The Top 5 Total War Games in 2024

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @LegendofTotalWar
    @LegendofTotalWar  Месяц назад +97

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    • @ZenobiaofPalmyra
      @ZenobiaofPalmyra Месяц назад +1

      Not going to lie, the way in which you did this sponsor segment was.... utterly bewildering. I honestly thought you were satirizing the shilling for this kind of thing for a hard moment. 😅
      Like not even accusing you of anything! It just seems like your hype for it was very superficial, compared to say your.... manscaping ads. I doubt you will let this comment show on your sponsor reference post. Just want you to see this to let you know it could do with a bit of work.

    • @anonymouseovermouse1960
      @anonymouseovermouse1960 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@ZenobiaofPalmyra I mean, imo raytracing sucks and DLSS is a crutch, so i don't blame Legend for lacking enthusiasm lol

    • @yuzumeow
      @yuzumeow Месяц назад

      @@ZenobiaofPalmyra😅stop typing imo. its his livelihood lol 😅 hes not you earning $25 per hour poverty worker

    • @justbehappytoday5892
      @justbehappytoday5892 Месяц назад

      @@LegendofTotalWar dude you need to do more fall of the samurai content. I'm just saying. Love you, man

    • @adriankoch964
      @adriankoch964 Месяц назад +1

      I honestly loved the sting at TW Atilla being designed for future hardware and that being the reason why it runs like crap.

  • @nocary3
    @nocary3 Месяц назад +1220

    This sounds like a top tier AI legendofTotalWar

  • @TheGreatBookofGrudges
    @TheGreatBookofGrudges Месяц назад +1251

    His top Total War games until the ULTIMATE Total War game releases.... TW Hyenas!! He'll never play anything else!

    • @shogunarki1139
      @shogunarki1139 Месяц назад +20

      Oh gosh that is a good joke

    • @DaBadMoonIsRisin
      @DaBadMoonIsRisin Месяц назад +6

      Oh hello gbog, you have a banger channel.

    • @bluemilkalienmonster522
      @bluemilkalienmonster522 Месяц назад +19

      Nah man, it’s Total War: My Little Pony or bust!

    • @fazalamin6379
      @fazalamin6379 Месяц назад +1

      😂🥲😂

    • @marfin4325
      @marfin4325 Месяц назад +11

      @@bluemilkalienmonster522 Unironically, I would play Total War: MLP

  • @Qualityrubbish
    @Qualityrubbish Месяц назад +621

    A little bit of advice for more planned videos, I’d recommend you try just using cliff notes of what you want to talk about for each section.
    This one being fully scripted left it feeling quite wooden and we lost a lot of your natural charm that normally comes through.
    Congrats on getting a sponsor tho, and it was a great video with some nice editing that we don’t normally see!

    • @SereglothIV
      @SereglothIV Месяц назад +23

      This is some good constructive critisism! I get that he wanted to plan what to say and it probably also had something to do with the sponsor, but he sounded really weird an unnatural. Having cliff notes instead of the full script could work so much better.

    • @MedjayofFaiyum
      @MedjayofFaiyum Месяц назад

      Great to see Legend doing the scripted stuff, but to be honest if he started with:! Legend here and I’m about to tell you what the best five top total war games are! Now fack off 😅 (I can totally imagine him saying this)

    • @MedjayofFaiyum
      @MedjayofFaiyum Месяц назад +6

      @@SereglothIValso doing scripted videos are harder to do if you don’t do them regularly, speaking as a small RUclipsr I prefer to go off topic more than scripted. Scripted requires an insane amount of dedication (this is my experience and I don’t claim to speak for others) if you do something consistently it becomes second nature

    • @MrBlueSleeves
      @MrBlueSleeves Месяц назад +6

      "Siege rework. Rework. When."

    • @ABCDEFGEERT1986
      @ABCDEFGEERT1986 21 день назад +1

      Hard disagree. He sounds just different, but for a cohorent long-form story you need to adjust your speech pattern anyway. He did fine

  • @xNoelxLeonx
    @xNoelxLeonx Месяц назад +248

    In contrary to a lot of the comments, I like that you tried something different by writing a script. It did feel a bit unnatural but I feel that's expected with you trying something new and I could hear you feeling more comfortable with it in moments throughout the video. I'm sure it would feel more comfortable after a couple more like this and I wouldn't expect a script for videos such as Disaster Battle videos anyway
    Congrats on the sponsor and much respect for trying out some new things for yourself and the channel!!

  • @khankhomrad8855
    @khankhomrad8855 Месяц назад +1604

    Legend reading a script doesn't sound natural at all.

    • @Mars_junior
      @Mars_junior Месяц назад +121

      It sounds fine, you're just not used to it.

    • @gelwane
      @gelwane Месяц назад +66

      Honestly it's how he used to sound unscripted as well, before he got speaking experience through streaming

    • @bjorn-falkoandreas9472
      @bjorn-falkoandreas9472 Месяц назад +59

      Yeah, it's weird. What's next? Multiple takes and editing? It's as if somebody is holding a gun to his head and now I am seriously worried.

    • @f3wbs
      @f3wbs Месяц назад +5

      Idk if you watched his super old Medieval 2 videos some of them sound scripted. This sound exactly like that.

    • @simondiebolt5354
      @simondiebolt5354 Месяц назад +4

      Nothing sounds natural when you listen in 1.5 or more :)

  • @Resurrescion
    @Resurrescion Месяц назад +444

    Legend sounds so different when reading off a script

    • @gekko434
      @gekko434 Месяц назад +7

      I liked it. Dunno why everyone is being so harsh

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 29 дней назад +2

      He sounds the exact same he just knows what he's saying.

  • @holdinmcgroin8639
    @holdinmcgroin8639 Месяц назад +396

    Troy number 1? Never thought i'd see the day!

    • @Ahmadabdal_
      @Ahmadabdal_ Месяц назад +37

      TROY SWEEP

    • @Garret007
      @Garret007 Месяц назад +39

      love the bait

    • @MrBlueSleeves
      @MrBlueSleeves Месяц назад +20

      It makes sense really, Troy just got it all tbh and you even have trojan horses

    • @gonkdroid6301
      @gonkdroid6301 Месяц назад +3

      why would you lie to me? im really not cool with this. say hi to your general doctor for me

    • @kreuzrittergottes9336
      @kreuzrittergottes9336 Месяц назад +3

      Wait, i thought it was Pharoah

  • @hjluke4807
    @hjluke4807 Месяц назад +226

    I’m so happy in spite of all its fatal flaws, three kingdoms made this list. It’s a beautifully ambitious game- and was killed off too early.

    • @afau1non
      @afau1non Месяц назад +24

      it's basicaly the best modern historical title

    • @wilsun3638
      @wilsun3638 Месяц назад +8

      It's sooo damn good, not my most played or my fave but I think it had insane potential that was wasted by a dev team who seemed to have no idea what to do with it. I would love a fully developed max potential 3k2.

    • @reivelt3715
      @reivelt3715 Месяц назад

      Yes. It has the most potential.
      I love playing it back then

    • @ivanlagrossemoule
      @ivanlagrossemoule Месяц назад +8

      Funnily enough everything listed by Legend is some of the stuff I hate the most about it. Sure, figuring out generals that work together is fine when you have 2 armies. When you have 9 all over the place it's just a pain in the ass. But it did have a lot of potential that was never realized.
      Ironically potential that was never realized will always be my biggest issue with Total War games.

    • @cornuthaum
      @cornuthaum Месяц назад +8

      the diplomacy in 3k was genuinely revolutionary and I dearly wish they could have merged the forks between 3k and TWW3 to get that diplomacy system backported

  • @WeAreLegion1
    @WeAreLegion1 Месяц назад +260

    Your personal taste in video games are completely wrong. I can’t believe you could be so wrong. My personal taste in games is right. You should educate yourself and take notes.

    • @donkey9113
      @donkey9113 Месяц назад +8

      You tried so hard to be funny, that’s what makes this post actually funny

    • @WeAreLegion1
      @WeAreLegion1 Месяц назад +37

      @@donkey9113 wow. You must be a scholar. A member of Mensa. A titan of intellectualism. You figured this out on your own? I am in awweee of your ability to see the core of human social behavior. It is an honor to have someone of your pedigree to comment on one of my obvious goofball comments. Thank you sir.

    • @donkey9113
      @donkey9113 Месяц назад +3

      @@WeAreLegion1you're welcome

    • @Hollow_Theorist
      @Hollow_Theorist Месяц назад

      @@WeAreLegion1 Are you mentally challenged?

    • @Drizzzler
      @Drizzzler 29 дней назад

      @@WeAreLegion1 soooo... what's your favorite total war game?

  • @YvanWeiersmuller
    @YvanWeiersmuller Месяц назад +38

    Just dropping a comment for the algorithm and to say I thoroughly enjoyed this (perhaps one-off) format !
    Disregarding the reading part lacking a bit of emotion (only needs practice and thus is of no importance really), I cannot state how GREATLY I appreciate the effort that went into the text itself. It is complete, well structured and filled with all the comprehensive details to both fully explain your reasonings and present the games in the most complete manner.
    I always learn knew things about Total War when watching your videos but this format is, I find, both the richest in information and the most structured , which, in my opinion, makes it very, very pleasing and interesting to watch.
    The visual editing is a plus as well : these nice, cinematic shots are not only pleasing to the eyes but add content to the speech, with a (nice) touch of humour and/or by illustrating what is being said.
    Not sure if we'll see another production-heavy vid like that any time soon, but I do applaud the effort that when into this one, cheers !

    • @imadork123
      @imadork123 Месяц назад +6

      I agree, not enough love for the actual words. Too much focus on the delivery. But hey, he's an entertainer, so it's part of the job too.

  • @smellchamber
    @smellchamber Месяц назад +141

    Empire at number 1 is crazy

    • @unmeclambda5837
      @unmeclambda5837 Месяц назад +32

      Not as crazy as Thrones of Britannia as number 2

    • @michaelmoran2125
      @michaelmoran2125 Месяц назад +4

      The Empire Endures!!!

    • @321Crispo
      @321Crispo 29 дней назад +10

      I'm so sad that so many people hate on Empire, I thought it was amazing with the tech tree, agents/gentlemen, line infantry and naval battles. Would really love to see Empire 2

    • @jacobscott2473
      @jacobscott2473 29 дней назад +3

      @@unmeclambda5837 Thrones of Britannia was a fun playthrough for me, but I 100% used a mod that added stuff like population to towns among many other things.

    • @IndianArma
      @IndianArma 27 дней назад +1

      Empire is perfect

  • @Johannes_Piotr
    @Johannes_Piotr Месяц назад +43

    Justice for Attila! If only it got similar subsequent attention than Rome 2... 😢

    • @alextony4111
      @alextony4111 Месяц назад +7

      Modding community goes crazy tho

    • @GradyGame
      @GradyGame 24 дня назад +2

      Attila is truly best

  • @addochandra4745
    @addochandra4745 Месяц назад +78

    All I want in a Total War games are :
    - Population mechanic from RTW1 and 2-3 slot recruitment from Med2 (The challenge for dev is to make the AI play competently and not exhaust its population)
    - Chivalry-Dreadful mechanic with battle system from Med2
    - Procedural generated battle map
    Other than those, I don't care whether it's a historical or fantasy setting.

    • @termitreter6545
      @termitreter6545 Месяц назад +18

      Personally Id also like the unit management of Med2 in general. Trying to upgrade/modify armies in Total Warhammer is an utterly byzantine and tedious process. In M2 I was just phasing in and out units from armies, modifying for purpose, trying new things and accounting for losses/limited unit replacement.

    • @chainz983
      @chainz983 Месяц назад +2

      i kinda like the General upgrading from Shogun 2, instead of hoping for a specific trait like Infantry master or whatever from M2

    • @Mauadib
      @Mauadib Месяц назад

      @@termitreter6545 There is a mod by BAGHolder for TWWH 3 called "Warband Upgrade Ultimate" you may want to check out. Pretty much gives every faction the warband upgrade system from Chaos so you can some what modify and upgrade your armies as you go.

    • @marclohnhardt6420
      @marclohnhardt6420 29 дней назад +1

      @@chainz983 never rly cared much about specific traits in M2 :D Works without caring to much

    • @addochandra4745
      @addochandra4745 27 дней назад +2

      @@termitreter6545 Yeah me too. Also, I like the way how city garrison system implemented. Basically you can decide what militia unit you want within its free upkeep garrison. Unlike the system, for example in TW Warhammer...

  • @processing4426
    @processing4426 Месяц назад +40

    Some people dont like it, but honestly, I really like that Legend took his time to think about what he wanted to say. It feels more professional from channel of over half a milion subs.
    Are you planning on doing these top 5 videos again? You have made plenty of those years ago and new games were released in that time and opinions may have shifted.
    I would love you to redo your top 5 series in 2024/2025 in this scripted less-yapping format.

  • @grechdania
    @grechdania Месяц назад +36

    That's the single most well-edited legend's video, lol. Very nice work, man!

  • @justbehappytoday5892
    @justbehappytoday5892 Месяц назад +77

    "my personal taste in videogames is incorrect" 😂😂😂

    • @toddblankenship7164
      @toddblankenship7164 Месяц назад +3

      he just wants interaction on the channel for the $'s

    • @justbehappytoday5892
      @justbehappytoday5892 Месяц назад

      @@toddblankenship7164 "to be HONEST I appreciate the boy for his HONESTY..." WTF did I write there 🥴
      Hope you still get my drift, have a nice day, dear internet user 🙂

    • @MrKylljoy
      @MrKylljoy 21 день назад

      @@toddblankenship7164 y'all take all jokes and sarcasm as engagement bait

  • @ROZENHART
    @ROZENHART Месяц назад +41

    LMAO OFF on the Attila reference “was designed for equipment that has been invented yet”! So true. I can run it on ULTRA but my laptop is literally hot enough to cook food on

    • @Sturm_VII
      @Sturm_VII 29 дней назад

      We might just get lucky and the hardware it was designed for will release in the next decade 😁

    • @vorynrosethorn903
      @vorynrosethorn903 29 дней назад

      Works fine of my computer on max settings, and my computer is cheap and five years old. Rome 2 on the other hand does not work great, and I've had continual problems with Napoleon.

    • @ROZENHART
      @ROZENHART 29 дней назад

      @@vorynrosethorn903 Attila runs fine its just my laptop get crazy hot 🔥

  • @fadecrowley6127
    @fadecrowley6127 Месяц назад +36

    Fall of the Samurai, always the classic.

    • @pnutz_2
      @pnutz_2 29 дней назад +1

      the soul of a warrior is forged in his blade
      the iron must be smelted for 3 days
      it must be folded to remove the impurities
      too hard and it will shatter, too soft and it will bend
      but forged correctly, it can cut through the clouds in flight-
      gentlemen, manned by a crew of 4 and capable of firing at over 200 rounds a minute, this is the gatling machine gun!

  • @erensametkaratas6593
    @erensametkaratas6593 Месяц назад +71

    I bet this new sponsor is much more profitable than most of his other sponsors. Great to see!

  • @farhadnikzad1514
    @farhadnikzad1514 29 дней назад +3

    IMO, the things that I like to see in future TWs:
    - Settlements' unlimited construction slots (as in TW Rome or Medieval 2)
    - Every settlement acting as an independent province with having a few minor towns (as in TW Empire or Shogun 2)
    - Improving garrison units by constructing every building
    - Implementing naval battles
    - Having food mechanics
    - Battle-map visible armour and weapon upgrade
    - Removing any AI cheats

  • @pyrhusofeprius
    @pyrhusofeprius 22 дня назад +2

    I never got into Warhammer until recently. I always felt overwhelmed jumping from historical tw to Warhammer. In July 2024 I made the jump and bought warhammer 3. I ended up buying all the games and DLC. I have all the achievements for it now. I LOVE it.

  • @TehFishey
    @TehFishey Месяц назад +12

    I get why he maybe wouldn't want to go into it, but not mentioning TATW when talking about Medieval II seems like a real oversight. Like, "mod support" in general as a perk is one thing, but I'd bet that a significant portion of the game's current playerbase (by Steam numbers, at least) are people running that conversion specifically.

    • @Hrolfgord
      @Hrolfgord Месяц назад +3

      Legend rarely plays any modded total war games so he can’t honestly give a good review of something he doesn’t play or use

  • @vorynrosethorn903
    @vorynrosethorn903 Месяц назад +8

    Honestly I like the BOTET mod for Medieval Two a lot more than Total war Warhammer, the only thing I really like about Total War Warhammer is the design of the ui, everything else, the mechanics, the battles, they way all the units seem to float and have the weight of clouds, I just really regret spending the money honestly, BOTET is a great mod and perfectly represents the lore and vibe of the setting, on top of this medieval two remains a better game at its core than the newer titles, the mechanics and engine it brings still offer a great deal more potential than anything modern CA is able to deliver on.

  • @Rafalskimi
    @Rafalskimi Месяц назад +24

    Hm, my list would be
    1. Warhammer 3
    2. Medieval 2 (especially the DAC mod)
    3. Shogun 2
    4. Fall of the Samurai
    5. Empire/Napoleon (I have a soft spot for naval battles and musket warfare)

    • @FREECIVVIE
      @FREECIVVIE Месяц назад +3

      I would kill for empire with napoleon ai and stability

    • @MajorDryhole
      @MajorDryhole Месяц назад +3

      I'm still waiting for a day they will finally do Empire 2

    • @BalthasarGelt-x2d
      @BalthasarGelt-x2d 25 дней назад

      Shogun 2 and Fall of the Samurai are the same game.

    • @davidshaw123451001
      @davidshaw123451001 18 дней назад

      @@BalthasarGelt-x2d They're not, especially for those of us who bought them separately

  • @russ2120
    @russ2120 Месяц назад +19

    I will say for Three Kingdoms, the fact that they don't cover the actual time of the Three Kingdoms period makes perfect sense. The Three Kingdoms period refers to the time between 220 and 263 when the Three Kingdoms of Cao Wei, Shu Han and Wu were actually relatively stable. There was tension but no major political change; borders mostly maintained their shape. I never understood this argument. 190 and 194 are the best start dates and match up with the bulk of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

  • @darthioan
    @darthioan Месяц назад +4

    Had to check twice if this was a LTW video, and I understand why such a huge difference in delivery, the sponsor. Really happy to see such a big sponsor. Congratulations!

  • @kolbehaldane
    @kolbehaldane Месяц назад +4

    1: Shogun 2
    2: napoleon
    3: medieval 2
    4: Attila
    5: empire
    Not including DLC's

  • @Vitrolin2408
    @Vitrolin2408 Месяц назад +14

    I think if TW:WH had permadeath for everyone like classic TWs i'd give it more favour.
    The is no strategy, or tactics, or formation, to deal with a level 30 Tyrion running at you.
    Can i beat him? Yeah, of course. But it has nothing to do with any skill, ploy, ruse, or maneuver on my part.

    • @adriankoch964
      @adriankoch964 Месяц назад

      The ruse is to ambush him twice, hide and wait for him to calmly walk off the battlefield only to get wiped out. :c)

  • @slipperywinston4076
    @slipperywinston4076 Месяц назад +5

    Hi legend, on the off chance you read this I just wanted to give you some feedback on the new format of the video. I appreciate the work that's gone into it, it's undoubtedly more concise and the cinematics really add to the experience especially for new viewers , that may ultimately help you in the algorithm. However as a a long time viewer I do appreciate the previous style of video where you have a habit of going off topic slightly and rambling about things normally not in the main script of todays video, i've learnt a lot from your off piste analysis. However It's all absolutely fine, It's sill a good video, I just don't want it to become 100% of your vids going forward. Your vids always felt so personable before and that's one of the main reasons i liked them.
    Also congrats on the new sponsor, that's really great for the channel :)

  • @nSLost
    @nSLost Месяц назад +1

    I've been randomly watching a ton of your older content, including all the old Top 5's you used to do and loving them. This just came across my suggested content feed and I assumed it was years ago too, but super happy to see it's coming out today instead. Love the content, Legend!

  • @carltonbauheimer
    @carltonbauheimer Месяц назад +47

    If all five arent the original Medieval, the list is wrong.
    Edit: the list is wrong!

    • @SereglothIV
      @SereglothIV Месяц назад +23

      1. Medieval II
      2. Medieval II: Crusades
      3. Medieval II: Britannia
      4. Medieval II: Teutonic
      5. Medieval II: America
      😂

    • @Dishol
      @Dishol Месяц назад +7

      Original Medieval doesn't get enough love. The soundtrack alone is amazing.

    • @alexfeder9328
      @alexfeder9328 Месяц назад +2

      If only it goddam worked on modern tech and high unit count didnt wont up the sieges ​@Dishol

    • @florians9949
      @florians9949 23 дня назад +1

      @@SereglothIVdebatable for Americas. You only have three factions, one is so ridiculously more powerfull than the other two. And fighting in thick jungles must be the most painfull experience in this game.

  • @sagittarius5466
    @sagittarius5466 Месяц назад +10

    Aye that’s a nice fucking sponsor you got there mate, good for you

  • @DiggDuggDude29
    @DiggDuggDude29 Месяц назад +37

    I don't agree with WH3 being #1. There is way too many bad things holding it back. Sieges, garrisons, minor settlements, diplomacy, combat animations, settlements in general, "naval", units sliding around unable to hit a single entity, Lords being giants compared to infantry, Karl Franz's armor is the wrong color still, ignoring some faction mechanics is "optimal play", some factions have been left in the dust and have barely been touched since the first game *Vampires*, the best armies consist of one unit being spammed, large parts of faction rosters should never be used, the AI has no idea what it is doing and routinely dukes its drawers during siege battles, the AI will rabidly go after the player at its own detriment for no reason, a lot of spells are very inefficient to use so you end up using the same ones over and over, Archaon looks stupid, power creep from DLC characters and factions, I'm sure you can add more to the list but these are the things I could think of. This is the one Total War that I play modded besides Empire just because of how much is wrong with it.

    • @khankhomrad8855
      @khankhomrad8855 Месяц назад +13

      I was thinking about that too. In a sense Shogun 2 and TW3 are polar opposites. Shogun 2 doesn't have a lot of content to offer, but what is there is some of the most polished content CA ever released, meanwhile TW3 has tons of content but most of it is a mess of bugs and unpolished stuff that got piled on over the years.

    • @Lones555
      @Lones555 Месяц назад +2

      Vampires are still one of the strongest factions in the game, that's likely why they don't add new things for them. Vampire Coast on the other hand have a unit roster where over 90% of units are just unusable forcing people into Necrofex spam which gets tired fast. They need a huge rework and either remove or rework the countless units that do absolutely nothing.

    • @shetlandapache949
      @shetlandapache949 Месяц назад +4

      If this video were talking about multiplayer, i could understand tww3 being near the top, but singleplayer in this game is ridiculously bad compared to any title that came out before it

    • @halwakka504
      @halwakka504 Месяц назад

      @@shetlandapache949 I preferred 2 to 3 but it's considerably better than 1.

    • @BittermanAndy
      @BittermanAndy 29 дней назад

      I mean, I recognise that you did list a lot of things there, many of which I can't dispute (and I firmly agree about sieges), but... "Karl Franz's armour is the wrong colour still"? Right, because NONE of the other TWs have ANY minor inaccuracies like that.

  • @tedrow70
    @tedrow70 29 дней назад +1

    Dude it looks like you’ve been still doing fantastic. Great to see! Nothing but growth and I’m so glad! You rock, been watching your stuff for man has to be almost a decade now. I’ve never been huge oh Warhammer 2 but I’ve loved the other ones and especially your stainless steel playthroughs, mtw2 in general, and rome, really all of them. You’re great to learn from; always appreciate your stuff cheers for the growth!

  • @Crunchsnap
    @Crunchsnap 5 дней назад

    I’ve played Rome 1 & 2, Shogun 2: Fall of the samurai, Empire and Attila. I only really spent any real time with Rome 1 and 2. I got Warhammer 1 around release but I did not enjoy it.
    Now, I recently bought Warhammer 3 with almost all the race packs on sale. This is for sure my favorite total war game of all time. It has been maybe 2 weeks but I have never had so much fun with a total war game before.
    It costs a lot, especially if you have an interest in pretty much all the races like me. To me, it has been worth every penny. Whenever I start a new campaign I am happily overwhelmed by all the faction choices that are available and I know that I would love to replay all the campaigns I’ve tried so far.
    There is so much content, it’s the best kind of insane 🙏🏻

  • @Eantrin
    @Eantrin 29 дней назад +3

    The fact Total Warhammer doesn’t have the Avatar conquest mode is a crime…. Soooooo much potential in customizing your personal lord and army just like you’d do on the tabletop.

  • @johnirby8847
    @johnirby8847 19 дней назад +2

    I play Rome Remastered every day. I wish they would remaster Medieval 2 or make Medieval 3. Return to their roots and what made them famous!

  • @sacralige
    @sacralige Месяц назад +61

    For someone that usually doesn't edit videos apart from cutting out load times (as far as I can see anyway), this was some top tier editing dude!
    Edit: I suddenly remembered you studied this, it shows :P

    • @Floris_VI
      @Floris_VI 7 часов назад

      Yeah i totally agree!

  • @h0ll0wknight16
    @h0ll0wknight16 Месяц назад +4

    PLEASE MAKE MORE CONTENT LIKE THIS !!!
    I like your disaster battles and streams, but this I LOVE

  • @aliasonarcotics
    @aliasonarcotics Месяц назад +32

    video is very clearly read from a script and i'm not sure i like it. perhaps legend just isn't used to reading a script because his content has almost always been more free-form talking?
    i understand that some audience are turned off by so-called 'yapping' and i appreciate that he's experimenting with his content to try and improve it. but it doesn't sound like 'legendoftotalwar' if that makes sense haha

    • @alfredomartinez1082
      @alfredomartinez1082 Месяц назад +6

      probably has more to do with the sponsor asking to see and approve a script as part of the agreement

    • @cursesin
      @cursesin Месяц назад +14

      Tbf this video seems to be more aimed at people newer to his channel, the veterans probably already knew his opinions

    • @dogeknows6086
      @dogeknows6086 Месяц назад

      No one cares

  • @Noldodan
    @Noldodan 16 дней назад

    Hey Legend, given your love of Med 2 and TATW, I'd love to see you play Divide and Conquer sometime. IMO it's the greatest Med 2 experience, for the unit diversity, campaign design, and all the love and polish poured into it over the years. It even fixes the stack spam that Med 2 usually devolves into (especially Stainless Steel).

  • @JaySee-sr1yj
    @JaySee-sr1yj 27 дней назад +2

    For me its
    1. Rome Total War
    2. Medieval 2 Total War
    3. Empire Total War
    4. Shogun 2 Total War
    5. Total War Warhammer 2

  • @anonnymousperson
    @anonnymousperson Месяц назад

    Your video style has really changed and gotten a lot better over the years. It's really nice to see. Looking forwards to hopefully many more years of your videos.

  • @TheNetherlandDwarf
    @TheNetherlandDwarf Месяц назад +2

    I've been playing napoleon and shogun recently. MoSS mod for shogun is still a ridiculous overhaul i come back to every few years. (but quite a lot of campaign content bloat ngl, so many units, so many buildings, the base game is itself such a fun streamlined experience, but if you want more campaign features, try it out!). Unlike Attila (which Legend mentioned at 1:52) Napoleon did eventually (aka last year... when they were forced to go back and removed chat from all the games) get a fix for its small issue of not running on modern hardware, and its still to me a far more polished and enjoyable experience to anyone who liked Empire TW. SS and SSHIP for M2TW are other mods I'd recommend.

  • @TheMorninGlory23
    @TheMorninGlory23 Месяц назад +1

    Cool video! Making me think about going back to Medieval 2 or Shogun 2 cuz when I played those as a kid I was such a noob lol

  • @Owlr4ider
    @Owlr4ider 15 дней назад +1

    Empire Total War, now that is not on release, is genuinely a great Total War game in a very unique setting(the latest of any Total War game to date) that still receives a ton of hate from people who either remember its release state(which was atrocious) or never bothered learning its intricacies to actually use its systems well. It still has its flaws of course but it's far better than most Total War fans give it credit for(even unmodded). Likewise Rome2/Attila(basically the same game, blasphemy I know, much like RTW and BI only sold separately and with tons of DLCs for both) now(as opposed to on release) is a very solid Total War game. It has its drawbacks of course like the whole city/province management but it did a lot of things right too.
    With all that said, Total War boils down to 2 main aspects: campaign and battles. In terms of battles it's Shogun 2>Medieval 2/Rome 1, Rome1/Medieval 2>everything else. In terms of campaign its all over the place as it depends on which campaign mechanics you personally prefer, like say whether you like or dislike the province system from Rome 2 and onwards or how much value you put on diplomacy with the AI. To me Three Kingdoms is absolutely not a top 4 Total War game because all it really has is diplomacy, and that's not why I play Total War. I mean yeah, I wish the other Total War games had a better diplomacy system, but that alone doesn't make a good Total War game Imho and the rest of Three Kingdoms is meh at best. Similarly while I do like Warhammer(well I only played 2, not 3) I do absolutely prefer the older Total Wars mentioned above in terms of battles as ever since CA changed to stats driven combat rather than the old system combat just doesn't feel as good, despite all the variety Warhammer has to offer, and is also the reason why I value Three Kingdom's battles so low.

  • @k2c365
    @k2c365 Месяц назад

    This video is absolutely amazing! The commentating is superb, everything about it is just great. More videos like this when?

  • @erensametkaratas6593
    @erensametkaratas6593 Месяц назад +6

    Are we back with Top 5 videos? great!

  • @thespearton4551
    @thespearton4551 Месяц назад

    I loved that you still threw hands with Atilla through the script.
    Definitely prefer your rambling style, like I'm genuinely hearing your thoughts though you did a great job regardless.

  • @Horatiusxa
    @Horatiusxa 29 дней назад +1

    Medieval 2 is a masterpiece, it’ll always be my number 1, even getting close to 20 years old

  • @blakeares3424
    @blakeares3424 Месяц назад +8

    I'm surprised Attila didn't make the list. It has a lot going for it in spite of it's flaws, and I would have put it over Rome. Especially when Medieval 2 is on the list, basically an upgraded version of the same game.

  • @booradley6832
    @booradley6832 Месяц назад +1

    NGL Medieval Total War 1 is an absolute banger. I started playing it again last year and had a great time. Its a LOT more challenging that Medieval 2 as well. You can start at 3 time periods and tehy basically function as difficulties, early is easy to even sometimes hard, high is medium to hard and late is hard to even near impossible with some. Much more of a 4x the live combat is weaker but that 4x is really cool, set up in a chessboard style. And my god is trade powerful. You have to do a lot more of governor watching though. Positive and negative traits have a lot of power.
    If you try to play though you need to set the resolution in game to a higher size or it crashes a few yerars into the campaign. Idk why it both breaks and corrects it but it fixes it.

  • @freaki0734
    @freaki0734 Месяц назад +2

    As someone who has usually played more multiplayer than singleplayer in tw games the multiplayer of shogun 2 always threw me off.
    I don't wanna have to level in order to have the same opportunity as my opponent nor do I want to have an advantage just based on the time I have put in

  • @olefredrikskjegstad5972
    @olefredrikskjegstad5972 Месяц назад +14

    Medieval 2, particularly with the Stainless Steel Mod
    Shogun 2
    Rome 1
    Attila
    Warhammer II, with Juggernaut999's rebirth mod
    Honorary Mention goes to Napoleon

    • @irishtom30
      @irishtom30 Месяц назад +1

      What does the stainless steel mod change?

    • @FREECIVVIE
      @FREECIVVIE Месяц назад +4

      @@irishtom30 Adds units, factions, expands the map by about 1/5, focuses on historical accuracy.

    • @olefredrikskjegstad5972
      @olefredrikskjegstad5972 Месяц назад +2

      @@irishtom30 Stainless Steel is an overhaul mod for Medieval II that works according to an approach I think of as "the same game, but more!"
      The map is enlarged, there's more factions and more units. There's more customization and two different start dates to play. The various expansions such as Crusades and Teutonic have some of their elements folded back into the base game.
      It's the sort of mod that just makes the game better at what it's already good at.

  • @TheRewasder97
    @TheRewasder97 Месяц назад +1

    I agree with basically everything you said. I gotta say, if Dynasties gets a Mythos dlc, it would very likely get in my top 5

  • @TheJman669
    @TheJman669 Месяц назад +3

    Two TW games that I hold above the rest though did not age great is the classic Rome total war, and the disliked Empire total war. Shotgun 2 is also goated.

  • @tar-dab
    @tar-dab Месяц назад

    So glad to see Three Kingdoms getting some love, great video and list legend

  • @AAS1-kp9cs
    @AAS1-kp9cs 29 дней назад

    I liked both videos, but the second was more free flowing and sounded more natural and fun to listen to. Would recommend creating bullet points for key points you want to cover but not fully scripting it. Cheers.

  • @Adam4ik3579
    @Adam4ik3579 19 дней назад +2

    5 Napoleon
    4 Empire
    3 Rome
    2 Medieval 2
    1 Shogun 2

  • @dangbar200
    @dangbar200 Месяц назад

    This is one of the best videos you've done. Would love to see a video on mods you recommend

  • @realbram
    @realbram 29 дней назад

    Great video. I don't like playing Warhammer myself but variety- and contentwise it's better than the others so it deserves to be #1. I hope they let some outside company develop medieval 3; I don't want to see Richard Lionheart casting spells or have a medieval battle last 3 minutes.

  • @seanc2325
    @seanc2325 Месяц назад

    Hope to see some more Medieval 2 disaster battles/campaigns come in. Or maybe even a campaign live stream. Love the content either way

  • @siebe7285
    @siebe7285 29 дней назад

    Liked the high quality vid, something different but very entertaining

  • @zyven12345
    @zyven12345 Месяц назад

    It does sound a little stilted, like reading from a script. Kinda like youtubers reading sponsor ads in the middle of their content. So I would recommend using bullet points to hit key topics instead. and using your natural voice. But I was still entertained and watched the whole video. All praise the holy algorithm.

  • @alcoolamus4208
    @alcoolamus4208 Месяц назад +1

    Funny your sponsor is Asus Rog, I just got my Asus Rog G16 and I'm having a blast with it playing WH3, R2, Attila and Empire

  • @syncopaint_minis3016
    @syncopaint_minis3016 Месяц назад

    Btw legend the script reading is good. Well explained. Especially your reasons. Needs to be done sometimes. Well done.

  • @Jixxor
    @Jixxor 29 дней назад

    Honestly, quite liked it. It was much more concise than usual, which makes sense when you got a script. The Sponsoring felt VERY "someone holds a gun to my head, I am forced to say this", but the actual rating of the games was quite alright. With more practice and time to get used to it I am sure this could feel even more natural while keeping the benefits a script brings.
    Also lmao @ 6:00. Offering food to a starving man and asking a food-producing settlement in return 🤣🤣

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 26 дней назад

    I love battles in Rome Total War for being shock and awe. Battles are seldom won through attrition, the battle is one in only a few moments where one side starts to break and the panic spreads. You can win a battle by only killing 10% of the enemy

  • @Fr1kaD3ll37
    @Fr1kaD3ll37 29 дней назад +1

    my list before watching:
    1 Shogun 2
    2 Warhammer (i dont put a number bec i see 2 and 3 as updates basically)
    3rome/barbarian invasion
    4rome 2
    5attila
    (i didn't play medival 2, i only had rome /barbarian invasion in my childhood and its still my go to old school tw)

  • @antonidas3812
    @antonidas3812 Месяц назад

    Totally agree with this list, no wonder I am a long time follower of this channel. Keep up the good work Legend!

  • @timl2098
    @timl2098 Месяц назад

    I really appreciate the amount of effort that's gone into this. It's got detailed substance behind the opinions and it's opened my eyes to some of the titles. I've always enjoyed your content, and I genuinely enjoyed this informative and professional work. Thanks for everything you do.
    FWIW; my titles of choice would be WH3 > 3K > Shogun2. I do have both Medieval2 and Attila though i've yet to play them (Steam sales). Take care.

  • @ArneoVT
    @ArneoVT Месяц назад

    My only issue with Medieval 2 is the camera controls.. to a small degree the unit controls as well, alt drag is is such a hard habit to break, thanks for the great video Legend

  • @nahiro12345
    @nahiro12345 28 дней назад

    Good list. Funny that I did not even play much of the others. Apart from Empire to get a feel for it. (Dont like that time period at all tho)
    I love the slow pace of Medieval 2 combat, so much so that I mod the other games to match its pace a bit. Gives me time to enjoy the slaughter as it happens without loosing half my army in the process.

  • @JakubOstrycharz
    @JakubOstrycharz Месяц назад

    U man are real legend. Glad u ripping the benefits. Thank for all the content from Poland 🇵🇱

  • @niallbaker7347
    @niallbaker7347 9 часов назад

    A really cool Feature from
    MTW2 and RTW was if you destroyed a faction you could then Play the campaign as them

  • @TheDanc1nghawk
    @TheDanc1nghawk Месяц назад

    Very good list. been playing since medieval 1, and I cant find any faults with your list or arguments.

  • @torbk
    @torbk Месяц назад

    I like your list. You are right, they are made from our personal bias and opinions :) You have some awesome suggestions.
    Just in case; here are mine.
    1) Warhammer III - just like you I think it is a fantastic game and I like nothing better than using magic. For me the biggest selling point is the unit diversity. I like diverse armies and my favorite battles are the ones where both armies have at least 5 or 6 different kind of units and not just a spam of two or three different ones.
    2) Pharao Dynasties - I felt this was a huge failure when it dropped, but it has now become an awesome title. Is it perfect? Of course not, but this is currently my most played TW game and though I think I will be going back to Warhammer III come the next DLC, playing as Babylon or the Peleset or Troy just tickles me in the right way.
    3) Rome II - Personally I feel this is the best classic TW game right now. Its not medieval II, its not Shogun II, but it has just the right amount of depth where needed, it has a ton of different cultures and it is probably better than Pharao Dynasties if I am honest. So why third place? I've played it until boredom, but it is definitely a good game to pick up if one doesn't have it.
    4) Napoleon - I know a lot of people prefer Empire for its greater world and campaign, but Napoleon simply feels a bit better for me. The game is a bit too small, one could argue its almost in the category of the smaller games like Thrones of Britannia, but it is also as far as I am concerned the best musket and cannon game out there to this day.
    5) Three Kingdoms - pretty much the same reasons you gave. I haven't played it for a while, but it is one of the deepest TW games and it has a very good setting and lovely atmosphere. I can get lost in this game almost forgetting to play it and simply go through the characters or stop near a city to hear the hub and bustle of the place. It might have my favorite music.
    For me, Shogun and Medieval II didn't quite make the top 5. Doesn't mean I don't love them, but Shogun's campaign was never all that fun for me, though I loved the battles and using agents in this game. Medieval II, while it has fun battles and I do enjoy how units evolve visually with upgrades, for me it hasn't aged well. I tried playing a couple of campaigns earlier this year, and the most fun I had was with a Danish one, but overall the game has become slow and cumbersome, yet with what feels like too small a campaign map. Medieval II was a lot more fun back in the day, but the newer titles have spoiled me. I should also mention Empire. It misses the list for many of the same reasons. Of all the above games it is perhaps the one that feels the oldest, despite being newer than Medieval II. Napoleon, though a smaller game, simply does many of the things Empire did better.
    I'm an old player, and have played ever single TW game, more or less as they came out, even TW Alexander. Alexander, Britannia and Pharao was probably the only games I didn't like as they came out, and Pharao they've managed to save with Pharao Dynasties.

  • @Sakarraterrum
    @Sakarraterrum 19 дней назад

    Personally, I prefer this kind of videos rather than non scripted videos which sometimes seems they are improvised. This is more "profesional" and clear

  • @Dark40061
    @Dark40061 26 дней назад

    Legend your list is amazing. It different than my list, but I love your opinion.
    My top 5 total war
    1)Medieval 2
    2)Warhammer 3
    3)Rome
    4)Empire
    5)Shogun 2

  • @gorkaet3661
    @gorkaet3661 Месяц назад

    Great video Legend, br from Spain! ❤

  • @YukalayleeGames
    @YukalayleeGames Месяц назад

    Do appreciate a well thought out video!

  • @tamim3319
    @tamim3319 Месяц назад

    Great video, Legend is still the best channel covering TW after all these years.

  • @1TonHammer
    @1TonHammer Месяц назад

    An edited LoTW video was not on my 2024 bingocard, but it was great. More of this please.

  • @zackariahtravois7125
    @zackariahtravois7125 28 дней назад +1

    Also another thing, Medieval 2's tutorial seems to be bugged where you just simply could not disembark your ship on your point

  • @WhackyRavenLand
    @WhackyRavenLand 28 дней назад

    1: Shogun (my first total war game and nostalgia).
    2: Rome
    3: Medieval 2
    4: Warhammer 3
    5: Shogun 2

  • @JFW243
    @JFW243 27 дней назад

    Total war sounds and music was way to loud in the beginning compared to voice. Also you seemed to be a bit far from the mic as it sounded a reverby. Great video content though :)

  • @LethalOwl
    @LethalOwl 28 дней назад

    WH3 is probably my top TW game as well, but my favorite historical title is Rome 2 at this point. Love Shogun 2, love Rome 1 and Medieval 2, but I don't really touch those games over Rome 2. It's probably a lot to do with me LOVING the time period, but also the wonderous diversity of units you can field and run into, depending on where you are in the world. Not nearly as varied as WH3, however, which is why that's my top pick. Magic is also fun, when I'm using it. Not so fun to be the target xD

  • @azizsh9091
    @azizsh9091 Месяц назад

    Good points.
    "The sieges have been dreadful the entire way form WH1 to 3 and yet somehow they keep getting worse.. siege rework rework when?" LOL
    I was talking about the sieges in WH3 with a friend yesterday and this line sums it all up.
    ...also congrats on the W sponsor :)

  • @TheLMescobar
    @TheLMescobar Месяц назад

    I Will Love to see some Three Kingdoms Content, After Warhammer Trilogy and Shogun 2 is my favorite Total War, I'm also a big fan of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

  • @basileusp5494
    @basileusp5494 14 дней назад

    I have to disagree simply because I don't have ANY interest in the world of Warhammer. I would put Medieval II Total War in first place simply because of the longevity and the modding community that has made this game endlessly replayable. I have been playing the game since its release, and I am glad that you acknowledged the Medieval II mods at the end of your review. Keep up the good work. Always appreciated.

  • @Duke_of_Lorraine
    @Duke_of_Lorraine 25 дней назад

    The remaster has some nice touches there and then, but more importantly uncapped provinces, factions... which is massive for modding. That's the main reason why I want a M2 Remaster

  • @CentreSwift
    @CentreSwift Месяц назад

    I'm glad to see a top 5 video they're a guilty pleasure of mine, although I would say legend sounds a bit too much like Chat GPT in this video, look forward to the next one!

  • @tremulous2830
    @tremulous2830 Месяц назад

    A great video as always, keep em coming legend ❤

  • @lyall1412
    @lyall1412 Месяц назад

    I almost completely agree with you, But I would put total war shogun 2 at the spot of medieval 2. Medieval is great but it does feel like an old game. Where I would argue Shogun feels Newer than most total war games brought out prior to warhammer 3, because of how smooth everything works in the game.

  • @Lunarice98
    @Lunarice98 29 дней назад

    1. troy (I really like not having to micro manage cavalry and I use light infantry for that role and they don't die if they get stuck in)
    2. warhammer (I like the all of the variety and i'm a sucker for a fantasy setting)
    3. rome (my first total war and i like the setting better than the medieval period)
    4. medieval 2 ( Its like rome which i love I just don't care for the setting)
    5. shogun (it is very good but its in the part of total war games that I just can't wrap my head around the limited building slots and their pitifully small bonuses for some buildings)

  • @aceflashheart
    @aceflashheart Месяц назад

    Gratz on the sponsor man!

  • @putinpunhere
    @putinpunhere Месяц назад

    Glad to see Legend return to "Top 5" vids

  • @Jannis366
    @Jannis366 Месяц назад +1

    If we put mods into consideration then medieval 2 total war is the King. The Amount of total conversion mods is insane and offers 1000`s of hours of gameplay. The modding scene for warhammer 3 is great too but medieval 2 with mods beats warhammer 3 with mods any day of the week but if we don't count mods then yes warhammer offers more

  • @HAL-cp4mt
    @HAL-cp4mt Месяц назад +1

    Old fashioned legend video, and I love it.