Here's Shadow of War's endgame (Shadow Wars gameplay)
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2017
- Take a look at Middle-earth: Shadow of War's endgame, a multi-stage affair called The Shadow Wars, which asks you to defend your fortresses against Sauron's forces.
This video is based on a trip to Monolith in Seattle. Warner Bros paid for flights and accommodation.
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I really hope this isn't the end of the "Shadow Of" series. I kinda want a Trilogy.
Nocturne well if Monolith can once, if they can do it twice,then they sure as hell can do it thrice.
From what I understand, the DLC introduce a shitton of characters though.
I'd love a spin-off called something like "Shadow of Mirkwood" that takes place in Mirkwood Forrest as it is being corrupted.
maybe the third one is set in the Fourth Age and Talion is the bad guy uniting the now scattered orcs to fight Gondor. Middle Earth: Shadow of Vengence.
Believe it or not I would actually love to see the series get milked as long as the games are great. However monolith can only do so much with a game set in the universe where everything has already been established. We already know Talion either has to lose or give up eventually. Honestly I would like a side game showing what would happen if they killed talion first. Would he save his family? Or would his wife/son become the gravewalker in his stead?
Wait I think this was what Aragorn was doing for 50 years.
I had wanted an Aragorn skin in Shadow of War. Until I realized that an Aragorn skin would just be Talion in a different outfit...
A bit thinner jaw I think, less of a round face...
Are you calling Talion fat?!
GeneralSnuggly do you not know who Sean bean is?! BLASPHEMY
Yes
It kind of sucks that the enemy makes smart remarks and the such when they break down the wall like in the original gameplay reveal but our own orcs don't...
May be our orcs Will speak like that... this videos are from demo version so there is hope
...nope
It does because that footage was the real game this demo version is the game we got it's been water down so fucking bad it's still a good game but I wanted to the play the first gameplay we got to see
X24assassins YES i want that too its still looking awesome
I like how talion is just quite the whole time the Orcs trash talk.
I really hope Monolith comes up with one more 'Shadow of' game to make it a trilogy, thoroughly enjoyed Shadow of War
That crossbow execution of Talion is straight up brutal.
Right, imagine resurrecting from that n having to take em out. Ouch.
Words cannot describe how hyped I am for this game... I've actually dreamt, like no joke DREAMT of playing this game.
Jova Nova Cant wait either. Loved raising my minions up to general then slicing their head off lol.
Assassin yeah man it's one of my favorite games of all time.
Assassin i dream aboud it too! I have 400 h in first one and its only game that i play with computer or ps4!
I loved the shit out of the original game, it came out of nowhere and won game of the year, the action and controlls were simply impeccable, and the game was so dense, there was always an enemy around, the stealth portions were so much fun too. Its one of my favorite games ever. I would have loved it if there was more to do :/ bcause after finishing the game and all the sidequests all there was to do was kill low level orcs here and there. I also allways hoped that we could controll our captains at a higher level of demands, and my wish has come true! Now you can make huge sieges and do tons of cool shit
Jova Nova I had a dream about it too but when I woke, it felt terrible
Would be cool to see Sauron be part of the Shadow Wars and turning your captains against you (unless they're loyal) just like in the Bright Lord dlc.
I don't think we should take the "ties in to LOTR" too seriously. These games, while very cool and enjoyable, are really not canon. I mean, Sauron doesn't even forge the one ring in the games. I personally don't concern myself with how all of this fits into the canon LOTR timeline.
They basically say "fuck canon!" and have fun with the setting. Pretty much full creative freedom, and they seem pretty enthusiastic about the game on the streams.
Sauron does forge the one ring. He has Celebrimbor refine it.
+Austin Heath that doesn't really matter, it's still deviates completely from the events of the book
Very true. Just wanted to point out that he does. Technically speaking, lore wise, Celebrimbor himself doesn't actually forge the rings canonically.
Austin Heath Celebrimbor only forged the three Elven rings.
Shadow of The Ring - Talion's Revenge
dude yes
Oh my gosh Y E S
You said that sauron try to take back mordor so it means that in the end of the game he is still alive and the series is not over
Assassin you can't know
Assassin ok I believe that
Assassin I just want more lotr games
Gravewalker do you have a link of them saying that? Not saying I don't believe you but I wanna see for myself, I'm in denial lol
DragonFane123 Come on, people... He's clearly lying, the devs haven't said a word about this being the last "Shadow Of" game in the franchise. Unless this game becomes a spectacular and colossal failure, it won't be the end for the franchise. I'm sure WB would love to publish yet another sequel to this game should it be successful and should it do well on sales. Also keep in mind that even if Talion/Celembribor somehow dies for real in the ending, it doesn't mean it's the ending for the entire franchise. Monolith hasn't been giving a shit if their game is canon or not, so I don't see why they wouldn't mess with the LOTR lore once again just to make another Shadow Of game.
I think the next shadow of game will be shadow of Orcs because during blade of galadriel expansion there was a orc saying there was a orc left middle earth with a drake with him traveling another realm
I'd love to see a sequel where you play as one of saurons nazghul.
Tear of Grace: Alright. Let's keep this fortress from being taken away from my buttery fingers. Who's leading these assholes today?
Uruk leader: Rrrraaaarr!!!
Tear: ...nooo...
Prak Jaws: RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!
I think it would be interesting to see a third game with a new protagonist, in which Talion gets corrupted by his own ring and goes bad, and it's up to the new character to come in and basically wipe out everything we built up over the last two games. It would be amazing to duke it out with our own most powerful war chiefs and stuff. I keep imagining this new protagonist as Tauriel since she kinda just... *leaves* at the end of the Hobbit trilogy and is PROBABLY still alive, but obviously it doesn't have to be her. Still, would be cool, though.
Seeing those grates on the throne room floor makes me somewhat worried all the boss fights will follow the same pattern, whacking the enemy while avoiding fire, instead of having a variety of unique obstacles.
I think there have been some footage shown where an Archer Overlord has snipers posted on the upper levels.
Dane B Kappler They are there but they aren't always used there has been gameplay where they haven't
They're not all like that - I took on a few fortresses and none of them had fire pit Overlords.
Did they have poison pits or something similar, i think the original comment was more along the lines of "avoiding elemental damage". is your comment still true Eurogamer that they dont all have pits?
GamerGeddon02 Poison pits and curse pits as well as traps or mines there was even a graug once
180+ hours into the game and I only hear about this mode now.....
Finally fortress defense gameplay!
Hei nice vid. Thank you! Did Monolith tell you the answer about the defending of the fortress? Do we have to defend them also during the main campaign?
During shadow wars can you do the other side quest lines if you have not finished them such as shadows of the past? Yes or no?
Also can you retake the fort Minas Morgul from the witch king? If so how do active this? It doesn’t show up as a mission like the 4 other forts
The shadow wars leading to the true ending is super clever. It gives you incentive to keep playing after you beat it.
So does that mean we have to finish the story before the Dark Lord starts attacking us? That's kinda boring, I'd rather him attack during the whole game.
But that is just as boring, make it completely random and endless, providing uncertainty whilst at the same time not doing it in scale and instead making the size of the force random too.
Sam Fischbeck No the devs said in one of their live streams that fortress defense missions will still happen at the beginning just not as much because they don't want it to happen while you're about to or in a mission but when it's done the randomizer will make it more prevalent.
Alot has changed since then though. we have to be careful we dont forget that the game is still under development. we need more updated information now.
No, there are random attacks before the Shadow War but you can be unlucky and never having it in action
Geesh nothing's perfect bro lol
Why does talion look like that in the shadow wars talion looks different
What are the details of the locked slots for the fortress assaults and the fort defenses? I'm greatly curious.
So the true ending ties in? My question is if that's the case if there's ever another game(s) or movie(s) that take place after LOTR would we see partially friendly orcs because they're with the bright lord/talion or would it follow talion after LOTR fighting and conquering the remaining forces or orcs and sauron
I hope there is endless mode or whatever happens dose not just stop. I like the idea of defending my forts with my ork captains. I hope when this shadow war thing has done it's thing and it ties into lord of the rings we are able to keep playing defending/attacking forts open world etc. Nothing worse than a game after the hours and hours spent to just finish with no option to keep going
Guys does anyone knows what happens if u do all the main missions before completing the other ones? ( with bruz n carnan...ect)
It's nice to see a studio focus on playability beyond the end of the game. That's all too rare, as far as I'm concerned. Still don't like the MTX but I'm assuming that isn't Monolith's idea.
can i kill an enemy captain or chief and then immediately res him to my side? or do they already have to be on my side for me to then res him?
Does anyone know if they've changed the PC spec requirements? I thought they released the req's really early, a lot earlier than most games. With the end of production prioritizing polish and optimization, a lot can change in 6 -10 months, even the last 2-3 months in game production a lot can change, so I'm curious if the initial PC req's they released over 6 months ago are the same.
Can you capture their warlord and then wait for them to try to rescue him?
Anyone know if I can retake or defend forts again after the shadow wars besides playing online??? Please and thank you
HardBody Crew The Devs in a stream said that it happens before and after the shadow wars but very rarely
So basically, fortress defense are only in endgame? Are the defense still on going while playing story mode? please tell me it's working that way too :(
Ultimate Shifter don't worry you'll still get to defend your forces before the end of the game , they'll just not be as common until you hit the end
Oh I see, thanks! I believe that it was mentioned in one of the livestreams. I was kinda worry about it.
Another question, does the number of units on our back shown in these fortress assault gameplays will be final? I mean, it just looks ridiculous that Talion marched an army to siege a fort but when the attack starts, it turns out to be like we just had about a 100 uruks + captains/warchiefs. Is this going to be final?
What I meant is that its been finalized that the defense gameplay will work that in the release
whats the final stage for depending fortress? m at stage 9.
how many shadow wars stages do you have to do
As a single player gamer, I don't really care much for the micro transactions. They are a problem in today's modern gaming, I won't deny that, but I'm still a fan of this series. I don't think the MTs will affect the gameplay all too much other than avoid the grinding... though I don't want that. The whole point of the nemesis system was to make grinding fun, as the choices you made in that system really affected how Sauron's army functioned. It gave the world a lot of depth and it looks like it certainly has improved here.
I still don't like micro transactions, though I suppose nowadays it's common. I wasn't surprised when I saw these anyways. Most gaming businesses nowadays have poured boatloads of money into projects such as these, and I suppose this is their way of making some of that money back without sacrificing more resources on making extra DLC.
Generally speaking, the modern game market is a vast improvement over the "good ole' days". In the old days, most games weren't even supported very long and there was no new content at all. You would get full blown sequels every few years but honestly, I prefer this system to that.
The most annoying game to me is GTA 5, which specifically took out party mode on purpose to get people online and into their dumbass MT system.
Wait how do you still have Celebrimbor even though you are doing the shadow wars mission and you are nazgul Tatlion how do you still have Celebrimbor?
Could someone tell me why I can still see carnan and bruz missions even though I'm in shadow wars?
man I was honestly hoping for an endless mode lol, maybe it just goes on wit the random fort stuff after you beat the shadow attacks, may seem mindless and boring but I would really enjoy that honestly
Overlord1219 yes thats coming in DLC
My only question regarding this is that after we complete Shadow Wars and receive the True Ending are we still able to free roam in the open world? Since this is an open world RPG that also happens to include microtransactions for gear/orcs I would think the answer would be an obvious "yes" but I just want to make sure.
so youre saying only time you get to defend your fortress from attacks is after the story?
Oh wow, I think the graphics are getting way better now!
LowkeyOfSassgard that's not even the half of it, every one is playing an E3 build and the devs said it'll look different in release
They said in a recent stream that it supports 4k so I'd assume it would be much better
Really can see more of this game in the future
fortress siege + free flow combat
im sold
I was confused about this. Thanks
How many stages are there in the shadow wars?
so as im starting to find, to do the quest the best ndefense, I first need to beat the game, I dont know story details, all I know is that I need to completet this qest to get to the damaged mision, where I have heard your follower from SOM comes along, which I really wanted him with me on my conquests across mordor, please tell me I am wrong and correct me, I wated to take my follwer to the end, not have to beat the game to get to him
If we finish shadow wars stages can we do them again?
Yes
How do you still have the new new ring
If you branded an uruk in som and level him up, he doesn't get new traits. Do they get any new traits here?
yes they do, since they can lvl up
I have a question. Do the siege defense missions run out after a time? Or do they last until you go to do them?
They never run out, you can do them whenever you want to.
Suspicious Superintendent or fuck of be lazy and Google the ending 😂😂😂
Man, I was hoping these Were Endless
This is my theory there will be a third game and it will be about either Talion breaking free and fighting Sauron and indirectly helping the Fellowship or it will be a side story where a enslaved Talion is fighting Celebrimbor. My other theory is that Talion is that Ringwraith in the First Film that's looking over the log Frodo is hiding under and I bet he's the Ringwraith that gets "You want him come and claim him!" said to him it would be so epic if Talion was tied to the movies. I also suspect he might be the Witch King in the Films some how.
After the credits can you still continue?
Wait there is a story dlc season pass in the gold edition shouldnt that continue the story after the main game? Considering everyone will have beaten the game by the time the dlcs are released?
Boss J Desano that was crap in batman also :/ i hope at least we get to play as likeable charaters like shelob xP
Has anyone found the original gameplay video for this? Hungry for some SoW gameplay...
I think it would be a lot of fun for the devs to take the next game take place AFTER the War of the Ring. Its territory Tolkien vaguely described and it would be a ton of fun to see how different cultures/factions react. King Aragorn could maybe send you on a mission to quell the eastern/Southern Human kingdoms who refuse to kneel for instance, lots of possibilities IMO.
If they make a third I think what’d I want to see is a spin-off game about torvin and his journey that led him to meeting Talion.
Anyone know how many stages in the Shadow Wars? I just hit stage 10.
This is 100% not there last one cause there nemesis system is probably the best game system ive seen so far, it makes everyone's gameplay unique and special
Great vid, was wondering if u had a opinion on how fun the game was when u played it
It's good fun! I made a video about the little things I like, if you want to check that out (Johnny)
Eurogamer cheers johnny, looking forward to more content!
I really hope we get 3rd game. Started replaying this on my ps5. Never finished before on PS4. Got you like lvl 55+ then go distracted with another new game and forget about it. Now back re enjoying it.
This post game mode sounds great, makes there be a point to building up all your forts. It being a challenge mode is nice b/c shadow of mordor was too easy.
Im more interested in the multiplayer part of tis game. Dont really know where to find much info.
If this one turns out great, i would love a "Shadow of Middle Earth" sequel to finish off the series. It would be cool to roam around middle earth, the nemesis system would require some changes though.
👋 questions: can you dominate orcs after the bright lord mission? And what happens to the garrison, after this mission to the already dominated orcs.
Can't wait to buy boxes in this too.
László Kovács sarcasm?
Can anyone help me out? I maxed my character to 80 before endgame , so my shadow wars fort defense is extremely challenging (orcs usually level 75-85 and all legendary/epic). I’ve tried numerous times but kept failing, I’ve retaken the forts like 3 times each. Does this ever end? Or do I need to succeed in a fortress defense in all regions? Thanks a bunch fellas 🤙🏻😄.
Have you completed it?
The same has happened to me!!!💔
I have done the shadow wars it ties into the film cannon
Is it an endless things of fortress assaults once you finish one assault
Thank God I need them Ûruks, gear, XP, Miran, and more content
Awesome , I been waiting to see a fort defense, I almost thought they didn't exist and that it would just be some quick menu event , I'm glad this is included, cause after you beat shadow of mordor, there isn't anything to do besides manipulating orcs , and at 150 hours on shadow of mordor, I got quite bored just killing orcs or Branding the entire menu
As much as i'd like a trilogy in this series, my favourite thing is the nemesis system and imagine what monolith could make if that was taken into other games as well.....
Holy fuck. That crossbow kill.
So if you die they take the fort. Even if it's the final enemy orc that does it and all of your warchiefs are still alive? Because that would suck
10/10 everything that i would want from a rpg adventure game
What happened to the dark ring? Do you get to decide to use it over that pitty elf ?
Perhaps a prequel about calabrimbor I know we got the bright lord dlc but it just doesn't feel like enough
That Orc was only a 47!!
wait why are you still the bright lord and not dark tallion
this end game looks freaking amazing they should keep it going forever so it never ends or add a new game plus idea
How many stages?
Well this is gonna be a couple of rage from myself when defending
I would say that once the one ring Is destroyed both Sauron and Celebrimbor die but since Celebrimbor has made a new ring and bound himself within talion I think he may linger on middle earth a while longer
What's after the shadow wars
I really hope they will have a trials of war mode again but with u having to capture fortresses
1:09 I hope I wasn't the only one to notice that. He was a legendary weapons master. Hope I find one of them, with an iron will, so it can be my nemesis.
If they make a third "Shadow of" game, I'd LOVE to see it be about Talion taking over Mordor after the LotR series to crush the remaining Orc/Uruk/Olog resistance and become the true lord of Mordor
In Lord of the rings talion was in the background of the first one so I think it was thought about long ago
original video?
Isn't talon supposed to be part nazgul
Wait so your fortress don't get attack mid-game/mid-story? If all you are doing in the story is to beef up your fortresses to defend against the final push, it kind of hints that the story might not be longer than the Shadow of Mordor.
splinteridiot no the devs have stated your forts will occasionally be attacked. as to how much. im unsure of that
gameexpert133 yea I just remember in their early streams and in one the game trailers they mention sauron forces will try to counter attack. I guess when Eurogamer mention "in gameplay terms it basically means getting to explore the flip side of the coin when it comes to fortress assault" (1:04) causes some confusion.
gameexpert133 It has also been confirmed that your own Overlords may betray you and take the fortress for themselves. But that is a very rare occurrence.
I think that talion will become the next dark lord in the game franchise
if they are going to make another shadow of series then it would be cool if they either go forward where someone else takes sauron's place or to go back to before sauron in defeating Melkor. Maybe if they do go for the Next heir in Sauron's place, you play as the next one or one of two likely people to and can either stop the other and save middle earth or become its ruler.
Honestly I think if it leads into LOTR at the end I think talion will finally die, since Celebrimbor is connected to Sauron when Sauron dies Celebrimbor's spirit will move on to vallinor and talion dies.
They better make a new one if these
So...can i have endless shadow wars? Like i take a fortress and they take it back and i take it again... Like this?
wooooo finally news about defending your fortress
I think it is well done that the dark lord starts attacking after finishing the story game and conquering all the fortresses because if you do not have enough skills and achievements how could someone defeat him so i think it is well paced and awesome. I have been playing it for a few days non-stop and i love the game story quests and side missions s well.
I can't wait for the third game in this franchise! It's going to be in an alternate universe, where Talion and his orc army take over Middle Earth!
Getting a serious Anthony Hopkins vibe from the orc at the start
Third game? We are now the lord of shadow trying to conquest the middle-earth, thats will be original. Be the bad guy!