How to Picture Frame A Deck | Composite Decking Border
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- In this video I show you how to make the edge of your deck look nicer by installing a picture frame border with composite decking. How do you think it turned out? Leave me a comment and let me know!
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How did the expanding and contracting work out on the flush mitre corners of the decking?
+1 how did the expanding and contracting work over the last few months? Any substantial gaps?
How did the expanding and contracting work out on the flush mitre corners of the decking?
Nice to see LedgerLoks and ThruLoks on the deck. I work for the company that created it. Awesome work goes into it. Check out new MVP line for a general wood screw indoor/outdoor!
You do clean work sometime a guy can get that material in wider planks that will fit your rim joist and stick up 1 in. Above the edge the thickness of the deck boards clean work I like it !
I have been searching high and low for an actual HOW TO on picture framing. You are the ONLY one I have found! So thank you sir! And thank you for great content and making it easy to follow.
You can also put a skirt board around the deck. Meaning, if you use a 2x10 for your band boards, you then wrap that with a 2x12 to cover the edges of the decking.
I use a biscuit joiner to cut the slots where needed after the rim board is attached. Quick and easy and no need to cut a full slot.
That deck isn't going anywhere, solid work!
Your attention to detail is amazing! The deck is beautiful! I hope you're doing a video on the finishing touches!
Cutting angles and over hang has always tripped me up and you just explained it in 5 seconds. Why has this been so hard for me!?!? Thanks buddy!
No problem! Thanks for watching!
I'm having my deck replaced next year, so it was really nice to see the installation of a composite deck.
Nice! Happy you checked it out!
That's the prettiest deck I've ever seen.. Great job..hugs
😁 Thanks, Carolyn!
Elite-level attention to detail on such a minuscule deck. Impressive. 💪🏻
Great job explaining it, the breakdown of the details and reasoning for it makes this video extra awesome. Keep up the great content, the little details definitely set you apart.
I like that you use Ryobi tools. My friends give me grief for owning Ryobi, but I've had nothing but good luck with them. Thanks for the vid. 👍🙂
I love Ryobi tools! I have remodeled my entire house with them and have no complaints. They get a bad rap for being… affordable I guess. 🤣🤷♂️. Thanks for watching!
That part about making the plugs to cover up the screws was great.!
Thanks Bill!
Where did you get the plug cutter? What size?
16:13 Odd how the plug part was what amazed me the most. Very nicely done. Talk about attention to detail.
That looks awesome! I just built a 14x 40 deck on my house using that same decking! I also picture framed it, it turned out awesome and I love the look!
Awesome!
how did you join the picture frame boards on the 40 ft end. im facing that dilema now. thanks
So I live in the upper Midwest, and with that comes extreme cold in the winter and extreme heat in the summer. Composite decking is known for its expansion and contraction with temperature swings. At 40ft long, and the the decking I used being 16ft long, I have 2 seams in each row including the outer picture frame row. With that length, your not going to stop expansion and contraction causing the seams to open up during the colder months. However, one thing you can do to reduce it, and make sure that the seams look perfect when the temperature moderates, is find some color matched trim screws that match your decking pretty well, and screw the boards down about every 8 to 10 inches or so, that will help a lot. Hope this helps your Dilemma!
@Joe Powell temp swings = 1"+ of movement on composite fascia. The first job I did I butted the fascia, and it opened up 7/8", leaving a wide open gap.
Since then I started using a router and doing a half lap for running joints, so at least it has composite material in front of the wood structure.
@@alexfrederick9019 Not a bad idea! I might have to start doing that. Thanks for the tip!
I like how The Fixer explains exactly what he is doing.
Thank you. Been building decks for a while but never had anyone ask for a picture frame until now and this was very, very helpful. Going to do the picture frame today and looking forward to seeing how it turns out!
I appreciate you explaining what and why you're doing things like the flex tape...great idea for all your stated reasons!
Very detail and clean work. Great help tips for me that how to get the grove on the picture frame board to attach the rest. Thank you🙏
I agree to a point. It does look nicer, but for me I deliberately left it with the ends of the composite decking going all the way to the end because it's easier to clean. Another one of my homes has a nice picture framed deck. It has pressure treated framing but it's rotting now because of the debris that falls down that you can't get out. Because I have oak trees that are near the deck I can pressure wash them off between the boards and all the way off to the end.
As always, your work is top notch! That includes your ability to explain things so clearly, while documenting it in a quality video as well! Thanks, Fixer....really enjoy your channel.
Craftsmanship and attention to detail. Quite a combination. Great work sir! Thanks
I love your teaching style. Great demeanor.
Nice! I just finished picture framing a basement rectangular window well. Never thought of using plugs or cleaning out the corner screw holes. Should have watched this sooner.
Excellent craftsmanship. I'd secure that miter saw.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video! It was very informative. I plan on making my own floating deck soon, and I hope to have the same results as yours.
Some great explanations on the miters, was never a fan of most synthetic products for the shrink and expansion issues.
Yeah, I get it. At least with PT it just dries up once and pretty much stays like that. (for the most part). Thanks for checking out the video, Wiley!
I love how you nitpick I'm exactly like that the attention to details is awesome 👌
the attention to detail and the confidence really shows in every vid on your channel. And awesome results!
Very nice! Great attention to detail. I know lots of things wind up being preference. I’m not criticizing by no means. Very detailed and informative video.
Only thing I noticed in relation to the flex tape is, should have continued tape over the edge of joist onto both sides creating a complete seal on the top surface of joists.
Actually code in many municipalities.
Great video
I had this picture frame look done to my newly built deck but took it a step beyond! The "frame" was done in a different color filled in the center area with the solid other color. Looks quite elegant and VERY modern!
Best picture frame video I have seen, and I've looked at a lot.
Thanks so much. Really appreciate that!
Awesome attention to detail, especially with the plugs. Going to start implementing that method instead of face screwing my mitres
FYI, Sherwin Williams makes a product in sausage pack (no caulk tube) of fluid applied flashing, (goes on 60 mills thick, and can be recoated) great for goofy spots. It also can be left exposed to sun light, only down fall it only comes in grey currently but will be coming out in other colors I'm told....
It loooks great!!!! You’re very talented!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Super helpful video! I am working on my deck right now, but I was worried about making the miter cuts for my picture frame.
When I did my deck rather than running the 20 foot deck board though the table saw I used a biscuit cutter to make the edge slots anywhere I needed one. The biscuit cutter blade was thicker so only one pass and the depth and height is adjustable. Also, I was able to remove the printing of the edge of the board with some brake clean where it would have shown.
I install the picture framing and then use my biscuit joiner to zip in space for the hidden fasteners. The biscuit joiner gives a space large enough for the fasteners.
A great tip!
That's the way you do it. A serious little deck!
It looks fu...ing good! I am a fan of you. Greetings from Germany!
Brother, you are a BEAST!!!!!!!
Very clean job!!!!!!
Excellent job
Professionally done
One of the best videos of decking, lots of details. Thank you
I thought you could just cantilever the deck board ends without the 2x4, or would the frame piece not sit well? Flex tape is not picky. It's needed when you have so many framing boards layered where water will not dry for weeks. The notch on the front piece is a great idea. The "caps" are great! How about routing an eased edge at the ends of the deck boards along the end joint? Awesome job indeed!
Great tip at 13:30 about securing the 45 degree corners to minimise movement.
I've been doing this since before composite decking!
Im preparing to build my deck and found in your video very hepful tips. Thanks for sharing them
making your own plugs is legit. hat tip!
Thank you!
Would really like to know how those 45* miters have held up so far.
Holy 🐄! That looks awesome!
😁 Thanks, Gregory!!
That looks very awsome. Nice work.
I feel like this deck is going to stay up for 100s of years, very secure and water resistant!
Unfortunately no, in a wet climate this deck is good for probably 30 yrs. He only taped where blocking was added so the joist will rot first
This helped solved my framing questions.. thanks
Classy!!! I love your attention to detail
Composite decking is the way to go
Water shed and dry out are critical to longevity, I try to add frame fillers and supports for bias boards on edge. Great to lock posts firm on three sides
I found that my biscuit joiner blade was exactly the right thickness to make slots for the hidden fasteners. The biscuit joiner is also much easier to use than a table saw.
The short length of your deck shouldn't suffer much expansion in the sun, and I think it is fine to make tight miters in the corners in this case.
My deck was 40' long and I worried about expansion when it got direct sunlight. I built it in cool weather and left about 3/16" gap in butt joints and miters for when the sun heats it up. Honestly, the heat expansion issue may be overstated in the mfr. installation instructions. The dark colors get so hot in the sun that you cannot walk on the deck barefoot, so that's why I heeded the instructions. Vinyl and plastics expand and contract more radically during temp changes than any other building material.
i watched him rip the edge with the table saw and said, "hell no, I'm not doing that on my deck" seeing as I have a 20x20 deck to picture frame. Completely forgot that I have a biscuit joiner and I will definitely be trying this when it comes time to install. good tip!
It’s a pretty deck! Love your videos!
Thanks, Carla!
Beautiful job, clean, simple and easy to follow and understand! Thank you!
Some nice ways how to do it.Looks great. The only mistake a see there are loads of black spots and stains of black mould. Your timber is mouldy AF. Bear in mind even if timber is pressure treated it usually sits outside of shops for many weeks or months. Mould will get there and when you see those spots you need to sand it down and cover with protective paint. I know you won.t see it under decking but this mould will be still there and will cause rotting of wood faster.
If you're doing a single boarder measure in from the front of deck 4¾" snap line ,run decking was ld , snap 4¾" line on the sides ,cut with track saw then install the boarder last
That was pretty darn good, and did help answer questions, thanks.
You sir, are a man of excellence. Kudos.
Did you consider using a tape or liquid flashing to seal the top of the joists? Tape is made of polyethylene or butyl. They even make a translucent tape if you are using wooden decking. If I build another deck I plan on using a joist tape or a liquid flashing product to prolong the life of the deck.
That looks so much better than w/out the edge. Great job and thanks
You are so wonderfully in love with details. 🧡💜💙💚
Awesome job. I love the details.
Thank you! I was stressing cutting the picture frame! You helped destress this for me!!🎉
This was extremely informative and helpful! Thank You
Man that deck looks Sweet & clean looking 👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks, Eddie! 😁
Thank you so much! I learned so much from you. I am getting a composite deck built and I wanted to make sure it gets done properly!
Thank you for sharing all these information with us. It is greatly appreciated.
A lot of nice little tips to help with my deck job. Like the plug cutting. I was going from the top and it was making a mess of the surface. Not sure how I can split a board since I do not have a table saw, but I can figure out something. I like the screw idea on the mitered corners too. When it comes to the picture frame, personally I think it's better to not cut the 45s at the house like you did. Too me it's a lot of work for very little esthetic value. Anyway well done and thanks for taking the time.
Very neat and professional job!
I love watching a craftsman.
Thank you for taking the time to film this process. It will make my project go much smoother…
Deck is coming along! Love it
Wow I'm thinking he has done that once or twice amazing deck detail was dead on beautiful deck
I'm going to watch this again so I can count how many times he says the word..."NICE"
Wow! I did a very similar door porch for my wheelchair, but your build was next level compared to mine. I have the ugly ends facing out. I'll have to figure something out. Maybe an apron? This is amazing!
When you add your overhang measurement to cut your mitre do you add 2x the overhang so it’s the same on both sides?? So did you add 3.5” in total so it’s 1 3/4” each side
There is no flashing where you cut the siding, in that situation you should have notched the decking and not relied on caulk.
I thought the same thing. I cringed when he cut the siding. Would have been better to have trimmed the board.
Also have to slope the board to drain away from the siding
The flex tape is a great choice. Really amazing how good the Flex Seal products work. That and the copper flashing against the house shows you know what your doing. Great job!
lmao
Copper isn't really a great choice. Yes, it will last but it is very expensive and will not seal itself. There are other products made specifically for the job that are much cheaper, black in color, and self-sealing.
@@scottsatterthwaite4073 copper flashing would be great, expensive but great. He should have used it. Instead he used a very thin copper termite shield. That is not a flashing, and it will tear if anything falls down in the crack.
Copper is a great flashing option if you can afford it, because the aluminum needs a bitumen tape or continuous paint layer to keep green treated lumber from reacting with it. Aluminum and treated lumber cannot ever touch, and that's hard to ensure.
Copper is the wrong choice in this application. It is super thin and easily oxidizes and turns to dust. You are much better off sealing the ledger to the sheathing with actual rubber window tape(not that flex seal garbage) and then bending PVC coated aluminum flashing and running that over the window flashing. You will get at least 20 years out of it vs the max 5 years copper alone will provide.
@@timjansen1115 you have no idea what you're talking about. Even the cheap 12oz copper they sell at box stores will last 40 years. We typically use 16 or 20 oz copper that can still be seen on 120 year old buildings around here.
Amazing DIY video bud cheers! Appreciate the Video!
IF you had a biscuit machine, you could make notices at just the 2x's. That's how I used decking for my rail caps (I bought table top mounting clips by the bulk, slipped them in to the kerfs on both sides of the horizontal support 2x4 and secured them with 5/8" #8 pan head screws). Saved a bundle over the cost of the 2" thick stuff.
Biscuit joiner on hidden fasteners on outside board. Done.
Totally no need to expose all that raw saw to your cuts. Try it and save days of your life that you can play with your kids, or make kids!😂🤣
Love your attention to water! Great advice!👍
Thanks, Greg. 😁😁👍
i love this video very well explained 👏 ❤ur deck is really nice u do awesome work keep doing what ur doing 🎉
The plugs are nice 👍
Always looks better picture framed imo.
Agreed!
Nice rough chiselling with the claw hammer.... never thought to do that!
I love, love, love your videos.
Great porch 👍
I didn't know about the diy plug hack.
Cheers
It looks great
Looks great!
Awesomeness video. Love your attention to detail!
Great Job Greetings from Germany
Beautiful 🤩
Good video. I don't think I would have cut the siding at 10:50 however. If you can, it is always a good idea to minimize cutting into the siding to prevent any water infiltration. If the decking would have been cut instead, your building envelope is not compromised, thereby minimizing water ingress. Cheers.
clear silicone caulk will fix that concern of yours and it wont look tacky
@@reject6853 Clear silicone will dry up and crack over time creating a leak. Building envelopes should not be compromised in rainy regions. Google leaky condos in Vancouver, and you'll see what I mean. If you stop at the siding matching the slope of the siding, it won't look tacky. As per the building code, building envelope penetrations should all be flashed, not caulked.
Only thing I would suggest is placing something between the plug and hammer when pounding them in so you won't damage the plug surface. Especially on smaller diameter plugs.
Love the Ryobi tools if you see that on the job site definitely run
I love to see neat work...nice job..