Goku wins rather y'all like it or not, he outscales, speedblitzes and outhax saitama, y'all gotta stop comparing saitama with multiversal scale characters, also don't pull future saitama bs by that logic what about future goku
The Galaxies only are meant to expand infinitely but not being infinitely in size, this might be a translation error or just a hyperbole but even if it is, it only scales you to Low 2-C (Universe level+)
Reminder to everyone that even if saitama does grow he cant grow outside of his dimensional axis so him getting stronger on a 3D level woildnt matter to goku who is dimensionally higher than he is
@@Juliancorrea-rl9df It's not infinite potential if he already has the power, he just decides not to use it. Goku is the one with infinite potential lol.
If its Z end if Buu Goku saitama has a chance since before BOG goku is just Multi galaxy system but if its Super Goku saitama will get a hard time to that
I try to explain wy Saitama is stronger he is immune to any abilities like the Hakkai from berus. His power grows higher than his opponents no matter how strong they are.The last thing is the zero punch is an effect of causality reversal that means that he can change the effect of any cause like he wants for example that Goku's punch hits himself or that he can timetravel
How is he immune? What implies that he is immune to hakai? And no his power dosnt just grow, he just went all out. He literally only grew above an opponent once, when he was mad, who he was equal to in power. And saitama cant peform the zero punch, and either way gokus durability is too high for this to mean anything
@@Yakonsupremacy immune to hakai is not proven but he seems to be immune to other abilitys like radiation but the zero punch could just hit Goku when he was a little kid and Saitama is Multigalaxy level
Not only does jiren and the gods of destruction which Goku scales above stated to transcend time multiple upon multiple times we also have Goku moving in a timeless void when zeno destroyed the entire timeline. We also do have multiple upon multiple statements of super dimensional battles in dragon Ball and just high dimensional in the dragon Ball cosmology. So Goku is fifth dimensional with a immeasurable speed.
if saitama was that strong he would have been given an important role in jump force thats not the case he's just canon fodder for demigra in jump force it is made by suiesha and it's official saitama can't beat goku ever combined z goku feats are already outerversal every opm feat is still on mortal plane and z goku has feats beyond afterlife and if you think jump force goku is not canon evey jump character was done the guidance of their creators and akira toriyama has stated multiple times every goku is canon to db multiverse essentially making heroes canon
Saitama wouldn't win in a full out fight, simply due to him having Noone to challenge him. Though, I do think we'd have a discussion on Goku just letting Saitama get stronger
The video is pretty biased tbh. Saying everything that puts Saitama at multi solar system level max but taking out of consideration anything else that puts him above that, like the hyperspace feat, calling the time travel hax and ignoring the infinite strength statements is just half assed work. You even say that Saitama is the strongest in his verse yet you put him below the interdimensional god of the series lol You forget that the gate Saitama kicked away was called subspace but Blast said in chapter 166 that he'd use the gate to send Garou to another dimension and in chapter 139 Blast uses the same gate to teleport inside a dimension with its own space-time. Interdimensional travel is the functionality of hyperspace gates, not subspace, which are used for data transfer. Calling those portals subspace because that's what they are called while ignoring their in verse explanation and feats is a name fallacy and nitpicking. The time travel was called a martial arts technique, not hax. All of Garou's cosmic abilities were confirmed in chapter 165 to be part and an extension of Bang's water stream which is martial arts aka body movement. Additionally, Genos calls Saitama's time travel in 169 "movement". So the "it's hax, not movement speed" argument is out of the question. Saitama was called infinitely strong by Cosmic Garou who was confirmed to have universal understanding and power. Yes, universal power. In chapter 165, the manga explains Garou's ability to absorb his universal knowledge and turn it into his power. Garou also said to Bang that he fully understood the flow of universal energy and became one with it and managed to control it. He basically became one with his knowledge, gaining universal power which is also consistent with how he can blow away Hyperspace gates in chapter 166 and how he has knowledge of the functions of time as well, not just space, being able to time travel through martial arts. Garou is also a walking universe. All those stars and galaxies you see inside him are literally part of his body, evident when he tries to cry but instead of tears he shed some of the stars found inside the cosmic space of his face. This is consistent with Garou becoming one with universal energy. Now considering all of these, Garou fully understands the forces of the universe, including both time and space, which are 4D, so he has basically 4D understanding, yet he couldn't fathom a limit in Saitama's strength, so Saitama is at least infinite 4D or at least 4D with uni+ AP. But only AP. His DC is far weaker, as it was made clear when he only blew away stars/solar systems with the serious punch². Also if you translate the website of the infinite strength scan, below it you can find that ONE's name and involvement in its release is listed, so the scan is fully approved by ONE.
He understands everything about the universe not some random bald guys strength. Just because he doesn't know that doesn't mean Saitama is instantly 4D that's like saying Albert Einstein didn't know how to create an iPhone so the iPhone is a higher dimension than Albert Einstein.
@@jandel911 when Garou has 4D and uni+ knowledge and power yet he can't see a limit to Saitama's strength, that means he does understand it but he can't imagine where it ends. That would mean Saitama is at least far more powerful than Garou, aka at least 4D and uni+ like Garou
@@Shinji240 You are right. Calling someone infinitely strong with no context doesn't scale anywhere. Saitama though, after destroying/interacting with hyperspace gates which are 4D and beating a 4D being with universal power (Garou) and being called infinitely strong by him means he is at least way above Garou, aka at least uni+. And I'm lowballing him right now as his infinite strength could be infinite 4/5D. And Saitama does have uni+ feats. Stop ignoring and calling them non existent without even sitting down to understand them. And Saitama wouldn't be fodder in db. Even if we say he's uni+ max while other db fighters are Multiversal to outversal, Saitama's time travel basically shows he has immeasurable speed and his exponential growth was calced to give even a random dude universal power in 0.4 nanoseconds lol. Saitama would need just a single insult about his bald head for his emotions and exponential growth to kick in and he'd be multiversal in seconds
No matter how strong Goku is, he still loses, because future Saitama has already ended him exponentially Like Cosmic Fear Garou, and Saitama can go even further than Cosmic Fear Garou.
Yeah the only reason being a rage amp HE LEGIT doughnuted GENOShis Close friend ofc he’s getting a rage amp Imao even with said amp he doesn’t pass galaxy
So we kust going ignore the fact goku's feat in ssjg is invalid because he never does anything like that with blue which is supposed to be 50x stronger, suggest it was simply goku fighting a god of detruction that caused it, meaning it's not goku's feat
Ok so you guys clearly think it’s goku so boom fine you are entitled to your opinion but all I got to say is this . If goku at base form isn’t stronger than saitama he loses it’s that simple because we know goku he will not go all out right at the start. There is no scenario where goku will fight saitama all out from the start at that point goku will have the edge up until a certain point than saitama growth will catch up until the author says there is a limit to his growth there is no limit it is that simple. His feat are under goku that’s because goku fights stronger opponents strongest we have seen in opm is cosmic G who is stronger than most of the z fighters except for the obvious ones gohan piccolo
Basically the point I’m making is that saitama has a bad representation compared to goku all of goku fight has been him being weaker than the villain than getting a power boost it’s the opposite in opm so it harder to gauge if saitama is trying to or not if that makes sense bottom line if goku doesn’t go all out at the start he loses and if he does (which he won’t because that is out of character) he wins and this is non bias I like db more than opm in general
@@Shinji240 Buu never destroyed infinity LOL. The best he did was collapse the boundaries between dimensions which isn't even a real Universal+ feat. Buu is overrated and fodder, an Ichigo victim lmao 😂
shos me where he go all out agg against garou show me stop acting stupid fam u can clearly see bro was entertaining garou with one hand to beat the crap out of him he even said it himself he wasn't trying to kill him make it make sense goku will never be on saitama lvl make goku fans keep fooling yall
Saitama solos man he's never gone all out i swear
why are you lying
@@ИванЧерпелийскиno he's not lying
Future Saitama😱 Damn it bro
he was bloodlusted bro he went all out
@@Christhesweathe didnt kid
Goku wins rather y'all like it or not, he outscales, speedblitzes and outhax saitama, y'all gotta stop comparing saitama with multiversal scale characters, also don't pull future saitama bs by that logic what about future goku
The Galaxies only are meant to expand infinitely but not being infinitely in size, this might be a translation error or just a hyperbole but even if it is, it only scales you to Low 2-C (Universe level+)
why the video just cut out like that???
i needed the extra 5 seconds bad lmfao
Reminder to everyone that even if saitama does grow he cant grow outside of his dimensional axis so him getting stronger on a 3D level woildnt matter to goku who is dimensionally higher than he is
i litreally beat someone using saitama and bro was using kratos 😭
Goku gets his ass handed to him at full power while Saitama accidentally flicks his head and he dies
Proofs?
And don't start with "infinite strenght" 🤓
@@Juliancorrea-rl9df infinite strenght
@@KiraYBA Bruhhhh he just has infinite potential but that doesn't mean he has inf stats
@@Juliancorrea-rl9df It's not infinite potential if he already has the power, he just decides not to use it. Goku is the one with infinite potential lol.
Why people make a video about Goku vs Saitama?! What so important with that?!
Buu Saga Goku would punch Saitama so hard he would be unconscious for 5 years
Nah, he would be decimated
If its Z end if Buu Goku saitama has a chance since before BOG goku is just Multi galaxy system but if its Super Goku saitama will get a hard time to that
I feel like saitama and goku would want to friends and goku would end up asking saitama to spar we all know how goku is when he wants to spar
That will happen if the 2 ever meet but they'll make it who gets knocked out 1st
I try to explain wy Saitama is stronger he is immune to any abilities like the Hakkai from berus. His power grows higher than his opponents no matter how strong they are.The last thing is the zero punch is an effect of causality reversal that means that he can change the effect of any cause like he wants for example that Goku's punch hits himself or that he can timetravel
How is he immune? What implies that he is immune to hakai? And no his power dosnt just grow, he just went all out. He literally only grew above an opponent once, when he was mad, who he was equal to in power. And saitama cant peform the zero punch, and either way gokus durability is too high for this to mean anything
@@Yakonsupremacy immune to hakai is not proven but he seems to be immune to other abilitys like radiation but the zero punch could just hit Goku when he was a little kid and Saitama is Multigalaxy level
@@chrollolucifer37564goku one shots midtama
Blud saitama doesn't even know how to do zero punch no more 😂😂😂😂 lmao
Not only does jiren and the gods of destruction which Goku scales above stated to transcend time multiple upon multiple times we also have Goku moving in a timeless void when zeno destroyed the entire timeline. We also do have multiple upon multiple statements of super dimensional battles in dragon Ball and just high dimensional in the dragon Ball cosmology. So Goku is fifth dimensional with a immeasurable speed.
goku wins no-low diff now i gon see tht sphera4147 kid or kiraYBA kid in my replies
if saitama was that strong he would have been given an important role in jump force thats not the case he's just canon fodder for demigra in jump force it is made by suiesha and it's official saitama can't beat goku ever combined z goku feats are already outerversal every opm feat is still on mortal plane and z goku has feats beyond afterlife
and if you think jump force goku is not canon evey jump character was done the guidance of their creators and akira toriyama has stated multiple times every goku is canon to db multiverse essentially making heroes canon
Goku wins
Saitama wouldn't win in a full out fight, simply due to him having Noone to challenge him.
Though, I do think we'd have a discussion on Goku just letting Saitama get stronger
The video is pretty biased tbh. Saying everything that puts Saitama at multi solar system level max but taking out of consideration anything else that puts him above that, like the hyperspace feat, calling the time travel hax and ignoring the infinite strength statements is just half assed work. You even say that Saitama is the strongest in his verse yet you put him below the interdimensional god of the series lol
You forget that the gate Saitama kicked away was called subspace but Blast said in chapter 166 that he'd use the gate to send Garou to another dimension and in chapter 139 Blast uses the same gate to teleport inside a dimension with its own space-time. Interdimensional travel is the functionality of hyperspace gates, not subspace, which are used for data transfer. Calling those portals subspace because that's what they are called while ignoring their in verse explanation and feats is a name fallacy and nitpicking.
The time travel was called a martial arts technique, not hax. All of Garou's cosmic abilities were confirmed in chapter 165 to be part and an extension of Bang's water stream which is martial arts aka body movement. Additionally, Genos calls Saitama's time travel in 169 "movement". So the "it's hax, not movement speed" argument is out of the question.
Saitama was called infinitely strong by Cosmic Garou who was confirmed to have universal understanding and power. Yes, universal power. In chapter 165, the manga explains Garou's ability to absorb his universal knowledge and turn it into his power. Garou also said to Bang that he fully understood the flow of universal energy and became one with it and managed to control it. He basically became one with his knowledge, gaining universal power which is also consistent with how he can blow away Hyperspace gates in chapter 166 and how he has knowledge of the functions of time as well, not just space, being able to time travel through martial arts.
Garou is also a walking universe. All those stars and galaxies you see inside him are literally part of his body, evident when he tries to cry but instead of tears he shed some of the stars found inside the cosmic space of his face. This is consistent with Garou becoming one with universal energy.
Now considering all of these, Garou fully understands the forces of the universe, including both time and space, which are 4D, so he has basically 4D understanding, yet he couldn't fathom a limit in Saitama's strength, so Saitama is at least infinite 4D or at least 4D with uni+ AP. But only AP. His DC is far weaker, as it was made clear when he only blew away stars/solar systems with the serious punch².
Also if you translate the website of the infinite strength scan, below it you can find that ONE's name and involvement in its release is listed, so the scan is fully approved by ONE.
Bro i ain't readin allat 😭💀
He understands everything about the universe not some random bald guys strength. Just because he doesn't know that doesn't mean Saitama is instantly 4D that's like saying Albert Einstein didn't know how to create an iPhone so the iPhone is a higher dimension than Albert Einstein.
@@jandel911 when Garou has 4D and uni+ knowledge and power yet he can't see a limit to Saitama's strength, that means he does understand it but he can't imagine where it ends. That would mean Saitama is at least far more powerful than Garou, aka at least 4D and uni+ like Garou
bro is spitting facts
@@Shinji240 You are right. Calling someone infinitely strong with no context doesn't scale anywhere. Saitama though, after destroying/interacting with hyperspace gates which are 4D and beating a 4D being with universal power (Garou) and being called infinitely strong by him means he is at least way above Garou, aka at least uni+. And I'm lowballing him right now as his infinite strength could be infinite 4/5D.
And Saitama does have uni+ feats. Stop ignoring and calling them non existent without even sitting down to understand them.
And Saitama wouldn't be fodder in db. Even if we say he's uni+ max while other db fighters are Multiversal to outversal, Saitama's time travel basically shows he has immeasurable speed and his exponential growth was calced to give even a random dude universal power in 0.4 nanoseconds lol. Saitama would need just a single insult about his bald head for his emotions and exponential growth to kick in and he'd be multiversal in seconds
Power levels in fiction doesn't give you high tiers not that as those power systems only works as part of the Narrative of the Story
No matter how strong Goku is, he still loses, because future Saitama has already ended him exponentially Like Cosmic Fear Garou, and Saitama can go even further than Cosmic Fear Garou.
Yeah the only reason being a rage amp HE LEGIT doughnuted GENOShis Close friend ofc he’s getting a rage amp Imao even with said amp he doesn’t pass galaxy
@hopeeee_.-lollll Saitama doesn't have a rage Amp, he just got serious because this is the first person that gave him a reason to
This could be one of the win cons
Bro stop trying to argue saitamas case
not only does dragonball timelines work differently than others he can literally dodge with mui... annd goku could easily just copy the ability
Goku is atleast Complex Multi
With immeasurable speed.
Just scale him fair and square.
You don’t read the manga
@@MRForca u don't read daizehenshu
Immeasurable speed ? What’s your eveidnce???
@@greatminikwu9089 drop ur cord
@@greatminikwu9089goku literally blitzing someone who could move at instant speed r#tard
If goku doesn't immediately one shot saitama, then the fight will just look cool as long as goku is holding back. Otherwise, Saitama stands no chance
So we kust going ignore the fact goku's feat in ssjg is invalid because he never does anything like that with blue which is supposed to be 50x stronger, suggest it was simply goku fighting a god of detruction that caused it, meaning it's not goku's feat
tbh if Goku is Goku and lets siatama get stronger then it might be a tie or close
You might be right
bro u think goku is dumb he aint he has very low iq but he has plenty biq yall underestimate his biq
Bro just stole setheprogramer thumbnail
literally made it myself lmfao
ruclips.net/video/NDBwqJtNiZI/видео.htmlsi=rSsNnRqoecjD5B2m yeah he totally did
Ok so you guys clearly think it’s goku so boom fine you are entitled to your opinion but all I got to say is this . If goku at base form isn’t stronger than saitama he loses it’s that simple because we know goku he will not go all out right at the start. There is no scenario where goku will fight saitama all out from the start at that point goku will have the edge up until a certain point than saitama growth will catch up until the author says there is a limit to his growth there is no limit it is that simple. His feat are under goku that’s because goku fights stronger opponents strongest we have seen in opm is cosmic G who is stronger than most of the z fighters except for the obvious ones gohan piccolo
Basically the point I’m making is that saitama has a bad representation compared to goku all of goku fight has been him being weaker than the villain than getting a power boost it’s the opposite in opm so it harder to gauge if saitama is trying to or not if that makes sense bottom line if goku doesn’t go all out at the start he loses and if he does (which he won’t because that is out of character) he wins and this is non bias I like db more than opm in general
too bad goku in base form would one shot garou and midtama
Saitama negs Goku and the verse while eating a taco
Kid spotted 🤫
@@kakarott233cry
@@Shinji240 Buu is fodder, Saitama one shots
@@Shinji240 Buu never destroyed infinity LOL. The best he did was collapse the boundaries between dimensions which isn't even a real Universal+ feat. Buu is overrated and fodder, an Ichigo victim lmao 😂
@@Shinji240 "buu destroyed infinity" that sentence alone conceded the fact you're an idiot
shos me where he go all out agg
against garou show me stop acting stupid fam u can clearly see bro was entertaining garou with one hand to beat the crap out of him he even said it himself he wasn't trying to kill him make it make sense goku will never be on saitama lvl make goku fans keep fooling yall
kid buu beats saitama lmao
Saitama slama fam 💀 his debunks where trash not even debunks just calims
goku claps midtama and jjk verse 😂
@@klyzer5725 drop ur dc
W JDA FORCA 😭
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Saitama slams the verse. Everyone knows this already.
Literally nobody agrees with this Saitama gets bootyfucked lmao
who tf told u this😭😭 saitama gets his ass handed to him by buuhan let alone mui goku
@@invazee Proof?
@@KiraYBAbuuhan screamed so hard it almost made the universe destory
@@SpeedyMilan12cool, saitama still slams
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