Early Look at the Voidweaver Rotation - Shadow Priest (The War Within)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024

Комментарии • 52

  • @scs-yt
    @scs-yt Месяц назад +28

    It's kinda ironic that matching void form and voidweaver is pretty shitty. The entire hero spec should work on top of void form.

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  Месяц назад +6

      Yeah totally, really feels like they didnt want to tie them together to leave the "choice" to the player but its a complete miss for me. I dont think its an accident that there is 0 Void Bolt interactions on either tree

    • @DanielCruz-qr6qu
      @DanielCruz-qr6qu Месяц назад +3

      Lazy design by an old and tired company.

    • @zizouwowist1641
      @zizouwowist1641 Месяц назад +6

      @@DanielCruz-qr6qu the question is do u ever get tired of complaining ?

    • @popopiidzdsq9079
      @popopiidzdsq9079 Месяц назад +4

      I feel it's dinsengenious to say that void form and voidweaver have bad synergy
      void form resets the cd of mind blast so you can torrent void blast x2 void form void blast x2 and maybe 3 if proc
      and voidweaver give us a lot of insanity which is very good to extend void form

  • @dustinmontanna
    @dustinmontanna Месяц назад +2

    Thank you for the last part man, definitely made me feel a lot less like "OMG I HAVE TO DO THIS?!" lol

  • @Necrostrike
    @Necrostrike Месяц назад +12

    I hate how they refuse to buff void eruption. I don't want to use that shitty Dark Ascension in my void themed spec!

  • @Tyinviril
    @Tyinviril Месяц назад +3

    Another great video, thanks Publik!

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  Месяц назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @AlextheLeegend
    @AlextheLeegend Месяц назад +4

    I've found voidweaver to feel pretty clunky. ***It being activated at the start of a non-haste reduced 3 second cast but then also having the duration increase via mind blasts idk. It seems like that would have been easy to fix as you had suggested in an earlier video of just pushing the rift after it finished channeling.**** (Blizz changed this) Or another idea I'd thought of was instead of mind blasts being buffed only during the duration of rift make it just buff the next three mind blasts and then also change it so DP increases the length of rift instead of MB. This way you don't have that sort of stressful moment right as Void torrent ends where you really want to press both mind Blast and DP. It would be just a clear decision of pressing DP and then going through your mind Blast charges. It would also prevent you from having to hold mind Blast charges pre torrent.
    Oh and if you were playing Void Eruption it wouldnt be quiet as messy as it seems like it would be currently (on beta). They'd probably need to buff the number of Void blasts youd get playing void eruption to compensate.

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  Месяц назад +1

      Thankfully they made a change so that the rift duration is actually started at the start of Void Torrent yes, but it is also fully refreshed at the END of your Void Torrent cast. Which incentivizes you to full channel it every time.
      Next 3 blasts is interesting but that could also lower the amount of skill expression in the window? but definitely see what you mean.

    • @AlextheLeegend
      @AlextheLeegend Месяц назад

      @@Publikwow oh wow that rift change is really nice to hear! Yeah that's true, and they've dumbed our spec down a lot as is even just from the start of Df. I just hate the idea of holding mind Blast so much lol. It's been one of the few constants with our spec along with dot (dp) maintenance.
      I guess my thought was you'd still have that desire to get them all off during the rift just because of the 10% increase of shadow damage virtue of Voidheart. It would give you more flexibility during that window. But also to your point less skill expression and no chance of getting lucky with procs giving you >3 void blasts.

  • @stricklylife483
    @stricklylife483 Месяц назад +3

    Though i like the increased ranged talent over mindgames (great change). I wish they did this instead in its place:
    "Add additional charge to shadow crash and increase its range to 10yards but increases the cd by 50%."
    (aka, makes shadow crash the same size as other aoe placement talents (DnD, Conc, RoF, blizzard, etc..), gives 2 charges of shadow crash but increases the cd to 30sec per charge.
    This would be a great quality of life for shadow and make it less punishing when playing with tanks that don't understand other classes (aka moving targets out of dps aoe). This i believe is also the most requested changes I've seen from the shadow priest community (aka listening to the players).
    Please Like if u agree, or comment if u think differently.

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  Месяц назад

      Yeah I think so but I don’t think it should be a talent. Just should be baked in

  • @KirionF
    @KirionF 28 дней назад +1

    Really wish that they had made Voidweaver as a way to go back to Legion Shadow for those that loved the insanity mechanic and difficulty.

  • @Bradswhite91
    @Bradswhite91 Месяц назад +6

    I kinda wish they would just replace MF/MS with Void Blast instead of MB. The Shadowy Insight procs hurt my soul during rift windows. From a gameplay perspective I really enjoy Voidweaver, from a tuning perspective I’m curious how it will feel by season 2. Because it’s gotten so many nerfs already.
    Quick question Publik, is it worth while to dump devouring plagues during Rift on single target for larger rift collapses? And, is SW:D even worth pressing anymore?

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  Месяц назад

      We follow a similar priority with Devouring Plague that we do currently, just with the addition of checking for Rift. So if Voidform, Dark Ascension, or Entropic Rift are active you somewhat full send Devouring Plague (to an extent). Obviously you need to do this carefully to maintain uptime but usually not a problem during rift windows with the Insanity gen from Void Blast

  • @dougneagle7563
    @dougneagle7563 Месяц назад

    It’s amazing to me that people complain about system/stacking buff bloat so blizz says no worries we’re here to add more !!!

  • @juansaraiva5438
    @juansaraiva5438 Месяц назад +1

    Hey Publik, first, ty for ur feedback! Second: how much Voidweaver is better in comparasion with Archon? Cause, personally, the Archon rotation is more similar with current build, right?

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  Месяц назад +2

      Right now Voidweaver is ahead by about 12% on single target and up to 20% in Mythic+.
      And yes Archon plays more identically to Shadow currently in Dragonflight except you now press Halo every 1 minute and press MFI/MSI more often during CDs

  • @fabdaddyx
    @fabdaddyx Месяц назад

    Gonna be pretty frustrating pooling MB having a tier set that promoted pressing it at a very high prio. Feels like void blast could be in place of MFI or MSI and feel perfectly fine, like you said, probably a balancing nightmare, and it would likely mean every 30seconds our normal filler would attribute to PL unless they removed that interaction entirely.

  • @jongwanshin4643
    @jongwanshin4643 Месяц назад

    Thanks for your video. Im new in shadow priest. And your videos are helpful. Can I know your mindspike macro?? I always wonder what macro it is 😂

  • @EazyEcoli
    @EazyEcoli 10 дней назад

    I've read a few solid reviews of how this plays recently and it is not looking like something I will play. While it could nail it on fantasy, except for all but forcing you into dark ascension and neglecting void eruption, the game play seems very clunky and punishing. Pooling mind blast feels wrong and shadowy insight procs feel bad at times. With Archon out performing, being bland, missing on fantasy completely, and revolving around a boring filler spell, I am currently keeping my options open for what I want to play.

  • @deefaster8704
    @deefaster8704 19 дней назад

    This patch was supposed to be what brings me back to Shadow….😢Looks like not now…🧐

  • @scorlos5020
    @scorlos5020 Месяц назад

    Might just be me but I really do not like the new "cosmic void" effects, the shadowy purple look always spoke to me but now I feel like most of the cool abilities are now replaced with the newer sparkly blue cosmic stuff and it just looks super weird to me. I wish they had just kept the ability's looks and just updated the core flow of the spec.

  • @takatoekoe
    @takatoekoe 26 дней назад

    Are you going to make a Spriest guide for new players in TWW?

  • @angelicdescent6276
    @angelicdescent6276 Месяц назад

    Do you think shadow will gets its 2 point nodes reduced further? Dont we have like 8 of them right now or something? All the other classes have most of them removed/reworked

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah i think we have the most or tied for the most in the game and then the most possible talent builds in the game for DPS specs. Would love to see that but i dont think it will happen until a future patch

  • @issacmorris60
    @issacmorris60 Месяц назад +2

    You and jak our like our only hope to push some changes to the tree and class tree. dont stop talking about needing changes cause, no, this class is not fine

  • @Elbereth_TV
    @Elbereth_TV 25 дней назад

    VT really should reset all MB stacks, SP is looking weak af atm

  • @alihanatadeniz7603
    @alihanatadeniz7603 Месяц назад

    so if we are playing void form we torrent + use 2 charges than void form CD's and use 2 more charge maybe or is DA much better with 30 sec void torrents

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  Месяц назад

      Dark Ascension is pretty about 5% ahead for Voidweaver right now, so definitely the preferred option. But yeah right now for VF Voidweaver opener you Vampiric Touch -> Voidwraith -> Void Torrent -> Devouring Plague --> Void Blast x2 -> Void Eruption + CDs

  • @victuss1413
    @victuss1413 Месяц назад

    Glyph of Old Shadowform when?....I miss being spectral, ominous. The new one isn't bad, I just don't like it as much

  • @Koenigg99
    @Koenigg99 Месяц назад +1

    How is our damage looking? The priest discord is pretty doom and gloom about it.

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  Месяц назад +2

      So far in raids it definitely needs help, below average in my testing. But inside of Mythic+ there are plenty of good things to talk about and I think it will be quite competitive. There is a lot of tuning left to be done (and time to do it) so I would not be worried.

    • @MisterTLion5921
      @MisterTLion5921 Месяц назад

      ​@@Publikwowm+ higher keys only or also good in keys below 20?

  • @_RIPLI
    @_RIPLI Месяц назад

    Actually i'd prefer disc VB for shadow, but with some flavour to mf:i / ms:i and get rid of mind melt talent

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  Месяц назад

      Yeah I would be interested to see how it would work, might get too crowded inside of voidform though (i.e. void bolt priority over spammable void blast).

  • @user-hr5vs9yw7y
    @user-hr5vs9yw7y 25 дней назад

    what power is it in the number five buttom?

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  20 дней назад

      Will of the Forsaken, Undead racial

  • @poorwowgameplay
    @poorwowgameplay Месяц назад

    Disc already has a pretty high skill ceiling and shadow had theirs lowered quite a bit. So needing to pool mind blasts makes sense.

  • @bear576
    @bear576 Месяц назад +1

    Voidweaver looks and feels better on disc in my opinion

  • @nuqz4210
    @nuqz4210 Месяц назад

    Just give us 2 stacks of MB at the end of the VoidTorrent cast....

    • @Publikwow
      @Publikwow  Месяц назад +1

      That could help but would also devalue Voidform even more than it already is and consequentially be a buff to Dark Ascension. Our cooldowns are kind of a mess right now

    • @nuqz4210
      @nuqz4210 Месяц назад +1

      @@Publikwow hm, i feel like VF already needs a buff anyway. Might as well do that one one go :D

  • @anthonysteinerv
    @anthonysteinerv Месяц назад

    I would shoot myself before playing pet spec once again.

  • @Ailike32
    @Ailike32 Месяц назад

    Yaaaay Because we aren't watching enough timers.