“I've been terrified of the water, and yet it seems I'm forced to go into one every movie that I make.” -Natalie Wood… by the way Robert Wagner is still alive, I meant to say Frank Sinatra died without ever being called out but instead said Wagner. I don’t care if Wagner is 100 cause he’s in his 90s now, as long as he is still alive and found guilty, he should get his punishment! Also watch “Frank Sinatra - my oh my was his life DRAMATIC..” NEXT ruclips.net/video/s_nuxt9L5x4/видео.html
I was thinking he did die a short while ago.. kirk Douglas never payed for his mistake though and her mother geez oh I wonder how much money 💰 she and the father made off Natalie's back... 🤔
Yea struck me that Wagner and Walken are LGBTQ..I would have never thought. Much less that Sinatra, Douglas and others were pedos...those are the "tough guy manly men" that white men and some non white men have looked up to for decades as examples of what a "real and successful man" is. As well that James Dean was a male version of Natalie Wood...the whole system with it being done and seen as business as usual for decades ...today the world got a little darker unfortunately
Equally disgusting is how many mothers are more than willing to pimp out their daughters for their own gain. This is nothing new and it's certainly not restricted to Hollywood. I personally know a European woman who lived a very similar existence. Her whole life was orchestrated by her mother, including the beauty pageants she entered and the men she was "encouraged" to screw to get her way to financial security. I also met a man that works with young women who have been s3x trafficked in SE Asia. This person said the number one way that girls enter this life is being sold off by their mothers. Even when they are rescued and sent back home, they're often beaten by their mothers and sold right back.
Kirk Douglas lived to be 103. He was also tied with the disappearance of a young movie actress named Jean Spangler. The story goes that the married Douglas was having an affair with her and she became pregnant by him. Kirk Douglas was a rising star at the time she mysteriously vanished in 1949, never to be seen again. None of this has been proven 100% true but there are many clues with point to Kirk Douglas having some involvement.
You know what's incredibly sad? How Christopher Walken knows what really happened. The days of celebrities getting away with horrible things and getting off is few and far between.
I think Walken knows way more then he cares to admit (he always just claims he went to bed that night and knows nothing)but I believe he was the catalyst to the argument between wood and Wagner and doesn't want to be held accountable
There was a whole dr Phil episode about this (thought I can’t stand that man😅) claiming she saw Christopher walked with her husband something they didn’t want her to see and you can figure out the rest
@@sozoal7604If she saw those two getting it on and she was drunk, is it possible she wanted to exit life in a moment of despair? Or did her husband permanently shut her up?
@majimespirit8421 But that's why she divorced him the first time, when she caught him red-handed in a sexual tryst with another man in their own home.
@@majimespirit8421 Everyone was drunk. Natalie & Walken were talking & RJ saw it as flirting. He smashed a bottle & yelled at Walken who went to his cabin to avoid a fight. Natalie did not kill herself over that. She would never go into the dark water purposely.
It's strange how three actors in Rebel Without a Cause died my unnatural means: James Dean, car accident, 1955; Sal Mineo, murder, 1976; and Natalie Wood, drowning
Natalie Wood! I remember watching "The Mystery of Natalie Wood" (my first intro to her) when I was around 12-13 and I didn't sleep that night because my spirit kept telling me her death had more to it. I hated what she went through during her childhood (her mom's vibe was too off). I am also scared of large bodies of water and just to think of the trauma she experienced, makes my heart ache. Rest in Peace Natalie.
@@KarineAlourde I agree! It saddens me about her mom's participation in this and Frank Sinatra, I'm so disappointed in him but also not surprised. Unfortunately, incidents like this happened so much back then and I still believe it happens now. I always believed her sister Lana Wood, a sister just knows. And Kirk Douglas, you are sick, you betta rot in the afterlife!
I believe that during their drunken fight Natalie slipped and said that she was going to tell everyone the truth about Robert and he lost it. If the truth had come out he would've been ruined. He was adored for being a ladies-man right from It takes a Theif and Switch. A cover story of being Barbara Stanwycks' boyfriend isn't enough to convince anyone now but back then it was enough to fool people and convince them that he was straight. He wasn't. That was the cause of their divorce. She caught him with the Butler. She lost it and it ended their marriage.
Every time I see creepy Christopher Walken, I am disgusted. He knows exactly how she died after a heated argument with Robert Wagner. A secret he's taking to his grave. The same every time Robert Wagner's in that soft spoken tv ad in a grandfatherly sweater .
I've never had a high opinion of parents forcing their children to work instead of just grow up, go to school and play. This revealed here horrifies me. I always like Natalie Wood and enjoyed her movies. I truly saddened when she died. I had heard rumors about Christopher Walken before - that he might be gay. But I hadn't heard it about Robert Wagner. This changes so much about that night. How terrifying for her.
When I read books about Hollywood back in those days, every single book, mentions underage stars being forced into unfavourable positions with elderly married directors. So to know it was all real is so disturbing
Yes, "Splendor" is sadly beautiful. The same writer , William Inge, penned "Picnic." Also about parents who make controlling demands of their children's careers, obsessed with monetary success. The children draw their own, very modest, paths to happiness.
Natalie Wood was my mom's favorite actress. I loved her too. What a sad life Natalie had, in so many ways. Just think of all of the teen girls who wished they were her, but had no idea of the horrors that she went through. May she rest in peace.
I am so glad you are speaking out for victims. Especially those who are being trafficked today by these evil powerful people. My heart breaks for these children. 😢
Sadly, no progress has been made to solve Natalie’s cause of death! Robert Wagner is still alive! He turned 93 in February and is married for 32 years! May Natalie rest in peace. 💛
He definitely had something to do with her death. At the very least he saw her drowning and did nothing. But it makes no sense how she got in the water in the first place.
I agree with everything you said, I have known about these predators for over 40 years, when I watched a film, that was talking about the casting couch, these men are allowed to get away with it because a lot of them are in powerful positions, and are doing the same thing and are protected. It's disgusting that we still allow these people to get away with such evil.
My grandma used to talk about Natalie Wood all the time when I was a kid and about how she knew she was murdered that night. I was only around 12 years old when it happened but I heard it from my grandma for years and years. My grandma died in 2002 but I know she is up in Heaven saying “I told you so! He killed her! She was afraid of the water!” RIP grandma, I miss her so much. 💛 7/25/23
Natalie was a beautiful child & woman. Unfortunately she was exploited by an overbearing & ambitious mother who should have been protecting and nurturing her daughter. Her mother’s behavior gave permission to those disgusting men to abuse her. I truly hope one day The truth about Natalie’s death will be revealed & she gets justice. Love her! 💛
What is sad is Kirk Douglas got by with that & we all didn’t know about it!😡 Makes me LIVID. Wonder if Michael Douglas realizes how terrible his father was.🤬 So disgusting! And does Catherine Zeta Jones know her FIL was a PERVERT?? Gag🤢
Back in those days, most children were not nurtured. Instead, parents had to teach them to survive. And they had to survive as well. There were few jobs for women back then other than wife and mother. No welfare back then either.
It happens all over the earth and from the beginning. Christ came and was crucified in the flesh so that if we turn from our sins and obey God's commandments we might not die the second and eternal death from which there's no resurrection. Praise God/Christ.
😢 these stories keep getting more tragic as new details become available. Thank you for taking the time to share this sensitive material. We won't be able to help the next generation to build a safer world until we expose all the lies of the last century. Yellow ❤s
Nice job on these videos! I am CRUSHED to know the truth. Hollywood is an awful place! Sound of Freedom was OUTSTANDING and heartbreaking at the same time. Thank you for giving it a plug as the world needs to know what is going on! Our children are NOT for sale!
Also Woody Allan should be properly investigated as he used to s.xlly abuse his '7' year old stepdaughter in his loft yet his corrupt lawyers got all charges against him dropped. The American law society is corrupt, sick and pathetic.
She was his adopted daughter. He adopted her and the younger boy. They and the other children were adopted my Mia Farrow. But yes he SA her and was grooming Mae Yin yet Woody Allen was so powerful that he was able to spin the story to make it look like Mia was jealous that he chose Mae yin over her. He never had desires to marry Mae yin but did so to cover the true SA against the younger girl. There’s a doc on HBO that dives deeper than what the news told us. The DFS worker who did his investigation was fired because he would not change his findings about the abuse. Sickening and sad this man had to defend his job and reputation (which was impeccable as he was considered one of the top DFS workers in NY). They failed all of those children and I feel Mai Yin may tell her story one day? The sick thing is Woody Allen was able to “adopt” two more little girls and there is no telling what is going on in that home.
@@SR77736 The Sidis of India.. Identify with their African roots and call themselves BLACK. The DALITS and UNTOUCHABLES as well. Sit down. This isn’t the conversation for you‼️
I think you did a great job with the Natalie Wood story. I saw the movie the sound of freedom the other day, and it was heartbreaking and intense. The two things we should care about in this world is children and animals as both are so horribly abused. I have been a strong advocate for both and find myself intimately involved in animal rescue issues all the time . If we could just make a dent with those two issues, I think this world would be a better place than it is now.
We are with you. You could all help by sending letters to local houses of worship to ask their followers to stop abusing black cats. We have a real problem in my area with a majority of Mexican people and their superstitions.
The butterfly story especially is agonising to hear; poor little creature. I believe that if you do anything to harm a smaller, weaker creature than you, for anything other than out of reluctant desperation (ie. killing mosquitoes or others who are out to harm you) you bring a Karmic thing on yourself. Natalie's mother sounded evil.
I absolutely loved her most of all in "Splendour in the Grass" - I still cry every time I see even a part of it! Of course, I love all her movies. Since her death was announced, I have always felt she was killed by Robert Wagner and nothing has ever caused me to doubt that.
@@kathygoulden2925 If you mean "Splendour in the Grass," it was about two teens very much in love but his father didn't want them together and "advised" his son (who was supposed to go to Yale) to "date" other girls which devastates her and she winds up in a mental institution. He winds up marrying another girl and she winds up marrying one of the doctors. The ending of the movie shows her visiting him just before she marries and meeting his family on his less-than-productive farm with chickens running in and out of the house; she leaves in her much better car. It is obvious their lives were not remotely what they would have been together. The longing in their eyes of what should have been was beautifully portrayed. It was a sad story about what happens when others interfere. The couple was very well matched and would have had a wonderful life together if his father had just left it alone. As it turned out, she would have the great life his father had planned for him but his family lost everything (depression years) but they both had terrible heartache. I highly recommend the movie, but plan to have tissues handy. It is worth a good cry if you need one.
Well Karine, Walken was there and he knows what happened but will never set the record straight. Thank you for this Karine and thank you for your channel.💛💛🎉
Here's a story I know 1st hand regarding her 'mommy dearest' During the 1990s, my mom lived in a building where Natalie's mother lived on the floor above or below her ( can't recall exactly) Anyway, she'd sit in the lobby wearing a mink coat, and would boast to my mother about various things. I saw the mother.. no smile.. Mother said she was strange. Anyway, I was visiting my mother one Memorial Day, 1995 and we went for a walk and upon returning, there were dozens of fire engine around my mother's building and the fire went to my mother's unit- Turns out, Natailie's mother set the place on fire, lighting candles on the stove for Natalie. She had done this before and this time there was real damage. Finally, my mother saw Lana, Natalie's sister, come take the mother away. My mother was told that Wagner had been paying her rent. The building finally kicked her out.
Excellent presentation on the tragic life of Natalie Wood. Such a beautiful woman. I had no idea about Kirk Douglas, Frank Sinatra and Robert Wagner....wow! Great content.
the answer to your question at the end is yes, money isn't irrelevant. And let's be blunt, the path to alot of money has never been wide, it is narrow and usually involves negative schemes
Thanks for this video. Its sad that she never had anyone in her corner her whole life not even her own mother. Sounds like her sister was the only one.
💛 I was so into Natalie Wood when I was a teenager. I absolutely loved her movies and when she died, I just knew in my heart that it was foul play. Such a sad story…
Unfortunately in the 50's it was a right of passage to get done by a producer/ agent before getting a role. You HAD to be sleeping with someone to get a role. Marilyn Monroe has admitted this. She said it's either you do it, or the role goes to the next girl who will. James Dean was also sleeping with various producers to get roles. Shirley Temple also spoke later in life how in producer meetings, she would be cornered into an office as a child with producers pulling their privates out at her.
I love water and was a swimmer since age 3 but I think it's horrible that her husband, Robert Wagner who knew she was afraid of water and couldn't swim was part of her drowning at sea, someone who she should have been able to trust after marrying him TWICE! It's tragic. Thanks for that beautiful biography of a great star.
Thank you Karine, for shedding a little more light on the topic of Natalie Wood. The truth may never be revealed about her tragic death and all of the circumstances surrounding it. Such a tragedy. To be taken advantage of multiple times in her life by the men she worked with in the business, one traumatic event after another, is an awful experience for any young girl or woman to go through. I believe that her mother was the one that caused her the most damage overall, in her life, Natalie basically had no one to turn to, no one to protect her, her mother only saw dollar signs whenever she looked at her own daughter! Truly tragic for Natalie and her sister Lana. 💛💛 By the way I love your work and all of the effort and research you put into each project, your passion and humanity really does shine through.
I had no idea Natalie was so abused by Hollywood... this just broke my heart. I had heard about abuse surrounding Judy Garland and Shirley Temple. I was blown away by allegations that Wagner wasn't exactly straight and I have nothing against a person's s orientation but... that he and Walkin might have been "dancing" together and Natalie walked in on them and was going to "out" them and that would have ruined their careers... this just makes more sense to me and answers a lot of questions about the odd circumstances surrounding her murder.
Natalie Wood was my namesake, I remember being so shocked when I heard she died. Then hearing about her horrible rape by Kirk Douglas. This video makes me even sadder as I had no idea about the Sinatra C.A. RIP from one Natalie to another. 💛💛💛
Her mother sounds like an absolute wicked manipulator. It’s sad that so many of these extraordinary talents had to endure the abuse of their own parents. We’ve seen this over and over and over again over the years. It makes them more vulnerable to predatory men in the industry.
My grandmother gave my mother the middle name Natalie because of this actress. We are from Trinidad 🇹🇹 and I am a fan of your work , I love the golden age actresses. Keep up the good work 💙
Thank you for shedding light on the darkness in the industry. Hearing what happened to her as a child made me nauseous and disturbed my spirit. May she rest in peace 😢
wow this one was so painful, and i've watched all of your videos on the lives of the other stars. Just when you think it can't get any worse. Justice for Natalie 💛
Her mother was very maliputive and callus, just like Judy Garlands mother. Natalie was told by her mother to keep quiet because Natalie was supporting the family. God only knows what happened that night & what these horrible men did to her. Rest in peace dear Natalie💖🩷
Robert Wagner is still alive...he was part of an HBO documentary last year done by one of her daughters ... it was like trying to clear his name.. I felt like it was total gaslighting..
Oh my God I agree with everything you said, I’m looking at certain people differently now, of course. They will be punished in the afterlife. I am sure this sweet angel doesn’t have to deal with it anymore, I hope her rewards are great because she suffered greatly.💛
@@lillyrush-y9c she did yell for help. Have you ever been out on Catalina ? It is so noisy out there on a yacht at night when the music is on and they are all talking and laughing and drinking
I loved Natalie even when I was a kid. Strangely enough, even back then I always felt sorry for her, especially in her role as Gypsie Rose Lee. She was pushed into the role of a stripper just as in her real life. Such a talent and so used. Her mother is certainly responsible. Wagner is guilty - no question. And I would never listen to or watch Sinatra and Kirk Douglas again. Thank you for bringing this to youtubers!
💛 ❤😢 THIS. New subscriber here. Exceptional content and much respect for bringing light to the dark glossed over abuses of our children being sacrificed for greed…
Loved Natalie and her beautiful, soulful face 💛 I have contempt for stage parents (usually mothers) who push their vulnerable children into dangerous situations, just to chase money and fame. It’s a complete betrayal of the most basic responsibility- protection.
💛 almost every child actor, I believe has gone to this. Look at how bizarre so many of them turned out later in life. I find it so sad apparent would want fame and fortune so badly they would sacrifice their child. 💛
💛💛💛 I have always known deep in my heart that horrendous, diabolical, messed up things happened to women and children in Hollywood. I am forever in love with Ava Gardner and when I saw a picture of her with Frank Sinatra I was instantly disgusted by him. I never knew why he gave me the creeps, but my intuition has never failed me, now you have confirmed that he was in fact a child predator and a total creep.
Karine Alourde...your expose on young actresses and the "Hollywood Casting Couch" are very intriguing. I had no idea about any of these actresses and female entertainers. Will definitely continue to follow.
💛 My mom was going to name my brother Natalie after Natalie Wood & I always loved the name and ended up naming my second daughter Natalie. And now learning about Miss Wood. Such a tragic but interesting life. She was so beautiful. And you’re right, even with shows I watched as a kid on Nickelodeon and seeing how those actors lives have played out and how their parents used them.. it makes me not want to watch or support. Looking forward to your video on the Sound of Freedom!! Love your work girl!!! ♥️
💛 What a sad story told with such compassion. Thank you for all the stories you tell with such grace. Karine, you have a voice that is heaven sent - a winning combination! I seldomly have the time to comment but I want you to know how gifted you are. 💕
I enjoy your content...keep sharing. I watched the movie about her life and remember the suspicion around her death. Sadly his second wife suffered the same fate this time in her own pool. It is terrible what has happened to women, children and young boys. 💛 She was beautiful, I hope she found rest with her Maker.
Sympathetic and kindly perspective on someone caught in the Hollywood machine. Natalie Wood was beautiful and vulnerable. Her mother sounds evil and those around her, at the height of her fame, just out for themselves and their own ends. One of Hollywood's sadder and more destructive histories.
This was awesome as always! Can you do one on Carmen DellOrefice , the oldest super model who still walks the runway at over 90 years old! Thank you for your work. I binge watch your channel!
Great job Karine!!!! I am.a fan of Natalie Wood. FYI, Natalie did speak Russian throughout her life. She and R.J. Wagner went to Russia in the late 70s, so that she could master the language better, for her 1979 movie Meteor. Also, Edward G. Robinson spoke Russian and they would speak the language together.
In the early 1970s, I visited the Chicago Museum of Art to see an exclusive Renoir exhibit. All of these masterpieces were from the private collections belonging to Edward G Robinson, and Vincent Price. Edward G Robinson was a great actor. I love the movie he did when Natalie Wood was a little girl. Wasn’t Kirk Douglas also Russian?
Natalie Wood was so beautiful, it's sad to hear about her childhood. I've heard some of these details before but had no idea about Frank Sinatra. You should make a video about Sandra Dee who began her career as a very young child model. She's another one who had a strange relationship with her mother . She was the main bread winner of the family as a child and taken advantage of as well.
Some were just naive back then, and remember it wasn't common knowledge to the public back then. Only when you started getting introduced around. Sometimes that's enough to get you caught.
Nicely Done K.A., You really are Good at what you do! Thank You ,Natalie Wood was a Big part of my Childhood.I remember wanting to see Movies with Natalie Wood and of Course my Folks Too! She seemed to be in many famous movie from 1955-1970 Natalie deserved So Much More!
💛 I loved to see her in tv throughout her years before her death. When I learned that she drowned, I immediately thought that Wagner was responsible. He always was jealous of her because she was so famous and everyone loved her. She was so beautiful and talented. He never was. 😢
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“I've been terrified of the water, and yet it seems I'm forced to go into one every movie that I make.” -Natalie Wood… by the way Robert Wagner is still alive, I meant to say Frank Sinatra died without ever being called out but instead said Wagner. I don’t care if Wagner is 100 cause he’s in his 90s now, as long as he is still alive and found guilty, he should get his punishment! Also watch “Frank Sinatra - my oh my was his life DRAMATIC..” NEXT
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This is crazy since she died by water ..
Yes. He should. He is close to death and will meet his maker soon…I pray he is ready for it.
I love your videos you should do one on Adam ant
Yeah, I hadn't heard that he passed 🤔
I was thinking he did die a short while ago.. kirk Douglas never payed for his mistake though and her mother geez oh I wonder how much money 💰 she and the father made off Natalie's back... 🤔
This is incredibly sad. Finding out that a lot of these people in hollywood prey on young people is so disgusting to me. Nobody should die like that.
And Christopher Walken was on the boat too. Mel Gibson has a chilling story to tell about Walken
Yea struck me that Wagner and Walken are LGBTQ..I would have never thought. Much less that Sinatra, Douglas and others were pedos...those are the "tough guy manly men" that white men and some non white men have looked up to for decades as examples of what a "real and successful man" is. As well that James Dean was a male version of Natalie Wood...the whole system with it being done and seen as business as usual for decades ...today the world got a little darker unfortunately
@@yaimavol This Walken looks like a monster and seems to actually be one.
Equally disgusting is how many mothers are more than willing to pimp out their daughters for their own gain. This is nothing new and it's certainly not restricted to Hollywood. I personally know a European woman who lived a very similar existence. Her whole life was orchestrated by her mother, including the beauty pageants she entered and the men she was "encouraged" to screw to get her way to financial security.
I also met a man that works with young women who have been s3x trafficked in SE Asia. This person said the number one way that girls enter this life is being sold off by their mothers. Even when they are rescued and sent back home, they're often beaten by their mothers and sold right back.
Kirk Douglas lived to be 103. He was also tied with the disappearance of a young movie actress named Jean Spangler. The story goes that the married Douglas was having an affair with her and she became pregnant by him. Kirk Douglas was a rising star at the time she mysteriously vanished in 1949, never to be seen again. None of this has been proven 100% true but there are many clues with point to Kirk Douglas having some involvement.
Wow...😮
Wow! 😮😮😮
We got to start holding people accountable for the evil things they do 😮😢😢😢😢.
Wow 😮😮😮
She went through so much trauma her entire life. May she be at peace now 💛💛💛
Sadly I highly doubt she is
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Why ?!
How do you make a yellow heart?
She is at peace and very happy now 😊❤
I’m 77 and grew up in the industry in the production part. I appreciate your videos. Poor Natalie.
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She didn't need beauty tips. She was so naturally beautiful. Thanks for another great video 💛
Kirk was probably the one who hurt Brooke Shields, too. She was terrified to say who did that to her.
@cinesanti7 Tell it to Natalie Wood.
Kirk is Jewish.
Wow! 😮
And her mother pushed her into these situations.
You know what's incredibly sad? How Christopher Walken knows what really happened. The days of celebrities getting away with horrible things and getting off is few and far between.
I think Walken knows way more then he cares to admit (he always just claims he went to bed that night and knows nothing)but I believe he was the catalyst to the argument between wood and Wagner and doesn't want to be held accountable
There was a whole dr Phil episode about this (thought I can’t stand that man😅) claiming she saw Christopher walked with her husband something they didn’t want her to see and you can figure out the rest
@@sozoal7604If she saw those two getting it on and she was drunk, is it possible she wanted to exit life in a moment of despair? Or did her husband permanently shut her up?
@majimespirit8421 But that's why she divorced him the first time, when she caught him red-handed in a sexual tryst with another man in their own home.
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Everyone was drunk. Natalie & Walken were talking & RJ saw it as flirting. He smashed a bottle & yelled at Walken who went to his cabin to avoid a fight. Natalie did not kill herself over that. She would never go into the dark water purposely.
It's strange how three actors in Rebel Without a Cause died my unnatural means: James Dean, car accident, 1955; Sal Mineo, murder, 1976; and Natalie Wood, drowning
Natalie Wood! I remember watching "The Mystery of Natalie Wood" (my first intro to her) when I was around 12-13 and I didn't sleep that night because my spirit kept telling me her death had more to it. I hated what she went through during her childhood (her mom's vibe was too off). I am also scared of large bodies of water and just to think of the trauma she experienced, makes my heart ache. Rest in Peace Natalie.
Her story gives me the chills… from start to finish.. where was her protection from all of this trauma?? I can’t even imagine!
@@KarineAlourde I agree! It saddens me about her mom's participation in this and Frank Sinatra, I'm so disappointed in him but also not surprised. Unfortunately, incidents like this happened so much back then and I still believe it happens now. I always believed her sister Lana Wood, a sister just knows. And Kirk Douglas, you are sick, you betta rot in the afterlife!
I believe that during their drunken fight Natalie slipped and said that she was going to tell everyone the truth about Robert and he lost it.
If the truth had come out he would've been ruined.
He was adored for being a ladies-man right from It takes a Theif and Switch.
A cover story of being Barbara Stanwycks' boyfriend isn't enough to convince anyone now but back then it was enough to fool people and convince them that he was straight.
He wasn't.
That was the cause of their divorce. She caught him with the Butler. She lost it and it ended their marriage.
IN THIS TV MOVIE IS NOT A MURDER...
Every time I see creepy Christopher Walken, I am disgusted. He knows exactly how she died after a heated argument with Robert Wagner. A secret he's taking to his grave. The same every time Robert Wagner's in that soft spoken tv ad in a grandfatherly sweater .
Angry that the murderer got away. And that they were evil enough to throw her in water knowing that was her fear! Rest in peace Natalie 💕
These things don't just happen in Hollywood, they happen to everyday people too, sadly. I know. And that's all I want to say about that.
I've never had a high opinion of parents forcing their children to work instead of just grow up, go to school and play. This revealed here horrifies me. I always like Natalie Wood and enjoyed her movies. I truly saddened when she died. I had heard rumors about Christopher Walken before - that he might be gay. But I hadn't heard it about Robert Wagner. This changes so much about that night. How terrifying for her.
Most actors are gay
When I read books about Hollywood back in those days, every single book, mentions underage stars being forced into unfavourable positions with elderly married directors. So to know it was all real is so disturbing
With people like Jeanette Mcurdy coming forwards, it doesn’t sound like much has changed all that much since then
I truly loved her in Splendor In The Grass. It's one of my favorite movies. 💛
Yes, "Splendor" is sadly beautiful.
The same writer , William Inge, penned "Picnic." Also about parents who make controlling demands of their children's careers, obsessed with monetary success. The children draw their own, very modest, paths to happiness.
Natalie Wood was my mom's favorite actress. I loved her too. What a sad life Natalie had, in so many ways. Just think of all of the teen girls who wished they were her, but had no idea of the horrors that she went through. May she rest in peace.
“…..the teen girls that wished they were her…”
That👆🏾Part!
I am so glad you are speaking out for victims. Especially those who are being trafficked today by these evil powerful people. My heart breaks for these children. 😢
Sadly, no progress has been made to solve Natalie’s cause of death! Robert Wagner is still alive! He turned 93 in February and is married for 32 years! May Natalie rest in peace. 💛
Oops! Robert Wagner has not died. According to sources, he is one of many celebrities that are reported dead when they are actually still alive.
He definitely had something to do with her death. At the very least he saw her drowning and did nothing. But it makes no sense how she got in the water in the first place.
Hell will get him
I’m sure her kids are in denial he did anything I believe he had something to with it.
Someone actually married him after what he did?? Wow i am sure the truth will come out after hes dead.
Had such a pretty smile to disguise all the pain
I agree with everything you said, I have known about these predators for over 40 years, when I watched a film, that was talking about the casting couch, these men are allowed to get away with it because a lot of them are in powerful positions, and are doing the same thing and are protected. It's disgusting that we still allow these people to get away with such evil.
We'll never know all of the sleaziness that went on in Hollywood. So many lives destroyed.
My grandma used to talk about Natalie Wood all the time when I was a kid and about how she knew she was murdered that night. I was only around 12 years old when it happened but I heard it from my grandma for years and years. My grandma died in 2002 but I know she is up in Heaven saying “I told you so! He killed her! She was afraid of the water!” RIP grandma, I miss her so much. 💛 7/25/23
Natalie was a beautiful child & woman. Unfortunately she was exploited by an overbearing & ambitious mother who should have been protecting and nurturing her daughter. Her mother’s behavior gave permission to those disgusting men to abuse her. I truly hope one day The truth about Natalie’s death will be revealed & she gets justice. Love her! 💛
What is sad is Kirk Douglas got by with that & we all didn’t know about it!😡 Makes me LIVID. Wonder if Michael Douglas realizes how terrible his father was.🤬 So disgusting! And does Catherine Zeta Jones know her FIL was a PERVERT?? Gag🤢
Yep a bit like the movie She starred in Gypsy !!! She had such a beautiful soul !!!
The price of fame is so not worth it.
Children are like guns and driving license the wrong people get them
Back in those days, most children were not nurtured. Instead, parents had to teach them to survive. And they had to survive as well. There were few jobs for women back then other than wife and mother. No welfare back then either.
She's beautiful ❤️. So sad and parents still are selling their children today!😢
It happens all over the earth and from the beginning. Christ came and was crucified in the flesh so that if we turn from our sins and obey God's commandments we might not die the second and eternal death from which there's no resurrection. Praise God/Christ.
So tragic what this woman was made to endure all throughout her short life, I pray she found peace in death
😢 these stories keep getting more tragic as new details become available. Thank you for taking the time to share this sensitive material. We won't be able to help the next generation to build a safer world until we expose all the lies of the last century. Yellow ❤s
The horrific things this poor woman had to endure!! 💛
Forced to date some of the most desirable people on the planet.... Wagner was so cruel she MARRIED HIM TWICE!!!! (Opening eyes is the real woke)
Young victims sometimes return to their predators
Dealing with the familiar may be easier than facing the unknown.
Nice job on these videos! I am CRUSHED to know the truth. Hollywood is an awful place! Sound of Freedom was OUTSTANDING and heartbreaking at the same time. Thank you for giving it a plug as the world needs to know what is going on! Our children are NOT for sale!
Hollywood hasn't changed since Natalie's day.
Now they are not even trying to hide it now
@CeciB80, I would beg to differ regarding how much Hollywood has changed dramatically since the passing of the late Ms. Natalie Wood back in 1981.
Also Woody Allan should be properly investigated as he used to s.xlly abuse his '7' year old stepdaughter in his loft yet his corrupt lawyers got all charges against him dropped.
The American law society is corrupt, sick and pathetic.
She was his adopted daughter. He adopted her and the younger boy. They and the other children were adopted my Mia Farrow. But yes he SA her and was grooming Mae Yin yet Woody Allen was so powerful that he was able to spin the story to make it look like Mia was jealous that he chose Mae yin over her. He never had desires to marry Mae yin but did so to cover the true SA against the younger girl. There’s a doc on HBO that dives deeper than what the news told us. The DFS worker who did his investigation was fired because he would not change his findings about the abuse. Sickening and sad this man had to defend his job and reputation (which was impeccable as he was considered one of the top DFS workers in NY). They failed all of those children and I feel Mai Yin may tell her story one day? The sick thing is Woody Allen was able to “adopt” two more little girls and there is no telling what is going on in that home.
So sick smh poor kids 🥺🙏🏽
He's such a vile little creep. Paedos are the vermin of world.
He has been totally investigated and completely cleared.
Woody was cleared and the charges are false. This is libelous.
I'm a brown girl (India) and it is so good to see a Black woman killing it with her videos❤
Do you also identify as Black? As Black is not exclusive to the USA. Just curious.
@@goldbars777she said brown. Brown as in South Asian. Nothing to do with her identifying as black.
Thank you sis ❤❤
@@SR77736 The Sidis of India.. Identify with their African roots and call themselves BLACK. The DALITS and UNTOUCHABLES as well. Sit down. This isn’t the conversation for you‼️
@@SR77736 Furthermore.. Asians began as Black. The ancient Martial Artists, ETC..
I think you did a great job with the Natalie Wood story. I saw the movie the sound of freedom the other day, and it was heartbreaking and intense. The two things we should care about in this world is children and animals as both are so horribly abused. I have been a strong advocate for both and find myself intimately involved in animal rescue issues all the time .
If we could just make a dent with those two issues, I think this world would be a better place than it is now.
Amen. Both so trusting ❤️
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We are with you. You could all help by sending letters to local houses of worship to ask their followers to stop abusing black cats. We have a real problem in my area with a majority of Mexican people and their superstitions.
The butterfly story especially is agonising to hear; poor little creature. I believe that if you do anything to harm a smaller, weaker creature than you, for anything other than out of reluctant desperation (ie. killing mosquitoes or others who are out to harm you) you bring a Karmic thing on yourself. Natalie's mother sounded evil.
Girl! My mouth just didn’t stop dropping hearing her story, I had no idea about Kirk Douglas, what a disgusting man!
There is no evidence that Kirk Douglas ever did anything to her.
I absolutely loved her most of all in "Splendour in the Grass" - I still cry every time I see even a part of it! Of course, I love all her movies.
Since her death was announced, I have always felt she was killed by Robert Wagner and nothing has ever caused me to doubt that.
What happened to her character in that movie? 🤔
@@kathygoulden2925 If you mean "Splendour in the Grass," it was about two teens very much in love but his father didn't want them together and "advised" his son (who was supposed to go to Yale) to "date" other girls which devastates her and she winds up in a mental institution. He winds up marrying another girl and she winds up marrying one of the doctors. The ending of the movie shows her visiting him just before she marries and meeting his family on his less-than-productive farm with chickens running in and out of the house; she leaves in her much better car. It is obvious their lives were not remotely what they would have been together. The longing in their eyes of what should have been was beautifully portrayed. It was a sad story about what happens when others interfere. The couple was very well matched and would have had a wonderful life together if his father had just left it alone. As it turned out, she would have the great life his father had planned for him but his family lost everything (depression years) but they both had terrible heartache.
I highly recommend the movie, but plan to have tissues handy. It is worth a good cry if you need one.
she went bananas and her paramour married someone else after his family lost all their money @@kathygoulden2925
Splendour in the Grass is one of my favourite movies. Such a tragic story of young love. Both Natalie & Warren Beatty were brilliant in it.
Well Karine, Walken was there and he knows what happened but will never set the record straight. Thank you for this Karine and thank you for your channel.💛💛🎉
Christopher Walken was asleep in a bedroom. He didn't know what happened to Natalie until after he woke up.
Thank you for mentioning the film "Sound of Freedom". It is such an important film.
RIP, Natalie.
You deserved a much better life.
We miss you. 💛💛💛
Here's a story I know 1st hand regarding her 'mommy dearest' During the 1990s, my mom lived in a building where Natalie's mother lived on the floor above or below her ( can't recall exactly) Anyway, she'd sit in the lobby wearing a mink coat, and would boast to my mother about various things. I saw the mother.. no smile.. Mother said she was strange. Anyway, I was visiting my mother one Memorial Day, 1995 and we went for a walk and upon returning, there were dozens of fire engine around my mother's building and the fire went to my mother's unit- Turns out, Natailie's mother set the place on fire, lighting candles on the stove for Natalie. She had done this before and this time there was real damage. Finally, my mother saw Lana, Natalie's sister, come take the mother away. My mother was told that Wagner had been paying her rent. The building finally kicked her out.
Sounds like her mother was a woman with a lot of problems poor Natalie
Natalie has always been one of my favorites. It's so sad to see such a beautiful soul go through so much pain. 💛
Excellent presentation on the tragic life of Natalie Wood. Such a beautiful woman. I had no idea about Kirk Douglas, Frank Sinatra and Robert Wagner....wow! Great content.
the answer to your question at the end is yes, money isn't irrelevant. And let's be blunt, the path to alot of money has never been wide, it is narrow and usually involves negative schemes
Thanks for this video. Its sad that she never had anyone in her corner her whole life not even her own mother. Sounds like her sister was the only one.
That’s so devastating
i think she was gonna expose hollywood creeps....
Yes indeed that's why they killed her
May she RIP.
It is always puzzling to me why someone who fears water would EVER get on a boat, ship or yacht ⁉️
Love it. It’s like Classic Hollywood Unlocked. Thank you for the time you’ve put into these videos.
Her mom was just a MONSTER!!!!
I heard she was very sinister, especially when it came to money, unfortunately the Ethnicity is different.
💛 I was so into Natalie Wood when I was a teenager. I absolutely loved her movies and when she died, I just knew in my heart that it was foul play. Such a sad story…
Unfortunately in the 50's it was a right of passage to get done by a producer/ agent before getting a role. You HAD to be sleeping with someone to get a role. Marilyn Monroe has admitted this. She said it's either you do it, or the role goes to the next girl who will. James Dean was also sleeping with various producers to get roles. Shirley Temple also spoke later in life how in producer meetings, she would be cornered into an office as a child with producers pulling their privates out at her.
Terribly sorry the Exploitations our beloved Actresses & Actors Suffered along with Humilation. Nasty Vile wicked Industry.
Tony Curtis admitted to this also. He used the "we" did it talking about it.
I love water and was a swimmer since age 3 but I think it's horrible that her husband, Robert Wagner who knew she was afraid of water and couldn't swim was part of her drowning at sea, someone who she should have been able to trust after marrying him TWICE! It's tragic. Thanks for that beautiful biography of a great star.
Poor Natalie was disgusted and suffered a nervous breakdown after he found Wagner and another man having perverted Homose.xual s,x.
Thank you Karine, for shedding a little more light on the topic of Natalie Wood. The truth may never be revealed about her tragic death and all of the circumstances surrounding it. Such a tragedy. To be taken advantage of multiple times in her life by the men she worked with in the business, one traumatic event after another, is an awful experience for any young girl or woman to go through. I believe that her mother was the one that caused her the most damage
overall, in her life, Natalie basically had no one to turn to, no one to protect her, her mother only saw dollar signs whenever she looked at her own daughter! Truly tragic for Natalie and her sister Lana. 💛💛 By the way I love your work and all of the effort and research you put into each project, your passion and humanity really does shine through.
I had no idea Natalie was so abused by Hollywood... this just broke my heart. I had heard about abuse surrounding Judy Garland and Shirley Temple. I was blown away by allegations that Wagner wasn't exactly straight and I have nothing against a person's s orientation but... that he and Walkin might have been "dancing" together and Natalie walked in on them and was going to "out" them and that would have ruined their careers... this just makes more sense to me and answers a lot of questions about the odd circumstances surrounding her murder.
This is all new news to me, however it does make more sense she was thrown in the water since she was terrified of water.
And their mothers put them in those positions?
Natalie Wood was my namesake, I remember being so shocked when I heard she died. Then hearing about her horrible rape by Kirk Douglas. This video makes me even sadder as I had no idea about the Sinatra C.A. RIP from one Natalie to another. 💛💛💛
Her mother sounds like an absolute wicked manipulator. It’s sad that so many of these extraordinary talents had to endure the abuse of their own parents. We’ve seen this over and over and over again over the years. It makes them more vulnerable to predatory men in the industry.
Thank you for telling her story and for mentioning the movie "Sound of Freedom"!
My grandmother gave my mother the middle name Natalie because of this actress. We are from Trinidad 🇹🇹 and I am a fan of your work , I love the golden age actresses. Keep up the good work 💙
Thank you for shedding light on the darkness in the industry. Hearing what happened to her as a child made me nauseous and disturbed my spirit. May she rest in peace 😢
💛💛💛💛💛 May Peace be with Natalie and everyone who doesn’t speak about the battles they’ve fought.
wow this one was so painful, and i've watched all of your videos on the lives of the other stars. Just when you think it can't get any worse. Justice for Natalie 💛
Her mother was very maliputive and callus, just like Judy Garlands mother. Natalie was told by her mother to keep quiet because Natalie was supporting the family. God only knows what happened that night & what these horrible men did to her. Rest in peace dear Natalie💖🩷
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Rest in peace Natalie.
God only knows what you went through...😔
💛💛💛Great breakdown. Her life was pretty tragic. Her death investigation never seemed transparent or straightforward.
Robert Wagner is still alive...he was part of an HBO documentary last year done by one of her daughters ... it was like trying to clear his name.. I felt like it was total gaslighting..
It's got to be hard for a child to accept that one parent may he responsible for the death of the other parent it's seems incomprehensible
💛💛💛 Well, the cap'n was told to keep his mouth shut. Hopefully he'll lollygag all the information out soon.
Captain wanted to live but guilt got the best of him later thinking about that poor woman and how she died
So sad! She was beaten & thrown into the sea. I loved her movies. My fav: Gypsy
Oh my God I agree with everything you said, I’m looking at certain people differently now, of course. They will be punished in the afterlife. I am sure this sweet angel doesn’t have to deal with it anymore, I hope her rewards are great because she suffered greatly.💛
Sound of Freedom is heartbreaking, but also eye opening. I highly recommend seeing it as well. Awareness saves lives!
I really look forward to your videos each week. I love learning about vintage makeup tips and tricks these stars used.
teach your children to swim 💫
I agree
-Not that wolves swim, but you get the gist…
but if you cant get out of the cold water, even a swimmer would pass out
@brittalbach416
Still she could have swam to another boat or gotten closer & yelled for help. There were other ppl on their boats.
@@lillyrush-y9c she did yell for help. Have you ever been out on Catalina ? It is so noisy out there on a yacht at night when the music is on and they are all talking and laughing and drinking
I loved Natalie even when I was a kid. Strangely enough, even back then I always felt sorry for her, especially in her role as Gypsie Rose Lee. She was pushed into the role of a stripper just as in her real life. Such a talent and so used. Her mother is certainly responsible. Wagner is guilty - no question. And I would never listen to or watch Sinatra and Kirk Douglas again. Thank you for bringing this to youtubers!
Yes me too I understand your feelings. I feel so naive listening to this love from Scotland
💛 Karine, your videos are awesome! I also can no longer watch classic Christmas films with child actors. Very tragic.
💛 ❤😢 THIS. New subscriber here. Exceptional content and much respect for bringing light to the dark glossed over abuses of our children being sacrificed for greed…
It's quite eye-opening that some people would do anything for fame. In some strange ways, the present often mirrors the past. 💛
Very good video, informative and thoughtful. I have never believed it was a boating accident but more along the lines of murder. 💛
Loved Natalie and her beautiful, soulful face 💛 I have contempt for stage parents (usually mothers) who push their vulnerable children into dangerous situations, just to chase money and fame. It’s a complete betrayal of the most basic responsibility- protection.
Sad that entertainers and people in Hollywood were abused for fame and fortune. 😱
Poor Natalie her life behind the scenes was atrocious and deplorable. Those demonic criminals made her life so frightening
SHE HAD TWO DAUGHTERS AND A BEAUTIFUL LIFE AFTER A COMPLEX THINGS...
💛 almost every child actor, I believe has gone to this. Look at how bizarre so many of them turned out later in life. I find it so sad apparent would want fame and fortune so badly they would sacrifice their child. 💛
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I have always known deep in my heart that horrendous, diabolical, messed up things happened to women and children in Hollywood. I am forever in love with Ava Gardner and when I saw a picture of her with Frank Sinatra I was instantly disgusted by him. I never knew why he gave me the creeps, but my intuition has never failed me, now you have confirmed that he was in fact a child predator and a total creep.
Girl you are brilliant!! I find the music quite distracting, I applaud you for supporting your brother. xox
She looks like a very sweet beautiful woman, may she rest in peace. I hope whoever is responsible for her murder gets what they deserve. 💛
Karine Alourde...your expose on young actresses and the "Hollywood Casting Couch" are very intriguing. I had no idea about any of these actresses and female entertainers. Will definitely continue to follow.
I love your videos and appreciate the fact that you are unbiased and brave to make some disclosures regarding Hollywood and children.
💛 Thank you for mentioning The Sound of Freedom!
💛 My mom was going to name my brother Natalie after Natalie Wood & I always loved the name and ended up naming my second daughter Natalie. And now learning about Miss Wood. Such a tragic but interesting life. She was so beautiful. And you’re right, even with shows I watched as a kid on Nickelodeon and seeing how those actors lives have played out and how their parents used them.. it makes me not want to watch or support. Looking forward to your video on the Sound of Freedom!! Love your work girl!!! ♥️
💛 What a sad story told with such compassion. Thank you for all the stories you tell with such grace. Karine, you have a voice that is heaven sent - a winning combination! I seldomly have the time to comment but I want you to know how gifted you are. 💕
I agree with you Karine. I cant watch most movies or listen to certain artist anymore. The enertainment industry is sick!.
I enjoy your content...keep sharing. I watched the movie about her life and remember the suspicion around her death. Sadly his second wife suffered the same fate this time in her own pool. It is terrible what has happened to women, children and young boys. 💛 She was beautiful, I hope she found rest with her Maker.
The one & only Ms Natalie Woods. A great & gifted actress. Rest in perfect peace. 🙏.
Sympathetic and kindly perspective on someone caught in the Hollywood machine. Natalie Wood was beautiful and vulnerable. Her mother sounds evil and those around her, at the height of her fame, just out for themselves and their own ends. One of Hollywood's sadder and more destructive histories.
This was awesome as always! Can you do one on Carmen DellOrefice , the oldest super model who still walks the runway at over 90 years old!
Thank you for your work. I binge watch your channel!
Carmen’s accountant stole all of her money
@@jrmetmoi You gotta watch them they got Issac Hayes too
I enjoyed your Natalie Wood video Karine. I was nine when Natalie Wood tragically died back in Nov 1981, I like the score for the video. Take care.
Great job Karine!!!! I am.a fan of Natalie Wood.
FYI, Natalie did speak Russian throughout her life. She and R.J. Wagner went to Russia in the late 70s, so that she could master the language better, for her 1979 movie Meteor.
Also, Edward G. Robinson spoke Russian and they would speak the language together.
In the early 1970s, I visited the Chicago Museum of Art to see an exclusive Renoir exhibit. All of these masterpieces were from the private collections belonging to Edward G Robinson, and Vincent Price. Edward G Robinson was a great actor. I love the movie he did when Natalie Wood was a little girl.
Wasn’t Kirk Douglas also Russian?
💛 Nice that you mentioned Sound of Freedom - watching it next week!
Natalie Wood was so beautiful, it's sad to hear about her childhood. I've heard some of these details before but had no idea about Frank Sinatra. You should make a video about Sandra Dee who began her career as a very young child model. She's another one who had a strange relationship with her mother . She was the main bread winner of the family as a child and taken advantage of as well.
Awesome video. Yellow is my favorite color. It saddens me that this stuff is still going on today. Whats worse is they don't hide it anymore.
Women knew not to become actresses. They knew what was expected of them back then. The casting couch was not a myth.
The casting couch is still going on.
Some were just naive back then, and remember it wasn't common knowledge to the public back then. Only when you started getting introduced around. Sometimes that's enough to get you caught.
@@vickster4474 It's terrible that some actresses had to sleep with producers and directors just to get roles in television and the movies.
@@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc I agree but a lot of them had to do much more
Sadly, the casting couch wasn't and isn't only for women. It's an equal opportunity employer.
Nicely Done K.A., You really are Good at what you do! Thank You ,Natalie Wood was a Big part of my Childhood.I remember wanting to see Movies with Natalie Wood and of Course my Folks Too! She seemed to be in many famous movie from 1955-1970 Natalie deserved So Much More!
💛 I loved to see her in tv throughout her years before her death. When I learned that she drowned, I immediately thought that Wagner was responsible. He always was jealous of her because she was so famous and everyone loved her. She was so beautiful and talented. He never was. 😢
Great job there Pretty Woman>>💛 Very Know'ledgend'able!! RIP Nat
She was a great actress and did some classic movies like Splendor in the Grass, West Side Story, Gypsy.
Really good videos. You really pack in a lot of well researched material and lots of pictures. well done.