Hi guys! I'm back again with some Tekken music. Tekken 3 is very dear to me, hence why the video is so long this time. Or maybe it's because of all the different track versions, who knows... I hope you guys enjoy watching as much as I did creating! More "Is The Music Good" is coming soon, along with a few shorter video ideas. Stay tuned! :)
Fun fact: The arcade music is actually dynamic with sections changing in each round. That effect is absent on the PS1 and emulated version on Tekken 5.
Xiaoyu's PS1 theme is memorable for me due to how well the music fits her stage. I'm no music critique, but the instruments used give me the impression of an intense festive carnival performance, and the music overall invites excitement, adrenaline, and joy to anyone who watches it. Just by listening to it, you're listening to Xiaoyu's passion for high-octane entertainment.
Tekken 3 is very special to me on several different levels, it fascinated me when I first saw it, it was the very first fighting game I've ever seen/played which started my absolute obsession with fighting game/game development and since I was starting to learn music at around the same time I was introduced to fighting games, I'd always be paying an extra amount of attention to music and sound in those games, Tekken 3's soundtrack to this day remains my favorite soundtrack for those reasons.
Is the music good?! Bro not only is it the best in the franchise, it belongs in a museum i listen to it to this day its so well put toghether its ridiculous and there is no better workout music. One of the best soundtracks in a video game ever. Tekken 2 has some great bangers as well.
The opening movie theme is definately the classic one for me that i listen to every now and then for nostalgiahype. Nina and Eddie also very memorable.
I actually always prefered the ps1 version of Yoshi's theme even to the point of remembering the very first time when I listened to it when I was a kid. I remember the time of the day and how my room looked during that evening. It's my favorite Tekken theme of all time and yeah it's less atmospheric than the arcade version but it suits Yoshimitsu's crazy fighting style much more imho.
Loved every second of the video. Here are my top 5 favourite tracks: Julia's theme Brian's theme Paul's theme Lei's theme Nina's theme I agree that many tracks have a long buildup and they're maybe not that diegetic for a fighting game, but are amazing to listen to in any other contest
Omg yes!! Thank you for all the hard work making this, this is probably my top 3 OST of all time. My favourite track is Julia's, with Hidden Characters as a close second
I've never really seen Heihachi as a sub-boss, so everytime I hear his arcade theme the only thing that rings on my mind is that his theme and Jin's are parallels with each other. Both have a very similar guitar riff and also both have a emergency vehicle-esque noise. Jin's sounds like the police have arrived, and Heihachi's sound like his police just got called and are on the way to give him armed support.
Great video as always I always look forward to these soundtrack breakdowns. Interesting note on Gon though, Gon is actually a manga character so getting a license to keep him in future games was just not in the cards. Also I would absolutely love to see more Tekken vids from you
Thank you so much! Music is very big in my life obviously, so I love looking back at soundtracks that shaped me since I was little :) Oh I‘m aware of Gon‘s origins, but it still hurts me that they couldn‘t make another deal happen for whatever reason… I appreciate it, I‘d like to branch out into smaller video essays on other aspects of the games, such as lore, creation of the game etc. while still making in-depth music analysis videos of course!
I would be highly interested in you covering other topics about Tekken 3 too while also still keeping this series as im a big music nerd and producer myself :D Keep them coming man!
Tekken 3 is THEE 2nd best soundtrack in the series. Super nostalgic and was my introduction to love of game music. First time I Fought Heihachi I paused the game, turn the tv all the way up and rocked out. Great OST but....... TEKKEN TAG 1 OST IS THE G.O.A.T!!!
I'm here for it. Great job on this series man. Tekken needs to be recognized for how much work they put into their soundtracks. They barley ever just sound like white noise for a fighting game. They stand out like no other fighting game music.@@dinosulic101
@@dinosulic101 Enjoy your time! Of all the games in the series, D1 has the best atmosphere overall IMO, though D2 is pretty good in that regard too. Looking forward to your take on the music!
Same exact feeling for the Forrest Law PS1 vs arcade. It was a cool idea the arcade tried, but the PS1 version feels like an amazing moment where the song of the dragon shows he isn't just law by name.it feels like THE track that anyone in love with Bruce lees story would train and fight to. I used to listen to this song a lot, every time I played as law or any other Bruce lee type fighting character, before they took it off Spotify. Even at the gym, It was one of my most listened to training songs. It just screamed being the best you no matter what, being like water, mastering the art of dying, which the law characters in fighting SEEMED to embody. . . Unlike the character himself unfortunately
The "Continue" music works for me. It lets your blood boil just a little bit as you fish for two more quarters from your pocket. Makes me wanna kick Ogre's teeth in. It feels like "I'm down, but I'm far from out."
Part of why I like Eddy's theme way better in the ps1 version is because it just feels like Eddy Gordo, like capoeira. The arcade version sounds more fitting for his stage rather than his character and playstyle, and while that's good, a character theme is obviously way more likeable when you know, it's more about the character, not the stage. Also King's arcade theme rocks, still one of my favorite tekken soundtracks ever made. 31:00 you're not the only one, his track in tekken 2 fits him better. 57:15 I think that this is exactly what they were going for, tekken 3 was the start of a new generation of fighting, a new beginning, even the canonical ending of the game has jin flying away from ogre's temple, having not yet killed heihachi, basically it's more of a teaser for future developments rather than a true ending, it's only fitting for the staff roll theme to not close the game, but hype you up for what's next. This is also why I think that you'll really enjoy tag 1's credits theme, as it truly encapsulates the feeling of a goodbye, or the end of an era. Also, I see that you do seem to really like Azazel's theme from tekken 6, which is something that I can't fault you for, Keiichi Okabe is a musical genius.
It's so bizarre to me how everyone I've seen speak on it prefers the arcade version of King's theme over the arrange. Iunno man, the intro, the drums, the way the the lead comes in with the cool additional synthwork on top... MAN I love it. The guitar sample FINALLY kicking in is so dope, cathartic even. I like arcade's chiller vibe but I feel like it doesn't do enough to hold my interest and I don't vibe with a lot of the synth choices there. I don't rock with how arcade handles the synth riff both tracks share. I will say I definitely got into Tekken later on and definitely prefer my music aggressive and maximalist (7's probably my favorite Tekken OST maybe? Def up there with 3 but for wildly different nerdy music producer reasons) so I'm biased lmao. Whatever, great vid!
So something that alot of people dont know that some of the electric guitar you are hearing are actually samples from other famous songs and also Lei Wulong’s BGM is also shared with CVS2 stage the arena…i just found this out recently
Hey, as fellow Tekken 3 fan, I absolutely respect the effort you've put into making this video, and shining some spotlight onto this iconic soundtrack. However, as I fellow music enthusiast, I can't say I've enjoyed your breakdown and critique of the pieces. It kinda got under my skin at some points haha. The issue is, your approach lacks some fundamental sophistication required for doing this kind of stuff, like, most of your critique can be summed up in "critiquing the genre and not it's execution". The soundtrack was from the get go set to be done in "big beat" style, that was popular at the time (British electronic acts like Prodigy, Chemical Brothers and the like, for curious readers). The genre is all about re-sampling, postprocessing and layering of pre-recorded drum, bass, and guitar riffs, fused with electronic synths and effects. Focusing on the scales of sampled guitar riffs, or commenting that there's lack of variety in the bassline and the like, totally misses the point. Most of your critique seems very parochial to the type of music you are into. It's like classical musician going through rock album and then complaining that every track "has parts that repeat" (verse-chorus-bridge song structure), or electronic musician going through the same album and complaining "ohh again, it's the same old 4 instruments used". It totally misses the point. It's perfectly legit to bring your reservations about the genre at overall level, but it's pointless to bring it up at every instance. Sorry, that's just my 2 cents. But as I've said I appreciate the hard work, and I agree with your closing opinion, just not the per track breakdowns. Cheers!
Hey man, thanks for the detailed comment. I appreciate it, as you seem to be very passionate about the topic, which is always great to see! While I agree with some of what you said, and I definitely do lack an intimate familiarity with big beat music, I want to address a few points: Firstly, I'm familiar with what big beat is about, which I also included in the video, as well as the same artists that you listed. Around 4:40 I could've gone into more detail, but I had complaints on previous videos about the long intros, so I didn't want to overstay my welcome there. Secondly, I honestly disagree that I missed the point of the genre, but rather that I held the soundtrack to different criteria than analysing the tracks as isolated pieces of music. I criticise tracks for their repetitiveness whenever I'm personally not fond of whatever it is they're repeating. You'll notice that some of the other tracks either do fine with less of what I labelled repetitiveness, or simply create a sound that I personally enjoy listening to for 1-2 minutes straight without any intervention. I'd argue this is not me missing the point, but simply explaining why I favor some of these big beat songs more than others. For example, I commented on the Hwoarang PS1 track that I enjoy how a few specific elements aid in the track not feeling repetitive at all, even though there is not so much change happening. Julia's track has a long buildup, but I enjoy that buildup a lot, I think it is a nicely mix with thoughtfully chosen sounds, so having a long intro is a blessing to me. Also, I don't criticise the use of electronic samples because I don't like the concept. I criticise it whenever I don't like their application or whenever I feel that they take up too much space in the mix. See Eddy's arranged version. Another thing on repeating parts is that I view this at least partially through the in-game experience. Fighting games matches are often short, especially when you play by yourself, which most of us did or still do when playing Tekken 3. When some of these tracks take very long to "get going", this can mean that the player doesn't get to listen to the payoff of that buildup, which I think is worth of criticism. Whether that's because of the genre or the individual piece doesn't matter at that point, even though I still believe it is the latter. Finally, I think that the stark differences between arcade/arranged versions and my often very different opinion of those two versions shows that I'm not critical of the genre or its fundamental elements, but rather just say in which instance I can enjoy it and in which I can't. Jin's arcade version is not insanely different to the arranged version, and I'd say that both pieces are certainly big beat music. However, it's small details that make me favor one over the other. I can see why you'd get upset at certain points, for example my review of the Xiaoyu track, where I first comment on the unspectacular guitar riff, which is certainly not the most important element of big beat. At the end of the day, I'm a guitarist, so I listen carefully for things like that, and choosing an interesting guitar sample is important, even in a genre like big beat. Some of other tracks do that wonderfully! Sorry for the long response, but I'm also passionate about this topic and I take detailed criticism like yours seriously. I truly appreciate your comment and I'll take it to heart for the next review. I'll try to get a more thorough understanding of the prevalent genre, so that I can make more specific comments. Cheers!
Yeah, something went wrong for sure, I really don't know why...I considered reuploading it after a couple of weeks, but I didn't want to lose all the amazing comments people had posted until then, so maybe once I cover TTT and T4 it will get a bit more traffic!
I was all the way with you until you threw Heihachi's arcade track in a vat of shit. You straight fuckin' buggin' dawg. That shit has that "Oh you think you're bad, huh?" and "Why is this old man so strong?!" feel to it.
Tekken 3's soundtrack is so good that I look at it as if it were a zeitgeist of the late 90s, and it's really damn hard to tell me that it's not. In terms of fighting game music, it's no contest: Tekken 3, Alpha 3, Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike. There's your late 90s music primer. Indeed, outside of that, it's hard to think of many fighting games where the music is just such an essential part of its experience. Street Fighter II, of course. Guilty Gear XX, sure. Maybe Soul Calibur 1 or 2. Some more modern ones perhaps - Skullgirls or Melty Blood comes to mind. But besides SF2 defining the early 90s and Guilty Gear XX defining the early 2000s, it's really hard to nail down a better set of fighting game soundtracks that captures the spirit of the era it was made in, so much as those three.
@@dinosulic101Thank you! And thank you for the video, I was looking forward to this one since I came across your Tekken 1 and 2 ones. Knew as soon as I saw it uploaded that it'd be my "dinner video" as I like to call them. :)
Hi! Yes, after I finish a couple of videos I'm currently working on, I will resume the Tekken OST series with Tekken Tag Tournament, followed closely by Tekken 4. Could take a few weeks, but we're definitely getting there soon! Stay tuned :)
Dude Tekken 3's OST is the GOAT! Both the Arcade and the Remix version, though I do prefer the PS1 soundtrack a little more, just cuz it feels to fit the characters to a T. I always get hyped when i listen to any of those Tekken 3 themes.
I actually think that Yoshimitsus theme is the best one. The riff is so catchy. I get that you don't think it fits the character. Perhaps Tekken 2 has a better suited Yoshimitsu theme. However, here's my top five from T3: 1. Yoshimitsu 2. Law 3. Jin 4. Nina 5. King
If i have to make a top 5 of my favorite tracks from my favorite characters partially ^^ it will be : 1.Ogre (Arcade) 2.Jin (PS1) 3.Nina (PS1) 4.Xiaoyu (PS1) 5.KIng (Arcade) (King is not one of my favorite character but i love his theme ^^) Honorable Mentions : Attract Movie Opening Movie Bosconovitch (PS1) I know it's not original but i can't resist, they have my favorites for a long time ^^
Honestly, i prefer the arranged version of lei wulong's theme to the arcade. The arcade version feels like a quick demo short film that goes right to the action of a fight; which is still pretty cool but not distinctive to lei.the arranged version feels very much akin to a kung fu cop movie flick, right at a high point where the cop is at a do or die scenario that he cant just back out of. It tells a story and even though those electric guitar riffs are so minor in the arranged version compared to the arcade version, it still screams at the right and perfect time that this was always Lei's world, and the opponent is just in the way of Lei's inevitable justice that he's about to serve them.
Yeah been grayed out for me since the end of last year. Might have to check it out if it's coming up different for you, I gotta see what the problem might be.@@dinosulic101
I disagree...the Guitar is not a quintessential pilar of a piece of music....if it's to repetitive it's a drag?.... this is not true , but specially on a figthing game...where music tends to be more one dimensional just for the focus of the player....
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I still play Nina’s track randomly whenever I’m cruising or working out. Easily my top 3 favorite tekken tracks. Funny thing I dislike Nina in every way 😂 she’s too forced and boring.
I feel that Tekken Tag 1 is the pinnacle of Tekken music tbh despite Tekken having better soundtracks in later on. I am bias due to TTT being my fave of all time but musically wise, i feel like it hits majority of the notes from the stage matching to having an easier listening, more stable yet outrageous type of soundtrack. The problem with Tekken 3 because of it's "New Generation" persona, the composers tried too hard to make the music sound "New gen" for the 90's more over than fitting stage/character. Tekken Tag 1 does both well not perfectly but excellently Tekken Tag 1 layed out the foundation for Tekkken music today, except for 4. From House, Drum n Bass to Dubstep, especially with more orchestra background, Tekken Tag 1 sound track is the complete blueprint to modern Tekken music that we have now. I feel Tekken 2 andcomposed character stage themes better in comparison to 3. 3 was Tekken trying to find itself, in it's music i think.
And yes it's my bias showing. Lol. I still would listen to TTT1 over any Tekken music except that Tag 2 comes close. Lol which means Tekken Tag music is my favorite music lol
Hi guys! I'm back again with some Tekken music. Tekken 3 is very dear to me, hence why the video is so long this time. Or maybe it's because of all the different track versions, who knows...
I hope you guys enjoy watching as much as I did creating! More "Is The Music Good" is coming soon, along with a few shorter video ideas. Stay tuned! :)
Bryan Fury’s bass shred to me seems to represent chaos. Which to me matches the character’s insanity
Can't wait for the tag 1 review "NO EYES, NO EARS, NO BALLS"
Fun fact: The arcade music is actually dynamic with sections changing in each round. That effect is absent on the PS1 and emulated version on Tekken 5.
Yeah, that‘s a cool detail! I skipped over it in the video because it would‘ve taken waay too long to talk about each track‘s different versions lmao
The Tekken 3 music is crazy accurate to the exact characters it was composed for. it has always a special place in my heart
Crazy how the algorithm hasn't picked up on this yet. Tekken 3's OST is so iconic
Xiaoyu's PS1 theme is memorable for me due to how well the music fits her stage. I'm no music critique, but the instruments used give me the impression of an intense festive carnival performance, and the music overall invites excitement, adrenaline, and joy to anyone who watches it.
Just by listening to it, you're listening to Xiaoyu's passion for high-octane entertainment.
That makes a ton of sense, never thought of it that way!
Nina music akways attract me
Tekken 3 is very special to me on several different levels, it fascinated me when I first saw it, it was the very first fighting game I've ever seen/played which started my absolute obsession with fighting game/game development and since I was starting to learn music at around the same time I was introduced to fighting games, I'd always be paying an extra amount of attention to music and sound in those games, Tekken 3's soundtrack to this day remains my favorite soundtrack for those reasons.
Amazing to read comments like yours!
Is the music good?! Bro not only is it the best in the franchise, it belongs in a museum i listen to it to this day its so well put toghether its ridiculous and there is no better workout music. One of the best soundtracks in a video game ever. Tekken 2 has some great bangers as well.
Well said!
True
That’s very debatable, it’s definitely up there but I’d argue Tekken Tag Tournament & Tekken 5 compete with Tekken 3 for best Tekken Soundtrack
@@MannerdDesert7thank you. Tekken 5 has the best music overall
Is betjere is no better workout músic really, and I Love ❤
Embu (演武/えんぶ) means "Martial arts demonstration"
Ooooh that makes sense, thanks for clarifying!
OMG YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE Tekken 3's MUSIC!!! I used to leave my PS running all night just to fall asleep to King's music LOL!
The opening movie theme is definately the classic one for me that i listen to every now and then for nostalgiahype. Nina and Eddie also very memorable.
Sup lol I think we have the same name
Intro tune definitely has some Prodigy vibes. Especially that drums in the very beginning reminds of Breath
I actually always prefered the ps1 version of Yoshi's theme even to the point of remembering the very first time when I listened to it when I was a kid. I remember the time of the day and how my room looked during that evening. It's my favorite Tekken theme of all time and yeah it's less atmospheric than the arcade version but it suits Yoshimitsu's crazy fighting style much more imho.
Fair point, that‘s very understandable! I guess I never really paid attention to it as a kid..
Another masterful piece of art from you Dino, thanks for this content! Hopefully we get to enjoy a similar video for Tekken 4 & 5
Thank you so much! I‘ll review them eventually, that‘s for sure!
Loved every second of the video. Here are my top 5 favourite tracks:
Julia's theme
Brian's theme
Paul's theme
Lei's theme
Nina's theme
I agree that many tracks have a long buildup and they're maybe not that diegetic for a fighting game, but are amazing to listen to in any other contest
Thank you so much! Good list you got there, and yeah, I see your point for sure!
HELL YEAH! More tekken music reviews, I just love hearing opinions on my favorite game OSTs from actual musicians, liked the video, keep em coming.
Thanks, I will!
Omg yes!! Thank you for all the hard work making this, this is probably my top 3 OST of all time. My favourite track is Julia's, with Hidden Characters as a close second
You‘re more than welcome! Great choice, Julia‘s track is a banger for sure!
I've never really seen Heihachi as a sub-boss, so everytime I hear his arcade theme the only thing that rings on my mind is that his theme and Jin's are parallels with each other.
Both have a very similar guitar riff and also both have a emergency vehicle-esque noise. Jin's sounds like the police have arrived, and Heihachi's sound like his police just got called and are on the way to give him armed support.
Great video as always I always look forward to these soundtrack breakdowns. Interesting note on Gon though, Gon is actually a manga character so getting a license to keep him in future games was just not in the cards. Also I would absolutely love to see more Tekken vids from you
Thank you so much! Music is very big in my life obviously, so I love looking back at soundtracks that shaped me since I was little :)
Oh I‘m aware of Gon‘s origins, but it still hurts me that they couldn‘t make another deal happen for whatever reason…
I appreciate it, I‘d like to branch out into smaller video essays on other aspects of the games, such as lore, creation of the game etc. while still making in-depth music analysis videos of course!
absolutely banger video, great job dino. i love this series and cant wait to see more
Thank you!
I would be highly interested in you covering other topics about Tekken 3 too while also still keeping this series as im a big music nerd and producer myself :D Keep them coming man!
Thank you so much, I appreciate it!
I‘m gonna try out a few ideas, the music reviews are gonna keep coming ofc!
I have been waiting for this Dino, can't wait for T4 ❤
It‘s coming sometime in the future, so stay tuned ;)
16:43 Nice pun there, "way too long" as Lei Wulong (I'm drunk)
That was tooootally intentional hahaha
That was tooootally intentional hahaha
Yes! So excited for the next 3 games. IMO the best of the series
Yeah, it‘s gonna be a lot of fun covering them!
Been waiting for you to drop this, so good!
Thanks, gonna keep em comin‘!
bryans intro is A MASTERPIECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh man that Xiaoyu section on the arranged version I absolutely love that version such a vibe good workout music too
Yassss ive been waiting on this videooo!! Amazing analysis as always🙌🏽
Thank you so much!
I'd argue that Xiaoyu is best girl. But don't worry, this means I can give Jun the more accurate title of "Best Woman" 😅
Fair enough 😂
Tekken 3 is THEE 2nd best soundtrack in the series. Super nostalgic and was my introduction to love of game music. First time I Fought Heihachi I paused the game, turn the tv all the way up and rocked out. Great OST but.......
TEKKEN TAG 1 OST IS THE G.O.A.T!!!
Yeah we’ll dive deep into the TTT1 OST in the not so distant future…
I'm here for it. Great job on this series man. Tekken needs to be recognized for how much work they put into their soundtracks. They barley ever just sound like white noise for a fighting game. They stand out like no other fighting game music.@@dinosulic101
Great video! So excited for you to cover the Diablo series next!
Thanks! I‘m playing Diablo 1 for the first time right now, it‘s fun and the music is very atmospheric. I‘m excited to cover it too!
@@dinosulic101 Enjoy your time! Of all the games in the series, D1 has the best atmosphere overall IMO, though D2 is pretty good in that regard too. Looking forward to your take on the music!
Oh baby, I been waiting for this.
More is on the way, stay tuned!
Bryan's theme always makes me think of the Mega-Man X series.
Same exact feeling for the Forrest Law PS1 vs arcade. It was a cool idea the arcade tried, but the PS1 version feels like an amazing moment where the song of the dragon shows he isn't just law by name.it feels like THE track that anyone in love with Bruce lees story would train and fight to. I used to listen to this song a lot, every time I played as law or any other Bruce lee type fighting character, before they took it off Spotify. Even at the gym, It was one of my most listened to training songs. It just screamed being the best you no matter what, being like water, mastering the art of dying, which the law characters in fighting SEEMED to embody. . . Unlike the character himself unfortunately
i waited for this video and it finally came
I always deliver ;)
The "Continue" music works for me. It lets your blood boil just a little bit as you fish for two more quarters from your pocket. Makes me wanna kick Ogre's teeth in. It feels like "I'm down, but I'm far from out."
Great video, can't wait for TTT!
Forest Law ost was always insanely good and it still is to me. Great drums and great bass
Part of why I like Eddy's theme way better in the ps1 version is because it just feels like Eddy Gordo, like capoeira. The arcade version sounds more fitting for his stage rather than his character and playstyle, and while that's good, a character theme is obviously way more likeable when you know, it's more about the character, not the stage.
Also King's arcade theme rocks, still one of my favorite tekken soundtracks ever made.
31:00 you're not the only one, his track in tekken 2 fits him better.
57:15 I think that this is exactly what they were going for, tekken 3 was the start of a new generation of fighting, a new beginning, even the canonical ending of the game has jin flying away from ogre's temple, having not yet killed heihachi, basically it's more of a teaser for future developments rather than a true ending, it's only fitting for the staff roll theme to not close the game, but hype you up for what's next. This is also why I think that you'll really enjoy tag 1's credits theme, as it truly encapsulates the feeling of a goodbye, or the end of an era.
Also, I see that you do seem to really like Azazel's theme from tekken 6, which is something that I can't fault you for, Keiichi Okabe is a musical genius.
Nice observations!
Great video!!!! This video needs more views
Thanks! It's not performing as well as the Tekken 1 and 2 videos sadly, not sure why but what can you do.
@@dinosulic101True
Tekken 3 is the best OST in a fighting game for me
The staff roll arcade theme also plays in the ps1 version for the Tekken Force Mode result screen if i recall correctly
27:16 I was *TODAY* years old when I found this out LOL!!!
I knoooow, right? 😂
Tekken tag tournament has the most memories for me
The Hworangs theme, the Battle Trax version is probably the best if not, my absolute fav.
It's so bizarre to me how everyone I've seen speak on it prefers the arcade version of King's theme over the arrange.
Iunno man, the intro, the drums, the way the the lead comes in with the cool additional synthwork on top... MAN I love it. The guitar sample FINALLY kicking in is so dope, cathartic even.
I like arcade's chiller vibe but I feel like it doesn't do enough to hold my interest and I don't vibe with a lot of the synth choices there. I don't rock with how arcade handles the synth riff both tracks share.
I will say I definitely got into Tekken later on and definitely prefer my music aggressive and maximalist (7's probably my favorite Tekken OST maybe? Def up there with 3 but for wildly different nerdy music producer reasons) so I'm biased lmao.
Whatever, great vid!
17:02 Bruce Lee vs Jackie Chan
For me Nina and Laws theme is goated 🤌🤌🤌
Good choices for sure!
So something that alot of people dont know that some of the electric guitar you are hearing are actually samples from other famous songs and also Lei Wulong’s BGM is also shared with CVS2 stage the arena…i just found this out recently
Dr. B’s theme is one of my favorite tracks in the game. It’s so badass and catchy for such a joke character.
Hey, as fellow Tekken 3 fan, I absolutely respect the effort you've put into making this video, and shining some spotlight onto this iconic soundtrack. However, as I fellow music enthusiast, I can't say I've enjoyed your breakdown and critique of the pieces. It kinda got under my skin at some points haha. The issue is, your approach lacks some fundamental sophistication required for doing this kind of stuff, like, most of your critique can be summed up in "critiquing the genre and not it's execution".
The soundtrack was from the get go set to be done in "big beat" style, that was popular at the time (British electronic acts like Prodigy, Chemical Brothers and the like, for curious readers). The genre is all about re-sampling, postprocessing and layering of pre-recorded drum, bass, and guitar riffs, fused with electronic synths and effects. Focusing on the scales of sampled guitar riffs, or commenting that there's lack of variety in the bassline and the like, totally misses the point. Most of your critique seems very parochial to the type of music you are into. It's like classical musician going through rock album and then complaining that every track "has parts that repeat" (verse-chorus-bridge song structure), or electronic musician going through the same album and complaining "ohh again, it's the same old 4 instruments used". It totally misses the point. It's perfectly legit to bring your reservations about the genre at overall level, but it's pointless to bring it up at every instance.
Sorry, that's just my 2 cents. But as I've said I appreciate the hard work, and I agree with your closing opinion, just not the per track breakdowns. Cheers!
Hey man, thanks for the detailed comment. I appreciate it, as you seem to be very passionate about the topic, which is always great to see!
While I agree with some of what you said, and I definitely do lack an intimate familiarity with big beat music, I want to address a few points:
Firstly, I'm familiar with what big beat is about, which I also included in the video, as well as the same artists that you listed. Around 4:40
I could've gone into more detail, but I had complaints on previous videos about the long intros, so I didn't want to overstay my welcome there.
Secondly, I honestly disagree that I missed the point of the genre, but rather that I held the soundtrack to different criteria than analysing the tracks as isolated pieces of music. I criticise tracks for their repetitiveness whenever I'm personally not fond of whatever it is they're repeating. You'll notice that some of the other tracks either do fine with less of what I labelled repetitiveness, or simply create a sound that I personally enjoy listening to for 1-2 minutes straight without any intervention. I'd argue this is not me missing the point, but simply explaining why I favor some of these big beat songs more than others. For example, I commented on the Hwoarang PS1 track that I enjoy how a few specific elements aid in the track not feeling repetitive at all, even though there is not so much change happening. Julia's track has a long buildup, but I enjoy that buildup a lot, I think it is a nicely mix with thoughtfully chosen sounds, so having a long intro is a blessing to me.
Also, I don't criticise the use of electronic samples because I don't like the concept. I criticise it whenever I don't like their application or whenever I feel that they take up too much space in the mix. See Eddy's arranged version.
Another thing on repeating parts is that I view this at least partially through the in-game experience. Fighting games matches are often short, especially when you play by yourself, which most of us did or still do when playing Tekken 3. When some of these tracks take very long to "get going", this can mean that the player doesn't get to listen to the payoff of that buildup, which I think is worth of criticism. Whether that's because of the genre or the individual piece doesn't matter at that point, even though I still believe it is the latter.
Finally, I think that the stark differences between arcade/arranged versions and my often very different opinion of those two versions shows that I'm not critical of the genre or its fundamental elements, but rather just say in which instance I can enjoy it and in which I can't. Jin's arcade version is not insanely different to the arranged version, and I'd say that both pieces are certainly big beat music. However, it's small details that make me favor one over the other.
I can see why you'd get upset at certain points, for example my review of the Xiaoyu track, where I first comment on the unspectacular guitar riff, which is certainly not the most important element of big beat. At the end of the day, I'm a guitarist, so I listen carefully for things like that, and choosing an interesting guitar sample is important, even in a genre like big beat. Some of other tracks do that wonderfully!
Sorry for the long response, but I'm also passionate about this topic and I take detailed criticism like yours seriously.
I truly appreciate your comment and I'll take it to heart for the next review. I'll try to get a more thorough understanding of the prevalent genre, so that I can make more specific comments.
Cheers!
Unfortunate this video was not picked by the algorythm at all. Guess it could happen later with a new game hype!
Yeah, something went wrong for sure, I really don't know why...I considered reuploading it after a couple of weeks, but I didn't want to lose all the amazing comments people had posted until then, so maybe once I cover TTT and T4 it will get a bit more traffic!
52:20 Does that guitar remind you of the beginning of the Garden of the Tiger from Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection? Did they reuse it?
I was all the way with you until you threw Heihachi's arcade track in a vat of shit.
You straight fuckin' buggin' dawg.
That shit has that "Oh you think you're bad, huh?" and "Why is this old man so strong?!" feel to it.
Yes. The answer is yes. It's only really gonna get better with Tag 1 and 4, tho in those cases you have less songs to work with
That means less editing work at least haha
I also like a good amount of tunes from T5 and T6, gonna be fun to review them in the future :)
Tekken 3's soundtrack is so good that I look at it as if it were a zeitgeist of the late 90s, and it's really damn hard to tell me that it's not.
In terms of fighting game music, it's no contest: Tekken 3, Alpha 3, Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike. There's your late 90s music primer. Indeed, outside of that, it's hard to think of many fighting games where the music is just such an essential part of its experience. Street Fighter II, of course. Guilty Gear XX, sure. Maybe Soul Calibur 1 or 2. Some more modern ones perhaps - Skullgirls or Melty Blood comes to mind.
But besides SF2 defining the early 90s and Guilty Gear XX defining the early 2000s, it's really hard to nail down a better set of fighting game soundtracks that captures the spirit of the era it was made in, so much as those three.
Interesting observations, really appreciate your comment!
@@dinosulic101Thank you! And thank you for the video, I was looking forward to this one since I came across your Tekken 1 and 2 ones. Knew as soon as I saw it uploaded that it'd be my "dinner video" as I like to call them. :)
wow, xiaoyu theme is so perfect and make me feel so many things
i get really sad that u didnt enjoyed :(
Hey, mate, do you plan review T4-T7?
Hi! Yes, after I finish a couple of videos I'm currently working on, I will resume the Tekken OST series with Tekken Tag Tournament, followed closely by Tekken 4. Could take a few weeks, but we're definitely getting there soon! Stay tuned :)
Dude Tekken 3's OST is the GOAT! Both the Arcade and the Remix version, though I do prefer the PS1 soundtrack a little more, just cuz it feels to fit the characters to a T.
I always get hyped when i listen to any of those Tekken 3 themes.
Tekken 2 music is good but for me Tekken 3 music is always in my heart plus it was my first Tekken game
I actually think that Yoshimitsus theme is the best one. The riff is so catchy. I get that you don't think it fits the character. Perhaps Tekken 2 has a better suited Yoshimitsu theme. However, here's my top five from T3:
1. Yoshimitsu
2. Law
3. Jin
4. Nina
5. King
1:00:40 Thank YOU for the video!
Thank you for your support!
If i have to make a top 5 of my favorite tracks from my favorite characters partially ^^ it will be :
1.Ogre (Arcade)
2.Jin (PS1)
3.Nina (PS1)
4.Xiaoyu (PS1)
5.KIng (Arcade) (King is not one of my favorite character but i love his theme ^^)
Honorable Mentions :
Attract Movie
Opening Movie
Bosconovitch (PS1)
I know it's not original but i can't resist, they have my favorites for a long time ^^
It's really good! Still use it to workout too💪
great video hope u make a series and inlcude tekken 5 6 7 music
I will, I'm currently working on Tekken Tag Tournament. After that, I'll immediately cover Tekken 4 :)
wow great news tekken tag 2 and 6 have more intense trancy epic tracks too
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@@dinosulic101Tekken 4 has the most underrated ost. My favorite is The Inner Shrine
julia has such a interesting entrace on the game, so sad harada didnt care about her
Most of tekken 3 music is used for my TEKKEN TAG 2 game
Honestly, i prefer the arranged version of lei wulong's theme to the arcade. The arcade version feels like a quick demo short film that goes right to the action of a fight; which is still pretty cool but not distinctive to lei.the arranged version feels very much akin to a kung fu cop movie flick, right at a high point where the cop is at a do or die scenario that he cant just back out of. It tells a story and even though those electric guitar riffs are so minor in the arranged version compared to the arcade version, it still screams at the right and perfect time that this was always Lei's world, and the opponent is just in the way of Lei's inevitable justice that he's about to serve them.
I started guitar only to play tekken 3 riffs 😂. Sure this is epic songs like final fantasy 7 or street fighter 2 ✌️
That‘s great to hear man, keep it rockin‘!
Yes. Next question.
Lol you were not the only one, I also thought it was the same Law.
Why is Tekken 6 Jin on a Tekken 3 thumbnail?
Pretty much
I agree that Yoshi’s arranged theme doesn’t really fit him. I think Tekken 2 and Tag 1 did a better job in that regard.
Also, Tekken soundtracks aren't available on Spotify anymore😑
Tekken Tag 1 OST still the G.O.A.T
For me they are still up on Spotify 🤨
Yeah been grayed out for me since the end of last year. Might have to check it out if it's coming up different for you, I gotta see what the problem might be.@@dinosulic101
Xiaoyu is my favorite theme, hearing your opinion was a doriya to the gut 😓
I disagree...the Guitar is not a quintessential pilar of a piece of music....if it's to repetitive it's a drag?.... this is not true , but specially on a figthing game...where music tends to be more one dimensional just for the focus of the player....
Tekken 4 music, please 🙏
Well, TTT is first, but that one is coming rather soon actually 🤫
@@dinosulic101Tag and 4 both have such amazing music!
Tekken 9 music, please 🙏
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Just commenting so you get more views
I totally disagree with you about Yoshimitsu's theme the PSX version is better
Fair enough!
I still play Nina’s track randomly whenever I’m cruising or working out. Easily my top 3 favorite tekken tracks. Funny thing I dislike Nina in every way 😂 she’s too forced and boring.
Nina a boring character really?
Nina is probably one of the best characters in the series and only character that have her own game
I understand music is subjective but how could you even ask if the tekken 3 soundtrack is good?
Understandable for sure, but „Do I Like The Music“ isn‘t much of an attractive title for a YT video haha
Embu is great, stop overanalysing music, permit yourself the right to enjoy music for what It is, music inst supposed to be a mathematic equasion
I feel that Tekken Tag 1 is the pinnacle of Tekken music tbh despite Tekken having better soundtracks in later on. I am bias due to TTT being my fave of all time but musically wise, i feel like it hits majority of the notes from the stage matching to having an easier listening, more stable yet outrageous type of soundtrack.
The problem with Tekken 3 because of it's "New Generation" persona, the composers tried too hard to make the music sound "New gen" for the 90's more over than fitting stage/character. Tekken Tag 1 does both well not perfectly but excellently
Tekken Tag 1 layed out the foundation for Tekkken music today, except for 4. From House, Drum n Bass to Dubstep, especially with more orchestra background, Tekken Tag 1 sound track is the complete blueprint to modern Tekken music that we have now.
I feel Tekken 2 andcomposed character stage themes better in comparison to 3. 3 was Tekken trying to find itself, in it's music i think.
And yes it's my bias showing. Lol. I still would listen to TTT1 over any Tekken music except that Tag 2 comes close. Lol which means Tekken Tag music is my favorite music lol
Can't wait for the best Tekken Ost review which is Tekken Tag 1