Saturnalia
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2016
- Io, Saturnalia!
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Imagine being a poor Roman mother rushing about Walmartius looking for gifts for everyone thinking "I swear, Saturnalia comes about earlier each year!"
Lol walmartius
There was not a single part of that comment that was not delightful.
Well, the calendar is drifting...
Wooooooooosh
@@MasterArkannor No, simply an in-channel joke
The Romans literally had Opposite Day.
Richard Stockton that's amazing
More like "Ops"-osite Day, eh?
I'm Squidward, I'm Squidward, I'm Squidward Squidward Squidward
More like opposite week
Freedom Day or Freedom Week.
A satue filled with olive oil. Ive never heard of anything more roman than this. It sounds like a meme.
A statue filled with olive oil, and a toga on.
Io Saturnalia
Would you like an Etruscan Clay Boar?
People 70% water
Romans 70% olive oil
The most Roman thing ever is building walls around walls.
The Romans sure knew how to fuckin party.
Holdin McGroin they didn't have beer they had nuts
They had wine.
For You
Noaboatx1
of coursh
A 5 day orgy!
*"Your mistresses cost you nothing: you enjoy them at my expense."*
I wonder if he was genuinely offended or if he was just taking the piss.
i like to think that it rhymed in latin so it was percieved as clever and funny
What a Chadius Maximus
The original Latin was:
Quam mihi mittebas Saturni tempore lancem, / Misisti dominae, Sextiliane, tuae; / Et quam donabas dictis a Marte Kalendis, / De nostra prasina est synthesis empta toga. / Iam constare tibi gratis coepere puellae: / Muneribus futuis, Sextiliane, meis.
i can't figure out if there was a special pun here or anything, but it seems to me that this is an ancient version of "Robbing Peter to pay Paul." the stuff that Sextilianus used to spend on Martial now goes to his mistress instead.
Bro, we used to be like *this* , but you had to put hoes before bros.
Hey, do you think the real reason the Senators assassinated Julius Caesar was because he forgot to give Brutus a gift? Maybe he accidentally bought a cheaper one.
that must be it.
Most definitely
Bet he only gave him a 10 sestercii amazon gift card
jmiquelmb lol
jmiquelmb, you mustn't forget how dangerous those early Amazon gift-cards were...
2:48 My boy, History Civilis.
Haha... This comment is hilarious without dout
oi
Io Saturnalia
Dieieieieieie
@@aidanbowie5391 io*
Sounds like an introverts nightmare.
Lazy Masquerade Oh yeah, definitely
"Everyone you ever met will come to your door demanding a gift and a personalised note. If you forget a single person, they'll hate you forever..."
WELL FUCK.
Lazy Masquerade Love your videos :D I Didn't know you were into history?
Rome society as a whole was kind of an introverts nightmare. Being called an introvert was basically an insult on itself
Lazy Masquerade Oops, guess Im spending every Saturnalius in the countryside so I dont have to partake.
any holiday where you wear weird hats, party all night, gamble with nuts, exchange gifts and poems, shout jibberish at each other, and everyone drops their airs and visits with each other, sounds like a good time.
the gifting does sound stressful though. European Christmas is already too stressful for me.
@@leysontEuropean Christmas? What’s so different about Christmas in Europe than America?
It was a festival to feed into your baser inhibitions, basically to sin, I wouldn’t be surprised if doing Saturnalia there were purges, mass orgies, public displays of drunken and high behavior.
That martial guy was such a Troll. I bet he would have loved the internet
He would have loved to tell the world about these Togas an gifts :D
Pour some Mountain Dew for our homie Martial. He's trolling with the angels now
Most of his poems are directed towards friends. They're not trolling so much as ribbing as friends often do among themselves.
Christ Craig! Remember that time you came in and tried to slap everyone with a wet blanket? You're no fun... A thumbs up for your picture though.
He would be a Twitter god.
"Your mistress cost you nothing, you enjoy them at my expense." Quality stuff right here
THE SHADE, THE SHADE!
0:50 That rebel in the crowd
damn hipsters
Where?
Probably that fucking Charisianus. What a luxurious double dumb-ass.
i was thinking that 2.
+Jason Haven 2nd row from the front, 5th square from the left.
Guess he's too good for a leather cap... ;~p
"Muh boi, Cicero"
*One year or so earlier*
"Muh boi, Caesar"
Which is it, Civilis? Huh? :/
Antony?
@@frenchguitarguy1091 he doesn't like Antony or Cato, but loves him some Caeser, Cicero, and Labenus.
@@jesseberg3271 Well it makes since,Caeser,Cicero and Labenus where competent and skillful in the face of defeat,Cato and Antony where incompetent and quite in the present and not the future
@@DeathBone4656 I'll grant you that, but Historia Civilis accepts that Cato acted out of conviction, whereas he doesn't give Antony the same courtesy.
If you assume Antony was driven by his belife in the Populare cause, his actions come off looking a lot more like someone seeking revenge for Sulla's tyranny than the random actions of an out of control drunkard. But HC just accepts what was written about Antony by his enemies, seemingly without a second thought.
If you pay attention to his commentaries, you can clearly see he is an Optimate at heart, or at least anti-Caesar.
my boy cicero
yas
Marco Li
both go way back
ave caesar fam
My g
On the first day of Saturnalia my true love gave to me...
Nothing.
Antun Jakov Katancevic
Mood = killed
RIP
Yay nuts!
I can't wait for the nuts!
I laughed till my sides hurt when I heard, "going full Festivus with an airing of grievances."
5:25 Seinfeld "I'VE GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH YOU PEOPLE!"
If anyone did do that, tough, I would've loved to be there to see it!
“Your mistresses cost you nothing, you enjoy them at my expense”
That’s just plain funny.
One thing I came across in my Latin class was that perhaps the Romans didn't bet actual nuts in their betting dice games during the Saturnalia, a point that came up as we were translating Martial's epigrams actually, which is a nice coincidence to how this video ended.
Nux did mean walnut, yes, but it was also used as a metaphors for "thing of little/no value", being used that way by Martial; the theory my teacher mentioned was that perhaps some people used some of those crappy gifts they kept around to give to random visitors in their bets; there is slim evidence for this, since it comes almost entirely from Martial using the metaphor of "nuts" as something of little value to refer to the presents during Saturnalia, but well, it is a possibility and it kinda makes more sense; then again lots of things about Saturnalia make little sense so who knows xD
That would be funny as fuck if true XD
It’s incredible to see how much this holiday survives in Christmas, the gift giving spirit, the salutation to be given to everyone, the consumption of the whole month of December in the name of holiday, and the Scrooge’s that just hate them.
Every Christian holiday is quire literally a stolen pagan holiday.
@@The_ZeroLinenope there is no proof of that at all just a bunch of lies made up by people who believe conspiracy theories and can’t be bothered to do one bit of research
I wonder if the Romans have a tale about saturnalia's grinch
@@kristianharapan5741 nope
Where I live, pretty much everything else but the presents is preserved in another festival, known as carnival :D
This is literally just thanksgiving, Christmas, and Halloween all wrapped together
Watching all of these videos, but especially this one, I’m always amazed at the fact that these people were no different than us. Easy to imagine your drunk uncle at the Saturnalia party instead of the Christmas party
it's funny when you see the paterns between old roman festivals and how people today celebrate christmas or new year
Christmas is directly from Saturnalia. The now Christian Roman elites wanted to still keep some of their traditions and they needed to get the still pagan masses to join them in this new Christianity thing. What better way than to take an already existing pagan holiday and replace it with Jesus's supposed birthday.
what actually happened is that people started to do some of the stuff they did on saturnalia on the day of christmas after saturnalia ended
i still don't understand people that say christmas came from saturnalia if saturnalia is not even on the same day,
and besides its not really that similar, its just an average festivity, the only thing i found really similar here is the exchange of gifts
Flash forward to around 1000 AD, and the Norse festival of Jul (Yule/Yuletide) now had to be incorporated as well, since Harald Bluetooth was christening all of Denmark. Good thing having festivities around the winter solstice when the days become longer is a pretty universal idea.
I don't know for certain if there are more influences to Christmas, but Jul and Saturnalia are definitely up there.
No it was a separate holiday but there was a overlap with how some celebrated it.
No, Because Christmas was not a holiday until the Romans started to practice Christianity. The elites wanted to convert the masses and absorbing holidays and traditions is a good way of doing it. It's not a new thing. The Arabs already had a tradition of fasting and holding festivities before Muhammed and Islam came around. In Latin America, Christianity absorbed some attributes of Native religions.
Does this only happen in the city of Rome or the entire empire?
Rome was the centerpiece of the festival, but other places might have hosted smaller versions
Imagine something like the Oktoberfest, the one in Munich is the real deal but in other places in Germany and the world it gets celebrated as well in a smaller scale.
I would conjecture that Abu Zooz is correct but I have no source
pyropulse don’t be rude to someone who only wants to know more about the world.
No its also probably known as Christmas to you.
I went to a college that had a day much like the first day of Saturnalia. Students and professors all came together for a festival on the main quad and got super drunk. Classes were cancelled, tests foregone. It was awesome. Though I have heard the new president of the college is trying to get rid of the holiday altogether because he considers it immoral and a stain on the college's reputation.
Who was the sacrifice?
Bummer, the new president sounds like a major killjoy😒
@@earth2lana Hoping it's the new president😁
I'd prefer bong rips with my thesis adviser to drinking with my professor. Personal taste.
@Atlas, what college was it?
The goddess of ops was special.
Special ops.
Go to your room!
Don't
Pyotyr Young .
Wow
Boooooo!
*is editing video*
*watches on RUclips*
*sees this video*
ah.... fuck it
What did the Mexican boy get for christmas? My bike even better timing XD
"There is nothing new in the World except the history you don't know." - Harry S Truman
Rightly said.
Io saturnalia! I give you the gift of reading my comment
Io Saturnalia! That is exactly what I had prepared for you! Enjoy this comment!
Cyrus Cheng io saturnalla
Io is the ancestor of lol
Every year you give us the gift of us not having to read your comment but now you give us the gift of having to read your comment!? I am insulted by this gift! Hmph!
Bilbo swaggins Yeah!!! Fuck that guy! And to think I actually gave him a brand new Toga last year!
I love the spirit of this festival, for a short time there was no distinction between elite, commoner and slave. All were equal under Saturn and it was marked with food, wine, games and all sorts of fun. Seems like a great festival.
And on the same day Nero(54--68 C.E.) in 64 C.E. married a slave who recently became a freedman. Yikes!!!
Seems like a more enjoyable time than christmas, quite frankly.
Back when "christmas" was cool. No enough dwarves fights now.
Well, it just became Elf Knife Fights when it was modernized for western culture. We have a few every Christmas. Same dif tho.
Romans had the best holidays.
I see what you did there.
@@Rabbit-uc5kg What did he do?
@@skril733 It's a reference to the Audrey Hepburn movie Roman Holiday. Good watch.
Holydays you mean. Salvè Tepio 7777777
The vatican still does it involves under age kids ...oh how harmless
Sound like a beautiful holiday
Io Saturnalia!
Can we please bring back Saturnalia? Sounds way cooler than Christmas
With gladiator fights?
saldownik Only if we let women and dwarves fight too! #equality
Sure. Why don't we restore the Republic of Rome while we're at it?
Let's have public wrestling matches instead.
Let's follow the Roman Pantheon again!
Is it just me who gets a shock of intense happiness every time he sees a new Historia Civilis video?
I knew Christmas and it's gift giving were derived from Saturnalia, but I didn't expect Christmas cards and those custom fancy candles shops that pop up in malls around Christmas to have their origins in it too!
Saturnalia did not end Constinine just changed it to Christmas so the pagans would be more comfortable.
@@genesickler7717lies
@@genesickler7717nope nope that’s a conspiracy theory not actual history
I celebrate Saturnalia every single year and I would like to wish you, albeit very belatedly, IO SATURNALIA
gotta say though, the love of nuts during the late end of December continues to today and that fact makes me happy.
It's almost harvesting season
I will drink from your skull!
Less talking, more raiding!
But my skull is leaky and has holes near the bottom!
M’lord
Your money or your life!
Happy Saturnalia, y'all!
IO SATURNALIA
“...it was also customary after the sun went down to host parties to continue the festivities.”
Sounds like one big ol’ ancient Roman 7 day bender...
I love your videos, but sometimes I feel like it's the music that ultimately pushes me to press that like button.
Yah the presentation is top notch!
This is fucking lit. Pagans know how to party.
today's holy days seem boring compared to this
holidays like Oktoberfest are still quite cool
Ave Caesar Augustus!
But virtuous
Hassenboy Who cares?
"Holy"
We need to bring this back
Jesus, Martial went ham on it with
*"Your mistresses cost you nothing: you enjoy them at my expense."*
>a statue filled with olive oil
That has to be the most roman thing in history
Saturn Has spoken! Saturn Has come!
Bring the wine! Bring the bread! Bring the ropes!
For we shall all feast as a one as a free man!
great to hear about the small cultural quirks of the Roman republic. I love the big battles but sometimes we get lost in the political sphere. More videos like this! :)
Io, Saturnalia!
I love this channel so much! Thank you for the knowledge!
Your videos are amazing. Thank you for your time and effort.
Going full festivus for the rest of us! Congrats on your channel getting some of the recognition you deserve. Love your channel.
Merry 12th night!
I just did a video talking about the evolution of this holiday...of course, it wasn't as awesome as yours.
Always glad to see new work from you!
This channel is one if the best History channels on RUclips if not the best. Keep it up, your videos are so interesting!
Thanks for posting this. Really appreciate your videos!
You have some of the best historical content on RUclips. Keep it up.
I'm so glad your channel is getting bigger. tis one of my favorites.
this became my comfort channel. it's my 3rd time rewatching all the content. love all of'em thank you
I love your channel, happy saturnalia
Put Saturn back in Saturnalia!
Martial was the original mockingbird, an archaic rapper.
that anime girl face makes my wee wee go oui oui
Nice Christmas special, can't wait to see what you do for next year!
Love your video's as always, learning a lot! Thank you!!
It's that time of the year again.
This made me happy, looks very fun and can imagine everyone having a good time :)
I remember watching this video years ago on old account and just randomly thought of it. Definitely puts me in a holiday mood!
we out here partyrocking on this saturnalia. my 5 homies and me, with our cone hats, crouching in an alley shootin dice, sipping heavy, and shouting at fools. we found a crazy bird from parthia or somethin, called a mina bird. it squawks out human words sometimes so we made it king for the day and do whatever it says. after dice and drinks; we're going to stumble into the fighting pits and watch a zebra fight a regular horse in a cage match. maybe swing by a certain temple and try and siphon some of that sacred olive oil out of a certain god's statue. u know just get turnt.
I have 2 things to say. One is bad, and other is good.
1. This video is like christmas present, I loooooove your work.
2. My toaster broke down ( yes, again, to those who are following it's story) so this video lifted my mood up. Thanks and good christmas to you! merry christmas!
And this was very educational so, really , great moves, Historia Civilis, keep it up
benukysz rip toaster
SuperAwesome10101 I am still hoping that I can bring him back from the dead. But thanks, means a lot. I guess I am just dealing with grief.....
be careful toasters have a dangerous electricity voltage that could instantly kill you...
+benukysz be careful toasters have a dangerous electricity voltage that could instantly kill you...
I like the poem-writing tradition! I'll try that this year with my gifts.
This sounds so wholesome.
I loved those quotes at the end. Do more!
Gives new meaning to black OPS 2
Io Saturnalia from 2022 everyone!
Io Saturnalia!
Amazing video, thanks and marry christmas!
Maybe next year you can make a video about the Roman holiday of "Dies Natalis Solis Invicti", the birthday of the Roman sungod, which takes place on the 25th December (winter solstice in Julian Calendar).
IO SATVRNALIA for Brenda Song 35 (2023)
I didn't know Christmas was also based on Saturnalia. Knowing this, my favorite holiday now really feels like a European holiday because both Saturnalia and Yule are the ancestors of christmas. So christmas is were Southern European culture meets Northern European culture... Love it.
how tf Yule is ancestor of Christmas, the scandinavians only had contact to Christian Europe by the 8th century and Christmas is celebrated since at least 354
and some people might have passed one or other aspect of Saturnalia to the day of Christmas (like the exchange of gifts) to replace saturnalia after it ended, but it doesn't really mean saturnalia is "ancestor" to Christmas, its not even on the same day.
Rasputin Russia's greatest love machine Well at first christmas was introduced to turn Saturnalia in a Christian holiday. When Germanic lands were christianized they would take some elements of the Yule feast. OR do you think christmas trees and the lights decoration already existed at the beginning of Christianity?
Rasputin Russia's greatest love machine en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule
if there is one or other thing they used to celebrate in yule and now celebrate on christmas because the yule was ended, it doesn't mean Christmas was based on yule at all, as i already said, Christmas was commemorated since at least 354, who were the scandinavians at this time period? we have no idea
Rasputin Russia's greatest love machine And as this video made clear, christmas was celebrated since 354 because of Saturnalia. And later on it was greatly influenced by Germanic paganism.
Welp I guess its time to rewatch every single one of your videos several times over for a week till I get bored.
These videos are fascinating but always at some point my mind begins to wander and I lose the thread and have to back-up. Getting old (44), I guess. Kudos.
It's nice to learn about ancient cultures. Thanks
IO, SATURNALIA!
So interesting! Love your channel.
Thank you for this channel. I definitely say that it is one of the best in youtube. For sure!
Christians: Jesus is the reason for the season!
Romans: *IO SATURNALIA!*
@Alex F Personally, I just celebrate Yule with prayers and offerings to Odin Yulefather and the ancestral mothers of my line and ignore the whole Jesus nonsense.
@@HoundofOdin Odin is a Marvel character
@@ExInvaderRay Odin has been worshiped as a God far longer than Marvel will even exist.
@@HoundofOdin Cope; Christ is King, larpagan
@@ExInvaderRay Oh Christians and their silly insistence that their God is the only God. Might as well say there is only one star, or one blade of grass. You're just angry that your religion is dying and mine is blossoming again in the garden of your ruin. Deus does not volt, keyboard crusader.
1:49 that priest vetoed that pig to death!
Tribune Aquila, back at it again!
you are a genius, i love your videos!
Thank you for posting. So interesting.
Happy Saturnalia everyone!
IO
Io Saturnalia!
Hey, thanks for doing this video! I’m doing a Latin project on this festival so it was nice to see it all condensed. One little thing though, Io is pronounced yo since that’s how they did their i’s in the old days. Thanks either way.
I never knew about this, thanks for the cool video, this channel is great.
Can you do a video on Rites of Bona Dea please? Maybe Consulalia as well?
Sounds like Christmas mixed with Mardi Gras
I love your videos!!! Very informative 🤓
i love the meaning of it all its better than Christmas because it temporary suspended the class system and i dont imagine romans in this way ,it adds humanity to them and makes it that much more sad that there gone from history
Make Saturnalia Great Again
Edit: Hello 2018, Io Saturnalia!
IO SATURNALIA
IO SATVRNALIA
Io Saturnalia!
u still have, its called Christmas
@@juliosunga3530 Christmas is lamer
Spec Ops, the grain.
"There are rows, men like us must harvest."
One of your best videos. Also Saturnalia sounds amazing.
holy crap I love this channel so much.