SMT: Nocturne Hardtype - Ahriman (Low Level)

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  • Опубликовано: 27 фев 2021
  • Calm the heck down zombero.
    / jimsonlytweet1
    Rules:
    - This is a low level run of zombero's hardtype mod: www.romhacking.net/hacks/3299/
    - The aim is to keep XP gain as low as possible without affecting my sanity.
    - Hard mode, obviously
    - No stat boosting items
    - All other game mechanics are fair game!
    Hardtype changes:
    - Phase 1 HP: 6000 → 36000
    - Phase 2 HP: 18000 → 55000
    Ahriman's combined forms have the most HP of anything in the game. Even Kagutsuchi's forms "only" have 80000. What the hell? Outside of that this battle is largely unchanged. Everyone should resist magic to avoid being 2HKO'd by his spells. At least one phys immune ally is essential too to stop Tentacle spam later on, and those who aren't immune should still resist. Demi didn't get to learn Void Ice yet and predictably I got a wipe to double Bufudyne, the odds of which are comically unlikely. Classic cturne.
    Because of his beefy HP we are forced to engage with his meta "this is but a game" phase a little more, as the final stretch forbids healing. The rules he puts in place are based on his remaining HP, and for the most part we can switch between magic and physical attacks, focussing when we're allowed and using items to heal if necessary. When he forbids summoning, this is your last opportunity to heal up. Make sure everyone is focussed too. He will then forbid spells and items - unleash a barrage of attacks. After this comes healing and items, which allows you to focus up again. Finally comes everything but physicals - one more round of focussed hits should be enough to end phase one. Amazingly I found a genuine use for Drain Attack here, since it's still allowed amongst all of this.
    Phase 2 is actually easier than phase 1. We're now free to go all out with our usual focused physicals & fishing for shocks with Mjolnir. It's important to heal up at the end of each round so we don't risk dying to Apocalypse + Megidolaon (don't worry, he can't double Apocalypse). The upper limit of damage here is just under 700, but Wu Kong is the only one really at risk of dying and he has Endure as a safety net. Dark Sword's HP scaling is kind of annoying here, since we often end up having to attack on low HP, but its huge 45% crit rate doesn't disappoint.
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Комментарии • 104

  • @totaldestruction152
    @totaldestruction152 3 года назад +208

    "Physical attacks are forbidden."
    *Demi-fiend will remember that*

  • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
    @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +241

    zombero: *Includes Silent Prayer in this mod*
    also zombero: *Doesn't give it to the literal god of silence*
    ...whatever. We're on the home stretch now peeps.

    • @lysithea6074
      @lysithea6074 3 года назад +3

      Sorry dumb question but who is the god of silence?

    • @glettoo
      @glettoo 3 года назад +5

      @@lysithea6074​

    • @t-universegamer7609
      @t-universegamer7609 3 года назад +10

      @@lysithea6074 Ahriman?

    • @QuantemDeconstructor
      @QuantemDeconstructor 3 года назад +3

      thought Ahriman was the zoroastrian take on the devil, either way he shoulda had it

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +55

      @@QuantemDeconstructor Oh yeah, I meant within the game's story rather than his real world lore, he is literally the god Hikawa summons to bring about a world of silence.

  • @Bucketgetter
    @Bucketgetter 3 года назад +110

    7:03 -Jim Reaper, March 2020

    • @FungalFury
      @FungalFury 3 года назад +4

      Oh jesus I just realized it's been almost a year :(

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +19

      @@FungalFury It took me 3 years to finish my first LL nocturne hard run, this is a baby hiatus by comparison :P

    • @YurificationTrademark
      @YurificationTrademark Год назад

      mf has been MIA for 3/4 of a year now :(

  • @tengu6160
    @tengu6160 3 года назад +64

    I assumed the week break was for the great farming of Luster Candy 2021

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +49

      I farmed a second batch of 20 before this. Probably need one last batch for the final boss. Wish me luck.

    • @Ashcoop
      @Ashcoop 3 года назад +18

      I wish I can just buy Emeralds with 10000 Macca or something...

    • @bullblood_fan17
      @bullblood_fan17 3 года назад +12

      @@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe must be funnier than grinding for AP in dds....

    • @Gato-be2jr
      @Gato-be2jr 2 года назад +1

      @@bullblood_fan17 nope grinding APs is infinitily funnier

  • @james1328
    @james1328 3 года назад +41

    Reject world of stillness
    Return to monke

  • @apocalfailed8090
    @apocalfailed8090 3 года назад +138

    Because having a combined HP of 91000 is totally acceptable.

    • @dmua9551
      @dmua9551 3 года назад +30

      I mean, the Reason bosses have a lot of HP but they also by nature have much lower defense than previous ones, causing them to take a lot more damage

  • @maykosantiago2085
    @maykosantiago2085 3 года назад +147

    "Spell Attacks are forbidden."
    Immediately casts ZIodyne.

    • @flipperjr.3822
      @flipperjr.3822 3 года назад +46

      Hey, just because he made the rules doesn't mean he has to follow them.

    • @ajkhan1115
      @ajkhan1115 3 года назад +24

      Ahrihikawa is a Republican?

    • @GrindyVine
      @GrindyVine 2 года назад +7

      ​@@flipperjr.3822 fair point

  • @richardf3217
    @richardf3217 3 года назад +33

    The Kotowari boss track is still so damn good after all these years. It's hardly the only great song in the game, but they might have the most narrative weight behind them for me, even more than Kagutsuchi or Metatron's point of no return. The final chords are fantastic.

  • @Chr1s_1986
    @Chr1s_1986 3 года назад +21

    Damn the reason boss music is still the best i absolutly love it.

  • @0phan7om0
    @0phan7om0 3 года назад +37

    When i did this fight for the first time way back, i was really scared going into the second phase that the last rule would carry over. Granted his dialogue basically tells you it doesn't, but i was a dumb child.

    • @garrettvance6243
      @garrettvance6243 3 года назад +8

      I can see how scary that would be. Imagine if that was with physical attacks. Unless you went with a magic build Demi-Fiend would just be a brick.

  • @flynn1545
    @flynn1545 3 года назад +39

    Ahriman Chungus.

    • @Sneedboy
      @Sneedboy 3 года назад +2

      Haven’t you got a black hole to open up?

    • @flynn1545
      @flynn1545 3 года назад +10

      @@Sneedboy To eliminate Latino America? Yes.

    • @Sneedboy
      @Sneedboy 3 года назад +6

      @@flynn1545 damn. Maybe next playthrough you should do the White Ending

  • @CozieGhosty
    @CozieGhosty Год назад +11

    "Games are meaningless in a world of silence." Sounds like someone was mad because they were losing at a game they made up...

  • @ntrg3248
    @ntrg3248 3 года назад +41

    I can't imagine being able to farm all the money for all this fusion without the Kalpa tunnels

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 3 года назад +12

      I think the poor bastard has to play the Pyro Jack game over and over.

    • @GrindyVine
      @GrindyVine 3 года назад +9

      @@demi-femme4821 ugh, that Pyro Jack game, yeah

  • @LordWallace
    @LordWallace 3 года назад +30

    I did not know that about his HP, tf Zombero. No wonder he seemed to never die when I played this hack

  • @PriestOfTheHelix
    @PriestOfTheHelix 3 года назад +12

    Oh boy 2:00 AM, time to watch Jim play Nocturne.

  • @aly5513
    @aly5513 3 года назад +18

    SHADOW HYPE SHADOW HYPE SHADOW HYPE!!!!!

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +15

      Shadow fan eh? As of this vid all the gasfaceblob variants have been used in this run (albeit Mou-Ryo was only for skill morphs before the Matador fight, but he still played an essential role)

    • @aly5513
      @aly5513 3 года назад +14

      @@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe Of course I'm a Gasfaceblob fan. They need love and attention even if their too stupid to talk

    • @bullblood_fan17
      @bullblood_fan17 3 года назад +3

      @@aly5513 all the foul clan except for sakahagi has two weaknesses, i feel bad for shadow especially since he is the only one that i actually like :(

  • @VelvaPandy
    @VelvaPandy 3 года назад +16

    Not as beefy as you, daddy Jim.

    • @CereDulce37
      @CereDulce37 3 года назад +8

      😳🥵🥵 and that loincloth wearing stud Loki too 🥵🥵

  • @TheCrimsonWolf
    @TheCrimsonWolf 3 года назад +10

    That's a spicy meatball

  • @chestnut1563
    @chestnut1563 2 года назад +4

    Shoutout to Albion for carrying my sorry sad axx in this fight

  • @megatenshi
    @megatenshi 3 года назад +8

    91000 hp is cool and all, but where's your monke resistance Ahriman?

  • @lilithramirez7719
    @lilithramirez7719 3 года назад +13

    I bet that Noah's going to be one of the most annoying fights of the run.

  • @peropero2208
    @peropero2208 2 года назад +2

    Breaking news:Funny tatoo man defeats a giant nutcracker with the help of a fart,L'oreal sponsor and a monkey from the chinese black market

  • @zmslayer69
    @zmslayer69 3 года назад +7

    I never played nocturne and holy shit this game has a lot of bosses.

  • @darrenthesleepybird3355
    @darrenthesleepybird3355 3 года назад +24

    Stubborn Old Man who wishes teens would be quiet refuses to lose quickly. "I'll just level my Vigor, that'll show those kids."

  • @m_e_nere
    @m_e_nere 3 года назад +1

    This guy always looks cool

  • @pinkstarmona1695
    @pinkstarmona1695 3 года назад +2

    Oh boi 2 am upload

  • @frankcooper3737
    @frankcooper3737 3 года назад +8

    Finally almost at the end, are you at the final party now?

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +15

      Demons still come and go, but there are some that are going all the way to the end now, or close enough. Monke, birb, laughing horseman and support bae from this vid

  • @bigdingus9333
    @bigdingus9333 3 года назад +2

    Hey Jim, how did you get this working? I’ve tried everything to emulate and it won’t work. Any help?

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +2

      What's your issue? Is it running poorly, or have you got transparency issues, or will it just not boot up at all? I can try and help with the first 2 but probably not the latter

  • @Mrspeedwarrior2
    @Mrspeedwarrior2 3 года назад +1

    *quietly anticipating funny fly lady*

  • @Alpha4706_
    @Alpha4706_ 3 года назад +5

    After this run I have some ideas for other challenge runs. Like maybe hard type without demons or like jack brother only run

    • @tairanomasakado5878
      @tairanomasakado5878 3 года назад +4

      Someone's already doing a Hardtype solo run. They're up to the Archangels/Futomimi now. Name is Ashcoop.

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +18

      Honestly there is endless potential for meme runs that I will almost definitely return to in future, but I'm very very done with this game rn

    • @steelpython6634
      @steelpython6634 3 года назад +3

      @@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe lol i would imagine

    • @tairanomasakado5878
      @tairanomasakado5878 3 года назад +1

      @Dávid Walter Counter only? I did one where I fought each boss with their demon counterpart, if that's what you mean. But that's on vanilla hard mode, not hardtype.

    • @Alpha4706_
      @Alpha4706_ 3 года назад +1

      @@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe dds 2

  • @a_seraph
    @a_seraph 3 года назад +2

    How do you have the patience to get the skill changes you want? For like midgame and early game

  • @grilledcheezvirtualoniisan8670
    @grilledcheezvirtualoniisan8670 3 года назад +2

    That sure is one beefy boi

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 2 года назад +6

    Ahriman is usually piss easy because you can effortlessly set up buffs to the point where phase 2 means nothing.
    In Hardtype, you can only go up to +2, so phase 2 is at least something.

    • @chestnut1563
      @chestnut1563 2 года назад +2

      Funnily, i never had problem with phase 2. The only thing that scares me is the Apocalypse+Megidolaon combo and the stupid rules on Phase 1.
      Phase 1 really dragged, and last 2x longer than phase 2

  • @joshuamedina6807
    @joshuamedina6807 3 года назад +6

    Technically Raidou version Lucy and his Diarahan at 1/3 health means he has an effective 100k hp making him slightly beefier than this boi

    • @kameronjohnson3888
      @kameronjohnson3888 3 года назад +1

      So how beefy will lucifer be in this hack?

    • @demi-femme4821
      @demi-femme4821 3 года назад +2

      @@kameronjohnson3888 I think that Lucifer's max HP hits some kind of interger cap.
      Like, they gave him as much HP as they physically could.

  • @nr2676
    @nr2676 3 года назад +3

    Wukong MVP

  • @unbubbletea
    @unbubbletea 3 года назад +2

    Any reason in particular you're putting points into Agility now?

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +9

      I figured the last few points could go into Str, Ag or Luck and it wouldn't make too much difference. I noticed throughout the run that sometimes Demi would whiff attacks even with full speed buff stacks so I went with Ag to try and stop this. Granted the whiffs were when I was using the less accurate Hell Thrust. Anyway, without knowing exactly how zombero changed the stat formulae it's impossible to know the best way to minmax here. In the end it looks like the extra agility is giving me favourable turn order for the final bosses which is the most important thing, so I guess I made the right call without thinking about it too hard.

  • @juliofigueroa5567
    @juliofigueroa5567 3 года назад +3

    Persona 6 looking crazy

  • @pootisbootfromdiscord8678
    @pootisbootfromdiscord8678 3 года назад +4

    holy heckin shit

  • @lemmon_Grove2533
    @lemmon_Grove2533 2 года назад +3

    luster candy is a thing in nocturne? i sure could have used that in my play-through

    • @heeho5495
      @heeho5495 2 года назад +4

      It's only in the hardtype mod created by zombero as a consumable item, not the original game

    • @lemmon_Grove2533
      @lemmon_Grove2533 2 года назад +3

      @@heeho5495 damn

  • @toxas3063
    @toxas3063 3 года назад +6

    1:46 bruh I thought physical attacks were forbidden, what a cheater

  • @gamerice2477
    @gamerice2477 3 года назад +1

    I can't wait any longer for the remake, People of youtube should I get the original or wait. I'm ready to suffer through anything!

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +2

      You have to really love this game to suffer through the random skill inheritance of OG. But if you were thinking of playing this mod it's unlikely you'll be able to play it on the remake for the forseeable future since its creator has been AWOL for years.

    • @The_PolterGhost
      @The_PolterGhost 3 года назад +1

      @@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe To be fair, the actual changes made could be replicated, to a point. Skill changes, enemy and player stats, etc. You'd have to make up better formulae and make your own AI changes, but maybe PC Hardtype would end up a better experience out of someone rebalancing it further. The same can be said for the opposite, though, especially depending on the type of person that makes it.

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +2

      @@The_PolterGhost Yeah the stat changes would be simple enough to replicate albeit time consuming, but the new damage formulae are real nice and it would be a shame to redo that when he already perfectly fixed it.

  • @nr2676
    @nr2676 3 года назад +3

    Uzubae :D

  • @Kanzuki
    @Kanzuki 3 года назад +1

    What's that theme at the start?

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +5

      Large Map - Last Area. Along with the real world large map, the most criminally underused theme in the game

    • @Kanzuki
      @Kanzuki 3 года назад +1

      @@JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe Thanks! For some reason I thought it was a theme from one of Raidou Kuzunoha's games

  • @swausgaming23123
    @swausgaming23123 3 года назад +4

    Two uploads within 24 hours? What is this witchcraft?

    • @joshuamedina6807
      @joshuamedina6807 3 года назад +4

      Jim tends to upload in waves expect the next reason bosses in the next 24 hours

  • @paulstillman4949
    @paulstillman4949 3 года назад +1

    Skill changes aren't cash this time

  • @CosmicEncounter7
    @CosmicEncounter7 3 года назад +3

    Feels like a lazy edit honestly. They could've done something like, you know, made him do more damage in first form. Mithra could do 600ish with megidola, why not have ahriman do more than like 140. I know he was debuffed and you were buffed, but c'mon lol, he does appropriate damage in his second form.

    • @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe
      @JimReaperSaysUnsubscribe  3 года назад +5

      He does do wayyy more damage than vanilla tbf. You gotta remember everyone here resists phys/magic, this is a pretty specialized setup
      Some new moves or improvements to his Dekaja/Dekunda AI would've been nice though... (yes he has both Dekaja and Dekunda, not that you'd know it)

    • @FungalFury
      @FungalFury 3 года назад +1

      From what I understand the changes to both ahriman and mithra aren't actual stat buffs but just effects of changing the magic system

  • @DMSwordsmaster
    @DMSwordsmaster 7 месяцев назад +1

    This fight really encapsulates what I don't like about this mod. Simple fact is, when you do nothing but jack the HP of the bosses up by like five times the amount or other stupid garbage like that, especially for excessively simple bosses that _weren't designed around that,_ the fights just stop being interesting and turn into a complete slog. Like. What is engaging about essentially following the same set of turns for friggin twenty minutes??
    The only part of any sort of value is the first form with the rule gimmick. The second form is nothing but "deal big numbers", and that's literally it for _ten minutes._ Ten friggin minutes of the same tiny batch of skills from the boss.
    Seriously, how is this fun? It isn't even hard, it's just boring.