Recovering from personal energy... withdrawal from over consumption (Part 1)
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Recovering from personal energy... withdrawal from over consumption (Part 1)
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Makes me think of my sister-in-law who is such a sweet woman is so tied in knots. Has been apparently from the get-go, I mean seriously on medication for depression since she was a child. So she doesn't know what it's like to be an adult and not be medicated. In fact she's terrified of going off medications. When she met my brother the two of them connected over craft, they are so skilled at whatever they put their hand to whether it be woodworking or textiles, but getting off that treadmill? No way. And yet they're not happy. They're almost the definition of occupied in misery. When I hang out with them it's almost like I am objectively seeing this in action, wondering how it is sustainable and of course realizing that it isn't: one of these days, their physical ailments will probably just overcome them. That will be that. Meanwhile I love them as is.
The conversations are absolutely relatable. But there's nothing relatable in my current relationships or community. So isolating.
That misery of isolation is also a feeling to be accepted without condition. We can be miserable together.
Isolated together ❤️
Can isolation be welcome here? Can she just hang out, as long as she has something to say/ communicate to us? ❤️
Love, Love, Love ❣️
@@Ggianni10thanks for the reminder.
resist it not
What is one appears to have separated itself into separate bodies, private thoughts, linear time, special families and solid houses. Seeing how it all is, who couldn't feel isolated. Coming to know what truly is, there can be peace with it.
Nice. My message from two weeks ago still without one like. Forgot no one left that comment. What word led me to writing another is "harshness". Realized that has occurring, not grabbing onto shame either. No shame actually, just a recognition that what this body is experiencing is ok and don't push/pull or try too hard to even have the cat Toto understand. All this body and maybe the cat knows is we are not in Kansas anymore. Softening of the harshness might happen. Thank you. Listening now, hearing so much to resonate with. For example "your amazing" comment and why that sets off five star alarms. Thanks for providing the space for us to play in. No one knows shit! So refreshing!
No process
No plan
Nothing
Just what it is
Just life
Just love
Love and joy ❤
Love Suzanne and thanks to be you, a funny light in nowhere 😘
That's cope
@matw1x yes the solution is effort like building Muscle and getting validated by women 💪
Thank you so much 💓 yah consuming spiritual content 🙏 ✨️ overly focused on every single sensation. ...I'm much older and have been bedridden mainly with chronic severe illnesses and don't navigate tech well....there's nothing left to hold on to including hope. And that is WHAT IS right now. In Canada 🇨🇦 we have medically induced death applications 🙃 my Buddhist precepts are mainly why I haven't applied...examining that belief too. I'm not suicidal so I don't mean to scare people ❤❤❤ this life ends inevitably for EVERYONE. I think that these authentic type groups is a way for me to feel less alone and in pain. I know that's OK too. Much love to everyone
Much love to you ❤
Love and Respect from a neighbor in Alaska.
As a former drug addict I can defiNitley say it feels very similair to drug withdrawal actually. You hit the nail on the head perfectly with that analogy.
Everyday I freak out because I know that whatever pleasurable moment I experience will vanish and become just a memory. I can’t enjoy my life because the unpleasant or not-pleasant moments are there all the time and I can’t find a way out. It’s obvious that there’s no way out, but I can’t just start enjoying what’s not enjoyable. The more I live, the less things I find enjoyable, until it will reach the breaking point where I will keep constantly crying over the loss of joy in my life. Is that the “way out”? How can there be a way out of this limbo?
We're not here to enjoy life. We are here to awaken. At least that's what is sensed here
The problem is trying to enjoy "things". Is it possible to simply enjoy? Enjoy the space between things? Enjoy the coming of things and the going of things? One teacher for me has been food. I learned to fast and break my addiction to sugar... but obviously I didn't give up food forever. But now I have a different relationship with food. I enjoy the sensation of hunger as much as I enjoy the sensation of being full. Food is a good teacher because unlike other vices, you can't just give it up forever, you need to develop a sustainable relationship with it.
Do we actually harm people?
Or could it be that what we so easily label “hurting others” is really more about triggering and bringing to the surface what is already wounded within them/us?
I’m not so sure anymore.
More and more, it seems to me that an apparently sincere effort to “do no harm“ winds up being the most insidious excuse for massive amounts of denial and emotional repression.
Not likely to be a very popular approach given how terrified we are of honest emotional expression, but in my experience, it is tremendously liberating, and well worth exploring…
yeah, this is well thought through i agree. i can get pissed at my dog but its over for both of us in seconds, because there isn't any deeper wound. if i yell at kids too to 'get away from the fence' and what not, i can have anger move in the moment but i know from how they come up to me that it is totally washed away. even they way i get angry they can feel theres nothing in it, like im not saying something about them specifically. all the fear and repression and previous hurt or whatever is why we have stigma around treating people in certain ways,. you put it better. i agree.
Thanks, Molly.
Nice to hear your experience with this as well.
I continue to notice the freedom in being ever more true and genuine about whatever is real in any given moment, rather than some flimsy allegiance to “how things should be done.“
So liberating to trust more and more in just letting things rip!
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@@macparker3549you call it a flimsy allegiance in the picture you have in your mind, and how you’ve made ‘honest emotional expression’ superior. But my mum for instance was trying to be a good person and trying to be a good mum. She was still highly abusive and volatile because of things that had happened to her. But without that flimsy allegiance of at least trying to be decent, she probably would have just killed us and herself a long time ago. As it is we are messed up adults also doing our best and she took her life a few years ago.
Thank you for this, mannut.
I feel the truth and the compassion in everything you’re saying.
My mother also did her best to be a good person. She also came from a background of abuse, alcoholism, neglect, you name it. And she also did her very best to raise a loving family, and to not pass on as much harm as she could avoid or hold at bay.
So I can feel deeply for you, for your family, for your mum, for all of it, for all of us.
What I’m trying to express, however clumsily, is the increasing and hard-won realization that emotional repression, while it may avoid some damage, is very limited as a strategy for how to be kind and not harm others.
Yes, it’s messy to let things fly, but I have found no true liberation, and no way to be true to myself and to others without letting out and letting express even the messiest and ugliest of what’s inside me.
My very best to you. Thank you for your response and for holding me accountable.
🙏🏼🔥🤬🫠🫥🌻
@@macparker3549 appreciate your reply. Let’s face it. It’s all just happening. The stories we make up feel how they feel, we couldn’t not make them up and we can’t stop the feelings. Implying anyone has any choice in what they do happens only because there hasn’t been any investigation into ‘free will’. And of course that can’t be chosen. But when that happens, it makes it obvious we are along for the ride and trying to change anything is futile, albeit unavoidable that we do. I’m just left with existing and waiting to die. I used to feel some joy or satisfaction from at least trying to figure myself out or make a positive difference to those around me but everything is being stripped away and emptied. I don’t even have the energy to ‘express’ feelings. My truth now is nothing. Maybe a small echo of wtf, some disappointment. I assume that will soon be gone.
The fact that we can make ourselves forget our power is a testament to our power
No, it's called being a junkie. Junkies always tryna forget.
thanks!
I'd rather allow it
than resist it
I'm losing it
For addiction, one good teacher for me has been food. Food is a good teacher because unlike other vices, you can't just give it up forever, you need to develop a sustainable relationship with it. I learned to fast and break my addiction to sugar... but obviously I didn't give up food forever. But now I have a different relationship with food. I enjoy the sensation of hunger as much as I enjoy the sensation of being full. I really listen to my body instead of thinking "oh it's time to eat because of some arbitrary external circumstance, like the time of day, or because other people are eating, or because I'm not hungry yet but i'm AFRAID of getting hungry in the future" My body used to give me false signals because it was addicted to sugar, and it is possible my body could get re-addicted, but it's easier to avoid now because I'm more aware of it, it's clearer what that feels like. Not being "afraid" of getting hungry in the future and just letting the hunger show up on its own, and sitting with it for a while and not resisting it has been a game changer.
It’s like when we look at other people, we only see the surface, which looks okay, so we think that they have something we don’t. Most likely what they’ve found is a way of avoiding and distracting from their pain, so we try what they do because we think it will make us whole just like they appear to be. Sometimes they’ll even declare that they’ve found “the answer” which makes it all the more convincing. And then we feel like there’s something wrong because we can’t do the thing they also haven’t done, but claim to have done.
I see other humans as just going about their life as fulfilling their programs. I very rarely hear an honest conversation. It’s always just repeating: the news, the internet, someone’s blog.
It’s like we are walking through a simulation…
Why other? It seems its programs all the way down. Aside from separation being the main delusional mechanism of identity, the simple description of enlightenment as "cooperation with the inevitable" points to something other than our concept of free will. This is already it. The loneliness is identity still clinging to specialness. ❤
"cooperation with the inevitable"; I like that framing very much ❤️
I like it more & more 🏆❤️
That's what you think
Learned AVRT addictive voice recognition technique for alcohol addiction. The "it" you speak of is the "it" of addictive voice. Jack Trimpey author of Rational Recovery hel
........,,.........dont even need to pay attention to get the transmission...........deep gratitude.❤😊
Thank you so much for sharing. 💖
Thanks!
Thank you so much Blair ♡ Really appreciated
Always on time, with the timeless. 🙏❤️
I know that guy! The one who says “even if I cured cancer I didn’t do it soon enough.” It is the same guy who says it to you and says it to me. I know that one. 😂
BOOOM - simply love it 💥💥❤❤💥💥
Love this❤
You know what i find really strange? Our apparent human need to talk. Why do we need to talk to each other and be heard? Animals dont need to talk. Why do we?!! 😅😅
@@Farts-nm2kj Because of learned separation. It is basic seeking of getting needs met. Literally the toddler stage of humanity. Awakening is finally hitting true puberty. Communication happens but for no one.
Mammalian needs for communication is wired in for survival. Albeit not in words except us❤
Because we want sum ass
Great chats.Thank you Suzanne..
So so clear!
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Beautiful
Needed this today 🙏 thank you 😊
I love you suzanne
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FREE FALLLING!
Like #222 😆 I found Ebo (?) so relatable
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Is the story of my life not "really real" or just "sorta raeal" ? ( asking for a friend )
Not real at all
Being placed in front of a TV, being there & not being able to change the channel - is that which is seen on that TV, "real real" or "sorta real"? 🤷❤️❤️
@@elektrotehnik94 "compared to what" ?
@@garyisaacs6526 ? ❤️
Relatively real . Ofcourse. Thay called it the historical dimension and the ultimate dimension. I find that helpful ❤
we are all NPC's
On Day 969 of Semen Retention. Infinity more to go!!!!
What has this done for you? /srs
Chilllllllllll the fuck out bro
Every male needs to be able to control his eja. culation
Nice... yeah benefits are real.. 😊
@@cmcdevitt99 like what ?
25:14
How do u stop from sliding into complete nihilism, and if so, why not end the fantasy. End the dream.
Everything ‘is’ meaningless, including personal meaning. It doesn’t mean that you can’t enjoy the dream.
The best thing would be to run away from this nonsense and start living your life again as the beautiful individual soul that you are
Why do only a few get awaked? The rest of us suffer. I guess its a funny joke too God.
You feel you have two lives. Your awakened self “just this”… and your deluded self “my story”…
Recognise that you are creating this division by putting awakening on a pedestal. You are defining and limiting and separating it. The stories, the mind, the seeking, survival, emotion, love, zen, dao, death, bliss, suffering. They are all the same thing. Really.
Just give up trying, give up making videos, give up being you. Choose death…
Die. Now.
Or… accept that you are denying enlightenment, because you dont want to end.
A lot of self indulgence in this one...
Might help to take the focus off yourself.
What do you mean
Contradiction as content.
What do you mean