Suggestion for putting the bike on the center stand from a 5'8", 170# 70-year-old. Of course, proper footwear is important. This method utilizes the superior strength of your legs over your arms. #1, With bike on side stand, left hand on left grip, right hand on lifting handle with knuckles facing towards seat, right foot on center stand leg, foot facing forward and body facing forward. #2, While applying force with your right foot, stand bike vertical until both center stand feet are touching the pavement. #3, Exert pressure on the center stand with your right foot, while at the same time shifting your body weight rearward. Your right hand is not so much lifting the bike as it's providing an anchor point for your leg to push against.
Nice. Try putting a 5 to 100mm mat under your rear tyre also. Raises the bike enough to make the whole operation so much easier if you are on original length shocks.
Ordered these after your last video, very pleased the install video didn't take too long to come out. Well done Teacher! I saw a similar solution to the centre stand on another channel, very keen to see the belt drive video and your feedback on that mod. Gotta say that, while I would love to do that mod it's a little out of my budget.
Teacher T, i do like the belt drive system, and, plan to put that on the SM650 of mine! Will replace the rear ahocks without hesitation-I'm 5'10" tall with 30" inseam. Biggest reason is-I weigh 280lbs. Thank-you for the update on these 2 upgrades! Doug🏍️🎉👍🤓🇺🇸🦅
You are welcome Doug. I’m only 5’8’’ with an inside leg of 28’’. So I doubt you need the lowering version of the shock. But you certainly need preload set to 2 you big boy you 😂🙏
The production run was not hard anodised. The process happened when I was in UK for 1 month. I have had my bike stripped 4 times, and on and off 2 times. This is the final time. 🙏
Unsure which setting to use for my Hagon shocks? The same ones you have but STD length. I rode it today with new shocks (Factory settings) as you say the difference is night and day wow. But the bump stop rubber was hard up to the top after the ride. Then I rode it back home (Forgot to reset the rubbers) this time I had the spring pressure up one notch in middle setting not sure I noticed a lot of difference maybe a bit harder. Now I’m unsure if I should keep it on 1 or 2 setting. I have not yet touched the damping and will probably leave that as it came. Thanks TT.
The same thing happened to me. Setting 1 night and day. The cushion rubber was pushed to the top, but never felt it bottom out like the originals did constantly on bumps. When put on 2 the ride was stiffer, but the cushion runner never made it to the top. Yesterday I tried setting 3, as saddle bags fitted and wife as pillion. Far too hard a ride. Back to 2 I go. 1 was good, but after a few months they wore in I suppose. Hope that helps 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand by the way if I were you I would get a piece of the centre stand cut out of the middle of each leg 20mm or what ever the lowering shocks were then re welded up. I had a friend who did that to his interceptor and it worked brilliantly. Obviously being under the bike the welds will be hidden and then painted black. First I would enquire how much it would cost at your local garage. Also a good subject for another video and the garage might let you film it. Or buy a welder and use an angle grinder with a cut off disc. Mr TT
@@Lostoldman I just carry a 25mm wedge in my panniers. Roll the back wheel onto it, and no problem to use the centre stand. And if I ever sell in the future (which I doubt) I can put standard length shocks back on if a taller person wants to buy 😂🙏
Hi there, the process is quite straight forward, thanks for showing us. However, I just have a query, the torque setting quoted, ie 13ft/lb seems very low. Is this a Royal Enfield spec? Cheers
If you turn the Allen key total one direction and then count the clicks back 7, that should put you in the middle of the damping range. Then play a couple of clicks in either direction until you are happy. If I recall correctly there are 14 different settings. Took me a while to dial it in 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand A technical features and ride comparison would be great. I have yet to get suppliers quotes for either, but have followed your and Moz 42 installation and initial rides with interest.
If lowering, the Chian may need slackening rather than tightening. I got away with it. My chain was a bit lose, and was perfect afterwards. Needs checking though. 🙏.
@@pete147 they really are awful. I gave mine 6 months and tried all the preload settings. Nothing I was true.y happy with until I changed the shocks. Good luck with it. A worthy upgrade 🙏
The ones I installed are the shorter models at 290mm instead of the original 310mm. I ordered mine from Hitchcocks in UK. The two part numbers on the box are: 92967/290. I think this is the Hitchcocks part number. The other number is 29009TTSAB. Hope that helps. They certainly help with the comfort of the ride 🙏
Same Hagon Shocks as yours. I have just sent this to Hichcocks and I never received a key ring either. Dear Hichcocks, I have just received my order of Hagon rear shocks Super Meteor SM650 Thanks for speedy delivery. I do not have a clue how to adjust these for my bike and my rider weight of 100KG including no pillion and no luggage. There are little instructions if any. The Hagon leaflet refers me to the side of the box for Preload adjustment ie ……” For further information on this please refer to the twin shock twin adjustment on the side of the box”. Of which there is nothing. Damping I also have no clue or starting point for the setting. But it does inform which way to turn it unlike for the Preload which doesn’t let me see what it’s already set on as my standard shocks do at a glance. A little disappointing for an expensive item.
Hopefully you get a prompt response from Hitchcocks. Emailing Hagon direct is another solution. They are very responsive. You only have 3 preload settings using the spanner. Damper adjustment t with the Allen key. Hope you figure it out soon. 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand here is itchy cocks reply 😜…..I am sorry that you think the Hagon instructions are somewhat lacking. I do agree that the instructions are limited, but there are only a couple of basic adjustments to be made and this needs to be fine-tuned to your favoured riding style. There is no standard here as it is not only the riders weight (and or passenger) that needs to be considered but every rider will have their own individual riding style that mean that what is good for one rider in not for the next. The leaflet refers to the side of the box, but Hagon have updated their boxes in the last few weeks and as you say, there is nothing on the side. However, this is also very basic, so probably not much help. I have attached a photo of the old box (2810 and 2820 follow the same adjustment). The Hagon 2820 has adjustable compression and rebound, which allows you to control the speed at which the shock absorbs and returns. You can adjust these setting using the 4mm Allen screw on the damper. I would try a ride with the bike as it is and then adjust this screw a few turns either way which should give you a noticeable difference so that you can feel your preferred set up. Once you know which way you prefer, you can find tune it in smaller turns. The spring preload is adjusted with the C spanner in the box. This is normally set on the softest setting and there are 2 harder settings. Adjusting this will give a harder ride and I would expect you to need this soft setting or the middle one.
Thank you for video! I have been looking at this model of motorcycle for a few weeks, it may be my next new motorcycle. What is your height? I'm 1.65m and I'm trying to figure out if it would fit me.
I’m 5’8’’ or 172 cm and weight 80kg. But my inside leg is only 28’’ which is why a struggle for height on all motorcycles. But not on the Meteor anymore 🙏
Hi, I'm from Italy and I'm going to get a used Super Meteor in few days. Just a question on the new dampers, why did you choose the shorter (290) then standard (310)? Really thanks!
I chose the shorter length to lower the bike, so that I could flat foot it instead of being on tip toes. If you have longer legs than 30 inch inside seam, then the standard 310mm choice will be fine 🙏
Hello, I want your opinion if you would recommend SM 650 as a first motorcycle, I always drive scooters and very low displacement motorcycles, thank you
I would say no. It's too heavy and too powerful for a first motorcycle. But the Meteor 350 however is a perfect choice. I had one for 2.5 years before upgrading to the 650 and to be honest I still miss it. I made a video about it ruclips.net/video/lYvHfEHD-28/видео.htmlsi=dGChOR0gpgLEs5kQ
All info and review is in this video ; Hagon Shocks for the Royal Enfield Super Meteor 650. Are they any good? ruclips.net/video/1h1J09k1xww/видео.html
@@Teacher-T-Thailand I was just curious as it would also be a way of lowering the height of the bike along with the Hagon shocks thereby making the bike a lot more stable.
@@simonshylla9739 since you have a disc in the rear, you gona have to seach for a rim that has the same offset or smaller, so you can use spacers to adjust alignment. Disc diameter also plays here. Possible also need a bearing swap and adjusted spacers. So you also need a front rim to match? A lot work for not so much result. You gona have to search and measure specs from different models, but all is possible. I would go for shorter shocks and eventual a slightly lower rear tire. A swap from spoke rims to casted sound like a good reason to me, i use Fat Boy rims on VN900's, but it is a 8 hour job and lathe work. But you have casted already...
Just catching up.. Been ill, is it for sale half price yet🤤 Launching my channel soon with a GoPro 7 😂 maybe we can do a collab.. But I only got two subs and their both me from my other failed channels.. P.S My 350 fireball yellow just hit 27,500 km, Cheers 🍻 *Crap Game* 🎉
thanks I bought these on your recommendation and fitted them today, I didn't lower the bike but they have done the trick, thank you.
You're welcome. I'm glad it worked for you also 💪🙏
Suggestion for putting the bike on the center stand from a 5'8", 170# 70-year-old. Of course, proper footwear is important. This method utilizes the superior strength of your legs over your arms.
#1, With bike on side stand, left hand on left grip, right hand on lifting handle with knuckles facing towards seat, right foot on center stand leg, foot facing forward and body facing forward.
#2, While applying force with your right foot, stand bike vertical until both center stand feet are touching the pavement.
#3, Exert pressure on the center stand with your right foot, while at the same time shifting your body weight rearward. Your right hand is not so much lifting the bike as it's providing an anchor point for your leg to push against.
Nice. Try putting a 5 to 100mm mat under your rear tyre also. Raises the bike enough to make the whole operation so much easier if you are on original length shocks.
Ordered these after your last video, very pleased the install video didn't take too long to come out. Well done Teacher! I saw a similar solution to the centre stand on another channel, very keen to see the belt drive video and your feedback on that mod. Gotta say that, while I would love to do that mod it's a little out of my budget.
You are welcome. I hope you find them as comfort changing as I do. A future comment after fitting would be welcomed 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand I have sent you an email asking for a favor Teacher.
I’m 5-7”. Do you think it’s a good idea for me to swap to these? Can you share the link or the exact discription of these
Teacher T, i do like the belt drive system, and, plan to put that on the SM650 of mine! Will replace the rear ahocks without hesitation-I'm 5'10" tall with 30" inseam. Biggest reason is-I weigh 280lbs. Thank-you for the update on these 2 upgrades! Doug🏍️🎉👍🤓🇺🇸🦅
You are welcome Doug. I’m only 5’8’’ with an inside leg of 28’’. So I doubt you need the lowering version of the shock. But you certainly need preload set to 2 you big boy you 😂🙏
I like the look of the YSS more and seem a better shock for upgrade
I think you are right. But in some countries, the import tax makes them highly expensive. I would love to try them though
Danke!
Thank you so much 🙏
Love wooden wedge ❤
Got to think outside the box sometimes 😂🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand It's my favorite NASA saying, "Work the problem" 🙂
I was under the impression that you were on a belt drive ? How did you go back to chains and sprockets ? Please do share. Thanks.
The production run was not hard anodised. The process happened when I was in UK for 1 month. I have had my bike stripped 4 times, and on and off 2 times. This is the final time. 🙏
Unsure which setting to use for my Hagon shocks? The same ones you have but STD length. I rode it today with new shocks (Factory settings) as you say the difference is night and day wow. But the bump stop rubber was hard up to the top after the ride. Then I rode it back home (Forgot to reset the rubbers) this time I had the spring pressure up one notch in middle setting not sure I noticed a lot of difference maybe a bit harder. Now I’m unsure if I should keep it on 1 or 2 setting. I have not yet touched the damping and will probably leave that as it came. Thanks TT.
The same thing happened to me. Setting 1 night and day. The cushion rubber was pushed to the top, but never felt it bottom out like the originals did constantly on bumps. When put on 2 the ride was stiffer, but the cushion runner never made it to the top. Yesterday I tried setting 3, as saddle bags fitted and wife as pillion. Far too hard a ride. Back to 2 I go. 1 was good, but after a few months they wore in I suppose. Hope that helps 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand by the way if I were you I would get a piece of the centre stand cut out of the middle of each leg 20mm or what ever the lowering shocks were then re welded up. I had a friend who did that to his interceptor and it worked brilliantly. Obviously being under the bike the welds will be hidden and then painted black. First I would enquire how much it would cost at your local garage. Also a good subject for another video and the garage might let you film it. Or buy a welder and use an angle grinder with a cut off disc. Mr TT
@@Lostoldman I just carry a 25mm wedge in my panniers. Roll the back wheel onto it, and no problem to use the centre stand. And if I ever sell in the future (which I doubt) I can put standard length shocks back on if a taller person wants to buy 😂🙏
Hi there, the process is quite straight forward, thanks for showing us. However, I just have a query, the torque setting quoted, ie 13ft/lb seems very low. Is this a Royal Enfield spec?
Cheers
No, not direct from RE.But from another source. It does sound low, but I think it’s right. I will try and do more research on it 🙏
Hello! Thank you for this video! I also bought new rear shocks and I will install them soon. One question: Do you know the recommended torque?
13ft lbs and a bit of loctite will sort it ;-)
Ive just changed to Hagon shocks yesterday.....the ride still feels hard on setting 1. Not sure what to set damping to with the allen key
If you turn the Allen key total one direction and then count the clicks back 7, that should put you in the middle of the damping range. Then play a couple of clicks in either direction until you are happy. If I recall correctly there are 14 different settings. Took me a while to dial it in 🙏
Great video, but I dont known if its good idea to change the shapes of the bike.
It’s a personal choice. And it works for me. But original length shocks are available 🙏
Hey Mr. T. Have you seen a comparison of the Hagon shocks with the YSS units?. Either way living in Oz requires an overseas purchase.
No I haven't. Should I make one?
@@Teacher-T-Thailand A technical features and ride comparison would be great. I have yet to get suppliers quotes for either, but have followed your and Moz 42 installation and initial rides with interest.
Hi, great video, I will be doing the same to mine. Will the chain need adjusting afterwards Or if I do the same as you and lower it by 20mm?
If lowering, the Chian may need slackening rather than tightening. I got away with it. My chain was a bit lose, and was perfect afterwards. Needs checking though. 🙏.
Thanks for the quick reply. The rear shocks are awful and need replacing . 👍
@@pete147 they really are awful. I gave mine 6 months and tried all the preload settings. Nothing I was true.y happy with until I changed the shocks. Good luck with it. A worthy upgrade 🙏
Can you plz tell us the exact model for the shocks .
The ones I installed are the shorter models at 290mm instead of the original 310mm. I ordered mine from Hitchcocks in UK. The two part numbers on the box are: 92967/290. I think this is the Hitchcocks part number. The other number is 29009TTSAB. Hope that helps. They certainly help with the comfort of the ride 🙏
Thank you!
Hey can you please tell me what is the tightening torque for rear suspension of super meteor 650
Sure. I did an update here, with info direct from RE. 🙏 ruclips.net/video/4aenaS_tAKQ/видео.html
@@Teacher-T-Thailand perfect!! Thanks
Same Hagon Shocks as yours.
I have just sent this to Hichcocks and I never received a key ring either.
Dear Hichcocks,
I have just received my order of Hagon rear shocks
Super Meteor SM650
Thanks for speedy delivery.
I do not have a clue how to adjust these for my bike and my rider weight of 100KG including no pillion and no luggage.
There are little instructions if any.
The Hagon leaflet refers me to the side of the box for Preload adjustment ie ……” For further information on this please refer to the twin shock twin adjustment on the side of the box”. Of which there is nothing.
Damping I also have no clue or starting point for the setting. But it does inform which way to turn it unlike for the Preload which doesn’t let me see what it’s already set on as my standard shocks do at a glance.
A little disappointing for an expensive item.
Hopefully you get a prompt response from Hitchcocks. Emailing Hagon direct is another solution. They are very responsive. You only have 3 preload settings using the spanner. Damper adjustment t with the Allen key. Hope you figure it out soon. 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand here is itchy cocks reply 😜…..I am sorry that you think the Hagon instructions are somewhat lacking. I do agree that the instructions are limited, but there are only a couple of basic adjustments to be made and this needs to be fine-tuned to your favoured riding style. There is no standard here as it is not only the riders weight (and or passenger) that needs to be considered but every rider will have their own individual riding style that mean that what is good for one rider in not for the next.
The leaflet refers to the side of the box, but Hagon have updated their boxes in the last few weeks and as you say, there is nothing on the side. However, this is also very basic, so probably not much help. I have attached a photo of the old box (2810 and 2820 follow the same adjustment).
The Hagon 2820 has adjustable compression and rebound, which allows you to control the speed at which the shock absorbs and returns. You can adjust these setting using the 4mm Allen screw on the damper. I would try a ride with the bike as it is and then adjust this screw a few turns either way which should give you a noticeable difference so that you can feel your preferred set up. Once you know which way you prefer, you can find tune it in smaller turns.
The spring preload is adjusted with the C spanner in the box. This is normally set on the softest setting and there are 2 harder settings. Adjusting this will give a harder ride and I would expect you to need this soft setting or the middle one.
Thank you for video! I have been looking at this model of motorcycle for a few weeks, it may be my next new motorcycle. What is your height? I'm 1.65m and I'm trying to figure out if it would fit me.
I’m 5’8’’ or 172 cm and weight 80kg. But my inside leg is only 28’’ which is why a struggle for height on all motorcycles. But not on the Meteor anymore 🙏
@@Teacher-T-Thailand, thank you for your answer, it halps me!
@@mihaelamocanu6417 no problem. Good luck.
How do i get same suspension in india?
Hi, I'm from Italy and I'm going to get a used Super Meteor in few days. Just a question on the new dampers, why did you choose the shorter (290) then standard (310)? Really thanks!
I chose the shorter length to lower the bike, so that I could flat foot it instead of being on tip toes. If you have longer legs than 30 inch inside seam, then the standard 310mm choice will be fine 🙏
Any regrets for going shorter ?
Hello, I want your opinion if you would recommend SM 650 as a first motorcycle, I always drive scooters and very low displacement motorcycles, thank you
I would say no. It's too heavy and too powerful for a first motorcycle. But the Meteor 350 however is a perfect choice. I had one for 2.5 years before upgrading to the 650 and to be honest I still miss it. I made a video about it ruclips.net/video/lYvHfEHD-28/видео.htmlsi=dGChOR0gpgLEs5kQ
@@Teacher-T-Thailand Thanks for responding and I appreciate your advice.
Hi do you have the part number for the shocks? Ta. p.s. fitting belt drive next week!
All info and review is in this video ; Hagon Shocks for the Royal Enfield Super Meteor 650. Are they any good?
ruclips.net/video/1h1J09k1xww/видео.html
Hey Teacher T, I was just wondering if it's possible to change the rear wheel from 16 inch to 15 inch.
I’m sure it”s possible, but why would you want to?
@@Teacher-T-Thailand I was just curious as it would also be a way of lowering the height of the bike along with the Hagon shocks thereby making the bike a lot more stable.
@@simonshylla9739 Depends on tyre size thereafter. It would affect RPM and Speedo. So probably not a good idea 🙏
@@simonshylla9739 since you have a disc in the rear, you gona have to seach for a rim that has the same offset or smaller, so you can use spacers to adjust alignment. Disc diameter also plays here. Possible also need a bearing swap and adjusted spacers. So you also need a front rim to match? A lot work for not so much result.
You gona have to search and measure specs from different models, but all is possible.
I would go for shorter shocks and eventual a slightly lower rear tire.
A swap from spoke rims to casted sound like a good reason to me, i use Fat Boy rims on VN900's, but it is a 8 hour job and lathe work. But you have casted already...
@@corneilcorneil would changing the size of the tyre from 150/80 r16 to somewhat say 180/60 r16 affect handling of the bike in anyway?
What was your price for a pair of these?
£220 plus UK tax (20%) plus postage. I think if you order from out side UK, UK tax is not applied. Not 100% sure, but I think that’s the case 🙏
Guve suggestions for shotgun 650
I will look into it for you 🙏
Is that price for one or a pair?
Pair 😂🙏
Hi, What is your height ?
5’ 8” but in,y a 28 inch inside leg 🙏
Just catching up.. Been ill, is it for sale half price yet🤤
Launching my channel soon with a GoPro 7 😂 maybe we can do a collab.. But I only got two subs and their both me from my other failed channels..
P.S My 350 fireball yellow just hit 27,500 km, Cheers 🍻
*Crap Game* 🎉
I’ll give you 50 000 for it 😂🙏