ASUSTOR is teaching us what a NAS should be today, unlike Synology, which decided to remove internal HEIC support to avoid slowness, instead of installing better hardware.
I have to agree. I've historically been a QNAP user (flame suit on), and they have done okay, but this version of ADM looks much cleaner to me than QTS. If they had a real virtual machine manager based on KVM/Qemu, I'd seriously consider switching down the road. Regardless it's great to see them improving. Competition is always good, especially when Synology seems to be moving their focus away from prosumer/homelaber and targeting either basic home use, or enterprise.
@@kf4hqf2 QNAP gets the job done well. HERO ZFS and really good hardware provide the best experience for a turnkey nas. Nothing quite fits the bill for business and prosumer as well...
Synology should have already been worried. I've been using Synology NAS since 2011, and was very pleased with their hardware/software offerings. But current hardware is lacking to the point their that their software is no longer enough to keep me loyal to the Synology brand.
They still haven't fixed the scrubbing and raid sync been 2 tasks (manual, can't be scheduled) it's can be dangerous for your data because before running a raid sync you must always run a btrfs scrub first to make sure the filesystem is good (if raid sync is ran first and there is corruption in the filesystem it will sync that corruption to the parity making btrfs scrub unable to do a repair attempt) On Synology a data scrub automatically runs a btrfs scrub first then once finished it runs a raid sync and it can be ran as a schedule
I am new to the nas space. Does this mean that if I have a 2 bay nas at home with raid1 it won't sync the data between the 2 disks automatically? Sounds like a basica thing to ask imo. I was considering between a basica synology and asustor one to pick up this winter, but this might be an issue if confirmed.
Always happy to see updates to the software across any of the NAS providers. Everytime time I see Asustor it makes me want to switch from Synology as my primary NAS. Also, that taskbar gives me anxiety everytime I see it 😂
Apple no longer supports AFP and it’s been deprecated for at least a few years so I don’t know why it’s even included anymore. Apple supports SMB and should be used now.
Synology isn't worried because they decided a few years to stop focus/no longer give a shit...about private users..it's now all corporate and maximum profits for minimum efforts...in short, if you are still considering synology...you're dumb.
ADM also lacks the ability to backup for example Photo Gallery 3 data so if your system fails, you lose all your albums. The photos itself can be backed up but not the settings/app data. Astounding that a company which sells backup solutions for a living is not making sure its own apps are backed up.
Is there an app for backing up a hole computer? You install some kind of agent on your station and it backs up computer to a nas. Then you restore it even on a diffrent hardware. Synology has it and it works great, it's called Active Backup For Business.
Never owned a Synology, so I have no Synology user experience to compare with, but based on this ADM5 review and their modern hardware specs , I would def choose Asustor in a heartbeat over Synology! Four NVMe M.2s, dual 10Gbe NICs, etc. The only thing I wish they had is an Intel CPU for media transcoding. Great video, thank you!
Synology SHOULD be worried because they are screwing up with their loyal customers ..... Synology ARE NOT worried because Asustor scored a massive own goal with their delusional screwed up pricing so they will not penetrate much if any of Synology's market share..... also a worrying LACK of support with issues with Asustor products and failing drive arrays has been noticed with quite a few threads on Reddit about it .... ADM 5 looks extremely promising ..... but as Newt said it won't make any difference....
I don't get it - if i want to restore a single file from a snapshot, can i do that? - there's no way to browse the snapshot? - there's no way to change time between snapshots for an individual folder?
ADM has folder encryption, but you cannot use it for photo folders and still use ASUSTOR’ photo app. You cannot use encryption on user home folders either. So basically it does not work for home privacy protection in case of theft.
And ADM is not capable of encrypting your USB backup. ADM instead relies on the MyArchive function which is not a feature on Flashstor series unless you buy an expansion unit.
Asustor Gen 3 Vs Ugreen 6800 (about 500$ cheaper in black friday) which one should I get as my fist NAS for my video business? being able to connect directly with USB sounds fun, and also I think the Asustor is still more reliable for business. what do you think? :)
I got my UGreen 6800 Pro during kickstarter for $599, so it was a no brainer for the cpu & hardware specs at that time, even with the limited operating software. But today at full price of $1200, only $300 less than Lockerstor Gen 3 six bay NAS, from what I can see here in this ADM video, I would probably buy the Lockerstor. Having 4 NVMe slots (vs UGgreen's 2) alone will give you quite a bit of read/write speed for video processing. Biggest drawback (for me) is the AMD/non-Intel processor for video transcoding. That being said, even though I now own the UGreen six and 4 bay units now, I will probably pickup an Asustor model of some kind just for the software experience and to learn more about what I want UGOS to look like in the future. One last consideration is the UGreen four bay (DXP4800 Plus), which several similar features as the six bay, but for only $700 full retail. That's a $800 savings over the Lockerstor Gen 3 six bay. Hope this was helpful.
@@RedMarsupial From what I understand, without a cpu that has integrated graphics such as Intel or ADM, the nas will not be do transcoding on the unit and will require 100% of the transcoding by plex, which I understand is less desirable. The more the nas can transcode, the higher the consistency of the playback. So far I have only worked with Intel CPUs so I have not had any transcoding issues. Maybe others have this unit share their experience.
I have an AS6806T and the LED for drive six is always on after boot-up. It’s not blinking like the others. All six drives are used in a single volume with RAID 6. any ideas? ADM-bug?
Funny you should say that. I did spot the Flashstor 6 for $419 with a coupon. It's about a 3rd of a page down on the NC deals page - nascompares.com/deals/black-friday-2024-data-storage-deals-from-synology-qnap-wd-seagate-unifi-terramaster-and-more/
It certainly performs wonders and shits cucumbers but nothing compelling to switch from Synology. Yet. Your comments regarding the breakout of functions into separate apps makes for a very busy looking desktop. And, without SHR, I would be looking to buy a 6 bay and start with 3 drives in RAID 5 to leave me expansion flexibility.
The Synology Hybrid RAID still seems like the biggest selling point to me! I just don't understand why other NAS brands haven't done something similar. If I've got a 4-bay NAS, I shouldn't have to replace all 4 drives just to get more storage. When I rebuild my NAS, I'll have to go with Xpenology again or UnRAID.
The interesting thing is that the XS series do not have that function today (it was possible before). The SHR works for very, very home environments, I have 2 drives of a certain capacity, then I have enough for larger ones, then I remove one of the first ones and put in another large one from another brand. In the end, I don't know if you know how the SHR works internally, but tons of raids are generated added together, the drives are subdivided and the problem comes when SHR breaks, rescuing it is complicated in those scenarios. Precisely for this reason, they removed it from the XS series and larger and you don't see it in other brands, it is true that it existed in DROBO and today it is dead.
@@GerardoGTapia Very good point. Additionally, while I don't have first hand experience with SHR, most "Hybrid RAID" solutions perform like crap when compared to traditional RAID, or RAIDZx. Sure I can see many home users not caring about throughput because they're probably still running 1Gb networks. But if you need (or want) your storage to keep up with multi-gig network speeds, Hybrid RAID solutions typically aren't going to cut it. That's assuming we're talking about HDD. If you're volume is composed of SSD's then everything I said goes out the window.
With the pricetag of 1230 eur?? nooo way, I would love to have that, but this price is a BIG BIG NO!! adding drives to it it would be 2000 eur. I am not that mental
I soo badly want to dump my Synology for a Asustore. Even more so now with ADM5. But as I said before, they really need a AMD Ryzen Embedded 8000 Series (like 8845HS) with a good GPU and media codecs (AV1 encode/decode plz) that can be the heart of a great Plex/Jellyfin setup. Great products.though
@nascompares just light hearted fun mate😊. You have to admit, they have removed focus from prosumer and Dell is a competitor in the market they are going after.. I will be more charitable moving forward.
Light hearted fun aside, seriously, the more I think about it, the better the video is. I'm gonna explore this a little and see if there's a good enough structure for a video. Cheers for the input mate, inadvertent or intentional!
@nascompares No need to credit me. Just go with it... Big data guys would like a video on it... Regardless have fun! If you ever get a 453e or 464 with 8 gig and do a zfs conversion, you would save this lazy guy the work.
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ASUSTOR is teaching us what a NAS should be today, unlike Synology, which decided to remove internal HEIC support to avoid slowness, instead of installing better hardware.
I have to agree. I've historically been a QNAP user (flame suit on), and they have done okay, but this version of ADM looks much cleaner to me than QTS. If they had a real virtual machine manager based on KVM/Qemu, I'd seriously consider switching down the road. Regardless it's great to see them improving. Competition is always good, especially when Synology seems to be moving their focus away from prosumer/homelaber and targeting either basic home use, or enterprise.
@@kf4hqf2 QNAP gets the job done well. HERO ZFS and really good hardware provide the best experience for a turnkey nas. Nothing quite fits the bill for business and prosumer as well...
Seems like the execs running Synology have decided to take a skin the sheep approach to their customers rather than shearing the sheep.
Synology should have already been worried. I've been using Synology NAS since 2011, and was very pleased with their hardware/software offerings. But current hardware is lacking to the point their that their software is no longer enough to keep me loyal to the Synology brand.
You nailed the "context" perfectly Dude!
They still haven't fixed the scrubbing and raid sync been 2 tasks (manual, can't be scheduled) it's can be dangerous for your data because before running a raid sync you must always run a btrfs scrub first to make sure the filesystem is good (if raid sync is ran first and there is corruption in the filesystem it will sync that corruption to the parity making btrfs scrub unable to do a repair attempt)
On Synology a data scrub automatically runs a btrfs scrub first then once finished it runs a raid sync and it can be ran as a schedule
I am new to the nas space. Does this mean that if I have a 2 bay nas at home with raid1 it won't sync the data between the 2 disks automatically? Sounds like a basica thing to ask imo. I was considering between a basica synology and asustor one to pick up this winter, but this might be an issue if confirmed.
Another missing feature is automatic reconnect of WireGuard VPN. It works for OpenVPN in ADM, but not WG.
Always happy to see updates to the software across any of the NAS providers. Everytime time I see Asustor it makes me want to switch from Synology as my primary NAS. Also, that taskbar gives me anxiety everytime I see it 😂
Well... you can hide it if you want ;)
@@ASUSTOR_YT I was referring to Robbie’s taskbar :)
@briankfree Ah geez it went over my head.
Apple no longer supports AFP and it’s been deprecated for at least a few years so I don’t know why it’s even included anymore. Apple supports SMB and should be used now.
Synology isn't worried because they decided a few years to stop focus/no longer give a shit...about private users..it's now all corporate and maximum profits for minimum efforts...in short, if you are still considering synology...you're dumb.
ADM also lacks the ability to backup for example Photo Gallery 3 data so if your system fails, you lose all your albums. The photos itself can be backed up but not the settings/app data. Astounding that a company which sells backup solutions for a living is not making sure its own apps are backed up.
Is there an app for backing up a hole computer? You install some kind of agent on your station and it backs up computer to a nas. Then you restore it even on a diffrent hardware. Synology has it and it works great, it's called Active Backup For Business.
ASUSTOR do, it’s called Backup Plan and is a desktop app.
@@LillyBeach123 Are you sure this program allows you to backup all computer and not just chosen files and folders?
@@LillyBeach123 I've checked and Backup Plan does not allow to backup entire computer. It only backs up individual folders.
Considering this file "explorer" - i would consider this over Synology, which i currently have.
Never owned a Synology, so I have no Synology user experience to compare with, but based on this ADM5 review and their modern hardware specs , I would def choose Asustor in a heartbeat over Synology! Four NVMe M.2s, dual 10Gbe NICs, etc. The only thing I wish they had is an Intel CPU for media transcoding. Great video, thank you!
Does ADM have a task scheduler ui yet?
Synology SHOULD be worried because they are screwing up with their loyal customers ..... Synology ARE NOT worried because Asustor scored a massive own goal with their delusional screwed up pricing so they will not penetrate much if any of Synology's market share..... also a worrying LACK of support with issues with Asustor products and failing drive arrays has been noticed with quite a few threads on Reddit about it .... ADM 5 looks extremely promising ..... but as Newt said it won't make any difference....
It mostly carries out raid scrubbing at night....mostly.....
Please don't enable youtube's auto dubbing feature, it's absolutely awful.
I don't get it
- if i want to restore a single file from a snapshot, can i do that?
- there's no way to browse the snapshot?
- there's no way to change time between snapshots for an individual folder?
Hello, did you tried to play anything in 4K ? Is it possible to add external GPU ?
Does not apply for my older AS3102T NAS we are stuck on ADM 4.3.........
ADM has folder encryption, but you cannot use it for photo folders and still use ASUSTOR’ photo app. You cannot use encryption on user home folders either. So basically it does not work for home privacy protection in case of theft.
And ADM is not capable of encrypting your USB backup. ADM instead relies on the MyArchive function which is not a feature on Flashstor series unless you buy an expansion unit.
I have a Lockerstor 2 Gen 2 I'll have to look but I'm on a 4.** version of ADM, I assume it will go to ADM 5 soon.
Nothing about VM's despite it being in the description?? I would suggest this is a major feature for anyone looking at spending this much on this
Is it worth waiting till they improve?
Do you think it is worth installing Unraid or Truenas Scale instead?
Asustor Gen 3 Vs Ugreen 6800 (about 500$ cheaper in black friday)
which one should I get as my fist NAS for my video business?
being able to connect directly with USB sounds fun, and also I think the Asustor is still more reliable for business.
what do you think? :)
I got my UGreen 6800 Pro during kickstarter for $599, so it was a no brainer for the cpu & hardware specs at that time, even with the limited operating software. But today at full price of $1200, only $300 less than Lockerstor Gen 3 six bay NAS, from what I can see here in this ADM video, I would probably buy the Lockerstor. Having 4 NVMe slots (vs UGgreen's 2) alone will give you quite a bit of read/write speed for video processing. Biggest drawback (for me) is the AMD/non-Intel processor for video transcoding. That being said, even though I now own the UGreen six and 4 bay units now, I will probably pickup an Asustor model of some kind just for the software experience and to learn more about what I want UGOS to look like in the future.
One last consideration is the UGreen four bay (DXP4800 Plus), which several similar features as the six bay, but for only $700 full retail. That's a $800 savings over the Lockerstor Gen 3 six bay. Hope this was helpful.
@musicman0024 with the CPU that it has, does that mean no videos will be transcodeded using plex? People can only stream the original file?
@@RedMarsupial From what I understand, without a cpu that has integrated graphics such as Intel or ADM, the nas will not be do transcoding on the unit and will require 100% of the transcoding by plex, which I understand is less desirable. The more the nas can transcode, the higher the consistency of the playback. So far I have only worked with Intel CPUs so I have not had any transcoding issues. Maybe others have this unit share their experience.
will it support lockerstor Gen 2 AS6704T ?
I have an AS6806T and the LED for drive six is always on after boot-up. It’s not blinking like the others. All six drives are used in a single volume with RAID 6. any ideas? ADM-bug?
Does asustor ADM 5 let you create a virtual ADM, similar to how synology lets to you make a virtualDSM?
I do not think so, no. Sorry
Thank you for the video. Will ADM run a full synchronization for RAID1 after every reboot?
Get us a Black friday deal for Gen 3 six bays, im in!
Funny you should say that. I did spot the Flashstor 6 for $419 with a coupon. It's about a 3rd of a page down on the NC deals page - nascompares.com/deals/black-friday-2024-data-storage-deals-from-synology-qnap-wd-seagate-unifi-terramaster-and-more/
It certainly performs wonders and shits cucumbers but nothing compelling to switch from Synology. Yet. Your comments regarding the breakout of functions into separate apps makes for a very busy looking desktop. And, without SHR, I would be looking to buy a 6 bay and start with 3 drives in RAID 5 to leave me expansion flexibility.
Make alive, that first sentence made me spill my pint and no mistake...
good morning Robbie.
Good afternoon (don't know your real name...ummm...let's say) Ted!
@@nascompares No, it's Arizona Iced Tea
The Synology Hybrid RAID still seems like the biggest selling point to me! I just don't understand why other NAS brands haven't done something similar. If I've got a 4-bay NAS, I shouldn't have to replace all 4 drives just to get more storage.
When I rebuild my NAS, I'll have to go with Xpenology again or UnRAID.
The interesting thing is that the XS series do not have that function today (it was possible before). The SHR works for very, very home environments, I have 2 drives of a certain capacity, then I have enough for larger ones, then I remove one of the first ones and put in another large one from another brand. In the end, I don't know if you know how the SHR works internally, but tons of raids are generated added together, the drives are subdivided and the problem comes when SHR breaks, rescuing it is complicated in those scenarios. Precisely for this reason, they removed it from the XS series and larger and you don't see it in other brands, it is true that it existed in DROBO and today it is dead.
@@GerardoGTapia I did not know that. Thank you.
I remember other company have something similar , on terramaster they call traid+ or something
@@GerardoGTapia Very good point. Additionally, while I don't have first hand experience with SHR, most "Hybrid RAID" solutions perform like crap when compared to traditional RAID, or RAIDZx. Sure I can see many home users not caring about throughput because they're probably still running 1Gb networks. But if you need (or want) your storage to keep up with multi-gig network speeds, Hybrid RAID solutions typically aren't going to cut it. That's assuming we're talking about HDD. If you're volume is composed of SSD's then everything I said goes out the window.
Terramaster has a Hybrid RAID, too.
I wish ixsystems made cheaper boxes so everyone could go truenas.
With the pricetag of 1230 eur?? nooo way, I would love to have that, but this price is a BIG BIG NO!! adding drives to it it would be 2000 eur. I am not that mental
I soo badly want to dump my Synology for a Asustore. Even more so now with ADM5. But as I said before, they really need a AMD Ryzen Embedded 8000 Series (like 8845HS) with a good GPU and media codecs (AV1 encode/decode plz) that can be the heart of a great Plex/Jellyfin setup.
Great products.though
Good French translation
Synology moved on, so the question is pointless really. Should Dell be afraid of Synology? That is the question...
Ok...so...frankly...that's a GREAT point. Any objection to me making a video on this? Crediting yourself for the topic suggestion of course.
@nascompares just light hearted fun mate😊. You have to admit, they have removed focus from prosumer and Dell is a competitor in the market they are going after.. I will be more charitable moving forward.
Light hearted fun aside, seriously, the more I think about it, the better the video is. I'm gonna explore this a little and see if there's a good enough structure for a video. Cheers for the input mate, inadvertent or intentional!
@nascompares No need to credit me. Just go with it... Big data guys would like a video on it... Regardless have fun! If you ever get a 453e or 464 with 8 gig and do a zfs conversion, you would save this lazy guy the work.