@@BYOToolsgood job great presentation. What was the square footage? How many man hours for the job? Most importantly what’s the labour price per square. Facia and decking only?
A GREAT video! This and a couple of your other deck videos really helped me successfully complete a deck using Trex decking. I also used the Coretex screws and one thing not shown in this video is pre-drilling each hole before installing the screws. The manufacturer recommends pre-drilling when using a capped deck board such as Trex, and I had a bunch of problems initially getting screws started, screws breaking right at the end of driving them in, and screws not seating properly in the decking. This guy's a pro and makes driving the screws look easy. Trust me, it's not. I wised up and started pre-drilling each screw hole and it actually sped up my work flow, and no more problems getting the screws in properly. So for all the DIY'ers out there looking at this video but planning to use another type of decking- especially Trex- tip #11 is consider pre-drilling when you're installing with Coretex.
Built my first composite deck out the front of my house a few years ago and ohh the agony and the lessons learnt. Looking at doing the back deck and people don't show up for quotes. So, decking tutorial and tips it is again. Wish I had these tips the forst time around. This corner facia technique is seriously impressive 🤩
Absolutely Great Video!! Thank you for all the very helpful tips. I also live in the Northwest (Olympia) and will be installing deck boards over a covered concrete patio. Your a perfectionist and it shows in your work, absolutely beautifully done.
@@jameshermes1845 That's a common method when joining trims. I prefer to do 22.5 rather than 45's. Either angle will hide the joint much better than a 90 degree butt joint.
Amazing professional work looks great, and the plugs just did wonder of concealing the screws and blending perfectly with the boards, and the fecia corner trick is just perfect.
Awesome job I've done the same but the only thing different is that instead of long straight runs with seams (butt joint) I picture frame the deck to the length of composite ordered.
I see you not leaving space on mitered corners, are you not worried about expansion, what decking are you using?, ive had issues using Trex and have had mushrooming despite leaving spacing
I love the 90 degree corner trick, but it adds more seems between fascia pieces, and as you explained, fascia is thinner and more prone to shrinking and expanding. I highly recommend butt joints for the outside corners, silicone caulk and matching paint to hide the edges, blending the corners together.
What are your joist spacings? It looks pretty wide for composite decking. My experience is to never exceed 12" oc, when using any composite. All your techniques look good.
Yeah also Probably going to turn to crap also with all the screws being destroyed with the board movement, waste of talent doing composite, get some hardwood
Your attention to detail and tricks is great. Along those lines what do you use for knee pads that actually stay on and don't mar the surface? I have searched to no avail. Thanks in advance.
Enjoy this type of video. you helped me 'educate' my deck installer on more than a few items. He said to me "you must watch a lot of video's huh. Nope I replied - Only BYOT..."
I absolutely love the way you explained things while you went along. I like the way you went into detail about things and also some of the hacks such as clearing the water off with a leaf blower. The deck I am building is cedar planks, so it is a bit different but all in all very similar. Thanks again.
Nice Video. Just one question regarding gluing the fascia to the rim joist. Are you not concerned by the different rates of expansion between the wood and composite?
When doing new framing the best method I’ve learned is to keep joists long and rim off until the very end. Then you can start your decking against the house and install it until you’re at a point where you can mark and cut the joist back and install rim and do picture frame last. Then you never need to do a ripper. But that’s not always the case if you’re building on a preexisting framing.
That’s what I’m doing on the deck I’m on because the pool and hot tub are both outta square so I left the joists long and gonna pop a line after I run the field out
I already have a 10x12 concrete patio that I’d like to extend. Would I be able to do a composite extension attached to it? The concrete patio is about 5 inches thick around the edges if that matters. Awesome video!
Gorgeous deck and very instructional video!!! I learned alot and am very appreciative. Enjoyable to watch and learn! ❤ Edit: Also, did you do this all in one day?! Very impressive work!! 😅
Love your deck videos. Learned so much watching the last 3 videos. Definitely watching more. What do you put on top of the joists? Might have missed it in another video. Tx
Great video with some great tips. I'm on installing my Trex fascia boards in a couple weeks. Glad I watched this first for the corners. Do you have the info on where to get your fastener system (bit, screws, plugs)?
Great tips. The only thing im curious about is having no gap behind the fascia. Trex recommends installing spacers behind the fascia to allow water to drain. Otherwise youre basically doing rhe same thing as installing a ledger with no flashing right? It'll never dry out.
What do you recommend for your joints on a longer fascia run (not the corner)? Do you do the overlapping 45 degree cuts to limit the joint visibility and still allow for some expansion/contraction?
Is it recommended to land the butt joint on a single joist? How does that handle the expansion/contraction with screw too close to the end of the board?
Great Video. We wanted to go this route for the railing, but went onto the Barret sight and they do not have this railing available. Any thoughts? Thanks, Debbie
For the corner facia, you say you cut a few 12" pieces and then ran through the table saw at 45 degrees. As you turned it around to make the cut does that mean the fence had to be bang on 6" from the top of the beveled saw blade? Cheers
Love the corner idea but not so fond of the butt joint where it meets the rest of the fascia. I wonder if you did a half lap joint there to keep it more in line?
Do you use anything to conceal the edges of the boards along where they go against the home? My mind keeps thinking shoemold/quarter round....(which I would never do inside a home, ...lowering baseboards is so much prettier) but for a composite deck do you have any thoughts on something to conceal the edges where the deck meets the house?
I like this type of video, as you did not waffle on and on and the film itself was well edited to the key points. I find some people just talk and never the zoom-ins a poor out of sync. Thank you.
Your video shows you using cortex fasteners on 1/2” fascia boards? Cortex fasteners are not recommended for 1/2” fascia boards…fascia fasteners must be used. Please explain.
Excellent video. It helped me make several decisions about how to install my deck boards. I'll try to imitate your approach when I make my video. Thanks!!!
Awesome looking deck! The plugs really make a difference. I live in southern Virginia, and have heard that the composite decking gets super hot in direct sunlight. Thats probably not an issue in the PACNW but do you find this to be true? My deck is splintering and I want to expand it a few feet and still havent decided. On that note.. I also plan to leave the stairs so the deck comes up to the end of where the stairs contact the ground. I have never seen this, but I think the stairwell protruding does not look clean and requires extra yard maintenance to keep it looking as good as it can. Have you seen this something like this before?
I would really appreciate your advice . My current 600 sq ft deck surface is 5/4 cedar. At 73, I’m fed up with staining and maintenance and stain product wearing off prematurely. I’m seriously considering a pvc surface. I am considering screwing the pvc directly to cedar and avoiding removal of cedar. As a part Time renovator, I know this would be frowned upon as moisture will/could be trapped and accelerate cedar rot. I want to do this myself and take the easy way out . What do you people think?
Thanks for the video. Great looking deck , and I actually like the way you installed the decking with the joints. It gives the decking a more real wood look in my opinion. I'm new at building decks , but as long as the joints stay in place and don't open up, I don't see what it hurts. Just my 2 cents.
I noticed that you didn't gap the picture frame miters or facia. Manufacturer recommends gaps on all butt joints and miters. Ever have any issues with expansion on those? Just asking because I'm about to do the same tomorrow.
Great question Brett and in all honesty I asked this exact question to TimberTech directly a while ago and they said it was actually acceptable to secure the fascia with no gaps at but to but joints. I haven't had a single issue with it as of yet so I feel confident that its acceptable.
If you’re building with Trex, they have specific gap requirements for maintaining the warranty. I believe it is 1/8” at ends and 1/4” between runs. Without the end gaps you might get water and debris trapped and soak into the cuts then swelling.
Lots of great tips! Noticed you didn’t put spacers between the fascia and the wood? That separation is supposed to be there to allow water to drip through.
Wow, Wow, Wow, I absolutely loved the installation of this "beautiful sexy beast" of a composite deck! I really appreciated your style and all of the helpful tips whilst installing the composite deck boards! Oh, and yes, yes, yes, I would appreciate more of this style of video by and from you. Well done, Sir!
Do you have any videos of install of Menard's "Ultradeck" brand? I'm doing a picture frame, and am not sure how it is supposed to be installed, because you don't screw down into the boards with the UltraDeck stuff.
I have the composite decking with the connectors in between each board. The problem is the lumber under the decking that shrinks and expands over time, this plays hell on your joints that were perfect on day one.
I'm only replacing the decking and I'm not replacing the deck posts which mount to the outside of the perimeter joists. Old school, I guess. Thus I cannot install a perimeter board (picture framing) or fascia or without adding framing. Any suggestion on how to hide the butt end of deck boards?
Great video, thank you. I'd consider using a mallet instead of a hammer for driving the plugs in. With the hammer there's a fair chance you're going to leave a couple of shiners.
Do you find that using this system is easier than using the clips between each board? This looks to be faster than attaching the deck boards with clips, however putting in the plus takes a lot of time. What kind of material are you using?
Great vid. The folks didn’t want a rail?
O they did. Here's the railing video. Thanks for asking and for watching: ruclips.net/video/pCm8ccRtBH4/видео.html
Awesome, thank you. Your work is amazing. You technique for cutting and folding corners was next level good
@@BYOToolsgood job great presentation. What was the square footage? How many man hours for the job? Most importantly what’s the labour price per square. Facia and decking only?
Thank you for the content, tips and tricks. greatly appreciated.
@@BYOTools what is the driver bit you are using? It has some kind of depth collar around the screw head countersink cutter????
Bro, you are on a whole nother level. That corner fascia miter trick is unreal. Looks gorgeous.
A GREAT video! This and a couple of your other deck videos really helped me successfully complete a deck using Trex decking. I also used the Coretex screws and one thing not shown in this video is pre-drilling each hole before installing the screws. The manufacturer recommends pre-drilling when using a capped deck board such as Trex, and I had a bunch of problems initially getting screws started, screws breaking right at the end of driving them in, and screws not seating properly in the decking. This guy's a pro and makes driving the screws look easy. Trust me, it's not. I wised up and started pre-drilling each screw hole and it actually sped up my work flow, and no more problems getting the screws in properly. So for all the DIY'ers out there looking at this video but planning to use another type of decking- especially Trex- tip #11 is consider pre-drilling when you're installing with Coretex.
good tip! I think the best way to handle this issue is use grooved Trex decking with hiden fastners
Very nice video! i do have a question on your 45° corners.. Don't you need spacing there? when its expanding from the sun?
Built my first composite deck out the front of my house a few years ago and ohh the agony and the lessons learnt. Looking at doing the back deck and people don't show up for quotes. So, decking tutorial and tips it is again. Wish I had these tips the forst time around. This corner facia technique is seriously impressive 🤩
Absolutely Great Video!! Thank you for all the very helpful tips. I also live in the Northwest (Olympia) and will be installing deck boards over a covered concrete patio. Your a perfectionist and it shows in your work, absolutely beautifully done.
Crazy! I love that 90 degree facia board made by heating and bending. Brilliant.
Agreed!👌
The "miters" on the facia board look great but now there's two nasty looking seams right near the corner.
@@gr33dyglutton I've see where Trex recommends doing overlapping 45's at the seams to make them less visible. That's what I'm planning on doing.
@@jameshermes1845 That's a common method when joining trims. I prefer to do 22.5 rather than 45's. Either angle will hide the joint much better than a 90 degree butt joint.
@@gr33dyglutton I agree this is the best way to join boards imo 45's are much harder to get together and look good
Wow, nothing better than watching a perfectionist at work!
Flush and matching screws look better
As a newbie I am AMAZED!
Amazing professional work looks great, and the plugs just did wonder of concealing the screws and blending perfectly with the boards, and the fecia corner trick is just perfect.
Holy smokey! This was an amazing video - I learned so much! Great tips - and that fascia board corner - Wow! Thank you!!
Question: why you choose the cortex screw for decking instead of the Composite panel manufacturer hidden clamps with fasteners?
Because hidden fasteners make the job significantly more time consuming, but looks way better imo.
I’ve done composite decking and these tips are spot on. Thanks so much Brent
Love hearing that. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
Great work brother!! I love that fascia corner you did top notch!! 💯%
Awesome job I've done the same but the only thing different is that instead of long straight runs with seams (butt joint) I picture frame the deck to the length of composite ordered.
I see you not leaving space on mitered corners, are you not worried about expansion, what decking are you using?, ive had issues using Trex and have had mushrooming despite leaving spacing
Great video enough detail but not too much thank you thank you keep up the great work😊😊
Very well done!! I'll be doing my Trex this weekend, and will definitely use a lot of these tips! Subscribed!
I love the 90 degree corner trick, but it adds more seems between fascia pieces, and as you explained, fascia is thinner and more prone to shrinking and expanding. I highly recommend butt joints for the outside corners, silicone caulk and matching paint to hide the edges, blending the corners together.
What are your joist spacings? It looks pretty wide for composite decking. My experience is to never exceed 12" oc, when using any composite. All your techniques look good.
Yeah also Probably going to turn to crap also with all the screws being destroyed with the board movement, waste of talent doing composite, get some hardwood
Wow just recently started watching deck DIY vids and this is the best so far. I’m looking to start a small deck project.
Your attention to detail and tricks is great. Along those lines what do you use for knee pads that actually stay on and don't mar the surface? I have searched to no avail. Thanks in advance.
Love the fascia corner idea very nice
Very useful guide, I’ve a composite deck to build this week. Thankyou.
Enjoy this type of video. you helped me 'educate' my deck installer on more than a few items. He said to me "you must watch a lot of video's huh. Nope I replied - Only BYOT..."
Great video, thank you! what was your spacing on the end seams?
I absolutely love the way you explained things while you went along. I like the way you went into detail about things and also some of the hacks such as clearing the water off with a leaf blower. The deck I am building is cedar planks, so it is a bit different but all in all very similar. Thanks again.
You are a true craftsman dude.
Nice Video. Just one question regarding gluing the fascia to the rim joist. Are you not concerned by the different rates of expansion between the wood and composite?
When doing new framing the best method I’ve learned is to keep joists long and rim off until the very end. Then you can start your decking against the house and install it until you’re at a point where you can mark and cut the joist back and install rim and do picture frame last. Then you never need to do a ripper. But that’s not always the case if you’re building on a preexisting framing.
That’s what I’m doing on the deck I’m on because the pool and hot tub are both outta square so I left the joists long and gonna pop a line after I run the field out
He's not doing a cantilever deck it's joists flush with beam
@@MrLee-gf8kb those joists are 100% cantilevered over the beam.
I already have a 10x12 concrete patio that I’d like to extend. Would I be able to do a composite extension attached to it? The concrete patio is about 5 inches thick around the edges if that matters. Awesome video!
Gorgeous deck and very instructional video!!! I learned alot and am very appreciative. Enjoyable to watch and learn! ❤ Edit: Also, did you do this all in one day?! Very impressive work!! 😅
Love your deck videos. Learned so much watching the last 3 videos. Definitely watching more. What do you put on top of the joists? Might have missed it in another video. Tx
Absolutely love this video and amazing tips which help me a lot. Thank you🙏
Great video, I watched several times as I was building a similar deck. Tips were fantastic for a DIY project.
Great video with some great tips. I'm on installing my Trex fascia boards in a couple weeks. Glad I watched this first for the corners. Do you have the info on where to get your fastener system (bit, screws, plugs)?
Great tips. The only thing im curious about is having no gap behind the fascia. Trex recommends installing spacers behind the fascia to allow water to drain. Otherwise youre basically doing rhe same thing as installing a ledger with no flashing right? It'll never dry out.
Maybe the adhesive bead keeps water out? We usually put 1/4" furring strips behind 1/2" fascia
What brand do you like fos stairs and is it slippery when wet? Thanks and great work
Thank you. Excellent content. Will use all your tips on my deck build.
absolutely great video. Exactly what I was looking for. It will save me 15K
What do you recommend for your joints on a longer fascia run (not the corner)? Do you do the overlapping 45 degree cuts to limit the joint visibility and still allow for some expansion/contraction?
This was great and straight to the point and easy to follow. Please do more like this!
Is it recommended to land the butt joint on a single joist? How does that handle the expansion/contraction with screw too close to the end of the board?
Solid tips! Thank you very much for posting. You just earned yourself another subscriber!
Great Video. We wanted to go this route for the railing, but went onto the Barret sight and they do not have this railing available. Any thoughts? Thanks, Debbie
For the corner facia, you say you cut a few 12" pieces and then ran through the table saw at 45 degrees. As you turned it around to make the cut does that mean the fence had to be bang on 6" from the top of the beveled saw blade? Cheers
Love the corner idea but not so fond of the butt joint where it meets the rest of the fascia. I wonder if you did a half lap joint there to keep it more in line?
Where do you buy the cap system for the deck?
Very inspiring! Hope someday I could do it like you! GOD BLESS YOU
Do you use anything to conceal the edges of the boards along where they go against the home? My mind keeps thinking shoemold/quarter round....(which I would never do inside a home, ...lowering baseboards is so much prettier) but for a composite deck do you have any thoughts on something to conceal the edges where the deck meets the house?
I am planning on building a deck and this looks like the most helpful video I've seen. Thank you for the tips!
I like this type of video, as you did not waffle on and on and the film itself was well edited to the key points. I find some people just talk and never the zoom-ins a poor out of sync. Thank you.
Your video shows you using cortex fasteners on 1/2” fascia boards? Cortex fasteners are not recommended for 1/2” fascia boards…fascia fasteners must be used. Please explain.
Excellent video. It helped me make several decisions about how to install my deck boards. I'll try to imitate your approach when I make my video. Thanks!!!
Awesome looking deck! The plugs really make a difference. I live in southern Virginia, and have heard that the composite decking gets super hot in direct sunlight. Thats probably not an issue in the PACNW but do you find this to be true? My deck is splintering and I want to expand it a few feet and still havent decided.
On that note.. I also plan to leave the stairs so the deck comes up to the end of where the stairs contact the ground. I have never seen this, but I think the stairwell protruding does not look clean and requires extra yard maintenance to keep it looking as good as it can. Have you seen this something like this before?
I would really appreciate your advice . My current 600 sq ft deck surface is 5/4 cedar. At 73, I’m fed up with staining and maintenance and stain product wearing off prematurely. I’m seriously considering a pvc surface. I am considering screwing the pvc directly to cedar and avoiding removal of cedar. As a part Time renovator, I know this would be frowned upon as moisture will/could be trapped and accelerate cedar rot. I want to do this myself and take the easy way out . What do you people think?
Should you leave a gap in your miter frame boards? Won't the composite stretch along it's length as it heats or cools?
Fantastic tips. Keep them coming!
Thanks for the video. Great looking deck , and I actually like the way you installed the decking with the joints. It gives the decking a more real wood look in my opinion. I'm new at building decks , but as long as the joints stay in place and don't open up, I don't see what it hurts. Just my 2 cents.
I noticed that you didn't gap the picture frame miters or facia. Manufacturer recommends gaps on all butt joints and miters. Ever have any issues with expansion on those? Just asking because I'm about to do the same tomorrow.
Great question Brett and in all honesty I asked this exact question to TimberTech directly a while ago and they said it was actually acceptable to secure the fascia with no gaps at but to but joints. I haven't had a single issue with it as of yet so I feel confident that its acceptable.
If you’re building with Trex, they have specific gap requirements for maintaining the warranty. I believe it is 1/8” at ends and 1/4” between runs. Without the end gaps you might get water and debris trapped and soak into the cuts then swelling.
Lots of great tips! Noticed you didn’t put spacers between the fascia and the wood? That separation is supposed to be there to allow water to drip through.
What do you use for spacers?
@@nathanberry1093You can cut wood spacers or shims, I use left over composite board and cut spacers. About 1/4” thick every 12-16”.
so you force you first piece (picture frame) to follow the framing (always crooked) then run your field boards off of that crooked board?
Wow, Wow, Wow, I absolutely loved the installation of this "beautiful sexy beast" of a composite deck!
I really appreciated your style and all of the helpful tips whilst installing the composite deck boards!
Oh, and yes, yes, yes, I would appreciate more of this style of video by and from you.
Well done, Sir!
Hey just wondering what you used to fill the screw holes?
Can you put this product on top of another solid cedar deck
Without removing ?
Please advise
Do you have any videos of install of Menard's "Ultradeck" brand? I'm doing a picture frame, and am not sure how it is supposed to be installed, because you don't screw down into the boards with the UltraDeck stuff.
I have the composite decking with the connectors in between each board. The problem is the lumber under the decking that shrinks and expands over time, this plays hell on your joints that were perfect on day one.
I like the corner idea but I’m not sure the tradeoff is worth having several extra butt joints in the fascia..?
very very tasty work :) got my first composite deck to do soon.
I enjoy both formats. Thank you. Keep 'em coming.
Great video. Thanks! BTW, where are you out of? If you work in Florida, please advise!
I'm only replacing the decking and I'm not replacing the deck posts which mount to the outside of the perimeter joists. Old school, I guess.
Thus I cannot install a perimeter board (picture framing) or fascia or without adding framing. Any suggestion on how to hide the butt end of deck boards?
Thanks for the great tips,I really enjoyed the video.
Deck looks great, only thing is if it's over 24" above grade you have to have railing?
Decks higher than 30″ off the ground must have guardrails to satisfy a majority of local building codes.
What drill bit is that, that counter sinks as well?
How do you keep your facia seems from opening up from expansion and contraction?
Yay...new vid from Rob. Think your spot on with Tyler's height.
Nice job on the deck. Question what is the name of that drill screw-bit that countersinking a plug? Thanks
Cortex. They make matching plugs for Azek, timber tech, treks, etc
What will you use for railings...?
Where did you get the fasteners? Nice ...
Great video, thank you.
I'd consider using a mallet instead of a hammer for driving the plugs in. With the hammer there's a fair chance you're going to leave a couple of shiners.
This makes me want to become a home reno RUclipsr.
Excellent, great tips
What kind of work pants are those? I want some! Could you let me know the brand name?
What drill tip are you using. It seems to set the depth of the screw.
Do you find that using this system is easier than using the clips between each board? This looks to be faster than attaching the deck boards with clips, however putting in the plus takes a lot of time. What kind of material are you using?
Great video, thanks for sharing!
Always enjoy the videos man
Thanks so much for watching and all the support.
Great video. Thank you. I've learnt a few tricks there.
Great job! You've helped me out!👍
Great video. Did you use LVL for joists?
Do you a link for the plug kit and bit???
Beautiful deck. Well explained.
very detailed and helpful I'll use your instructions
Great job! You should buy a Makita Track Saw!
O I've thought about it BJ. A track saw is still on my list of items I'll need to get eventually haha. Thanks for watching.
@@BYOToolsyou'd love it!
Where do you buy the caps to match your deck?
Great Work and video,, Where are you located?
Lou
I like the variety in editing formats. There were some genuinely good tips here. Keep it up 😊
Cool facia corners brotha 😎
how can you use Cortex screws on 1/2" fascia? Pretty sure it says 5/8" minimum?!