My dad always liked and bought Evinrudes so I’ve always had a soft spot for them; yet, I’ve only owned one. They had a great history too. However my first boat was a Mercruiser 3.0 which was followed by an Evinrude 115, Volvo Penta 5.0, Mercury 115, Mercury 200 Pro Verado, and now a Honda BF250. The Honda is slightly louder than the Verado, but it feels more alive and of course more reliable and better engineered.
Our 2001 ficht is still going, and we’re on our 2nd Mercury verado after the 1st one went out with a cracked crank case and the newer one is waiting on parts
I think it would be cool if you guys did a RUclips live show where people can just chime in ask questions about anything and everything boats and motors and yall can answer. Just an idea
I just don't get the hate on the G2. Everyone that owns them has good to say about them, unless there was soem catastrophic failure. Which doesn't seem THAT common on the forums. Its not like other brands are failure-less, they all have issues. I just don't get it.
Love the vids. Found your channel and subscribed!!!! I'm a Evinrude fan but only owned the 1980-1995(SPL) and mostly v4 x flows. Have been bullet proof easy to work on, Minal issues only downside is gas. They like it! But if you can't afford the gas you can't afford the boat!!!! Future vid idea, javlin boats???? Lot around still, just what's your thoughts? I've owned 3 loved them so far! Love the channel, binge watching it, nice for a no bull no brand fan just real.honest observation!
Those old Evinrude's were pretty solid, unlike the new hot garbage they were releasing. You're definitely right on the fact that they drank fuel just like Sam drinks his beer! haha
How reliable is the Optimax 75/90/115 family? I'm considering to get a 115. or is the v6 135 a beter option? I've heard that i have to avoid all pre 2003 v6 optimax's because of problems or is that Bullshit?
The opti 75/90/115 family are pretty decent motors as far as reliability is concerned. The v6 135 is NOT a better option over the 115 when it comes to reliability and Yes the pre 03 v6 Opti's had some issues. Hope that helps! 👍🏻
@@TeamMarineService thanks a lot! I'm just curious and looking for a 17ft bowrider and power it with a 100 to 150 outboard. And because this is gonna be a boat i'll keep for a long period of time i want to have a fuel efficient and reliable one and the early 4strokes are to heavy and sluggish but the new one's are way to pricey. And evinrude is thrash and the vmax 150 arent sold that much here its gonna be optimax i think :)
Ever done anything with the Mercury 3.0 EFI? Just curious because I have a 225 that has 13xx hours or so and runs like a sewing machine but Im considering selling it before it goes boom and repowering with suzuki.
Not exactly how I remembered the mid to late 90's with Mariner/Merc 2.5L Bass Boat engines(especially the high performance models)Always seemed better then omc stuff,might be partial as I owned a Merc Dealership,but we worked on everything and I just don't think OMC really ever had much stuff better than the Mariner/Merc engines and we opened back in mid 80's
I only have 2 hrs on my new 2020 Mercury Pro XS 200. I haven't been able to run it wide open and trimmed out yet, but I am loving it so far. It will be stretched out next trip.
You said Andy Morgan brought his bullet by he runs EVINRUDE and since they went out of business I was wondering if you told him what he should run next year?
Evinrude is a couple of years away from their electronic outboard motor. Will they do a total retool, will they just slap their name from another company, or be in partnership with one and they do the manufacturing for Evinrude of one of Evinrude’s own design. Secondly, do you have a guess as to possible partners. Thanks guys.
We're are you getting the electric outboard info from? I would like to see them come back in some form . The intruder and fastrike motors were high torque motors and tuff. In my opinion evinrude was best on parts availability compared to other brands.
I was viewing the Fully Charge channel and the host Mike was complaining about Americans need for our “gas guzzling pickups and our poorly efficient gas powered bass boats. There are electric alternatives.” The problem with his scenario is that all I wish to do on a stop is for fuel, to eat, and to check the rigging. Not an hour on a charge every 200 miles. I googled Evinrude’s parent company Bombardier would buyout or partnership with a EU or Asian company in making a competition grade electronic outboard motor. Someone like EClass Outboards, eMarine Systems, or de stille boot in the EU. Possibly sPropulsion in China, or a multi-joint venture with Honda, Suzuki, alongside Evinrude in developing a e-motor that meets but not exceeds 250mph limit of our tournament boats.
I’ve just done a carb rebuild on a 1988 Johnson 88 on my center console and it’s the first thing I’ve done to it in the 4 years I’ve owned it but I blame this junk fuel we buy now days but OMC was so damn solid back in the day. I love the ole V4s. I’ve had many of them.
the small ficht's were really bad But I still have a set of 225's Ficht on my offshore boat. Going suzuki 200's this year. Thank God we never need to worry about evinrude again out of outboard business now finally.
Found these dudes recently. He tells the truth folks!! I've owned both merc and omc. Both worked fine....except the omc lowers. They are crap on a performance rig, but run ok on a cookie cutter boat.
Yeah but they couldn’t have known they would have made that mistake, but all the oil injected ones blew up all the time, but the non oil injected 2 strokes last longer than average four strokes
the majority of FICHT issues happened in the first 18 months of production or so. after that, they were much more reliable, but, sadly, the damage to OMC's reputation was already done and most people think FICHT automatically means trash. not true. they are actually an ingeniously simple system if you learn how they work. not saying you dont... just people in general!
I get it. Mer is probably a better motor then Evinrude. But I’ve had my Evinrude 200 ho since 2006. Had two injectors replaced but that’s it. She runs great and hope she continues to as you can get new motors anywhere during COVID and they are all pushing 30 k rigged and taxes. Brutal.
I have a 2009 etec 200 Ho And I love it no issues yet runs like a beast on Stratos 294xl also have the evinrude mechanic who worked on the flw tour in my town who pulled the evinrude trailer so that helps but if it ever breaks I’ll probably go mercury thanks for the info great channel
Suzuki vs. whatever. I've been running Suzuki for over 30 years. The first one was a 1989 DT25c, still have that motor and run it every week. And it will smoke every modern 25hp. Had a Super 6 200 in the '90s on a Basscat P2. 76-77 mph. The modern four-strokes are not as fast, but the most dependable quietest motor out the. Best warranty as well. Don't understand why they are so unpopular.
That's awesome!!! With the strides Suzuki has made recently and with what's to come we have a feeling that they are gonna be gobbling up a big chunk of the market share!
If we just cut to the chase go with the Yamaha or Suzuki. We are a Suzuki dealer and believe they are better then Yamaha but both are solid. We are not fans of any of the new Mercury products
I'm leaning towards Yamaha, here in Australia we have a company called nizpro who can reflash the yamaha ecu, as my boat is only rated to 150hp the re flash will allow me to bump it up to 200-225 which would be ideal for a boat my size and still comply with insurance as it is still technically a 150
I would have to say the optimax is an excellent motor. Every single thing on the motor is serviceable by the average consumer. Vessel view mobile and mercmonitor makes the optimax and pro xs motors really over the top. Also the fact that mercury won out they will have parts for many more years.
Lol hope i did alright getting rid of my 2006 optimax sold it and bought a 225 4 stroke v6 mercury time will tell i guess. Always stayed away from evinrude.
@@TeamMarineService the "haha" sounds like a little one sided.. it was just a question. Are you a Mercury dealer and next door is your hated brother that sold BRP? What happened with the G2 motors? (Respect)
G2 ate Opti for lunch and we all know it. If anyone was wanting to push the Ranger Comanche L tank into the 70's they put a G2 on it. Granted before that Mercury was kicking it. I own a Mercury BTW but I'm not a fanboy hmmm hmmm.
It's all opinion. The dealer I had hated Mercury's and loved the etecs. He sold both and had nothing but issues with the Mercury's and very very little evinrude issues. Every shop has their own opinion. My opinion they are at par. Etecs have the best fueling system, Mercury has better oiling. If this tells you anything I had a industrial marine construction company doing work for us. They had 2 boats with Yamaha and 2 with etecs. I asked them which motor has been better. He said the Yamaha are quiet but we're a fortune to maintain. The etecs never gave them issue and they even had a guy accidently put diesel in it instead of gas. He said he would take the etecs all day for durability. So honestly who knows what is best and what isn't.
I had a 1999 200 ficht, and It was TERRIBLE. However, I had a 225 etec, and I loved it, super fuel efficient, and super quite compared to my optimax I have now.
Mercury 400r 104.03 mhp mercury diamond 2.5hp si tambien no es lo que estabas evinrude 300 hp e tec fail 2022 no tiene nada que ver con like mercury y marine si 4 tiempos y levanta muy rapido mercury vs yamaha quien gano mercury muy rapido por eso historia mercury Racing y mercury o sea pro
Comment below on if your a Mercury fanboy or an Evinrude fanboy! (Then explain why you are an Evinrude fanboy!) Haha
I have an 86 Evinrude 175. Its ok I guess for the age not the best performance for the horsepower but no major issues.
Ain't nothing wrong with the late 80's Rude's if they're still chugging along okay!
Still chugging still smoking pushing me right along about 55 miles an hour loaded can ask much more out of a 30 year old motor lol
@@evanshillcoxfishing7929 Good deal
My dad always liked and bought Evinrudes so I’ve always had a soft spot for them; yet, I’ve only owned one. They had a great history too. However my first boat was a Mercruiser 3.0 which was followed by an Evinrude 115, Volvo Penta 5.0, Mercury 115, Mercury 200 Pro Verado, and now a Honda BF250. The Honda is slightly louder than the Verado, but it feels more alive and of course more reliable and better engineered.
2003 225 optimax...minor issues but a badass motor, love it...800 hrs at last scan in 2019
Specifically can you comment on the 2015 Evinrude etec 115 with good compression/233 hours...thank you
Our 2001 ficht is still going, and we’re on our 2nd Mercury verado after the 1st one went out with a cracked crank case and the newer one is waiting on parts
Defently would like to see a mercury vs Yamaha past to present comparison
Deal!
@@TeamMarineService And Maybe Add Suzuki!
I think it would be cool if you guys did a RUclips live show where people can just chime in ask questions about anything and everything boats and motors and yall can answer. Just an idea
Great Idea, we will chat about that with the team.
I just don't get the hate on the G2. Everyone that owns them has good to say about them, unless there was soem catastrophic failure. Which doesn't seem THAT common on the forums. Its not like other brands are failure-less, they all have issues. I just don't get it.
Performance is fantastic. Stupid issues like power steering failures and now an ignition coil failure ruin what could have been.
Hey Andy, one more question what are your thoughts on the new basscat 203 with the champion hull thanks, Carl
We like what Basscat is doing!
I have a 2006 50hp Mercury on my tin rig. In your opinion is that a reliable well built motor? Keep up the great videos!
Yeah there's nothing wrong with those 50's!
What you think about a 2006 Yamaha 115 2 stroke do you think it’s a reliable motor and what you think about there auto lube system
What’s your opinion on the 1999 mercury 200 with carbs?
I'm between 250 efi 2012 or dual 175 optimax 2006 what do you think?
I liked the Evinrude Intruder & the Johnson fast strike. Two stroke greatness. Yes they smoked but they were fast.
#Truth! 👍🏻
Love the vids. Found your channel and subscribed!!!! I'm a Evinrude fan but only owned the 1980-1995(SPL) and mostly v4 x flows. Have been bullet proof easy to work on, Minal issues only downside is gas. They like it! But if you can't afford the gas you can't afford the boat!!!!
Future vid idea, javlin boats???? Lot around still, just what's your thoughts? I've owned 3 loved them so far!
Love the channel, binge watching it, nice for a no bull no brand fan just real.honest observation!
Those old Evinrude's were pretty solid, unlike the new hot garbage they were releasing. You're definitely right on the fact that they drank fuel just like Sam drinks his beer! haha
How reliable is the Optimax 75/90/115 family? I'm considering to get a 115. or is the v6 135 a beter option? I've heard that i have to avoid all pre 2003 v6 optimax's because of problems or is that Bullshit?
The opti 75/90/115 family are pretty decent motors as far as reliability is concerned. The v6 135 is NOT a better option over the 115 when it comes to reliability and Yes the pre 03 v6 Opti's had some issues. Hope that helps! 👍🏻
@@TeamMarineService thanks a lot! I'm just curious and looking for a 17ft bowrider and power it with a 100 to 150 outboard. And because this is gonna be a boat i'll keep for a long period of time i want to have a fuel efficient and reliable one and the early 4strokes are to heavy and sluggish but the new one's are way to pricey. And evinrude is thrash and the vmax 150 arent sold that much here its gonna be optimax i think :)
Brand battle idea: Ranger vs Pheonix!
Ever done anything with the Mercury 3.0 EFI? Just curious because I have a 225 that has 13xx hours or so and runs like a sewing machine but Im considering selling it before it goes boom and repowering with suzuki.
Not exactly how I remembered the mid to late 90's with Mariner/Merc 2.5L Bass Boat engines(especially the high performance models)Always seemed better then omc stuff,might be partial as I owned a Merc Dealership,but we worked on everything and I just don't think OMC really ever had much stuff better than the Mariner/Merc engines and we opened back in mid 80's
I only have 2 hrs on my new 2020 Mercury Pro XS 200. I haven't been able to run it wide open and trimmed out yet, but I am loving it so far. It will be stretched out next trip.
Good luck buddy!
You said Andy Morgan brought his bullet by he runs EVINRUDE and since they went out of business I was wondering if you told him what he should run next year?
We have pushed Suzuki Marine to attack Andy and get him to make the switch! It would be next level for Suzuki to get him.
@@TeamMarineService I agree!
I had a boat with twin 90 fichts on it up till a couple years ago, they never gave me any problems
Do the Merc vs Yamaha battle!
It's happening!
I'd also like to hear your thoughts on these Ballistic boats the 223 I believe with the merc 400 hp on them
We love what Jim Wells is doing with Ballistic Boats! A+
Evinrude is a couple of years away from their electronic outboard motor. Will they do a total retool, will they just slap their name from another company, or be in partnership with one and they do the manufacturing for Evinrude of one of Evinrude’s own design. Secondly, do you have a guess as to possible partners. Thanks guys.
We believe that they will partner up with someone...who? We do not know yet!
Rotax?
We're are you getting the electric outboard info from? I would like to see them come back in some form .
The intruder and fastrike motors were high torque motors and tuff. In my opinion evinrude was best on parts availability compared to other brands.
I was viewing the Fully Charge channel and the host Mike was complaining about Americans need for our “gas guzzling pickups and our poorly efficient gas powered bass boats. There are electric alternatives.” The problem with his scenario is that all I wish to do on a stop is for fuel, to eat, and to check the rigging. Not an hour on a charge every 200 miles. I googled Evinrude’s parent company Bombardier would buyout or partnership with a EU or Asian company in making a competition grade electronic outboard motor. Someone like EClass Outboards, eMarine Systems, or de stille boot in the EU. Possibly sPropulsion in China, or a multi-joint venture with Honda, Suzuki, alongside Evinrude in developing a e-motor that meets but not exceeds 250mph limit of our tournament boats.
I’ve just done a carb rebuild on a 1988 Johnson 88 on my center console and it’s the first thing I’ve done to it in the 4 years I’ve owned it but I blame this junk fuel we buy now days but OMC was so damn solid back in the day. I love the ole V4s. I’ve had many of them.
the small ficht's were really bad But I still have a set of 225's Ficht on my offshore boat.
Going suzuki 200's this year. Thank God we never need to worry about evinrude again out of outboard business now finally.
You're a brave man for having 2 Fichts on an offshore rig! Haha...You'll love those 200's!
Found these dudes recently. He tells the truth folks!!
I've owned both merc and omc. Both worked fine....except the omc lowers. They are crap on a performance rig, but run ok on a cookie cutter boat.
Appreciate ya EP!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Evinrude should have went 4 stroke a long time ago!
#truth
Yeah but they couldn’t have known they would have made that mistake, but all the oil injected ones blew up all the time, but the non oil injected 2 strokes last longer than average four strokes
What about 90 hp range Etec vs yamaha vs merc vs suzuki? Tiller models for walleye guys
Does your shop do any transom work?
Depends on the boat and several other factors
Team Marine Service cool thanks for getting back to me I have a ‘97 champion 202 I’d eventually want to get it done on so I can hang on to it forever
@@JCiurej34 Worth it!
Like to see a Merc 4 stroke Pro XS vs. Suzuki 4 stroke Ss vs. Yamaha SHO brand battle!
Merc vs Yamaha this Friday!
Mercury played a waiting game and won out! What a shame grew up on Omc !
Most definitely!!!
This man just talks from the top of his well seasoned head. You can't beat that
the majority of FICHT issues happened in the first 18 months of production or so. after that, they were much more reliable, but, sadly, the damage to OMC's reputation was already done and most people think FICHT automatically means trash. not true. they are actually an ingeniously simple system if you learn how they work. not saying you dont... just people in general!
Just goes to show that there are consequences to rushing a product to market!
@@TeamMarineService yes. damn EPA pushed them, but it was certainly rushed no doubt about that.
Why did the Johnson brand get push out?
Well we suspect that BRP just consolidated them into the Evinrude name...Why? Not sure!
G Funk Era! Love that! 😂😂😂😂
Basscat vs Champion! Go!!!!
We're planning a Champion vs The World battle soon...Basscat will be included!
What about the merc 2001 EFI 225? not the opti.
Those were solid!
@@TeamMarineService Thank you, mine is still running great, Love it.
I get it. Mer is probably a better motor then Evinrude. But I’ve had my Evinrude 200 ho since 2006. Had two injectors replaced but that’s it. She runs great and hope she continues to as you can get new motors anywhere during COVID and they are all pushing 30 k rigged and taxes. Brutal.
Were the G2s pure crap as well? Or just the G1s?
It's a matter of personal opinion. Some guys loved the G motors, but we were never fans of them.
Do a merc 4 stroke pro xs vs optimax pro xs
I would like to see the Honda vs Mercury brand battle.
How about Ranger boats vs Champion boats.
We will add that to the list!
He will definitely pick Champion over anything.
@@evanshillcoxfishing7929 Haha You know it!
@@evanshillcoxfishing7929 Truth!
I still run a 1988 Evinrude on one of my boats, but I’m a Suzuki guy now.
I have a 2009 etec 200 Ho And I love it no issues yet runs like a beast on Stratos 294xl also have the evinrude mechanic who worked on the flw tour in my town who pulled the evinrude trailer so that helps but if it ever breaks I’ll probably go mercury thanks for the info great channel
Suzuki vs. whatever. I've been running Suzuki for over 30 years. The first one was a 1989 DT25c, still have that motor and run it every week. And it will smoke every modern 25hp. Had a Super 6 200 in the '90s on a Basscat P2. 76-77 mph. The modern four-strokes are not as fast, but the most dependable quietest motor out the. Best warranty as well. Don't understand why they are so unpopular.
That's awesome!!! With the strides Suzuki has made recently and with what's to come we have a feeling that they are gonna be gobbling up a big chunk of the market share!
@@TeamMarineService You guys have been hinting that Suzuki has something coming down the pipe. You definitely have my curiosity.
Can you do a Brand Battle in the 150HP class
Between Merc and Rude 150's?
Between Yamaha-suzuki-mercury, would really help me in making a choice on my next outboard.
If we just cut to the chase go with the Yamaha or Suzuki. We are a Suzuki dealer and believe they are better then Yamaha but both are solid. We are not fans of any of the new Mercury products
I'm leaning towards Yamaha, here in Australia we have a company called nizpro who can reflash the yamaha ecu, as my boat is only rated to 150hp the re flash will allow me to bump it up to 200-225 which would be ideal for a boat my size and still comply with insurance as it is still technically a 150
Johnson made a motor called Venom....nobody talks much about those. They were great...while they lasted or until they broke
I would have to say the optimax is an excellent motor. Every single thing on the motor is serviceable by the average consumer. Vessel view mobile and mercmonitor makes the optimax and pro xs motors really over the top. Also the fact that mercury won out they will have parts for many more years.
Lol hope i did alright getting rid of my 2006 optimax sold it and bought a 225 4 stroke v6 mercury time will tell i guess. Always stayed away from evinrude.
Best of luck!
Yes mercury vs yamaha including pro xs and SHO as well and the older models.
You got it!
Nothing about the G2? It is up to 2020...
Okay here we go on the G2....It was a failure and Evinrude is no longer producing them...BOOM! Haha
@@TeamMarineService the "haha" sounds like a little one sided.. it was just a question. Are you a Mercury dealer and next door is your hated brother that sold BRP? What happened with the G2 motors? (Respect)
G2 ate Opti for lunch and we all know it. If anyone was wanting to push the Ranger Comanche L tank into the 70's they put a G2 on it. Granted before that Mercury was kicking it. I own a Mercury BTW but I'm not a fanboy hmmm hmmm.
Agree to disagree Joseph but hey, the when the G2 ran it did run hard! 👍🏻
The reason they discontinued the opti was that evinrude pushed them out, even merc admitted that. And then evinrude went under. oof
Mercury Bridgeport 2.4 2.5 fan boy here what your thoughts on dem bad boys
They have their place! They're cool!
Idk man, my 2000, 70hp Johnson routinely eats 115 pro XSes for lunch! My boat is super light but let not talk about that.
Add straight from the heart in Andy's way
Is Ervinrude that shit? Want to pull a trigger on a 2019 boat with etc 90hp also 2019. There is also warranty question mark.
We have never been Evinrude fans!!!
It's all opinion. The dealer I had hated Mercury's and loved the etecs. He sold both and had nothing but issues with the Mercury's and very very little evinrude issues. Every shop has their own opinion. My opinion they are at par. Etecs have the best fueling system, Mercury has better oiling. If this tells you anything I had a industrial marine construction company doing work for us. They had 2 boats with Yamaha and 2 with etecs. I asked them which motor has been better. He said the Yamaha are quiet but we're a fortune to maintain. The etecs never gave them issue and they even had a guy accidently put diesel in it instead of gas. He said he would take the etecs all day for durability. So honestly who knows what is best and what isn't.
Had a few buds with etec with american flag....when they ran was awesome..key word when they ran...
Couldn't agree with you more David! Spot on!
Suzuki vs Honda
ruclips.net/video/W44x8Sbli3M/видео.html
I had a 1999 200 ficht, and It was TERRIBLE. However, I had a 225 etec, and I loved it, super fuel efficient, and super quite compared to my optimax I have now.
Well, BRP killed Evinrude so Mercury wins.
True!
I don't know anything about outboards but I do know that Evinrude's are trash!
Hahaha! Well you know at least one thing!
Clearly you are not a mechanic lol. OMC has made some of the best motors every made. all depends on how its maintained.
@@ct1762 Sure they had some gems but where are they now??? *Crickets*
Mercury 400r 104.03 mhp mercury diamond 2.5hp si tambien no es lo que estabas evinrude 300 hp e tec fail 2022 no tiene nada que ver con like mercury y marine si 4 tiempos y levanta muy rapido mercury vs yamaha quien gano mercury muy rapido por eso historia mercury Racing y mercury o sea pro