How Every Smash Character Has Changed in HDR
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Yes you aren't double taking, every single character's new moves, taunts, fixes, buff/nerfs in a condensed format, Mario to Sora here's how they changed! Some characters have more to say about them then others, and this is only representive of the current build of HDR. Here's how every single character has changed from Smash Ultimate to HDR.
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0:00 Intro
1:44 Mario
2:29 Donkey Kong
3:22 Link
3:50 Samus
4:34 Dark Samus
5:53 Yoshi
6:13 Kirby
6:59 Fox
7:35 Pikachu
8:13 Luigi
8:56 Ness
10:23 Captain Falcon
11:20 Jigglypuff
11:55 Peach (Correction Tilt forward Smash was added in ult)
12:35 Daisy
13:14 Bowser
14:28 Ice Climbers
15:24 Sheik
16:16 Zelda
17:12 Dr. Mario
17:52 Pichu
18:41 Falco
19:10 Marth
19:25 Lucina
19:50 Young Link
20:27 Ganondorf
21:20 Mewtwo
21:33 Roy
22:02 Chrom
22:20 Game and Watch
22:34 Meta Knight
23:09 Pit
23:21 Dark Pit
24:06 Zero Suit Samus
24:55 Wario
25:25 Snake
26:21 Ike
26:51 Pokemon Trainer
27:19 Diddy Kong
28:00 Lucas
28:38 Sonic
29:43 King Dedede
30:16 Olimar
30:30 Lucario
31:26 ROB
32:00 Toon Link
32:14 Wolf
32:50 Villager (*his 3rd Hit of Jab was added in Ultimate, mandella effect my b)
33:30 Mega Man
34:20 Wii-Fit Trainer
34:39 Rosalina (she got mega-buffed lmao)
36:06 Little Mac (finally not a low tier?)
37:27 Greninja
37:50 Palutena
38:50 Pac Man
39:04 Robin (the meter isn't new)
40:29 Shulk
40:41 Bowser Jr.
41:11 Duck Hunt (insane buffs)
42:12 Ryu
43:33 Ken
44:11 Cloud
44:48 Corrin
45:24 Bayonetta
46:22 Inkling
46:46 Ridley
47:22 Simon
47:45 Ritcher
48:07 King K Rool (Back Air doesn't have a Boxing Glove in Ult, my b was thinking of PMEX)
49:08 Isabelle
49:44 Incineroar
50:15 Piranha Plant
51:05 Joker
51:25 Hero
51:51 Banjo
52:50 Terry
53:07 Byleth
53:35 Min-Min
54:20 Steve
55:31 Sephiroth
56:18 Pyra Mythra
56:48 Kazuya
57:40 Sora
58:18 Mii Fighters (Brawler/Sword Fighter/Gunner)
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Ayo Happy Holidays. If there's anything you want to add to the video that didn't make it you can reply to this comment, or if anything becomes outdated in a future update.
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Next week there will be a Pokemon Video (I haven't done a Pokemon video in a long time wanted to do one again!)
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Pyra and mythra can hit cancel with down b, and pyra's strong hits are on her tippers, so she can combo into mythra's moves if she is close enough. Mythra's up b can also be single hit so if she does press b again, she can use an aerial
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missing on yoshi's double jump cancel is crazy. i know all chars with a similar rising dj got the change but it makes yoshi way cooler
M2 Fair Hitbox also got reverted to the PM Variant, so it pops the enemy up instead of killing horizontally
Zelda can cancel attacks into the down-b phantom on hit, pretty huge change
Peach changing which weapon she uses for her forward smash with the control stick is already in Ultimate
How so?
@@teenageapple3788 By tilting the control stick while charging her Forward Smash. Holding it directly forwards uses her golf club, upwards uses her frying pan, and downwards uses her tennis racket.
Yeah I thought that as well, for such a large scale video tho there's bound to be mistakes
There are a few parts of the video where things like this are said for example Robin already has a meter for all of the spells and Levin sword
Yeah there were a lot of things (throughout the entire video) that made me wonder if he even played Ultimate.
One that really stuck out was Ryu, Ken and Terry being able to cancel their moves on hit, and thinking that mechanic was added in HDR.
Oh and grabbing items on the ground with wavedash (because of the airdodge) and calling it "aerial glide tossing".
I'd take at least half the things in this video with a grain of salt.
Was still fun to see the different animations and stuff though.
Honestly I don’t get why they changed ness’s magnet from ultimate. It’s honestly one of the most interesting moves in the game
to put it simply, it ended up being useless in HDR's engine. It was also changed a long time ago so there's always an opportunity to redesign the move
One of the most interesting moves in ult maybe, but hdr isn’t ult
As someone who played Ness in PM and now in Ultimate, Ult magnet makes Ness his best incarnation without a doubt. Even if that’s just cause it made him the most fun. I always thought it would be interesting if it could be jump-cancelled into a wave dash. But maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about.
I am a ness main and ness SUCKS. Hopefully he will get worked on soon :)
@@noether5 He could do that in project M, him and Lucas were like floaty space animals lmao
So i intend this entirely as constructive criticism and not to be rude, but it felt like there was constant misinformation. Either entire new mechanics were missed on characters or misinformation was stated on moves. One example is that banjo has 5 grounded feathers but he has one aerial feather that charges. Another thing is that Aegis' hitswap mechanic was missed entirely along with incin's multiple side b variants along with hitfalling weren't mentioned. It felt like the information was all over the place and missed out on the things that made characters interesting
agreed, definitely needed more research
The worst change to Smash Ultimate was removing Fire Mario.
True
“Steve received a mix of buff and nerfs”
- proceeds to mention only nerfs and then follow that by saying he’s now the worst character in the game
Good.
BAD, BLOCK MAN should be broken @@arbiter771
RIP
To give some information, there arent (to my knowledge) any plans to add newcomers to the mod, mainly because Ultimate has so many characters as is, and adding more would make balancing potentially even harder than it currently is.
Doing things like making Echos more unique is pretty much the same thing anyway if you ask me. This mod is really cool!
I hope they at least consider dipping their toes into making new echo fighters, so they don't have to deal with too much change. Considering they're willing in this mod to have every echo fighter receive tangible changes, I think it would be a great middle ground. They could potentially add Shadow, Black Shadow, Black Knight (lol at all these similar names), Funky Kong, and a few more I'm sure, and while they may not demonstrate the best potential those characters could possibly have in a fighting game, they'll still be different enough to make you go "yep, these guys feel like their character and deserve their half-placemement on the roster".
@@k-leb4671 I'd love to see Zach as a Cloud echo, Roxas as a Sora Echo
I honestly don't think that's the main reason, I think the feasibility of adding new characters to modded ultimate without replacing existing ones is very hard
Pyra/Mythra are hella different. Mythra's side B is a new move with a sweetspot. Her up B can be cancelled into any arial. Also they can instant swap on hit, so you can combo between the two characters in between hits.
Yah I’m surprised he didn’t talk about any of these changes.
He's missed quite a few changes on a few characters.... understandable it's a massive roster
@@Matanumi true it was a big rework of alot of characters. But a lot of the major changes were in the patch notes
It's a shame to know that this can never become a game with a decent sized competitive scene thanks to Nintendo.
Incineroar had Rivals hit falling, which you missed entirely.
Nobody cares its a Pokémon 🤣
@ParaplegicKeanuReeves do you know what hitfalling is??
@@ParaplegicKeanuReevesIm gonna touch you 😂
HE WHAT !
that is funny , and potentialy game breaking
@@ParaplegicKeanuReeves
L take + its a playable character and therefore should be considered.
I don’t know if this is possible or if the HDR team will do this at all, but I really wish the hit/launch effects weren’t removed. I’m not discrediting the amount of work the HDR team has done, but the lack of hit/launch effects makes the attacks feel like there’s little power behind them.
It's a design decision, it's to clean up the image. It only looks weird because you've been playing Ultimate a lot (probably). You get used to it very fast, just like we all got used to Ultimate's effects and different knockback really fast. A lot of effects in HDR have been scaled back to make the presentation a bit more clean.
@@beardalaxy I guess it’s also cause the only 2 smash games I’ve played are Smash 3ds and Ultimate, the 2 games that increased those effects. The lack of effects look better in Melee than they do in Ultimate cause something about it in HDR just looks a little unfinished.
@elijahwilliams9723 to me it makes smash ultimate feel very smooth and clean because theres less lag. Imagine if rocket league had a similar effect as smash ultimate when the ball is hit, the game would feel more clunky
4:42
That is _not_ a Peach float. Peach can't move around in all directions. She can only hover at a static altitude. This is beyond.
Anyway I'm pretty glad Dark Samus can fly around. I remember seeing a Brawl mod that did the same thing. It was such a sick moveset.
26:12
I was half expecting the buff to be that Snake had his butt restored
I’m SO happy to see a good version of Duck Hunt in a Smash title, even if it’s just a mod.
I didn’t know to much about HDR, but I’ve always been interested in it. This video definitely is a great resource of a lot of the changes, great job!
14:37 I too would be happy if they brought back one of the best anti -air moves.
I actually really like this concept for Robin in this game. Personally, I would like to change Robin's run animation to how he/she moves across the map in Awakening and take the book and tome out of their hands.
It's so cool that robin won our last major! :)
An hour long of content is prob the most honest thing ive seen
Great video. I don't have access to HDR but I'm interested in all the changes, and I've been trying to find this exact video for a while - there's surprisingly no concise content about HDR character changes on RUclips, and this video was really well executed and edited.
Thabj you so much! I have been looking for something like this for a while.
Haven’t finished the video yet, but this is great so far! I have been trying to get people in my local Ultimate tournament scene into HDR, and I think this will be a great tool to help with that transition. I even wrote out a 40-page Google Doc that goes over all the major changes from Ult to HDR for people to read that are curious, or just for a general reference. I’ll be sharing this video for sure, since it’s more digestible. Great video!
Where is this doc I would love to read it
Pls link this document 🧐
Lot of the changes that i see im not super fond of honestly in Hdr but my mains sonic captain falcon and dk have great changes but ganondorf why would u get rid of the uptilt and warlock punch attack those are iconic. They shouod of just made ganons side special not make him go into free fall and upgrade his speed and air speed thats it.
@@elibonham4388 old uptilt and warlock punch sucked ass and were almost never used. Better to give him something more practical.
@@dalethompson6853 i used it😢
Ik nobody cares but the miis did not just get minor adjustments, moves like warrior wave and shock spell are completely new and Gunner fair, bair, and dair can all be charged for a stronger hit, bigger hitboxes, and to blast yourself in the opposite direction (and you also have a hitbox on you during this)
The sonic changes made me too happy thank you
Finally, the big kahuna the wopper, the big mac, and the other food puns, I was going to make this going to be insane. You're an insanely hard worker. zack, this content needs to blow up faster, lol.
The only adjustment Snake needs is his cake. He's 99% perfect.
hdr dev team healed my soul by removing little mac's super armor
the guy cannot tank hits in punches out
For a 5'6 109lbs 17yr old, he can definitely tank punches. Especially Considering he fought Mike Tyson and a Donkey Kong.
But I do like that they removed it regardless. Random super armor pisses me off lol
Making me want to play HDR after not wanting to play HDR? This man is crazy
Cool to see the HDR content!
i kinda dont like some of the changes. i know new moves might not have the best animations, but seeing chars like pikachu and DDD just get a standard kick back air, it looks pretty bad, especially when the ultimate animations are great. there is a balance between what to change and again i'm not expecting insanely polished animations from a fan mod
They wanted to make ultimate into melee, shitty animations and lack of hit effects included
@@rosestrohm7986 theyre adding mechanics from other smash games, not just melee. Hell even incineroar has hitfalling from rivals of aether. Marth just got smash 4 jab back
@@rosestrohm7986as long as those new ""shitty animations"" make the characters more fun to play I'm all for it screw 90% of sonics and pikachu's moves
Let’s gooo hour long honest vid!!!
Worth the wait love the video merry Christmas
HOW DO YOU KEEP MAKING SUCH GOOD VIDEOS SO FAST?!?! ITS ALMOST ASUMSAUS TIER BUT 100X MORE UPLOADS!!
I’m gonna watch this entire video, but I’m immediately going to robin to see how good my boy is
YEAH BABY, MY BOY IS FINALLY GOOD!!!!!!
Thanks for making this, really makes me want to try out HDR. Now if only it was as accessible as PM… You can take stage-builder it’s fine lmao.
You are the top of top youtubers when it comes to smash content. Like at least top 3. Thanks for an hour of HDR content, just got into the game and I think its my favorite version of smash.
Glad to see that hdr isn't totally married to the idea of making every character work like melee. Its not like melee players are even gonna switch to p+, let alone hdr, so you might as well try something new. One of my only gripes with pm/p+ is that it tries to be like melee to a fault, porting some of melee's really dumb stuff that shouldn't be there like peach dsmash or the entirety of puff
It's not that P+ devs want to cater to melee heads, it's that (at least in the early days of 2015ish) the dev team WAS the melee heads. HDR feels like an exciting middle ground of all sorts of ideas across the series. stuff like smash 4 marth jab is in and it is SICK.
As long as it opens more combo opportunities then I'm ok with melee rendition of characters semi returning I just wish meta knight had more range again
13:46 I have been waiting for so long for a Smash Bros. mod to give Bowser the wind-up punch from Mario & Luigi: Bowsers Inside Story. It's so cool!
good stuff man
Listing changes ultimate made as changes this mod made is kinda funny
It is, mendella efffect lol.
This was.a fun watch!
How does one start playing? Great video. I was falling off with Smash, but this seems very cool!
This is the Video we all needed for HDR
Great video as always! Just one question: does HDR have meteor cancelling or is it just spikes?
robin gettin close and personal with the cameraman
You could already change Peach’s
F-Smash in Ultimate
Idk why everyone anyways wants to change links moveset, links moveset like IS the reason i ever turn on smash over another platform fighter anymore. I like heavy characters, swordies, trap characters, and boomarang is my favorite move like ever. And smash is the only place i can seem to find even half of those traits on one character.
The mad man did it! I can't wait to show this off to my HDR friends!
The new megaman dash attack looks like a reference to the break dash weapon from Megaman 5 on the Gameboy.
Dark Samus’ new Side Special and Neutral Special are based off of custom moves from Smash For
I may be misremembering, but I thought definitely yoshi, and ness/lucas had double jump cancels.
you right
Sure do! so does peach, sora and uhh some other character I'm forgetting probably.
@@RiahGreenmewtwo as well
I love HDR so much. I can't play Smash any other way without feeling like something is missing now. The team has done some crazy work over the years.
I wish I could play HDR. But my switch is patched so I cant! I'm so upset!! But great video btw! HDR is so cool and I'm really glad that put the time and effort in to cover the game
the videos background content feels really random at times, or the pacing doesn’t match what you’re saying. just a small critique to an otherwise cool video!
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12:21 How is that changed exactly from Ultimate? Like how the directions needed to bring out which weapon?
nah, this is a base Ult thing. no difference in HDR, iirc
the only HDR youtuber we need
some more would be nice aswell ofc
HDR looks so sick.
Did you forget that Robin's meter is in the Base game? Or is there something I'm missing here?
Hello. I think that your video is good but the green screen format does not mesh well with showing off fighting game moves because every time you slide on screen my attention is taken away from the thing you are trying to show me.
I'll probably never play this, but this was an hour well spent
Is there anywhere you can find the character attribute/physics changes (run speed, weight, etc.)?
Mega Man's dash attack is the Break Dash from Mega Man V, awesome
I guess you could say the Duck Hunt Duo is… top DOG here!
They need to give Zelda PM Din's Fire. Without a hitbox before detonation, the HDR Din's is a huge nerf. Making detonation time-based and taking control away from a player is never an improvement. Every HDR Zelda video I've watched, the opponent is playing around the Din's because the timing is so predictable.
Also, petition to buff Snake's cake.
The king dedede back air change ain't it
I saw you did Robin's downthrow, and it seemed reminiscent of his S4 down throw. Is checkmate back? Please tell me it's back.
Nintendo: That’s cool! See you in court!
"I don't know about most of these changes."
/Steve nerfs/
"These are amazing actually."
dangit... I skipped to my main to see and P.T. has NOTHING listed except ivysaur razor leaf being different and not swapping to the next mon on death. I was curious cause y'know, if you removed bullet seed or made it actually strong, either or, i'd be happy...
Hey random question but what is the song at 39:20 ? Reminds me of a song from Diamond and pearl I used to love.
Nice christmas sweater.
Great vid, condensing info on every change in this mod for a game as big as Ultimate is quite the undertaking!
Bit of a word salad when mentioning Sephiroth's grounded up special - he could already move and change the lengths on the ground but going from the ground to the air is certainly a significant change but took a few watches on my end to understand what you meant. Would be a neat change if he could cancel the startup with shield imo
You should also upload a video showing characters with different costumes and all the stage differences
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Merry Christmas Honest!
You could always tilt the stick while charging a F-Smash with Peach to determine what kind of attack you were going to do in Ultimate. ???
I added that in the description
No love for Simon. Everyone’s always on Richters Richard.
Simons the better Belmont too lmao
The addition of PM Lucario lowkey sold me on this mod
I don't like how there's no effects when you hit your opponent, and also the way players get launched doesn't look right
I feel like this was done to feel like Melee, but I think having the way Ultimate looks with the effects and the way players get launched should be there bc there's more ways to feel like Melee if that's what they want
the knockback changes were made to make comboing more consistent, every smash game before ultimate had slower knockback.
HDR Mac sounds so boring to me… I get what they were trying to do by making a character not suck but they are also taking away what made him unique. People always go in the most basic direction of making his air game stronger like if it’s the only way to make him better where I feel like nobody has tried to make his ground game better by experimenting and figuring out what it needs.
this is such cap. if you’ve played HDR Mac, you’ll understand why the changes made to him are so sick. they gave him so much sauce
I fight the best HDR mac multiple times a week and this character does NOT suck. He is awesome. His ground game is so insanely better because of the engine allowing him to turn around during initial dash. that alone makes him excellent, but that's ignoring the plethora of other universal movement mechanics. He's even still got trample and he's got stuff like a frame 1 jab (VERY STRONG IN THIS GAME) and one of the best shield pressure games in the cast. his combos are great, his finishers kill you mega dead, and his recovery is actually about average now. If you let him get in on you, you've already fucked up.
Mac is actually really good now im sorry if this sounds rude, but some of you people need to learn that unique characters who suck is not a good way to design characters.
@@hassoncarmon5779 He's also getting an insane grab game now. Also, on the topic of his aerials. They're actually still not great on their own. They shine when you use them to get your opponent back to the ground so you're in your ideal position again.
40:00 its so baffling cause Robin literally floats in her reveal trailer. 😂
Do you have to patch the smash ult rom or is it just a direct download?
It's a patch
You have to have the game but it's not a permanent alteration of any game files
Ganon deserves his electric Tennisball
also I wish Wario could move while having grabbed someone, that way it could feel much more like WarioLand
Bro make more HDR content the new updates are sick and more people need to hop on
how did you get the alt costumes?
Did all of my mains get buffed? Let's go!
The gunner changes are insane actually. That down air is so so much better, the missile is a bit slow imo, but might work. The nade angle change is way better than most may think, that does so, sooooo much for gunner, and then they made vortex just insane, it looks fuckin absurdly busted, and it already kinda was to begin with tbh
But did hdr fix the pitboxes?
It's also worth noting that the "slow down a tilt" mechanic does exist before. In P:M you could hold Wario's ftilt and he'd wind it up for longer. It wasn't stronger, but the delayed hit was intended to fake opponents out. Wario used to have a lot of that. Remember how his dash grab would fake charge?
What to smash Modes like this Go hard
Honestly, I could definitely See myself Trying out more then my Top 8 Characters, With these Reworks, a lot of these characters feel really Unique & clean Now. That’s just me,
Aye Christmas came early
THEY PUT SKY SANCTUARY AS A NEW STAGE!!! HELL YEAH
We just got pumpkin hill for it as an alt too :)
Nintendo team planing out Smash 6: WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN!!
not even! modders do what nintendon't :)
What about Zelda's recovery length?
would've been funny if steve wasn't nerfed to oblivion; everyone else's substantial buffs seem to offer enough options to counter him anyway
So like does HDR samosa have the same charge shot game I'll main her no matter what but I loved that part of her ultimate kit.
I’m having such a hard time setting this up on my PC. Would be playing this hella if I could get it working
My normal ass thought this was going to be a video in "High Dynamic Range" ‼️ 😂
Don't tell me Pichu's discharge state is based of Super Smash Flash 2 where if it takes 50% or more in a single stock, Pichu goes into its Discharge state giving stronger special moves and Forward Smash.
Please! How do I use my final smash on ryu
48:31 uhhhhhhhh K. Rool never had a boxing glove on back air, unless that was in a previous version of hdr that I’m unfamiliar with. It’s not in vanilla altimeter either.
lol I think I had PMEX on my mind there, minor mistake.