I agree. P-125 sounds brighter and alive, while P-45 sounds more mellow and pleasant. It's a matter of taste and it's not really fair to say that P-125 is more realistic. OK, the sound was sampled from one of the best pianos, but it's of course nowhere near the original. I don't really play rock'n'roll and things like that so I don't mind more mellow sound and I went for P-45. Here I'm playing P-45, it's unprocessed clear signal: ruclips.net/video/ncfLB25yZV4/видео.html
Hi. Have you guys tried both in real life? The sound in this video is different. In real life the p125 sound brighter too rich in tone. But doesn't make the p45 sound boring it is still rich.
I was also trying hard deciding which to go with between 45 and 125, until I went down to a local shop and played them myself. And 125 sounds so so so much better than 45. It's hard to hear the difference from the vedio in which the sound is compressed. Just some tip for people like me who is having hardtime picking from the two.
Mickey Vidakovich it’s really not, the way they recorded the samples is different and it’s supposed to be better so there is no way that they sound the same also I recommend you go to a store and hear it for your self because The sound is compressed so all pianos are gonna sound almost the same so you have to compare in person and for me I believe the guy who is doing the review because I can’t go out right now because of lock down
@@MMD88 The p 125 has the CFIIIs sound chip which is Yamaha's updated recording technology. The p 45 is an entry level piano for beginners to intermediates players.
@abigail mak good choice! I’ve had both models and the P-125 is definitely a step up in sound quality. You have to hear them in person (instead of a RUclips video). P-45 sounds good. P-125 sounds great.
To those people asking for why is the p125 considered to have a better sound: It has another type of piano sampled, and such samples are a lot brighter. The p45 on the other hand has gloomier softer samples than the p125, which today goes very well with contemporary music; since people usually don’t play at pubs anymore lmao. As an attemp of musician I can tell you that you learn to appreciate brighter sounds with time, they’re easier to differentiate between each other and provide a lot more information to the player on their volume and speed. On the other hand gloomier sounds are easier to compliment by other instruments, and that’s why they show up so much on modern music.
I did not compare the two models, but yesterday had the opportunity to play the P125 piano. It was "love at first sight". Great keyboard feel and sounds. On my wish list....
I went to compare at a music shop, found that the sound itself isn't obvious. Besides, the advice they gave to me as a beginner is that you have lots of sound options in P125 so you can play with it. If you are only playing the piano, they told me that simple P45 is good enough. I decided on P45. New better ones will appear on the market by the time I outgrow p45.
As a fellow beginner, either way u decide, u will upgrade down the line. The p45 is an amazing beginner rig. I learned on a basic casio, which is good enough for me starting. I scored a Baldwin upright for free. Been playing on it. I am in the market for a nice electric piano, the 125 is always mentioned in conversation…. Having said this, I would recommend the 125 if u can afford.
Very good and informative review. Thanks. I kinda preferred the P45 on piano sound - glad it's not just me. Btw, speaking as an audio engineer, the difference between 6 and 7 watts output power, in relation to volume or deptth of sound heard, is so negligible to be almost non-existent (perceived volume increases logarithmically not linearly). The efficiency of the speakers used will dominate any difference in sound level. In general, I need to see a doubling of compared output powers to start to get me interested.
Speaking from the perspective of having owned both, the P-125 is obviously superior due to one major aspect that was omitted in this review: aftertouch sensitivity. For those that are unaware of what I speak of, it has to do with how hard you press the keys and the perceived loudness of the sound that is generated. That is, if you press the key lightly, a softer, quieter sound is generated and if you hit the key harder, it is louder. This feature is completely absent on the P-45 and was the sole reason that I upgraded to the 125. For some people this is not a big deal. For me, as a serious piano student that is studying in the classical realm, this is EXTREMELY important (really should be important on general principle). Many of the piece that I play are heavy in dynamic range in require this sort of sensitivity. It is also worthy to not that the P-45 is a bit of an older model compared to the 125. Just my two cents to add to the conversation.
Thanks Michael. Most people that come to our showroom agree with you that P-125 is superior that's for sure. But I must be clear for the benefit of anyone reading this that the P-45 does have a degree of touch sensitivity, that's to say if you play lightly the sound is quieter and it's louder when you play hard. For the money it's very good and we've had many students start off using it and have done just fine. But generally speaking yes the P-125 is a much better piano.
ePianos.co.uk Maybe I had something configured wrong. It is quite the possibility. If that is the case then the P-125 definitely responds better than the 45. And I'm soooooo not knocking the P-45 as a great instrument to learn on. It's the way I started out and its gotten me this far. Interesting footnote is that in order to get the P-125 recently, I sold my P-45 to another younger student and his family since it fit with their immediate needs and it satisfied all the requirements that our instructor (yes, we share the same one) set forth. If you are looking for a super-affordable piano with graded hammer, the P-45 is a great candidate!
Awsome!🤩 I was so close to bye a P45 for my son, but your video made me change my mind to p125. Not that much difference in price, but so much newer, and better. Thanks! Greetings from Oslo Norway
I have both P-45 and P-125. I decided to buy the P-125 just because of the SPLIT keyboard feature and more advanced sound (actually speakers are louder and cleaner). Formally for the beginners (as i am myself =)) the P-45 is a perfect instrument. The most important thing - the KEYS - are practically the same. A very realistic feeling of playing the real piano!!! Here is no difference in keys action. So if you want to start playing buy P-45, you will save a lot of money having the same playing opportunities. The P-125 just brings a bit more fun. But you pay more money though.
Studio Daranov did you experience any faulty keys or keys that rattled? I’ve heard that’s a problem with these models but seem to be one of the few options available in Canada 😥
Hmmm.. Sounds like pianist recommend p125 compared to p45. But why p45 sounds more matte and better for me? P125 sounds so digital... Can any other pianist give recommendation to me?
Yes. I sampled all pianos in this price bracket today and walked away with the Roland FP-30. The key action is simply in another league from the Yamaha P125 ( and also surprisingly the Korg D1). Very happy with my purchase.
@@kshproductions7996 Yet the keybed is the same so still prone to dead keys, etc, as stated by some of the reviewers on say Amazon, of the P-45?! Sorry, but who wants to be another guinea pig and spend $600+ only to have noisy keys 2 - 6 months into it? Is this obsession with weighted keys really worth it if many of us are ending up with boards that have sticky keys, keys that go clank, etc?
As a beginner in 2014, I purchased the P35 (P45 predecessor) and it was just perfect for learning with headphones. I have recorded with the P35 from the headphone jack to a DAW. Sound is tinny but it can be done (you'd discover a couple of recording on my channel). The sound in this old P35 is bad but it's great with phones. I give credit to Yamaha for keeping it affordable for me as I acquired the rudiments of piano. Now I get to look at upgradiing.
For some reason, the P-125 for me sounds, more alive, sure, but it also seems much harsher in tone. For some reason I like the more mellow tone of the P-45. After playing on a baby grand for 14 years, I prefer the P-45 for some odd reason.
Checked it out locally, the video does not give it justice haha. The P-125 has more depth and power compared to the P-45. Overall a massive difference in quality
Great to know! I have a old Yamaha P-80, no internal speakers. The key action is fantastic, and it sounds great through headphones, but plug it into a amp or even monitor speakers it sounds cheap and tinny. I'm looking for something to play that sounds good stand alone, and has decent action. Hopefully this P-125 will do the trick. Thanks for the info, I will check it out! PS...Best Keyboard I owned was an Ensoniq ESQ-1, 61 Key Synth, that I played through a Roland JC-120 (Old models had Stereo Inputs in the rear)...The Piano patch was killer, and though that JC-120 blew everyone away. Sorry I ever gave them up....
i get the same feeling listening to this through headphones. That's the big problem with just listening via youtube :D would love a comparision in real life.
I am agreed. I try both in the shop. In my opinion P125 sounds “metalic” and digital. I tried some of the more expensive models and I think P45 beats them all. Great piano. Natural soft sound. Highly recommend.
I was at Costco yesterday to try out a P-45 I'd seen the day before. It was on sale for $450 with stand and bench. I liked the feel / key action as it felt better than I had expected it to. However, soon into my session, I discovered that middle C was MUCH louder than any of the other keys. I tried turning the unit off, and back on, but there was no change. Could this key be messed up already? It felt okay. The sale began on Oct 30 and this was Nov 2, so I hardly think the keys were banged on too hard in that short of time.
When you were talking about the speakers, one thing you didn't mention is that the P-45 speakers are down facing and the P-125 speakers are up facing. That makes a pretty big difference in the perceived sound.
I don't get why it would matter that the P45 does not have onboard recording function (4:00). Can you not simply plug a USB cable to your computer or even your phone and record the MIDI output?
after i bought my P-125 and saw a picture of the P-45, i thought i paid too much for essentially the same piano. but this video showed me i got so much more with my P-125 despite the fact that the pianos look almost identical.
@ 1.45 mins, I am getting to understand some details of our how the sound from an original Piano was recorded and taken into a Digital Piano. Good one.
One thing that isn’t mentioned in this review though is the keys on these two pianos have a completely different look and feel. The P125 has plasticky keys which are quite grippy. The P45 keys feel more like an acoustic pianos wooden keys and allows you to slide more easily from the black keys to the white keys. This is of course down to personal preference, but for me after trying both I bought the P45 because of this. If you’re thinking of buying either of these pianos I would definitely recommend trying them both out before purchasing.
This is a good point. The P125 has a matte finish on the black keys which is does allow you to slide your fingers more easily while playing quick passages. The P45 has basic plastic key tops which aren't terrible by any stretch but do become a bit clammy when you're concentrating and fingers are getting sweaty! The actual key mechanisms are the same on both models.
You just TOTALLY ignored what John Walker stated and, with no clarification whatsoever, completely contradicted him. Is this how you build a trusting and loyal customer base? Must be some new-fangled sales technique. Interesting.
lol, which one should I believe? John Walker or ePianos.co.uk? The two comments contradict each other. Which piano feels more like acoustic piano's wooden keys?
Well, more important than the finish of the keys, I'd say, is the key action. And better yet, the longevity of same. Seems to me just about all the weighted keyboards from the major manufactures (under $1,000) are prone to having issues with the keys, either upon delivery, or worse, 2 months into it, or worse, 2 years into it. If this is true, that really is a bummer, and seems like an argument for purchasing a higher end model, or avoiding weighted keys altogether. Unfortunately, this latter option seems to dictate having a 76 key board, as I find most 88 keyboards are weighted.
Through video, the P125 may sound less realistic and weirder but when you actually play and listen to the two in person, the P125 sounds way better. Trust me.
Interesting, in this particular demo the P45 actually sounds better than the P125. The P125 sounds like it's in a tunnel, a terriblele sound. The P45 sounds much more forward which to me, sounds better.
Hi Chris, congratulations on the video. I have a Yamaha CP-33. I love this piano. But for gigs it's heavy and big. I intend to buy a Yamaha P-121, as it is lighter, more compact and with newer technology. What is your opinion? Do you think I'll feel a difference on stage? Mainly in terms of the weight of the keys and the sound. Tks!
Hi Andre. I actually used a Yamaha CP-33 for years in a function band. I remember it's great piano sample and the little mixer on top was so useful to tweak for different venues/crowd size. I also remember how horrible it way to cart around! How strange it was that the other band members seemingly dissapear when they know you're about to ask them for a lift! I reckon you'll find the little P121 perfect for how lightweight and compact it is, however, I think you'll also find it doesn't have the richness in tone that the CP33 had. The weighted key on P121 feels a bit lower-grade to me. It's not bad by any stretch, but I think the CP33 keys had a more premium feel to them. Try looking at the Yamaha P-515, or CP88 for a more up-to-date stage piano. Granted, they're a little heavier than P-121 but they'll be more what you're used to spec-wise. Here's our long-play of the Yamaha P-515: ruclips.net/video/75CvlyVEkpg/видео.html I hope that helps. Chris
Very good explaination, stress relieved in buying piano, I have spent many hours on comparing piano's, P-125 suits perfect for me, Thank you so much for such a good explaination.
I think either of these models would fit my need for gigging with virtual piano software. The best thing is that they can both be used as midi controllers.
Creo que la razon por la cual en los comentarios les gusta mas el P45 es que tiene un sonido mas meloso, por el contrario el P125 tiene un sonido mas brillante, todo esto con referencia a sus altavoces integrados
JMW L Polyphony is the number of sounds played together, not the keys! When you press the pedal, releasing the keys doesn't stop the sond, Well , Imagine pressing the pedal and playing all 52 white keys.(Glissando) 52 maximum polyphony is needed for that! 64 polyphony is totally enough for advanced classical pieces, but.. If you want to use a lot of sound effects, such as accompianment, styles, preset drums, and especially dual layers(piano + strings) and... You're gonna need at least 128 polyphony for that! (P-45 doesn't have most of them, so it doesn't matter...)
The sound we're hearing -- is it recorded through an external recorder or are we hearing the sound from the internal speakers? Also, how would you say the sound quality of the P-125 piano sounds compare to other high end models? iow, when you pay multiple times more for a DP, are you actually generally getting a better sound quality, or is it more just all the extra bells and whistles you're paying for?
Hi, you should compare sound directly by cable to Recorder. Your recorder is closer p125 then p45 so the sound witch I'm hearing is misrepresented. I think that only for your ear the sound sounds much more reallistic.
Hey! We've had a couple of comments relating to sound recording in our videos. We're going to work on recording audio directly rather than externally for future videos. Thanks very much - Isaac
The actual stereo sound quality of the piano should be an important part of the comparison.. That's why I don't understand why it's actually being recorded from the camera mono -microphone instead of going 'stereo' through an interface...
How does the Yamaha P125 compare with Kawai ES110?? AND...How much would the full bundle of P125 cost?? Keyboard, solid stand, seat, attached music stand...and maybe 3 pedal attachment.. Thanks for any info:)
Hello i am a beginner and i am also thinking about buying a better keyboard.. i watched many of your reviews (great vids btw :D) and i thought i will end up buying the p125 but now i found a yamah ydp162 (used) for 600 euros while the p125(with stand and pedals) would cost me around 700 euros. I think that the piano has a better sound quality and also looks nicer but on the other hand the p125 is more technically (i could connect my ipad and youse the smart pianist app). So now my question is what you would recommend me ? ydp162 or p125 ?
As much as I want to like the p125 b/c of the increased polyphony, better sampling, better speakers, more watts.... the p45 just sounds more pleasant... p125 hurts my ears... maybe frequency equalization on the p45. On every video I watch p45 sounds better.
I thought you were going to play somebody to love at the start there and i got excited. Im looking to upgrade my p45 to a p125 and this was immensely helpful thank you
@@bruceerogan3662 from just over a bit of a year of use they are beginning to get a bit work and some are clicking more than usual. It won't stop me from getting another yamaha though. It sounds great through headphones to the point where I'll use headphones as speakers.
Thanks Chris for this great comparision and pointing out the details that are hard to find on the internet. One more thing I'd like to ask... is Android smartphone or simple laptop good addition to this yamaha for apps and excercises or does it need iPhone? Cause I dont have iPhone and don't wanna invest again. Maybe Roland or Korg has better functionality with Android and Yamaha is iPhone only equipment? Please let me know.
Para quem já está acostumado com um piano acústico desde criança, optaria pelo P45. Pra mim não importa o recurso que o P125 tem, para mim o que importa é o timbre que precisaria se assemelhar ao som do piano acústico. Ouvindo o som do P45, ele separa o sons do grave e do agudo, o que para mim é muito bom, mas o P125 mistura tanto que quase não da pra saber aonde estão os graves. O timbre do P125 soa mais agudo puchando mais um som de teclas nonas, se mistura demais e se torna enjuativo de ouvir, ouvindo uma música não quero ouvir mais nenhuma.. Fico com o P45.
I desperately need a Yamaha that matches or outperforms Roland 90x and it's WIRELESS MIDI. Any idea if Yamaha will launch such.... ( the gorgeously perfect 515 doesn't completely give me what i need) Or shud I buy the 90x and call it a day.
P125 vs P255 please I’m planning on buying a P255 soon and I’m very curious about the feel of it’s keys and weight. Would anyone have any insight on this? How does the weight of the keys compare to a grand piano or an upright. Is it the best action for its price range? Thank youuuuu
Yeh Kun p255 is 100 percent bette beacse its gut better speakwrs better ke mechanism and higher polyphony number 256( and its made in japan ) the key on p125 is gha ( graded hamer standard) but in p255 hase gh ( graded hamer) gh is better than gha and p255 hase better key quality too
I personally don't care about speakers or polyphony since that can all be resolved through using a DAW (digital audio workstation) I got the chance to test out the p125 side by side to the p255and yes I liked the feel of the p255 better but the difference was very very small. I'm just wondering if the difference in money (which is quite a lot) is it worth it? JUST for the key mechanism
Yeh Kun i was in your situation one month ago and i was curious too that of gonna p255 gona replace soon , and i bought p 255 beacese the feel of the keys was much more better than p 255 , u dont gonna regret , but if u wanna even better key mechanism kawaii es8 its even much more better than p255
I like Yamaha feel better than Roland and kawaii PERSONALLY I just don’t know if I should buy P255 now or wait for p255’s upgrade/replacement if there even is one
@@ayrtoninchejanampa6874 That's too bad because I see in the reviews on Amazon, for example, that the P-45 has some issues with the keys. Seems to me most under $1,000, and definitely most under say $700 have people frustrated with dead keys, etc, after a few months, or say 2 years. My theory is that unweighted means less issues (since less moving parts), but there do not seem to be any 88 key boards that are unweighted. I am considering the Yamaha Piaggero NP32 with 76 keys for now.
HI. Can you hook this up to a MacBook Pro through the USB and have the sounds from a program such as MainStage play through the speaker? Or other software instruments?
I prefer the P-45 sound as well, sounds more acoustical to me. This video should be titled why the P125 is better than the P45 because this salesman is obviously biased in this "review".
im " test- driveng " the p-125. but im NOT a techie so I don't know how to manage the b ells & whistles. b besides, all im in gterested in is straight pian o sound : no gigging, recording, etc. should I still get the 125 ?
I've been playing for a little more than a year now and finally want to replace my 61 key keyboard with a digital piano. (There's an acoustic piano at my university but I don't always wanna go there to practice). Also I don't want to gig, just record some songs for me and friends to share. But still a digital piano is an investment vor many years so idk which one I should get. Should I invest in the 125 or is the 45 enough
Yes for some reason I like the gloomier p-45 it’s darker and richer the way a piano should sound but everyone is different and I respect everyone and their taste
can yall tell me which one you'd rather have? including the price tags. because the p125 sounds better imo and has some nice benefits but it is pretty pricey, so I would like to hear from others what they think.
wow, even the occasional bum note sounded good :-). I need to understand bluetooth capability , I think it needs an adaptor off ebay etc? and also how to setup an ipad stand to attach to the piano or the optional yamaha stand. Has to look good in the lounge you see
The most important thing you didn't say is the key sensitive，which means when you click the same key with different speed，it can play different sound volume！
I have a new P 71 (the same as the P 45) that I bought through Amazon, and the top octave has almost no sound. My mother has a P 70 that my father and I bought for her years ago, and that piano has a much more noticeable top end. Everything else with the P 71 is fine with me. Frustrating that the speakers can't cover the last octave, because both the P 70 and 71 have the same speakers.
@@ccpeace5036 If you plug in a good set of headphones, those notes pick right up. It tells me that the speakers aren't good enough to carry the sound properly. I remember calling Yamaha, and the guys said, "no one plays those notes anyway." A couple of real musicians. LOL. Bottom line: It's a design flaw.
On a budget here, and wanna choose a budget friendly keyboard. Is it worth it to spend a extra 200 USD just for these features? Or is the p 45 better for its money? Thank you to anyone who can reply!
Personally, I think the P125 is superior. Especially because of the compatibility with the Smart Pianist. You can read more about the P125 here: www.epianos.co.uk/shop/yamaha-p125b-portable-piano-in-black/
Not sure if the Yamaha P-125 is for you? - Watch our 'Reasons NOT to buy a Yamaha P-125' video here: ruclips.net/video/T47ZwmcIueU/видео.html
P45: 2:00
P125: 2:08
P45: 3:03
P125: 3:13
P45: 4:28
P125: 4:20
P45: 6:50
P125: 6:43
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I don't know why but I prefer the sound of P-45 than P-125 so much.
many do p125 does seem vibrant but p45 the keys are more in harmony they flow better my verdict annyyway
Same
I agree. P-125 sounds brighter and alive, while P-45 sounds more mellow and pleasant. It's a matter of taste and it's not really fair to say that P-125 is more realistic. OK, the sound was sampled from one of the best pianos, but it's of course nowhere near the original. I don't really play rock'n'roll and things like that so I don't mind more mellow sound and I went for P-45.
Here I'm playing P-45, it's unprocessed clear signal:
ruclips.net/video/ncfLB25yZV4/видео.html
Hi. Have you guys tried both in real life? The sound in this video is different. In real life the p125 sound brighter too rich in tone. But doesn't make the p45 sound boring it is still rich.
Mee too cuz it much deeper
I was also trying hard deciding which to go with between 45 and 125, until I went down to a local shop and played them myself. And 125 sounds so so so much better than 45. It's hard to hear the difference from the vedio in which the sound is compressed. Just some tip for people like me who is having hardtime picking from the two.
What you're hearing is the speaker output not the piano. The P125 has more speaker. depth Other than that They're identical.
Mickey Vidakovich it’s really not, the way they recorded the samples is different and it’s supposed to be better so there is no way that they sound the same also I recommend you go to a store and hear it for your self because The sound is compressed so all pianos are gonna sound almost the same so you have to compare in person and for me I believe the guy who is doing the review because I can’t go out right now because of lock down
@@MMD88 The p 125 has the CFIIIs sound chip which is Yamaha's updated recording technology. The p 45 is an entry level piano for beginners to intermediates players.
@abigail mak good choice! I’ve had both models and the P-125 is definitely a step up in sound quality. You have to hear them in person (instead of a RUclips video). P-45 sounds good. P-125 sounds great.
I had both p45 and p125, i preferred the sound of p45 which was mellow and sweet. And the feel of touch was the same.
To those people asking for why is the p125 considered to have a better sound:
It has another type of piano sampled, and such samples are a lot brighter. The p45 on the other hand has gloomier softer samples than the p125, which today goes very well with contemporary music; since people usually don’t play at pubs anymore lmao.
As an attemp of musician I can tell you that you learn to appreciate brighter sounds with time, they’re easier to differentiate between each other and provide a lot more information to the player on their volume and speed. On the other hand gloomier sounds are easier to compliment by other instruments, and that’s why they show up so much on modern music.
I did not compare the two models, but yesterday had the opportunity to play the P125 piano. It was "love at first sight". Great keyboard feel and sounds. On my wish list....
Me too love at first sight
P45 is more deepper, natural with fluidity and that's why i want to choose for P-45
I went to compare at a music shop, found that the sound itself isn't obvious. Besides, the advice they gave to me as a beginner is that you have lots of sound options in P125 so you can play with it. If you are only playing the piano, they told me that simple P45 is good enough. I decided on P45. New better ones will appear on the market by the time I outgrow p45.
Are you satisfied with it? Im having a hard time deciding between this two
As a fellow beginner, either way u decide, u will upgrade down the line. The p45 is an amazing beginner rig. I learned on a basic casio, which is good enough for me starting. I scored a Baldwin upright for free. Been playing on it. I am in the market for a nice electric piano, the 125 is always mentioned in conversation….
Having said this, I would recommend the 125 if u can afford.
I find the P45 sounds better overall and much of the features lacking can be made up using a smart phone. Such as recording
Just bought the p125 from you guys! Arriving tomorrow!
Very good and informative review. Thanks. I kinda preferred the P45 on piano sound - glad it's not just me. Btw, speaking as an audio engineer, the difference between 6 and 7 watts output power, in relation to volume or deptth of sound heard, is so negligible to be almost non-existent (perceived volume increases logarithmically not linearly). The efficiency of the speakers used will dominate any difference in sound level. In general, I need to see a doubling of compared output powers to start to get me interested.
unfortunately, very few do this....
Is the glassy sound of the 125 a result of superior tone generation or the additional speakers?
Speaking from the perspective of having owned both, the P-125 is obviously superior due to one major aspect that was omitted in this review: aftertouch sensitivity. For those that are unaware of what I speak of, it has to do with how hard you press the keys and the perceived loudness of the sound that is generated. That is, if you press the key lightly, a softer, quieter sound is generated and if you hit the key harder, it is louder. This feature is completely absent on the P-45 and was the sole reason that I upgraded to the 125. For some people this is not a big deal. For me, as a serious piano student that is studying in the classical realm, this is EXTREMELY important (really should be important on general principle). Many of the piece that I play are heavy in dynamic range in require this sort of sensitivity. It is also worthy to not that the P-45 is a bit of an older model compared to the 125. Just my two cents to add to the conversation.
Thanks Michael. Most people that come to our showroom agree with you that P-125 is superior that's for sure. But I must be clear for the benefit of anyone reading this that the P-45 does have a degree of touch sensitivity, that's to say if you play lightly the sound is quieter and it's louder when you play hard. For the money it's very good and we've had many students start off using it and have done just fine. But generally speaking yes the P-125 is a much better piano.
ePianos.co.uk Maybe I had something configured wrong. It is quite the possibility. If that is the case then the P-125 definitely responds better than the 45. And I'm soooooo not knocking the P-45 as a great instrument to learn on. It's the way I started out and its gotten me this far. Interesting footnote is that in order to get the P-125 recently, I sold my P-45 to another younger student and his family since it fit with their immediate needs and it satisfied all the requirements that our instructor (yes, we share the same one) set forth. If you are looking for a super-affordable piano with graded hammer, the P-45 is a great candidate!
I have the P45 and it does have sensitivity, I can play reasonably soft to loud. Maybe the one you had was set to fixed sensitivity?
@@michaelmurphy987 Hi, you can set the sensitivity on the p-45. It has actually 4 levels of sensitivity : fixed, soft, medium and hard.
The P45 and the P125 have the same quality of key bed, both have exactly the same graded hammer action.
Awsome!🤩 I was so close to bye a P45 for my son, but your video made me change my mind to p125. Not that much difference in price, but so much newer, and better. Thanks! Greetings from Oslo Norway
I have both P-45 and P-125. I decided to buy the P-125 just because of the SPLIT keyboard feature and more advanced sound (actually speakers are louder and cleaner).
Formally for the beginners (as i am myself =)) the P-45 is a perfect instrument. The most important thing - the KEYS - are practically the same. A very realistic feeling of playing the real piano!!! Here is no difference in keys action. So if you want to start playing buy P-45, you will save a lot of money having the same playing opportunities.
The P-125 just brings a bit more fun. But you pay more money though.
So do you think that the quality of the sound is better on the p125?
Studio Daranov did you experience any faulty keys or keys that rattled? I’ve heard that’s a problem with these models but seem to be one of the few options available in Canada 😥
liar.. you dont own either ..
I played the P45 @ the GC & it sucked big time. You can definitely tell the difference so I paid the extra money for the P125.
Hmmm.. Sounds like pianist recommend p125 compared to p45. But why p45 sounds more matte and better for me? P125 sounds so digital... Can any other pianist give recommendation to me?
Yes. I sampled all pianos in this price bracket today and walked away with the Roland FP-30. The key action is simply in another league from the Yamaha P125 ( and also surprisingly the Korg D1). Very happy with my purchase.
I have the same impression, P45 sounds better but i guess only on video
Are you kidding, I played both and the Roland sounds so dull compared to the P125,, @@njdenney69
Nick Denney but can you easily hook it up to your iPad like the Yamaha p series pianos?
@@kshproductions7996 Yet the keybed is the same so still prone to dead keys, etc, as stated by some of the reviewers on say Amazon, of the P-45?! Sorry, but who wants to be another guinea pig and spend $600+ only to have noisy keys 2 - 6 months into it? Is this obsession with weighted keys really worth it if many of us are ending up with boards that have sticky keys, keys that go clank, etc?
As a beginner in 2014, I purchased the P35 (P45 predecessor) and it was just perfect for learning with headphones. I have recorded with the P35 from the headphone jack to a DAW. Sound is tinny but it can be done (you'd discover a couple of recording on my channel). The sound in this old P35 is bad but it's great with phones. I give credit to Yamaha for keeping it affordable for me as I acquired the rudiments of piano. Now I get to look at upgradiing.
Exactly, now the Yamaha P45 today is in my opinion already old because it came out in 2015 and must be renewed
For some reason, the P-125 for me sounds, more alive, sure, but it also seems much harsher in tone. For some reason I like the more mellow tone of the P-45. After playing on a baby grand for 14 years, I prefer the P-45 for some odd reason.
I agree with you! The P125 sounds "Tinny" to me. Maybe live it will sound better, I will check it out locally when there is one available.
Checked it out locally, the video does not give it justice haha. The P-125 has more depth and power compared to the P-45. Overall a massive difference in quality
Great to know! I have a old Yamaha P-80, no internal speakers. The key action is fantastic, and it sounds great through headphones, but plug it into a amp or even monitor speakers it sounds cheap and tinny. I'm looking for something to play that sounds good stand alone, and has decent action. Hopefully this P-125 will do the trick. Thanks for the info, I will check it out! PS...Best Keyboard I owned was an Ensoniq ESQ-1, 61 Key Synth, that I played through a Roland JC-120 (Old models had Stereo Inputs in the rear)...The Piano patch was killer, and though that JC-120 blew everyone away. Sorry I ever gave them up....
i get the same feeling listening to this through headphones. That's the big problem with just listening via youtube :D would love a comparision in real life.
I know it's pricey, but I want to check out that new P-515. It has everything I want, built in speakers, line outs, MIDI, and Wooden Keys!
Even through the video's harsh sound compression the much higher quality sound of the P125 is noticeable. Thanks, this video was very helpful.
I am confused whether should I bought P45 or P125 until I saw the smart pianist apps you mentioned in this video.Thank you, I have made my decision :)
I tried both today I prefer P45 over 125 is because I play contemporary classic . Sounds more warm .
I am agreed. I try both in the shop. In my opinion P125 sounds “metalic” and digital. I tried some of the more expensive models and I think P45 beats them all. Great piano. Natural soft sound. Highly recommend.
I was at Costco yesterday to try out a P-45 I'd seen the day before. It was on sale for $450 with stand and bench. I liked the feel / key action as it felt better than I had expected it to. However, soon into my session, I discovered that middle C was MUCH louder than any of the other keys. I tried turning the unit off, and back on, but there was no change. Could this key be messed up already? It felt okay. The sale began on Oct 30 and this was Nov 2, so I hardly think the keys were banged on too hard in that short of time.
thats sooo true !! paying more for more sounds but the speakers are a big Nah..
The P45 sucked when playing it.
Why does he keep playing extra embellishments when he plays the more expensive one LOL
Because the P125 has the power to inspire you into doing such things.
@@ePianoscouk This man is more expert than I, but I concur that the P125 felt so good!
haha classic salesman
Definitely for buying the expensive one lol
The better question is why you haven’t released a new video in a year
When you were talking about the speakers, one thing you didn't mention is that the P-45 speakers are down facing and the P-125 speakers are up facing. That makes a pretty big difference in the perceived sound.
I don't get why it would matter that the P45 does not have onboard recording function (4:00). Can you not simply plug a USB cable to your computer or even your phone and record the MIDI output?
after i bought my P-125 and saw a picture of the P-45, i thought i paid too much for essentially the same piano. but this video showed me i got so much more with my P-125 despite the fact that the pianos look almost identical.
Does the p125 have a sustain pedal? How many pedal does it have?
3wVu ou you can use a triple pedal unit on P 125, both P125 and P45 come with a sustain pedal
This video doesn't show the real difference vs in person, the 125 sounds so smooth and alive vs p115 or the p45 or Roland fp30
@ 1.45 mins, I am getting to understand some details of our how the sound from an original Piano was recorded and taken into a Digital Piano. Good one.
Thanks a lot, very informative! I know it help me decide, I hope in return your bless from making and sharing this video.
This helped me a lot deciding which piano to go for. Excellent review. Thank you
which piano did you go for?
If you need splits on separate MIDI channels, half-damper and three pedal support then you need the P-125.
In my earphone, P45 has the better pure sounds for me...
😅😂
That’s because of compression by RUclips. Try it in-person. The P-125 will sound much better
To me, P45 has better sound
P125 have more variations between every sound, so you can choose your favourite. included transponing, reverb and much more
Thanks for the info!!! I have had he p125 in mind for awhile, but still need a couple hundred more bucks, so imma get the 125.
Unless you want to record or you are playing in front of a crowd, p45 sounds fine.
One thing that isn’t mentioned in this review though is the keys on these two pianos have a completely different look and feel. The P125 has plasticky keys which are quite grippy. The P45 keys feel more like an acoustic pianos wooden keys and allows you to slide more easily from the black keys to the white keys. This is of course down to personal preference, but for me after trying both I bought the P45 because of this. If you’re thinking of buying either of these pianos I would definitely recommend trying them both out before purchasing.
This is a good point. The P125 has a matte finish on the black keys which is does allow you to slide your fingers more easily while playing quick passages. The P45 has basic plastic key tops which aren't terrible by any stretch but do become a bit clammy when you're concentrating and fingers are getting sweaty! The actual key mechanisms are the same on both models.
You just TOTALLY ignored what John Walker stated and, with no clarification whatsoever, completely contradicted him. Is this how you build a trusting and loyal customer base? Must be some new-fangled sales technique. Interesting.
This isn’t a comparison review it’s more a sales add for the p-125 over the p-45. That’s why he ignored the comment and just kept going.
lol, which one should I believe? John Walker or ePianos.co.uk? The two comments contradict each other. Which piano feels more like acoustic piano's wooden keys?
Well, more important than the finish of the keys, I'd say, is the key action. And better yet, the longevity of same. Seems to me just about all the weighted keyboards from the major manufactures (under $1,000) are prone to having issues with the keys, either upon delivery, or worse, 2 months into it, or worse, 2 years into it. If this is true, that really is a bummer, and seems like an argument for purchasing a higher end model, or avoiding weighted keys altogether. Unfortunately, this latter option seems to dictate having a 76 key board, as I find most 88 keyboards are weighted.
Through video, the P125 may sound less realistic and weirder but when you actually play and listen to the two in person, the P125 sounds way better. Trust me.
The video microphone settings seem to prefer the P45 sound. But live there's a big difference in the real thing. Its P-125 all the way!
Interesting, in this particular demo the P45 actually sounds better than the P125. The P125 sounds like it's in a tunnel, a terriblele sound. The P45 sounds much more forward which to me, sounds better.
Yes. 125 for sure! This video really sold me.
Hi Chris, congratulations on the video. I have a Yamaha CP-33. I love this piano. But for gigs it's heavy and big.
I intend to buy a Yamaha P-121, as it is lighter, more compact and with newer technology. What is your opinion? Do you think I'll feel a difference on stage? Mainly in terms of the weight of the keys and the sound. Tks!
Hi Andre. I actually used a Yamaha CP-33 for years in a function band. I remember it's great piano sample and the little mixer on top was so useful to tweak for different venues/crowd size. I also remember how horrible it way to cart around! How strange it was that the other band members seemingly dissapear when they know you're about to ask them for a lift!
I reckon you'll find the little P121 perfect for how lightweight and compact it is, however, I think you'll also find it doesn't have the richness in tone that the CP33 had. The weighted key on P121 feels a bit lower-grade to me. It's not bad by any stretch, but I think the CP33 keys had a more premium feel to them. Try looking at the Yamaha P-515, or CP88 for a more up-to-date stage piano. Granted, they're a little heavier than P-121 but they'll be more what you're used to spec-wise.
Here's our long-play of the Yamaha P-515: ruclips.net/video/75CvlyVEkpg/видео.html
I hope that helps.
Chris
Very good explaination, stress relieved in buying piano, I have spent many hours on comparing piano's, P-125 suits perfect for me, Thank you so much for such a good explaination.
It was nice of Michael Gove to take the time out to inform us of these pianos.
Michael Gove! That really hurts my feelings.
Where's the organ sounds?
Play the organ sounds! Duh!
@@ePianoscouk you dont look like Michael Gove :'D Dont mind him
Very informative.thank you very much!
You are making me wish I lived in the UK. Your reviews are very convincing and I would surely buy from you if I lived there
I think either of these models would fit my need for gigging with virtual piano software. The best thing is that they can both be used as midi controllers.
Creo que la razon por la cual en los comentarios les gusta mas el P45 es que tiene un sonido mas meloso, por el contrario el P125 tiene un sonido mas brillante, todo esto con referencia a sus altavoces integrados
"I only have 10 fingers so I can only play 10 notes"
every video so far i think
I can't think of a better way to describe it!
JMW L Polyphony is the number of sounds played together, not the keys!
When you press the pedal, releasing the keys doesn't stop the sond,
Well , Imagine pressing the pedal and playing all 52 white keys.(Glissando)
52 maximum polyphony is needed for that!
64 polyphony is totally enough for advanced classical pieces, but..
If you want to use a lot of sound effects, such as accompianment, styles, preset drums, and especially dual layers(piano + strings) and...
You're gonna need at least 128 polyphony for that!
(P-45 doesn't have most of them, so it doesn't matter...)
@@ePianoscouk you explained it great
Hhhhh
Unless you are born with an extra finger
The sound we're hearing -- is it recorded through an external recorder or are we hearing the sound from the internal speakers?
Also, how would you say the sound quality of the P-125 piano sounds compare to other high end models? iow, when you pay multiple times more for a DP, are you actually generally getting a better sound quality, or is it more just all the extra bells and whistles you're paying for?
I played p45 it has warmer sound but is muddy on bass octaves also played p125 whitch has more quality, first impression can trick you,cheers.
Hi, you should compare sound directly by cable to Recorder. Your recorder is closer p125 then p45 so the sound witch I'm hearing is misrepresented. I think that only for your ear the sound sounds much more reallistic.
Hey! We've had a couple of comments relating to sound recording in our videos. We're going to work on recording audio directly rather than externally for future videos. Thanks very much - Isaac
The actual stereo sound quality of the piano should be an important part of the comparison.. That's why I don't understand why it's actually being recorded from the camera mono -microphone instead of going 'stereo' through an interface...
Thanks for review. It's so useful.
Thanks for this great video! You‘ve explained the most important and interessting things, fun to watch 👍
Many thanks for this video. 125 for sure
How does the Yamaha P125 compare with Kawai ES110?? AND...How much would the full bundle of P125 cost?? Keyboard, solid stand, seat, attached music stand...and maybe 3 pedal attachment.. Thanks for any info:)
Thank you for this very useful video! ;)
Hello
i am a beginner and i am also thinking about buying a better keyboard..
i watched many of your reviews (great vids btw :D) and i thought i will end up buying the p125 but now i found a yamah ydp162 (used) for 600 euros while the p125(with stand and pedals) would cost me around 700 euros. I think that the piano has a better sound quality and also looks nicer but on the other hand the p125 is more technically (i could connect my ipad and youse the smart pianist app).
So now my question is what you would recommend me ? ydp162 or p125 ?
I'll stick with my p120 picked It up for 60$ replaced a couple keys and this thing just sounds incredible especially since it's been out nearly 20yrs
As much as I want to like the p125 b/c of the increased polyphony, better sampling, better speakers, more watts.... the p45 just sounds more pleasant... p125 hurts my ears... maybe frequency equalization on the p45. On every video I watch p45 sounds better.
Wonderful comparison and wonderful guy giving a fantastic comparison! and great keyboardist! - Ken in Hawaii
The P-125 has more detail but seems effects treated, like added compression maybe?
I thought you were going to play somebody to love at the start there and i got excited. Im looking to upgrade my p45 to a p125 and this was immensely helpful thank you
What are your personal views of using a P45 as your personal piano? I am looking to acquire a P125 as my first Piano.
Thanks
Jack Fahey have you had issues with the keys?
@@bruceerogan3662 from just over a bit of a year of use they are beginning to get a bit work and some are clicking more than usual. It won't stop me from getting another yamaha though. It sounds great through headphones to the point where I'll use headphones as speakers.
@@jackfahey7459 thank you for the quick response.
@@bruceerogan3662 you're welcome
Thanks Chris for this great comparision and pointing out the details that are hard to find on the internet. One more thing I'd like to ask... is Android smartphone or simple laptop good addition to this yamaha for apps and excercises or does it need iPhone? Cause I dont have iPhone and don't wanna invest again. Maybe Roland or Korg has better functionality with Android and Yamaha is iPhone only equipment? Please let me know.
I suspect the equaliser on p125 has been set to table top hence cut down on lower frequencies from bottom firing speakers.
Para quem já está acostumado com um piano acústico desde criança, optaria pelo P45. Pra mim não importa o recurso que o P125 tem, para mim o que importa é o timbre que precisaria se assemelhar ao som do piano acústico. Ouvindo o som do P45, ele separa o sons do grave e do agudo, o que para mim é muito bom, mas o P125 mistura tanto que quase não da pra saber aonde estão os graves. O timbre do P125 soa mais agudo puchando mais um som de teclas nonas, se mistura demais e se torna enjuativo de ouvir, ouvindo uma música não quero ouvir mais nenhuma.. Fico com o P45.
Which one is better for classical songs just at home? YDP 144 vs P125
Thank you so much~~~ Good detail review~
I desperately need a
Yamaha that matches or outperforms Roland 90x and it's WIRELESS MIDI.
Any idea if Yamaha will launch such....
( the gorgeously perfect 515 doesn't completely give me what i need)
Or shud I buy the 90x and call it a day.
Hello Sir which app I should download for p125 which I have. I just a leaning how to play piano. I have ipad
Could you please compare P115 vs P125
P115 is no longer manufactured, it was replaced by the P125.
@@ePianoscouk Still it would be good in order to see if it's worth upgrading or not. And also to see how much they changed
P125 vs P255 please
I’m planning on buying a P255 soon and I’m very curious about the feel of it’s keys and weight. Would anyone have any insight on this? How does the weight of the keys compare to a grand piano or an upright. Is it the best action for its price range? Thank youuuuu
Watch this ruclips.net/video/I9vcKWAmpNY/видео.html
Yeh Kun p255 is 100 percent bette beacse its gut better speakwrs better ke mechanism and higher polyphony number 256( and its made in japan ) the key on p125 is gha ( graded hamer standard) but in p255 hase gh ( graded hamer) gh is better than gha and p255 hase better key quality too
I personally don't care about speakers or polyphony since that can all be resolved through using a DAW (digital audio workstation)
I got the chance to test out the p125 side by side to the p255and yes I liked the feel of the p255 better but the difference was very very small. I'm just wondering if the difference in money (which is quite a lot) is it worth it? JUST for the key mechanism
Yeh Kun i was in your situation one month ago and i was curious too that of gonna p255 gona replace soon , and i bought p 255 beacese the feel of the keys was much more better than p 255 , u dont gonna regret , but if u wanna even better key mechanism kawaii es8 its even much more better than p255
I like Yamaha feel better than Roland and kawaii PERSONALLY
I just don’t know if I should buy P255 now or wait for p255’s upgrade/replacement if there even is one
Would you recommend the yamaha P125 or the Korg sp280? I’m torn on the decision!
Defo Yamaha P125
What about the key weighting? Are they both weighted and what difference is there?
Hello, is the action the exact same on both pianos ? Cuz i find it a bit too light on my current p-45. Thanks in advance :)
Yes, both have the same GHS action
@@ayrtoninchejanampa6874 Thank you :)
@@ayrtoninchejanampa6874 That's too bad because I see in the reviews on Amazon, for example, that the P-45 has some issues with the keys. Seems to me most under $1,000, and definitely most under say $700 have people frustrated with dead keys, etc, after a few months, or say 2 years. My theory is that unweighted means less issues (since less moving parts), but there do not seem to be any 88 key boards that are unweighted. I am considering the Yamaha Piaggero NP32 with 76 keys for now.
HI. Can you hook this up to a MacBook Pro through the USB and have the sounds from a program such as MainStage play through the speaker? Or other software instruments?
Yea u could use it as a midi keyboard
rob26b I couldn’t get it to work with USB-C with the Apple adapter
I prefer the P-45 sound as well, sounds more acoustical to me. This video should be titled why the P125 is better than the P45 because this salesman is obviously biased in this "review".
No it’s just a better keyboard
im " test- driveng " the p-125. but im NOT a techie so I don't know how to manage the b ells & whistles. b besides, all im in gterested in is straight pian o sound : no gigging, recording, etc.
should I still get the 125 ?
I bought my mom Casio PX 770
I've been playing for a little more than a year now and finally want to replace my 61 key keyboard with a digital piano. (There's an acoustic piano at my university but I don't always wanna go there to practice). Also I don't want to gig, just record some songs for me and friends to share. But still a digital piano is an investment vor many years so idk which one I should get. Should I invest in the 125 or is the 45 enough
45 would be more than enough if you're looking to save a little money.
@@ALBINO1D thanks for the answer! I got my eye set on a different model now tho 🙈
@@pandadncr4825 oh which one? Out of curiosity
@@ALBINO1D the Yamaha Arius YDP-S54
@@pandadncr4825 haha I went with the Arius YDP-164!
For me p 45 is warmer and I prefer tbat sound
How do these stack up against the P71?
What is the little gizmo that holds the phone? Is there one that holds a tablet?
Yes for some reason I like the gloomier p-45 it’s darker and richer the way a piano should sound but everyone is different and I respect everyone and their taste
can yall tell me which one you'd rather have? including the price tags. because the p125 sounds better imo and has some nice benefits but it is pretty pricey, so I would like to hear from others what they think.
Do they have the same keyboard action?
So you cant connect the p45 to an external speaker?
wow, even the occasional bum note sounded good :-). I need to understand bluetooth capability , I think it needs an adaptor off ebay etc? and also how to setup an ipad stand to attach to the piano or the optional yamaha stand. Has to look good in the lounge you see
The most important thing you didn't say is the key sensitive，which means when you click the same key with different speed，it can play different sound volume！
nicely spoken.
Do you think the p255 will get replaced soon?
Can I get a list of the songs that you have played? I love them!
Most of the time it's just improvisation.
I died when he said you have to be careful how you say pianist
Same XD
P-45 I'm buying
I have a new P 71 (the same as the P 45) that I bought through Amazon, and the top octave has almost no sound.
My mother has a P 70 that my father and I bought for her years ago, and that piano has a much more noticeable top end.
Everything else with the P 71 is fine with me. Frustrating that the speakers can't cover the last octave, because both the P 70 and 71 have the same speakers.
This problem happens to my P71 as well!! I thought just mine has this issue... The notes on the top are much less volume comparing with other keys.
@@ccpeace5036 If you plug in a good set of headphones, those notes pick right up. It tells me that the speakers aren't good enough to carry the sound properly. I remember calling Yamaha, and the guys said, "no one plays those notes anyway." A couple of real musicians. LOL.
Bottom line: It's a design flaw.
It seems to be a defect in the recording of the piano sample on the P45, once I tried it and the last higher keys did not sound much.
P125 sound so electronic compared to p45 which for me sounds realistic.
How many song midi can be recorded in smart pianist application?
Pls answer. I am considering to buy p121. I need unlimited midi recording feature.
Too bad..smart pianist doesn't available in android. Does p45 compatible with flowkey or simply piano app?
SmartPianist is available in Android: uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/pianos/apps/smart_pianist/index.html
@@ePianoscouk not in indonesia
For sure P-45 the sound is more real and warm
which ones that can be dual tone? Is that can be 2 layers and can set the each volume
of the tones?
On a budget here, and wanna choose a budget friendly keyboard. Is it worth it to spend a extra 200 USD just for these features? Or is the p 45 better for its money? Thank you to anyone who can reply!
Personally, I think the P125 is superior. Especially because of the compatibility with the Smart Pianist. You can read more about the P125 here: www.epianos.co.uk/shop/yamaha-p125b-portable-piano-in-black/