DF Retro EX: PlayStation 4 Reveal Revisited - Defining A Console Generation

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  • Join John Linneman, Rich Leadbetter and Alex Battaglia for a minute-by-minute commentary of the ORIGINAL PlayStation 4 reveal way back in 2013. How good was the presentation? What technologies were revealed - and which of them never made it to the system? And yeah... Killzone Shadow Fall still looks great today, right?
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  • @nelsoncabrera6464
    @nelsoncabrera6464 4 года назад +829

    I can't believe it has been seven years . Its feels as if it was just yesterday I was making popcorn and sitting on my couch to watch the reveal streams.

    • @Lonthor
      @Lonthor 4 года назад +32

      Tell me about it. Feels like yesterday when I put Killzone Shadow fall in my PS4 for the first time.

    • @selfelements8037
      @selfelements8037 4 года назад +13

      Quite definitely. It took a bit of resistance for the public to accept the idea of integrated graphics at the time, but look at what AMD has achieved now. Over 10 teraflops of brute force on a single APU. That's absolutely genius!

    • @breadtube_king5744
      @breadtube_king5744 4 года назад +7

      Eh, doesn't feel like that to me

    • @JoshMarshain
      @JoshMarshain 4 года назад +3

      @@breadtube_king5744 yeah I was about to say it feels like its been a while, maybe not a whole 7 years and more like 5 years but it doesn't feel like this was that recent

    • @Buzz_1991
      @Buzz_1991 4 года назад +5

      I played some games like Killzone 3 just an hour before the started and man... It was so good to watch it live. It really paid of.

  • @LudwigsUnholySpade
    @LudwigsUnholySpade 4 года назад +190

    I love the little flex from Richard. The next day everyone left, but I stayed to hang out with the tech team and they gave me a presentation 😎

    • @BlueisNotaWarmColour
      @BlueisNotaWarmColour 4 года назад +23

      I have a secret about the Watch Dogs demo and it's a doozy but nobody else can hear it 😎

    • @LudwigsUnholySpade
      @LudwigsUnholySpade 4 года назад +7

      @@BlueisNotaWarmColour oh god I'm dying to hear that scoop!

    • @StrazdasLT
      @StrazdasLT Год назад +1

      @@LudwigsUnholySpade Heres the scoop: AMD abandoned developement support midway so Ubisoft had to ask Nvidia for help.

  • @adamiadamiadami
    @adamiadamiadami 4 года назад +362

    deep down gets me every time.

    • @peterGchaves
      @peterGchaves 4 года назад +16

      Me too. Those particle effects and physics are super impressive still today!!

    • @mero4ever
      @mero4ever 4 года назад +4

      Same here

    • @skittletoes7260
      @skittletoes7260 4 года назад +15

      OCASM why do you think it never came out? PS4 couldn’t do it lol

    • @michaelshahoe
      @michaelshahoe 4 года назад +3

      @@skittletoes7260 Deep Down's engine was terrible. They eventually focussed on the RE engine and other games. Deep Down may look pretty but it most likely ran as Fall Out 76 or even worse.

    • @SteelSkin667
      @SteelSkin667 4 года назад

      There's still a chance that they'll pull a Nioh and resume work on it at some point.

  • @issen2291
    @issen2291 4 года назад +228

    PS4 is now DF "Retro", holy shit.

    • @logbobtom1234
      @logbobtom1234 4 года назад +7

      Nobody is calling PS4 retro lol

    • @pferreira1983
      @pferreira1983 4 года назад

      Not quite.

    • @ArjanTV
      @ArjanTV 4 года назад

      @@logbobtom1234 the reaon why thy dont is because they still using one .. way till pa5 comes out

    • @logbobtom1234
      @logbobtom1234 4 года назад

      ShadowBocksin perhaps...

  • @Hyf5
    @Hyf5 4 года назад +532

    oh god, 2013 is retro now? i had just finished highschool, how time flies.

    • @dlbutters7164
      @dlbutters7164 4 года назад +32

      For the teenagers at Digital Foundry, 2013 was ages ago, doood!

    • @AidGum
      @AidGum 4 года назад +5

      I began high school in 2013.

    • @mudflap2020
      @mudflap2020 4 года назад +4

      I was a sophomore in highschool 😩... Now i just graduated with my bachelor's

    • @coreyhoffarth2309
      @coreyhoffarth2309 4 года назад +45

      @Moogle Midgar Retro as in retrospective as in taking a look back at past events

    • @zonzore
      @zonzore 4 года назад +15

      Yes it's retro because they are taking a retrospective look at a past event.

  • @KaiSchSp
    @KaiSchSp 4 года назад +233

    PS5 reveal delayed? Lets just watch the PS4 reveal again! ^^

    • @notosamabinladen3523
      @notosamabinladen3523 4 года назад +13

      @One Thou Wou I'll watch your kid

    • @jasonsmith530
      @jasonsmith530 4 года назад +1

      Best thing for them to do

    • @DJVEGAS1000
      @DJVEGAS1000 4 года назад

      When is the reveal. Is there a date?

    • @rare6499
      @rare6499 4 года назад

      Smooth operator they’ve not confirmed a new date yet but can’t be too far away...!

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers 4 года назад

      The postponed presentation only promised a look at games, they made no mention of any console reveal.

  • @andreabeccarisi1126
    @andreabeccarisi1126 4 года назад +808

    Ps4 aged very well all things considered. Currently playing games such as GoW and RdR2, people don't realise they are running on a 7-year old piece of hardware. And don't forget about the upcoming TLOU2. Just amazing

    • @Sephyroth97
      @Sephyroth97 4 года назад +82

      it's even older than that because it was already outdated by the time it came out.

    • @Edmundostudios
      @Edmundostudios 4 года назад +52

      @@Sephyroth97 Ps4 had like a 7950? Was fairly modern at the time.

    • @OrjonZ
      @OrjonZ 4 года назад +63

      ​@@Edmundostudios Cut down 7870.

    • @V3ntilator
      @V3ntilator 4 года назад +28

      I have PS4, but i prefer playing all third party games on Xbox One X instead including RDR 2 etc. PS4 is too dated for most third party games.
      I i want framerate boost, i play on my gaming PC instead which runs Xbox exclusives at 90-120 fps.

    • @bigboyhova
      @bigboyhova 4 года назад +19

      The ram ans gpu makes it age well, its still good for todays standards.

  • @asimb0mb
    @asimb0mb 4 года назад +465

    That Killzone gameplay still looks absolutely gorgeous. I remember being blown away when I first saw it.

    • @ArtrexisLives
      @ArtrexisLives 4 года назад +3

      @@RagingUtai Agreed. That KZ2 trailer floored me.

    • @tipoomaster
      @tipoomaster 4 года назад +26

      And as the story goes, most of that was built expecting 4GB of GDDR5 rather than the 8 it later got. Sure the game's beauty was only skin deep, but I hope they eventually reboot Killzone.

    • @peterfox6159
      @peterfox6159 4 года назад +8

      I really think GG is such a great studio and both of their PS4 titles are absolutely gorgeous! To me, "Killzone: Shadow Fall" still is the most beautiful shooter on PS4. But I am not really a shooter game aficionado. And if Crytec had made a 4th Crysis title I would put t in 2nd place. But it is really, really beautiful!

    • @NicolasSilvaVasault
      @NicolasSilvaVasault 4 года назад +6

      killzone shadow fall still holds up pretty well even today

    • @AaronRoydhouse
      @AaronRoydhouse 4 года назад +5

      The Killzone intro and the first missions with that open level were amazing. The need to actually have a strategy as a player, rather than just follow-the-corridor was a breath of fresh air. I felt it dropped off heavily after that with uninspired paint-by-numbers stages to pad it out to a full game. I guess after they did the amazing work on the beginning and had no time left to make the launch date and rushed out the rest. I wish they had had another year to make a whole game to the quality of the beginning.

  • @TxMondrey
    @TxMondrey 4 года назад +209

    “Where does the name come from”. Richard -“Well who knows and who cares” priceless 😂😂

    • @Bones_
      @Bones_ 4 года назад +17

      I think we can all assume that the name comes from Knack making himself larger by assimilating many "knick knacks" and then they just truncated it into knack. Richard's answer is still better though.

    • @TommyVercettisGamingNews
      @TommyVercettisGamingNews 4 года назад

      Knack! Who knows and who cares.

    • @daringintrovert
      @daringintrovert 4 года назад +3

      Unlocked Richard is the best Richard

  • @HorseheadNebula85
    @HorseheadNebula85 4 года назад +177

    "It's only taken us 48 minutes to get here..."
    Rich cracks me up!

    • @tipoomaster
      @tipoomaster 4 года назад +23

      Richard 'Enough of this Levity' Leadbetter

  • @TVideoCZ
    @TVideoCZ 4 года назад +110

    I made it until the end, it was nice to see it again after so many years.

  • @karbonianload
    @karbonianload 4 года назад +98

    Let's go a 2+ hour DF video uploaded just in time to stop me from doing any work, thank you DF

    • @WeeWeeJumbo
      @WeeWeeJumbo 4 года назад +4

      Karbonian Load this feels like a surprise gift. The twenty dollars you forgot you had

  • @kingotime8977
    @kingotime8977 4 года назад +54

    They've made it until 49:23 before mentioning Crysis!

  • @benthompson8878
    @benthompson8878 4 года назад +107

    A Brit, a German, and an American walk into an e3 conference.

    • @randyrrs7028
      @randyrrs7028 5 месяцев назад

      Who's the brit and the german?

    • @Chevelle3_
      @Chevelle3_ 4 месяца назад

      rich is a brit and alex is german​@@randyrrs7028

  • @kylerclarke2689
    @kylerclarke2689 4 года назад +82

    I love how much fun you guys seem to have with these things. The Mark Cerny (Cerni?) ASMR had me close to tears from laughing

    • @Ample17
      @Ample17 4 года назад +3

      Cerny :)

  • @2rue
    @2rue 3 года назад +46

    Mark Cerny is really happy to finally present the work he has done. He seems genuinely excited, nothing like a business presenter.

  • @newbielives
    @newbielives 4 года назад +65

    Lol killzone is getting me hyped all over again for a console I already have

    • @michaelmonstar4276
      @michaelmonstar4276 4 года назад

      I know! - Good thing I only got it late last year and I have yet to play Shadow Fall... Yea, I live 6 years ago. XD
      I have no excuse other than that PC (and life) kept me busy. - But hey, I just finished 'The Last of Us' yesterday, despite having played "Uncharted" a decade ago. I'm not complaining, still enjoyed it. Videogames are meant to live on.

    • @excitedaboutlearning1639
      @excitedaboutlearning1639 3 года назад +1

      @@michaelmonstar4276 My favorite game of the PS4 generation is Metal Gear Solid V. I got into the franchise, but I still haven't finished MGS: Peace Walker. I haven't even started MGS2, 3 or 4. I'm hyped up for them. They're old games. MGS4 came out 12 years ago.
      Don't worry about being late to the generation. There's amazing games to play!

  • @MI2Dragon86
    @MI2Dragon86 4 года назад +135

    These videos REALLY make you FEEL like you have friends.

    • @ben-2368
      @ben-2368 3 года назад +21

      Let’s be honest that’s why we’re all here.

    • @StrazdasLT
      @StrazdasLT Год назад +5

      @@ben-2368 Im here because DF guys are walking encyclopedias when it comes to videogames.

  • @abrahamj15
    @abrahamj15 4 года назад +56

    Mark cerny is the weirdest dude I have come to admire.

    • @johndesper9425
      @johndesper9425 4 года назад

      What's weird about him apart from his outward appearance?

    • @warren3409
      @warren3409 4 года назад

      Yea.....whats weird about him?

    • @bearpuns5910
      @bearpuns5910 4 года назад +2

      *Mark Sony

    • @teehundeart
      @teehundeart 4 года назад +2

      @@johndesper9425 Knack

    • @campos3452
      @campos3452 4 года назад +1

      Pretty much SONY’s Shigeru Miyamoto San

  • @aninfinitemindofmusicandreams
    @aninfinitemindofmusicandreams 4 года назад +20

    This decade has been such a blur for me that the PS4 reveal feels like yesterday. Some part of me finds it surreal that it's 2020, and not the middle of the 2010s still. Is it just me with a terrible grasp of time? Anywho, carry on.

    • @TheScure
      @TheScure 4 года назад +9

      I have the same feeling, it's interesting. 2000-2010 felt so much longer, maybe this is how it feels when you start to grow up.

    • @aninfinitemindofmusicandreams
      @aninfinitemindofmusicandreams 4 года назад +4

      @@TheScure Interesting indeed. I'm sure there's some mundane scientific explanation about how our perception of time changes with age and how our memory also skews it, but it's still a very surreal feeling. I feel like I've spent 3 years into the decade in the place of 10, like I'm still in 2013 waiting for Black Flag and KZ Shadow Fall to be released. Haha.

    • @JJSideshowBob
      @JJSideshowBob 4 года назад +2

      It is the same for many of us I think. A lot has happened in our lives in this timespan and a lot has happened in the world, really. Also let's not forget that the amount and cadence of information circulating has grown and grows still, thanks to the web and social media. So all this is condensed in our memory.

    • @albertotrigosbueno5547
      @albertotrigosbueno5547 4 года назад

      Yeah, this decade felt so much shorter

    • @adayexpired6370
      @adayexpired6370 4 года назад +2

      You just gettin old. Happens. Time goes faster and faster and faster, then you gasp “wtf,” b4 you kick the bucket. 😑. It’s life. 😑

  • @XgamerdaveX
    @XgamerdaveX 4 года назад +45

    I love how Mark Cerny presents. His GDC road to PS5 talk earlier this year was captivating. I hung onto his every word. And I learned so much.

    • @christophluger793
      @christophluger793 3 года назад +8

      He's very good at presenting and obviously developing.

  • @Jambobist
    @Jambobist 4 года назад +96

    That Killzone sequence still looks way better than most of the games coming out today, Guerilla are wizards.

    • @EeekiE
      @EeekiE 4 года назад +11

      It’s why focussing solely on the hardware is naive. Good graphics comes from talented engineers and artists more than it does from minor differences in compute power.

    • @thefilmdirector1
      @thefilmdirector1 4 года назад +1

      @@EeekiE somewhat true, BOTW is one of the best looking games this gen, but even so, theres stuff in there you could drop into an N64 game and it would be right at home, the Switch can only do so much. Not to mention the resolution and jaggies everywhere. No different for PS4, take a PS4 only game and give it a top tier PC to run on and you can boost the artists skills to another level, its why people shouldnt be hyped for that UE5 demo "running on a ps5" (its not and even if it is that demo tops the system out leaving no space for actual gameplay, npcs, scripted events etc etc etc)

    • @H.E.M.
      @H.E.M. 4 года назад +3

      Idk what games you’re playing in 2020. Because it doesn’t. Also is 40fps and plays like an last gen game.

    • @VenomSnakeMGS
      @VenomSnakeMGS 4 года назад +2

      I mean it looks good, but new PS4 games look way better. RDR2, God of War, Last Of Us 2, Ghost of Tshumia, FF7R, all of those games look way better than Killzone lol.

    • @gulfamashraf
      @gulfamashraf 4 года назад

      @@VenomSnakeMGS I agress with venom snake

  • @Tragel102
    @Tragel102 4 года назад +123

    Do the Xbox reveal next! It would be hilarious

    • @pipgoesthepossum
      @pipgoesthepossum 4 года назад +27

      Hilariously painful, tbh

    • @Manas_Choudhary
      @Manas_Choudhary 4 года назад +39

      One thing the Xbox One launch provides is a good laugh, and I'm not saying that in a condescending manner. I genuinely enjoy watching the mess previous Xbox execs made and am grateful Phil Spencer revived a crucial gaming brand in the industry.

    • @Pokemonlyfan
      @Pokemonlyfan 4 года назад +10

      It was soo bad. „You want games? Here is a tv show“. No wonder Sony used the slogan „for the players“

    • @alinepiroutek8932
      @alinepiroutek8932 4 года назад

      @@Manas_Choudhary He was talking about Xbox, not Xbox One

    • @JoshMarshain
      @JoshMarshain 4 года назад

      I think it'd be pretty fruitful just to see what not to do going forward when it comes to selling/marketing hardware

  • @michaeljohn2826
    @michaeljohn2826 4 года назад +27

    This console still manages to blow me away graphically.. Just started playing Uncharted lost legacy and WOW!

  • @drmoreno98
    @drmoreno98 4 года назад +147

    Damn, DF putting out feature films

    • @Poever
      @Poever 4 года назад +4

      When there’s no Wonder Woman 1984 to watch, you call the Digital Foundry gang

  • @ghostbiggie
    @ghostbiggie 4 года назад +25

    i made it til the end - and thoroughly enjoyed it. even the times when richard got RUDELY cut off by someone turning up onstage when he was in the middle of a good anecdote

  • @norbertcsorba4639
    @norbertcsorba4639 4 года назад +80

    1:35 remembering San Andreas: its either the "food order" or the "wrong house" meme. Sony knows whats up

    • @guillermo9171
      @guillermo9171 4 года назад +5

      I always thought "follow that damn train" was above both of those.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 года назад

      You work fast, n***a

    • @w1nch3ster1
      @w1nch3ster1 4 года назад

      @@CaveyMoth Bustas. Straight bustas.

  • @Allyouknow5820
    @Allyouknow5820 4 года назад +24

    Yes John, I made it to the end /o/
    But now Rich : WE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR WATCH DOGS STORY :)))

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 года назад

      I love Watch Dogsssss..well, the first one, at least.

    • @DuudeWhatDoesMineSay
      @DuudeWhatDoesMineSay 4 года назад

      I wonder what it was running on if it wasn't pc. A liquid nitrogen cooled PS4 dev kit?

    • @ZiggyStardust85
      @ZiggyStardust85 4 года назад

      @@DuudeWhatDoesMineSay Perhaps a Mac?

    • @christopherwalkinalloverya5824
      @christopherwalkinalloverya5824 4 года назад

      @@ZiggyStardust85 A cluster of 8 GTX 680's with an OC'd Deep Blue acting as the CPU.

  • @UnwantedSelf
    @UnwantedSelf 4 года назад +40

    Can't wait for the Xbox one retrospective that one was so bad withe the DRM stuff

    • @hansgoranhogstrom1900
      @hansgoranhogstrom1900 4 года назад +10

      A bunch of things were really bad when Mattrick ran xbox, but at least it spawned a whole lot of hysterical memes.
      That retrospective episode should be hilarious.

    • @mrpiratefox4497
      @mrpiratefox4497 4 года назад +4

      Say thanks to Mattrick for that shit event. He really hurt Xbox forever

    • @Shaved_Ape
      @Shaved_Ape 4 года назад +4

      Spencer was part of the team that came up with those ideas. Mattrick was doing the presentations and interviews but Spencer agreed with the original vision for the brand. He's admitted that himself.
      So let's not pretend that Mattrick was acting alone with all the decisions that were originally made. He had a team of execs that all made the decision together. Here's Spencer admitting:
      "I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true.
      "I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward.
      "I wouldn't trust me if all of a sudden I tried to say 'well, I was asleep during those meetings'. It would be silly. I was there."

    • @Cakebattered
      @Cakebattered 4 года назад +1

      Xbox failed to openly discuss their DRM plans in the Xbox One reveal or their E3 presentation.

  • @Immaustine
    @Immaustine 4 года назад +29

    Made it all the way to the end. I love these, I had recently gone back to the PS3 and Xbox one reveals.

    • @Cakebattered
      @Cakebattered 4 года назад

      Xbox one reveal was actually 2 weeks prior to E3. The 2013 Xbox E3 presentation was spectacular, except the price reveal got tons of cricket chirps.

    • @Nicomanism
      @Nicomanism 4 года назад

      Xbox One 2013 reveal was one of the worst reveals . It literally triggered many gamers about next gen then .

  • @tipoomaster
    @tipoomaster 4 года назад +29

    It's heartening that that UE4 engine demo here at the PS4 launch actually looks pretty drab compared to games using it now. So that UE5 demo should be a glimpse of real potential that may even be surpassed by later games.

    • @JamanWerSonst
      @JamanWerSonst 2 года назад +5

      If we get games that look better than Matrix Awakening UE5 demo in a few years I'm gonna shit a brick.

    • @assegai7055
      @assegai7055 2 года назад

      @@JamanWerSonst what😂😂😂😂

  • @cooloobahn112
    @cooloobahn112 4 года назад +14

    I loved how driveclub had real time headlights. To this day I look on every game that has cars to see if they have it too. And I've never noticed it as good as it is in driveclub. It was awesome! Looked so good at night on cockpit view.

  • @TetraEzio
    @TetraEzio 4 года назад +11

    Which console will you be buying
    1 - PS5
    2- Xbox series X
    Like - PS5
    Comment below - Xbox series X

    • @Arcona
      @Arcona 4 года назад +1

      @Name Lastname No you don't. And who cares?

    • @NlneLives210
      @NlneLives210 4 года назад

      @Name Lastname how much did u pay?

  • @akiko2096
    @akiko2096 4 года назад +6

    Xbox had horrible exclusives. Still own a one X as well ps4 pro but I hope next year they have some better games from Microsoft first parties. Halo and Gears doesn't cut it.

    • @lionelchung3627
      @lionelchung3627 4 года назад

      Agree with you, I have been asking myself if I should get the XBSX at launch. Probably if Halo Infinite is phenomenal (but it'll probably just be slightly better than good). I'm actually more excited for the next obsidian game than Halo 🤷.

    • @akiko2096
      @akiko2096 4 года назад

      @@Diego-og7nk Great point

  • @jackakascko
    @jackakascko 4 года назад +44

    What ill remember this console generation by is great games, sony did an awsome job

    • @H.E.M.
      @H.E.M. 4 года назад +4

      Xbox user remember $500 for a vcr and spy camera, cancelled exclusives, Xbox exclusives becoming multiplats, batteries for controllers in 2013 (and again in 2020), under powered console and than being charge another $500 for a better console, losing cod exclusivity, ton of failed exclusives (dead rising, quantum break, sunset overdrive, sea of thieves, crackdown 3, halo 5, halo mcc, bleeding edge etc)
      Other than that Xbox had a great gen 😊

    • @farqleethussain9102
      @farqleethussain9102 4 года назад

      @@H.E.M. lol

    • @W0lf_91
      @W0lf_91 4 года назад +2

      Batteries for controllers is still actually a good idea. Just get rechargeable which last way longer

    • @TofumanFC3S
      @TofumanFC3S 4 года назад

      Andy Walford I don’t get what’s wrong with batteries either?
      I have many PS3 controllers, all have bad or horrible internal batteries from age. Who can keep all their internal batteries healthy of a controller collection from a older gen console that you rarely use? It’s ridiculous! Along with the cheap materials it’s why I hate the Dual Shock 3.
      I can pick up any controller from my Xbox 360 collection, pop in a set of batteries and it’s ready to go 🤷‍♂️ Love it!
      Plus my rechargeable battery in my Xbox One controller seems to last twice as long as in the Dual Shock 4...

  • @chrisbullock6477
    @chrisbullock6477 4 года назад +17

    Amazes me DF never talked about or reviewed that "Magician" Demo that was pretty mind blowing.

  • @SteamPunk96
    @SteamPunk96 4 года назад +15

    This was a great time, watched the whole thing rather than listening to it in a podcast-esque kinda way which is rare for me with such a long video, thanks for sitting down together and making this lads.

  • @montygill2835
    @montygill2835 4 года назад +26

    June 2020 and we still don't know what the PS5 looks like.

    • @TheBhappyboy1986
      @TheBhappyboy1986 4 года назад +9

      I mean it is probably gonna be a box.

    • @mainsmain
      @mainsmain 4 года назад

      @@TheBhappyboy1986 huh its just a box

    • @eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeo
      @eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeo 4 года назад

      I heard have info from the inside. It's gonna be a square/rectangle

    • @venomfuryx3250
      @venomfuryx3250 4 года назад

      I want to know how it feels like.

    • @tofuteh2348
      @tofuteh2348 4 года назад

      Unless it looks like a dildo or turd does it really matter?

  • @Lattrodon
    @Lattrodon 4 года назад +20

    I still play Driveclub. Rip servers :(

    • @rtx_____
      @rtx_____ 4 года назад

      Lattrodon same here, really sad

    • @N1ckZ
      @N1ckZ 4 года назад

      I never liked this game. I bought it played it for a bit and never touched it again. The thing that I disliked the most was that there weren’t any real tracks and it was very arcade-ish.

    • @Shaved_Ape
      @Shaved_Ape 4 года назад +9

      @@N1ckZ
      Well you bought it for the wrong reasons then, because being arcadey and having fictional tracks is precisely why it's such an outstanding game. The best racer on PS4 by a mile.
      If you wanted realism from your racers then there's a clogged market of games available. Every damn game is a sim wannabe these days, so DriveClub was a breath of fresh air in the genre. The arcade racer is almost extinct at this point. NFS is the only big arcade brand these days and when was the last time they pushed out a truly great game?

    • @W0lf_91
      @W0lf_91 4 года назад

      “The best PS4 racer by a mile”... in your opinion. I mean, it isn’t, no way, but whatever.

    • @Shaved_Ape
      @Shaved_Ape 4 года назад +3

      @@W0lf_91
      If I have to state "in my opinion" in a comments thread on RUclips about a video game then I can't help you. Common sense doesn't need to be stated when all views on entertainment are subjective.
      Also, I like how you disagree but provide no actual input or argument as to why. What value does that give to your "opinion" then?

  • @powerfrenzy
    @powerfrenzy Год назад +3

    I want to see a DF retro on the PS Vita if you guys haven't already done it.
    Vita feels like Dreamcast to me. A lot of great stuff, woefully unsupported and fast-tracked to failure in spite of its potential.

  • @TotalCereal1547
    @TotalCereal1547 4 года назад +2

    You don't really think of PS4 as being old until you realize that they touted the ability to stream to Ustream at the reveal.

  • @19HajimeSaitou91
    @19HajimeSaitou91 4 года назад +11

    Omg Witchard is on another level..
    When he talks - - I'm all ears

  • @ionseven
    @ionseven 4 года назад +8

    Sony 1st parties kept me into gaming this gen, the only ones still treating gaming as an art form anymore. The rest of AAA including MS gave up, pivoting towards microtransaction riddled, addiction scams injected in rinse repeat trash that makes billions - then getting frustrated with us for not being excited boy band like fangirls while we receive a far less, usually broken messes.

    • @Luca-bv5ic
      @Luca-bv5ic 4 года назад +1

      EXACTLY. Fanboys keep saying exclusives don't matter.....this gen would have been garbage without PS exclusives. Lets be honest, third party games have been subpar compared to previous generations. The mainstream AAA industry went in a really bad direction and MS straight up followed them into the shithole. People say sony 1st party games are overrated. I don't think they even get enough credit for going against the grain of the mainstream industry.

    • @sean70729
      @sean70729 4 года назад

      Nah you just prefer SP 3rd person games, I'm a MP guy and the genre is alive and well but I don't dump on SP games just because I don't play them much.

    • @sean70729
      @sean70729 4 года назад

      @@Luca-bv5ic Yet the most anticipated game is developed by 4A games those guys that made TW3 a subpar game by your logic😂.

  • @zonzore
    @zonzore 4 года назад +14

    Yeah Killzone still looks very amazing.

  • @BIGNOIDS
    @BIGNOIDS 4 года назад +9

    Mark Cerny is a gem within the gaming world.

  • @PSNationTorgo
    @PSNationTorgo 4 года назад +16

    The teleprompters were right in front of the stage, along with the screens for the folks playing the live demos. That's how I knew that Killzone would be shown, since I had to walk in front of those screens to get around a cameraman from some outlet that blocked the walkway up front with all of his equipment

    • @zummone
      @zummone 4 года назад +1

      Nice

    • @Ample17
      @Ample17 4 года назад +1

      Interesting!

    • @HugoStiglitz88
      @HugoStiglitz88 4 года назад

      Cool lol but you spoiled the best reveal for yourself

  • @gureguru4694
    @gureguru4694 4 года назад +7

    and it went out to sell over 110m units in 7 years. legendary stuff.

    • @wallacesousuke1433
      @wallacesousuke1433 4 года назад

      And? You talk like they share their profits with ya 😂

  • @occrash5616
    @occrash5616 4 года назад +6

    @John, do the right thing, revisit driveclub. Pay the homage it deserves!

    • @themightyant.
      @themightyant. 4 года назад

      Does it still play well without the online Club aspect?

    • @occrash5616
      @occrash5616 4 года назад +1

      @@themightyant. The online challenges are gone so you are left with a standard racing experience competing just against other on-track cars. The game itself is still amazing. I re-bought a ps4 + driveclub this Christmas after selling it in 2015. Its a crazy good looking game.

    • @themightyant.
      @themightyant. 4 года назад

      OC CrASH Thanks. This is good to hear. I have had it for ages but never got around to playing it. I ‘assumed’ more of the game was not functioning.

  • @JayzBeerz
    @JayzBeerz Год назад +2

    God of War on the PS4 Pro looks amazing.

  • @KingZoa
    @KingZoa 4 года назад +20

    50:39
    When that explosion happened for the first time. That was the literal moment I knew, I was buying a PS4 day one. And I did with killzone lol I still have em

    • @AlleyCrockett
      @AlleyCrockett 4 года назад +2

      Me too :)

    • @KingZoa
      @KingZoa 4 года назад

      Alley Crockett when I heard 399, I also knew that was the moment i was buying it

  • @migii820
    @migii820 4 года назад +2

    The reason they get backlash about PS games going to PC is fanboyism. Fanboys don’t like the idea of it not being a complete exclusive

  • @aintyourfriend777
    @aintyourfriend777 4 года назад +14

    Ps4 is one of the greatest console ever made. Not on par with snes or ps2, but definitely in my top 5 greatest console.

    • @Mr.Honest247
      @Mr.Honest247 4 года назад

      PS1 holds that crown. It was the start of these games that were all made iconic ON THE PS1! Some are exceptions here but these include: The Resident Evil series, Castlevania SOTN, Metal Gear Solid, Tony Hawks Pro Skater series, Tenchu 1 and 2, Driver, Final Fantasy, Crash Bandicoot 1 and 2, Spyro, Syphon Filter, Nightmare Creatures, Clock Tower, Silent Hill, Twisted Metal, Dino Crisis, the Tomb Raider series, with some of those still being remembered to this day! Some of those are STILL going strong to this day! Many of the best franchises started on PS1. It was the time of great gaming ideas!

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH 4 года назад

      @jvalex18 I guess people rate based on personal experience as well. So even if something was great they wouldn't put it high because of having limited experience with it.

  • @TheKeithvidz
    @TheKeithvidz 4 года назад +2

    P4 had a killer run, few mistakes in 7 years.

  • @DarkTibbles
    @DarkTibbles 4 года назад +10

    I really wish Digital foundry would go in depth into shareplay. One of my favorite and most underated features. Not only letting you view another players PS4 stream with them having to share it publicly, but yes they can pass the controller to you to help them out. It also lets you try out a game your friend has. Plus it gives couch coop capability to someone who doesn't even own the game! Sure it isn't as pretty but latency isn't bad and a 720p stream or 1080p on pro is pretty sweet for what it's trying to accomplish

    • @Poever
      @Poever 4 года назад +1

      Did people actually USE Shareplay? The communication on that wasn’t expressed very well

    • @tears2040
      @tears2040 4 года назад

      DarkTibbles Share play has horrible lag, playing sports games is basically unusable. 720p and horrible latency, tried many times playing Madden and it’s a disaster. A nice feature to possibly watch someone else’s game but needs to severely be improved

    • @albertotrigosbueno5547
      @albertotrigosbueno5547 4 года назад +1

      @Omega Red you are a real hero, defeating bloodborne bosses with network latency, the ultimate difficulty

    • @josuem7398
      @josuem7398 4 года назад +3

      @@tears2040 You probably have shit internet or your using WiFi because I've used Share Play many times and it worked great some latency but perfectly playable on Fifa, A way out, and uncharted.

    • @tears2040
      @tears2040 4 года назад

      Josue M Just because you can’t tell your head from your ass doesn’t make your opinion valid...... Share play not only is crippled by 720p, it’s also hindered by latency and even lower frame rates. By the way I have the fastest internet available residentially in United States at Fiber over 1000Mb up/down

  • @LanceD188
    @LanceD188 4 года назад +6

    Jim Ryan looks like he would be a hard-a$$ to work under, He's go that Gordon Ramsay vibe.

  • @thewirv
    @thewirv 4 года назад +23

    it's so funny because I actually rewatched this as well a couple of days ago

    • @Zeegoku1007
      @Zeegoku1007 4 года назад +2

      Ha ha ha....ha 😑

    • @lurpi5631
      @lurpi5631 4 года назад +1

      Is there a lesbian as your profile pic?.

    • @liamflan9553
      @liamflan9553 3 года назад

      Yes very funny. Marcel you should be comedian

  • @GordonGordon
    @GordonGordon 4 года назад +3

    18:00
    The irony... Devs told Microsoft that 512MB of RAM was what was needed and that's what they delivered for Xbox360 instead of PS3. Then Microsoft pooped on all their easy development goodwill with their weirdo slow ram and ESRAM nonsense for Xbone. I was all for the 360 during that generation, but having Mark Cerny as game designer-turned system architect was pretty genius.

  • @Ample17
    @Ample17 4 года назад +16

    You can tell Alex isn't too much into the console side of gaming 😂

  • @tipoomaster
    @tipoomaster 4 года назад +1

    Sure the game's beauty was only skin deep, but I hope they eventually reboot Killzone, combining a next gen leap from Shadowfall's already impressive graphics with an actually good game.

  • @leonthesleepy
    @leonthesleepy 4 года назад +20

    I fully expect a ton of sassy Richard Commentary on this

    • @p5rsona
      @p5rsona 4 года назад

      I had no idea he was this sassy!

  • @up7500
    @up7500 4 года назад +8

    I love these episodes. Just the boys hanging out. You guys would make a great podcast!

  • @belijeonodugo2222
    @belijeonodugo2222 4 года назад +8

    56:30 Tears in my eyes when they complimented Driveclub

  • @FabTheZen
    @FabTheZen 4 года назад +15

    I can say with pride that I just finished watching the whole thing! It was a really pleasant, podcast-like experience. Thank you Richard, John and Alex for this interesting retrospective!

  • @Zenzuu
    @Zenzuu 4 года назад +7

    Alex really neeeds to stop with that mockery sarcastic laugh when talking about consoles.

    • @H.E.M.
      @H.E.M. 4 года назад

      You know he put death stranding, a PS4 game, as the best looking game of 2019. He’s not a pc fanboy if that’s what you’re implying.

    • @Zenzuu
      @Zenzuu 3 года назад

      @@H.E.M. he is though. He self admitted that in a lot of recent videos.

  • @annoyingasshole3324
    @annoyingasshole3324 4 года назад +149

    I still laugh about the share games advert 😂 playstation took a steamy dump on xbox with that.

    • @saxoman1
      @saxoman1 4 года назад +18

      That was one of the most brutal response ads I've ever seen, even more brutal than negative political ads. AND it was low budget, win-win!

  • @MyRetroJourney
    @MyRetroJourney 4 года назад +11

    The PS4 is without a doubt one of the best consoles ever. Such an epic game library!

    • @Nicomanism
      @Nicomanism 4 года назад +3

      I still preferred PS2 and PS3's library combined. There were buttload of amazing IPs over what PS4 offered from AAA West.

    • @wallacesousuke1433
      @wallacesousuke1433 4 года назад +1

      @@Nicomanism PS3 was the worst of them all

    • @youhavenoprivacyandownnoth8289
      @youhavenoprivacyandownnoth8289 4 года назад +1

      born 2005?

    • @Nicomanism
      @Nicomanism 4 года назад

      @@wallacesousuke1433 if we talking about Sony's infamous 2006 E3 reveal along the risks they took in early lifecycle of PS3, I guess

    • @wallacesousuke1433
      @wallacesousuke1433 4 года назад

      @@Nicomanism I'm referring to its lineup of exclusive games, so few great games, not to mention a shitton of remasters and ports from older consoles, and many cross platforms ran like shit on it compared to Xbox (Bayonetta, The Evil Within etc)

  • @mazin9193
    @mazin9193 4 года назад +3

    Agni's Philosophy also ran on an ultra highend PC with a GTX680. Nothing quite beat that demo on consoles to this day.

  • @edgeofanduril717
    @edgeofanduril717 2 года назад +4

    love this long form content. Really appreciate hearing your insights and perspectives into the past eras of console gaming. Definitely please consider making more long form content as I could sit for hours and stream your discussions while grinding different video games in the background. Many thanks

  • @scalliano
    @scalliano 4 года назад +16

    "It's OK, guys, we didn't let Ken anywhere near this one."

    • @Poever
      @Poever 4 года назад

      PS4 wasn’t his dream the way PS3 was; he wanted the PS3 to be the “everything in one” console

    • @Taijifufu
      @Taijifufu 4 года назад

      Poever but that's already called a PC.

    • @mbsfaridi
      @mbsfaridi 4 года назад

      Poever Sadly that’s why it was so underpowered off the shelf pc parts.

  • @leoniciolopezgomez7731
    @leoniciolopezgomez7731 4 года назад +14

    If the PS5 reveal even hints about GOW 2, I'm losing my shit.

    • @venomfuryx3250
      @venomfuryx3250 4 года назад +4

      Bloodborne 2 for me.

    • @REDDEADANDGTACLUB
      @REDDEADANDGTACLUB 4 года назад +1

      This is something to actually expect. I would lose my shit if they announce a new Jak game or a new Sly game.

    • @autisticwhale2968
      @autisticwhale2968 4 года назад +1

      They gotta go BIG for the next god of war. We access to all realms and more gods fight including thor.

    • @willinton06
      @willinton06 4 года назад +1

      REDDEADANDGTACLUB calm down man, my body is not resdy

    • @robertdunlop5247
      @robertdunlop5247 4 года назад +1

      Expect to lose your shit.

  • @nickdude07
    @nickdude07 2 года назад +1

    @10:40 the worst second screen experience was Star Fox Zero. And I can't get why it was never patched. But being forced to watch the GamePad the WHOLE time you would rather watch your HDTV... frustrating.

  • @live_kaito_reaction
    @live_kaito_reaction 4 года назад +3

    I liked how mgsv implemented its second screen. In game using the idroid doesn't pause time so you have to be aware of your surroundings whenever you use it and be quick. Having the idroid app on your phone be used to control it worked really well since instead of blocking the screen with the idroid menu and going through clunky navigation, you can just look down at your phone and tap quickly. It was intuitive and a lot more immersive

  • @Hazelrat10
    @Hazelrat10 2 года назад +1

    Unfortunately I didn’t get an xbone or a PS4 this Gen, feel like I missed out. I recently picked up a series X and hope to get a PS5 when the availability gets better

  • @toodlebug500
    @toodlebug500 4 года назад +4

    I made it to the end! I love these retrospectives of E3 presentations, I've had them on while working for the last few days. I think I've ran out now though, I'd love to see more!

  • @sdewey4152
    @sdewey4152 4 года назад +1

    I do recall one of you saying around the PS4s launch that we wouldn't see optimisation/improvements over time like we saw with previous generations.

  • @sens4lyfe671
    @sens4lyfe671 4 года назад +5

    ps4 won this gen. cant wait for ps5!!!

  • @davidrawlins2862
    @davidrawlins2862 4 года назад +1

    PS4 was visually better than than the previous generation, but the quality of games took a nosedive. I really hope that they concentrate on the quality of their game titles and offline multiplayer in the PS5.

  • @l3igwill1994
    @l3igwill1994 4 года назад +16

    Can’t wait to see the ps5 I have a habit of getting all the console before the end of the generation.. and I’m an avid pc gamer

    • @spht9ng
      @spht9ng 4 года назад

      same. soon as the holidays come, i'm getting a Series X and the RDNA2 mid-range card.

    • @pudzianwrc
      @pudzianwrc 4 года назад

      Now is the best time to buy PS4. I bought used Ps4 pro it was cheaper than GPU in my pc. So many great games to play for cheap.

    • @JJS-GamingandTech
      @JJS-GamingandTech 4 года назад +5

      @@spht9ng Out of curiosity. Why would you buy a Series X when you have a PC? Majority of Xbox games are on PC.

    • @NichtNameee
      @NichtNameee 4 года назад +1

      You should buy a fedora

    • @spht9ng
      @spht9ng 4 года назад +2

      @@JJS-GamingandTech Cuz the Series X has a RTX 2080 level gpu in it. which will cost like $700 for PC.

  • @TerryMartinART
    @TerryMartinART 4 года назад +1

    You know how there are child prodigies who play instruments... Alex is like one of those prodigies with his knowledge of tech. Not to say the others at DF are not great too in their own areas of expertise, but as I said before Alex adds a lot to this video analysis. Its like when you get a new gpu and want to play old games again to see the improvements, adding Alex makes me want to see all these videos with his input if that makes sense.

  • @ThyHeraclez
    @ThyHeraclez 4 года назад +21

    We need a date for the ps5 event soon, gamers need it!

    • @Bossix84
      @Bossix84 4 года назад +10

      We need this to happen in next 7 days or I'm going to riot on the streets of my village!

    • @zonzore
      @zonzore 4 года назад +2

      I bet they will announce the event within 48 hours of the event date.

    • @Luca-bv5ic
      @Luca-bv5ic 4 года назад

      @@zonzore no..surely more like a week before

    • @EDorb
      @EDorb 4 года назад +2

      A lot of the other events that were due to happen in the next few weeks have now been shifted a week or two back - based on that it's probably safe to assume the PS5 reveal will be within the next 14 days or so. Optimistically, it'll be this coming Thursday, with a date announce tomorrow.

    • @nickhowatson4745
      @nickhowatson4745 4 года назад

      forget the PS5. get a PC.

  • @TheGabrielfaro
    @TheGabrielfaro 3 года назад +2

    Time goes by so fast.... I remember watching this live. The killzone gameplay was amazing... The ps4 was the first console i got right at launch. I still remember the feeling of buying my fisical copy of Infamous second son

  • @tloz171nfs
    @tloz171nfs 4 года назад +7

    There's so much variety in this presentation. I really hope the PS5 reveal isn't all realistic narrative-driven 3rd person open world action games...and then like, Gran Turismo.

  • @chardaw5941
    @chardaw5941 4 года назад +14

    The fact that this channel hasn't hit 1 million subs is beyond me.

    • @UmVtCg
      @UmVtCg 3 года назад +1

      It has actually

  • @ItsAkile
    @ItsAkile 4 года назад +10

    PS5 memory speed upgrade incoming lol. my mate and I watched this live, good times. I'm not sure he got the excitement when we got the 8gb GDDR5 confirmed haha

  • @eunaecharles8856
    @eunaecharles8856 4 года назад +2

    The fact that Killzone Shadow Fall actually looked better at release, kinda makes up for the "downgrade" in Watchdogs. Let's hope we see another Killzone game tomorrow, and within less than 48 minutes into the event.

    • @Charles-hy6gp
      @Charles-hy6gp 4 года назад

      Watchdogs is a freaking multiplataform, not a exclusive
      and clearly PC gamers are so stupid and selfish

  • @sminem777
    @sminem777 4 года назад +19

    the editor got me with that chad warden clip lmao
    P S TRIPLE

  • @Luca-bv5ic
    @Luca-bv5ic 4 года назад +2

    Am I the only one who thinks that without all the great PS4 exclusives, this gen would have been very subpar when it comes to games? Sony killed it this gen with the exclusives.

    • @TheScure
      @TheScure 4 года назад +3

      PC had a lot of games, much more than ever

    • @Luca-bv5ic
      @Luca-bv5ic 4 года назад +2

      @@TheScure I'm talking about generation defining games. There simply have not been as many great games from third party or PC exclusive compared to previous "generations"(IK PC has no gens, but you know what I mean). A huge amount of the standout games have been PS4 and sometimes nintendo exclusives, whereas in previous generations, third party games appeared to make up the majority of the great games. This generation, most third party stuff has been lazy cash grabs, tired old sequels and micro transaction filled multiplayer. I think Sony has done a great job of simply putting out finished, quality single player experiences.
      And no shit PC has more games than ever, it's not like they remove games do they LMAO.

  • @Artourne
    @Artourne 4 года назад +3

    Cool idea to revisit this conf ! What a ride for the ps4. Two things i wanted to react to : - I never see people speak about the marketing aspect of the led light on dualshock 4. For me the idea was to let people directly know someone is playing ps4. At the time of youtube and twitch, it’s a perfect free ad. Otherwise they would have allow to turn it off. - other thing is Square continues to develop luminous engine. There is currently a new IP developed with it by people who worked on FFXV. Not FFXVI but waiting to see what it will look like on next gen ! Promising engine.

  • @BattleJoe97
    @BattleJoe97 4 года назад +4

    Would be nice to have a look at the E3 presentation of the Wii U’s reveal.

  • @phased-arraych.9150
    @phased-arraych.9150 4 года назад +10

    One of the most memorable reveals ever. I was 16 years old when I first saw this on the livestream.

    • @twosnakse
      @twosnakse 4 года назад +2

      But how many other reveals did you actually remember if you were only 16? 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @DarkReturns1
      @DarkReturns1 4 года назад

      I'm old

    • @nadirjofas3140
      @nadirjofas3140 4 года назад

      @@twosnakse 5-10 i guess

    • @VenomSnakeMGS
      @VenomSnakeMGS 4 года назад

      lol I was 13 and im 20 now

    • @pigi7738
      @pigi7738 4 года назад +2

      lucky you... I was 30 😑

  • @GoffredoMarocchi
    @GoffredoMarocchi 4 года назад +1

    Not only that anyone who has done any presentation will tell you Richard’s comment about what presentations should be like and what people want is the real nonsense: great presentations are “stories” first and foremost...

  • @agamazofficial
    @agamazofficial 4 года назад +16

    DF Retro of F-ZERO GX please!

    • @XDLugia
      @XDLugia 4 года назад +6

      That game still blows my mind on so many levels. I actually managed to beat the last story mission last summer. It only took me like 13 years.

    • @lipe6649
      @lipe6649 4 года назад +1

      I still play on my backward compatible wii.
      This game need a sequel.

    • @agamazofficial
      @agamazofficial 4 года назад

      @@lipe6649 at least a GX port to Switch. It is even widescreen all it needs is HD

  • @ryans413
    @ryans413 4 года назад +1

    I miss E3 that year was awesome for Sony they totally destroyed Microsoft and put on a good show

  • @TrueLink00
    @TrueLink00 4 года назад +4

    One game that I thought did the “second screen experience” right was Assassin’s Creed 4. You didn’t use the second screen while you played the main game. Instead you sent your crew on jobs throughout the day and reaped the rewards or losses in the main game. It made the second screen a side way to continue while you were at work.

  • @mackinblack
    @mackinblack 2 года назад +1

    I didnt get a Ps4 till 2018 (cause i bet on Xbox and lost) just upraded to a ps4 pro. And while i wait for ps5 to become more readily available I'll just say this, "For a nearly ten year old piece of tech, it still looks amazing and performs like a champ!"

  • @Fendera1
    @Fendera1 4 года назад +8

    We are lucky to have you John, Thanks!

  • @-GameHacKeR-
    @-GameHacKeR- 4 года назад +8

    10:50 Now boys! that's enough dissing on the WiiU XD The WiiU was a great console. And was the death of the free to play online on consoles. Which is how it always should be!

  • @zac-f2l
    @zac-f2l 4 года назад +6

    How the hell does the first PS4 gameplay shown (Killzone: Shadow Fall) look better than the first XBOX SERIES X gameplay shown?? (Bright Memory)

    • @teehundeart
      @teehundeart 4 года назад +2

      Bright memory looks better from a pure graphical standpoint though.
      Art direction is subjective of course.

    • @andypanz
      @andypanz 4 года назад +1

      >why game that made one man looks worse than game that have multi million budget

  • @NeoTechni
    @NeoTechni 3 года назад +1

    re: Second screen stuff
    I'd kill for a port of Silent Scope that used the Wii U gamepad (or Vita, or PSP, or even GBA) as the scope on a lightgun
    PSP had the perfect gun for it too, the AIM sharpshooter had a rail on the top someone could have made a PSP mount for it.

  • @jjforcebreaker
    @jjforcebreaker 4 года назад +5

    These recaps are one of my fav things. Thanks, DF team!