I'm so glad you made this, I've got a whole bunch of classes I want to play still but I had watched a video that said you needed to beat Warden Krieg on Ultimate before you could get the Merit. I didn't realize that technically only pertained to the ultimate one, and that there was a different Merit entirely if you have beaten him on Elite. I've got a character I just started Elite with, and I thought I was going to have to play the entire game again before I could get these perks on my new characters. I'm still working on the rep for experience potions but I'm only one tier away, this will subside much of the tedium in the meantime. I finally just made my first Oathkeeper, Aegis of Menhir is SO fun, as is Vire's Might....now I want to make an Oathkeeper with everything. 😆
Thanks for the view and the comment - great to hear this video helped you. I deliberately included separate footage for the Elite merit and the Ultimate merit, mainly for this exact reason - a lot of the information available for Grim Dawn builds and items is based on level 100 characters and playing in Ultimate difficulty. That’s fine, but they often miss out details like this, which means new players have to make assumptions based on available information, and those might not always be the correct assumptions.
@@Arcadelife1 Yup, that's exactly it - going to Ultimate for the experience boost is obviously optimal for new characters, so that's what all the guides say. But there's a pretty significant gap in time and commitment between beating Krieg on Elite for the first time and beating him on Ultimate, which is VERY relevant for newer players like you said. I'd rather go ahead and start my new characters and take the perks I can now, than wait however long it takes to get my first character to Ultimate. Especially as someone who's only played on Veteran, I really don't think it will matter to me that I'm NOT playing on Ultimate yet. Also, can I just say.....having just started my first Elite run, I had NO FREAKING IDEA that you got a devotion point for every shrine on EACH DIFFICULTY?? I don't know, I guess I always just figured that you could only get each shrine once regardless of the difficulty. I was at 48 points and figured I just hadn't found a few of them. But that will make filling out my devotions on new characters so much smoother, I thought I had to find every Shrine in the game on each character! That's another thing I'm sure people don't know but would love to - and I wouldn't even consider myself a newer player at 200+ hours, I've just played a few characters on Veteran and haven't really spent any time on Elite. But yeah, you could certainly make a list of "Things new players don't know about Elite and Ultimate". One last thing if I still have your attention....I've been trying to think of a good devotion skill to put on Aegis of Menhir, was thinking Hand of Ultos, Arcane Bombs, or maybe Fissure. I haven't spent much time in the Yellow part of the tree, is there some kind of bursty/explodey target-centric AOE that you think would be a good fit? I was about to go Demo for my 2nd class and I'll probably still make that character, I love how quick and dirty the bombs are, but I think Necromancer and using Bone Harvest to clean up after Aegis would be really fun, plus I've seen the potential for some interesting conversion synergy.
@@turntsnaco824 Thanks for the content suggestions (stuff about Elite/Ultimate would definitely be a good one). I’ve used Fissure on Aegis of Menhir and it’s a fun one because it puts those damage areas on the ground, so bigger groups (or individuals that survive the shield throw) keep taking damage from the Fissure(s). Also the Fissures can appear under enemies that are nowhere near the original Aegis impacts. Thanks again for the great comment contributions, much appreciated.
Hello. That npc you go on the start of the video, in my game he not selling at all any Merit to me. Not even the green or the blue ones. I play the game in normal and i have not finished it. Is that the reason? Need to complete the game to use that advantage? i need inventory space. Thx
Hi Arcade ! i am lvling my vitality character, lvl 61 now, i killed the Krieg in elite, and bought the merit for the oneshot character :) i dont know how usefull can be, opened all rifts ok, bag slots ok, but i tried to go to Ugdenbog and all mobs there are about 40 level and my character is 23..I mean monsters are not scaled with character, so killing everything in those areas should be hard for one much lower character right? Also , loot was level 40, so i couldnt equip..Whats the point of merit then ?
Malmouth DLC follows the main campaign, so the level scaling starts quite high as you noticed. Forgotten Gods is stand-alone DLC that scales from a much lower starting point so you can go straight in there after completing the Krieg quest. Merits are excellent for short-cutting all of Normal, shrine collection, starting reputation early with many factions. If you combine merits with an XP pot from Malmouth Resistance, collect a load of lore notes and read them all, you can level up into the 20s or even 30s (Ultimate merit needed) in minutes. So yeah, merits are very useful, but Malmouth DLC won’t scale down to your early level because that’s just the way it is.
Here's the "lore note levelling" video I mention in this video: ruclips.net/video/4wbsDYx9l1M/видео.html
I'm so glad you made this, I've got a whole bunch of classes I want to play still but I had watched a video that said you needed to beat Warden Krieg on Ultimate before you could get the Merit. I didn't realize that technically only pertained to the ultimate one, and that there was a different Merit entirely if you have beaten him on Elite. I've got a character I just started Elite with, and I thought I was going to have to play the entire game again before I could get these perks on my new characters. I'm still working on the rep for experience potions but I'm only one tier away, this will subside much of the tedium in the meantime. I finally just made my first Oathkeeper, Aegis of Menhir is SO fun, as is Vire's Might....now I want to make an Oathkeeper with everything. 😆
Thanks for the view and the comment - great to hear this video helped you. I deliberately included separate footage for the Elite merit and the Ultimate merit, mainly for this exact reason - a lot of the information available for Grim Dawn builds and items is based on level 100 characters and playing in Ultimate difficulty. That’s fine, but they often miss out details like this, which means new players have to make assumptions based on available information, and those might not always be the correct assumptions.
@@Arcadelife1 Yup, that's exactly it - going to Ultimate for the experience boost is obviously optimal for new characters, so that's what all the guides say. But there's a pretty significant gap in time and commitment between beating Krieg on Elite for the first time and beating him on Ultimate, which is VERY relevant for newer players like you said. I'd rather go ahead and start my new characters and take the perks I can now, than wait however long it takes to get my first character to Ultimate. Especially as someone who's only played on Veteran, I really don't think it will matter to me that I'm NOT playing on Ultimate yet.
Also, can I just say.....having just started my first Elite run, I had NO FREAKING IDEA that you got a devotion point for every shrine on EACH DIFFICULTY?? I don't know, I guess I always just figured that you could only get each shrine once regardless of the difficulty. I was at 48 points and figured I just hadn't found a few of them. But that will make filling out my devotions on new characters so much smoother, I thought I had to find every Shrine in the game on each character! That's another thing I'm sure people don't know but would love to - and I wouldn't even consider myself a newer player at 200+ hours, I've just played a few characters on Veteran and haven't really spent any time on Elite. But yeah, you could certainly make a list of "Things new players don't know about Elite and Ultimate".
One last thing if I still have your attention....I've been trying to think of a good devotion skill to put on Aegis of Menhir, was thinking Hand of Ultos, Arcane Bombs, or maybe Fissure. I haven't spent much time in the Yellow part of the tree, is there some kind of bursty/explodey target-centric AOE that you think would be a good fit? I was about to go Demo for my 2nd class and I'll probably still make that character, I love how quick and dirty the bombs are, but I think Necromancer and using Bone Harvest to clean up after Aegis would be really fun, plus I've seen the potential for some interesting conversion synergy.
@@turntsnaco824 Thanks for the content suggestions (stuff about Elite/Ultimate would definitely be a good one).
I’ve used Fissure on Aegis of Menhir and it’s a fun one because it puts those damage areas on the ground, so bigger groups (or individuals that survive the shield throw) keep taking damage from the Fissure(s). Also the Fissures can appear under enemies that are nowhere near the original Aegis impacts.
Thanks again for the great comment contributions, much appreciated.
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Hello. That npc you go on the start of the video, in my game he not selling at all any Merit to me. Not even the green or the blue ones. I play the game in normal and i have not finished it. Is that the reason? Need to complete the game to use that advantage? i need inventory space. Thx
@@customer52525 merits are sold in elite and ultimate difficulty.
Hi Arcade ! i am lvling my vitality character, lvl 61 now, i killed the Krieg in elite, and bought the merit for the oneshot character :) i dont know how usefull can be, opened all rifts ok, bag slots ok, but i tried to go to Ugdenbog and all mobs there are about 40 level and my character is 23..I mean monsters are not scaled with character, so killing everything in those areas should be hard for one much lower character right? Also , loot was level 40, so i couldnt equip..Whats the point of merit then ?
Malmouth DLC follows the main campaign, so the level scaling starts quite high as you noticed. Forgotten Gods is stand-alone DLC that scales from a much lower starting point so you can go straight in there after completing the Krieg quest. Merits are excellent for short-cutting all of Normal, shrine collection, starting reputation early with many factions. If you combine merits with an XP pot from Malmouth Resistance, collect a load of lore notes and read them all, you can level up into the 20s or even 30s (Ultimate merit needed) in minutes. So yeah, merits are very useful, but Malmouth DLC won’t scale down to your early level because that’s just the way it is.
@@Arcadelife1 thank you for your fast response!