@Justin Wong, the reason gwm proton cannon is doing that much damage and causing a dizzy out is because that guy is using autofire. Basically gwm proton cannon in particular is mashable for more hits, usually you can get around 35-38 hits max with really hard mashing. Him getting around 50 is pretty much impossible without autofire.
@@Jasonred79squeek It actually did decent damage, the problem isn't the damage output from bbx, its due to justins inexperience with mvc1, he isn't able to play wolverine to the level needed to body gwm. When a wolverine user knows how to abuse all of his tools in mvc1 gwm is essentially fodder to him.
@@Jasonred79squeek Long reply here but: That is good damage vs gwm specifically. Firstly both chars have different health values, with wolverine being a low health character and gwm having one of if not the highest health in the game, as well has dealing high damage per move. Yes that proton cannon did alot of damage, and it did seem that bbx didn't do as much. However, again, this still isn't a factor when at high level gwm isn't even able to hit a wolverine that is played correctly, as wolverine for example is fast enough to jump in vs gwm with a hp, hk then instantly grab gwm or land, do s.hp and sj away before gwm can do anything, with each hit uncombo'ing on gwm for some reason and doing ALOT more damage than it should, you can easily wear down gwm doing that to get nearly 40% damage each time from using those normals and then just sj'ing away. The reason why jwong is losing here is due to lack of mvc1 experience and lack of experience using wolverine, because if he had the exp/knowledge using wolverine none of what the gwm user did here would work at all, so the damage difference would essentially be a non factor. Wolverine played correctly is the best character in the game by far, what you see here is just an inexperienced wolverine vs a basic level gwm.
it's almost like........j.wong is a professional and a well adjusted human being and not a whiny beta who thinks he's a alpha when he can't even get out of the pools.
A professional will take it as a challenge and that's what Justin did. Though I wonder about the other person and if he (or she) will brag to their friends they beat Justin Wong using some uber cheapness, I'm sure they would probably leave that part out.
Not sure why Justin's surprised he didn't get GG'd. Double War Machine is basically announcing to the world "IDGAF about fun or honor, I just wanna win" like a 12 year old picking Akuma in the arcade.
Anonymous uses autofire a lot. Gold War Machine's rockets are mashable, and with autofire you can even take a full health bar Most high level Gold War Machine players can't even get up to 35 or 40 rockets.
This really explains a lot, because I've played this exact same match-up plenty of times, and I have never seen GWM get that many hits from his super, and I've never seen the opponent spin out from getting hit by it. That shit is crazy lol.
"That's unblockable" Yep, that's why we do it. A lot of characters have combos that reset the combo meter, which resets damage scaling. Some of the easier ones would be Chun Li's air combo to super, in the air do lp lk and cancel into kick super, the super will connect as a single hit, unblockable with full damage. Or wolverines corner combo. c.lk c.mp mk mk c.hp hk. On a lot of the cast, this will reset. On Spider-Man, you can even do the mk mk c.hp hk again a second time. Absolutely destroys characters.
Pro tip: Michelle Heart's the best partner assist for both Wolverine and Strider Hiryu. She'll attack your opponent where ever they're at, even if they're off screen.
The double war machine is the most broken and unfair team in the game in my opinion, im play really much fightcade and its very difficult to fight this team XD. Greeting
Without question they are. To me, the most stupid part about the Duo-Wars team is their Duo Hyper Supers together, because the Aerial Missiles supers just do so much insane damage and chip damage that it becomes absurdly annoying.
Ad-Justin Wonggg to the projectile trap! The editing and the matches were awesome, especially the Strider cross screen to avoid Proton Cannon. Good stuff!
years ago late 90s when in an arcade tword the end of the last days of mall arcades like Aladins castle or Tilt. I remember the first time I saw M vs C I got in the line of kids to step up and played my first try against another kid in the arcade and I had iron man and when I did the proton cannon by accident to win the match I SILENTLY FELL IN LOVE WITH MvsC and iron man / warmachine. to see a giant oversized blaster cannon appear in his hand and just blast a 30 hit combo is pure sex
Iv been watching Anonymous on fightcade2. Some of those A level players are monsters. You get no joy in beating them cos u just unlock majeztik. i just like to watch.😅
@@carlosaugusto9821 Oh, right, that was hyper armor. Super armor usually lasts a hit or 2/3, but hyper armor is basically like big boss enemy armor. Oops. :)
cutting in the old guy cleaning himself with the towel from the background got me so hard, I haven't spit cherry choke like that since the 90s when me and my bro first noticed that dude in the background
Man that dude knew that he was playing Jwonggg that dude was like I need a win lol and went to the war machines lol if Jay had played them he would have never won lol
I remember it like it was yesterday. Summer of 1998. I was 14 years old. Family trip to Cedar Point. My brother Ben and I had just got off the mean streak and wandered through an Arcade to meet up with the rest of the family and I caught a glimpse of what appeared to be “Marvel Super Heroes vs Street fighter” out the corner of my eye... “uh, was that??!? No, couldn’t be.” Ben did a fucking 180 and was like “Yo! Nick, MOTHER FUCKING MEGAAAAAAAA MAAAAAAAN!!!” This shit wasn’t real. Was it?!?? It was. And nothing has ever been the same since that day.
I used to play this team in the arcade when I felt like trolling lol. Haven't watched the vid yet. Just saw thumbnail, had to respond. Nostalgia! Will def come back to watch later tonight. Looking forward to it. Infinite War Destroyers do so much chip!
Roll is not too bad in this game since she actually deals damage in comparison to Roll in MVC2, MVC2 toned down a lot of the MVC1 characters with only a few exceptions. Because of DUO roll is perfectly fine by playing the run away and grab game since she is so small and lot of supers and combos cannot be performed on her.
I am a Fightcade player and I recognize a good player, JWonggg you are looking for combos, those who play with a double war machine only wait for the mistake of the player, they are mousers. I congratulate you
love the stream highlights. Whish there was longer highlights to accompany the shorter one. And tourneys are always hype, especially when you do the commentary after the fact.
0:03 and 2:57 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... xD Now I wish to see double Hulk (original and orange), double Venom (original and red), double Morrigan and double Chun-Li battles someday.
i do strider and morrigan against this same fighter. morrigan's small frame and air control have an edge so i use her to build meter for strider. not good enough to win a first to 5 but still get wins
i also get better mileage against gwm with venom's MK because while that broken air thing wm does is unblockable, you can mash out with MK and venom and slip out with morrigan
wolverine in some ways is not the best character against gwm because a lot of people resort to gwm because of a beast wolverine's infinites so a lot of gwm players are too savvy for wolverine
I don't think the health of regular characters in Marvel 1 is different between each other, I'm pretty sure only Red Venom and Onslaught have differing health points.
@@LordRaptor There are health differences with the characters in this game, definitely noticable with Zangief and the regular Hulk. I use to own this game back in the good old dreamcast era, and played it a lot back in the arcades too. I use to hang out in the same arcade spot Justin Wong use to hang out at over a decade ago.
@@shinsmoke There's not a single source that supports this and you can easily tell by playing it that there's no difference between Wolverine or Hulk's health because they take the same amount of damage (I've just tested it right now), I've been playing this game for almost 20 years and I'm pretty much familiar with every playable character in the arcades, the ONLY character that takes more damage is Red Venom, period. Maybe Onslaught has a slightly different system but I'm not super familiar with Onslaught, this stamina system only became universal in MvC2.
@@LordRaptor Have you ever tried infinite combos in this game? Well, I have, and I noticed damage differences when it's done to different characters, especially Gambit's infinite. Do your favorite combo against every character on full health, and you'll see a damage difference. Played this game since it was released back in the arcades. I know what I am talking about, stop trying to prove me wrong!
The way Golden War Machine can punish Berserker Barrage X on hit is absolutely ridiculous.
I love Marvel 1 so damn much. MvC2 overshadowed it to such a ridiculous extent, people forget how hype the first game was.
@Dam Sen mvc1 soundtrack is brilliant
Pukachi.???
To this day, I still perfer the first to the second.
I don't think I could go that far. MvC1 was an objectively better video game, but MvC2 was a whole culture, a way of life.
@@rachelespiritu4215 when they took away medium punch and medium kick I was so sad. It was the beginning of making games accessible for casuals
@Justin Wong, the reason gwm proton cannon is doing that much damage and causing a dizzy out is because that guy is using autofire. Basically gwm proton cannon in particular is mashable for more hits, usually you can get around 35-38 hits max with really hard mashing. Him getting around 50 is pretty much impossible without autofire.
2:15 and why does beserker barrage barely tickle GWM?
@@Jasonred79squeek It actually did decent damage, the problem isn't the damage output from bbx, its due to justins inexperience with mvc1, he isn't able to play wolverine to the level needed to body gwm. When a wolverine user knows how to abuse all of his tools in mvc1 gwm is essentially fodder to him.
@@Aky66100 what are you talking about. The Proton Cannon at 1:18 does around 60%, and the berserker barrage at 2:15 does 15%. That doesn't seem fair?
@@Jasonred79squeek Long reply here but:
That is good damage vs gwm specifically. Firstly both chars have different health values, with wolverine being a low health character and gwm having one of if not the highest health in the game, as well has dealing high damage per move. Yes that proton cannon did alot of damage, and it did seem that bbx didn't do as much.
However, again, this still isn't a factor when at high level gwm isn't even able to hit a wolverine that is played correctly, as wolverine for example is fast enough to jump in vs gwm with a hp, hk then instantly grab gwm or land, do s.hp and sj away before gwm can do anything, with each hit uncombo'ing on gwm for some reason and doing ALOT more damage than it should, you can easily wear down gwm doing that to get nearly 40% damage each time from using those normals and then just sj'ing away.
The reason why jwong is losing here is due to lack of mvc1 experience and lack of experience using wolverine, because if he had the exp/knowledge using wolverine none of what the gwm user did here would work at all, so the damage difference would essentially be a non factor. Wolverine played correctly is the best character in the game by far, what you see here is just an inexperienced wolverine vs a basic level gwm.
@@Aky66100 wait? Better than Strider? I always thought I heard Strider was the best.
Shout out to Justin's Editor (whom we will apparently never see 👀) for the guns during the Proton Cannon
Was about to say much love to the editor
Type in queueSS in twitch
You never knew who his editor is?
It’s Wustin Jong.
Bro, his editor constantly streams and he streams his edits Justin videos live, too. QueueSS is amazing editor and hilarious
#datSTROKElife.
Yeah he's the real MVP for Wongs channel.
The man knows how to take an azz whoopin. Does not rage quit, just takes and keeps coming.
it's almost like........j.wong is a professional and a well adjusted human being and not a whiny beta who thinks he's a alpha when he can't even get out of the pools.
This is literally how you get better. If people could just realize this and keep at it they would be so much better at fighting games
@@maxacorn
*Cough* LTG
A professional will take it as a challenge and that's what Justin did.
Though I wonder about the other person and if he (or she) will brag to their friends they beat Justin Wong using some uber cheapness, I'm sure they would probably leave that part out.
@maxacorn imagine talking about beta/alpha crap.
JWong: "Secret characters are broken."
Roll: "..."
Red Hulk -_-
I've kicked ass with Roll. Some people don't know how to deal with her. Usually brings out the hyper venoms.
Shadow in darkstalkers 3:
Her theme song is OP
I like the fact that you can see her underwear
Not sure why Justin's surprised he didn't get GG'd. Double War Machine is basically announcing to the world "IDGAF about fun or honor, I just wanna win" like a 12 year old picking Akuma in the arcade.
i used to get banned frequently from guild wars 1.
because my goal in pvp missions was always to win, not to "have fun".
So fugging accurate!! 😂😂
I always pick Cammy when I was 12 tho~
LOL … honestly in a round about way I blame SBMM in Call of Duty for this mentality.
6:35 Best Moment. Love You bro
Bruh... 3:01 was Best Moment. Lol
Anonymous uses autofire a lot. Gold War Machine's rockets are mashable, and with autofire you can even take a full health bar
Most high level Gold War Machine players can't even get up to 35 or 40 rockets.
@Dam Sen back in the day almost all supers were mashable, lol
This really explains a lot, because I've played this exact same match-up plenty of times, and I have never seen GWM get that many hits from his super, and I've never seen the opponent spin out from getting hit by it. That shit is crazy lol.
Bro, he isn't a legit player if he uses autofire to get a number of hits that isn't possible usually
@@Aky66100 Fair point, I'll fix that
Didnt even know that was mashable and played that loads
The hokuto no ken was a mic drop. That was the best.
This has got to be one of the best matches I've seen in MvC. Rooting for Justin the whole time!
"That's unblockable" Yep, that's why we do it. A lot of characters have combos that reset the combo meter, which resets damage scaling. Some of the easier ones would be Chun Li's air combo to super, in the air do lp lk and cancel into kick super, the super will connect as a single hit, unblockable with full damage.
Or wolverines corner combo. c.lk c.mp mk mk c.hp hk. On a lot of the cast, this will reset. On Spider-Man, you can even do the mk mk c.hp hk again a second time. Absolutely destroys characters.
That sounds extremely unbalanced.
@@calivali2876 This series doesn't exactly care about balance, especially the earlier entries.
@@fernandoleonelalba220 yeah I figured, it’s such an old early game. I used to use strider all the time so I realize how cheap this game used to be 😂
The fact that OP defends the war machines. Pathetic.
are you really lecturing J Wong in a youtube comment? lmao
"Here's my sunday best"
"Here's my comittment"
"If I can make it"
“Approximation”
"It's time for payback!"
"Hit by anything! Proton Cannon!"
"In-vaisuh baby! Proton Cannon!"
I will never not hear "here's my Sunday best... PROTON CANNON!!"
Impossible to know that’s what the voice actor says
You got me with the man cleaning it's back. I DIDN'T SEE IT COMING.... AHAHAHAHAHAHA
6:27
He must have forgot strider can fly
The cut at that double special by the War Machines had me ROFL
Lol at the colossus at the end. 🤣 he said my colossus is stronger. He’s built different
That warmachine combo made me laugh so hard
6:28 One of does not simply do "you are already dead" without the "NANI?!?!?!"
Pro tip: Michelle Heart's the best partner assist for both Wolverine and Strider Hiryu. She'll attack your opponent where ever they're at, even if they're off screen.
The double war machine is the most broken and unfair team in the game in my opinion, im play really much fightcade and its very difficult to fight this team XD. Greeting
Without question they are. To me, the most stupid part about the Duo-Wars team is their Duo Hyper Supers together, because the Aerial Missiles supers just do so much insane damage and chip damage that it becomes absurdly annoying.
@Zedrik Allen he can't block, so you need a team that can build meter and melt his health bar with a THC.
6:30 Fist of the North Star!!! You're already dead. EPIC.
Pod, that win quit makes it sting even worse…GGs Justin!😆
That air dash over the Proton Cannon was clean AF!
Ad-Justin Wonggg to the projectile trap! The editing and the matches were awesome, especially the Strider cross screen to avoid Proton Cannon. Good stuff!
years ago late 90s when in an arcade tword the end of the last days of mall arcades like Aladins castle or Tilt. I remember the first time I saw M vs C I got in the line of kids to step up and played my first try against another kid in the arcade and I had iron man and when I did the proton cannon by accident to win the match I SILENTLY FELL IN LOVE WITH MvsC and iron man / warmachine.
to see a giant oversized blaster cannon appear in his hand and just blast a 30 hit combo is pure sex
7:01 when war machine has had enough of wolverine! 😂
He was using auto fire for that GWM Justin
Damn. That last Colossus rush just took everybody out 😱. Well fought, Justin.
Damn he got close to beating a top player, props to Justin
I spy an Arcade1up BigBlue in your background!! Hope you get on the MvC1 Arcade1up and play some folks too. :)
Hasnt been released but it's just casually in his background and he's not mentioning it lol😑
Maaaan that Strider flying move to evade the proton cannon was awesome and smart!!!! You are a PROOOO, maan!!!
Legit applauded @6:27
Yh strider and morrigans mobility are kickass, not to mention chunli, shadowlady
Thank you Justin Wong! You been putting the G in FGC for a minute. Here’s your flowers 💐
Iv been watching Anonymous on fightcade2. Some of those A level players are monsters. You get no joy in beating them cos u just unlock majeztik. i just like to watch.😅
Ah, War Machine...one was trouble enough. Two with the other having super armor?! Good luck. 😂😂
Hyper armor, worse
@@carlosaugusto9821 Oh, right, that was hyper armor. Super armor usually lasts a hit or 2/3, but hyper armor is basically like big boss enemy armor. Oops. :)
@@starbreaker6441 Beats me.
@@starbreaker6441 think of this series like a fantasy type. There's a lot of things that wouldn't apply to.tekken or street fighter here
cutting in the old guy cleaning himself with the towel from the background got me so hard, I haven't spit cherry choke like that since the 90s when me and my bro first noticed that dude in the background
the clutch dash @6:29, you got a like for that one bro.
Wow this ultra instinct intro got me 😂
4:15
The Wolverine "Chun-li" toe tap.
Justin would be the one 😂😂😂
When I asked for a best of jwong getting washed. I did not expect him to provide it so soon. This will do. Thanks jwong.
It was a kinda close match tbh
@@carlosaugusto9821 a close match is 10:2 in jwongs favor. Any closer and it's either his cat scratched him or the apocalypse is near.
This is the best mvc.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
6:26 Honestly, I'm just here for Justin's mini pop off🤣🤣🤣
Yo that fist reference made me laugh so hard props to justin's editor. That came out of nowhere.
Yo justin these thumbnails are getting better man
6:35
*teleports behind u*
"Heh, nothin personnel, kid"
6:28 The mark of a true Strider
As a gamer you gained my respect bro! You not just overcame the OP warmachines, you played ethicaly by not doing infinites. Kudos to you and salute!
MvC1, I know Jin isn't the best, but he's my boy! I love him in this game
Same, wicked theme and great hyper combos
That's rudeza for me 🥺
Jin! Woot!
Man that dude knew that he was playing Jwonggg that dude was like I need a win lol and went to the war machines lol if Jay had played them he would have never won lol
6:39 little bit of Chinese comin out huh? 😂 😂 😂
6:29 GENIUS!!! 😍🥰😍🥰
I remember it like it was yesterday.
Summer of 1998. I was 14 years old. Family trip to Cedar Point. My brother Ben and I had just got off the mean streak and wandered through an Arcade to meet up with the rest of the family and I caught a glimpse of what appeared to be “Marvel Super Heroes vs Street fighter” out the corner of my eye... “uh, was that??!? No, couldn’t be.”
Ben did a fucking 180 and was like “Yo! Nick, MOTHER FUCKING MEGAAAAAAAA MAAAAAAAN!!!”
This shit wasn’t real. Was it?!?? It was. And nothing has ever been the same since that day.
I used to play this team in the arcade when I felt like trolling lol.
Haven't watched the vid yet. Just saw thumbnail, had to respond. Nostalgia!
Will def come back to watch later tonight. Looking forward to it. Infinite War Destroyers do so much chip!
10:00 That chip damage alone, ouch! 3 meters for 25% unavoidable chip damage.
Justin: "Secret characters are broken"
Me: "Even Roll?"
I'll believe it when I see it.
but in a different way...
Roll is not too bad in this game since she actually deals damage in comparison to Roll in MVC2, MVC2 toned down a lot of the MVC1 characters with only a few exceptions. Because of DUO roll is perfectly fine by playing the run away and grab game since she is so small and lot of supers and combos cannot be performed on her.
Oh my that shield into air jump into attack over the helpless was nice 6:27
Lmao thought u were playing warmachine.. and your first win, I thought it was a sarcastic yes!!
6:26 is such a pro move!!!!
That ultra Instint meme is gonna get old LMAO
6:25 Oh the gem of the night, right there.
That intro was funny as hell!🤣🤣🤣🔥
I am a Fightcade player and I recognize a good player, JWonggg you are looking for combos, those who play with a double war machine only wait for the mistake of the player, they are mousers. I congratulate you
The way that went down in the intro was like the jujitsu kisen fight after the school event . Justin got the boogie woogie attack on him 😫😭😭😭
Oh snap the escape to victory with fist of the north star quote.....hype
I am loving the old school content like this, keep em comin
This is probably the guy Justin shit on with that broken ass Akuma the other day 🤣
@JustinWong … that “Ultra Instinct” intro 🤯🔥💀
love the stream highlights. Whish there was longer highlights to accompany the shorter one.
And tourneys are always hype, especially when you do the commentary after the fact.
6:29 LMAO
Omae wa mou shindeiru
It missed the Nani???? From war machine.
I also liked the Dragon Ball Super music.
The random windows noises crack me up every time
The editing is absolutely hilarious
Try playing as Ryu, Iron Man and War Machine in MvC2.
Bruh.... That intro though........
Your edit guy/girl is as legendary as you 😂
0:03 and 2:57 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... xD
Now I wish to see double Hulk (original and orange), double Venom (original and red), double Morrigan and double Chun-Li battles someday.
i do strider and morrigan against this same fighter. morrigan's small frame and air control have an edge so i use her to build meter for strider. not good enough to win a first to 5 but still get wins
i also get better mileage against gwm with venom's MK because while that broken air thing wm does is unblockable, you can mash out with MK and venom and slip out with morrigan
wolverine in some ways is not the best character against gwm because a lot of people resort to gwm because of a beast wolverine's infinites so a lot of gwm players are too savvy for wolverine
this seems like karma from that 2nd impact akuma Justin
Yep he made you take that dirt nap.
Ohh wow 6:20 just amazing
Michelle heart will be a good assist for this opponent
Nice win at 6:30
You could have beat that guy easy with different characters but you stayed with stryder n wolverine. Mad respect to you 🙏
I'd love to see some of J-Wong's Feng! Whether it be an online Tekken 5 tournament or some Tekken 7 ranked
6:28 I love you Justin! Jejeje mvc one is My favorite. You are a crack!
6:25 Was one of the coldest things I've seen in MVC 1
All dem colossi flying around
Nobody:
Not a single soul:
War Machine: *GERONIMO!*
Amazing content Justin!! Thanks for sharing
Strider Hiryu being the ninja he is, gliding through the air to avoid that cannon💪💪💪
But I just finished seeing him violate people with akuma now we are War machine already
what music is it at 2:58 ?
Wolverine has low health to being with. That's why it does so much.
Same with Strider Hiryu.
I don't think the health of regular characters in Marvel 1 is different between each other, I'm pretty sure only Red Venom and Onslaught have differing health points.
@@LordRaptor There are health differences with the characters in this game, definitely noticable with Zangief and the regular Hulk. I use to own this game back in the good old dreamcast era, and played it a lot back in the arcades too. I use to hang out in the same arcade spot Justin Wong use to hang out at over a decade ago.
@@shinsmoke There's not a single source that supports this and you can easily tell by playing it that there's no difference between Wolverine or Hulk's health because they take the same amount of damage (I've just tested it right now), I've been playing this game for almost 20 years and I'm pretty much familiar with every playable character in the arcades, the ONLY character that takes more damage is Red Venom, period.
Maybe Onslaught has a slightly different system but I'm not super familiar with Onslaught, this stamina system only became universal in MvC2.
@@LordRaptor Have you ever tried infinite combos in this game? Well, I have, and I noticed damage differences when it's done to different characters, especially Gambit's infinite. Do your favorite combo against every character on full health, and you'll see a damage difference. Played this game since it was released back in the arcades. I know what I am talking about, stop trying to prove me wrong!
Lmaooooooooo yo that ending had me crying
cable, ironman, war machine. my team when i played mvc2 arcade lol
Captain Commando is good against them. Captain Sword cut all missiles
Back in 2001: 😳WE KNOW, Justin!!😳
I never unlocked War Machine on MVC 2. Is War Machhine OP in it too?
kinda surprised that you didn't use shadow lady and chun li
Damn they did my boy Wolvy dirty in that game, Strider was straight carrying that set.
Damn dude at 0:07 was just tryna wash his ass , he didn’t need to be zoomed in on like that 🤣🤣