Jim Root Jazzmaster 24v Mod?!
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Let's check out this 24v mod and how it sounds on my Fender Jim Root Jazzmaster!
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The 24v mod is even more necessary when using a bass equipped with EMGs. There is a huge difference in the DI tracks.
I didn't even think about bass! 🤔 Might have to do that!
@@ericwysocki1659 It's a huge difference. If you look at the DI, you can tell that a dual EMG set in a bass is under powered. Maybe it was just mine, with the active EQ as well, but it's shocking the difference.
I need to do this to my Seymour Duncan Bass Blackouts with active EQ
So what exactly is it doing? Giving a higher gain signal? Isn’t this Something you can compensate for with make up gain at the desk for the DI track?
I have a Spector from around 2006 (Euro 5 LX with EMG's). I'll have to try it out
24v mods are must do when I have EMG pickups. I like the results. I think it helps to lower the signature EMG tone and makes it less sterile.
My rendition of giant steps can be found here. I know you where wondering about that.
@@gavinw5469 👍 cool
Just went to 24v earlier this year for my EMG 81/85 combo. I definitely noticed a difference. A good difference.
Been using the mod with my 81/85 and 81x/85x guitars for years now and would not play a show or do a recording with out it. Glad to see it get a mention.
You use the mod on the X series pickups?? What does it do to the x-series, does it also boost the sound?
Now this is quality content man. Your channel gets better and better. Best wishes for continued success. That last, Hostel 2, defunct empty ironclad Serbian torture warehouse chugclank is dopeaf 🤘
I just got my Jim root jazzmaster and it’s just such a sick guitar and the playability is top notch
So fkn thankful 🙏🏼 for this channel 🙌 love the vids man keep up the awesomeness 🤘🏼🤘🏼
Absolutely in love with this guitar.
I purchased an old Valley Arts with the SSH and it already had the mod in place. I swapped it out just to see and I FELT like I could really tell the difference but I appreciate you doing the A/B so I know it wasn't just my mind playing tricks.
Hot take: you would think if EMG realized their active PU's sound better with more volts then you would also think they would offer that mod themselves.
If emg cared about how their pickups sounded theyd make fishmans
@@Chase_Ryan Personally I am the wrong guy to talk to about active PU's in guitars lol. I have had both EMG and Fishman and I just don't care for either.
You mean the EMG X series?
Edit: nvm I’m dumb I was thinking about 18, not 24.
@Jared W
I'm sure they do mention on the instructions when installing EMGs you can use an 18v battery.
Not sure about the 24v mod though.
I suspect it's more of a warranty thing.
They will probably run fine for the most part on 24v but I dare say pushing that much more juice through the circuit does increase the risk of something breaking
@@Chase_Ryan 🤢🤮 I respectfully disagree 1000%
I bought two of these 24 enclosures about 3 months ago and loved it! I have literally just received another 5 sets I ordered for my other guitars. Outside of the usa you can only purchase on eBay, the postage is a stinger but they really do work well!
I’d like to try this in my ESP Truckster that has the old school EMG’s before the Het Set
Have been using the 24v mod in my bass, with the EMG PJX set, and the BQC System, and have loved it since day one.
I use them in my EMG guitars they are actually watch batteries stacked on each other under the wrapping
I was super happy with this Fluff test, first because (I think) nobody had done it that way yet!
I've been using this mod for years and man... If you get some sample of 81 before switching to solderless you'll find that they sound even better on them with this mod, not that the new ones are bad, but it was really nice of you demystify this mod and how it improves things with these pickups.
This is a pretty cool little gizmo. I might have to pick one of these up.
sounded nasty at the end. congrats
I'd be curious of your thoughts on this mod vs the emg x series.
Big "just changed my strings" kinda effect from it
I love that guitar \,,/ thanks for all the info
Did the 18v mod what seems like decades ago with 81/85 PUs on a Les Paul, sounded great. And still does.
was there a noticeable increase in output volume or just the clarity. I like the results a lot from this. thank you for posting the DI results. It really showcases the effectiveness.
Can you easily replace those odd size batteries with the mod?
I've used this mod on my emg and going to try it on my blackouts. I wonder if you can do this on the emg dg single coil set
I have Blackouts and have to run kind of low on my 2i2’s gain...with 24V that will make you need a DI Box before going into an interface?
emgs can even take up to 27volts, but that'd be running them at the edge of what they can handle. (3•9=27)
i have the 24volt mod in a King V guitar, which i use for lower tunings, and it cleared up the sound and individual notes of chords when playing with a lot of gain quite significantly.
Do this mod works for all guitars with EMG's in it ? For ex. Will it work as well good for 7 string ?
I’ve been using a similar 24v mod for a few years. The difference is night and day!
Just ordered one!
Sounds another more clear and out there if you catch my drift lol sounds awesome
I use the 24v mod live, it does however need a small zip tie to keep the MN21 batteries from coming loose halfway through a set.
Wow funny, I was running the original Seymour Duncan active heavy metal live wire pickups back in mid 90s, absolutely loved that overpowering midrange. I ended up not using boost pedals or distortion pedals for a very long time. Then back in 2004 I put a set of EMG Zakk Wylde set in the Epiphone Zakk Wylde guitar. Now I liked the Seymour Duncan active so much I called up EMG, they said at the time, that yes I can wire the EMGs for 18volt , and they would handle 24 volt, however he said I wouldn't notice a big difference from 18 volt to 24 volt. If your swapping from 9 volt to either, you'll hear the difference, but he was saying it wasn't worth going from 18v to 24v.
I use these in many guitars, they make a slight difference but these A23 batteries can screw up so if your pickups start cutting out/making funny noises immediately replace the batteries first. They do last a long time as log as you unplug when not in use
Awesome guitar
Would it be safe to use this in any active guitar or bass? I have a schecter KM7 MKIII (fishman Merrow signature pickups), and a Spector Euro 5 LX with EMG's
Yes
am I to understand this really only affects going directly into a tube amp, as a plugin you will red line, thus turning it down eliminating the mod?
what about sustainiac pickup , can we use this mod with sustainiac pickup ?
Its about time someone did this been wanting something like this ever since I installed emgs in my omen6. There store sorta sucks though and requires reverb or eBay for orders outside of the US so dated man haven't been on eBay in year's.
I got one of these for my guitar with EMG 81/89. I'm not sure how much difference it makes vs 18, butvis easier to use than 2x9v and takes up less space.
So two part question!
Can you use this with Fishmen pickups?
And could you use this on bass pickups that use an EQ like a musicman or schecter?
It matters how many volts the preamp can handle. Look at the specs or email them.
Personally, idk why you'd want to do this with Fishmans, this increases mid range and high end, which Fishman have TONS of to begin with, although to each their own, I'm just saying you might end up with a black metal tone with about 12 db too much of 5k frequency lol. I guess it would also depend on your amps EQ profile as well. IE Fishmans thru a marshall sound really harsh.
The reason people do this with EMGs is because they're a very compressed pickup. Basically with the Fishmans, you're putting hot sauce on a habanero pepper, some spice is good, but too much ruins a dish. My opinion could completely change if I heard the results though.
No, Fishmans can only handle up to 18v.
18 and 24 volt mods help, but the real game changer is the EMGX'S. the best way to explain it is that it's like taking a blanket off your tone. it's like the regular EMGs had your tone down and the X series turned it up, they're very articulate and clear. the changed my view of active pickups forever.
Aren't the EMG x's 18v stock?
How long would the batteries last with the 24volt mod?
How long does the two A23 batteries last vs 9V in a guitar?
Thanks!
So is it just a battery conversion or is there any actual circuitry happening???
I wonder if this would be a good mod for the Jim Root Daemonum set. I have them in my Jackson Kelly, and was going to purchase the EMG Marty Friedman set, but I might try this first.
How’s the battery life compared to the 9 V?
Anyone know if you can do this for his new signature pickups? I have his mexican jazzmaster.
Any info on the rating for the pickups on Dustin Kensrue signature music man?
Vintage hot. Bridge pickup is like a Duncan JB.
To me the 24 has more kick and it brings out more brightness and more clarity. It brought it to life.
Now my question....... Can you do this with fishman fluence? Not that they need it, But if it can add even more tonal options why not?
Those look like the same batteries for my guns rail light, are they cr123a’s?
No not at all. These are 23A not the cr123a
It works. No doubt
Hey nice comparison! I’m considering to try the 24 volt mod too! There is one thing I worry about though. The typical capacity of a 9v battery is 550 mAh while it is only 55 mAh for these tiny 23A batteries. How often do you have to replace the batteries in the 24 volt mod??
Might try this on my ltd kh-602 with the bonebreakers.
Always wanted to do the 18v mod, but I have no idea how to fit two batteries on my SG lol
How long do the batteries last ? And where do you get them ? Also , D.I.s sound same to my ears !
I have been looking at those for my ec1000
24v very good tone
Can i use this mod for Duncan design hb 105?
I probably should have tried that mod on my kramer with the emg 81 before I tore it out and replaced it with an old ibanez pickup. Hated the emg through my plexi, this might have fixed it
My 9v actually died on me midplay Sunday so I was changing it out this week considering the 18v mod. Seems I'll be doing 24v instead now.
LOVE IT ..
Should I do the 24v mod with my Seymour Duncan blackout pickups?
I would very curious to see how this mod affects fishman fluence pickups. Maybe worth checking out?
It wont do anything since fishmans cant really take advantage of it. Fishmans already have what the 24V does to EMGs if that makes sense.
Damn never tried it! Have to check this out with my EMG Het Set!
Seems to fix everything I don't like about emgs, basically that they don't have the dynamics and sparkle. Way better for my tastes at least, I understand people want that more controlled compressed sound though. Reminds of doing the same thing to a lot of overdrives and boost where the circuits have more headroom and better frequency response run at higher volts
It works great on all emg guitars
Would this work for the Fishman Fluence stuff?
Says 9-18V on the power pins for Fluence PU's. It might work... or you might fry something. Can't find any info on them being rated for any higher voltage
I believe that's an A23 battery. I discovered that when I was looking for a smaller battery to put in my guitar to power A PREAMP.
What tuning is that guitar in by chance
This is a bogner harlow in your guitar. Nuts!
Has anyone experienced some problems after 24 volt mod? I did it on my 57/66 set, all was fine for 2 or 3 weeks, and after couple of days in the bag i tried the guitar and I'm experiencing 10-20% loss in gain.
Anyone try this yet with the EMG Jim Root daemonum pickups? I have a set and I am wondering if I should do this mod.
EMGs can take up to 36V - I used 18V mods for my EMG 81 for a very long time - bigger Headroom, for 707 I have 24V mod (just because there is not enough space for a two 9V batteries). (this 24V is very easy to DIY - you need 2 12V batteries and a housing - you can buy everything cheap online). 24V is very similiar to 18V mod for me... I also recommend 18V mod for EMG 808 :)
How much battery life does it have?
I would like to try
Do the 24v last as long as the 9v?
I'm thinking you'll be changing batteries a lot more often since the A23s have about a tenth of the capacity of a 9V.
Can this be done with fishman fluence
Never ever thought about this mod.... I gave my JR Tele an pickup upgrade to the newer JR pickups that came out... I love them. I wonder if I should do this considering it's half passive/active 🤔
The JR set is still pretty much an active pickup. But with a passive look
@@nimitz1739 ahhh OK, thanks! Def wanna do this then
What would happen if you would use a 24 volt mod on Fishmans
Why does he have no amp fizz when he plays?
Boutta break out my old modded guitar with the Het Set and try this
Ayyye I love Sam pura I recorded at panda studios. Really awesome dude
Wonder if Jim's are 24v
Sold. Just bought the mod.
I need to get me one of these. I've pretty much exclusively used EMGs w/ 18 volts ever since I learned about it probably 15 years ago. Granted I'm more of a passive pickup guy these days but I still own a couple guitars with EMGs. The 24v seems like it just does what the 18v mod does, but takes it even further to where there's an obvious difference even with a raw DI track like this. 9v sounds thinner, it sounds quieter, and it sounds more compressed or limited. 24v is slightly more output, thus louder... and there's less compression happening, sounds more open. The 9V sounds claustrophobic by comparison, you know...if claustrophobia sounded like anything lol.
What I'd love to hear is a 24v modded EMG compared to a Fishman Fluence modern. Because to me, the 24 volts sort of brings the EMGs into that Fluence territory, more open, more dynamics, a little more hi-fi and clearer sounding.
What happens when you do this with fishmans? Fire hazard?
Ha nothing actually. I tried it.
I think emg can take 27v max not 24,
And I just got to say, the 24v mod is really expensive for what it is.( 25 $)
It is just a plastic case that connects 2 12v batteries in series.
Emgs are rated up to 27, you’re within spec
Can this mod damage your EMG's?
Nope
The thing I noticed most was the bottom end. It also sounded less compressed. Much bigger difference than I expected.
There should be adjustable phantom-power for active pickups in every amp, LOL
should be technically possible with normal XLR cables. Good excuse to get rid of these stupid jacks which were invented to plug and unplug often, something you don't want while playing^^
The USSR was doing that back in the day with the 6/8 pin connectors
@@TheDoctor1492 You mean they had phantom power for active pickups? Or did they send 300V to feed an additional ECC83 inside the guitar, LOL!
27 volts for most bass applications.. Have 3 spectors with emg x series pups and darkglass tone capsules running at 18 volts and I've seen people run them with 3 9 volts at 27 volts kinda crazy
Big difference more clarity
So it does the same thing as a clean boost pedal. Makes it louder.
Pretty much.
😂😂😂 I’m glad someone can think for themselves
Totally not the same thing. Imagine going with 9V is like going through a bass compressor+distortion first without volume level compensation. It kinda sucks, you might dig it, but it kinda sucks generally.
I love mr Sam pura
This is great! Instead of guitar players forgetting the regular 9Vs, now they need obscure 23A batteries no one brings to gigs. :D
High frequencies sound A LOT better though.
I honestly need this answered for me, because i've heard it a lot in a bunch of other peoples videos. Do youtube guitarists not know how to chug? The scrapping sound bugs me 1000%