Hartman literally took 7 points off the board and gave the ball to the bills with that Touchback. Lets not act like the chiefs didnt give the bills multiple chances.
Thank You. Not to mention all the fumbles the Bills lost that 5 Chiefs miraculously did not recover. If they want to act like this game was lost because of a missed FG, they're outside their mind.
and it's so blatant too, he's not just the best he's by far easily the best of his era. Even the guy who's more Mahomes than Mahomes isn't better than the original
Mahomes is great, but he’s also got a HOF coach, TE, and had a potential HOF WR on top of their top 5 D. NFL wins are about more than just a QB regardless of team.
@@pistolpete7422 hey 🤡 this is his first year with a top 5 defense and every great QB has had a Hof coach, te, or wr. Brady, Manning, Favre, etc. I don't see Tua winning rings with Tyreek. It's not what you have it's how you use it. All year long the chiefs were disrespected and counted out. You don't make 6 consecutive AFC Championship appearances for no reason.
Disrespect? Mahomes is the gold standard when comparing any other QB. People literally say "that looked a little mahomie." I think you KC fans just exist in this delusional fantasy world where you perceive everything as disrespect.
How can you say Allen isn’t talked about as equivalent when this whole segment is about how great Allen was in a loss and not how great Mahomes was in a win
Stop with the excuses for Allen. He is spoken of like an equal to Mahomes. Except the one guy can’t get it done in the playoffs and keeps losing to the other.
There was also a missed field goal and a dumb play call to go for it on 4th down. Josh Allen carried that team on his back and his team dropped the ball.
@@jordanflores5687 No1 is gna talk about the lucky fumble recovery that would’ve ended the game for the bills? Or the Hardman fumble at the 1 yard line that would’ve put them up 10?! And even if they tied. Pat has 2 mins left with 2 timeouts to kick a field goal. You don’t think he does that?? This is a chiefs team that’s having its worst season and they still can’t beat them. Chiefs are gna get a number 1 WR next year it’s a wrap for buffalo. Stop the BS man
That’s what I can’t stand. People will look at the rushing TDs and be awed but he’s literally taking TDs at the goal line away from his own running backs
Not trying to argue, but I’m pretty sure most of his rushing tds are more than just goal line. He’s not scoring all these tush push tds. Obviously he has some, but most he’s actually running to get them.
@@zuggyzuggy Which is why his accuracy as a passer worsened throughout the Season. He wants to run. And this lack of passer discipline is why the actual running game is not as good. Pretty bad when RB1 is the QB, not the actual RB.
@@MSgt_0699 that’s fine, but with all due respect, the part about passing accuracy doesn’t matter to me because that’s not what they were talking about and it clearly didn’t affect how they ended the regular season. Also everyone can have their opinions about Josh Allen, but it doesn’t affect his overall accuracy in the playoffs.
Josh Allen going for the big play instead of the open check down twice is what cost them. Dan saying Pat and Josh are equals is mind boggling to me. Pat having 2 super bowls and 6 straight AFC championships appearance, while Allen has 0 Super Bowl and 1 AFC championship appearance is the most lopsided “rivalry” in todays era.
Ah, another idiot that thinks QB's aren't similar purely because of team accolades. It's like you think it's an individual sport. Do you not see the 21 other players on the field?
He made one bad play smh. It wasn’t his fault that they lost, but Mahomes is obviously better. If he had played like he did week one, it’s absolutely his fault, but he didn’t and the defense sucked. No he’s not better than Mahomes, and I agree that orlovsky is going over the top, but it’s not his fault
"Patrick Mahomes guys made plays on the field" Macole Hardman says hi. I'm so tired of the media excuses for Allen. He was good for most of the game but almost had a fumble become a turnover and made some bad decisions when it mattered.
Nobody is trying to hear all that, and I love Dan Orlovsky. But let’s be real, if Lamar finished a game with less than 200 yards passing, no matter who dropped the ball during the game, if the ravens lose, they blame Lamar. So it’s funny that when the Bills lose, the excuse is blame everybody except Josh Allen.
When they win, Allen is the only player on the Bills apparently and no one else gets credit, even when they bail Josh out. ANd when they lose it's suddenly 'a team game' and everyone else gets blamed.
@@legitdragon6202 That's because Allen wants to be a one-man show, who hogs the ball. Fans see a super hero in a guy who can often throw an accurate pass (among the growing inaccuracy), but is determined to run more than his actual RB. But when they lose, it's because "Allen has no help."
I’m so glad that he finally brought up the Mecole fumble at the end. That drive is POINTLESS if Mecole doesn’t fumble, so I don’t feel bad for missed field goal.
The bills had 3 separate fumbles to their way, a missed INT then the chiefs had players dropping like flies on both sides of the ball and Buffalo STILL lost!
I like Josh Allen, but he did miss a lot of open guys and didn't take what the defense was giving him last night. That was not a perfect game by Josh Allen, sorry.
But Manning was a solid passer and not a one-man show. Allen is an undisciplined one-man show who wants to be an RB, which is why his accuracy has suffered.
Dan keeps talking how Allen and the Bills “deserved” to win last night. No they “deserved” to lose after that terrible fake punt, but Hardman fumbled. Then “deserved” to lose again with Allen’s fumble, but bills recovered. Bass’ miss just made it right
Watching Dan Orlovsky's argument boil down to "Josh Allen tried really hard, so we should just give him the win. It's not fair that he lost after combining for a massive 260 total yards."
WHEN MAHOMES RECEIVER WERE DROPPING PASSES ALLLLLLL SEASON! No one made excuses for KC and gave us grace! Stop MAKING EXCUSES FOR ALLEN! The bills lost because ALLEN didn’t make the PLAYS THAT MATTERED THE MOST!!
Dan's argument only holds water if this was just one game. But when Allen just can't seem to level up time after time when it counts, then RC's point is valid. Mahomes is Mahomes cause he wins DESPITE his team when it matters.
Ryan is right. Mahomes is so great people are rooting against the Chiefs because they're literally tired of them winning. But y'all keep talking about his counterparts like they're his equal
Josh Allen is one of the only qbs who can be owened by another of his contemporaries and somehow still be on the same level in peoples eyes year after year. He played great, Mahomes played better thats all there is to it yet again
Difference: Mahomes is a QB first, who uses his weapons before running. Allen is a RB first, who considers the run even before he receives the snap. Explains his worsening inaccuracy all season and why the Bills actual running game comes second to Allen's one-man show. Hopefully, he learns some discipline as a passer during the offseason.
they always gotta stick a white qb in there. They tried it with burrow too and will try it again year after year with new excuses yet they still doubt lamar and say he was ridiculous for asking for that money but if Justin Herbert asked for it would be 31 teams after him. Nfl not used to blacks being the qb franchise face of the league players.
When are people going to just accept the fact Josh isn’t Pat? It’s ok. Josh is a great qb. Pat is just the best. The difference between the two is one guy tried to hit a homerun ball instead of a check down which would have made the field goal attempt much closer and the other guy was dealing to all parts of the field with his arm
Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson watching the media talk about Josh Allen being the only one who can match up to Mahomes when he is 0-3 against him in the playoffs.
Media: "Chiefs are regressing and the league is catching up with them" Mahomes: "Hold my rings" Josh Allen: "Hold my half decade worth of divisional championship swag."
I wish somebody love me as much as the media and Dan Orlovsky loves Josh Allen. Now Dan Orlovsky speaking completely from his feelings this is sports. You don’t deserve anything you lost no matter how you play doesn’t mean you deserve anything because you lost you deserve it when you win it
The funniest thing about all the Josh Allen comps is that they always compare him to a player with hella regular season accolades. When Josh Allen has nothing but two pro bowls to his name
@@sprawlz6466 Thats a opinion not a fact lol now we blaming the team? Bills were the favourites to win this matchup by alot lets not act like they were some trash poverty team that just so happened to make it this far, stop the excuses Mahomes is just better then Allen plain simple
@@sirhoopalot1125 well that’s dumb, but what do you suppose he should’ve done? Motivated the defense more? Also I don’t really remember too much criticism of Mahomes that game, cause everyone knows how hard it is to beat Brady
Stop giving him excuses. Josh didn't get let down. He let down his team on multiple plays too. Josh was good. He was unbelievable bad on the last 5-6 plays.
I have a lot respect for Josh Allen he a great quarterback but Patrick is different he done where Josh hasn’t yet achieve winning afc championships and winning super bowls Josh has won their divisions against jets patriots dolphins but overall Josh is great but Patrick is the best
Lamar was putting up all the stats and still could not win the big game. However, nobody was making excuses for him. Its not that Josh Allen is at fault, it's just that people need to start taking accountability. It's easy to blame a driver who wasn't paying attention and crashed into your car. It's harder to say "you know what if i just payed a little more attention an was more aware I could have avoided all of this". Be an adult and learn to take accountability is all Ryan is saying and I agree.
What stats has Lamar put up leading up to the Texans game in the playoffs? Also he was average in the regular season as well, All I heard were excuses that he had no receivers, but when diggs dropped an easy catch and Sheffield dropped another amazing throw and another throw before that yesterday where is the same energy?
@@theone7778 I hear what your saying, I disagree with one main point. Nobody made Lamars inability to make a deep run in the playoffs a legitimate excuse. The reason nobody picked the baltamore Ravens to win the SuperBowl was the idea that Lamar could not get over the big hump. And to be fair he was bashed quite a bit, I'm not sure where your getting the notion that ppl articulated excuses for Lamar especially in the Post-season. Nobody denied he was amazing in the regular season (he won an MVP prior lol) but it would be strange to have expected/Favored Lamar to win a Superbowl given how Patrick and Josh Allen was playing. In addition, nobody is denying bad things out of Josh Allens control happend. But I'm sorry, you can't tell me Brady was the reason that the Patriorts were as dominant as they were, and tell me Josh Allen is avoidant of blame from the loss. It's either the QB is or isn't the most important position can't have it both ways. And if the Qb is the most important position than stay consistent. They either Win or loose because of that position. Josh played great no doubt, However like everyone else accountability is of the utmost importance. Even in his great play he did miss a couple of key throws that could have been the difference. Josh Allen did not have a perfect performance, therefore admitting that there could have been things he could have done better is not a blasfamous statement. In actually all it's allowing is accountability. The fact of the matter is no matter how anyone spins it he's 0-2 vs Mahomes and 0-1 against Burrow in which he was at home. Thats what's going to be remembered not all these bad play calls or dropped passes. So, I sincerely hope Josh looks in the mirror and doesn't blame anyone else but looks inward, that's a true champion. Not someone who points the finger or blames others. And I have no doubt that he will do just that and one day win it all.
I'm a Bills fan and I think Ryan Clark has a point. We talk about Mahomes like that because he always comes up huge in the biggest games. Until Josh does it in the playoffs he's just not a great as Mahomes. I love Josh don't get me wrong. Football is a team game but Josh is gonna get the blame because he is the face of the franchise.
THANK YOU, RC!!!! Salute to you my dude for just keeping it real!!!! The Josh Allen D riding is DISGRACEFUL!!! Dan O and Rex are EMBARRASSING THEMSELVES...... 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
The D riding they do for JA is wild. Last time i checked stats dont matter the WINS and LOSES count no one cares if you throw a million touchdowns but still lost. Media gives this dude a pass for his stats but his playoff records says otherwise
RC is so on point with this take!!! They stay making excuses for Josh, there’s only 2 columns that matter in sports Wins & Losses everything else is semantics, Mahomes did what was necessary to WIN and Josh missed Diggs wide open in the flat to make a closer fg and on the left side which would’ve made the fg not only closer but he would’ve pushed it right it would’ve been good. So Josh went for the home run n threw a 🦆 into the dirt, he LOSS!
Dan just conveniently ignores that Josh almost threw a pick there and fumbled the ball that luckily didn't get recovered by the Chiefs when the game is getting tight. He missed key passes on that last drive because he was looking at the homeruns. Why is it not his fault?
@@jx6040 right, because all receivers do that every year. You sound idiotic. They got him and kept him for a reason. Dropped passes are apart of the game, just ask Patrick Mahomes.
Josh Allen played to a level and “ didn’t get what he “deserved” because Mahomes played to a better level every time. And so did burrow. The only elite qb Allen has beat in those 21 playoff victories is Lamar once. Stop with the excuses- he’s great, not great enough.
Notice how none of the glazing by Dan is for Allen as a QB, it's as a runner. Buffalo played not to lose last night, that's not how you win. So many passes being the line, running to use up the clock. When it was time to make a play to take over the game, they didn't make those plays.
Can we please stop having Dan Orlovsky talk about what makes a good starting NFL quarterback like he knows. The man was a backup his whole career and he was a bad backup at that. He can critique college QBs because he did make it to the NFL. But unlike Shannon Sharp Orlovsky has no credentials or place to criticize starting quarterbacks
and what credentials do you have to criticize him? saying someone has to be some star or even a starter in the pros to talk/analyze sports is beyond dumb
@@calvin9951 didn’t say he couldn’t talk it. But he should stop trying to tell players what they need to do to be great. Or that lesser players are as good as some of the greatest of all time
Allen is going through what Manning went through. Hes got one arch nemesis in the same conference and he just cant get past him. Maybe that changes eventually but hes never gonna hear the end of it until he wins one
This didn’t age well for Dan O. He’s on tape here saying Patrick Mahomes is not better than Josh Allen. Eehhh. And I bet when Brady beat Mahomes in that AFC championship, when Mahomes was stellar, Dan O wasn’t on tv saying Mahomes didn’t deserve to lose. What a statement! You know what else didn’t happen? The NFL didn’t change the overtime rules because Mahomes “didn’t deserve to lose.” What was different about Mahomes never getting to touch the ball in overtime from Allen? The difference, we didn’t have sportscasters whining about it for Mahomes.
If the chiefs picked up Josh Allen’s FUMBLE this isn’t a conversation. Plus if they make the kick these “analysts” act like Pat doesn’t go win the game just like every single time they play the bills in the playoffs
Nah they'd still be glazing him, just like people were still glazing Jalen Hurts for 'outplaying' Mahomes in the Super Bowl - even though he literally fumbled a TD away to the Chiefs
The Allen excuses are ridiculous... Ryan is right, nobody made excuses for Malone, Ewing, Barkley, etc etc... they talked about Jordan! TV talking heads rather die on the excuses hill, rather than the greatness of Mahomes in this moment!
RC's point is goin over a lot of y'all heads! He's not blaming the loss on Josh Allen. He's wondering why the media always wants to talk about his "greatness" after a loss.... we don't do that with "othet" QB's...
@11:19 Orlovsky isn't making any sense. There are elite players who never even made a dent in the playoffs. How many times was JJ Watt DPOY? He got 12 sacks in his retirement season when the team wasn't competitive at all and after needing to restart his heart earlier in the season. JJ deserved some post-season success. There are a lot of players that don't get what they "deserved." It's a team sport. And it's subjective. The guy you think deserves an eventual win could be on someone else's "he's alright, but he's not great" list. That's why the winner of the game is the team with the most points. And not the team that deserves it the most. If that were the case then this Super Bowl would be Detroit v. Baltimore. We don't even need to play the conference championship games. Niners and Chiefs can go home.
Mahomes guys made plays because he played downfield all game. You can’t expect your guys to make plays when you don’t call their number until the 4th freakin quarter
Josh lets himself down. He doesn’t do enough. In the 13 second game Butker missed an extra point and a FG. Mahomes still won the game because Mahomes was better!
How tf is Josh Allen being blamed, he had 2 rushing TDs and a passing TD. The placekicker missed , Diggs missed the catch and people out here blaming Allen.
Orlovsky got the nerve to compare Josh Allen to the Cowboys by saying “you either love him, or you love to hate him..” 😒 who hates Josh Allen? If anything, he’s comparable to the Cowboys in the fact that y’all glaze him for accomplishing absolutely NOTHING. And I’m of course a Cowboys fan, but I gotta keep it real 💯 man threw 39 passes & had 189 yards 😂🤦🏽♂️
Thank you RYAN CLARK. I watch the "Raw Room Podcast" and I've already noted a million times how the MEDIA SUBTLY HATES ON MAHOMES. The Raw Room host Darren Bates commented that the "Media has never called Mahomes a "winner"." Wow! That's deep! I'm mad ABOUT THE CON'T LIES OF BRADY still being the best. Every study that has compared Brady to Mahomes based on their AGE or the # of GAMES PLAYED puts Mahomes FAR, FAR, in the lead. For example, Mahomes has now won more post season games than Brady by AGE 30. Mahomes has 13 games by AGE 28, Brady has just 12 games by AGE 30. SI did an exhaustive comparative analysis of Brady:Mahomes after playing 75 games (1st 5 Yrs in NFL as STARTER); Mahomes beats Brady's STATS in very category but 1. Across the board, in NFL History, Mahomes ranks in TOP 3, Brady does not.
Hartman literally took 7 points off the board and gave the ball to the bills with that Touchback. Lets not act like the chiefs didnt give the bills multiple chances.
💯 the bills were givin a couple of gifts too.
@@justsaying5633that fumble omg
We also didn't just fall on Josh Allen's fumble. Should have won by 10, 13, or 17 but instead let them have a chance.
also the Josh Allen fumble near the end that the Chiefs player tried to scoop instead of fall onto... Dan Orlovsky was pathetic in this segment
Thank You. Not to mention all the fumbles the Bills lost that 5 Chiefs miraculously did not recover. If they want to act like this game was lost because of a missed FG, they're outside their mind.
Ryan Clark just MASTERCLASSED Dan Orlovsky on live television 😂😂😂 the Josh Allen glaze has got to stop
He definitely did Dan was bouta cry trying to defend Allen 😂
The disrespect to Patrick is unbelievable. People are jealous of his greatness.
and it's so blatant too, he's not just the best he's by far easily the best of his era. Even the guy who's more Mahomes than Mahomes isn't better than the original
Mahomes is great, but he’s also got a HOF coach, TE, and had a potential HOF WR on top of their top 5 D.
NFL wins are about more than just a QB regardless of team.
@@pistolpete7422 hey 🤡 this is his first year with a top 5 defense and every great QB has had a Hof coach, te, or wr. Brady, Manning, Favre, etc. I don't see Tua winning rings with Tyreek. It's not what you have it's how you use it. All year long the chiefs were disrespected and counted out. You don't make 6 consecutive AFC Championship appearances for no reason.
Disrespect? Mahomes is the gold standard when comparing any other QB. People literally say "that looked a little mahomie." I think you KC fans just exist in this delusional fantasy world where you perceive everything as disrespect.
he also did it without a top 5 defense and a HOF WR and is doing it again so is there anything else you need to critique?@@pistolpete7422
Thank you Ryan. The Josh Allen glazing by the media is sickening
How can you say Allen isn’t talked about as equivalent when this whole segment is about how great Allen was in a loss and not how great Mahomes was in a win
lol that’s the point RC trying to make
Stop with the excuses for Allen. He is spoken of like an equal to Mahomes. Except the one guy can’t get it done in the playoffs and keeps losing to the other.
Yeah isn't funny how people want to cry about receiver drops for Allen when Pat's been dealing with it all year 😂
Lamar is closer to Mahomes than Allen. Idk why he isn’t talked about more than Allen. Lamar is literally about to have 2 MVPs
There was also a missed field goal and a dumb play call to go for it on 4th down. Josh Allen carried that team on his back and his team dropped the ball.
He’s White Duh lol the BLk QBs are taking over Goff or Purdy will Lose to Mahomes or Lamar them dudes just different. AFCC is bout to be Lit
Folks act like coaching doesn't matter. Having Andy Reid as HC helps Mahomes. I think if Allen had an A level coach, he'd be a better QB.
Ryan Clark is keeping that same energy that they have with every other QB. I’m here for it. DAN only constancy is being bias to QBs he likes.
See Dan’s defense of Carson Wentz to prove how biased he is.
Facts he’s a quarterback apologist , idk how people ain’t been seeing this for years
Ryan Clark speaking nothing but facts, the Josh Allen glaze is sickening
Wrong allen didn't kick the ball wide right
Krispy crème glaze fresh out the oven
@@jordanflores5687 No1 is gna talk about the lucky fumble recovery that would’ve ended the game for the bills? Or the Hardman fumble at the 1 yard line that would’ve put them up 10?! And even if they tied. Pat has 2 mins left with 2 timeouts to kick a field goal. You don’t think he does that?? This is a chiefs team that’s having its worst season and they still can’t beat them. Chiefs are gna get a number 1 WR next year it’s a wrap for buffalo. Stop the BS man
@@thedragonarmy4700 did allen go wide right????
@@jordanflores5687yeah to a wide open receiver in the end zone
*Lamar loses* "He CAN'T get it done in big moments!"
*Josh Allen loses* "He's not getting what he DESERVES, his team let him down!"
That Part! 💯
🗣️Say it louder, for the people in the back.
Hmm..wonder why 🤔
That's the history of the national media in this country. Prop up the white man and bring down the black man.
Lamar has 1 good playoff game in his career lol
When Lamar Jackson runs they call him a running back but Josh Allen gets praised for it
Yup and when Josh vultures goal line TDs from teammates who could have easily scored he 'does everything' and 'has no help' 😂
That’s what I can’t stand. People will look at the rushing TDs and be awed but he’s literally taking TDs at the goal line away from his own running backs
Not trying to argue, but I’m pretty sure most of his rushing tds are more than just goal line. He’s not scoring all these tush push tds. Obviously he has some, but most he’s actually running to get them.
@@zuggyzuggy Which is why his accuracy as a passer worsened throughout the Season. He wants to run. And this lack of passer discipline is why the actual running game is not as good. Pretty bad when RB1 is the QB, not the actual RB.
@@MSgt_0699 that’s fine, but with all due respect, the part about passing accuracy doesn’t matter to me because that’s not what they were talking about and it clearly didn’t affect how they ended the regular season. Also everyone can have their opinions about Josh Allen, but it doesn’t affect his overall accuracy in the playoffs.
RC is absolutely spot on here. why is the discourse about allen? talk about mahomes greatness
Josh Allen going for the big play instead of the open check down twice is what cost them. Dan saying Pat and Josh are equals is mind boggling to me. Pat having 2 super bowls and 6 straight AFC championships appearance, while Allen has 0 Super Bowl and 1 AFC championship appearance is the most lopsided “rivalry” in todays era.
Allen vs Mahomes is like Jordan vs Dominiue Wilkins
Wasn't TB12 giving Josh advices about Exactly that like 3 months ago ??!
I guess he ain't learn yet.
@menaceclan he refuses to learn which is why he will never be good in the playoffs
Ah, another idiot that thinks QB's aren't similar purely because of team accolades. It's like you think it's an individual sport. Do you not see the 21 other players on the field?
He made one bad play smh. It wasn’t his fault that they lost, but Mahomes is obviously better. If he had played like he did week one, it’s absolutely his fault, but he didn’t and the defense sucked. No he’s not better than Mahomes, and I agree that orlovsky is going over the top, but it’s not his fault
The fact is that Mahomes had 13 seconds and didn’t flinch. Allen was down 3, flinched, and missed throws.
"Patrick Mahomes guys made plays on the field" Macole Hardman says hi. I'm so tired of the media excuses for Allen. He was good for most of the game but almost had a fumble become a turnover and made some bad decisions when it mattered.
bUt jOsh OuTpLaYeD mAHomEs!!! - 🤡s in the comments
Wrong allen didn't kick the ball wide left
@@legitdragon6202if Josh was black you would be calling him a king 🤡
weirdo bringing race into it
@@nunyabusiness9974 but they wuz kangs n sheit
Nobody is trying to hear all that, and I love Dan Orlovsky. But let’s be real, if Lamar finished a game with less than 200 yards passing, no matter who dropped the ball during the game, if the ravens lose, they blame Lamar. So it’s funny that when the Bills lose, the excuse is blame everybody except Josh Allen.
its because josh is white lets call it what it is
When they win, Allen is the only player on the Bills apparently and no one else gets credit, even when they bail Josh out. ANd when they lose it's suddenly 'a team game' and everyone else gets blamed.
@@legitdragon6202 That's because Allen wants to be a one-man show, who hogs the ball. Fans see a super hero in a guy who can often throw an accurate pass (among the growing inaccuracy), but is determined to run more than his actual RB. But when they lose, it's because "Allen has no help."
@@MSgt_0699 spot on
Tbf Dan would not blame Lamar. Dan always cape for QBs
Give Pacheco some credit too the man was a dawg yesterday
I’m so glad that he finally brought up the Mecole fumble at the end. That drive is POINTLESS if Mecole doesn’t fumble, so I don’t feel bad for missed field goal.
The bills had 3 separate fumbles to their way, a missed INT then the chiefs had players dropping like flies on both sides of the ball and Buffalo STILL lost!
1:49 Ryan ATE that debate up! Can't have a better perspective tbh
I like Josh Allen, but he did miss a lot of open guys and didn't take what the defense was giving him last night. That was not a perfect game by Josh Allen, sorry.
OMG the media coddles Josh Allen so much it’s sickening 😭😭
Josh Allen tried to do too much on the last drive. That’s why they lost. Folks make so many excuses for this dude.
Nick Wright secretly watching this video and smiling.
Ryan Clark is the only one that sees what's going on. They want Allen to the face of the league because he looks like them lol
Facts
Lol he made the best throw in the game, mahomes is more consistently great
@@timlanghans made what best throws check the stats.
They been trying make him the golden boy for years 😂
@@ronskullie9380 the td to Shakir was the best throw of the game... mahomes played great but none of his throws were close to that dime
Dan is such a quarterback sympathizer 😂
RC the only one thinking truthfully. the glazing for allen in here is CRAZY
People want Josh Allen to be Peyton Manning so bad. Not only does he not win MVP’s but he also doesn’t win big playoff games
Exactly
Say that again for the people on the back...
But Manning was a solid passer and not a one-man show. Allen is an undisciplined one-man show who wants to be an RB, which is why his accuracy has suffered.
Facts they think just cause he can throw it 80 yards he’s automatically this great player 😂
he’s phillip rivers but really athletic 😂
Dan keeps talking how Allen and the Bills “deserved” to win last night.
No they “deserved” to lose after that terrible fake punt, but Hardman fumbled.
Then “deserved” to lose again with Allen’s fumble, but bills recovered.
Bass’ miss just made it right
As a Saints fan, I agree with Ryan Clark
Can say the same for Rodgers too
Watching Dan Orlovsky's argument boil down to "Josh Allen tried really hard, so we should just give him the win. It's not fair that he lost after combining for a massive 260 total yards."
Why doesn't it matter to Dan that he was second best? Mahomes played better and made more plays with guys you all said he couldn't win with.
People are really out there trying to claim he played better than Pat 😂
This is my favorite get up segment of all time. I’m with Ryan Clark 1000%
WHEN MAHOMES RECEIVER WERE DROPPING PASSES ALLLLLLL SEASON! No one made excuses for KC and gave us grace! Stop MAKING EXCUSES FOR ALLEN! The bills lost because ALLEN didn’t make the PLAYS THAT MATTERED THE MOST!!
Can we have more Ryan Clark on all of the mornings show, all sport show. THANK YOU RYAN CLARK
Yeah and less Dan
I agree with Ryan Clark 1000 percent! Y’all spent so much time defending Allen and not enough time congratulating the quarterback that actually won.
Dan's argument only holds water if this was just one game. But when Allen just can't seem to level up time after time when it counts, then RC's point is valid. Mahomes is Mahomes cause he wins DESPITE his team when it matters.
Ryan is right. Mahomes is so great people are rooting against the Chiefs because they're literally tired of them winning. But y'all keep talking about his counterparts like they're his equal
The world needs more analysts like RC.
Josh Allen is one of the only qbs who can be owened by another of his contemporaries and somehow still be on the same level in peoples eyes year after year. He played great, Mahomes played better thats all there is to it yet again
Difference: Mahomes is a QB first, who uses his weapons before running. Allen is a RB first, who considers the run even before he receives the snap. Explains his worsening inaccuracy all season and why the Bills actual running game comes second to Allen's one-man show. Hopefully, he learns some discipline as a passer during the offseason.
People won't ever question Allen's low IQ for a very specific reason
The hate for Patrick Mahomes is ridiculous he is the face of the NFL yall just got to deal with it.
Yep little praise for Mahomes, just crying for Josh Allen, predictable. And there be clowns saying Allen outplayed Pat lol
they always gotta stick a white qb in there. They tried it with burrow too and will try it again year after year with new excuses yet they still doubt lamar and say he was ridiculous for asking for that money but if Justin Herbert asked for it would be 31 teams after him. Nfl not used to blacks being the qb franchise face of the league players.
When are people going to just accept the fact Josh isn’t Pat? It’s ok. Josh is a great qb. Pat is just the best. The difference between the two is one guy tried to hit a homerun ball instead of a check down which would have made the field goal attempt much closer and the other guy was dealing to all parts of the field with his arm
Because they put these dudes on pedestal even tho they haven’t accomplished anything
Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson watching the media talk about Josh Allen being the only one who can match up to Mahomes when he is 0-3 against him in the playoffs.
The point here is.. the Chiefs won and yet here we are talking about Josh Allen. This is just weirdo behavior man.
Media: "Chiefs are regressing and the league is catching up with them"
Mahomes: "Hold my rings"
Josh Allen: "Hold my half decade worth of divisional championship swag."
I wish somebody love me as much as the media and Dan Orlovsky loves Josh Allen.
Now Dan Orlovsky speaking completely from his feelings this is sports. You don’t deserve anything you lost no matter how you play doesn’t mean you deserve anything because you lost you deserve it when you win it
Josh Allen is like Joel Embiid. Two Talented players, MVP level players, but ALWAYS FELL SHORT in the playoffs. Guess what, ESPN does not care 😂
The funniest thing about all the Josh Allen comps is that they always compare him to a player with hella regular season accolades. When Josh Allen has nothing but two pro bowls to his name
Embiid’s numbers go down in the postseason. Allen’s go up. Allen tries man, football is a team sport
@@sprawlz6466He just can’t beat Mahomes and its alright to be second its just the Mahomes era just like it was the Brady era its ok to be second
@@Lohofua I think he could on the right team. This Bills team has done nothing but let him down
@@sprawlz6466 Thats a opinion not a fact lol now we blaming the team? Bills were the favourites to win this matchup by alot lets not act like they were some trash poverty team that just so happened to make it this far, stop the excuses Mahomes is just better then Allen plain simple
In the 13 seconds game, BUFFALO HAD THE TOP RANKED DEFENSE
That game literally wasn’t Allen’s fault at all. That was all on the defense
@@Endzoneproductions17 nobody gave Mahomes that excuse when he didn’t touch the ball against the Patriots in 2019 foh
@@sirhoopalot1125 well that’s dumb, but what do you suppose he should’ve done? Motivated the defense more? Also I don’t really remember too much criticism of Mahomes that game, cause everyone knows how hard it is to beat Brady
I appreciate Ryan for keeping it real 💯
Stop giving him excuses. Josh didn't get let down. He let down his team on multiple plays too. Josh was good. He was unbelievable bad on the last 5-6 plays.
No kidding. If you think this is bad, go watch GMFB.
And he's learning from an oc that stopped running the ball and a coach who goes for it deep in his territory on 4th and long
Amen RC!!! A perfect throw ends in a catch!! They have to gave their great white hope.
I wish Lamar had people making excuses for him like this
I have a lot respect for Josh Allen he a great quarterback but Patrick is different he done where Josh hasn’t yet achieve winning afc championships and winning super bowls Josh has won their divisions against jets patriots dolphins but overall Josh is great but Patrick is the best
Ryan Clark is basically saying, "Why men great till the gotta be great?"
espn is so desperate for the next great white hope qb
Facts 😂
Na Dan makes excuses for everyone but Lamar is crazy
Lamar was putting up all the stats and still could not win the big game. However, nobody was making excuses for him. Its not that Josh Allen is at fault, it's just that people need to start taking accountability. It's easy to blame a driver who wasn't paying attention and crashed into your car. It's harder to say "you know what if i just payed a little more attention an was more aware I could have avoided all of this". Be an adult and learn to take accountability is all Ryan is saying and I agree.
lol you sound like an idiot
What stats has Lamar put up leading up to the Texans game in the playoffs? Also he was average in the regular season as well, All I heard were excuses that he had no receivers, but when diggs dropped an easy catch and Sheffield dropped another amazing throw and another throw before that yesterday where is the same energy?
@@theone7778 I hear what your saying, I disagree with one main point. Nobody made Lamars inability to make a deep run in the playoffs a legitimate excuse. The reason nobody picked the baltamore Ravens to win the SuperBowl was the idea that Lamar could not get over the big hump. And to be fair he was bashed quite a bit, I'm not sure where your getting the notion that ppl articulated excuses for Lamar especially in the Post-season. Nobody denied he was amazing in the regular season (he won an MVP prior lol) but it would be strange to have expected/Favored Lamar to win a Superbowl given how Patrick and Josh Allen was playing. In addition, nobody is denying bad things out of Josh Allens control happend. But I'm sorry, you can't tell me Brady was the reason that the Patriorts were as dominant as they were, and tell me Josh Allen is avoidant of blame from the loss. It's either the QB is or isn't the most important position can't have it both ways. And if the Qb is the most important position than stay consistent. They either Win or loose because of that position. Josh played great no doubt, However like everyone else accountability is of the utmost importance. Even in his great play he did miss a couple of key throws that could have been the difference. Josh Allen did not have a perfect performance, therefore admitting that there could have been things he could have done better is not a blasfamous statement. In actually all it's allowing is accountability. The fact of the matter is no matter how anyone spins it he's 0-2 vs Mahomes and 0-1 against Burrow in which he was at home. Thats what's going to be remembered not all these bad play calls or dropped passes. So, I sincerely hope Josh looks in the mirror and doesn't blame anyone else but looks inward, that's a true champion. Not someone who points the finger or blames others. And I have no doubt that he will do just that and one day win it all.
#YallBeRootingForJoshAllen
I'm a Bills fan and I think Ryan Clark has a point. We talk about Mahomes like that because he always comes up huge in the biggest games.
Until Josh does it in the playoffs he's just not a great as Mahomes. I love Josh don't get me wrong. Football is a team game but Josh is gonna get the blame because he is the face of the franchise.
THANK YOU, RC!!!! Salute to you my dude for just keeping it real!!!! The Josh Allen D riding is DISGRACEFUL!!!
Dan O and Rex are EMBARRASSING THEMSELVES......
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
The D riding they do for JA is wild. Last time i checked stats dont matter the WINS and LOSES count no one cares if you throw a million touchdowns but still lost. Media gives this dude a pass for his stats but his playoff records says otherwise
The thing is Mahome stats was still better.
RC is so on point with this take!!! They stay making excuses for Josh, there’s only 2 columns that matter in sports Wins & Losses everything else is semantics, Mahomes did what was necessary to WIN and Josh missed Diggs wide open in the flat to make a closer fg and on the left side which would’ve made the fg not only closer but he would’ve pushed it right it would’ve been good. So Josh went for the home run n threw a 🦆 into the dirt, he LOSS!
Dan just conveniently ignores that Josh almost threw a pick there and fumbled the ball that luckily didn't get recovered by the Chiefs when the game is getting tight. He missed key passes on that last drive because he was looking at the homeruns. Why is it not his fault?
Diggs is overrated, dropped big pass 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
But I thought it was the Chiefs receivers who were gonna drop everything 😂
Funny because Josh Allen wasn’t so glorified until Diggs got there.. 🤧
@@underratedappreciated9110 diggs is overrated, before diggs got their he never passed 1,100 yards so calm down
@@jx6040 right, because all receivers do that every year. You sound idiotic. They got him and kept him for a reason. Dropped passes are apart of the game, just ask Patrick Mahomes.
@@underratedappreciated9110 so all received make a a huge leap when they join a new team? U sound dumb asf
How do people take Dan as a analyst seriously
Few words are needed to convince of Patrick Mahomes greatness, but it takes a lot of words to convince of Josh Allen’s.
dan, dan, the josh allen stan,
tried to defend a playoff winless man.
Go Chiefs.
Josh Allen played to a level and “
didn’t get what he “deserved” because Mahomes played to a better level every time. And so did burrow. The only elite qb Allen has beat in those 21 playoff victories is Lamar once. Stop with the excuses- he’s great, not great enough.
Could you imagine all the defending they would’ve done if KC recovered that fumble. They are ridiculous 😂😂😂
Dan has lost his biased mind bro.. RC is so right with everything
Notice how none of the glazing by Dan is for Allen as a QB, it's as a runner. Buffalo played not to lose last night, that's not how you win. So many passes being the line, running to use up the clock. When it was time to make a play to take over the game, they didn't make those plays.
“So now he’s blocking for himself too.” RC is on fire 😂
Nobody let Josh down he let his team down!!!!
Can we please stop having Dan Orlovsky talk about what makes a good starting NFL quarterback like he knows. The man was a backup his whole career and he was a bad backup at that. He can critique college QBs because he did make it to the NFL. But unlike Shannon Sharp Orlovsky has no credentials or place to criticize starting quarterbacks
💯. He was spitting nothing but, excuses.
💯 Percent FACTS!!!!!
and what credentials do you have to criticize him? saying someone has to be some star or even a starter in the pros to talk/analyze sports is beyond dumb
@@calvin9951 didn’t say he couldn’t talk it. But he should stop trying to tell players what they need to do to be great. Or that lesser players are as good as some of the greatest of all time
Right 💯 and Josh Allen is a great player but he don’t get it done in the playoffs that should mean something to me it really do
0:38 what in the exaggeration 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 the glazing is crazy
@@kennygreen9338 i was like wtf 😂😂😂😂😂
@@AliFrankTheTank 🤣 Dan is getting outta hand
Allen is going through what Manning went through. Hes got one arch nemesis in the same conference and he just cant get past him. Maybe that changes eventually but hes never gonna hear the end of it until he wins one
This didn’t age well for Dan O. He’s on tape here saying Patrick Mahomes is not better than Josh Allen. Eehhh. And I bet when Brady beat Mahomes in that AFC championship, when Mahomes was stellar, Dan O wasn’t on tv saying Mahomes didn’t deserve to lose. What a statement! You know what else didn’t happen? The NFL didn’t change the overtime rules because Mahomes “didn’t deserve to lose.” What was different about Mahomes never getting to touch the ball in overtime from Allen? The difference, we didn’t have sportscasters whining about it for Mahomes.
Ryan Clark spitting facts.
RC is 110% correct. Allen is a unreal talent but he needs to get over the hump and beat a top AFC team in the play offs
If the chiefs picked up Josh Allen’s FUMBLE this isn’t a conversation. Plus if they make the kick these “analysts” act like Pat doesn’t go win the game just like every single time they play the bills in the playoffs
Nah they'd still be glazing him, just like people were still glazing Jalen Hurts for 'outplaying' Mahomes in the Super Bowl - even though he literally fumbled a TD away to the Chiefs
😮Please give me more of Ryan Clark, period
I've never seen anybody get more credit for almost beating somebody, than Josh Allen
Rex sitting there thinking, "I know I get paid to give my opinion, but I'm enjoying this back and forth so I'll let these guys go at it."
The Allen excuses are ridiculous... Ryan is right, nobody made excuses for Malone, Ewing, Barkley, etc etc... they talked about Jordan!
TV talking heads rather die on the excuses hill, rather than the greatness of Mahomes in this moment!
RC's point is goin over a lot of y'all heads! He's not blaming the loss on Josh Allen. He's wondering why the media always wants to talk about his "greatness" after a loss.... we don't do that with "othet" QB's...
So we just gotta make Dane orshlovsky mad for him to pronounce yesterday properly? 3:55 he finally said the R hahahah
@11:19 Orlovsky isn't making any sense. There are elite players who never even made a dent in the playoffs. How many times was JJ Watt DPOY? He got 12 sacks in his retirement season when the team wasn't competitive at all and after needing to restart his heart earlier in the season. JJ deserved some post-season success. There are a lot of players that don't get what they "deserved." It's a team sport. And it's subjective. The guy you think deserves an eventual win could be on someone else's "he's alright, but he's not great" list. That's why the winner of the game is the team with the most points. And not the team that deserves it the most. If that were the case then this Super Bowl would be Detroit v. Baltimore. We don't even need to play the conference championship games. Niners and Chiefs can go home.
They win...it's Josh. They Lose...it's everybody else.
Mahomes guys made plays because he played downfield all game. You can’t expect your guys to make plays when you don’t call their number until the 4th freakin quarter
Josh lets himself down. He doesn’t do enough. In the 13 second game Butker missed an extra point and a FG. Mahomes still won the game because Mahomes was better!
Either you get it done or you don’t. The Chiefs looked bad all year and it falls on Mahomes.
How tf is Josh Allen being blamed, he had 2 rushing TDs and a passing TD. The placekicker missed , Diggs missed the catch and people out here blaming Allen.
The QB get all the credit when you win and takes all the blame when you lose - Peyton Manning
Orlovsky got the nerve to compare Josh Allen to the Cowboys by saying “you either love him, or you love to hate him..” 😒 who hates Josh Allen? If anything, he’s comparable to the Cowboys in the fact that y’all glaze him for accomplishing absolutely NOTHING. And I’m of course a Cowboys fan, but I gotta keep it real 💯 man threw 39 passes & had 189 yards 😂🤦🏽♂️
Did Jordan Love deserve to beat the Niners or at least go to Overtime? Yall didn’t spend any time talking about it Green Bay’s missed Field Goal
Thank you Ryan!!
Bruh, a debate show with Ryan Clark and Dan Orlovsky would be fire. 🔥 lol
Thank you RYAN CLARK. I watch the "Raw Room Podcast" and I've already noted a million times how the MEDIA SUBTLY HATES ON MAHOMES. The Raw Room host Darren Bates commented that the "Media has never called Mahomes a "winner"." Wow! That's deep! I'm mad ABOUT THE CON'T LIES OF BRADY still being the best. Every study that has compared Brady to Mahomes based on their AGE or the # of GAMES PLAYED puts Mahomes FAR, FAR, in the lead. For example, Mahomes has now won more post season games than Brady by AGE 30. Mahomes has 13 games by AGE 28, Brady has just 12 games by AGE 30. SI did an exhaustive comparative analysis of Brady:Mahomes after playing 75 games (1st 5 Yrs in NFL as STARTER); Mahomes beats Brady's STATS in very category but 1. Across the board, in NFL History, Mahomes ranks in TOP 3, Brady does not.
Gotta love it when RC is in his bag 🤣
13 seconds on the clock 💀
Josh allen is 2 tiers below mahomes. The only two on the tier below are burrow and lamar. I don’t care about stats
Boy the conversations that will need to be had if Mahomes wins this Sunday…