Great diag thanks for the video. I find it interesting that when the cam is out by 180 the cranking sounds pretty normal. I think that catches people out. I had a cam rotate 180 whilst replacing the phaser on a Volvo once. It acted and sounded the same. I also used a socket extension down the no 1 plug hole to discover the problem, I was just overjoyed that nothing got “clapped” in the process and all was fine. Never taken my eye off an unsecured cam ever since.
These Camrys run forever. I bought a 1997 with 140K miles 15 years ago and now has 372K miles. I have done all the maintenance on it since I bought it. Which hasn't really been much. Very cheap to own and maintain. Good on gas as well. I'm very happy I bought it. Everything is original except for alternator and water pump. I'm really surprised even the starter is original. I can tell when it's not running well and know what needs replacing without much diagnosis. Looks like it was an all day affair.
if the valves were stuck closed there would be little to no compression ,. as there is no air being induced into cylinders to compress, ive had multipple issues where an engine fails a compression test but passes a leak down test( as you charging the cylinder with air ) , due to valves being stuck closed (broken rocker arm or pushrods.
Another great process of elimination. It's not always easy keeping up with you, but I learn something from every one of your videos. The battery posts & cables have to be cleaned up as well because that corrosion is resistance (I know you know, but some of your viewers may not realize). I use 'F.A.S.T.' as my primary diagnosis because it is easy to remember - F(UEL) - A(IR) - S(PARK) - T(IMING). Timing relates to spark & valve timing.
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It is interesting that the ignition firing line was at the correct time for the relative compression test, even with improper mechanical timing. Im guessing that's due to the crankshaft sensor still doing its job of reporting TDC of the crankshaft regardless of the camshaft timing? Great critical thinking, as im sure that would have thrown a lot of people off. A cylinder leak down test probably would have helped identify the incorrect timing in this case as well if a scope and pressure transducer weren't available.
Has anyone performed a relative compression while using the IGT signal for cylinder confirmation to check mechanical timing? Is this a valid test on a Toyota/Lexus coil on plug or is it misleading?
On a waste spark system, the engine will start and run just fine even if the cam is off by 180 degrees. Injection timing will be off but I don't think that would be a problem. The only reason the engine didn't start and run was because it also needed plugs and wires as stated at the end of the video. If the car had good plugs and wires to begin with, the car would have been delivered to the customer with the cam 180 degrees off -- LOL. That's funny because any future misfire codes would indicate the WRONG cylinder -- LOL. The injection timing being off might cause a slight dip in engine performance? I don't know.
Cool I did not know that, but it makes sense. The only thing that troubles me is why was I able to get it to start for a little off camera after I changed the timing, but not when the timing was off🤔
@@advancedleveldiagnostics It's a mystery to me why the in-cylinder pressure transducer did not show a vacuum. Did you put the in-cylinder pressure transducer in cylinder 1?
@@stevenakn1 Oh, I think I know what you are talking about. Not the do-it-yourself versions, but the big ass ones I've seen in the background in really old training videos.
@@advancedleveldiagnostics very good. I’m just starting out as a technician still in school and working so I’m trying to get more comfortable with my meter and it seems like you would be able to explain some good ways to use a meter. Thank you
Before I had this one I made my own which worked decent. No where near as good as the pico But I was able to get by. People say good things about the rotkee one, but I have never tried it. store.rotkee.com/en/ps16-in-cylinder-pressure-transducer-for-petrol-engine.html
I've learned in my 28yr experience as a mechanic is to go back to original problem and recheck!
This is a great channel. Glad I found it.
Glad you enjoy it!
Great diag thanks for the video.
I find it interesting that when the cam is out by 180 the cranking sounds pretty normal. I think that catches people out.
I had a cam rotate 180 whilst replacing the phaser on a Volvo once. It acted and sounded the same.
I also used a socket extension down the no 1 plug hole to discover the problem, I was just overjoyed that nothing got “clapped” in the process and all was fine. Never taken my eye off an unsecured cam ever since.
These Camrys run forever. I bought a 1997 with 140K miles 15 years ago and now has 372K miles. I have done all the maintenance on it since I bought it. Which hasn't really been much. Very cheap to own and maintain. Good on gas as well. I'm very happy I bought it. Everything is original except for alternator and water pump. I'm really surprised even the starter is original. I can tell when it's not running well and know what needs replacing without much diagnosis. Looks like it was an all day affair.
Still rocking my 1997 Toyota Corolla 200,000 and still going strong the paint and interior looks better than my 09 maxima
if the valves were stuck closed there would be little to no compression ,. as there is no air being induced into cylinders to compress, ive had multipple issues where an engine fails a compression test but passes a leak down test( as you charging the cylinder with air ) , due to valves being stuck closed (broken rocker arm or pushrods.
WOW 😮 With patience everything can be solved. Hope someone cleaned the battery. Thanks 😊
Another great process of elimination. It's not always easy keeping up with you, but I learn something from every one of your videos. The battery posts & cables have to be cleaned up as well because that corrosion is resistance (I know you know, but some of your viewers may not realize). I use 'F.A.S.T.' as my primary diagnosis because it is easy to remember - F(UEL) - A(IR) - S(PARK) - T(IMING). Timing relates to spark & valve timing.
A good old car that just needs some old fashion tender loving care. Great job! Thanks for Sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Very interesting diag. That WPS500X sure came in handy! Nice job!
Awesome video. It be the smallest things.
Yeah, a toyota making niche problems is rare
Thank for sharing terrific step by step troubling . 👍. Artie
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Thanks for sharing your expertise and training us with valuable skills !
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Good job and yea those spark plugs looked tired...
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I forgot to mention how all consuming these printers can be😁
VERY nice machine you ended up choosing. Enjoy it!
I have been loving it, so much easier than I imagined!
Great diagnosis!
Very good job aMigos thanks for sharing
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Great video
It is interesting that the ignition firing line was at the correct time for the relative compression test, even with improper mechanical timing. Im guessing that's due to the crankshaft sensor still doing its job of reporting TDC of the crankshaft regardless of the camshaft timing? Great critical thinking, as im sure that would have thrown a lot of people off. A cylinder leak down test probably would have helped identify the incorrect timing in this case as well if a scope and pressure transducer weren't available.
I'm sure he would have caught it had he done an ignition sync with the in cylinder comp test.
Yes, that Camry only has a crank sensor, not a cam one.
@@jalopy2472 Is the crank sensor inside the distributor?
Has anyone performed a relative compression while using the IGT signal for cylinder confirmation to check mechanical timing? Is this a valid test on a Toyota/Lexus coil on plug or is it misleading?
@@joelopez40oz23 Are you asking about a Toyota engine with 1 bank or 2 banks?
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That was a good video
Hello sir .
Great video again.
Quick question can you please share the information on the osiloscope?
Thank you brother
You want the file or info on what scope I'm using?
You make longer video ❤❤
How much labor did you charge for the whole job from start to finish?
On a waste spark system, the engine will start and run just fine even if the cam is off by 180 degrees. Injection timing will be off but I don't think that would be a problem. The only reason the engine didn't start and run was because it also needed plugs and wires as stated at the end of the video. If the car had good plugs and wires to begin with, the car would have been delivered to the customer with the cam 180 degrees off -- LOL. That's funny because any future misfire codes would indicate the WRONG cylinder -- LOL. The injection timing being off might cause a slight dip in engine performance? I don't know.
Cool I did not know that, but it makes sense. The only thing that troubles me is why was I able to get it to start for a little off camera after I changed the timing, but not when the timing was off🤔
@@advancedleveldiagnostics It's a mystery to me why the in-cylinder pressure transducer did not show a vacuum. Did you put the in-cylinder pressure transducer in cylinder 1?
@@plowe6751 yes, it was in number 1. I should of took another capture once it was fixed, but I was too busy to go back the next day.
Where did you get your test light? Did you make it? I've been looking for one with a banana clip but can't seem to find one
Yes I made it. ruclips.net/user/shortsbnvTixlV23I?feature=share
How I know the engine not top dead center if I have picoscope . Because I saw the spark ignition compatible with compression test. Thank you
Guy needs a haynes manual 😊
I'm sure they have access to either AllData or Mitchell. Haynes manual is for do-it-yourselfers. Professionals never use Haynes manuals.
@plowe6751 haynes manuals were for professionals before the internet
@@stevenakn1 Oh, I think I know what you are talking about. Not the do-it-yourself versions, but the big ass ones I've seen in the background in really old training videos.
@plowe6751 your probably thinking of Chiltons? Yeah, they were really good too.
Do you ever use a multimeter?
Sure! It definitely has it's place like checking resistance and amperage for parasitic draw.
@@advancedleveldiagnostics very good. I’m just starting out as a technician still in school and working so I’m trying to get more comfortable with my meter and it seems like you would be able to explain some good ways to use a meter. Thank you
Those 2SFE engines should have a tiny mark on the balancer and cover for TDC also.
Ye I found them after I cleaned all the grease off it.
I think that engine is 5sfe
The engine cannot be 180° out if the crankshaft is #1 TDC and the camshaft mark hole lines up!
The crankshaft was not top dead center.
Good thing it's a non-interference engine.
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at about 6.37 it appears on the waveform that the spark is correctly at top dead center but was the timing wrong?!!!!!!! help please
I think it's a waste spark system so really it is 180 out with the timing but the exhaust is showing at top dead center.
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Not much of a mechanic that can't get a 5SFE to TDC to install a new timing belt. He's very lucky that engine is non-interference.
Dont these use cam timing learn when crank/run and fire the injectors intermittant to start the engine , then synch the injection.
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I so need a transducer but haven't got the available funds for one...
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Before I had this one I made my own which worked decent. No where near as good as the pico But I was able to get by. People say good things about the rotkee one, but I have never tried it.
store.rotkee.com/en/ps16-in-cylinder-pressure-transducer-for-petrol-engine.html
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