BAD..... especially THAT scene.... And the worst part is I read the first book as eBook and liked it.... So I BOUGHT the physical copy the Wise man's fear.... I get so mad everytime I look at it
Apparently I rated it 3 stars on Goodreads but it's definitely a 2 for me... Hated how it addressed almost nothing set up in the first book, and expanded the 'Gary Stu'ness of Kvothe to ridiculous levels via random side quests. Such a let down compared to the first book. It did make me laugh when you said something like 'I don't think we'll get all the answers in book 2', knowing what you were in for!
I went with mixed feelings into the second book. I was rapidly fed up with the School of Magic part, mostly because of the Denna relationship. At this point I was already afraid that Rothfuss would first throw us all these weird teenager insecurities, to later set up a male sex fantasy. Oh, boy, did I cringe with the fairy stuff. I couldn't believe it went for that long. It actually reminded me of Stephen King's It, because it was so unnecessary and just gross. It's masturbatory writing, it's cringe AF to read that stuff. I kind of liked the rendering of another culture. It did felt like a whole China-esque kung fu story with political intrigue throwed in. I usually like these scenario switches in fantasy books. But I also feel that this book is absolutely hindered by how imature it is about sex (and by how much of it ends being about it).
When an author realizes that the erotica they wrote based on their deepest sexual fantasies is unpublishable, they slip it into into their published work. Like 'how did that get in there? Oh well!' I feel like this happens weirdly often.
I love your reaction! I really hated the nosedive this book takes. I also couldn't help but hear/feel the author's voice during all the sex scenes and all the comments about women. It's like kvothe's voice disappeared and I could only hear Rothfuss. Made me question his sanity as well
14:53 old video, just my 2 cents A common theme throughout the series is Kvothe overcoming trauma, or not. The encounter with Felurian was a traumatic experience. An example of Rothfuss trying to communicate this is describing her as inherently predatory. Or Kvothe saying “I was a toy, a novelty, to be used and discarded”.
I laughed so hard when you were showing the chapter 95 timelapse 🤣 I remember encountering that scene and wanting to skip a chapter or two, and the whole book just fell for me. I skipped to the end couple chapters to see what happens and when he becomes "the best fighter" i was so done at that point i have dnf'd the series.
My ex made me read these books, and he got mad when I didn't like this one and forced me to give a good rating on Goodreads lol.. But now that you've refreshed my memory I'm gonna go give it the 1 star it deserves 😂
Omg Emily I have been waiting forever for this vlog just to get your reaction to the faerie section! Your reaction was priceless. I picked this book up in 2018 after having read Name of the Wind twice, only to get to the faerie scenes and immediately had to DNF. Like you I was getting increasingly bored with Kvothe’s adventure in the woods, and when we got to Felurian it was the last straw. If book 3 EVER releases I’ll go back and finish Wise Man’s Fear only because I gave the first book 4 stars and I want to know how it all ends.
For those who still have doubts that Kvothe is Patrick Rothfuss, I recommend reading the author's biography on Goodreads, specifically the paragraph where appears "skilled-lover". Enjoy!
@@BookswithEmilyFox The fourth paragraph: "For the next seven years Pat studied anthropology, philosophy, eastern religions, history, alchemy, parapsychology, literature, and writing. He studied six different martial arts, practiced improv comedy, learned how to pick locks, and became a skilled lover of women. He also began writing a satirical advice column which he continues to this day: The College Survivial Guide. Through all of this he continued to work on his novel". LOL. Before it was even worse, he has changed it. Before it was written in the first person, you could tell he had written it. Now they've made it sound as if someone else had written it.
I'm so sorry you had to live through Felurian (1000 year old horndog fairy). I have to admit that I was waiting eagerly for your reaction to the Felurian chapters, and was not disappointed. I laughed really hard! Oh my God, that section took too long. Fae world stuff: I will say that I thought the conversation with the Cthaey (snake spirit thing in tree) was interesting. I also liked that walking in one direction made time advance and walking the other direction makes time reverse. However, there was so much sex in this book that didn't need to be there. Just, argh. :P
Honestly, I felt like I had the wrong book when all the sex scenes started to appear. Literally have no idea where the story will go, but yeah - I forced myself to keep reading until the end, hoping that we'd go back to the magical school. At this point, I expect that the third one could range from a romantic comedy to a spaghetti western. lol
no, you should give it a try. I think wise man’s fear might be my favorite book. The Felurian scenes are fine and they go fast as most of it is to set up another plot point. These books changed my life, read them.
Listen, I knew you would hate this (I didn't read it after I heard about those 10 chapters) and yet I am so glad you vlogged this. Thanks for taking one for the team!
I appreciate the idea that rothfuss had to make him a realistic portrayal of a teenage boy, but absolutely, the constant pining over much older women was cringe. Also, spot on with the "not all men" comment, that was my exact thought when I heard it. I listened to the audiobook, so I couldn't see it coming, but when I heard the preceding section, I thought it might be a good character growth opportunity for him to realize that there were no words that could make the girls' situation better, but instead he uses his time to do no self reflection or growth so that he could be an asshole to two girls who had just been repeatedly assaulted sexually. Really great writing there, man.
I just recently finished the book, and I absolutely could have been watching a play by play of my own reactions. It was so frustrating the potential of this story, but instead being taken down a meandering, nonsensical journey. I was so bored. It sent me into such a reading slump, I wound up resenting Kvothe, the book and Patrick so much.
I also hated parts of book 2 with a passion, and don't care for how Denna is written. However, I don't think she's actually THE love interest (her) that future (present?) Kvothe is talking about. My theory is that it's Devi.
Firstly, THANK YOU for the warning. I will not be reading this now and regret buying it. lol... Secondly, this gives me the impression that Patrick Rothfuss was actually a fourteen year old boy living in his mom's basement when he wrote this book.
I really didn't like the sex scenes, specially with Felurian. It made me feel as if the fantasy genre was actually sexual fantasies of a teenager, like what the hell is that it is like a wet dream of a 15 years old GUY. However, in the Fae realm, everything else is important (some important parts about Kvothe, a hint about Iax, Fae's magic, Fae's lore and behaviour tendencies...). This book actually contains dozens of subtle and kind of hidden details that explain a lot of things that you understand as you're tying them, generally after some re-reads. There's a lot to get about the Amyr, Kvothe's roots, Ambrose's family and the future, Denna, the Chandrian, Iax, and a lot more.
The worst part for me is even though I hated both books...I want to read the third. I want to know how the train wreck ends. I have no faith it'll be good. But I need to know.
I did enjoy this the first time I read it, but I think I was still riding the wave of enjoyment from book 1. I remember liking it a lot less when I re-read it. I still like most of the first part, but yeah it really went off the rails. I do still really enjoy the novella with Auri though.
This is truly the Wise Man’s Fear review I have been waiting for. I have such mixed feelings on this series- I love certain aspects of it, but I really hated how nothing in the story was moved forward in the 2nd book, and the sex fairy stuff really just pushes it over the edge
This was hilarious 😂 I DNFed The Name of the Wind 100 pages in and I’m feeling pretty good about that decision lol. Seriously, this book sounds like a hot mess.
You can see in real time Emily's sanity dwindling the more chapters she reads. Fascinating, lmao. I was done with the series by book1 had a feeling it wasn't gonna go well after seeing how the women characters and quasi relationship was going and I'm a big character reader so yeah. I get trying to do the no good deed goes unpunished but it gets taken too far sometimes and it becomes *the thing* that the whole book revolves around. Excellent vlog! Enjoyed it immensely lol.
I've never been more glad about dnf'ing a book. I never reached that scene, I dnf'ed it halfway through because I was bored. I guess I didn't miss anything, haha.
I feel like, after hearing about the chapters long grape... any fan of that series isn't allowed to comment on Maas's books. I skim-read those scenes in her books(because they're weird), but she doesn't have *grape* in her books, and they don't involve children.
I thought most of the book was enjoyable. But any pages when he is with the fairy can be skipped. It does not add to the story and you won’t miss anything. Otherwise, I love the world.
Thank you so much for this! I was about a third into the book and nothing really happened so far, but like you I knew that controversial smut was gonna happen at SOME POINT and I just couldn't handle not knowing when to brace myself anymore. I didn't expect it to be that much though, listening to you literally gave me resentful goosebumps and when I checked the chapters you mentioned I yeeted the book away. I really loved the first book and I don't remember it going anywhere near anything sexual, wtf happened- Genuinely thinking about just recycling the book instead of donating it :')
I tried to read the first book in the series a while ago, but could not get into it for the life of me. I DNFd it eventually and never thought about it again. Seeing your video, not one drop of sadness about this decision was spent. :D There are so many other and better books out there for me to read.
Having listened to this book in Aug, 2022. I want to say I give it a 4/10. Maybe a 5 if I'm being lenient. I have listened up to the fairy parts. And am taking a break cause.... cringe. But I'm going to finish cause I've already sunk so many hours in. I agree with pretty much ever other comment on your video. So instead of repeating, I want to draw attention to writing that bugged me between this and the first book, that no one seems to gave mentioned yet. Rothfuss used the whole money thing waaayyyyyyyyy to much. Constantly having kvoth worry about money. Paying back Davy. Giving him some sort of solution before finding another reason to throw him into turmoil again. Time after time after time. Please tell me I'm not the only one that noticed. Borrow money. Pay back. Borrow. Pay back. Gamble gamble gamble. It was interesting at first then just took the story downhill for me. I do plan on finishing the vlog (stopped at ch. 106.) And perhaps editing my comment when I finish the book next week. But yea....
I want to read this. But i dont want spoilers. But do i really care. Imma read this book in 20 years when book 3 comes out... Idk what to do. Im so curious
@@BookswithEmilyFox yeah im listening and i dont mind the spoilers. Helps me wait for book 3 for sure ahhahaa its gonna have to be a great conclusion for me to read those 2000+ pages 😅 (cause no i have not read book 1 ether ahha) im on whee of time at the moment
You are way more tolerant than I am. I finished the first one and thought NOPE to the second book. Emily, just say no to the novella and the third one if it ever comes out. Don’t do it, just don’t do it, LOL.
yeah I've watched this without even having read the name of the wind, I will not rule out that I am going to read it, but I will not touch those books until book 3 is released AND gets better reviews xD
Yours is certainly a review different from most of the super-fan reviews I usually see, and it gave me a lot to think about. Thanks for that. A couple of things: He said the fairy he has sex with is not a human and can't be judged by human terms. He describes her as a Force of Nature, completely beyond morality and human standards, like judging a volcano for being full of lava, or gravity for killing people who fall off cliffs. That let me look past the crime. And at 19:30, you ask why his teacher is not worried about getting pregnant, but she states clearly that in their society, they don't believe that men have anything whatsoever to do with making a woman pregnant. I guess I got a different take from the books because I listened to both audiobooks back-to-back, and then again a year later when I noticed amazing references back and forth between both books that hint at the story's secrets and conclusion. I think you'll like Auri's story in The Slow Regard of Silent Things.
Okay I just googled about book three and I found this gem of a quote by Rothfuss: "I mean that’s what happens in any sort of realistic world, in any sort of realistic story with realistic characters." REALISTIC?? Is he really trying to say this book is REALISTIC?? Surely not after that hot mess of a second half?
I loved The Name of the Wind. It is one of my favourite books. I am currently working through Wise Mans Fear, and i say working through because, though the first quarter was great. That chapter that can be barely bothered to explain the journey on the Ship was like tripping over a tree root while on a pleasant walk. It really knocked me over. My rhythm just died. Its taking me a while to get back, and as such, I’ve taken a break to read something else. I also stopped watching your video at 9 minutes so as not to spoil anything. Sorry.
No worries, that's why I try to put the chapters on the screen! I felt the exact same with the rhythm. It gets worse... then a bit better... then WAY worse... than a bit better lol
Didn't the fairy say he's the best she's ever had? /eye roll for all eternity I understand the book is him telling his life story and probably embellishing some things but come tf on...
In the first book, before he begins telling the story, Kvothe says: he defeated all the Chandrian, has killed a King and seen an angel die. I am pretty sure that Denna is one of the Chandrian and is being killed by him. That’s why he somehow looses his powers… That’s so predictable honestly
@@BookswithEmilyFox That’s probably why it takes him so long to finish it 😂 Rothfuss has completely messed up with the second book and now he can’t fix it in the last
I DNF’d this 800 pages in because it was just atrocious. I really enjoyed book one and book two just made me so so angry. Feeling very validated by your review!! It was shockingly, shockingly bad. 100% same to all of this.
I read the first one and. Did. Not. Get. The. Hype. It was a super let down. A lot was promised and was not delivered. There are books where I feel that the authors are so in love with their main characters and wants us to be in love with him/her too. I feel like they are saying “look how cool and awesome this person is”, but it ends up being a lot of telling and not showing, so I end up disliking/hating the character. This one and Binti come to mind.
Haven't read the books yet but I feel like picking it up less😅 that the serie isn't finished is already a disadvantage but this adds to ir as well. Ps. Love your glasses 💚
I've had these books at home for way too many years and after this I feel like I'll never read them. Statutory r*pe is just not my thing, specially when normalizing it. What is this, Riverdale? So yeah, thanks so much for this video, you've saved me some hours I can now spend on reading other books.
i'm always surprised by the amount of 🍇scenes that are in fantasy but then i think of all the books i've read written by female authors saying the female characters enjoy grapes (or it's not grape because he's hot!) and then this seems slightly less offensive ... anyway using the word grape greatly increased my enjoyment hearing about this book 😂
I love watching your vlogs for books I have never and will never read cuz I get all the tea with none of the pain lmfaooo like yeah screw Kvothe! Who is he?? beats me! 😂
I laughed when you said "I can deal with learning to fight, no more sex please." This definitely felt like self-insert for the author specifically. It's one thing to make a self-insert for your audience, but author self-insert is where I draw the line 😂
Having watched your review of this book, I would strongly recommend you remove from your "want to read" list 'All the Ugly and Wonderful Things'. I have this book on my shelves, and I am probably never going to read it.
Hmmmm. Romeo and Juliet were both children. Don't usually hear people becoming outraged over that. Different time, different culture, different standards I guess.
I'm revisiting this book now and the first thing I googled was "Wise Man's Fear Cringe". I read this book so many years ago and as a younger man I remember really enjoying it and having absolutely no problem with the sex sequences. I probably enjoyed them as many younger men probably do. As an adult they are truly cringey which is quite unfortunate. It was hard to watch you read this book and with every chapter watching you try to anticipate when and where you were going to hate the book. It's an undeniably great book not from a personal opinion but more in the titanic amount of volumes sold and how widely beloved it is by many. The reason I read it again is I struck up a conversation with a girl at work who was reading fantasy and she reccomended I read PR's series, I told her I had in the past but was willing to revisit it. If someone told me to hate-read the book though, I don't think I'd have any desire to read it. Especially a book this long. Fantasy books of this sort obviously don't take place in an actual time and place but generally situate themselves in an era where women were essentially second class citizens if not slaves. I don't necessarily get down on the author for not being socially/politically conscious about women's rights. It's like reading "Roots" and calling out the author's egregious bigotry. He's 16 years old having magical intercourse with an ancient fairy lady. I mean Mary had a suprise non-consensual baby with magical man in the sky, and she was only 13 years old. These are just fantasy stories, I'm not exactly ready to claim all my christian friends are grapist peds. I'm definitely surprised that the caliber of his writing wasn't nearly as good as I remembered it but while cringing my way through so many chapters its still pretty good. Since then I read so many more Sanderson fantasy books and am now really impressed at his writing abililty. However, his relationships are real cringey as well. Funny enough I just read "house of myrth" by Edith Warton which is an incredible book by a pulizter prize winning author, but I couldn't stop cringing over how she wrote her male lead Lawrence Selden. I guess author's often just struggle when it comes to translating the inner workings and complexity of the opposite sex. Denna is very annoying.
My wife wanted me to check out your reviews because she said we like the same genre of books. Clearly we saw way different things in the Rothfuss books. Beyond never finishing the last book which is crap, I found them both interesting and engaging on a lot of levels. I mean, he is no Terry Mancour or Michael Sullivan but he is pretty damn close. I don’t really get hung up on gender or sexist issues or other things that seem to impact you in your book reading. Hopefully we can both find fantasy books to enjoy because I find it dang hard to find good ones!!
Great video! I have to say, I find this author to be annoying AF. I am still trying to get through book one, which I absolutely will do, but I’m not going to bother with Wise Man’s Fear. It sounds too cringey for words!
I don't see how anyone even made it to the second book. I couldn't stand the rambing of the first. But I had a good laugh at the description of the second
I heard from reviews that this book was horrible and thought it couldn't be that bad. But holy how after hearing your detailed review, the book juat sounds like garbage 🤦♂️
@@BookswithEmilyFox Funnily enough I have never read a Sarah J Mass book. LOL I've never even felt drawn to them. Faeporn and faegrapes are not for me.
I was loving the book until we get to the sex scenes. It was… like really? Like c’mon. I wasn’t as upset about the Adem was, but the teacher sex felt very cheap and forced. Like there’s no reason he had to do it with his teacher. I was super interested into Ademic culture, but Rothfuss just heavily sexualized and then exoticized a depiction of a non western culture.
Did you read this book? What's your review?
Horrible
BAD..... especially THAT scene.... And the worst part is I read the first book as eBook and liked it.... So I BOUGHT the physical copy the Wise man's fear.... I get so mad everytime I look at it
All I remember is that faery. And i'm still shock and annoyed
Apparently I rated it 3 stars on Goodreads but it's definitely a 2 for me... Hated how it addressed almost nothing set up in the first book, and expanded the 'Gary Stu'ness of Kvothe to ridiculous levels via random side quests. Such a let down compared to the first book. It did make me laugh when you said something like 'I don't think we'll get all the answers in book 2', knowing what you were in for!
I went with mixed feelings into the second book. I was rapidly fed up with the School of Magic part, mostly because of the Denna relationship. At this point I was already afraid that Rothfuss would first throw us all these weird teenager insecurities, to later set up a male sex fantasy. Oh, boy, did I cringe with the fairy stuff. I couldn't believe it went for that long. It actually reminded me of Stephen King's It, because it was so unnecessary and just gross. It's masturbatory writing, it's cringe AF to read that stuff.
I kind of liked the rendering of another culture. It did felt like a whole China-esque kung fu story with political intrigue throwed in. I usually like these scenario switches in fantasy books. But I also feel that this book is absolutely hindered by how imature it is about sex (and by how much of it ends being about it).
Kvothe: "nOt AlL mEn..."
Sexy sexy sex machine 🤪
Lol is this a response to ur own comment 😂
Sometimes you have to be your biggest supporter 💁♀️
Ugh, I totally missed that. Just... no.
OMG! “I can just see people running out from their basement to tell me it’s fiction..” LOL! 😂😂
I had to laugh so hard at the "This is the scene??" and I mumbled to myself: Just wait, it'll get WORSE.
When an author realizes that the erotica they wrote based on their deepest sexual fantasies is unpublishable, they slip it into into their published work. Like 'how did that get in there? Oh well!' I feel like this happens weirdly often.
That... explains a lot lol
I hope Peter V. Brett is taking notes right now! 🤢🤮
Oh no I have one of his books on my shelf I haven't tried yet :/
Male authors don’t know how to incorporate sex scenes organically AT ALL
I love your reaction! I really hated the nosedive this book takes. I also couldn't help but hear/feel the author's voice during all the sex scenes and all the comments about women. It's like kvothe's voice disappeared and I could only hear Rothfuss. Made me question his sanity as well
FINALLY!!! I've been waiting for this since foreverrrrr, can't wait to see the video😁
I love novela about Auri. It's strange, poetic, but it has something to it.
Yep, I love that one. Auri's story is special.
14:53 old video, just my 2 cents
A common theme throughout the series is Kvothe overcoming trauma, or not. The encounter with Felurian was a traumatic experience.
An example of Rothfuss trying to communicate this is describing her as inherently predatory. Or Kvothe saying “I was a toy, a novelty, to be used and discarded”.
I laughed so hard when you were showing the chapter 95 timelapse 🤣 I remember encountering that scene and wanting to skip a chapter or two, and the whole book just fell for me. I skipped to the end couple chapters to see what happens and when he becomes "the best fighter" i was so done at that point i have dnf'd the series.
10 chapters of that 💩!!!
As soon as he had sex with the waistress I was mentally done…
My ex made me read these books, and he got mad when I didn't like this one and forced me to give a good rating on Goodreads lol.. But now that you've refreshed my memory I'm gonna go give it the 1 star it deserves 😂
I’m so happy he’s an “ex” 👍
Your ex named Patrick?
@@EddaPascher
I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣 👏👏👏
what I am hearing is this was a 1 star man
@@amivanzyl8876 Nice one 😂
THANK GOODNESS!!! I felt crazy reading/seeing all of these wonderful reviews
"new day, same complaint" 😂
This has become one of those books/series that when a guy tells me it's their favorite, I'm like, "Oh, no. Let's not."
Omg Emily I have been waiting forever for this vlog just to get your reaction to the faerie section! Your reaction was priceless. I picked this book up in 2018 after having read Name of the Wind twice, only to get to the faerie scenes and immediately had to DNF. Like you I was getting increasingly bored with Kvothe’s adventure in the woods, and when we got to Felurian it was the last straw. If book 3 EVER releases I’ll go back and finish Wise Man’s Fear only because I gave the first book 4 stars and I want to know how it all ends.
For those who still have doubts that Kvothe is Patrick Rothfuss, I recommend reading the author's biography on Goodreads, specifically the paragraph where appears "skilled-lover". Enjoy!
Where? I tried looking it up and saw that he’s apparently the “advisors for the college feminists”… which is worrying enough lol
@@BookswithEmilyFox The fourth paragraph: "For the next seven years Pat studied anthropology, philosophy, eastern religions, history, alchemy, parapsychology, literature, and writing. He studied six different martial arts, practiced improv comedy, learned how to pick locks, and became a skilled lover of women. He also began writing a satirical advice column which he continues to this day: The College Survivial Guide. Through all of this he continued to work on his novel". LOL.
Before it was even worse, he has changed it. Before it was written in the first person, you could tell he had written it. Now they've made it sound as if someone else had written it.
OMG my eyes literally skipped over that XD
I'm so sorry you had to live through Felurian (1000 year old horndog fairy). I have to admit that I was waiting eagerly for your reaction to the Felurian chapters, and was not disappointed. I laughed really hard! Oh my God, that section took too long.
Fae world stuff: I will say that I thought the conversation with the Cthaey (snake spirit thing in tree) was interesting. I also liked that walking in one direction made time advance and walking the other direction makes time reverse. However, there was so much sex in this book that didn't need to be there. Just, argh. :P
Honestly, I felt like I had the wrong book when all the sex scenes started to appear. Literally have no idea where the story will go, but yeah - I forced myself to keep reading until the end, hoping that we'd go back to the magical school. At this point, I expect that the third one could range from a romantic comedy to a spaghetti western. lol
I was having a really bad day but it just got a whole lot better 😁😁
Thank you for warn us on this. If I wanted to start reading this book, now for me it's better to pick up another one!
Yeah alright you’ve convinced me. I’m not gonna bother starting this series.
no, you should give it a try. I think wise man’s fear might be my favorite book. The Felurian scenes are fine and they go fast as most of it is to set up another plot point.
These books changed my life, read them.
Listen, I knew you would hate this (I didn't read it after I heard about those 10 chapters) and yet I am so glad you vlogged this. Thanks for taking one for the team!
Lmao, You would have a heart attack reading A Song of Ice and Fire 🤣 I love this book. I’m shocked at all the negative discourse around it.
I appreciate the idea that rothfuss had to make him a realistic portrayal of a teenage boy, but absolutely, the constant pining over much older women was cringe. Also, spot on with the "not all men" comment, that was my exact thought when I heard it. I listened to the audiobook, so I couldn't see it coming, but when I heard the preceding section, I thought it might be a good character growth opportunity for him to realize that there were no words that could make the girls' situation better, but instead he uses his time to do no self reflection or growth so that he could be an asshole to two girls who had just been repeatedly assaulted sexually. Really great writing there, man.
I just recently finished the book, and I absolutely could have been watching a play by play of my own reactions. It was so frustrating the potential of this story, but instead being taken down a meandering, nonsensical journey. I was so bored. It sent me into such a reading slump, I wound up resenting Kvothe, the book and Patrick so much.
I also hated parts of book 2 with a passion, and don't care for how Denna is written. However, I don't think she's actually THE love interest (her) that future (present?) Kvothe is talking about. My theory is that it's Devi.
That would be much better!
Devi deserves better tho../
I loved the book and the series as a whole.
One of my theory is that Ambrose becomes king some how and Kvoth kills him.
Firstly, THANK YOU for the warning. I will not be reading this now and regret buying it. lol... Secondly, this gives me the impression that Patrick Rothfuss was actually a fourteen year old boy living in his mom's basement when he wrote this book.
LOL your reaction about the fairy chapters is exactly what mine was 🙃
I really didn't like the sex scenes, specially with Felurian. It made me feel as if the fantasy genre was actually sexual fantasies of a teenager, like what the hell is that it is like a wet dream of a 15 years old GUY. However, in the Fae realm, everything else is important (some important parts about Kvothe, a hint about Iax, Fae's magic, Fae's lore and behaviour tendencies...). This book actually contains dozens of subtle and kind of hidden details that explain a lot of things that you understand as you're tying them, generally after some re-reads. There's a lot to get about the Amyr, Kvothe's roots, Ambrose's family and the future, Denna, the Chandrian, Iax, and a lot more.
Hearing these names again for the first time in years is reminding how much this book and series annoyed me. Maybe I will skip book 3 in the year 4730
If it comes out in 2000 years haha
The worst part for me is even though I hated both books...I want to read the third. I want to know how the train wreck ends. I have no faith it'll be good. But I need to know.
We need closure... but sometimes, the disrespect is closure 🤪
@@BookswithEmilyFox Ayo applies to my love life just as well 🤣
I did enjoy this the first time I read it, but I think I was still riding the wave of enjoyment from book 1. I remember liking it a lot less when I re-read it. I still like most of the first part, but yeah it really went off the rails. I do still really enjoy the novella with Auri though.
This is truly the Wise Man’s Fear review I have been waiting for. I have such mixed feelings on this series- I love certain aspects of it, but I really hated how nothing in the story was moved forward in the 2nd book, and the sex fairy stuff really just pushes it over the edge
Yes. Yesss. I couldn't stand the second one even though I liked the first well enough. Time to get some coffee and enjoy this! ♥
This was hilarious 😂 I DNFed The Name of the Wind 100 pages in and I’m feeling pretty good about that decision lol. Seriously, this book sounds like a hot mess.
I could not love this review more. It cracked me up. It made me snort laugh. It made me cheer. Bravo! (And I agree entirely).
You can see in real time Emily's sanity dwindling the more chapters she reads. Fascinating, lmao. I was done with the series by book1 had a feeling it wasn't gonna go well after seeing how the women characters and quasi relationship was going and I'm a big character reader so yeah.
I get trying to do the no good deed goes unpunished but it gets taken too far sometimes and it becomes *the thing* that the whole book revolves around.
Excellent vlog! Enjoyed it immensely lol.
I've never been more glad about dnf'ing a book. I never reached that scene, I dnf'ed it halfway through because I was bored. I guess I didn't miss anything, haha.
I feel like, after hearing about the chapters long grape... any fan of that series isn't allowed to comment on Maas's books. I skim-read those scenes in her books(because they're weird), but she doesn't have *grape* in her books, and they don't involve children.
Unrelated to the book but what colour lipstick are you wearing? :)
Emily, I love your glasses! Would you be able to share where you got your frames and which models they are?
The part of the evil Tree prophecy is suppose to be super important
I thought most of the book was enjoyable. But any pages when he is with the fairy can be skipped. It does not add to the story and you won’t miss anything. Otherwise, I love the world.
Same ! I still love the series even though those chapters were trash
Thank you so much for this! I was about a third into the book and nothing really happened so far, but like you I knew that controversial smut was gonna happen at SOME POINT and I just couldn't handle not knowing when to brace myself anymore.
I didn't expect it to be that much though, listening to you literally gave me resentful goosebumps and when I checked the chapters you mentioned I yeeted the book away. I really loved the first book and I don't remember it going anywhere near anything sexual, wtf happened-
Genuinely thinking about just recycling the book instead of donating it :')
Thank you for this. Had I read this I would have had no one to scream at lol - I would have lost friends. Hahahaha
The only good part about reading a bad book with booktube is knowing you’ll be able to complain to everyone about it!!
The review is spot on how I felt. I will not buy his third book and doubt I will read anything from him again. It left such bitter taste in my mouth.
I remember picking up this series based on a booktubers recommendation. I still hold a little resentment because of it.
I tried to read the first book in the series a while ago, but could not get into it for the life of me. I DNFd it eventually and never thought about it again. Seeing your video, not one drop of sadness about this decision was spent. :D There are so many other and better books out there for me to read.
How many smut books have this many chapters? Patrick really missed an opportunity to do something special with chapter 69.
So Much GRAPE!!
I understand you! I felt the same!
Having listened to this book in Aug, 2022. I want to say I give it a 4/10. Maybe a 5 if I'm being lenient. I have listened up to the fairy parts. And am taking a break cause.... cringe. But I'm going to finish cause I've already sunk so many hours in. I agree with pretty much ever other comment on your video. So instead of repeating, I want to draw attention to writing that bugged me between this and the first book, that no one seems to gave mentioned yet. Rothfuss used the whole money thing waaayyyyyyyyy to much. Constantly having kvoth worry about money. Paying back Davy. Giving him some sort of solution before finding another reason to throw him into turmoil again. Time after time after time. Please tell me I'm not the only one that noticed. Borrow money. Pay back. Borrow. Pay back. Gamble gamble gamble. It was interesting at first then just took the story downhill for me. I do plan on finishing the vlog (stopped at ch. 106.) And perhaps editing my comment when I finish the book next week. But yea....
I want to read this. But i dont want spoilers. But do i really care. Imma read this book in 20 years when book 3 comes out...
Idk what to do. Im so curious
Well I don’t spoil everything that happens.. but you’ll learn a lot about the scenes I hated lol
@@BookswithEmilyFox yeah im listening and i dont mind the spoilers. Helps me wait for book 3 for sure ahhahaa its gonna have to be a great conclusion for me to read those 2000+ pages 😅 (cause no i have not read book 1 ether ahha) im on whee of time at the moment
i loved the book
You are way more tolerant than I am. I finished the first one and thought NOPE to the second book. Emily, just say no to the novella and the third one if it ever comes out. Don’t do it, just don’t do it, LOL.
I wish I DNF'd The Name of the Wind at the dragon. Forced my way through the last 200 pages only to learn book two was faerie corn. :/
“It’s not that serious but it was for me... at the time.” I love that. 😂 I loved this book but I bleeped those fairy scenes from my brain. Oop.
Okay I’ve been wanted to start the name of the wind but based on this video that will not be happening.
yeah I've watched this without even having read the name of the wind, I will not rule out that I am going to read it, but I will not touch those books until book 3 is released AND gets better reviews xD
Yours is certainly a review different from most of the super-fan reviews I usually see, and it gave me a lot to think about. Thanks for that.
A couple of things:
He said the fairy he has sex with is not a human and can't be judged by human terms. He describes her as a Force of Nature, completely beyond morality and human standards, like judging a volcano for being full of lava, or gravity for killing people who fall off cliffs. That let me look past the crime.
And at 19:30, you ask why his teacher is not worried about getting pregnant, but she states clearly that in their society, they don't believe that men have anything whatsoever to do with making a woman pregnant.
I guess I got a different take from the books because I listened to both audiobooks back-to-back, and then again a year later when I noticed amazing references back and forth between both books that hint at the story's secrets and conclusion.
I think you'll like Auri's story in The Slow Regard of Silent Things.
The be pregnant thing is definitely addressed later. The fairy thing tho… it’s still creepy and didn’t need to be 10 chapters long lol
Okay I just googled about book three and I found this gem of a quote by Rothfuss: "I mean that’s what happens in any sort of realistic world, in any sort of realistic story with realistic characters." REALISTIC?? Is he really trying to say this book is REALISTIC?? Surely not after that hot mess of a second half?
I loved The Name of the Wind. It is one of my favourite books. I am currently working through Wise Mans Fear, and i say working through because, though the first quarter was great. That chapter that can be barely bothered to explain the journey on the Ship was like tripping over a tree root while on a pleasant walk. It really knocked me over. My rhythm just died. Its taking me a while to get back, and as such, I’ve taken a break to read something else. I also stopped watching your video at 9 minutes so as not to spoil anything. Sorry.
No worries, that's why I try to put the chapters on the screen! I felt the exact same with the rhythm. It gets worse... then a bit better... then WAY worse... than a bit better lol
without the context of youtube censoring, you'd think this was a book about wine making given the "grape" mentions :p
Kingkiller Chronicle it's a super interesting, super creative, incredibly narrated epic fantasy world where I'm TRAPPED WITH KVOTHE DEAR GOD
Didn't the fairy say he's the best she's ever had? /eye roll for all eternity
I understand the book is him telling his life story and probably embellishing some things but come tf on...
Listen, you just have to accept that Patrick… I mean Kvothe is that good in bed!!
In the first book, before he begins telling the story, Kvothe says: he defeated all the Chandrian, has killed a King and seen an angel die. I am pretty sure that Denna is one of the Chandrian and is being killed by him. That’s why he somehow looses his powers… That’s so predictable honestly
How is all of that going to happen in one book?! It makes no sense
@@BookswithEmilyFox That’s probably why it takes him so long to finish it 😂 Rothfuss has completely messed up with the second book and now he can’t fix it in the last
Kvothe only killed killed cinder
I DNF’d this 800 pages in because it was just atrocious. I really enjoyed book one and book two just made me so so angry. Feeling very validated by your review!! It was shockingly, shockingly bad. 100% same to all of this.
I read the first one and. Did. Not. Get. The. Hype. It was a super let down. A lot was promised and was not delivered. There are books where I feel that the authors are so in love with their main characters and wants us to be in love with him/her too. I feel like they are saying “look how cool and awesome this person is”, but it ends up being a lot of telling and not showing, so I end up disliking/hating the character. This one and Binti come to mind.
Has no one told her to fix the title yet?
Haven't read the books yet but I feel like picking it up less😅 that the serie isn't finished is already a disadvantage but this adds to ir as well.
Ps. Love your glasses 💚
Not a huge fantasy reader and I am glad I am not reading this, but your reactions crack me up...lol.
I've had these books at home for way too many years and after this I feel like I'll never read them. Statutory r*pe is just not my thing, specially when normalizing it. What is this, Riverdale? So yeah, thanks so much for this video, you've saved me some hours I can now spend on reading other books.
i'm always surprised by the amount of 🍇scenes that are in fantasy but then i think of all the books i've read written by female authors saying the female characters enjoy grapes (or it's not grape because he's hot!) and then this seems slightly less offensive ... anyway using the word grape greatly increased my enjoyment hearing about this book 😂
I love watching your vlogs for books I have never and will never read cuz I get all the tea with none of the pain lmfaooo like yeah screw Kvothe! Who is he?? beats me! 😂
read and loved name of the wind but i will not read this book until the third one comes out sooooooo never 🥴
I like how we’ve collectively decided it’s not going to happen 😂
There should be a pool going on for what's more likely to come out first, Doors of Stone or Winds of Winter.
Spoiler: no one wins
You reminds me to myself reading it almost a decade ago when it was a new book. I had simmular reactions as i was progressing.
I laughed when you said "I can deal with learning to fight, no more sex please." This definitely felt like self-insert for the author specifically. It's one thing to make a self-insert for your audience, but author self-insert is where I draw the line 😂
Having watched your review of this book, I would strongly recommend you remove from your "want to read" list 'All the Ugly and Wonderful Things'.
I have this book on my shelves, and I am probably never going to read it.
Me watching you talk about the faerie scene: oh it gets much worse!
Reviews like this really shows the contrast of what we value as readers.
Hmmmm. Romeo and Juliet were both children. Don't usually hear people becoming outraged over that. Different time, different culture, different standards I guess.
The chapter 95 timelapse captures that section perfectly
I hated the first book already. :D
I *hated* THAT scene in Wise Man's Fear- it was cringey, awkward and gross!
I'm revisiting this book now and the first thing I googled was "Wise Man's Fear Cringe". I read this book so many years ago and as a younger man I remember really enjoying it and having absolutely no problem with the sex sequences. I probably enjoyed them as many younger men probably do. As an adult they are truly cringey which is quite unfortunate. It was hard to watch you read this book and with every chapter watching you try to anticipate when and where you were going to hate the book. It's an undeniably great book not from a personal opinion but more in the titanic amount of volumes sold and how widely beloved it is by many. The reason I read it again is I struck up a conversation with a girl at work who was reading fantasy and she reccomended I read PR's series, I told her I had in the past but was willing to revisit it. If someone told me to hate-read the book though, I don't think I'd have any desire to read it. Especially a book this long. Fantasy books of this sort obviously don't take place in an actual time and place but generally situate themselves in an era where women were essentially second class citizens if not slaves. I don't necessarily get down on the author for not being socially/politically conscious about women's rights. It's like reading "Roots" and calling out the author's egregious bigotry. He's 16 years old having magical intercourse with an ancient fairy lady. I mean Mary had a suprise non-consensual baby with magical man in the sky, and she was only 13 years old. These are just fantasy stories, I'm not exactly ready to claim all my christian friends are grapist peds. I'm definitely surprised that the caliber of his writing wasn't nearly as good as I remembered it but while cringing my way through so many chapters its still pretty good. Since then I read so many more Sanderson fantasy books and am now really impressed at his writing abililty. However, his relationships are real cringey as well. Funny enough I just read "house of myrth" by Edith Warton which is an incredible book by a pulizter prize winning author, but I couldn't stop cringing over how she wrote her male lead Lawrence Selden. I guess author's often just struggle when it comes to translating the inner workings and complexity of the opposite sex. Denna is very annoying.
Side quest boring yes
My wife wanted me to check out your reviews because she said we like the same genre of books. Clearly we saw way different things in the Rothfuss books. Beyond never finishing the last book which is crap, I found them both interesting and engaging on a lot of levels. I mean, he is no Terry Mancour or Michael Sullivan but he is pretty damn close. I don’t really get hung up on gender or sexist issues or other things that seem to impact you in your book reading. Hopefully we can both find fantasy books to enjoy because I find it dang hard to find good ones!!
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Seriously i do not have any intension to continue if he bangs every girl he meets! No!
He is the Stephen King of Fantasy.. 😂
Great video! I have to say, I find this author to be annoying AF. I am still trying to get through book one, which I absolutely will do, but I’m not going to bother with Wise Man’s Fear. It sounds too cringey for words!
I don't see how anyone even made it to the second book. I couldn't stand the rambing of the first. But I had a good laugh at the description of the second
book one was already extremely boring
For some reason I think you won’t like Witcher series
Yes i do not like that books too!
You might be in need of a therapist.
I heard from reviews that this book was horrible and thought it couldn't be that bad. But holy how after hearing your detailed review, the book juat sounds like garbage 🤦♂️
Sounds like a wierdly disjointed book! Having relations with a fae? Is this porn rebadged??
Sarah J Mass has competition now
@@BookswithEmilyFox Funnily enough I have never read a Sarah J Mass book. LOL I've never even felt drawn to them. Faeporn and faegrapes are not for me.
I was loving the book until we get to the sex scenes. It was… like really? Like c’mon. I wasn’t as upset about the Adem was, but the teacher sex felt very cheap and forced. Like there’s no reason he had to do it with his teacher.
I was super interested into Ademic culture, but Rothfuss just heavily sexualized and then exoticized a depiction of a non western culture.