of whar others see of him.
The god who fought in hopes of a better tomorrow.
@@cutsleeve117 God of Strength, and not just physical prowess but personal strength of will and character, too. The only one with the inner fortitude and self-discipline to carry Hope and never let it be lost or snuffed out. Strong enough to give it away and keep it in his heart at the same time.
i love how whenever each weapon is summoned, you can clearly hear the traditional music of that mythologies culture
I may be overanalysing it, but I like to think that it showed that not only Tyr has mastered every technique of those weapons but also that he has an appreciation for the culture those weapons held from
@@toheekang174 that seems in line with Tyr as a character, a God of War who instead of only wishing for bloodshed, trains in, learns and respects the fighting styles of other mythologies/cultures
I love that Kratos hasn't just found a friend in Tyr, but an Equal and Peer to respect and grow with. Someone who does truly understand him, and does not cast judgement on him for it.
I like how Tyr participated and learned form the other pantheons he visited and he treated their ways with respect. He learned from them, he didn’t steal from them.
Good thing they didn't invent the term "cultural appropriation" yet 😂
@@victora.1329Ikr?
Imagine if they had the original kratos VA talk in the final scene
That's kind of what I was hoping for, a verbal spar. Younger Kratos defending his actions, trying to remind his older self why he did it why he can't be forgiven while the Older realizes that he can be, that he's always been more and that his younger self can only see anger and rage.
@@KenshiImmortalWolf Thank God you're not a writer. Most cliche shit I've ever read LMAOOO
@@holyjolias3229 as if Kratos’ speech wasn’t cliche. Dude went complete Shakespearean on that corny dialogue.
Is it bad? Nah, cliches aren’t bad but Ragnarök’s writers definitely are.
@@rohansensei5708you must be fun at parties…even bad with how you’d conceive up stories
@@holyjolias3229the drawn out Shakespearian monologue wasn’t much better tbh
Its great that we see tyr using the weapons that he collected from any civilization he visited based on that panel we saw from the previous game
The sound when tyr pull his weapon each fight. It's looks like the developer give a hints to us for the next or the future god of war game
Probably hahaha
The music bears a slight hint of each culture, they're all slightly different by one or two instruments that make it seem more "aztec, egyptian or japanese".
Imagine if its all 3 against kratos next game
Honestly him busting out a samurai sword made me smile
For me it was the Mayan weapon since they're my ancestors
@@dragonrider1736 Mayan weapons are badass
@@johnashiru3952that one feel so powerful
@@dragonrider1736 is it supposed to be blunt weapon or piecing
@@MR.K-x8i think of it like you're holding a wood that has shark teeth's on the side of the wood, it won't cut clean but it does tear off the flesh
Love that kratos is given a monologue that rivals some of the best monologues
Tyr to Kratos in this Game was basically their version of Vergil vs Dante from DMC.
Diff set of weapons? Check
Unique moveset from each weapon? Check
Fellow God of war with different ideology from the protagonist? Check
This makes tyr the perfect and healthy rival for Kratos.
Also Kratos finally gets one hell of a therapy!!!
They are also sons of kings in their respective domain lol Sparda was kinda the demon king, while Zeus and Odin were too
When tyr pulled out the katana, i couldnt help but start singing bury the light
@@ssk58607 you can the same as Dante, he technically a Demon King after killed Despair Embodied. While Sparda could be a Demon King after rebelled against Mundus and his army's.
I thought that sword kratos was using in the third fight looked like the rebellion
I used the Flawless Ares armor set for the last battle and seeing their opposing color palettes definetly made me think of those two too lol
The interesting thing about the weapons that Tyr has is, I believe they might indeed be Easter eggs more than just weapons could be a sign that in the next God of war game could have Kratos fighting against a coalition of gods which would be epic, I mean, can you imagine Kratos fighting against the Egyptian Aztec Japanese as well as other methodologies like Celtic mythology that is indeed a possibility especially at the fact that Odin knew exactly who Kratos was and if they knew who he was, it’s likely every God in every mythology’s knows who Kratos is
Perhaps the other pantheons saw what happened to their Greek counterparts and elected change amongst their own. Frankly I’m surprised Tyr visited so many places, learning techniques & magic without being discovered (supposedly).
Maybe the other mythologies also took the hope Kratos gave to the world at the end of GOW3.
@MalosiVA or maybe the council has decided death sentence:>
I think they could be fighting a coalition of gods tbh. Kratos destroying the green pantheon is one thing. But Kratos destroying now two pantheons Norse and Greece is a pattern. A pattern that many gods would like to see end
I doubt Kratos has much reason to leave the Norse lands any more. If we see other pantheons I bet it'll be through Atreus's travels.
I still think the next games will be placed primarily in Egypt, but perhaps it will end with the reveal of a coalition of evil gods. I would like to note that all three of the pantheons displayed in this video are ruled by sun gods. Ra the Egyptian falcon god of the sun, Amaterasu the Shinto sun goddess, and Huitzilopochtli the Aztec god of war and the sun. (there are multiple sun gods in Aztec mythology, but Huitzilopochtli is the primary one.) I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this DLC focused so much on Helios.
Also bro I’m sorry, but that sentence was hella hard to read lmao. With all due respect, you need to learn punctuation lol.
The Týr boss fight was one of the coolest in the franchise. I love doing those challenges and building up Kratos each time to face a boss with different weapons and with a story to explore each time.
Tyr holding back Kratos's punch is one of the COOLEST moments I've ever seen
I love how while Tyr is revealing his weapons...the music that plays for each one is from their respective methodologies
“Hey Kratos, check out this cool stick I found. Wanna see me beat the shit out of you with it?”
“I want to see you _try”_
Tyr is possibly the most powerful and wise easir god.
Man's is respected throughout the nine realms for damn good reason
@@breloommaster12probably respected or at least decently known in other pantheons too. Of course not in Greece coz ya know, it doesn’t really exist lol
Odin is the most powerful. Thor is the strongest physically. Tyr is probably the best fighter and the wisest, although Odin is smarter in terms of planning and scheming.
Æsir
nah odins definitely still the most powerful
I can imagine Tyr having a talk with the Aztecs gods being like:
I like these preparations what are those called again?
Chocolate
And this?
Tomato
Also what are those called?
Irrigation canals, we need those to water the upper plants and it becomes easier to get water once we clean the human sacrificed
Fascinating...human sacrifices?
Yes, without their blood we thirst and become irrationally angry
I see...may I be excused
Sure my friend
*Tyr grabs a giant macahuitl and disappear into the unknown
He certainly wouldn't react like that. While the Aztecs are admittedly at the far end of the violence bell curve, the Norse gods are no strangers to human sacrifices. The most notable of them would be Odin, who received ritual sacrifices in which a person was hung from a tree and than ran through with a spear, but other Norse gods got them as well.
I love how every weapon Týr summons has its own musical motif from the land it comes from.
He knows that Kratos’s mind just works the best when he’s fighting. He remembers everything from a fight so he’s going to hold Tyr’s lessons close to him like he does with his great battles
I love how Norse Gods have tattoos like murals and they glow when in power. Almost like they were drawn in them as words with specific powers.
That’s because they were, in Norse mythology those “tattoos” are called runes and they were basically how you did magic, for example a warrior might pain the Urzu rune to gain increased strength or one might use the Isa rune to conjure ice.
I love they add the Japanese flute sound when Tyr drew out his katana. It's absolutely chilling
Shield and spear - Greek. Macuahuitl - Aztec. Khopesh - Egyptian. Nodachi - Japanese
Also after the first time u fight him, the vest he wears is Tyr’s armour set that h can get from GoW 2018
Man so big he hold Nodachi like tachi
And the Tachi is a very demanding weapon for its strength in the slicing motion at exposed defenses. A critical hit that is assuredly a mortal draw. Curved weapons even the Kopesh are dangerous at the slice, but the Tachi's design was made in consideration of available metal of the land.
Wait that's Nodachi?
@@kamurochoiswild I might be wrong, but based on the size of the handle it looks like it fits two hands as opposed to one, and has a long blade
@@pr1nce0fh3ll9 I'm not sure, maybe it's just an extra large katana to fit with Tyr's stature.
Love the little musical detail when he pulls out a weapon. You can hear music native to that culture mixed in to the back ground if you listen close.
Tyr pulling out that katana was Tyr's way of saying even he knows the saying "Omae wa mou shindeiru!"
Tyr deserves his own game.
Absolutely would love some kind of comic or something talking about and showing tyr going to each different Pantheon. I would assume that he would have been morally disgusted by the Aztecs. Human sacrifice was a poor even by the Romans and that was thousands of years before Norse.
I could see tyr even killing the Aztec gods
Yes please
I like how before the fights begin, you can hear a distinct sound that relates and represents the weapon Tyr uses, just listen to the Sound that occurs before the fight begins where Tyr uses the Katana.
tyr saying he wants to help kratos because he can reminds me of faye's saying
"a problem doesn't have to reach our doorstep to be our responsibility"
Seeing Tyr helping Kratos is amazing. And Tyr has so much respect for Kratos. And Kratos has mutual respect for Tyr.
Now that is a god of war. Odin was really disrespecting his name.
what do you mean by that?
Týr is really a cultured warrior of using weapons from other lands.
Love how each weapon he pulls out has a destinct tune from each pantheon
Tyr was always my favorite of the Norse Pantheon, so I was a bit worried when God of War was slated to tackle it.
Needless to say, they gave the God of Justice his dues.
You could say they did him justice
It's amazing that every time Tyr draws his weapons it plays an accompaniment instrument that represents the mythology. Freaking attetion to details.
I mean the fact that all we know is that Tyr was worshiped not only as a God of War (like 99% of all Norse Gods) but PRIMARILY as a God of Peace, makes this character study so fascinating. I hope the team responsible for creating him writes a book about their journey into discovering Tyr!
1:14 Weapon 1 : (Ancient Greek) Athena Goddes Of War Using Spear and Shield
3:09 Weapon 2 : (Ancient Aztec) Huitzilopochtli Deity Of War Using Macuahuitl
6:05 Weapon 3 : (Ancient Egypt) Sekhmet Goddes Of War Using Dual khopesh
9:05 Weapon 4 : (Japan) Hachiman Eight Banners Goddess of War Using Tachi (since it was bigger than katana from my perspective because tyr body makes it like Katana)
I don't know about the spear and shield being specifically Greek, especially since the spear and shield are weapons universally found across pretty much every culture.
@@jacobcox4565Spartans use Spears and shields, Kratos once said a spartan learns spears first, and tbh its what a lot of people associate spartans with.
@@The_sadboi-l8c Yeah, but every other civilization and culture also use spears and shields. The spear and shield combo isn't unique to Spartans.
@@jacobcox4565 yeah that is definitely true, but i think the reason for it being Ancient Greek is because most of the world know spartans with their spears and shields, like that one movie. (I forgot its name) and it makes more sense for it to be greek imo.
Athena is the god of strategy, right?
Týr is just built different, a being that is respected by many and loved by many more.
Most likely they are also mithologycal weapons. I don't know to whom does the greek, egiptian and japanese weapons could belong to, but since that macuahuitl produces fire, you could say it is Huitzilopochtli's weapon (Aztec god of war) , the Xiuhcoatl (Solar Serpent), which was a living weapon made with the body of a legendary fire serpent. He used to behead his sister, the moon goddess and his 400 brothers, the stars that made the southern constelations, who were plotting to kill their mother Coatlicue
Highly possible.
Greek: Achilles or Ares
Egypt: montu or seth
Japanese: susanoo-no-mikoto or Takeminakata
This whole DLC is like trauma therapy for Kratos. Seriously, some of the things Tyr says are exactly what therapists have told me during my trauma healing process.
In a good or bad way?
The mural at the end of 4 represented Tyr's adventures and this sequence of events perfectly replicates what he gained and learned through them teaching and helping kratos.
Something in how Tyr stops the final punch is intimidating as hell. Like all that time spent telling Kratos not to hold back was less about helping him overcome his demons than Tyr not wanting to just flat out curb stomp him straight to China.
if you listen closely when tyr pulls out each weapon you can hear music that comes from those different areas and i think that its so cool
Indeed
When I first saw him use the first and second weapons, my reaction was indeed surprised, but when he used two weapons from Egypt I immediately asked whether Tyr would use a weapon from Japanese mythology or something like a katana? And yeah, that's it
At that point I don't think it's a katana
It's bigger
Looks like a nodachi
I could be wrong but im just basing it for the size of the blade
@@lag00n54 to be fair, tyr is a big man. A regular katana would be too small
@@blitzm4nn511 hence it would not be a katana at that point
it would be like a Nodachi
which is looks like a katana but longer and bigger
and is a war blade basically
This video bring Tyr to my eyes...
You mean Týr's
Last time somebody got his name wrong was stabbed
@@Xenictent
Nah nah, he’s got a point.
@@TGHRIAN76
But in English it's written without stress m-
*stab*
WILL YOU EVER SHUT UP?!
@@TGHRIAN76Everyone in the comment is saying Tyr, it's not that serious.
I love how at the beginning of each encounter Týr is like "Behold, my stuff!"
Ragnarok gives me hope for something most people probably don't remember. In the run up to GW3, the lead dev talked about their plans for the game. They said that, in their storyboard, Kratos would have a son that would time travel, and together they would end up traveling outside of Greece to the lands of Norse mythology, and then Egypt. He said that Kratos, his son, and this other person from Egypt, that he alluded was Kratos' grandson, would end the cycle of destruction plaguing the gods, and in the end of it, they would be among the last gods standing. Then he said the epilogue would show all three of them as the three wise men, visiting an infant Christ at his birth to witness the new hope of man. Obviously, that never made it into GW3, they had to cut basically all of it and just keep it constrained to Greece. But God of War/4 made me think that they were still using the original notes, even after all these years, because Kratos DID have a time traveling son, who ended up being a god of the Norse pantheon.
And now, with Ragnarok and some of the things they've shown with Tyr, I'm starting to wonder if they're actually planning on going through with it, and we'll get one final game set in Egypt where we either play as or work with Kratos' grandson, presumably one of the gods of THAT pantheon. We may actually get to see the original planned epilogue after all. Especially with how much Kratos has changed and grown wiser, he certainly seems to be drifting into that kind of final shape as a character. It would certainly be one hell of a way to send off the series.
Have you noticed when Tyr has new weapons, the music itself also changes
God of War has THE BEST character development ever seen in the history of videogames
That subtle smile from Mimir at @15:36 says everything.
Its amazin how all start, sitting at a throne at the end of God of War and ending with same seat, but this time, as the God of Hope.
I love how as kratos is finding himself tyr is regaining himself he is for sure holding back but he has mostly been in meditation/rest in away since he has been freed these fights are also reminding him of who he is as by the fight with the katana he uses his armor and all his ruins are glowing as well as his eyes as if he has truly woken up after a very long slumber
No longer the god of war but hope.. the hope to be a good father and husband and god.. beautiful
Kratos family will be proud.
You can hear the music in the instrument or background music everytime Tyr pulls out his weapons from different Myths/Lands. Really love the minor details!
In the Japanese mythology there's Raijin(or Raiden), the Thunder God and Fujin, the Wind God. What if when Kratos go to the Japanese pantheon, the gods he meet is MK's Raiden and Fujin?
He already did , he was a dlc character in mk9 and is semi canon
@@jjjbgg5893 that's what I'm saying, they said Kratos' help against Shao Kahn will not be forgotten. Perhaps Atreus got into some troubles and Kratos goes to Japan and seek Raiden n Fujin for help
They were the only gods to treat Kratos with respect back then
Would love it if they did that. Having the MK versions of Raiden and Fujin come to back up Kratos against whatever god or myth monster he ends up facing would be a ton of fun.
Kratos is easily in the top three best gaming characters of all time after this. The writers at Santa Monica are just built different
This is foreshadowing future god of war Tyr is the only god to travel between other mythologies
We saw that he travelled to others in the 2018 game. We saw his treasure room with artifacts collected from those lands in the scene where Atreus wears an Egyptian helmet and Kratos finds the wine and a vase of himself from his Greek days.
I *RESPECT TYR SO MUCH!*
He just....a mentor...for kratos
The only one of _God (Of War)_ that teach kratos...to more...understanding
Kratos basically need bros to hear his story. Kratos has been suffer for long time
I love it how kratos posture changed. In his youth, it was like that of an arrogant man, waiting for a true challenge and now it looks like someone who is ready, ready to watch over others and his line" I want to sit here for a while" shows how rather than ruling and commanding from a throne, he would rather go to help.
Many forgot Kratos used already a weapon from another mythology in chains of olympus. He got Efreet from islamic mythology by persians. Would love a reference in a future game
Spear+shield, macuahuitle, katana, and dual khopesh.
Killer 🤘🏻
Anyone noticed that each of Tyr's weapons is a mirror of Kratos's Weapons?
Spear and Shield = Draupnir Spear
Macuahuitl = Leviathan Axe
Khopeshes = Blades of Chaos
Katana = Blade of Olympus
Out of all 4 of these weapons, the Khopeshs from Egypt seem to fit Tyr the most, to me at least. That Katana is obviously for Badassery and the Macuahuitl from the Aztec Mythos was an interesting choice of weapon Tyr has
Its also the weapons associated with their respective war deities. The Spear and Shield for both Tyr and Ares (since while Tyr's shield is marked with his own rune, its designed like a bronze Hoplon from Greece), the Khopesh for Egypt (who had different war deities at different times - its complicated), the Mahacuitl for Huitzilopochtli, and the Katana for Hachiman.
Love the handshake right at the end as Kratos helps him up every time.
I don't think we're going to have a sequel collection of Kratos' world travel. Instead, WERE GETTING A PREQUEL OF TYR!!!!!
Yeah, it will be GOD OF WAR: WORLD
@@phat3173 nah, it'll be GOW: voyage
Tyr: Beyond the Nine Realms
Nah it is going to be God of Boy
I loveee the respect the gods of war have for eachother , also love how tyr helped kratos accept his past and find a new path in life ! A new purpose
If you listen carefully, the music at the start of the battle with each weapon of every realm (Greek, Aztec, Egyptian, Japanese) is representing them
I found it fitting his macuahuitl weapon allows him to use something akin to Blood and Fire magic. The Aztecs were famous in their sacrifices and their worship of the sun. Not only that whenever he pulled a new one out there was a little musical herald from the culture he used.
Spartan finding peace in Valhalla is amazing to me still
Kratos goes to therapy dlc
My fav thing from the Tyr boss fight is the dialogue. He’s so encouraging to Kratos. Which is a first from a GOW Boss. My fav is when Kratos uses Fury and Tyr is like “Such Fury! Such Control “
Bro now i want Tyr's version of God of War story.
That might be fun!
if u listen closely to the beginning of each boss fight u'll hear music corresponding to each weapon that tyr uses. nice touch to hint at each weapons origin
I half expected to hear BURY THE LIIIIIIGHT DEEP WITHIIIIIIIN when the katana came out.
Now tyrs motivated
The bro Tyr is like that one online bro guiding you through the game
Another fact.
The Macuahuitl means in nahuatl language "Wood of/for the hand, or Wood hand"
From Maitl = Hand/Arm
And Cuahuitl = Tree/Wood
And yes, its the long of the distance from the fingers to the shoulder.
A wood like a bat or cricket bat, with sharp obsidian pieces .
Obsidian is the most sharpes thing in the world, but also so fragile.
Curious, isn't?
So powerful but so fragile as well.
In the case of Tyr's Macuahuitl i do not know for his size if he is using a one hand Macuahuitl (size from.the fingers to the shoulder) that usually use a Chimalli (Shield) in the other hand, or is a two hands Macuahuitl (bigger and from the fingers at your right to the heart) in your
Some say that the obsidian being fragile helped in battle since every time it breaks, it becomes sharper, and the shards would get stuck deeply in the enemy's flesh.