Attila is great, but it's just not really for everyone. It's just some people prefer a more smaller campaign (Shogun and Thrones of Britannia), some prefer more role playing (Warhammer, troy, Three kingdoms), some prefer hardcore history (Shogun, Rome, Napoleon, Attila, Medieval), some prefer roman history, some loves crusade, some loves gunpowder warfare. I guess it entirely depends on the historical era you actually like tbh.
For me, Shogun II - Fall of the Samurai is by far the best tota war game I‘ve (and Japan isn‘t even my favorite setting). The fact that you rated it based on it‘s pricing (which says NOTHING about the game quality) is disappointing.
I think you were unfair on Fall of the Samurai, as I'm typing this I'm sitting here with the game's case on my lap. Total War Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai Limited Edition with in red on the back "Does not require the base game Total War Shogun 2 to play.". It was and still is a stand-alone expansion, that then got rebranded as a Saga title. It was and still is priced as a stand-alone game and shouldn't be punished on your tier list because you think it's a mere DLC being mispriced.
I have been a TW games fan since 2014, and this list resonates most with me minus the medieval 2, Rome 1, Empire and Napoleon which I have never played. I have just purchased a new rig to Play Warhammer 3 since I have been playing Warhammer 2 and never upgraded to 3. I am really Excited XD
A fellow seahawks fan? Awesome. Tbh ive been playing since shogun. While it was a different game from anything at the time i didnt feel that good about it. Medieval though is s tier for me. I still play it almost 23 years later. Its ai knocks spots off newer titles. Dont agree with some of the list but pretty decent
@@HolyRedEye Outside of the obvious ones, i.e. better camera, immersive ranged death animations, provinces panel enhanced, cataph's shield icons, etc. it really depends on what you are looking for in a TW title. If you want it slower paced and challenging, I'd go with Troy Revised. Seasonal Effects is nice as well.
I started Total War with Shogun 2 when i got it for free on steam And i got overwhelmed by the mechanic at that time. And then i tried Rome Total War on phone and i love it, and then played Shogun 2 again after finished Rome 1 and i ended up love it. From here, i play some of total war game. Here's my ranking: 1. Medieval 2 2. Shogun 2 3. Rome 1/3 Kingdoms(these both tie) 5. Rome 2 Haven't tried Fall of Samurai, but after watching this video i might try it in the future. And also i didn't play Warhammer because i didn't like the setting (but i got the first Warhammer in Epic Store so maybe this will be my first Warhammer Total War game).
How you have so much good content with low subscribers? Also I think it’s a really good tier list but I really enjoyed playing Rome 2 and Warhammer 2 and 3
Attilla is the best total war and you lost me with your discredit to what empire did for the series, but i am a hardcore total war player i started at the original shogun and medieval which you just describe as primordial ooze...which is wrong but what would you know? anyway good luck
@@matthewwebster3143 You're basically admitting you have no knowledge of why Atilla is notorious for running like shit. Don't pretend like you know the history of total war games.
@@ThrashCommand I do tho, ive been playing since the OG shotgun, if you have then YOU would understand, but i doubt it since you are debating me, i know why people say its not optimized for PC but again it works great on mine
Atilla TW, its the best historical TW, the felling in that game, that aproaching apocalypse its golden. The objective its to survive, not to win.Just like a real war, a real battlefield. It;s great. Never traied the Warhhamer triology, maybe i will. With what game of the 3 should i begin ?
Three kingdoms did so many things right, but the battles did become kinda meh because everybodies armies were the same and was pretty much have your shieldwall hold the enemy and then let your cav destroy them. Specially coming from tw 2 battles
Great mod but desyncs a lot on co-op there are some nations my friends can’t get past turn 3 without desync and then some nations where we’ve played the entire campaign and never desynced
@@Tiamaru0o Yes, I’d think so! It has good factions included and the best QOL. However, some of the best factions are in other games or dlc. If you can, get Warhammer 2 as well. In my opinion those have some of the best races/factions. They frequently go on sale, so keep an eye out!
Empire could have been good, but i think they missed the mark by not including a historical story behind the game. It was more of a chess board of set pieces and surface level factions. The tech tree makes the pacing of the game, rather than following historical relevant triggers like in medivel 2. That would have added to the gameplay of which faction you pick, becuase they get a bonus for having a researcher or engineer or business tycoon. The lack of depth in the family tree system when royal families were the pinnacle of society. The game lacked grace, emotion, immersion, information, educative motives, depth and percision. It felt rushed and incomplete. Units were muddy, and sluggish, poorly animated. They invested little in simulating large scale battles, the physics, the sounds, the impact of concussion. Imagine peter jackson using green screen instead of natural geography. Thats what empire is. A green screen of histroy.
I have never played any total war... Idk how is that possible. Because of your video I have purchased now total war medieval 2 and Warhammer 3. they all on discount now. 29 pound for two games. good deal. I think I am gonna have an amazing time. Please let me know which game of total war I should buy/play as a beginner ? I was mostly sitting on age of empires, stronghold, cossack, red alert, coh 2.
@@TheMateuszek19 That’s awesome! Total War is a great series. Medieval 2 is a great classic to start with and is relatively simple. Warhammer 3 is much more complex but also more varied and epic. Definitely a great one if Fantasy or Warhammer is your thing, but I’d also very much recommend Warhammer 2 as I believe it has the best factions and that you can then play in Warhammer 3. Essentially it’s one big game. Also I’d really recommend Shogun 2! My personal favorite historical TW.
Maybe they needed to merge troy and pharao bronze age and make it even bigger with civs from india , and or other areas like china or north europe….any bronze civ can be in the game . And even add like rome 2 periods like expansions…..
It was the lack of battle improvements that makes it lack luster for me. They should have incorporated a deeper take on military tactics impacting army organization. It was their chance to highlight the foundation of military tactics employed in ancient battles. Over time improving your armies from bands of roaming warriors, to ancient line battles. They didn't focus in the beginning of industry. And global commerce. It exists in the game sure, but to me poorly implemented as it doesn't reflect any total war model to engage the player in game player, rather than screens and screens and more screens of information.
War hammer series is the best of all times total war, no questions asked. Now I just don't understand how meadevil is in the highest rank here, camera controls are horrible and graphics look to old for this period to have fun playing this game. I have try to get into this game many times because people rate this game as one of the best but, this one just doesn't work for me. I think it deserves B or C.
Thrones of britannia has the best battles in the total war series but many of the big total war streamer hatedet on it thats why nobody is playin gthis hidden gem Total war warhammer i can't get into it i have spend 55 hours in it its not for me but I must say it runs well but Warhammer have destroyed total war games Finally 3K get some love its so good i enjoy that game Realistic and both positive and negative view of the games
Pharaoh is for me one of the better Total War games. Especially with the huge free expansion coming next August. It's really the bitterness of the Total War community that makes the game look bad.
You lost me at attila at C- tier. Great game that historical TW fans love S/A tier. Probably the best battles in the series. Campaign has great mechanics and has real challenge.
Yup, knew that one would get me in some hot water lol. Not my cup of tea, but I know a lot of the more grounded historical fans love it. Y'all keep enjoying!
Rome the classic should be S and Warhammer 2&3 should be A. Warhammer is just awesome cause its Warhammer,not cause its a good total war game.. i find the battles rather bland.....like I'm missing unit formations. rock paper scissors is not strategy....i just end up with a mass of soldiers...fighting a mass of soldiers. all the time.
God damn this is the worst tier list lmao. "Um uh yeah didn't play it much. C tier. Uh I was so busy uh B tier." I get we all have lives, but Bro if you are gonna make a tier list you gotta play them more and experience a full campaign at least lol.
@@electricfusion1317 I disagree with 90% of what is said in this video, we have differing opinions and yes hearing a different perspective is nice but their is some content i like to enjoy because it does agree with me, if i want controversial i will stick to politics.
Totally fine opinion and fine to disagree. These are just video games after all they are for fun. I'm more of a casual player myself. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@TroySturdy I'll be honest I'm not sure why I got so up in arms about it, it's not like you said anything rude or disrespectful you were just sharing your own opinion
Troy>Three Kingdoms for me. Which sucks because I love 3K's setting and art style a lot, it just wasn't all that fun to me. I liked the light-medium-heavy armor system in Troy, as well as the new resource system was a huge upgrade instead of just using gold, felt a bit more like CIV in that aspect. Bronze armor looked great as well, it was a downgrade to not have any cavalry though (i know, i know, time period blabla) Still almost exclusively play Rome 1 and Shogun 2 though, simply the best ones.
Nice video. Three Kingdoms is my favorite. I'm sad they ended support for it.
YES AGREED😊
Pharaoh is nice
@@RealHistoricalAlternativeHubno it is shit
Nice vid brother. I agree with most points. However, as a biased gunpowder-era fanboy, the Napoleon placement hurt my soul lol.
Thank you kindly! Hey, Napoleon is good. Just gunpowder ain't exactly MY thing.
I tought u had 286k instead of 286 subscribers how? U really deserve much more, thank you for the awesome tier list.
he just doesnt though does he stop glazing
I don't understand how you don't have hundreds of thousands of subscribers.. really high quality videos mate, keep it up
Awesome comment right here. Thank you!
Attila is the best for me personally. Mechanics and difficulty is top tier. The mods make Attila awesome as well.
What mods would you recommend?
Attila is great, but it's just not really for everyone. It's just some people prefer a more smaller campaign (Shogun and Thrones of Britannia), some prefer more role playing (Warhammer, troy, Three kingdoms), some prefer hardcore history (Shogun, Rome, Napoleon, Attila, Medieval), some prefer roman history, some loves crusade, some loves gunpowder warfare. I guess it entirely depends on the historical era you actually like tbh.
For me, Shogun II - Fall of the Samurai is by far the best tota war game I‘ve (and Japan isn‘t even my favorite setting). The fact that you rated it based on it‘s pricing (which says NOTHING about the game quality) is disappointing.
I think you were unfair on Fall of the Samurai, as I'm typing this I'm sitting here with the game's case on my lap. Total War Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai Limited Edition with in red on the back "Does not require the base game Total War Shogun 2 to play.". It was and still is a stand-alone expansion, that then got rebranded as a Saga title. It was and still is priced as a stand-alone game and shouldn't be punished on your tier list because you think it's a mere DLC being mispriced.
For quality, balance of game and maximum replayability nothing has come close to Shogun 2. I would say its the most enjoyable TW game even in 2024
Medieval 1 was amazing. My personal favorite.
Attila in C tier? I was dying...
The game emulates the antiquity
Troy: It looks bland
Like mf did you expect roses and shiny pavements
Because you put S2 up with Med 2, I’ll actually try Med 2 since S2 is by far my fave game
I have been a TW games fan since 2014, and this list resonates most with me minus the medieval 2, Rome 1, Empire and Napoleon which I have never played. I have just purchased a new rig to Play Warhammer 3 since I have been playing Warhammer 2 and never upgraded to 3. I am really Excited XD
Attila anything less than A tier is criminal 😂 and you should seriously play Britannia is a High A Tier IMO. But great video bro
A fellow seahawks fan? Awesome. Tbh ive been playing since shogun. While it was a different game from anything at the time i didnt feel that good about it. Medieval though is s tier for me. I still play it almost 23 years later. Its ai knocks spots off newer titles. Dont agree with some of the list but pretty decent
Also I play the warhammer titles but I wouldn't put them s tier. They gutted sieges and battles tbh. Combat is shit but oooo look magic etc
Etc.
Troy (the game) is S tier. Not sarcasm.
agreed
Mods you recommend? Finally tried playing It after a buying it last year lol
@@HolyRedEye Outside of the obvious ones, i.e. better camera, immersive ranged death animations, provinces panel enhanced, cataph's shield icons, etc. it really depends on what you are looking for in a TW title. If you want it slower paced and challenging, I'd go with Troy Revised. Seasonal Effects is nice as well.
I started Total War with Shogun 2 when i got it for free on steam And i got overwhelmed by the mechanic at that time. And then i tried Rome Total War on phone and i love it, and then played Shogun 2 again after finished Rome 1 and i ended up love it. From here, i play some of total war game.
Here's my ranking:
1. Medieval 2
2. Shogun 2
3. Rome 1/3 Kingdoms(these both tie)
5. Rome 2
Haven't tried Fall of Samurai, but after watching this video i might try it in the future. And also i didn't play Warhammer because i didn't like the setting (but i got the first Warhammer in Epic Store so maybe this will be my first Warhammer Total War game).
u can play TW on phone?? doesnt make any sense.
I have a macbook and im really confused what total war game to play as first game of the franchise.
Putting Three Kingdoms only in A tier is a crime 😭😭😭😭
DESERVES S+
Lo key so hard to complete
Love it tho
How you have so much good content with low subscribers? Also I think it’s a really good tier list but I really enjoyed playing Rome 2 and Warhammer 2 and 3
Thank you, I’m working on it! Yes, Warhammer is probably my favorite overall series I just love the fantasy setting. Rome 2 is great too.
Yes . I subbed . Hope from more content about total war .
@@OdysseyAviation Thank you! Stay tuned, I’ll be revisiting total war after recent announcements by CA…
Attilla is the best total war and you lost me with your discredit to what empire did for the series, but i am a hardcore total war player i started at the original shogun and medieval which you just describe as primordial ooze...which is wrong but what would you know? anyway good luck
Atilla runs like absolute ASS and the campaign sucks. shogun 1 and medieval 1 ARE ass too.
@@ThrashCommand so you got a shitty PC got it, attilla runs great on my PC just sayin, sounds like a personal problem haha
@@matthewwebster3143 You're basically admitting you have no knowledge of why Atilla is notorious for running like shit. Don't pretend like you know the history of total war games.
@@ThrashCommand I do tho, ive been playing since the OG shotgun, if you have then YOU would understand, but i doubt it since you are debating me, i know why people say its not optimized for PC but again it works great on mine
@@matthewwebster3143 HA! If that were true you wouldn't have been smug about it. Not a personal issue, just a fact that's well known by the community.
Where was Rome barbarian invasion and Medieval 2 kingdoms?
what bout the new total war pharaoh dynasties?
Dynasties is great! I'd bump that up to at least B tier.
@@TroySturdyyou rating it lower then 3kindoms is wild
@@Mysteryboy0007 Personally, the time period of Dynasties isn’t interesting enough for me to rate it anything higher than B
Atilla TW, its the best historical TW, the felling in that game, that aproaching apocalypse its golden. The objective its to survive, not to win.Just like a real war, a real battlefield. It;s great. Never traied the Warhhamer triology, maybe i will. With what game of the 3 should i begin ?
Three kingdoms did so many things right, but the battles did become kinda meh because everybodies armies were the same and was pretty much have your shieldwall hold the enemy and then let your cav destroy them. Specially coming from tw 2 battles
Beautiful tier list. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you!
We need a game for sultan Suleiman the magnificent
If you like medieval total war, I would recommend giving atilla another go and trying 1212ad mod
Great mod but desyncs a lot on co-op there are some nations my friends can’t get past turn 3 without desync and then some nations where we’ve played the entire campaign and never desynced
Troy and 3 Kìngdoms are awesome. But 3 kingdoms kinda just got forgotten about. I guess Cathay was enough China for them lol
good tier list but saying that game really started with Rome is bs. Shōgun started it all, there was nothing like it before
He means that Rome made the series popular - which is true.
is it worth it buying warhammer 3 without dlc
@@Tiamaru0o Yes, I’d think so! It has good factions included and the best QOL. However, some of the best factions are in other games or dlc. If you can, get Warhammer 2 as well. In my opinion those have some of the best races/factions.
They frequently go on sale, so keep an eye out!
I personally would put ETW higher. I really enjoyed the time period and the world was beautiful to look at and conquer.
hell ya dude, full youtuber mode lol great format!
Thanks man!
Was the best ranked total war games ❤😊
Empire could have been good, but i think they missed the mark by not including a historical story behind the game. It was more of a chess board of set pieces and surface level factions. The tech tree makes the pacing of the game, rather than following historical relevant triggers like in medivel 2. That would have added to the gameplay of which faction you pick, becuase they get a bonus for having a researcher or engineer or business tycoon. The lack of depth in the family tree system when royal families were the pinnacle of society. The game lacked grace, emotion, immersion, information, educative motives, depth and percision. It felt rushed and incomplete. Units were muddy, and sluggish, poorly animated. They invested little in simulating large scale battles, the physics, the sounds, the impact of concussion. Imagine peter jackson using green screen instead of natural geography. Thats what empire is. A green screen of histroy.
Solid ratings, pretty fair assessment.
Not putting Napoleon higher is criminal.
Great content like the format😃
I have never played any total war... Idk how is that possible. Because of your video I have purchased now total war medieval 2 and Warhammer 3. they all on discount now. 29 pound for two games. good deal. I think I am gonna have an amazing time. Please let me know which game of total war I should buy/play as a beginner ? I was mostly sitting on age of empires, stronghold, cossack, red alert, coh 2.
@@TheMateuszek19 That’s awesome! Total War is a great series. Medieval 2 is a great classic to start with and is relatively simple. Warhammer 3 is much more complex but also more varied and epic. Definitely a great one if Fantasy or Warhammer is your thing, but I’d also very much recommend Warhammer 2 as I believe it has the best factions and that you can then play in Warhammer 3. Essentially it’s one big game. Also I’d really recommend Shogun 2! My personal favorite historical TW.
Cream api saves the day
Great video keep it up!!
Watching this while playing warhammer 3 lets goooo
Maybe they needed to merge troy and pharao bronze age and make it even bigger with civs from india , and or other areas like china or north europe….any bronze civ can be in the game . And even add like rome 2 periods like expansions…..
It was the lack of battle improvements that makes it lack luster for me. They should have incorporated a deeper take on military tactics impacting army organization. It was their chance to highlight the foundation of military tactics employed in ancient battles. Over time improving your armies from bands of roaming warriors, to ancient line battles. They didn't focus in the beginning of industry. And global commerce. It exists in the game sure, but to me poorly implemented as it doesn't reflect any total war model to engage the player in game player, rather than screens and screens and more screens of information.
WH3 is goat and peak total war, i hope the star wars one coming is on par
attila C ?? omg very very bad rank
I really enjoy Thrones of Britannia. Definitely high tier for me.
Rome Remastered?
War hammer series is the best of all times total war, no questions asked. Now I just don't understand how meadevil is in the highest rank here, camera controls are horrible and graphics look to old for this period to have fun playing this game. I have try to get into this game many times because people rate this game as one of the best but, this one just doesn't work for me. I think it deserves B or C.
I really liked Thrones opf Brittania. Its very well rooted in the franchise. I have most of TW titles.
See I only have Warhammer 1 and 2, and I’m sitting head watching this to see if Napoleon is worth it
I've had Napoleon for over ten years in my steam library but not touched it once. I need a good reason to start 😅
Napoleon is a lot of fun! It offers unique battles compared to other titles. Definitely worth it if the time period interests you.
havent played any warhammer and probly wont ever. hopefully we can see more real totalwar games in the future.
Attila in C Tier seems gravely wrong.
Try to play as Empire in WH3, and think about placing it at S tier again. Without mods balance is in shambles.
I don't play WH3 for a balanced experience. I have hundreds on hundreds of hours because of faction diversity and just the pure spectacle.
They just buffed the empire 🙏
Thrones of britannia has the best battles in the total war series but many of the big total war streamer hatedet on it thats why nobody is playin gthis hidden gem
Total war warhammer i can't get into it i have spend 55 hours in it its not for me
but I must say it runs well but Warhammer have destroyed total war games
Finally 3K get some love its so good i enjoy that game
Realistic and both positive and negative view of the games
Found the Reddit hivemind 'fan'. Destroyed TW games... ridiculous.
I agree 3K is so good crazy they abandoned it
ToB belongs way higher and Kung-Fu Total War way lower.
Pharaoh is for me one of the better Total War games. Especially with the huge free expansion coming next August. It's really the bitterness of the Total War community that makes the game look bad.
CULL-MIN-ATION
Damn hella underrated channel
You looked over empire your opinion is null and void
You lost me at attila at C- tier. Great game that historical TW fans love S/A tier. Probably the best battles in the series. Campaign has great mechanics and has real challenge.
Yup, knew that one would get me in some hot water lol. Not my cup of tea, but I know a lot of the more grounded historical fans love it. Y'all keep enjoying!
I haven't played most Total Wars, but for me Troy is better than any of the warhammers
Still waiting for medieval total war 2
Assuming you meant 3? Because yeah...that is definitely my most anticipated Total War title. I can't wait!
@@TroySturdy oh sorry yes 3 😅
Warhammer 3 is goated for sure
Rome the classic should be S and Warhammer 2&3 should be A.
Warhammer is just awesome cause its Warhammer,not cause its a good total war game..
i find the battles rather bland.....like I'm missing unit formations.
rock paper scissors is not strategy....i just end up with a mass of soldiers...fighting a mass of soldiers. all the time.
Shogun 2 is better than Medieval 2 imo
MAKE IT S+ THREE KINGDOMS SLAPS
Good video
I have to disagree on Rome 2
Ive sunk an insane amount of hours into it and the campaign mechanics are what keep the actual campaign map interesting
warhammer is one of the best tw ever
😢 ntw is my heart 😭
Empire - S
Attila C wtf dude
My list:
S- Shogun 2, FotS Rome, Medieval 1, Medieval 2
A- Shogun 1
B-Napoleon Empire
C- Attila
D-
E- Thrones, Pharaoh
F- Warhammer (all 3), Three kingdoms, Troy, Rome 2,
Thanks for sharing! I hope you gave Warhammer a chance though ;)
bro went the opposite.
Attila the best
Full send tier list 😂
Jesus loves u and he died for u. He is the only way
ok.....
God damn this is the worst tier list lmao. "Um uh yeah didn't play it much. C tier. Uh I was so busy uh B tier." I get we all have lives, but Bro if you are gonna make a tier list you gotta play them more and experience a full campaign at least lol.
you lost me bye bye
What
@@electricfusion1317 I disagree with 90% of what is said in this video, we have differing opinions and yes hearing a different perspective is nice but their is some content i like to enjoy because it does agree with me, if i want controversial i will stick to politics.
Totally fine opinion and fine to disagree. These are just video games after all they are for fun. I'm more of a casual player myself. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@TroySturdy I'll be honest I'm not sure why I got so up in arms about it, it's not like you said anything rude or disrespectful you were just sharing your own opinion
@@matthewwebster3143 thanks for clarifying
Troy>Three Kingdoms for me. Which sucks because I love 3K's setting and art style a lot, it just wasn't all that fun to me.
I liked the light-medium-heavy armor system in Troy, as well as the new resource system was a huge upgrade instead of just using gold, felt a bit more like CIV in that aspect.
Bronze armor looked great as well, it was a downgrade to not have any cavalry though (i know, i know, time period blabla)
Still almost exclusively play Rome 1 and Shogun 2 though, simply the best ones.