Very helpful I got a 2006 530xi wagon since I bought I had those issues vamos codes rpm rough idle but thank God you make this video problems started to solve never knew the camshaft had fliters
Technically, if you are looking for replacements, BMW calls the filters Non-return valves. Internally there is a spring and diaphragm to prevent the oil from leaking back to the sump. I believe the idea is to maintain a supply at the Vanos solenoid. The filter screens should not get clogged if you do oil changes every 7.5k to 10K Kms ( approx: 6000 miles) using a top grade synthetic. If you don't, then the filters will clog with coked oil and this will precipitate all sorts of engine issues. Also, if you have high mileage on the engine, like 300,000 Km, you need to replace them, since the diaphragm will begin to leak, causing Vanos faults.
if you have a N55 motor, these filters are now part of the Vanos solenoids, here are the comments from FCP Euro web site; " This solenoid is an updated design, introduced in the N55 engine, which includes integrated non-return valves and screens which were previously installed separately on the cylinder head. This technical update allows for fewer oil passages in the cylinder head and with other major improvements to the VANOS hubs allow for quicker adjustment times. The integrated screen filter in these solenoids prevents sticking due to particles in oil."
Just done this after watching your video. I was not gonna take the wheel liner off and all that so this was perfect. Took me 3 hours though as I was shitting it. Cleaned the solenoids too.
Thanks for the video. All others just say change the Vanos solenoids or camshaft bearings. I could not find anything about these filters. The Vanos filter is a filter and check valve. Its best to replace them after having Vanos solenoid codes.
Does E60 has same filters. I cleaned both soleniods there is great improvemnt in car torque and response, however still having the error code and rough idel at cold startup
Hi, We are working on a e90 presently. We replaced the hydraulic lifters in the exhaust and the regrettably in inlet side as well, we loosened the bolts that hold the vanos & cams, car seems to be making other noises now, do we need to reset timing again?
I got a inlet vanos code (2A82) and have cleared and driven without them coning back. Wonder if i should clean the vanos and filters at the same time so the code doesnt re-appear?
When i saw this video i was thinking those plugs/ filters that you removed has leaks on my wifes car never thought it has them in that side of the engine that seal when it gets old or damage due to aging it will probably cause a leak i need to take a look on my wifes car as soon as i have a chance .
I had the same issue on my 2008 X3, with 150K miles. After spending an inordinate amount of time attempting to remove the first vanos filter. I removed the underside plastic engine splash shield and placed a pan to capture any oil. I then cranked the engine over and immediately shut it off. The surge of oil pressure pushed the filter out along with about a 1 quart of oil. This is how I was able to remove & replace the vanos filters (one at a time) as the inner fender on 2008 X3 is not removable
@@JoeSmith-oc5hs Good trick. I have to keep this in mind. But why didn't you try to clean the hole with sand paper first, I'm thinking it probably the aluminum oxide crud over the years????
Can someone please help, I tried removing the check valve and it unscrewed all the way out but it's not popping out. It keeps on spinning at the end. I have no way to grab it and pull it out. I believe the compressed O-ring is still holding it in. The engine is N52. Has anyone got any ideas?
mine it's acting up. the rpm jumps while idling, specially when I have the ac on, I took the solenoids out they looked pretty good, but I didn't know they had filters
Hey, just had a look at your video. It's pretty strange. How is your battery ? When have the plugs been done ? You can check the vanos filters, it can only do good to clean them up, at least you'll know if they're in good condition or not. I think the problem might come from the AC itself, as if the compressor stopped and started again in the fraction of a second, hense making the idle change. Your engine seems to be running smoothly so see if you can invsetigate in that direction.
Anyone can do that ! so I took the cover and everything, and checked the eccentric shaft sensor that is the first thing you see before the spark plugs, and is clean, also I cleaned the filters and I found the problem... the spark plugs were destroyed ... they were burnt like beef jerky, so replaced all six of em and it's fixed
Hi. I have a 2009 BMW 335i. It has a trouble code P052B - cold start ‘A’ camshaft position timing over retarded bank 1. I replaced both Vanos solenoids that are located on the front of the engine, and did this procedure for both filters as well. The code keeps coming back instantly. When you first start the car, the idle is kinda rough and RPMs fluctuate. But it eventually turns into normal idling after about 30secs - 1 minute. What do you think the problem is? Anyone else had a similar problem to mine?
Hi i have the exact same problem with... cold start engine n52 e61 2006 530i. for the first few seconds the engine is really rough running then it quiets down with a little bit of variance in the idle speed and after 30 seconds it runs beautifully.. mind you already changed all spark plug (now have 4 points) ngk iridium , coils, i changed big disa valve (flap was broken and lose) .. i am about to change ccv system and small disa valve and intake gaskets .. but currently problem still persists did you find the cause to your specific rough running cold start problem? btw i do not have any codes.. in about a week can check codes again..
Jean Saris 153 i have removed the return valves but they were already clean i did use brake cleaner to clean but same rough start is there . now i moving my investigation to the intake system again. i have cleaned the throttle body as it was covered in oil.. but i did not put it back together again because the big disa valve which i already replaced has metal pin and because disa was broken the metal pin could still be in the intake. if it is sucked in the engine then it could cause catastrophic failure to the engine @ jean do you see any fault codes anyone have any idea about the cause -
@@jeansaris153 No LIMP mode engine status or misfires on cilinders.. I did have a code in memory history : 2A99 about 5000 Km ago and because of that I replaced the solenoid exhaust side.. And started to suspect return valves. But i did not see any code related to oxigen sensors like you have. .. Doctor Dean does have a video on this topic Talking about firmware update for N52 ruclips.net/video/GwXSzIv87d8/видео.html
Hi, I don't know if that can solvve the problem but it's not very hard to do so I would try that first. At least you will know if the VANOS filters are dirty or not. Good luck ;¬).
Best tutorial I've seen for removing these check valves, thank you!!
Very helpful I got a 2006 530xi wagon since I bought I had those issues vamos codes rpm rough idle but thank God you make this video problems started to solve never knew the camshaft had fliters
Hi, I'm very happy if my video helps with your problem. I hope it's just that. Keep me posted ;¬).
Technically, if you are looking for replacements, BMW calls the filters Non-return valves. Internally there is a spring and diaphragm to prevent the oil from leaking back to the sump. I believe the idea is to maintain a supply at the Vanos solenoid. The filter screens should not get clogged if you do oil changes every 7.5k to 10K Kms ( approx: 6000 miles) using a top grade synthetic. If you don't, then the filters will clog with coked oil and this will precipitate all sorts of engine issues. Also, if you have high mileage on the engine, like 300,000 Km, you need to replace them, since the diaphragm will begin to leak, causing Vanos faults.
Ok, thanks for all those precisions ;¬) !
thanks for the info
if you have a N55 motor, these filters are now part of the Vanos solenoids, here are the comments from FCP Euro web site;
"
This solenoid is an updated design, introduced in the N55 engine, which includes integrated non-return valves and screens which were previously installed separately on the cylinder head. This technical update allows for fewer oil passages in the cylinder head and with other major improvements to the VANOS hubs allow for quicker adjustment times. The integrated screen filter in these solenoids prevents sticking due to particles in oil."
Just done this after watching your video. I was not gonna take the wheel liner off and all that so this was perfect. Took me 3 hours though as I was shitting it. Cleaned the solenoids too.
to avoid dropping when putting in, put a piece of paper between the bolt and T40 to make it tight, trick learn from CAR WIZARD
Or a leaf if you work outside
Top is intake and bottom is exhaust. For anyone wondering.
Thanks for the video. All others just say change the Vanos solenoids or camshaft bearings. I could not find anything about these filters. The Vanos filter is a filter and check valve. Its best to replace them after having Vanos solenoid codes.
My pleasure George. I always prefer to check the cheap and easy things before gooing any further in repairs.
Everything about this video is genius thank you man
Does E60 has same filters. I cleaned both soleniods there is great improvemnt in car torque and response, however still having the error code and rough idel at cold startup
Do you know, does the E90 with N43 engine have these non-return valves? Thanks.
Better using a magnetic bit holder
Thank you
great video.thank you for your time to teach us.
Thamks, my pleasure 😉 !
Hi,
We are working on a e90 presently. We replaced the hydraulic lifters in the exhaust and the regrettably in inlet side as well, we loosened the bolts that hold the vanos & cams, car seems to be making other noises now, do we need to reset timing again?
this was really helpful, thank you
Glad it helped you out :-) !
Great video thank you!
I got a inlet vanos code (2A82) and have cleared and driven without them coning back. Wonder if i should clean the vanos and filters at the same time so the code doesnt re-appear?
what kiwrench 3/8th or 1/4th and did u use a SWIVEL?
nd of
You will get better access to the filters by removing the front wheel and wheel arch liner...
Absolutely, but I wanted to try like this to save time, and even if you can't see much it's fairly easy to do.
what were ur symptoms before u cleaned these did u have codes?
I didn't have any problems, it was just by curiosity.
Heloo bro, I have a problem with the engine, can you help me?
How long is the total lenth?
(T40 torx + extension + rachet)
Yes swivel
@killed_phill796 well I want to know the length of that tool
Could you tell me about the length of your tool?
@@jonghyeonnam5519t40 2in extension ratchet should do it
Great job
What did you clean them with if I may ask? I can’t hear anything you’re saying.
Oi Shirley brake cleaner
Does the oil run out when you take the filters out the block?
Not at all, only what was in the filters ;¬).
Merci.✋😐
Did u change exhaust headers from n53?
Hi, non, didn't change any parts.
Did you notice any improvements after cleaning? At what mileage should I clean them?
No, but they weren't dirty. Whatever the mileage it's a good idea to check them out.
Hello, did oil leak out when you removed it? how much oil leaked?
Hi, really not much. It's not going to flow out if that's your cencern.
I cant reach mine what kind of tool did u use..my ac connector is in the way..i cant fit a 3/8th thru to get at them
Hi, I used a 1/4 with extender to get through. 3/8 might just be to wide.
HI THANK U yes i think the 3/8th is too big it wont fit in there with a 40 torx..no way
@@fab-b9818
Thanks boss. Do you know if the top is intake and bottom is exhaust?
You're welcome 😉 ! No I don't know sorry,
Top is intake bottom is exhaust
Merci! Moi qui vient d'acheter une 330i ca va m'aider je voulais les changer par précaution mais impossible de trouver la ref!?
De rien ! Déjà les nettoyer leur fera du bine, sinon regarde sur realOEM pour la référence 😉.
@@FabB c'est fait mais je trouvais pas leur nom n'est pas ce que je pensais et comme on en voit une seule ca faisait plus vis :)
When i saw this video i was thinking those plugs/ filters that you removed has leaks on my wifes car never thought it has them in that side of the engine that seal when it gets old or damage due to aging it will probably cause a leak i need to take a look on my wifes car as soon as i have a chance .
Yes it's possible that the O ring leaks if it's damaged. If it's that, the fix will be easy.
So you washed off the very same engine oil that will re-coat them after 3 seconds of engine running. Other than that was did you achieve?
I achieved to show how to get to them. I just wanted to check them out, they were in perfect condition.
@@fab-b9818 I appreciate you making the video, some people were curious on if they can be cleaned or even what they looked like.Thanks man
At least they won’t be clogged or gunk in there.
Which one is exhaust
We need any programer for this
What extender did you use
Hi does E60 have same vanos filters?
Hi, I don't know all engines but if it's the N52 it will be the same.
hi
is it t40 or t45?
I tried to remove these filters and they just keep spinning in place any suggestions to remove ?
You have to remove the wheel liner..and kinda pry them while out while rotating them. Tricky but doable
I had the same issue on my 2008 X3, with 150K miles. After spending an inordinate amount of time attempting to remove the first vanos filter. I removed the underside plastic engine splash shield and placed a pan to capture any oil. I then cranked the engine over and immediately shut it off. The surge of oil pressure pushed the filter out along with about a 1 quart of oil. This is how I was able to remove & replace the vanos filters (one at a time) as the inner fender on 2008 X3 is not removable
@@JoeSmith-oc5hs Good trick. I have to keep this in mind. But why didn't you try to clean the hole with sand paper first, I'm thinking it probably the aluminum oxide crud over the years????
Can someone please help,
I tried removing the check valve and it unscrewed all the way out but it's not popping out. It keeps on spinning at the end. I have no way to grab it and pull it out. I believe the compressed O-ring is still holding it in. The engine is N52. Has anyone got any ideas?
Why did you have to clean them? Any symptoms or you just did it as preventative measure?
I checked them just by curiosity and also in prevention, at least now I know how they are and how to get to them.
mine it's acting up. the rpm jumps while idling, specially when I have the ac on, I took the solenoids out they looked pretty good, but I didn't know they had filters
Hey, just had a look at your video. It's pretty strange. How is your battery ? When have the plugs been done ? You can check the vanos filters, it can only do good to clean them up, at least you'll know if they're in good condition or not.
I think the problem might come from the AC itself, as if the compressor stopped and started again in the fraction of a second, hense making the idle change. Your engine seems to be running smoothly so see if you can invsetigate in that direction.
Anyone can do that ! so I took the cover and everything, and checked the eccentric shaft sensor that is the first thing you see before the spark plugs, and is clean, also I cleaned the filters and I found the problem... the spark plugs were destroyed ... they were burnt like beef jerky, so replaced all six of em and it's fixed
OK, great news, thanks for telling me ;).
Hi. I have a 2009 BMW 335i. It has a trouble code P052B - cold start ‘A’ camshaft position timing over retarded bank 1. I replaced both Vanos solenoids that are located on the front of the engine, and did this procedure for both filters as well. The code keeps coming back instantly. When you first start the car, the idle is kinda rough and RPMs fluctuate. But it eventually turns into normal idling after about 30secs - 1 minute. What do you think the problem is? Anyone else had a similar problem to mine?
Hi i have the exact same problem with... cold start engine n52 e61 2006 530i.
for the first few seconds the engine is really rough running then it quiets down with a little bit of variance in the idle speed and after 30 seconds it runs beautifully.. mind you already changed all spark plug (now have 4 points) ngk iridium , coils, i changed big disa valve (flap was broken and lose) .. i am about to change ccv system and small disa valve and intake gaskets .. but currently problem still persists
did you find the cause to your specific rough running cold start problem?
btw i do not have any codes.. in about a week can check codes again..
@@reneburema7634 i have the same Problem like you...😢
Jean Saris 153 i have removed the return valves but they were already clean i did use brake cleaner to clean but same rough start is there . now i moving my investigation to the intake system again.
i have cleaned the throttle body as it was covered in oil.. but i did not put it back together again because
the big disa valve which i already replaced has metal pin and because disa was broken the metal pin could still be in the intake. if it is sucked in the engine then it could cause catastrophic failure to the engine
@ jean do you see any fault codes
anyone have any idea about the cause
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@@reneburema7634 Hallo Rene, yes i have the p114b fault code..
@@jeansaris153 No LIMP mode engine status or misfires on cilinders..
I did have a code in memory history : 2A99 about 5000 Km ago and because of that I replaced the solenoid exhaust side.. And started to suspect return valves. But i did not see any code related to oxigen sensors like you have. ..
Doctor Dean does have a video on this topic
Talking about firmware update for N52
ruclips.net/video/GwXSzIv87d8/видео.html
What engine is it? N52 or N53 ?
n52 right there
hola tengo el codigo 002A82 en un bmw 325 e90 2010. Crees que este video ayude a eliminar el codigo? saludos desde mexico
Hi, I don't know if that can solvve the problem but it's not very hard to do so I would try that first. At least you will know if the VANOS filters are dirty or not. Good luck ;¬).
Hello people,
I try to find the correct part name / number for 2006 530i
I lost ... HELP
Hi, you'll find all part numbers here www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/select
Is that your car, an E90 ?
what size torx?
ok I find - T40
Mine were T30....
@@RealBrada hi,what exactly is the difference between ribe rm6 and a t40??... thank you :-)
Recien saque los mios y estaban totalmente tapados jajaa...que mal cuidado que estaba este auto por favor
This is for e92 ass well
Yes 😉
CN someone put what kind of tools they are using jesus chrt
He says in the video you fucktard
This socket is RIBE RM6 or RIBE M6! T40 is funny attempt
lol how funny everyone uses T40 in thee videos and are successful
You can not see how you remove the vanos or re inserting them. BS
Use your brain you fucktard